Marines on alert if U.S. personnel evacuate Libya
By CNN Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr
Several dozen combat-ready U.S. Marines stationed in southern Spain have been put on alert to potentially move into Libya and assist in the evacuation of American personnel if the unrest grows there in the coming days, a senior military official confirms to CNN.
The Marines have not yet moved from their base, but could be ordered to move closer to Libya so they could get there faster if a full evacuation is ordered.
A team of special operations forces also are on standby in Germany to assist, if needed.
The Marines in Spain are supposed to be ready to move within six hours of notification. By moving them closer, that time frame could be cut in half.
The Marines were sent to Spain in recent weeks as part of a new permanent contingency force capable of moving into North Africa very quickly after the deadly attack in Benghazi last year showed military forces were not close enough to assist.
The force in Spain totals about 500 Marines with six V-22 aircraft they can use to move quickly.
The United States has already withdrawn some embassy personnel, but with militants blocking some portions of the city, the military option would be used if personnel cannot get to the commercial airport, the official said.
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Muslims were not muslims before they became muslims and before that you were slaves nothing more nothing less who gave the world inbreading practices on a large scale.
Once you enter the land of Libya will discover that what happened to you in Afghanistan and Iraq is a joke compared to what will happen to you in Libya
Libya will become a graveyard for you beware our anger, we young people of Libya are not afraid of death never
No these are Marines and these are not the regular women and children that you are accoustomed to mudering, these Marines shoot back.
America is the root of all terror. America has invaded sixty countries since world war 2.
In 1953 America overthrow Iran's democratic government Mohammad Mosaddegh and installed a brutal dictator Shah. America helped Shah of Iran to establish secret police and killed thousands of Iranian people.
During Iran-Iraq war evil America supported Suddam Hossain and killed millions of Iranian people. In 1989, America, is the only country ever, shot down Iran's civilian air plane, killing 290 people.
In 2003,America invaded Iraq and killed 1,000,000+ innocent Iraqi people and 4,000,000+ Iraqi people were displaced.
Now America is a failed state with huge debt. Its debt will be 22 trillion by 2015.
I noticed that D. Cheney has been out calling plays for conservatives (repubes) the past few days to drag the Clintons name through the streets @ the hands of rupert murdoch
When US will realize that bringing "Democracie" to this countries is only opening a safe heaven to Al Qaeda in those uncontrollable contries, look Hussein, Qaddafi, Syria, did not not support Al Qeda
Coups Arranged or Backed by the USA
Since 1945, the USA has been responsible either directly or indirectly of helping remove dozens of governments, many democratically elected, around the world. Sometimes the events are kept secret for years and only slowly come out. Other times, the events are the cause of demonstrations, anger and resentment at the time they occur.
Whenever, an event like this occurs there are two reasons to be considered.
Reason 1: The reason given by the USA, its media and its friends around the world. Reasons like Communism, Terrorism, Human Rights, Freedom, Liberation, Weapons of Mass Destruction, etc.
Reason 2: The actual reason. This is usually hidden from the general public and has to be looked for in quotes by under-reported officials or subsequent events on the ground. Often, the victims of the change of government know the real reasons better than the populations of the Western countries. Real reasons are many but usually include Business Interests, Access to Resources, Markets, Military Bases, Strategic Value, or Political Support.
In the list below only successful changes of government are listed. Many attempts have failed. Cuba is the best example of this.
Muslims haven't evolved enough to comprehend freedom. They're essentially Neanderthals.
Civilian Victims of USA Foreign Policy
Why is the USA resented around the world?
The USA is responsible if it directly attacks or bombs another country. It is responsible if it unilaterally imposes economic sanctions that kill. It is also responsible if it arms, trains and supports regimes that violate human rights.
2002 Iraq Bombing (with UK). unknown
2002 Yemen Missile attack on vehicle. 6
2003 Afghanistan Support for war lords. 300 +
2003 Algeria Finacial and military support for unelected government. hundreds
2003 Iraq Invasion (with UK). 17,000 +
2003 Bolivia Support for government that is crushing economic dissent. 40
1976 to 2003 Indonesia Support for government suppressing minorities in Aceh province. 12,000 +
2003 Palestinian Territories Political support, finance and arms. hundreds
2003 Uzbekistan Support for dictator. unknown
2004 Palestinian Territories Political support, finance and arms. 1,400 +
2003 to 2007 Iraq Invasion and Occupation (with UK). 655,000 +
2006 Palestine, Lebanon Political support and arms. (with UK). 1,300 + (to August)
2006 Haiti Removal of elected government. (with France). 8,000 + (to September)
2007 Somalia Removal of government. (with Ethiopia). 2,000 +
2008 Palestine Political support for siege and killings. 700 +
2009 Palestine Political support and arms. 1,300 +
2008 to 2011 Pakistan Unmannded drone attacks. 2,000 +
Dear Mr. Muslim's s*c*,
Read any history book about empires and you will realise that we Muslims established the world's longest running empire (we ruled the known world for 800 years). Through that empire we brought knowledge, decency and civilisation to Europe (the continent YOUR ancestors migrated from) when they were in the dark ages. America wasn't even ON the map back then.
What has your young fleeting empire brought the world aside from Ignorance, war, hatred and destruction?
I don't have to say a word. brilliant.
Dear Whitehouse...Please for once TELL THE TRUTH about what happened in Benghazi and how the President, the UN Ambassador, Hillary Clinton and the rest of your worthless lying cabinet could not show the American people enough common courtesy to tell us the TRUTH. Tell us how either the Whitehouse, cabinet members or the CIA gave the stand down order and prevented the Special Forces from going in and killing the enemy who had just murdered a US AMBASSADOR.
Tell us the TRUTH about how the government of the United States is arming, training and funding alqeda in Syria, and how the "embassy", wasn't an embassy at all, but a clearing house for militant fighters coming out of Iraq and other parts of the Middle East and how the Ambassador was in fact arming militants fighting against Bashar Al-Asad. You are arming, funding and training the very people you claim are our enemy...or is it that you are friends with them now because they are fighting your proxy war against the Syrians, the same way as Bin Laden was our attack dog that we armed, trained and funded during our 11 year proxy war with the Russians in Afghanistan, before our lap dog Bin Laden did something that put him out of good standing with this government and so we hunted him down and killed him...
Come on, TELL US THE TRUTH. We deserve that.
You truthers are nuts and scary.
You are probably still fed up why the government will not come clean on the interstellar space travelers who go back in time to attempt to overtake our government from the past, too.
@ caesarbc: You lack logic and you are completely oblivious to facts. You are lazy and apathetic; why bother searching for the news when it is delivered to you throught CNN or Fox?
Advice: Go to college, write a few point papers on current events in the world, you will fail miserably unless you actively research and cite credible sources.
Recommended: http://www.kaotic.com (see videos related to Syria, maybe this slay your ignorance)
Wise Phrase: You can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts.
Conclusion: You don't question authority or tradition. I feel we have more to fear from your brand of ignorance then we do from "terrorists".
Well said Jon. I think that it is interesting that the Pravda's story above is not what everyone is responding to. Very scary times. What is more scary the "story" or the defenders of the "story"? The good news is that clutchs of the Pravda are being destroyed by this thing called the internet.
Sources please. Without them you're just spitting out hearsay and propoganda, just like you claim The Administration is doing. Please sir, only give me facts that are backed up my hard evidence.
TO: rp1588
May 10th, 2013 6:57 pm ET-there is absolutly nothing true in what you wrote NOTHING–you sound like a recuiter for (GEE-HA-D).
If you guys get the order, watch each other's backs and come back safely.
Even if they are on alert now–our spineless President will order the stand down again just like the White House did when they were complicit in the murder of a US Ambassador. This is the MOST CORRUPT government we have had in many decades.
@Jon,don't have do look far in corruptive administrations with Bushs and Reagan.Now idiot compare you delushional clown!!
@Jon,use your head for other than holding your hair if you have any..Would you sacrifice much more than 4 to rescue them if they were alive because of moral grounds or you just not thinking..Stevens and his cohorts were told to evacuate hours before and if they stayed it was their incompetence that got them killed not Hillary or Pres.Obama period!!!They weren't at the Tripoli embassy they were in an unfortified annex miles away and had locals trained there as guards instead of marines that are stationed at the regular embassies internationally..This is because in 2010 Issa,Chaffetz with their republican collegues voted for cuts in defense funds including security at embassies and theres the smoking gun republicans don't want brought up in public and its republicans lied and Stevens,others died!!Just please all you ignorents on this site read before shoving that piece of leather in your mouths because you never know where you stepped last do yah!!And Hillary is retired and you can't get Pres.Obama on this either nitwits!!Can't wait to see Hillary as president in 2016 Priceless!!!
tell the army regiments to stand down, we're sending 2 dozen Marines
Who on the pen side of the desk will actualy know in the future what exactly the services will/can do when they make choices on real short notice?
God speed gentlemen and come home safe.
six hours...and is that a quick response team or what . Because allot can happen in six hours . Why not have them stationed in...say southern Italy . Closer...better yet put em on a boat in the Med . Just north of Libya . Why Spain..why six hours..That sounds like disaster on a six hour window. Because now anyone who would try to harm our People there KNOW they have at least six hours...lead time..WELL THAT WAS SMART...Our Military Leaders...The Joint Chiefs....are they really that stupid... Perhaps they are perhaps they are....and there worried about PRIVATE MANNING giving aid to the enemy...Yep...
I give President Obama credit for being appropriately responsive to this volatile situation. I think the administration felt it necessary to reveal the actions we are taking, due to the controversy surrounding the 9/11 events. If not for that, these steps may have been done under wraps. This administration must feel that somebody is looking over their shoulder ready to pounce at any given moment. What a sad state of affairs.
um – this administration is doing all this because they are trying to cover for the whole benghazi f-up the first time. who knows how volatile this really is right now – versus obummer staging this to try to look like he has learned his lesson this time – the guy is such a liar, now one can tell the truth anymore. IF this were a real issue, the Marines would already be there.
@ Anney Oakley: If "appropriately responsive to this volatile situation" = ordering a stand-down on Special Forces teams an hour away in Tripoli, ensuring that Chris Stevens and others were brutally murdered, lying to the public saying that the attack on the consulate was because of unrest related to a controversial YouTube video, covering up movement of weapons to brutal terrorist groups murdering thousands of innocent people in Syria, from Turkey with the consulate being the launch pad in the region, and placing Al-Qaeda linked groups of people to "protect" the consulate, etc. then I guess maybe you are right. I concur I feel that the powers that be have been "appropriately responsive" in this volatile situation. Anney Oakley, you are on crack!
blanco – You make all of these accusations, like your republican friends do.... Yet after 8 freaking hearings you still have nothing. Are you going to hold hearings until 2016? It's rediculous. If you have damning information, come out with it. Stop spending taxpayer money for a witch hunt. Pass a freaking budget! Pass immigration laws. Pass a jobs bill.... Nope. Alll you do is try to position yourselves for the next election by going on unfounded witch hunts.
The hearings revealed nothing? Really? Turn off messnbc and watch a real news report. You've missed a lot in the last 12 hours. It's statistically impossible for one group to be wrong all the time. It reveals your child-like view of your political opponents.
@ken,what watch your fav in FOX,no freakin way ..And Rupert is your hero as well,also a freakin communist if you know who Murdoch is!!
AMEN to that ...
show time !!!! don't bring back ammo.
Hey Barbara Starr/CNN. Who/what is the source of this report ? I think you have been watching Fuax Nooze !
There you again. Militants are blocking exits from the U.S. Embassy and yet they are still waiting, waiting for what. Well, you have to wait until you have casualties.
Colonel kadaffi
Gave up his nuclear program and handed over tons of info on Pakistani proliferation
Renounced terrorism, including support for Palestinian groups (Very hard to do in the region)
Liberlaized the econiomy and invited American companies.
Handed over two men, over the Lockerbie incident even though everyone knew they were innocent
Was never shown to have anty involvement in Lockertbie
Here are the questions these "journalists should be asking:
Why did Obama join with the Noecon Cabal and wack kadaffi?
Who really did Lockerbie?
Did Obama nd his neocon buddies commit warcrimes in their Libya adventure?
OPERATION EL DORADO CANYON ~ All proof needed was there!
Is that related to Operation Eldorado Motors? I would believe it.
All four from USA who died militarily invaded one or more countries. The "ambassador" was directly involved in terrorist bombings in Libya.
It's too late to get Reagan, though.
Wow getting attacked by the Libyan people that is our reward for helping out the Libyan people.
-We help out they attack us. (meddling)
-We don't help they attack us. (support of tyrants)
-We buy stuff from them they attack us. (exploitation)
-We don't buy stuff they attack us. (embargo)
The Arab world is the most worthless piece of the globe. They hate us for being us, really that is what it comes down to. America\west\whole civilized world is why their life stinks. Israel existing is why their life stinks. They are like your hater neighbor who spends his whole life complaining about what other people have instead of looking in the mirror and saying what is wrong with me and what can I change to make a better life for myself.
Everybody knows what you said is true although I suspect somebody will dispute it.
Obama doesn't dare let more Americans die due to his political corruption and incompetence. Kerry probably told Obama to resign.
"Marines on alert if U.S. personnel evacuate Libya"
Why bother? We know this administration regarding US personnel.
"What does it matter at this point?"
Where were your protests about the 8 other attacks on american embassies under the previous administration? All of a sudden, it's a plot. Why aren't you holding hearings about the other 8 incidents? Is that because it was under a rep[ublican administration and you are a republican. You are so transparent.
So you think a set of talking points is more important than actually figuring out what actually happened, what went wrong, what could have been altered in possible agency stances prior, etc so improvements can be made.
Guess what it can be both politicized and needed at the same time. Clinton was right the witch hunt over talking points is exactly that it does not matter at this point. What does matter is actually looking at the system and determining what can be improved within the system itself to help improve chances of a better outcome next time. What some said the next day when there is always still issues verifying multiple information chains coming into any agency won't do anything to improve those chances. That is a witch hunt.
When it comes to our military strategies, there are some things that does not need to be published for the world to know. And this is one of them. Now, you potentially place Marines in harms way just by exposing their where-abouts. Some things should be on a 'Need to know' basis. And this is one of them. Semper Fi Hard Chargers!!!
Afirmative , also the Green Berets in Germany are mentioned. COMSEC and OPSEC come to mind. .. hooah
Everyone knows there are special forces in Germany. Just like everyone should know there are special forces units in Azerbaijan preparing for an attack on Iran.
The other side also reads the news. Your comment is well intended but you should consider that the folks who authorized the press release at the Pentagon also have a commitment to operational security AND success. Even if this release is just about political transparency there's no tactical data in it. You're exceeding your pay grade :P
You are correct, and now you also have the catch 22. If nothing was published and something happened it would become a political talking point in a witch hunt. I wouldn't be suprised if in all this mess there is classified information that cannot be released that actually provides information needed, but since it cant come out the sides are using it to say oh but theres more.
That is IF you are really planning to deploy them. Me thinks this is one of obama's staged "look how ready I am" things to try to recover from benghazi-gate now that he has been caught out for major lies. Manufactured chaos...
They must have oil...or we would not be there....can we 'get the oil out too'!!
You mean we still have fools over in Libya? It's bad enough that 4 Americans were dumb enough to stay there when everyone wants to kill them. Now we read they are still there?
Folks, if you don't want Americans to die in enemy countries, duh, get them out!
And stop all the political whining about who's fault it was – it's those idiots stationed there!
Unfortunately, the Repigs want a comeback badly and put the country in real real bad shape again, now that the economy is getting momentum. They make Benghazi their piece of cake or their attack dog. They imagined we let those Americans die in the embassy mercilessly.
Obama is the POTUS...not a repig so any action that takes place is HIS CALL!!! The POTUS can make war for 90 days without an act of congress, only with the Marine Corps...which is why they care called the President's own! So stop with the rethug, repig,,,etc cause it's your guy doing all this!
They were doing our nation's business and you feel arrogant enough to call them dumb?
You're are not worthy to lick their boots!
The country is about worthless and the Americans remain there. Why not evacuate them now while there is a chance of not having to fire a single bullet and ensure that all the Americans that work there will come home to see their families? No, I guess it will have to be a repeat performance of Benghazi. And how about that 500 Marines in Spain. I guess American lives are not valuable any longer to this administration only the increase in taxes matter to this White House, and their kind.
They're trying, but as the article reads, their paths are blocked by militants.
Congratulations to GB Cameron and FR Sarkozy on yet another "Mission Accomplished" in the Wars to make the Mega-Corporations richer.
they should issue the marines at the embassies claymores, mark 19's and two apaches in the hostile regions – they should be built like old castles ready to withstand a siege and also................. chemical weapons...
You're a fvcking retard
That's funny, I thought all our problems were solved with Arab Spring and the death of Gaddafi. Why can't we just find an alternative for oil already and get out of that God forsaken part of the world?!!!!
We already have found large amounts of oil in this county and within a few years we will be the largest oil producer in the world, but you don't see anyone assisting us in becoming oil independent. Our Government should be pressing our in country oil companies to expand refinery building and in the interim, take emergency measures to save gas and oil by American citizens by conserving. It is a threat to United States security NOT to be oil independent. In 2007 I bought a Toyota Prius to save fuel because at that time it was considered if you wasted fuel you were helping the terroists. No I'm called un-American because I have a Toyota and am saving fuel. You can't please everyone.
That's why I keep calling it "al-Qaeda Spring"!
There is nothing good coming out of it. And the more France, GB and US help: the uglier they come!
It is like Midas story: but there is no gold in it, only crap!
Maybe now is a good time to reflect on the stupidity of regime change?
With the advent of technology, one would assume we could do without embassies. Simply issuing a "swim at your own risk" to those who dare think to visit an anti-american populous.
strike another blunder for the US gov't.The 'enemy of my enemy is my friend,'thing,doesn't always work.Ask Al Qaeda and the Italian mob-both of whom we trained and funded.L-O-L
The Italian mob???? When did th US fund and train them? Are you referring to the OSS operations with them prior to the WWII invasion of Sicily? Other than that I agree completely. And I would add such things as our support of assorted dictators like Somoza in Nigaragua, Batista in Cuba, various militry dictators in South Vietnam, Iran's Shah, etc.
Just some more peaceful protests over another internet movie ?
Yeah, the movie is "Willie12345's mom gets fingercuffed by 2 BBC's"
look even you liberals have to admit obummer and hilliary were asleep when Benghazi happened. nobody would be blaming them had they done anything earlier when the ambassador begged for more security a month earlier. it was denied then when the attack happened they did nothing. help could have been sent between the time first attack ended and the second began. then they lied about it for a week by keeping to the islam protest video lie. they were scrambling for a way to cover it up until they could get their story straight. the truth is there if you will only watch and listen.
And where was Bush on 9/11/01? That's right, reading a childrens book while looking like a deer in headlights.
@Tak,remember Clinton giving Bushs administration intel saying some cities were potential targets by terrorists and all Bush did was line his bird cage floor with it didn't he..But even though Bush,Reagan had more die on their watchs in embassies,marine barricks than Pres.Obama ,Hillary its fair game for the sanctumonious republicans to chastise others isn't it..Just another Issa generated witch hunt that costs millions of taxpayers dollars but gets no results because as usual the blind are leading the blind here aren't they!!!And you guys didn't think the republicans were good at dog and pony shows,what about now!!
Glad we have "enlightened" folks to point out nonsense like this to us...move along to Fauxnews please.
Do you have an intelligent response to give? Apparently not. Are you representative of the lack of intelligence liberals possess?
seems intelligent to me. You're just a fvcking fox watching dolt that can't figure out what the comment means
@SCBAMA,remember bud you believed Bushs BS and voted for him twice,now who's the freakin idiot here bud!!!You are a proud conservative aren't yah or just masquerading as one!!
Hush now, little blathering bedwetter . .
Your sad FAIL is sad and complete . .
Republicans reaching so hard to find something wrong it makes them look bad. Where were they when we had all of those attacks under Bush? Oh yeah they didn't care because it hurt their political side, never mind the Americans we lost, that is not important to them. I want to see some of them step up and admit the fact that they voted for the funding cuts that helped cause this. None will.
Oh yeah and during the latest hearings we found out those made up accusations were false...
As with all political scandals, it's not the original transgression that gets them in trouble, it's the coverup. After all, Watergate was about a petty burglary. Nobody is arguing that it's Obama/Clinton's fault that the 4 Americans died in Benghazi, that's the terrorists fault. The problem is that the administration willfully lied with the intent to mislead the American public, they manipulated and twisted intelligence reports to fit their political agenda, and they continue to mislead and obstruct. If Obama/Clinton have nothing to hide ... then release their e-mails.
Remember how liberals used to be indignant when they accused Bush of doing this? Will now your Messiahs Obama and Clinton have been caught red-handed.
Yeah, Obama's mistake was that he didn't use the Benghazi attack as an excuse to invade a completely different country. That approach worked pretty well for Bush. Seriously though, I would've liked to have seen the Republicans offer an equal amount of enthusiasm into an investigation of the intelligence breakdown that caused the first 9/11. You know, the one that killed nearly 3000 US civilians going about their daily lives. I'm not minimizing the loss of the four government employees in Benghazi, but at least they knew that they were working in a very risky environment (and it was the Ambassadors choice to leave the relative security of the embassy to venture out to a much less secure mission)..
BS...They did a BID COVER UP, and lied....the truth is coming to light, and your kind don't like the truth! Plain & Simple....They all need to be put out of office for this.
Do you think if Hillary was the Libyan Ambassador this would have happened?
@Blanco,get a grip bud..I'll keep pounding this nasty fact in your conservative skulls till you either back off talking crap about Benghazi or you'll all have freakin head aches soon..Ambassador Stevens was told to leave the annex earlier with his other collegues all exmilitary men and failed to do so..The annex was miles away from the fortified Tripoli embassy that actually had real marines that guarded it not locals trained at the other one because of Issa ,Chaffetz and buds voting for security cuts at embassies against Pres.Obamas advise to expand security before this incident happened..And why send in more soldiers in a hotbed of the region knowing more than four could've been killed because of the upcoming anniversary of 9/11 and Kadafis recent overthrow ...There's more here than republicans want to admit and after its said and done you'll see republicans are more to blame than anything Hillary,Pres.Obama ever did and republicans the sanctumonious ones will fail to admit it won't they!!
What was false? Please explain. You can't.
I guess the Marines are about to be on the "shores of Tripoli." The song doesn't lie!
Yeah, apparently we didn't learn from the first round or time that we fought Islamists over there during the Jefferson administration.
During that time, Thomas Jefferson bought a Koran to read. He read it for the sole purpose that he might understand his enemy better.
We would be wise to do the same...
V-22 = not very fast :(
It's a lot faster than needing to land at an airport, secure the airport, move to the site on foot, secure the civilians, get them back to the airport, and then take off. And it's faster than a helicopter.
There are no supersonic transports that can take off and land vertically.
V-22 max airspeed – 305 knots
CH-53 max airspeed – 170 knots
So your claim of "not very fast" lacks perspective unless you believe combat ready troops can be transported in AV-8B Harriers.
V-22 = Fastest rotary winged aircraft ever conceived. So not sure where you get your info.
Why are we in Libya? I am very sure the positives outweigh the negatives! Time for the US to fix its backyard (Schools, crime, economy, infrastructure) before playing in others.
Those are Embassy staff.
They have ALOT of Oil, and very good infrastructure to exploit it. Gadhafi was not willing to give Western companies a big enough break, so a well organized and planned Arab Spring Erupted.
We get no oil from Libya. GB does. Try again my uninformed voter friend.
We have Embassies all around the world. The are a conduit for official communications and cooperation. The also facilitate safety for Americans in the country. Their politics come before things need to be escalated.
Here goes our fascination with "freedom fighters." Like this outcome wasn't obvious two years ago.
Political correctness is not a strategy.
It doesn't matter how much you want to deny the violent nature of the culture in the Middle East. It is not safe to be there. :|
"...after the deadly attack in Benghazi last year showed military forces were not close enough to assist."
Love the way Barbara Starr starts her article with a strawman lie. What wasn't in position last 9/11 was Obama's ability to make a decision and Clinton's ability to think of someone besides herself.
Too much FAUX News for you!
Peter, as in the words of the great John Adams:
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
Another uninfomed voter. Got anything useful to add to the conversation?
YA! Classic seenn "trying" to protect obama.
what did Valerie Plame know.
why are our troops in spain, when they could be in saudi arabia, i am sure our good friends would let us stage there. just kidding i know they are not our friends and they will not lift a finger to help. just making a point about middle eastern relationships
look at a map. Saudi arabia is land locked with egypt, jordan israel and syria. marines don't need to be crossing questionable or hostile territories in order to respond to libya uprising. second. spain and libya are accessible to the mediterranean which means battleships can support our response team, 3rd. our good friends the saudis, and they are our good friends, would surely let us stage there...at our own US BASIS THERE. the US has had basis there since before the first gulf war. the only problem is they are on the other side of the county, close to the kuwait and Iraq boarders. in other words if you wanted to stage a rapid response to muslim extremists in libya. saudi arabia is not a good place to do it.
YEAH! cuz um Italy isnt right next to Libya or anything and we dont have a base on Sicily or anything.....
buy a globe
Seems time to forward deploy troops and ships now, not wait for another incident. Do we still have ships in the Med?
There is/should be a MEU and a carrier group in the MED, in addition to all of the NATO bases.
...and there are Marines on air alert at Lejeune, 24×7.
The Army has a similar system as well.
we have ships everywhere!
This isn't political at all, I just wanted to say that that picture alone makes me want to be a Marine... BAMF.
In my opinion, all Americans including military should evacuate Libya permanently.
CNN used the same posed photo from an article about a month ago.
Yes, it's called a "stock photo."
Do you think they're going to send a photographer to take a fresh picture every time there's a news blurb?
Does anyone really think this was taken today?
But not a word about the 500 pounds of explosives stolen from a government bunker. CNN sucks
What no one seems to have asked either in this story or the Benghazi story, where the heck are our Assault Carrier 6th fleet task force's ?
Another incompetent military operation in the offing – like 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
Can't agree with that dionoia, seldom are our military operations incompetent, but when you mix dept of state or political goals t with them it most certainly will become a cluster fornication. Do not unleash the dogs of war and then try to play nice guy.
Lew...Do you really think Bush would of made a difference in Benghazi? Do you realize how many attacks we had on embassies during his watch. I think it was around 7.
12 embassy attacks under Bush's watch, 53 American deaths. Three congressional hearings.
@Phaerisee,yes and you can go back to the Reagan era in the 80s and over 300 died in 2 embassies and a marine barricks attacks by terrorists..Nothing done by a republican majority in both houses then and you all know that this with the Iran Contra deal should've had him impeached but if they did after throwing Nixon out republicans wouldn't never had another president in the WH,FACT!!And remember there was more corruption under republican led governments than any democratic one and if you need facts you'll get them from me!!
Yes professor. Remember when we had troops in Somalia and "Blackhawk Down" took place? It was the republican controlled congress that cut funding so Clinton had to pull out the troops.
Do you remember the Republican mantra when Clinton fired a cruise missle that barely missed Bin Laden? It went something like this: " No more missles for Monica".
Funny how instances like that slip the republican mind...
Clinton did not cut troops, he removed armor and air assets. There were plenty of troops. When the Marines went in initially, under Bush Sr., they went in with their air and armor and actually conducted an amphibious landing. I think that it was a CNN camera crew that gave away a "position' by shining their camera light on a Marine.
The Clinton administration made the decision that it was just going to be a Humanitarian mission, and did not allow the Army (they replaced the Marines) to bring their armor or Apaches. The Army had to "make do" with what they had on hand.
Actually the Clinton administration turned down TF Rangers request for assists.
The Democratic mantra is to blame lack of funding....what a load of nonsense. We see through this. I am neither GOP or Democrat, but Independent. I always liked Hillary but am very disgusted at the way the administration is throwing this hot potato around.
Remember–9/11 occurred as a direct result of the budget cuts Clinton made to defense and intelligence, despite all the terrorist attacks on his watch.
Not quite right. The 9-11 attacks were a consequence of a failed American policy of supporting tyrants in the middle east in exchange for access to oil.
@yakobi,Clintons admin gave Bush intel saying that in the near future certain cities nationwide were targets of supposid terrorists groups including BinLadens and Bush never followed through with checking up on it..Total BS from Bushs crew and republicans knew it...
???¿?? Why are we in Spain!!!!!
Because they are friends, it's safe and they are near enough to mount a rapid response.
We have always been in Spain. Ever heard of Rota, we have an enormous naval base there.
There is a FAST Co detachment in Spain. They are there to respond to any situation in the Med. It has been this way for about 20 years.
Evacuate???? I thought we just left them there to die and them blame it on some made up lie about why America had it coming for making fun of the "Religion of Peace" ie; Islam.
the empire needs UY
the empire needs more cowbell
Good question. Why are we anywhere – hundreds of overseas bases.
Probably WWII....we realized that when we "isolate" ourselves from the world and stick our head in the sand, World Wars tend to break out...I agree that we are "overextended" and need to reallocate resources to meet 21st Century threats; however, just withdrawing from the world will only allow extremism to grow and flourish.
Roda Cadiz few other places Marines go and live
in the africa mediterainian AOP (Areas Of Operation)
army airforce too.. actually they are more than you think, we have troops all over europe including USSR
did you know that we are still in cuba? we have been in cuba since the spanish american war...even during the cuban missile crisis, the base is called guantanamo bay.....my point is the US is everywhere!
"The Marines were sent to Spain in recent weeks as part of a new permanent contingency force capable of moving into North Africa very quickly after the deadly attack in Benghazi last year showed military forces were not close enough to assist."
They were close enough to Benghazi, they just didn't get called upon for some reason. A team in Tripoli that was there at the time, that's far closer than this Spanish-based contingent.
Sounds like white house is covering their ass. Funny how this just came out as the Benghazi hearing are going on. Also funny is how the writer is spinning this right down the talking points of the administration.
A little late for some. But to be expected from Barry "Pants On Fire" Obama and his staff.
Oh, so now the US Govt wants to be proactive and mobilize troops. Why didnt they do this during the Bhengazi attacks? Oh thats right, it was during the election cycle. They couldnt afford to save American lives because the egg on their faces and political asperations would have been cooked. Fact! Liberals in power make America Less Safe! If Bush were in office Bhengazi wouldnt have happened the way it did.
I disagree...Bush was just as incompetent, but atbleast the bad guys were afraid of him somitmkept some in check.
Bush never helps your argument. But since you're making the case for liberals being weak on security...who was president on 9/11/01, and who was president on 5/2/11? Hint: not the same one.
This wouldn't happen on bush's watch??? Really? Fact Check before you talk please...
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13333916-number-of-embassies-attacked-during-the-bush-years-before-benghazi-many
speaking the truth. glad someone here isn't an ignorant, pedantic moron
LOL you are twisted. Benghazi was an oversight. No one saw the attack coming. Do you really think the Government (liberal or conservative) would want U.S. personnel dead??? come on man. get reality check here. This is almost as saying Bush sent the troops to Iraq to die (this what happens to U.S. Troops under the conservative rule). don't be a crazy man please..
Yes WJM- Republicans always oppose the U.S. Military. Who is the idiot again?
Your psychological disorder is known as "projection."
I know the republicans don't like this plan and are saying America doesn't have the money for it. Idiots.
youre the idiot. lib.
"lib" is a beautiful word.
responding to DCKeene......
only in your warped mind "lib"
You have it backwards. That's the excuse Hillary used when she cancelled the rapid response team from rescuing Ambassador Stevens and his party.
get a new name you MF Yakobi ID thief
the lowlife repukes won't admit their people being fiscally responsible cut funding for embassy security all over the world. Period, over, DONE.
The infantry is short and needs help every day. What are you pukes doing to fix that? Sit and whine about Benghazi
If you can't rattle those 4 names off the top of your head you don't care, you're just mad cuz you got your butt KICKED in the last election!