Senate panel drops 'Zero Dark Thirty' probe
"Zero Dark Thirty" screen writer Mark Boal and director Kathryn Bigelow
February 26th, 2013
04:38 PM ET

Senate panel drops 'Zero Dark Thirty' probe

By Pam Benson

The Senate Intelligence Committee has dropped its probe of the CIA's contacts with the makers of "Zero Dark Thirty."

The step was taken after the CIA responded to the panel's questions about whether the agency may have contributed to the movie's suggestion that harsh interrogations of a suspected terrorist helped find Osama bin Laden, a congressional aide said.

News of the decision came just one day after the movie was shut out of any significant Academy Awards, a snub many felt came in part because of criticisms, including from members of Congress, that the movie glorified torture.

A bipartisan group of senators expressed concern the CIA may have provided information about the search for the al Qaeda leader that might have "misled" the filmmakers.

Deputy Director Mike Morell and other CIA officers met with movie director Kathryn Bigelow and writer Mark Boal shortly after the May 2011 raid on the Pakistan compound where bin Laden was hiding.

The movie depicts harrowing scenes of a suspected terrorist being interrogated with waterboarding and some of other so-called enhanced interrogation techniques. The suggestion is those techniques helped identify the courier who led the CIA to the compound.

One of the conclusions of a recent four-year study of the CIA's interrogation and detention program by the Intelligence Committee was that the CIA did not learn about the existence of the courier from any terrorist subjected to harsh interrogation.

In a December letter to now Acting Director Morell, Democratic Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Carl Levin along with Republican Sen. John McCain asked the CIA to provide the Intelligence Committee all information and records the CIA, former officials and contractors provided the filmmakers about the raid.

The senators acknowledged at the time that the CIA could not be held responsible for how its activities were depicted in a movie.

"The senators received additional information from the CIA in response to its questions," a congressional aide told CNN. "The committee doesn't plan additional investigations at this point."

The three senators had also sent a letter in December to Sony Pictures Entertainment, the distributors of "Zero Dark Thirty," calling the film "grossly inaccurate and misleading" and asking the studio to publicly state the movie was not based on fact.

In response to the criticism, Bigelow and Boal said the film condenses 10 years of intelligence work into a 2 1/2-hour film.

"We depicted a variety of controversial practices and intelligence methods that were used in the name of finding bin Laden. The film shows that no single method was necessarily responsible for solving the manhunt," their statement said.

"Zero Dark Thirty" was one of the films nominated for best picture at this year's Academy Awards. It lost out to another CIA-related movie, "Argo," the story of the dramatic rescue of six Americans during the Iran hostage crisis that began when the U.S. Embassy in Tehran was seized by demonstrators in 1979.

Some have suggested the negative publicity about "Zero Dark Thirty" effectively nixed its chances of winning the Oscar.

In a separate but related matter, the committee is still waiting for Morell's answers to questions they have about a message he sent to the CIA workforce shortly after the movie was released last year.

Morell stated that enhanced interrogation techniques played a role in finding bin Laden, but they were not as important as the movie implied. "Some came from detainees subjected to enhanced techniques, but there were many other sources as well," Morell said.

The senators asked Morell to provide specific details about what information gathered from harsh interrogations helped find bin Laden.


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  1. Matt

    This movie conveys a clear message that if you kill 3000 innocent people, we will find you and hold you accountable. You can try to hide all you want but you will not get away. This is the fair, just and unambiguous message this movie delivers. And it delivers it very well.

    February 27, 2013 at 10:58 pm | Reply
    • Dennis

      Yes, the Islamists should hear the message loud and clear. No wonder this movie won the sound editing award at the Oscars.

      February 27, 2013 at 11:24 pm | Reply
      • John Geheran

        Gee Dennis, you and your buddy Matt sound like two typical Tea Partying dimwits. This obscene movie only serves to further inflame the right-wing lynch mob mentality already gripping this country. Do you honestly want that that? Well, I do not!

        February 28, 2013 at 11:15 am |
      • Matt

        @ "John Geheran" – I have read your older posts - It is clear that you would always argue that all your Islamist friends and relatives should get away with murder. You are just sad that this terrorist was held accountable. But the whole world is very happy to see justice being served to this Islamic mass murderer.

        February 28, 2013 at 11:30 am |
  2. George Patton-2

    Contrary to American public opinion, there is absolutely no glory in killing people, none at all! It is shameful that these idiots had to make a movie in order to further inflame the right-wing lynch mob mentality already gripping this country!!!

    February 27, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      You nailed it good, George, Thank you.

      February 27, 2013 at 2:33 pm | Reply
    • Reality

      Right, what we should have done was give bin Laden a medal and erected a statue in his honor. After all, he was just involved with mass homicide, terrorism, beheadings, destabilizing national governments and planning & encouraging more – maybe he's just "misunderstood" by us in the west.

      No, he needed killing.

      February 27, 2013 at 5:13 pm | Reply
      • Mavent

        Try not to be an ldiot, if that's possible for you. Nobody is suggesting that we should have turned bin Laden into a hero. Nobody but you, that is.

        February 27, 2013 at 8:10 pm |
    • Matt

      @ George Patton-2 - Sure, there is no glory in killing people. Now, please tell that to all your Islamist friends who danced on the street to celebrate the death of 3000 innocent people on 9/11.

      February 27, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Reply
      • Mavent

        So basically, you're saying we should be no different from the 9/11 terrorists. That's some genius thinking right there, Matt.

        February 27, 2013 at 8:11 pm |
    • Matt

      @ George - You are so confused. Getting rid of a terrorist like Bin Laden saved many lives. There is plenty of glory in saving lives of so many innocent people.

      February 27, 2013 at 11:30 pm | Reply
  3. morgan

    Why waste time and energy on torture?
    Use truth serum or hypnosis.

    February 27, 2013 at 1:39 pm | Reply
  4. Matt

    This movie deserves a medal from the Senate instead of an inquiry.

    February 27, 2013 at 12:58 pm | Reply
    • Joseph McCarthy

      Gee Matt, are you really proud of being stupid or what? Zero Dark Thirty was made for the explicit purpose of glorifying a brutal murder in Pakistan and the wanton torture of our political prisoners in custody! This, nobody should be proud of nor glorify our current heinous foreign policies!

      February 27, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Reply
      • Matt

        On the contrary, the movie reinforces the message that if you kill 3000 people, we will find you and hold you accountable. You can try to hide all you want but you will not get away. This is the fair and just message the movie delivers. And it delivers it very well.

        February 27, 2013 at 6:53 pm |
  5. lottie

    as usual McCain is in the middle of this. That man thinks everything is a conspiracy . Give it a rest.

    February 27, 2013 at 11:11 am | Reply
    • As-if

      Um... it was actually Sen Diane Fienstien that initiated the probe. But keep smoking your dope, and grandma called for you to come down from the attic, your sandwich is ready.

      February 27, 2013 at 12:56 pm | Reply
      • justbecause

        baahaahaa @as-if

        February 27, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
    • BlueAlliance

      Yes, you are right. They destroyed any chance of this film being held in high esteem by the film industry. They achieved their goal of Kathryn Bigelow not being nominated for best directer, nor best picture and have surely affected the box office receipts as well. Sadly, any project that elevates Obama and reminds the public of his sucesses ,will always be struck down by the likes of McCain and his croonies. The hatred by the GOP for Obama has caused the country to recover at a much slower rate, then if Obama's agenda had not been obstructed. The GOP was obviously not ready for a black president, that is the only possible explanation for their continuous abuse of him.....sad for the country.

      February 27, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Reply
    • Jean Sartre

      Neither Cheney no McCain have been accurate about anything that they have said for over 20-years...

      February 27, 2013 at 7:48 pm | Reply
  6. Sly

    Boehner announced today that Republcians have stopped all work on any issues while they begin an investigation into The Wizard of Oz.

    Apparently there are rumors the scarecrow was tortured by large foreign birds.

    February 27, 2013 at 11:02 am | Reply
    • Matt

      Yes, I agree. The Senate should honor the lady for making a great movie.

      February 27, 2013 at 1:11 pm | Reply
  7. Rosslaw

    FBI Director Mueller eventually ordered all FBI personnel to evacuate Gitmo beause of the FBI's conviction that the torture employed was not only illegal but more devastingly caused the permanent loss of intelligence that the "cigarette and emphathy" approach could elicit. The FBI's Ali Soufan (sic) explains how the professionals obtain information without raising a hand. However, the Masters of Disasters in the Shrub administration still insist they were the smartest guys in the room, igonoring all of that laughing from Al Queda.

    February 27, 2013 at 11:01 am | Reply
    • Matt

      A balanced approach is needed. Some may give in to softer methods whereas some may be asking for harsher treatment. These terrorists in Gitmo followed no Geneva convention rules when they aided massacre of 3000+ innocent people. These terrorists are not the kind of people who deserve sympathy. So, use whatever works - softer approach first, or harsher approach if necessary. Make these terrorists sing.

      February 27, 2013 at 1:05 pm | Reply
  8. michaelfury

    Maybe the SIC should stop watching movies and follow this money:

    http://pulverizedtonearpower.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/pulverized-to-near-power/

    February 27, 2013 at 7:43 am | Reply
  9. secrtsqurl

    This inquiry was just another idiotic Republican waste of time and money. They pulled the same move with Benghazi. Just a witch hunt with ni witches. Morons.

    February 27, 2013 at 4:20 am | Reply
    • scottrockwerk@yahoo.com

      Your an idiot this was a bipartiasan investigation did you even read it? "Democratic Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Carl Levin along with Republican Sen. John McCain asked the CIA to provide the Intelligence Committee all information" since when did Frinstein becom a repub?

      February 27, 2013 at 6:48 am | Reply
    • CJB

      You are obviously a low information voter who is blindly following this administration. Prob a racist as well. If you knew anything, you would know that the dems are on their way out in 2014.

      February 27, 2013 at 10:47 am | Reply
      • Stu in Iowa

        By both of your sentence structures and inane comments I think the term low information voter applies to Scott and CJB.

        February 27, 2013 at 11:56 am |
  10. arch

    This woman director needs to try doing other films that don't include war! If she likes it so much, then go over and stay for a while! If it weren't for her having been married to the other bimbo Cameron, she would be some PA for a movie company!

    February 27, 2013 at 3:29 am | Reply
    • Matt

      She is really good at it. She makes movies on topics which others do not consider financially viable. She makes excellent movies on important topics and makes good movies which a lot of people want to watch. Her efforts are excellent, and intention is commendable. Excellent movie.

      February 27, 2013 at 1:09 pm | Reply
  11. VVVV

    Admitting torture works is one of those things that they will never admit to, like some races are on average smarter than the other. We all know it's true but you'll never hear it. They wouldn't have started a Senate probe unless the secret got out that torture actually did lead to something.

    I'm not saying that I approve of it, or that it really happened. I'm just saying I don't trust what our government says regarding this.

    February 27, 2013 at 12:58 am | Reply
    • Barry Shanley

      Please be clear VVV. Who is "they" to whom you refer who will never "admit" that some "races are on average smarter than others". Are YOU actually trying to suggest that such a ridiculous and bigoted-sounding, (at the least), theory could actually be true?

      February 27, 2013 at 3:05 am | Reply
      • VVVV

        Science shows this the case through numerous tests and from a evolutionary standpoint it would be impossible for us to be the same, because intelligence is highly linked to heredity. Most people realize there are differences but feel that it is not best to talk about it.

        I expect our government doesn't want the secret to get out that torture worked because like myself, they don't want our country going down that dark path. So they keep it secret.

        February 27, 2013 at 10:42 am |
    • Bob

      Yeh, what Barry said

      February 27, 2013 at 4:35 am | Reply
  12. Reticuli

    The film didn't even accurately depict the two main gals, both of which were among the "b--es of Alec Station" that refused to work with NY FBI agent John O'Neill because he'd left his wife. The scene where the older gal recommends that the main character have a fling at the office was truly hilarious. Did Bigelow have any clue how religious and up-tight that deceased CIA analyst was? The torture scenes were bogus. The scene at Area 51 was bogus. How they talked about the stealth hardware was bogus. The first two thirds of the film is shot like a TV procedural, complete with bad miking of the actors, leaving you with garbled, jumbled, room-reverb laced mumbo jumbo that I knew sitting in the theater I was the only one who understood what they were talking about.

    February 26, 2013 at 10:29 pm | Reply
    • Brandt

      Hmm Area 51 you are very Naive I bet you have never served a day in the military have you? And you never have been to GTMO? I am not saying the movie is true but I can tell with personal experience what they were and were not allowed to show.

      February 27, 2013 at 1:41 am | Reply
      • Johnny Rocker

        Oh, do tell?! I especially want to hear about that time you scored three touchdowns during the weekly touch football game. U military types are all the same – everyone shot bin laden, nobody was just in it for the GI bill.

        February 27, 2013 at 7:06 am |
  13. Joe citizen abroad

    Anyone who says the movie glorified torture either didn't watch the film. or they are a raving lunatic. The central premise of the film is that NOTHING...NO PROGRESS was made for the ten years they used torture. The only really useful information came from a civilized interview they conducted with a detainee over cigarettes and a meal...using a bluff. The whole point of the movie is that we were going about it all wrong for ten years. Honestly, I don't know what some of these moronic congressmen are smoking.

    February 26, 2013 at 10:14 pm | Reply
    • Brandt

      In 10 years I'll tell you the truth.

      February 27, 2013 at 1:42 am | Reply
  14. Smokey

    Absolutely did not "glorify torture." Torture happened, that was a reality. Probably it is still happening now. The movie showed it, showed it with no value judgment pro or con. Zero Dark Thirty was a perfect mirror, it reflects what the viewer's own thoughts are without introducing its own. It just shows a story, does not advance any viewpoint or opinion. I absolutely loved this movie, by far the best of the last few years and best ever movie about the war on terror. It really makes you think, it's the farthest thing from propaganda imaginable.

    February 26, 2013 at 9:26 pm | Reply
    • Justin

      @ smokey

      Very well said.

      February 26, 2013 at 9:38 pm | Reply
    • ZQ

      Your comments show that you've been misled and that is sort of the point of the Senators concern.

      February 26, 2013 at 9:47 pm | Reply
    • Conner

      @Smokey

      Well said. The movie depicts the reality of the hunt. There is no denying torture was used to some degree – there is also a likelihood that it led to some sort of intelligence that may have led to the capture of OBL; however, this is besides the point. The movie subtly takes a stance that questions the ambiguous moral grounds of the ENTIRE manhunt for OBL, including the torture. Just because it may have worked to some degree, doesn't mean it's morally right. It's otherwise silly and unseemly to try to sweep our transgressions under a rug.

      February 26, 2013 at 10:26 pm | Reply
      • Smokey

        That's what I was thinking as well. The climax of this movie is stormtroopers terrorizing women and children and killing an unarmed man in his home. It's the viewer who brings their knowledge of 9.11, of who bin Laden was, of the war on terror into that scene and makes those men into heroes, and the victims into villains. To someone entering the theater with no preconceptions or knowledge of the events these past two decades it'd be a completely different movie. It's that disconnect between the heroic narrative I have in my head, and the horribly objective way the events on the screen were shown, that made it such a powerful movie for me.

        February 27, 2013 at 2:25 am |
      • Barry Shanley

        The academy ignored an accurate movie, ZERO DARK THIRTY, and awarded a wildly exaggerated, dishonest, and inflammatory movie. ARGO, that glorified Hollywood while denigrating an entire culture with the use of antiquated stereotypes. That ARGO won best picture and best screenplay may be okay in Hollywood's eyes, but art has an obligation which was woefully abused. LINCOLN was the masterpiece that contributed to society timely value and worth.

        February 27, 2013 at 3:10 am |
    • Reticuli

      They didn't do anything remotely like that. And when they did things we would consider illegal, there were a lot of people around, cameras, and even medical personnel. The film tried to make it look like it was some small-scale thing. Every time they wanted to just slap someone they had to get written approval. This is the US government we're talking about, trying to something "official", not rogue operatives. The really bad stuff that resulted in deaths were carried out in U.S. military prisons, particularly in Afganistan, by personnel not given permission to even stike them, let alone beat someone to death.

      February 26, 2013 at 10:27 pm | Reply
      • Sabre 1 Warfighters

        Oh really, were you there to verify all of this? Didnt think so.

        February 27, 2013 at 1:27 am |
      • Brandt

        This man cannot verify that because for one thing he does not have a TS and I can tell has never been to GTMO.

        February 27, 2013 at 1:44 am |
      • OO7°``

        You are a profound ret @rd.

        February 27, 2013 at 10:22 am |
    • OO7°``

      I quite agree with you. And I love the picture.

      February 27, 2013 at 10:18 am | Reply
  15. Hugh Mann

    Wingers are real paranoia, Man

    February 26, 2013 at 9:22 pm | Reply
  16. actionadventure

    Bottom line is enhanced interrogation was started at a time when there was evidence that Al Qaeda had a chemical and nuclear program of some sorts and government had little visibility into what actually Al Qaeda had. Government had one person in custody who had stopped talking. He started talking again after enhanced interrogation. It is reasonable to rough up a few murders in order to save innocent lives in my book. This nonsense that enhanced interrogation was not of use is just self righteous naivete of the uninformed. BTW. More journalists have been water boarded in order to improve their reporting than the CIA ever water boarded. Another interesting fact us military personnel get water boarded as part of escape training routinely. It is beyond me why such concern and need to molly coddle mass murderers that want to destroy america but no issue whatsoever when that same technique is used on our own soldiers

    February 26, 2013 at 9:05 pm | Reply
    • Beatrix Kiddo

      Yep, that's the patriotic way to protect America, by becoming as evil as our enemies! If we have to act like terrorists to win the war on terror, then they've already beaten us.

      February 27, 2013 at 12:53 am | Reply
      • 31stada

        You are extremely naive. Torture has been used to extract information for as long as there has been wars. It works, which is why its used. There are many different types and we "admittedly" use some of the least gruesome. And just to rile up the tree huggers, yes, I condone uses of some torture in some instances. If water boarding someone of interest to extract information that will help save more American lives, so be it. Compared to some of what happens on a frontline in combat, its not nearly as bad. But of course, most of you will hide your head in the sand and crucify anyone that has any other mindset than your own. Even to the point of disrespecting those individuals that have fought to extend your freedom to spew forth discontent. Cant have the freedoms you love to exercise without those who are willing to defend those rights.
        Does it matter what a MOVIE depicts???? The only reason that anyone has anything to say about it is because it brings up morality issues within people where they are at odds with what they unadmittedly see working but dont have the balls to actually go against the political correctness of saying so. So instead, just jump on the badwagon and try to use cliches by saying "if we use it, were not better than the 'bad guys'", "theyve already won" in order to give themselves justification for it. To be as squeaky clean as you tree hugging, fairy loving, go green douchbags want America to be, we would be FAR worse off than we are or have ever been. Oh, and go ahead and say what you would like to say, comment to your bleeding hearts desire. If you are offended, then good! You should be. Because I am offended by you. Do something other than just spewing off your rhetoric, to improve this country.

        February 27, 2013 at 8:15 am |
      • franklovesfl

        So you think that even though we are alive and free and they are dead and buried they won and we lost? Ok - you go ahead and choose to 'win'. Enjoy your grave. Just don't think you can take my family with you.

        February 27, 2013 at 10:14 am |
    • Stu in Iowa

      Boy I'd sure love to hear all your evidence that 1. Al Qaeda had a chemical and nuclear program of some sorts and 2. Our government had one person in custody who had stopped talking and started talking again after enhanced interrogation. I suppose they could have had access to depleted plutonium shells but that's a stretch to call it a nuclear program.

      February 27, 2013 at 12:12 pm | Reply
      • The Hat of the Three-Toed Man-Baby

        That's depleted uranium, you moron.

        February 27, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
  17. cincpac306

    Really? Wasted time in the Senate???? Making a hude amount of noise and then backing down and doing what they said they would not??? Imagine my surprise.

    February 26, 2013 at 8:55 pm | Reply
  18. McBob79

    The leaderless Senate wasting more tax payer dollars.

    February 26, 2013 at 8:48 pm | Reply
  19. George Patton

    The movie is not complete, the producers/directors have failed to show the most hilarious part of whole OBL episode, when these though guys peed in their paints and started singing like a cannery during interrogation.

    February 26, 2013 at 8:46 pm | Reply
    • peridot2

      'like a cannery'? Do you mean like a canary, a small yellow songbird of which only the male will sing to his mate and mark his territory?

      February 27, 2013 at 11:00 pm | Reply
  20. TheWineDon

    Why do certain people (the producers) get special CIA access on so called top secret raids that are own media does not get?

    February 26, 2013 at 8:41 pm | Reply
  21. Jimh77

    Does anyone really care what Congress has to say about anything any more? They are just a bunch of old folks stealing our lives and creating a society to really gat pi ssed and start another revolution. They all need to be in prison. Lying corrupt individuals that belong in prison.

    February 26, 2013 at 8:31 pm | Reply
  22. Kahuna

    Now they should make a movie about the CIA and the 1952 election of the Shah of Iran. How the CIA threw the entire election and got a pro-West dictator into power so we could get cheap oil. It ties perfectly into the other two movies. If the CIA hadn't thrown the election, there would not have been the intense hatred of the USA and the Iran hostage crisis would never have occurred.

    February 26, 2013 at 8:31 pm | Reply
    • Master_of_Sparks

      MayBe

      February 26, 2013 at 11:15 pm | Reply
  23. Matt

    The confusing thing about this is that the movie showed torture as utterly failing. They never get anything useful until they stop doing it and adopt other interigation methods. It's not exactly subtle either, they would need a flashing "Torture doesn't work and is bad" sign to make it more obvious.

    February 26, 2013 at 8:25 pm | Reply
    • CK

      I think it was more ambiguous than that. **Spoilers** Although they didn't get Kuwaiti's name until they stopped torturing, they used a ruse, that he gave up information that stopped an attack, while being tortured and he forgot (due to short term memory loss because of his treatment). Also, Mark threatened him subtly with more torture when he was reluctant to give the name.

      February 26, 2013 at 8:51 pm | Reply
  24. Jan

    I found the torture scenes confusing and disconnected. The plot didn't start to move until the last hour. That's probably why the movie lost out of the awards.

    February 26, 2013 at 8:13 pm | Reply
    • konk

      'Not sure if we saw the same movie Jan... Bin Laden had been in hiding; they needed to find him by use of interrogations / water boarding and bribery at one point. When they obtained credible info, the plan to find and kill him went into effect. I guess you could have just walked into the theater when the choppers took off to go after him and skipped the "plotless part". Cheers!

      February 26, 2013 at 9:12 pm | Reply
  25. Jan

    I found the torture scenes confusing and disconnected. The movie didn't start to move until the last hour. That's undoubtedly why Bigelow, et al, lost.

    February 26, 2013 at 8:11 pm | Reply
    • Bowser

      I found the final hour to be the least interesting. One CIA analyst refusing to give up was the strength of this film. Then the administration takes all the credit for their search for Bin Laden when, at least according to this film, the administration continuously hampered the search.

      February 27, 2013 at 10:40 am | Reply
  26. Justin

    Torture has existed for about as long as man kind has tried to keep secrets. It doesn't continue to exist because it doesn't work. Im not argueing right or wrong, but simply that torture works. The misconception is confusing it with torturing someone who does not have information to give. No amount of torture will allow someone to spill on knowledge they do not know.

    One last point, anyone that thinks waterboarding, sleep deprevation, and noise is "torture" really need see what real torture is.

    February 26, 2013 at 8:01 pm | Reply
    • motorfirebox

      Right, and the multiple studies, over the past fifty-plus years, by multiple organizations in multiple countries–including military and intelligence groups–that have found torture to be useless in the pursuit of reliable information? Psh, they were all just a bunch of softie libs who don't understand how the real world works.

      February 26, 2013 at 11:35 pm | Reply
      • dvlsadvct

        And yet they keep using it... tells you something about the confidence those people have in their own studies. Dummy.

        February 27, 2013 at 1:22 am |
  27. Stevelb1

    Good movie.

    February 26, 2013 at 8:00 pm | Reply
  28. Uncanny32

    So Kathryn Bigelow has the courage of her artistic vision and the Hollywood PC police snub her. Now the probe has been dropped. It all smacks of political intrigue a la Machiavelli.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:59 pm | Reply
  29. don

    There guys have way more serious issues to address then a stupid movie. Get a grip.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:56 pm | Reply
    • Richard

      You've obviously never heard Harry Reid speak. He is clueless and his stellar leadership of the Senate has failed to even propose a Budget in 4 years. Yes... he much more important things to do. He just isn't doing them.

      February 26, 2013 at 9:32 pm | Reply
  30. BigGuyWithABigDrone

    I loved this lovie.Never have I been more proud to be an American,knowing this terrible muslim was killed!!!

    Also,I SUPPORT torture and drone-strikes

    February 26, 2013 at 7:47 pm | Reply
  31. jack

    real life, the public cannot handle the truth and should not have to. That type of stress and choices should be only by a select few and they have to live with it forever. Sad but true. If you are the greatest spy no one will ever know you or what you have ever accomphlished for their welfare. End of story.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:45 pm | Reply
    • Libacryte

      Truer words have never been spoken.

      The things that go on to protect this country would render most of the sheeple speechless to the point of balling up into a fetal position.

      February 26, 2013 at 9:17 pm | Reply
      • Clandestine_Worker

        Unfortunately, most of America thinks this movie is 100% true!

        February 26, 2013 at 9:49 pm |
      • Bob

        such bs.
        I guess that's why 'we sleep soundly at night'
        Right?

        February 27, 2013 at 4:44 am |
  32. Tim Priddy

    The movie really wasn't that well made. I found it boring.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:42 pm | Reply
  33. Libacryte

    Hmmmm, could it be that the probe was "dropped" because emperor feinstein et al realized that it would be made public that the CIA did indeed use "enhanced interrogation techniques" (ie, so-called "torture") and that's a dirty lil secret they don't want the dumbed-down general public to know, as they feel they "can't handle the truth"

    February 26, 2013 at 7:39 pm | Reply
    • Stu in Iowa

      It could be that the Easter Bunny hitches a ride in Santa's pants too. Sorry but I'm making my best attempt at an equally ridiculous and untrue statement.

      February 27, 2013 at 2:29 pm | Reply
  34. Big_D

    So much for the right wing idiots that defend torture:"One of the conclusions of a recent four-year study of the CIA's interrogation and detention program by the Intelligence Committee was that the CIA did not learn about the existence of the courier from any terrorist subjected to harsh interrogation."

    February 26, 2013 at 7:34 pm | Reply
    • Richard

      Too bad. We water boarded. Get over it. The "terrorists" cut off the heads of their captives. I don't see you complaining about that.

      February 26, 2013 at 9:34 pm | Reply
  35. jack

    Took 20 years for truth of ARgo to come out. Do you expect anything less with Bin Ladin. CIA never gets any credit for anything only discredit for when they fail. They are the core of US intelligence not the stupid congress we have. Need to know still applies to secret intel. How at this time can you trust to give any vital info to members of congress as they only use everything for their own benefit not America.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:33 pm | Reply
  36. Belseth

    So conservative Republicans wasted more time and money trying to damage Obama over nothing! Out of all these hissy fits have they EVER found anything damaging? So far they are batting zero but they have wasted millions of your and my dollars! It's like White Water all over again. In that case they wasted tens of millions and couldn't find a single thing to charge the Clintons with. This is a pattern with them, spend government money to attack Democrats. They're still trying to find dirt on Hillary with tax payer money in case she runs for President.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:32 pm | Reply
    • Andrew

      Bipartisan equals conservative republican now... noted

      February 26, 2013 at 8:06 pm | Reply
  37. nytww

    Are liberals really so stupid that they can't tell the difference between the movies and real life?

    February 26, 2013 at 7:31 pm | Reply
    • Big_D

      The idiots are on the right, they think torture works.

      February 26, 2013 at 7:36 pm | Reply
      • ipeeondeadliberals

        real torture is reading your stupid eff'ng leftist comments.

        February 26, 2013 at 8:16 pm |
      • Stu in Iowa

        Real torture is the fact that 'people' like ipeeondeadliberals get to vote in this country.

        February 27, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
  38. massoud

    I would like to give Zero Dark Thirty The Award for Propaganda film of the year. The North Koreans were a close second but their production studios are lacking in comparison to Hollywierds.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:29 pm | Reply
  39. Beatrix Kiddo

    "... the CIA did not learn about the existence of the courier from any terrorist subjected to harsh interrogation."

    So when we illegally torture people, we now give it the polite name "harsh interrogation"?

    February 26, 2013 at 7:27 pm | Reply
    • sojourner

      "enhanced" interrogation is phrase used by the neocon artists.

      February 26, 2013 at 7:43 pm | Reply
  40. R Blake

    The problem is that some gullible folks will see this movie and believe the propaganda that torture was helpful in finding and killing Bin Laden when the clear evidence is that it was not.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:27 pm | Reply
    • BigGuyWithABigDrone

      prove it

      February 26, 2013 at 7:54 pm | Reply
  41. VoiceOfReason

    I enjoyed Zero Dark Thirty more than ANY of the Oscar nominees I saw, which was most of them. "Argo f*** yourself!"

    February 26, 2013 at 7:25 pm | Reply
    • Joseph McCarthy

      Will you kindly cut that Tea Party lingo out, VoiceOfReason? It has no place here like I said more than 100 times already!

      February 27, 2013 at 2:19 pm | Reply
  42. Ben Edwards

    It really wasn't that good of a movie anyway.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:24 pm | Reply
  43. secrtsqurl

    Of course the torture worked. Look at McCain, it turned him into the most bitter anti-american of all time. He does more damage to the US than any foreign terrorist could.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:23 pm | Reply
    • Bostontola

      You sound pretty bitter yourself.

      February 26, 2013 at 7:31 pm | Reply
      • Big_D

        They probably are represented by McCain.

        February 26, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
      • peridot2

        The lowest form of attack is turning it back on another, Bostontola. Lame.

        February 28, 2013 at 10:39 am |
  44. Dr. Nick

    All this means is it did not win an academy award so no more publicity can be gain by attacking it....our government is foolish and wastful beyond comprehension

    February 26, 2013 at 7:19 pm | Reply
  45. butreallythough

    All this really proves is that the cia were in collusion with hollywood to create a film that convinces us that they found and killed bin laden, which is probably not true, we all know there was torture, this is ridiculous

    February 26, 2013 at 7:16 pm | Reply
  46. Freddy Foulup

    "Bohdi, I... am... an FBI agent!" There was more reality in Point Break.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:14 pm | Reply
  47. oldleftcoastdude

    It will still make a bunch of money, regardless of whether or not it was shut out of the Oscars. As for the "Harrowing" torture scene; well I've seen worse just across the border in Mexico.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:13 pm | Reply
    • OO7°``

      CSPAN can be torture as well.

      February 27, 2013 at 10:45 am | Reply
  48. us_1776

    ZDT wasn't even good fiction.

    .

    February 26, 2013 at 7:12 pm | Reply
    • OO7°``

      Back to your cartoons junior.

      February 27, 2013 at 10:44 am | Reply
  49. JoJo

    Whether something is wrong and whether we should do it, depends entirely on whether it "works". It's good to see America is still a "Christian" country.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:11 pm | Reply
    • us_1776

      Was a Christian country.

      Christian churches are filled with more perverts and deviants than anywhere else on the planet.

      .

      February 26, 2013 at 7:17 pm | Reply
      • Bob

        deviant from what

        February 27, 2013 at 4:47 am |
  50. Harvesting

    So the irony of Argo winning and having no factual basis or even mentioning the Canadians, wins an oscar. Yet Zero Dark 30 does not even get a nod because of politics? I now understand why the oscars suck and have been loosing ratings.
    "The decision came just one day after the movie was shut out of any significant Academy Awards, a snub many felt came in part because of criticisms, including from members of Congress, that the movie glorified torture."

    February 26, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Reply
  51. Joseph McCarthy

    I wonder just how much the Senate panel was paid to drop this probe of the C.I.A. This smells like another government cover up. Then again, Washington is riddled with corruption these days!

    February 26, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Reply
    • OO7°``

      The payment was from CIA and was funded by ordering the MPAAS to not award ZDT the best picture Oscar or any other significant award.

      February 27, 2013 at 10:43 am | Reply
  52. nik green

    This movie is based on single sourced, unverified propaganda, and material with no reliable chains of custody. This is an exercise in mass psychological manipulation, pandering to Americans' comfort zones, and replacing history and reality with infantile gibberish and journalistic baby-formula. A pox on the whole wretched project, regardless of how well directed, or acted it was.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:09 pm | Reply
    • R Blake

      Right on!

      February 26, 2013 at 7:25 pm | Reply
    • SFCMTB

      ...while your comments are based on completely objective points of view, significant research, and too much time spent with a thesaurus. To pretend that you know what is required or truly happens on operations like this one is absolutely insane, regardless of how well-crafted your monologue is.

      February 26, 2013 at 9:55 pm | Reply
      • OO7°``

        "too much time spent with a thesaurus"

        I am glad I am not the only one that caught that.

        February 27, 2013 at 10:34 am |
    • Sly

      Ha ha ha .. that is funny.

      I just toured Universal Studios in Hollywood. Good rides.

      Guess what folks? I found out that movies are not real. You'd be surprised: they even have 'fake' sets with fake buildings and fake cars.

      Most of you, especially Nik here, may be surprised to learn that even the Simpsons ride was not real. Seriously – Homer Simpson is not real. They call it ... hmmm, what was it? "Entertainment". ZDT sure was entertaining to me.

      February 27, 2013 at 11:15 am | Reply
  53. empresstrudy

    Hopefully Bigelow will be given a full time official White House job in the Ministry of Information. Our own Leni Reifenstahl.

    February 26, 2013 at 7:01 pm | Reply
  54. Mark

    If Argo is allowed to be woefully inaccurate about historical events while pretending to be "based on a true story," why can't Zero Dark Thirty?

    February 26, 2013 at 6:57 pm | Reply
    • OO7°``

      Because Argo (which I loved) portrayed Hollywood and CIA in a good way while ZDT (which I loved more) portrayed CIA and the Administration in a negative light. ZDT was probably closer to true life than Argo. ZDT barely picked up an award because the Senator's shut it down.

      February 27, 2013 at 10:32 am | Reply
  55. 1371usmc

    Who cares????? Now shut up and get to work.

    February 26, 2013 at 5:15 pm | Reply

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