U.S. Edition
By Larry Shaughnessy
Fort Hood massacre suspect Army Maj. Nidal Hasan argues that he sought to protect Taliban leaders during a shooting rampage at the sprawling Texas military base that killed 13 people.
Representing himself against murder charges, Hasan explained his "defense of others" strategy at a pre-trial hearing on Tuesday without offering details, according to a statement from the military base.
That prompted the military judge overseeing the long-delayed court-martial to give him a day to present any facts to underpin his case, the statement said.
Judge Col. Tara Osborn will at that time consider Hasan's request for a three-month delay to further prepare his arguments.
A devout Muslim who opposed the war in Afghanistan, Hasan is charged with opening fire on military personnel at Fort Hood in November 2009. Thirteen people were killed and more than 30 others were hurt.
Hasan fired his private attorney in 2011 and recently said he did not want military attorneys to represent him. Osborn ruled Monday that he could represent himself but that military lawyers would help him.
Jury selection was set to begin Wednesday, but Osborn has put that off until Monday.
Somebody said to me the other day "Lets just kill the man and move on with this!" I think it's important to show patience, and respect even thou they don'y show it to us. It is what makes us different from them.Justice will be served.
Is Obama still going with work place violence?
I think it is time for James Foley to become Active Duty at FT. HOOD sent over to IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN no choice here. Let all the guys/gals that are already there read his posts see how well his butt his covered and if he makes it back. Maybe before he goes some Terrorist will come in and mes him up and he wont get paid and some one will talk crap about him!!!!!! Everyone at one time or another had been made fun of if you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen dont burn it down with people inside you idiot! THIS terrorist is A psychiatrist he knew what he was doing to everybody there and enjoyed every minute of it, just like him being his own lawyer so he can terrorize them some more. So he can also rub it in that he has been paid daily with benefits he also has NO trauma from that day of any kind! You are a Terrorist sympathizer and need to go live over there since it is SO much better unless of course your going to enlist!
back to the military court . how much longer can obama delay this ?
The President has no say in this. Rulings were made by the judge. Get a grip or something – please.
I thought this was just workplace violence. What does that have to do with the Taliban?
It is the alleged perpetrator's defense. He brought it up himself.
what's this? no more pithy remarks from the peanut gallery?
And now it's time to reward him, FEED HIM PORK.
Judging by the vast majority of these posts here, one plainly sees how the right-wing lynch mob mentality has taken over this country big time! No wonder they call ours a sick society. All this stems from pure ignorance and nothing more!
Really?
Your post is one of most intelligent ones here yet on this web page. Thank you, Quigley.
No, the right-wingers have not taken over the country. The weird bloggers you refer to are out of work, uneducated creeps who Wish they were rich right-wingers. Rich right-wingers have no time to write dumb comments on CNN articles. They are too busy making the bad news that these wannabes are whining about!
How much longer are they going to keep POS Hasan around?
I really resent the constant use of the word DEVOUT in describing these religious murderers. Devout simply means devoted and not radical or extreme, but that is how the word is used in the media. I am a devoted Christian, but not a radical or extreme Christian, therefore I am devout. All of that journalism education wasted.
Major Hasan was a devout follower of the Koran and slew infidels as commanded by jihad. He infiltrated the Army easily, because the medical branch was afraid of an equal opportunity complaint. "The Prophet said, 'A single endeavor of fighting in Allah's Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.'" Bukhari:V4B52N50
Follower of a pedophile, illiterate, homicidal maniac, whose followers have murdered 270 million Human Beings in their 1400 year reign of terror.islam is an evolutionary dead end.
I'm with you on this misuse of wording. Another one is when the media refers to criminals as "gentlemen"! Just say " the person" or "the man" or " the male" or "the creep."
To be a DEVOUT a Christian is to be extreme! Armageddon? Walk on water? Raise the dead? TRANSUBSTANTIATE? Believe in a devil? Please!
False liberals , jihadist couck souckers belong with them into the gutter, not in concentration camps. shoouve a minaret up your reectum ken.enjoy!
Please George, do cut that Tea Party lingo out. The English language is extensive enough to express one's opinion in without that kind of profanity. Besides, it has no place here.
We should have rounded up all the non-Christians in the country into concentration camps back in 2001.
I'm sure many of the right-wing morons here will agree with that statement.
That they would Ken. We already have far too many right-wing nut jobs in this country due to the massive ignorance among the people. All ignorance does is to breed hate to the advantage of the right-wing fanatics. This is why the Tea Party is so successful in gaining membership.
Would you stop posting comments under different names. The little pic next to the name never changes. We know your a liberal retard.
The height of arrogance to speak for those you despise.
In any normal civilised society, obama and his pathetic minions, along with this pathetic propaganda, ultra-bisasded reporting(pro-islam, pro.taliban, pro-muslim brotherhood, pro-ret+rds) would be out of business...but hey..blame robert Spencer, pamella geller, the EDL and any one who dares to call a spade a spade.We are rolling down the gutter of our own oblivion thanks to idiotic false «liberals» and this anti-factual media, that rushes to give voice to every insasne argumente jihadists come up with, the include blatant dishonesty and deliberate manipulation, twisting of facts and sheer lying.
Thanks George. It's always entertaining to hear from another drooling, knuckle dragging, neanderthal right wing nut case.
Thanks for saving me the embarrassment of having to argue with that idiot! And you are welcome in advance for the chuckle I just gave you.
Entertainig is to see a false liberal like you offering your behind to jihadist gang-rapists
You go George,don't let some simplistic idiot liberal push all us right wing nuts around . I would bet my life most of these fools have never served this country in any way. GO NAVY
"Entertainig (your spelling) is" trying to read a post by an illiterate who would not have the courage to go a hundred yards from his car or from the nearest ATM. I, a liberal, will meet you in a wilderness, ten miles from the nearest dirt road, and we'll see how tough you are. Also, bring no food or water. This meeting will be about real men surviving in real nature, not whining right-wingers playing tough guys in cyber space.
How did you manage to write so much without managing to say anything that can actually be substantiaed?
He is in the U.S. military. No beards allowed. Shave him at once.
have him faced a firing squad using pig blood laced bullet
Another rant from another mindless Tea Partier! Like I said at the beginning of this post, we're going to see a lot of this stupidity before it's done. Did any of these ignoramuses ever put themselves in his place and see things from his side? Of course not!!!
Well said, George. Thank you. I too am tired of all these ignoramuses who have no notion of how things truly are!
You are asking us to put ourselves in this murder's shoes? What an odd request. I don't really want to contemplate shooting those I work with. What would I learn from that?
bite me liberal biiioootch!Go suck nidal hassan's small stick and scream for obama's help f@gg@t!
George, you dishonor a true American and you are not good enough to wipe his a$$. nuff said !
'One minute your honor, me, him alone....'
What this man did was wrong and he should be brought to justice for his heinous crime but so should GWB and his republican war criminals. While a majority of Americans approved of the U.S. going after Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, a majority of Americans equally oppose the Afghan war. There's a big difference. Going after a terror cell is a foreign country to dismantle it is one thing, but overthrowing a sovereign government to do so is wrong. If a terror cell in America was to attack another world power, I doubt that country would try to overthrow the United States government to dismantle that terror cell. The right thing to do is to communicate and cooperate with the country where the terror cell is being operated so that that cell could be dismantled without making the situation worse. Another sensible option would be to try to dismantle that terror cell through a covert mission that does not jeopardise the sovereign country. Sadly, what we have on our hands is an Afghanistan that's a lot more destabilized that it was when we attacked and invaded a decade ago.
Thank you, Bla Bla Bla........... You just about said it all.
RIGHT ,BLAH BLAH BLAH ECT ECT ECT
So glad you're so smug in your foreign policy, but the taliban were and are a bunch of raving religious fanatics who butchered anyone they desired and cloaked themselves in their insane meme to justify it.If you have an issue with the US, vote differently, emigrate, or join the jihad.Geopolitics is a nasty business ,and you seem content to sit on your behind while others fight to secure the resources you need to lead your self indulgent life.
Well, as much as I disliked Bush, the overthrow of the Taliban regime was one of the few things he did that I approved of. Now, how badly he...okay, he was asleep through most of it... let me rephrase: How badly his antiquated advisers ran the wart, is something else.
If a person commits an act to cause terror in others, it's terrorism. If an act of terror is done with the aid and encouragement of others, it's a conspiracy.
So ??????
Why is this terrorist still alive. he should have been executed months ago. The legal system in this country is a big fat JOKE!!!!
I'll never understand why the MP's who responded...shot to wound? This should have been over that very day.
This trial shows what a joke the US legal system is. He's used every delay tactic there is – and he still gets paid after killing fellow military personnel. Unbelievable protections for a terrorist and murderer.
Okay, he just admitted to being a terrorist, pack his stuff up and send him to GETMO. The first paragraph says he did it to save the lives of the Teliban leaders. TERRORIST ATTACK!!!
We have fools running and making the rules in our military system. The terrorist should not get a dime, should have been executed months ago, with a public execution and if anything those killed by him, their families should have been compensated by everything this nut owned.
It's the military legal system, not the US legal system. Also, he hasn't been convicted of anything, yet. The Army is obligated to keep paying him until he is convicted. Bradley Manning is still getting paid, too.
These 3 1/2 years spent is not to help him. But to help rest of us and prevent any more attacks like this one. If at least one is prevented after learning the facts.. it's worth it.
Really, Learning the facts,I don't agree .
it is good PR to drag him through the legal system of the US. No martyr status! Jihadists will be scared of NOT dying in "battle", if one can call killing unarmed fellow workers, battle.!
This islamic putrid bag of excrement is going on a one way ticket to Hell. Murder in the name of the pagan arab god allah is what islamists do and think that it will get them into heaven. islamic sense of morality and right and wrong is so messed up. Its like they love death and slavery and killing all for their vile god. A true religion based on vileness and evil.
Hmm, I'm not a believer of Islam but what you described certainly sounds like the Catholic church at one point in history. The crusades, carrying religion to others through the use of a sword((sounds pretty vile, right?)
Thank God (sarcasm intended) the world is becoming more secular with each passing day. Religion, the scourge of mankind.
The religious excuse for the Crusades was to recue Christians lands from the Muslims. And based on sheer body-count, I think the Muslims did a better job of spreading religion on the poiint of a sword (I don't count the North and South American peoples that died in virgin-field epidemics).
Do not confuse him with facts! But you might have also mentioned the director of the USAF Academy who was telling his cadets that the war against Islam was a Christian duty...and by "Christian" he meant only HIS denomination! According to this man (and who made him director?) Catholics were "going to hell", with the OTHER 39,000 denominations of Christians in the USA. And of course Jews and atheists in the academy he was sure his "Lord and savior" was going to roast in Hell. My late, USAF colonel father (and adviser to the Pentagon on Arctic matters) would have kicked the shiite out of that idiot for embarrassing the Air Force! And then there were those clowns who were supplying, at great profit, ammunition inscribed with biblical verses to US soldiers. Who write these scripts?
You betcha!
My question, without sarcasm or innuendo, is simply "can one be what the article describes as a "devout Muslim" and a mass murderer at the same time? Doesn't the faith have a problem with murder?
I understand what you are saying. But that is true with all religions, in one form or the other every religion is violent/abusive to other religions. All religions...no exceptions.. The timelines are different... that is the only difference.
( I am not an atheist nor I believe in any religion...believe in god)
not where infidels are concered
Not when the people you are killing are non-Muslims.
The inclusion of certain immigrants from certain nations weaken our nation/military in the long run. The Roman empire suffered the same way by relying on foreign conscripts who frankly didn't have the same passion/patriotism as native borns. We can't take care of all our citizens presently. Close the borders until we can.
Ted, ask your dad how much patriotic/unpatriotic he was when he came to this country... if not ur dad, ask ur grand dad..
AS USUAL! Some really stupid comments here! I still get upset when I see this "traitiors" picture! WHY,, not shave him, head and all? O, that's right it is "its" religion. Pay continues? OK, if that cannot be stopped then make sure that it is "confiscated" when found GUILTY! This "thing" has NO rights! NONE!! Is there any doubt as to this "things" guilt? NO! And to let "it" question those that he shot is disgusting! Bet you "it" will start spouting the Qur'an and all that garbage? IF anything have those shot brought into court and point to the person who shot them. Then the judge finds "it" guilty, and YES, lets use hanging or firing squad! Actually I would find those things that would horrify "it" and do that! NO burial on U.S. soil!!
Until he is convicted, this "thing" has all the rights that you do, and no-one (not even you) should be deprived of them without due process.
FEED HIM TO THE HOGS.
Our immigration policies need some serious review on what ethnic and/or religious groups are likely to cause us the most problems. Countries where pressure cooker bombs are common ways used to solve their tribal differences are among places that should be off the list. We seem to be welcoming too many people who hate us and want to do us harm. We seem to be letting in more than a few bad apples.
Well said. Anyone remember common sense? Self preservation?
Gee...back in the 1600s and 1700s lots of immigrants came over to what became the US, and apparently they hated the then-citizens of this land, namely the Native Americans who's homes they burned, who's land they confiscated, who's children they killed, who's women they raped, who's descendants they forced into poverty. Now Eleanor you talk like you own the place.
Joshua YOU ARE UNFORTUNATELY JUST ANOTHER LIBERAL LIBERAL FOOL WHO HAS NOT AWAKENED-----YET
Nidal Hassan was born in Arlington, VA.
Oh dear sweet deluded eleanor, that number pales in comparison to the numbers you create with your hasty generalizations :)
he did it for the taliban, which makes what he did an act of terrorism. Therefore, his "rights" as a citizen, even though he was a member of our Armed Forces, should not apply. He gave up those rights when he chose terrorism. Take him to the town square, hang his @$$, and leave it there 3 days for other "home grown" fruitcases to see... and ponder on.
He is doing just fine.In prison, in a chair and a prisoner in his own mind. Health is failing. Let him soil his pants and sit in it.
The idiot is in a wheel chair that's a good prison.
Agree totally!
God raped a man's 14 year old wife!!! MARY!!! HAHAHAHA HE IS A KIND AND JUST GOD!
Is it true muslims like yourself wear bedsheets so the camels don't hear you sneaking up on them...
Yet if you make fun or criticize A certain religion they go off the deep end. I find the post offensive but you have to consider its source.
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your genitals. They can play with the ticks you acquired from your dog redneck.
Theres a flip side to that coin.
Billybob–when did your trailer get electricity?
This trial is a waste of money. It should be over in 12 hrs.
Regardless of his feelings about the war in Afghanistan, there are appropriate ways to protest. He had no business being in the US military, being employed, receiving a paycheck, and benefits if he was opposed to the US military. Secondly, the other military personnel that he killed and injured had nothing to do with anything. In America you have the right to disagree and protest. He has a right to be upset about Muslims being killed in the world. He has a right to be upset about US foreign policy. He does NOT have a right to kill people innocent people, some of whom would have died to protect him and his rights to be in the USA.
It is a shame that he was not shot at the scene. This POS needs to be executed. BTW if he announced it was for the taliban does that still make it "work place violence/"
He WAS shot at the scene. That's why he is in a wheelchair.
Execution won't satisfy the craving for revenge nor will it deter this behavior from reoccurring in the future.
This hero needs mental exam. He should not be allowed to smoke Ganja.
This is another easy one, Did anyone see him do it? YES, did they have to prove it? NO, Lots of witness's
He admitted it!==6 men with rifles, blindfold, ready aim etc etc, case closed! Like I said easy one!
so this man, commited murder against his own troops and pledged his oath to our country . Now has the right to receive 270,000 $. Which he will send back to other people that hate our country.
a rope and a tree is cheaper.
It starts, for this old soldier, with thinning out the difference between acknowledgement and respect. As a soldier, I may have acknowledged the rank system, but respect for that system and the individuals within it had to be earned.
So, I may have to acknowledge your religion, but by blood of my ancestors, I do not have to, and will not, respect it until you earn it.
So, islam? I don't capitalise any OMISS (Old Man in the Sky Syndrome), or indeed, christianity, or buddhism, whatever. I will, as a matter of civilised human conduct, acknowledge that your religion is important to you, but it means bugger all to me.
Now, some people of some religions, mainly the ignorant poor, uneducated, fixed in the bronze age, hang their hats on their religion, and I might do more than acknowledge and even respect some of them. But to ask me to respect an OMISS that buggers boys and rapes girls in marriage? Neva!
So, I don’t give a damn for your OMISS from Mecca, and if you want me to do more as a nation, then you do not need a secular democracy to live in, you need to get out of here and find yourself a theocracy. Be comfortable somewhere in Arabia. Never in a secular democracy. This form of government is an evolved system of legislation and jurisprudence stemming from Runnymede in 1215 and most importantly, disempowering one master for all, then a king. Our system of government is based the opinions of many being reflected in a representative assembly and not a gaggle of OMISS aficionados mouthing vitriol to an ignorant audience.
Get out of the civilised world.
Execute him.
Well said, very, very well said.
Ta muchly...
he was suffering from PTSD! :O
Wow, very well said. And this is coming from a Muslim.
Much appreciated, I may be prejudiced, but it is against all religions. I do hope I'm not a racist, one of my degrees is in Indigenous Studies, and another in Religious Studies. I've pondered this for some time, and I refuse to be Chamberlainesque...
No you need to do more as a nation just based on that, it has nothing to do with Mecca or any other Honah lee or Land of the Living Lies.
Remember the old saying that goes something like...A DEFENDANT WHO REPRESENTS HIMSELF HAS A FOOL FOR A CLIENT. I am so glad that it is true.
Firstly the Taliban suhcks Donkey bawlzuh. Secondly believing in an antiquated doctrine hook line and sinker is silly.
Hang that Murdering traitor...please
I don't know about your modern religions and beliefs and such, but I do know that back in my day, he would be dinner for killing able-bodied tribespeople.
You don't murder the people you trust and that trust you. It doesn't work out too well to do that. Just saying...
This is Caveman Lawyer; call BR459 for a consult today!
What do you expect from "peaceful muslims"? Its par for the course.
try him, convict him, and kill him. Let him find out there are no virgins waiting for him in hell.
He needs to be put in front of a " Firing Squad " immediately and stop wasting taxpayers dollars !!!!
so he is delaying because he believes from who ever he is talking to that is a devout muslim that sharia law will be allowed in north america soon and he will be tried under sharia law and "in defence of others" he will be pardoned
"Defense of others" is a recognized legal defense in the US. It may also be acceptable under sharia law, but that is not the point here.
I believe in our justice system but this trial is a farce. When the defendant is stating publicly that he did it, there is no reason for one. The judge should immediately deliver a directed verdict of guilty. Yeah, yeah I know it doesn't work that way. Exactly.
what are you feelings regarding George Zimmerman?
So this was or wasn't a terrorist attack?
Was this reclassified? Sunni murdering people in the name of religion..... Boston bombers, 911, ect..,,
Our wonderful government classified it as workplace violence
Which it appeared to be until the perpetrator advised of his defense claim.
Typical Islamist.
funny you should say "islamist."
That term isn't even accepted by Muslims as a name for any level of Muslim, at least in the normal, peaceful people.
It doesn't NEED to be.
It was workplace violence, not terrorism, per the Obama administration. This is the way that the Taliban would have handled conflict in the community/worklace...
He is still active, he is Major terrorist.
He should get same punishment as the other guy who killed 16 innocentscivilians in Afghanistan, they both should get same punishment i don't see any difference in these cases
The guy in Afghanistan killed civilians. The guy in this article killed people who assumed the risk of death when they signed their papers at the MEPS. Also, MPs should've capped the fücker on site, like military personnel usually do. If anyone deserves worse, it's probably the demented guy in the Afghanistan incident. Those kids didn't sign up to be shot at. Those 16 people had no defense against a night-time assault from an American operative.
No one signs up to be offed by someone who is assumed to be on the same side, you daft imbecile.
He wasn't Amercan. He is an Islamic import, frothing at the mouth. Seriously, how do we screen these clowns that want to "peacefully" enter our country. They are all ditching their dirt bag countries and bringing their poison to the West/
Actually jez, he was an american :)
i12bphil, but they do sign up with knowledge they could die from friendly fire ;)
That's fair.
It appears that I have some imbeciles commenting on my comments...
Okay. Fine. Continue to be a total dipsh¡t. Not my loss.
I just find it sad that I can't post vulgarity a bit more easily on this page. Since when are Americans such whiney b¡tches?
You don't have imbeciles replying to your comments. You ARE the imbecile!
Yet another Obama Bin Failing moment. It was terrorism straight up, but Obama wanted to screw over the families benefits, so he called it work place violence. Can't wait for Bin to go to prison.
What you are claiming is nonsense. No president of the USA has any say in legal cases like this. Nor can he block financial aid to the victims'families. It is not in his job description. Your comments aid the terrorists: divide and conquer.
You speak truth
He may well and truly believe that what he did was justified. OK, let that be his defense. He has admittedly committed an act of aggression against his own troops in order to aid and defend those with whom this country is at war. Let him use this defense, and let him use it to the fullest extent possible, so that no one can claim that he did not have a fair trial, did not have the fullest opportunity to defend himself.
By his own defense he will be admitting to attempting to aid the enemy, It will be interesting to see what precedents he cites that acting in defense of the enemy qualifies as 'coming to the defense of others who are in imminent danger' and in need of third-party defense. Was he defending legitimate Prisoners of War against unwarranted atrocities by their captors, who otherwise would be acting in violation of Geneva Conventions rules regarding treatment of prisoners? (As in, shooting a fellow soldier who was about to murder a prisoner.) That may qualify in some cases, but in this case it doesn't apply. No one he is claiming to be defending was in imminent danger from anyone he 'allegedly' harmed or killed, and no Geneva rights to their safety and security as prisoners were about the be violated.
There is only one outcome that is justifiable. Fry this guy.
Aside from your conclusion, I totally agree, and it's refreshing to see someone in these comments using logic. The only reason I disagree with your proposed punishment is because in his religion that is actually an honor and a blessing. Put him in a hole, feed him rations and water, and have a prepared reminder of his failures everyday to achieve martyrdom. :)
I like the way you think.
Uniform code of military justice spells out what is to happen here,he is to be given the death penalty.He was in the military and took the oath as such and falls under the UCMJ kill this fool already or shall we spend a zillion dollars prosecuting him to show our enemies just how foolish we can be,wonder what kind of trial the taliban would give one of their own who turned a gun on their troops to support the US effort
He did it for the Taliban?
Send him to Gitmo and be done with him.
Sometimes it seems redundant to have a trial.
I say they take a 100 pound weight , tie it around his ankles, take him out to sea and drop him overboard.
No matter what happen I think in the USA they do have much more power in rules and laws regulation. they are no racism or religion involve, if the judge found it guilty than the suspect will deserve the way it be but it take time to close the case. my conclusion if found guilty than execute right of way same way he or she have done.
How can that be Obama swore it was not a terrorist attack. LOL. Obama is such a liar.
Cry baby
Wade, I think you're the terrorist.
so what's your point?
Are you suggesting that somehow the President was able to read the mind of the perpetrator and know his motives? From what I can tell, until the "defense of others" theory was proposed, there was no mention of "defending the Taliban." However, if you do believe that the President is omnipotent, you had better quit saying mean things about him – he'll read your mind and know what you think.
Why cant they say an ex soldier killed other soldiers?? It happens every year!! How come we dont mention other religions when killinhs happen.
Because other soldiers aren't killing in the name of their religion (Islam) or in the name of Islamic fascists (the Taliban). I don't know if you've noticed, but Islamic terrorists are killing people on a regular basis all over the world. And when it happens within the ranks of the U.S. military, it's newsworthy. You can't take Obama's approach and pretend it has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism by calling it simply a case of "workplace violence". We need to be intelligent big boys and girls and identify and face evil when we see it.
Other soldiers aren't killing in the name of their religion?! Now that's a bald faced lie. Just because they don't go screaming it in battle doesn't mean that isn't their motivation stud.
he's actually still currently a soldier, not an ex
Not only is he still in the military, he is still collecting his pay to the tune of over a quarter of a million. In addition, because it was deemed to be "work place violence" instead of a "terrorist attack" benefits for his victims have been limited. Since he basically confessed today we should change the designation of the attack and proceed immediately to the penalty phase!
Actually, he's claiming defense of others; soooooooo, not so much the terrorist thing as the vigilante thing. How very Tea Party of him.
Perhaps if he hadn't been heard shouting Allah Ackbar he wouldn't be considered a terrorist by most of America.
You know that reminds me of the time a noble christian bombed an abortion clinic while screaming in the name of Jesus ;).
You're not immune.
Damn. People post some of the worst grammar I've ever seen and, just because it's patriotic, nobody points out the blunt stupidity...
What about some of the worst stupidity...being a dumb grammar Nazi on the internet? Really? You'll never be happy/content. Focus on the issues and/or get a life.
Just saying, broski. No need to get all immature and say I have no life.
I take it you're the type of person who would give a kid an A on a spelling-intensive assignment as long as the child was enthusiastic about their simple little sentences...
I'm not your "Broski" and I take it you're the type of tool that crushes the hopes and dreams of those that let you...when they don't live up to your lame standards. Congrats and good luck with that "bro".
Troterr: ....as long as the child was enthusiastic about HIS/HER simple little sentences...
Genius.
Xactly.... ;)
Dude not only are you Bros you're bed bros. Ladies, ladies, you're both pretty ;)
Some times its just a typo. Get over it!
I was speaking of a sentence which I actually could not understand. It was less run-on sentence than it was "random words thrown together".
I got it. Your right!
Don't let this stop the Obama administration from classifying this as "workplace violence," however. Nope, nothing to see here.
I saw this man as a patient at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. I hope they let the spouses of those he murdered line up and blow him away in a firing line. Of course, no shots above the hips at first. Make sure he feels the pain before he dies.
And then one shot and inch above his nose!
Too bad he didn't kill a dozen CNN reporters and editors.
You said – "Too bad he didn't kill a dozen CNN reporters and editors."
How do you live with so much hate in your heart?
He should have said that those that insisted this wasn't an act of terrorism by Islanimals should be shot.
Firing squad for this guy!
He only thinks he did it for the Taliban, until his next brainwashing session, that is.
Inexcusable …………….
An open admission of aiding the enemy we are at war with by killing US soldiers. This person just openly admitted to being an enemy combatant fighting for the Taliban. I think this trial is effectively over at this point with the statement of his guilt. It is time to throw him into a cell for life with no parole.
Hey, do you have a copy of our declaration of war vs the Taliban? I can't find where I put my copy
Curse those darn inconveniences ;)
Sounds like it should be a very short trial.
Hey Obama he even said "I did it for the Taliban" NOW can we try him as a terrorist?
Doubt it. He and the DEMS and the LEFT still call this " workplace violence." Better sounding narrative then a "terrorist attack."
Actually, it's the military saying that. The highly conservative military, mind you. You aren't exactly the sharpest Tea Partier around, are you? Or maybe you are...your abysmal grasp of the facts would put you in their top echelon, no question.
You take a decision by a an ultra conservative group like the military and blame it on libs? Wow, go back to Mars...you ain't gotta clue dude...learn to read
What kind of numbskull comment is that? This is the uniform code of military justice...obama didn't write that...you need to get an education
This is not the call of the president. it is a legal issue, and he has to saty out of it...by law!
This man has commited TREASON, and that is what he should be tried for.
Agreed...
And murder.
This guy is still collecting pay and not considered a terrorist. This government should be ashamed.
Yell at the military. They're the ones making the decision. They're going by the book, in fact. I'm going to assume you're one of those, um, traitors who think the law should be ignored when convenient?
Just kill th e turd.
Sounds like an act of terror on behalf of the enemy.
Sounds like an act of faith on behalf of his religion and in defense of his religious People. Now where have I heard that extoled before? *coughs* George Bush *coughs*
You are one dumb motherfcuker you know that? Your mom smoke too much weed while she was pregnant?
James Foley sounds like he is jealous he's not a virgin waiting for Nidal Hasan after he expires. Down right delusional!
Wow James, it looks like you have offended some devout Christians, judging from their comments.
...wow, George Bush did it...how original...where have we heard that before.
Oh, and here's an emoticon for you. 8)
Here's another one...8===D
Stars and Garters I've offended some devout christians?! Shocker. Facts are facts. I merely presented the facts.
This dude is a straight up terrorist and Obama needs to acknowledge it. Obama should personally give medals like he promised to the police officers who shot this guy and the military should give him the death penalty IMMEDIATELY
This particular event is not under the President's jurisdiction. If you have issues with the way this is proceeding, contact the military, not the President.
He killed 13 troops and injured many! The ones he injured who could not return to duty were discharged honorably but no benefits like insurance to cover their injuries once out of the military and no pay and without special pay like those who are injured in Iraq because the called it work place violence! BULL! To Top it off this terrorist has be paid is full active duty pay with benefits. He also gets to question these troops who by the way were being sent over there not for combat missions. HE deserves the to ROT in prison being passed while looking for his soap!! My husband is active duty going on 19 years, my cousin is going on 16 years been to Iraq, Afghanistan and truly before prison let the active duty troops spends some time beating him! Maybe he can pray then for some help...because I know God says to turn the other cheek but NOT screw our active duty men who are injured/disabled out of benefits for their families and themselves and to not pay them their regular pay and disability....and to pay the person who they know is responsible the whole time his officer pay because he hasn't been tried but he is on video! Please God Make him have to pay back every cent he has been paid since this happened and give it to the families he injured!!
At least one of those injured, my nephew, later took his own life because he fell through the cracks and did not get the help from the Army or the VA that he was PROMISED by President Obama and the Army. This was a terrorist act and all those in the room who suffered wounds, injuries and PTSD plus all survivors of those who were killed deserve respect, closure and an apology from the U.S. government, the Army and the VA for leaving so many killed and injured at Ft. Hood on the battlefield.
I'm so sorry about your nephew. I sat on the phone with my friends 12yr old daughter the day of the shootings because her parents weren't home and they were on lock down. She still has sever trauma from that day as do so many. We need to take care of our own but please accept mine and my families condolences as your nephew was a hero to us.
Instead of bashing the VA maybe you should have taken your nephew there yourself. Sorry about your nephew, but I don't believe one bit of your story regarding the VA not providing aid to an honorably discharge soldier. All of his care related to injuries he received would have been free...all of it. This President has significantly increased funding to the VA. Look it up. Unlike another President who completely left out the VA in their supplemental budget. Again...sorry for your loss, but I'm not going to allow you to bash the VA here.
I am so sorry about your nephew. Our President has let the military down especially them who were attacked on US soil by this terrorist. We Military know his pay should have stopped right then and there. The injured and killed should have been taken care of with benefits and pay. AGAIN I AM SORRY FOR YOUR FAMILIES LOSS!
AMABP, I am deeply sorry for the loss of your nephew, you are right the VA and the Govt. did fail in this matter, as to you MR. FACTS MATTER you obviously don't know your A$$ from a hole in the ground and you obviously dont pay attention to what is going on with the deep back log. get your facts straight before you start jumping on some one else's case.
I"m pretty sure your nephew didn't receive any kind of promise from the President. The military, on the other hand, probably did drop the ball.
What you fail to understand is that BO and his cohort don't give a rat's nose about the troops. They want to present the idea that there is no more war on terror, and those who fall through the cracks are just out of luck. From their point of view the suffering of a few dozen soldiers is not nearly as important as the impression they want to give the public. As long as the prez and his crowd can look good, to the devil with anyone else.
You sir, are engaging in a well known, but not often mentioned delusional tactic called projection. Google it. You're living it :)
and you're a liar
Why do you, and so many others, hold the President personally responsible for any part of this event? The President does not have the authority to do many of the things you hold him accountable for not doing. All of the decisions made in this case were made by the military. If you wish to perpetrate your delusional opinions, please at least define them as opinions.
You are absolutely right. I couldn't have said it better myself. I will add this, though: this terrorist SOB needs to be taken out and burned at the stake. That would be justice served.
Each Soldier will get VA support for all service-related injuries – for life. Fox News may be telling you differently but as usual, they are dead wrong. They will not get pay associated with combat because in spite of the violent nature of the attack, it was not a combat scenario. They were attacked by a member of our Armed Forces – on U.S. soil. The Congress defines and authorizes payments for combat injuries – not the President.
Great feeling of justice my man! Each and every one that were bombed in Iraq.. their families should get equal justice. You know we went to war in Iraq for OIL for Bush and his Cronies. First week of bombing alone wiped out over hundred thousand Iraqi men women and children. It was called "Shock and Awe" by CNN. and other American press. Lets take your justice and apply it to you.. You 'll be paying for a long long time.
Bush and Cheney committed war crimes. They should be held responsible but not the American People. Bush started a war based on a lie.
Say what you want but at least Bush new that the USA needed to keep the Military well stocked and well manned to keep your freedom safe. How would I know My husband has been ACTIVE duty for 19 years. Have to say this president is decimating our military. So if you ever fill unsafe one day call him, because by then he will have wiped out all the different branches!
DCooper, are you aware the humor in your claim? Bush knew how to keep a military well stocked and well manned? :) He had to delve into the reserves... scratch that, no he didn't... he DECIDED to delve into military reserves because he couldn't find enough willing participants once the people found out there were no WMD's in Iraq. We were all of us gung ho about going after Bin Laden but he wasn't in Iraq, and as >insert expletive here< as Hussein was he didn't order and was not involved in the attacks on 9/11. Bush's policies, doctrine, and procedures are the cause of the military's tough time of finding soldiers to fill its ranks. And partly Clintons as well. The fact remains that we had no trouble finding volunteers to go after Bin Laden and we had no trouble finding volunteers for WWII because in both of those instances we were justified in our response. Once people learned Bush was full of it, they no longer had faith in him as Commander in Chief, and no confidence in the military under his leadership. What's going on now with the miliitary is happening DURING Obama's presidency, NOT because of it.
There IS no HUMOR in my POST! After Serving the Country for 19 years in a Military Family My HUSBAND is ACTIVE DUTY as well as my COUSIN!! LUCKY for you that they are so you have the FREEDOM of to SPEAK however you want! BUT if you HAVE or HAD ever been ACTIVE DUTY you would know that Bush wasnt digging deep!!! People are trying to enlist right now and being turned away why BECAUSE our President wants to decimate the military branches!!!! And the WMD you speak of were most likely disposed of before we could find them! We all know Iraqs old Leader Saddam Hussein used Halabja poison gas in 1988 during his genocide of the Kurdish people. President Bush took care of the Terrorist Saddam Hussein who would have come back to bite us in the butt or our children!!! ALSO all Presidents should have to serve some military time active duty or reserve! See what its like to get paid very little while putting your life on the line....while your family qualifies for food stamps, WIC, all the while moving your family every 3 years! So while Im saying my prayers that my husband is safe at night and my cousin you go ahead and laugh donkey!!
So can we try this d-bag as a terrorist now? -_-
The morons are unhappy, that they cannot match American brains even after a million years No matter what!!!! They are fit to live in their primitive aboriginal ways .
Really James, pretty sure that's an ignorant opinion. Bet you can convince yourself of anything can't you. Mr. Giunta- you are right sir!
Actually, that would be an insightful fact. Learn the difference. Guinta, you are wrong.
Why, why, why is this taking so long?????
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Quit screwing around with this ass. Take him out, stand him against a wall and shoot the batard!
"I did it for the Taliban" That's good my friend. I hope you won't mind rotting in prison for them.
Send him to hell. He doesn't deserve to be live. He is a monster who killed innocent people. As he admitted why he killed soldiers, judgment should be to put him on death penalty.
This man killed innocent people???? I love this country filled with idiots. What do you think the great GOV does? if you dont know they kill inncent people as well (drone stirkes) BULL**** wars, SMART GUY TELL ME HOW MANY MORE INNCENT PEOPLE THE GOVERNMENT KILLS EVERYDAY VERUS THIS GUY BUT HES A TERRIOST RIGHT? WOULDNT THAT MAKE OUR GOVERNMENT A TERRIOST AS WELL. PLEASE TELL ME IT WAS ALL THE TALIBAN THAT BROUGHT DOWN THE TRADE CENTERS PLEASE SAY THAT... WATCH THE VIDEO FOOTAGE FO THEM FALLING THEN WATCH DEMOLITIONS ON BUILDIGN TELL THEY PLEASE TELL ME THEY DIDNT FALL IN A PANCAKE STYLE... yup hes a terriost adn our gov isnt lets send missles and planes to jordan cause we arent in "DEBT" ( To ourselves lmao) lets get involved in syria as well. AFTER ALL ITS AMERICAS FAVORITE PAST TIME. Good people SMART PEOPLE :) DONT GET ME WRONG WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG BUT WHAT HE DID ADN WHAT OUR GREAT GOV DOES IS THE SAME. BUT TO ALL THE IDIOTS ON HERE WE GOTTA GO WITH YUR A REPUBLICAN YOUR A DEMOCRAT YUR A LIBERAL ALL OF YOU JUST REALLY ARENT THAT SMART IF YOU WERE U WOULD SEE THEY SPLIT THIS COUNTRY UP AND MAKE US HATE EACH OTHER. ( AREN'T WE ALL GETTING SCREWED THE SAME??) EXCEPT THE RICH PEOPLE. We pay for bull**** wars get that thorugh yur head
Go back to your campout in some park and rant against the government there. Your comments are foolish at best.
NIcely said Jason! It's great to see that an 8th grader can recite the bs that your mommy and daddy spew onto your lap on a CNN thread! Well done kiddo!
Jason R...when you come down off the ceiling and inhale, realize that the terrorists could make it stop any time they want...they started it...they don't get to complain now when they get push back...
Where to begin James? I'll skip the World Trade Center thing. Your grasp of physics is clearly so far superior than mine. Thanks for explaining how the government demolished the buildings. You are so smart. OK, with that said, let's move to your comment about sending planes and bombing Jordan. JORDAN????? Jordan is a US ally you twit. The Queen of Jordan is an American. I'm not sure if your geography skills are poor or if you are alleging some new conspiracy theory about a secret war in Jordan. I REALLY hope it's a conspiracy theory. I honestly want to see your rant about this secret war in Jordan.
Get back on your Thorazine drip you poor delusional child. .!
Kid, I believe you meant Jason ;) Thanks for playing
Just curious – how did the Taliban get wrapped up in your screed? I thought the general concensus was that al-Queda was the driving force behind the 9/11 attacks.
He confessed to murder and treason. Boil him in bacon grease.
and WASTE all that yummy bacon grease?! Bite your tongue!
I REALLY like the way you think.
And still getting paid by the Army while his wounded victims are struggling to get medical care and benefits just because it was a "violence in the workplace" situation and not a terrorist attack. Where is that Army I enlisted back in 1987?
Well said. Since he admitted it, why can't it be called what it is. A terrorist act! Deranged muslim.
That army disappeared long ago under the guise of political correctness and sensitivity. We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, even if we have to kill them eventually. Credit the Clinton crowd for getting that ball rolling.
James,you are an ignoranus.
Sure bout dat fella? Ok, let's go through it shall we? ;) This Hassan guy for years told his C.O.s that he was being harrassed due to his Muslim background. They dismissed it or downright ignored it. Bush Jr. invaded a country that had zero to do with 9/11 [Iraq] , alienating millions of muslims and putting their lives in danger without cause in the process, and this Hassan guy, as a Muslim American, is supposed to just believe that particular president? Put yourself in his shoes and reverse the roles. You, a good, christian, god fearing, jesus loving soldier, live in a foreign country, and America, a good god fearing jesus loving country is being attacked [justifiably or no] and they want you to help with the slaughter. What's a believer to do? Stand by quietly? Protest [ya, cause Occupy wall street is really workin ;)]? Dessert (sp?)? Face it, you all like to pretend you'd do better, you'd do different, but really, put in his shoes roles reversed, trapped inside your own heads... you'd do the same damned thing, and you know it in your deepest heart of hearts.
What an idiotic comment.
Coming from an experienced idiot like yourself I take that as a compliment
no, i wouldn't have done the same thing...i also probably wouldn't have been in the military since just a little bit of foresight would have prevented that....
That may be the dumbest thing I have read on the CNN site, and that is saying something. If he didn't want to be part of the military, all he had to do was resign. If he felt that strongly about his religious persecution, all he had to do was move back to a part of the world where he would feel at home. Nobody forced him to stay in the military, but once he chose to, he chose to honor his oath to the United States. The guy is straight up a terrorist and a mass murderer. At least under military law he could be executed.
James,
It seems kind of strange to suggest that Hassan is a devout Muslim and that he supports the Taliban. Just yesterday Taliban murdered ten Afgan childen – ten Muslim Afgan children.
If Hassan is actually a devout Muslim, wouldn't he oppose the Taliban?
Exactly TJW! Further, if his beliefs were as you suggest Jack, he could have and should have filed for conscientious objector status. So, why didn't he do that? Perhaps, so that he could infiltrate the military to the best of his abilities and maximize the impact of his terrorist act(s). I don't think you are dumb but you are far too interested in trying to prove others wrong and trying to support a position that I suspect you know is unsupportable. Am I getting somewhere here?
I meant James above. Not Jack. Sorry Jack.
tc, yes, yes you would and with a big smile on your face for jesus the whole time too :)
Jack and KidO, um ok... let's go with the hypocrisy first... conservatives nation wide are screaming bloody murder over the obama administration's use of drones to kill americans over seas without trial [which isn't exactly true since he was tried in abscencia] and now you all just want to up and off this guy? That's for starters, and then there's the fact that neither of you seems to understand the notion of a captive audience and military contractual obligations. That being said, I highly doubt that after the number of years he requested transfer, that he would feel he'd get any headway in regards to a consciencious objector form ;) Truth be told, I want this guy to have the absolute best representation he can have, even if he means to defend himself, i want someone there to actually help him give the finest defense laying out the most noble reasons he can muster for doing what he did, that way there will be noone to say he was treated unfairly or given poor representation on purpose. I want him to have all this because no matter what this guy says, his actions are NOT justified. Heck, I wanted Bin laden to have the same thing but he got shot and for some dumb reason all you nut job conservatives cheered that. We don't want these people to become martyrs, especially since that's what they want. None of this however, removes the culpability of the bush administration for setting up the environment for this guy to get trapped inside his head so deeply that he, a brother in arms, would kill his own brothers, but even considering that, how would any of you feel if not only you were not being heard when requesting a transfer, but are now ORDERED to go kill the very people you see no just reason in fighting? The fact is, the taliban had nothing to do with 9/11, nor did Iraq. The US lied to everyone else, so why should this guy have any reason to believe us?
Do you suppose Hassan knew about this? "“Was Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora?” CBS correspondent Scott Pelley last year asked George Tenet in a “60 Minutes” interview.
“We believe that he was,” Tenet replied.
Gary Berntsen, the key CIA field commander on the ground near Tora Bora at the time, says he requested 800 American army rangers to prevent bin Laden’s escape. The request was denied by Franks, he claims, who argued U.S. troops were not necessary, because a local Afghan militia had been hired to fight in their place.
In his book, “Jawbreaker,” Berntsen contests claims by Franks and the White House that bin Laden wasn’t at Tora Bora.
“He was there,” he said, “and could have been caught.” and this...
The Bush administration has concluded that Osama bin Laden was present during the battle for Tora Bora late last year and that failure to commit U.S. ground troops to hunt him was its gravest error in the war against al Qaeda, according to civilian and military officials with first-hand knowledge.
Intelligence officials have assembled what they believe to be decisive evidence, from contemporary and subsequent interrogations and intercepted communications, that bin Laden began the battle of Tora Bora inside the cave complex along Afghanistan's mountainous eastern border. Though there remains a remote chance that he died there, the intelligence community is persuaded that bin Laden slipped away in the first 10 days of December. [The Washington Post, 4/17/02] and this... Would these have incensed him? The American bombardment of Tora Bora, which had been going on for a month, yielded to saturation airstrikes on Nov. 30 in anticipation of the ground war. Hundreds of civilians died that weekend, along with a number of Afghan fighters, according to Hajji Zaman, who had already dispatched tribal elders from the region to plead with bin Laden's commanders to abandon Tora Bora. Three days later, on Dec. 3, in one of the war's more shambolic moments, Hazarat Ali announced that the ground offensive would begin. Word quickly spread through the villages and towns, and hundreds of ill-prepared men rushed to the mountain's base. The timing of the call to war was so unexpected that Hajji Zahir, one of its three lead commanders, told journalists at the time that he nearly slept through it.
On a map, it was little more than a mile from the bottom of the White Mountains to the first tier of the Qaeda caves, but the snow was thick and the slopes were steep and, for the Afghan fighters, it was a three-hour climb. They were ambushed nearly as soon as they arrived. The battle lasted for only 10 minutes before bin Laden's fighters disappeared up the slope and the Afghans limped away. Over the coming days, a pattern would emerge: the Afghans would strike, then retreat. On some occasions, a cave would change hands twice in one day. It was only on the third day of the battle that the three dozen Special Forces troops arrived. But their mission was strictly limited to assisting and advising and calling in air strikes, according to the orders of Gen. Tommy Franks, the head of U.S. Central Command, who was running the war from his headquarters in Tampa, Fla.
Even after the arrival of the Special Forces, the Afghan militias were making little headway in their efforts to assault the Qaeda caves – largely as a result of heavier resistance than they had expected – despite having launched simultaneous attacks from the east, west and north. They had sent none of their forces to the south, where the highest peaks of the White Mountains are bisected by the border with Pakistan. The commanders, according to news reports, argued vehemently among themselves on what the conditions on the southern side of the mountain were: some insisted it was uncrossable, closed in by snow; other commanders were far less sure.
By now, the Taliban's stronghold in Kandahar had fallen or, more correctly, had been abandoned by the soldiers of the regime. The Taliban retreat from Kandahar was emblematic of the war. None of Afghanistan's cities had been won by force alone. Taliban fighters, after intense bombing, had simply made strategic withdrawals. A number of American officers were now convinced that this was about to happen at Tora Bora, too.
One of them was Brig. Gen. James N. Mattis, the commander of some 4,000 marines who had arrived in the Afghan theater by now. Mattis, along with another officer with whom I spoke, was convinced that with these numbers he could have surrounded and sealed off bin Laden's lair, as well as deployed troops to the most sensitive portions of the largely unpatrolled border with Pakistan. He argued strongly that he should be permitted to proceed to the Tora Bora caves. The general was turned down. An American intelligence official told me that the Bush administration later concluded that the refusal of Centcom to dispatch the marines – along with their failure to commit U.S. ground forces to Afghanistan generally – was the gravest error of the war. [The New York Times, 9/11/05]
but Naaaaaahhhhh, none of this could have had an affect on such a man ;) Especially a man dealing with PTSD victims, in a military unit, who understands top down [I know you conservatives love to use that label] manipulations ;) ;) *nudge, nudge*
Torture is legal in the USA.
Actually, no. No it's not.
The Army used to have a very quick way of dealing with what amounts to treason.
@Marty Sure... just as soon as you admit that Behngazi was the result of an insulting youtube video ;)
Just another random act of workplace violence by a disgruntled employee, defiantly not a terrorist, defiantly not a act of terrorism, not him.
Work place violence? The US Govt needs to call a spade a spade. This Motha Fukka just told us what he did and why. We need stop being so worried about offending those who would do and have done us grave harm. What he did should be considered treason and he should be put to death. End of story. Period.
Please kill him.
Are you stupid liberals FINALLY going to admit he is a muslim terrorist?????
Found another chance to rag on liberals did you? You are as extremist as the Taliban in your blind hatred.
OMG what a hypocrite- it sickens me how many times I've seen libs on hear praising the death of soldiers. Chris Smith is a great example.
You're comparison is way off base and there is more truth in what he said than your comparison to the Taliban.
Pot [JBones] meet Kettle
Sure,Marty.We also want to admit you are a stupid idiot,okay?
I'm a lifelong liberal and I say put him to death. Enough is enough.
I fail to see how my political stance is going to change the way the military characterized the incident. It is the military calling it "workplace violence," not any elected body of legislators, Place blame where blame is due, and not be making sweeping generalizations about people's feelings based on their presumed political affiliations.
Agree with everyone else. Get rid of this clown. Sounds like a guilty plea to me.
How did this rat get in this country? Now that the rat is in ,everyone can here it's squeak! Rats miserable face Speaks for itself. Get the rat poison ,guys.
We're still going with workplace violence, right?
Quit wasting taxpayer funds. A bullet is cheap.
Why is a trial necessary now? This is a confession of treason - giving aid and comfort to the enemy. In an age that maintained some sort of standards, he would be hanged - and it wouldn't have taken three and a half years.
These 3 1/2 years spent is not to help him.. Help rest of us and prevent any more attacks like this one. If at least one is prevented after learning the facts.. it's worth it.
Well, Mr Patton-2 I guess you don't watch the news and see what the Taliban has done to US Troops. He was a member of the US Army when he committed the act of terrorist aggression. He is on the wrong side wearing the wrong uniform. I think about the 13 men who died because of his allegiance to the Taliban. He sure as hell did not belong in the Uniform of the United States. I hope he gets what is coming to him. I can't believe we are waiting this long to try him.
Courts will handle it. Hes not coming out.
How on earth did Army Maj. Nidal Hassan expect to protect the Taliban by doing what he did at Ft. Hood that fateful day? He got himself into a no win situation and now is in no position to help anyone. I can't blame him for feeling the way he did and a lot of ignoramuses here are going to blog on this web page their usual ignorant rants against him!!!
"got himself into a no win situation" That is called multiple premeditated murders and we are not ignoramuses sir, YOU are one!
Actually William, that would make you AND Hassan ignoramouses. :) Just the facts
Sorry You must be laboring under the delusion I'm a republican convincing myself George Bush was a right and Just president and who believes Sarah Palin was actually qualified ;)
How in the name of Patton's ghost can you use that name and post such garbage? The guy did not have to be in the military and he killed men wearing the same uniform in violation of his oath and of military law. He did so while advocating a belief in favor of enemies of this country and his sworn commitment. He should be executed for his crimes, and as a little bit of an added insult (just as Pershing did in the Philiipines) be buried wrapped in a pig skin, in an unmarked grave.
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