U.S. may remove all troops from Afghanistan after 2014
A cloud of dust rises from an Afghan road after US troops destroy an IED in their path. (Getty Images photo)
January 8th, 2013
07:54 PM ET

U.S. may remove all troops from Afghanistan after 2014

By Mike Mount

The Obama administration is considering the possibility of removing all U.S. troops in Afghanistan after the NATO combat mission officially finishes at the end of 2014, White House officials said Tuesday.

The comments by Ben Rhodes, the White House's deputy national security adviser, come as the Pentagon and White House mull over the number of troops that could be left in Afghanistan after 2014 to fight insurgents and train Afghan security forces.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai and President Obama are scheduled to meet on Friday in Washington.

Rhodes said the administration is considering a range of options, with one scenario having no U.S. troops there. The range, according to defense officials, had until recently been between 6,000 to 15,000 U.S. troops possibly remaining in the country, based on an assessment by the U.S. top commander in Afghanistan, Gen. John Allen.

"We have an objective of making sure there's no safe haven for al Qaeda within Afghanistan and making sure that the Afghan government has a security force that is sufficient, again, to assure the stability of the Afghan government and the denial of that safe haven," Rhodes said.

"That's what causes us to look for different potential troop numbers or not having potential troops in the country," he continued.

With Afghan president's visit, nations' post-2014 future takes shape

Rhodes said there were no expectations on any deal on post-2014 troop levels during the Karzai visit, and he said it could be months before any decision was made.

The White House remains committed to ensuring Afghanistan does not return to its status as a safe haven for Al Qaeda, Rhodes said

"The president does not view these negotiations as having a goal of keeping U.S. troops in Afghanistan," he said. "And we're guided by the shared missions that we've agreed to with the Afghans, the training and equipping of their forces, and counterterrorism."

But the United States also is insistent on legal protection for any troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

If there is no agreement on that between the United States and Karzai between now and the end of 2014, then it could lead to a similar situation for the United States when it left Iraq.

U.S. likely to keep thousands of troops in Afghanistan after NATO forces leave

The refusal by the Iraq government to extend legal protections for U.S. troops after the end of the war in Iraq was a major reason the United States left the country with no residual military training force.

But Karzai has said he would like for U.S. troops to remain after the end of the NATO mission. He also has been highly critical of the troops over the years, following incidents in which U.S. forces have killed civilians.

U.S. defense officials are playing a wait-and-see game on what the Karzai visit will produce.

As one defense official told CNN on Monday about the Afghan president, "It's Karzai; who knows what he will want on any given day."

What does the future hold for Afghanistan?

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  1. GamerGuy

    It's about time to get them out of there, we have been over there long enough. Let them fight their own battles, we need to recover and get rid of some of this debt and we can't do that if we're wasting money on another country.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:45 am | Reply
    • Jay

      Nobody invited us there...cowboy !!!

      January 9, 2013 at 8:49 am | Reply
    • Hank l

      We now need to focus on India. The American invasion of Afghanistan brought to the forefront the irrelevance of India as a nation. With a population of over 1.2 billion people there was no value that this nation could bring to the table. Their soldiers (ragtag) 1.2 million continue hiding in the trenches scared from Talibans. A few teenage Talibans invaded the country and held it hostage for days on end showing how useless India is. It was embarrasing for the world to observe this humiliation of a nation that was being touted as a regional power.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:53 am | Reply
      • AM

        Ha Ha!!! We need to focus on India??? Are you a lunatic? Let the Indians focus on India! This type of mentality is what will ruin America! Why don't we focus on China, Russia, Iran, India, Pakistan... Let's get the draft back and just conscript every man between the age of 16 and 50 and ship 'em all out to fight the entire world? Oh, that's a stupid idea, and so is yours...

        January 9, 2013 at 9:50 am |
    • bibi your master

      We're not done with you stupid AMericans yet. We're going to keep you in the middle east until you're all used up.

      We're going to drill you dumb animals in the butt like we do to John Travolta.

      Yipppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

      January 9, 2013 at 11:10 pm | Reply
  2. Elliotu

    Why should more people die. Lets get out of there.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:45 am | Reply
  3. Jeremy Ellis

    Since 2001, the U.S. has given approximately $52 billion dollars in federal aid. Will that stop too?

    Source: Congressional Research Service
    7-5700
    http://www.crs.gov
    R40699

    January 9, 2013 at 8:40 am | Reply
    • G_Edwards

      Of course not. "We don't have a spending problem."

      .

      January 9, 2013 at 8:42 am | Reply
      • Dennis

        We didn't have a spending problem under the previous administration either.

        January 9, 2013 at 8:59 am |
  4. The Other Bob

    And had he abruptly and chaotically pulled our troops out to meet this timeline, regardless of what had been transpiring, you and the rest of you irrational Obama-haters would be taking him to task for it. So your criticism is empty.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:39 am | Reply
    • The Other Bob

      That was directed at G_Edwards. It somehow ended up as a freestanding comment.-

      January 9, 2013 at 8:46 am | Reply
    • G_Edwards

      My criticism is of Keith, who lied when he wrote: "And they did leave Iraq when they were supposed to."

      .

      January 9, 2013 at 9:45 pm | Reply
  5. hitman

    Can't blame Bush for this debacle Obama and libs!!! Heh,heh!!

    January 9, 2013 at 8:35 am | Reply
    • Fsjunkie

      Not sure how you've rationalized that position. Everything that has happened since we invaded Afghanistan has led to the situation as it stands today...including the 8 years that we turned our backs on Afghanistan to raid Iraq for oil. President Obama can leave this place at any time since getting the only symbol of success out of the deal...Osama Bin Laden and dozens of operatives...not to mention more clarity with respect to our position with Pakistan, who was playing Bush like a fiddle before Obama kicked their teeth in. Get real, Hitman.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:43 am | Reply
    • Norm

      Sure we can.
      Just because you can't handle the truth or don't have the IQ to understand it, doesn't change history.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:43 am | Reply
    • Dennis

      Then let's blame you and your conservative minions.

      January 9, 2013 at 9:06 am | Reply
    • Kevin H

      I am always amazed at our capacity as americans to make mistakes together and then fail to work on solutions together. And nobody seems to even want a solution until the other side admits they were wrong. If personal relationships worked the way politics do in this country...there would be no marriages...no friendships.....probably no country...

      January 9, 2013 at 1:10 pm | Reply
  6. Anon

    Karzai is playing us like a fiddle, just like Nguyen Van Thieu did in Vietnam.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:35 am | Reply
  7. Fsjunkie

    The only thing even keeping consideration for any troops remaining in Afghanistan is the 100 percent guarantee that Al Qaeda and the Taliban will come back out and run rampant when we leave. We've built facilities and infrastructure to support our operations that they will move into and be more equipped than they were before we got there, We need to just rig explosives on every building and pipeline that we laid down and walk away.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:35 am | Reply
  8. G_Edwards

    Why not immediately? Why the delay? What will change between now and 2014?

    What will be gained by having more troops killed and wounded?

    .

    January 9, 2013 at 8:34 am | Reply
  9. hey

    AFTER 2014? what kind of fraud is O bom ber peddeling now? that could be any year after 2014!

    nothing short of immediate total withdrawal and compensation for reconstruction will help him to escape his conviction for war crimes. justice will be done sooner than he hopes.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:32 am | Reply
  10. Odinson

    Like Eddie Murhy said in Trading Places: "Get the F@#$ OUT!!!"

    January 9, 2013 at 8:32 am | Reply
  11. Alex

    My fellow Americans,
    Go read some books.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:29 am | Reply
    • hey

      start with "Open Veins of Latin America" by Eduardo Galiano the Great.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:53 am | Reply
  12. caesarbc

    It's about time. That was a ratt's nest since we started. Some people in a cave planned an attack, and that justifies how many deaths now??? B.S! Come home, only time can heal now. Just now after 50 years, can veterans visit Vietnam to get rid of their demons. Time heals... not bombs.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:24 am | Reply
  13. al

    Do what your little feeble brain wants to do Mr. President. You only have 4 years to finish destroying America. Then maybe your followers will finally see what a liar you are.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:23 am | Reply
    • freedom

      We all know that unless the CIA can somehow protect its poppy fields without the US army, we wont be leaving Afghanistan any time soon.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:30 am | Reply
    • sherman

      oh I agree our destruction is the goal – but its not a one admin task, after all... we are tough. poppies... to explode things or not to explode things...that is the question. will we ever be able to rid the planet of things that go boom? if not then replacing the poppies with pot is our only option, because as a species we ain't gonna make it, and partying is our only option – and poppies are not a party drug.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:50 am | Reply
  14. noname

    ya'll are so ignorant unlike vietnam afghanistan is where the taliban is its not like we are fighting a civial war we are here because of 9/11 this is a war on terror so i could care less if we pull out or stay but this war is not Vietnam and if you are smart you would not just say a word like that without showing respect to the men and women who put they lifes on the line cause the way ya'll saying it is disrespectful.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:21 am | Reply
    • hey

      i owe no respect to no f$%^ing killers hired by no f$%^king thieves and liars.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:36 am | Reply
      • Chuck Wagner

        Okay Michael Moore.

        January 9, 2013 at 8:39 am |
    • sherman

      if this is a war on terror can a sell you a DC map?

      January 9, 2013 at 8:52 am | Reply
  15. Esog

    We "may" pull out. And it "may" be after 2014. In other words, it's going to go on and on. Wasting lives and money for nothing. But the government is happy to charge all of us for it.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:20 am | Reply
    • Chuck Wagner

      Well Duh. And you probably think we are completely out of Iraq.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:28 am | Reply
  16. Mo Montana

    WE SALUTE YOU, PAKISTAN......The Americans acknowledge the innumerable sacrifices made by Pakistanis in this ongoing war. The Americans appreciate the bullets taken on the chest by the Pakistanis in fighting the enemy. The Americans appreciate the ultimate sacrifices made by Pakistanis in sacrificing their lives while trying to make America and the world safe.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:20 am | Reply
    • JM

      This has to be sarcasm.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:37 am | Reply
    • hey

      bull$%^ting from tel aviv.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:37 am | Reply
    • Jerrod

      Thank you Pakistan for helping us over the years. Thank you for winning the Vietnam war for us by defeating the Soviets in Afghanistan, We are forever grateful.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:47 am | Reply
  17. bo lies

    Why not pull them out now?

    January 9, 2013 at 8:17 am | Reply
  18. krm1007 © ™

    Let's not kid ourselves. We had to invade Afghanistan to save our pride and to show the world that we had the financing and forbearance to fight this war on ground chasing the shadows. But ego aside, we all know that winning the endeavors in Afghanistan is not possible without Pakistan. Yes, we have cajoled Pakistan over the years, threatened them, poor boyed them, played the neighbor against them, let the congressional dogs lose doing the god guy – bad guy routine and done the carrot – stick dance. All to no avail. We tried partnering with India in Afghanistan and that has been a disaster. We may have won a battle or two but are on the verge of losing the war. We have hit a wall.

    The time has now come to do the tango with Pakistan. That takes boldness and a desire to commit one self. And that is what we need to do. We need to form a strategic partnership with Pakistan...a long term alliance...and a commitment. We need to lay the cards on the table and not pull the rug from under them. At the same time we need to make them understand the consequences of going wayward on us. We need to evolve a common vision...and common grounds for constructive engagement. We then need to support them and then let them implement the common vision in the region under our supervision. After all, they can do it more productively, efficiently and economically than we can. That is for sure... a lesson we have learned the hard way.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:15 am | Reply
    • Alex

      Are you crazy?

      We funneled hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars into pakistan's ISI(The Pakistani CIA equivalent) to fight the Russians and then to stop civil war. We did this for DECADES.

      Those "Terror Camps" ran by Al-Qaida were mirrors of LARGER camps ran by Pakistan to train mostly foreign Islamic radicals.

      Osama and his cronies were trained and outfitted through money from Pakistan.

      Pakistan is PART OF THE PROBLEM. And, sadly, so are we.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:26 am | Reply
      • Chuck C

        PAKISTAN !!!!

        THANK YOU …. THANK YOU…. THANK YOU!!!!

        FOR MAKING USA SAFE FOR MAKING THE WORLD SAFE>>>>>>>>>>>>

        Since Sep 11, 2001, over 200,000 Pakistani civilians, armed forces personnel have either sacrificed their lives or wounded; more than 3.5 million have been displaced while the country has lost over US $ 1 Trillion due to terrorism.

        Despite sacrifices, Pakistan was still engaged in 'the war for world peace”.

        No other country has even come close to selflessly sacrificing so much.

        January 9, 2013 at 8:39 am |
    • David J

      That makes a lot of sense. After all US-Pakistan alliance goes all the way back 65 years when they helped us break ice with China and defeat the communist Soviets/India alliance in Afghanistan. Also Henry Kissinger and President Nixon flew out of Pakistan to China.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:43 am | Reply
    • Jerrod

      Pakistan even let us fly U2s out of their country for missions over USSR and India when we were fighting the cold war.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:45 am | Reply
  19. NoTags

    Get out now and save a hundred billion dollars. The end result is going to be the same anyway. It's too bad we don't remember the lesson we learned in Vietnam.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:12 am | Reply
  20. Mourning Wood

    F Afghanistan; pull them all out now.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:09 am | Reply
    • hey

      vbloodthirsty in tel aviv.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:51 am | Reply
    • hey

      bloodthirsty in tel aviv.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:51 am | Reply
  21. Ed

    Can anyone say Vietnam?

    January 9, 2013 at 8:09 am | Reply
    • Chuck Wagner

      Vietnam

      January 9, 2013 at 8:31 am | Reply
      • Flavia Lancia

        Excellent. Job well done, Chuck.

        January 9, 2013 at 8:39 am |
  22. JShort

    Reblogged this on The Current Voice.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:08 am | Reply
  23. jim

    Please....We should of just went after Osama and left. That would of made a better point from the US. Instead we decided to get Saddam first and let Afghanistan prepare for our return. We can bring our troops home and stilll protect our intrests out in the middle east.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:06 am | Reply
  24. rosethornne

    I wonder if it might be better to avoid all wars unless we are willing to go with full-out nuclear engagement.

    The purpose of war is destruction, and there is no more destructive force on the planet than nuclear. Prettying up war to be 'defending our way of life' or 'spreading democracy' or some other bull droppings is just hypocritical. War is for destruction; make it be for that purpose and no other.

    There would be at most one more American war, then nobody would be suicidal enough to poke at us again.

    That, or the world would all be a glowing crater, but at least we would have 'gotten our way'... hmmmm.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:03 am | Reply
  25. eeewww

    dont worry people, iran is next

    January 9, 2013 at 7:59 am | Reply
  26. Abu Suleiman

    Awesome. This will get the Muslims a chance to regroup and prepare their army with Jesus Christ (peace and blessings be upon him) as their leader to fight the evil forces of the Ant-Christ. The Anti-Christ will emerge from around the Iran-Iraq-Syria area and will be supported by the Jews and Shias. He will claim to be God. Jesus (pbuh) will God-Willing kill the Anti-Christ and Muslims will rule the world for sometime before the day of judgment.

    January 9, 2013 at 7:49 am | Reply
    • rosethornne

      What in the world have you been smoking?

      January 9, 2013 at 7:52 am | Reply
      • Abu Suleiman

        Nothing. I don't smoke nor do I drink. I don't eat pork either because like Joel Osteen explained in his 5 min youtube video. For Muslims the truth of life and death is as clear as day just like the twin towers being brought down by controlled demolition and the third building being brought down by controlled demolition is as clear as day. The horrifying part is that people who did 9/11 are still alive and well and running this country and they can do this again to Americans or anyone else in the world anyday anytime. Peace.

        January 9, 2013 at 8:01 am |
      • Amanda

        Obviously some kind of crazy stuff !!

        January 9, 2013 at 8:24 am |
    • AM

      Can somebody please call the CIA on this character? Pretty sure we have a budding terrorist in our midst... Now get off the opium and, wow, please come back to reality...Did you watch the planes fly in? Did you not see the explosions? Sure we should let you Abu's just go to hell... I'll buy you a ticket... It's ridiculous. I watched it happen! There is no conspiracy! You muslims, went crazy and killed a whole lot of people in a stupid act... That is pure and simple.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:17 am | Reply
      • Abu Suleiman

        AM, I think if thats the case, then I am sure you would want hundreds and thousands of hard working American (non-Muslim) professors, architects and engineers also to be reported to the CIA because they clearly seem to believe that it was a controlled demolition. Let me ask you this. Are you a moron? Have you not seen the tower 7 come down? It is people like you who pose an imminent threat to the safety and security of our children, women and citizens. Wake up from your sleep.

        January 9, 2013 at 8:25 am |
      • Abu Suleiman

        Remember that Muslims are not the enemy. Muslims want peace in their lives and in the world. Harming any human being is a major sin in Islam. Anyone who acuses anyone of mas murder will be punished in the hereafter. So do not speak whatever you feel like. Protect yourselves and your families from deception and a painful punishment in the hereafter.

        January 9, 2013 at 8:37 am |
    • Chuck Wagner

      Mmmmm, bacon.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:33 am | Reply
  27. PEACE ON EVERYONE

    The Obama administration is considering the removal of all U.S. troops in Afghanistan when the NATO combat mission ends after 2014,
    Unbelievable ....... PEOPLE READ THE EXACT WORD ........................ AFTER 2014, ======why not before 2014, why not now.............and put all that money to our us economy.

    January 9, 2013 at 7:48 am | Reply
  28. IvotedforObama

    Funny how people are saying he "surrendered" when NONE of them had the guts to serve. I served for 12 years so I know what war is like and those people are not worth one drop of our blood.

    January 9, 2013 at 7:44 am | Reply
    • DaGaff

      Thank you for saying what needs to be said! The middle east is twisted and cannot be straightened out. Thank you for serving your time.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:12 am | Reply
    • AM

      God bless you Brother! Thank you. And I agree completely. They are not worth even attempting to help. They don't want it. And we can't force it. Rats... Welcome to corruption, deceit, betrayal, lies, murder, abuse of women, and the wonderful religion of Islam.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:29 am | Reply
    • Chuck Wagner

      Well I have served 25 years and the majority are good people. Many misguided by Islam and the Imams that preach the perversion. And Afghanistan is in Asia not the Middle East.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:35 am | Reply
  29. G_Edwards

    "Considering"??!!??

    Didn't he PROMISE us that'd he get us out by 2014?

    .

    January 9, 2013 at 7:43 am | Reply
  30. hubert39

    I'm a Obama supporter. He lied in 2008. The troops should have been pulled out of Afgahnistan 6 months after Obama was became president. The USA could have saved over 470 bilion dollars and our troops lives and we woundn't have so many wounded warriors.

    January 9, 2013 at 7:42 am | Reply
    • PEACE ON EVERYONE

      so you think its that easy as 123 or abc,

      January 9, 2013 at 7:44 am | Reply
      • Chuck Wagner

        He sure campaigned that way. Oh yeah, Bush left a bigger mess than he was smart enough to realize.

        January 9, 2013 at 8:37 am |
  31. Patton

    That makes two surrenders from this President. What a leader. SMH

    January 9, 2013 at 7:40 am | Reply
    • IvotedforObama

      Did you ever serve? You ever have the guts to walk the line?

      January 9, 2013 at 7:45 am | Reply
      • Patton

        Yes I did, thank you for asking. I am extremely proud of my service, and do not brag about it.

        January 9, 2013 at 8:27 am |
    • Pedro

      Who has he surrendered to? For that matter, what were our objectives that needed to be met to be qualified as a success? Please answer, I honestly don't know, and that is pretty messed up for the longest military engagement of our history.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:03 am | Reply
    • james

      Hey d-ass since when is it a surrender when we caught the guy we were loooking for? Last time i checked obl is dead. We already won

      January 9, 2013 at 8:03 am | Reply
  32. michaelfury

    Found OBL's nanothermite factory yet?

    http://pulverizedtonearpower.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/pulverized-to-near-power/

    January 9, 2013 at 7:40 am | Reply
  33. realist512

    Relax. This is posturing to get Karzi in line.

    January 9, 2013 at 7:28 am | Reply
    • John R.

      This country needs to PERMANENTLY get OUT of the middle eastern wars. They are NOT of our concern, nor our problem. These "WARS", which are RELIGIOUS/ETHNIC WARS have been going on for centuries and won't be settled for centuries to come, or until they COMPLETELY KILL OFF EACH OTHER.

      January 9, 2013 at 7:54 am | Reply
      • The Other Bob

        End our addiction to petroleum, and THEN the Middle East is no longer our concern. I don't see that happening in the lifetime of anyone posting here.

        January 9, 2013 at 8:35 am |
    • Rick

      Exactly! It is not a coincidence that this suddenly breaks just before Karzai is about to visit. Read between the lines folks.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:58 am | Reply
  34. your_favorite_band_sucks

    Glass the place.... then put in a pool. Arizona part 2. Wait, do states get sequels?

    January 9, 2013 at 7:27 am | Reply
  35. tom adams

    They should have pulled them all out yesterday. Anyone who has died there has wasted their life in another worthless war.

    January 9, 2013 at 7:27 am | Reply
  36. strangways

    hmmm, "Pulling all troops out in 2014?" um – AND THEN WHAT? Watch how fast Afghanistan becomes Talibanistan and all our blood and treasure will have been for nothing. What do we get for ten years of effort and sacrifice?

    January 9, 2013 at 7:26 am | Reply
    • Pedro

      The better question is whether we can replace your 10 years with another higher number and come out with a better outcome. I see Afghanistan as having a war problem like drunks have an alcohol problem, and as drunks say "alcoholics are quitters" – until Afghanistan can maintain it's own impetus to stop all of the violence we should stay out of the intervention business there. They have been doing this for thousands of years, it's all they know. We can't fix what doesn't want fixing.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:08 am | Reply
  37. josh

    if i had a dollar for everytime the media has said the troops would be out, i feel this is yet another false alarm like the rest

    January 9, 2013 at 7:24 am | Reply
  38. sandyc

    ummm weren't they suppose to be out by christmas the year we voted president mr obama got voted in?

    January 9, 2013 at 7:23 am | Reply
    • Keith

      No, that was Iraq. And they did leave Iraq when they were supposed to.

      January 9, 2013 at 7:35 am | Reply
    • G_Edwards

      Keith is exhibiting the typical selective memory, as is typical with Oblemmings.

      Iraq:
      "Now, what I've said is we should end this war responsibly. We should do it in phases. But in 16 months we should be able to reduce our combat troops"

      Jan 2009 + 16 month = May 2010

      "President Obama declared an end on Tuesday (August 2010) to the seven-year American combat mission in Iraq,"

      .

      January 9, 2013 at 7:53 am | Reply
      • Pedro

        Someone needs to learn there is a difference in meaning between the words "reduce" and "end".

        January 9, 2013 at 8:09 am |
      • G_Edwards

        Someone needs to read things in context and incorporate everything Pres Obama said and promised. I gave one example. Fine, google (obama 16 months iraq promise) and you'll see that "end" was his promise.

        Obama Campaign, 2008: "Barack Obama will work with military commanders on the ground in Iraq and in consultation with the Iraqi government to end the war safely and responsibly within 16 months."

        From various new organizations:
        "While promising a 16-month timetable for getting all U.S. fighting forces out, Obama repeatedly insisted on..."
        "we're rating Obama's promise to remove combat troops within 16 months of taking office..."
        "As we reported in July 2008, Obama's 16 month withdrawal plan was not realistic..."
        "Barack Obama promised that American combat troops would be removed from Iraq within 16 months of taking office..."

        .

        January 9, 2013 at 8:31 am |
    • G_Edwards

      For Afghanistan:
      Aug 2008: "I will end this war in Iraq responsibly and finish the fight against Al Qaida and the Taliban in Afghanistan."

      That's a promise he made for his first term – BEFORE he was elected.

      Has he finished the fight with the Taliban in Afghanistan? Nope.

      .

      January 9, 2013 at 8:03 am | Reply
  39. USMama

    Only clear winner of this war: Halliburton.

    January 9, 2013 at 7:22 am | Reply
    • n2it

      Amen!

      January 9, 2013 at 7:46 am | Reply
  40. Lisa

    Who gives a crap what Karzai wants! Bring the troops home! Stop bleeding money into Afghanistan, and put them to work here. How about guarding OUR borders for a change?

    January 9, 2013 at 7:21 am | Reply
    • CHhrisINF

      I completely agree!

      January 9, 2013 at 8:37 am | Reply
  41. snowdogg

    "assure the stability of the Afghan government"

    Our great grandchildren will be involved in Afghanistan if this policy is followed

    January 9, 2013 at 7:16 am | Reply
  42. Mike

    It is time to face the fact that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is a lot of BULL. Where the Middle East is concerned, they are ALL our enemy. All we've been doing all these years is helping them kill each other ... to the benefit of one tribe or another. We have gained NOTHING from it. And especially now that Bin Laden is gone, there is no just reason for our continued presence in that part of the world. We should pull out NOW, not later. And our parting gesture should be to dump a load of Agent Orange on the Poppy crop. And our last words to them should be, "If we ever have to come back, we will be serious about it."

    January 9, 2013 at 7:11 am | Reply
    • William R. Hill

      To say that Afghanistan is and has been an unpopular war is an understatement. Was never have had any business making our troops the "hired hands" of any foreign government, particularly when there is no war to be won. The Taliban is just one of many tribes, sects, religions, etc. seeking to gain power and impose their philosophy on the people. Karzai is no different or less corrupt than the rest. The idea that we need our troops on the ground to keep Al Queda or any other bunch of terrorists from having a training base false justification. We have proved we can blow them up wherever they are, and we shouldn't be squimish about it. If we really want to get the U.S back on the right track, we need to get out of the Middle East entirely and stop wasting lives and $trillions tilting at windmills.

      January 9, 2013 at 7:47 am | Reply
    • hey

      "our" enemy = zionists' enemy. you're using "our" too liberally.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:43 am | Reply
  43. Conrad Shull

    All you Afghan women, get ready for a nasty whippin'.

    January 9, 2013 at 7:06 am | Reply
  44. Joel

    "The White House remains committed to ensuring Afghanistan does not return to its status as a safe haven for Al Qaeda, Rhodes said"
    Thanks, I needed a laugh this morning.

    January 9, 2013 at 6:36 am | Reply
  45. opinion8it

    Leave now!!!

    January 9, 2013 at 6:35 am | Reply
  46. aceptle

    But we won, right? Woohoo! Freedom fries!

    January 9, 2013 at 6:34 am | Reply
  47. RichardSRussell

    NOW! DO IT NOW!!

    It's already the longest war in US history, and I have yet to find a single person who can tell me why we're there (other than "because that's where bin Laden's hiding", which was a lie from the get-go).

    January 9, 2013 at 6:32 am | Reply
  48. James

    Who will watch over the CIA's opium fields?

    January 9, 2013 at 5:53 am | Reply
    • Mike

      Shut up! If losers like you were in charge we would have another 9-11.

      January 9, 2013 at 6:26 am | Reply
      • bengazi cia outpost not consulate

        wow people still believe dumb terrorist did 911 all by themselves

        January 9, 2013 at 6:36 am |
      • Mark

        Of course we are there to grow opium. You need to study history...war and opium go back to Alexander the Great...300 BC.
        Viet-Nam...British Opium War of 1850. The British enslaved India and took their guns , forced them to grow opium which the British enslaved up to 2/3 of China with addiction. The Spanish American war when the USA took the Philippines as it was the opium outlet of that era. Let's review. 19 alleged Saudi Arabian hijackers....So we invade Iraq? And Afghanistan...Now Obama is droning to death people in Pakistan?

        Wake up!

        January 9, 2013 at 7:47 am |
    • Robert

      We should grow our own opium, Stop exporting jobs and money.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:18 am | Reply
  49. ramesh

    Please use more drones and bring the soldiers back. Also leave some fighter jets and bombers behind (for preventive pest control).

    January 9, 2013 at 5:03 am | Reply
    • tom LI

      Are not Trained airmen and their support troops not soldiers...? Niice contradiction, bring em all home, but leave small and vulnerable air strike team behind! ?????

      January 9, 2013 at 5:48 am | Reply
      • Keith

        They don't control the drones from within Afghanistan. They can operate them from anywhere in the world. And in this case, the majority of them are operated from California.

        January 9, 2013 at 7:37 am |
    • Brian Jones

      Brilliant. Drones and jets when you guys can barely manage sticks and rocks. Um, no.

      January 9, 2013 at 6:29 am | Reply
  50. Mr.Correct

    History will remember the Afghanistan War as America's biggest mistake and our greatest failure. But worry not, Americans. This will be our last great adventure in foreign intervention. America has stepped down from its position as the world's police force. Economic reality has forced us to rethink our role in the world. We are slowly waking up to the realization that we can't spend our tax dollars on things that directly harm our citizens, like ramping up heroin production in foreign countries. We haven't beaten the Taliban, we haven't beaten Al-Qaeda, but we always knew we wouldn't because you can't kill an idea. Terrorists can be Muslims, they can Christians, they can be Middle Eastern or they can be American. The next great terrorist attack will be like McVeigh or Kaczynski, a disgruntled American who teaches us that Islam is not the problem, our refusal to prepare ourselves is the problem.

    January 9, 2013 at 4:27 am | Reply
    • johnk

      Are you sure about that? Congress, I really question its rational thinking in getting involved. And as far as the President is concerned, that to is also open to question. WE seem to always get involved in others affairs for the "good of democracy", or the stopping of terrorism, or violation of human rights, or whatever excuse to get involved for. Vietnam was also a big disaster to get involved in.

      January 9, 2013 at 5:21 am | Reply
    • Nick Meron

      Limiting ourselves to military misadventures, 1812 was our greatest failure, and Vietnam was a far greater mistake. The problem with Afghanistan is mission creep, from dismembering Taliban support for international terror, largely accomplished on an effective basis in the first months of the war, to a hopeless nation building exercise in an isolated, landlocked tribal society most of which does not really want to be a nation state. If the mission had been purely brief and punitive, it would have met its objectives, and Afghanistan would probably not be any more chaotic than it is now.

      However, I would rate slavery as the USA's greatest mistake and failure, hands down. Take a longer view.

      January 9, 2013 at 5:49 am | Reply
    • hey

      rest assured, whatever riches underground afghanistan will be looted by global 1% before our "police" role funded by 99% is over. total success for the global 1%. always.

      January 9, 2013 at 8:50 am | Reply
  51. Todd

    I think we should get everyone out by the end of the week while Hammy Karsham is over here visiting. When he gets home he can be greeted by the taliban leadership

    January 9, 2013 at 4:12 am | Reply
    • ramesh

      Please keep the drones. Also use drones on the kashmir side of Pak.

      January 9, 2013 at 4:56 am | Reply
  52. Richard Wad

    Could we get the Tablian's perspective on this withdrawl?

    Nevermind, I know what they will say:

    Allah be praised, Allah Akbar.
    Our prophet and savior Osama bin Laden shall be resurrected.

    January 9, 2013 at 3:21 am | Reply
    • Waryaa

      Your brain fart type, faux news garbage consuming...right wing trash... were wrong then...and you will continue to be wrong...

      Taliban will long continue the resistance...but the Afghan army and administration has been strengthened to a sufficient point ..where Taliban total takeover is unlikely....Same thing as in Iraq will happen, continued insurgency, but the gov't there can take the brunt...

      Once foreign troops are out, and Talibans continue on their tactic against a modern Afghan gov't...their popularity will slowly begin to diminish....add to that the ever presence of drones and strategic strikes that will forever continue to hunt their leaders...

      January 9, 2013 at 3:53 am | Reply
      • jen

        Wow, that sure is some good pot ur smoking out in Colorado.... maybe you should put down the pipe and sober up before posting.

        January 9, 2013 at 7:25 am |
  53. n2it

    We accomplished what there? Thank you Bush. Congrats Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld. Don't spend it all in one place for God's sake. Spread it around.... Now, our troops will come home and the military will start their typical "early out" programs in an attempt to downsize and our veterans will struggle looking for a good job. What a terrible waste of good young men and women.

    January 9, 2013 at 3:19 am | Reply
    • 111Dave111

      We destroyed Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and eventually got bin Laden. I agree that Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld could have accomplished that sooner (2001 in Tora Bora). However getting out now or sooner would be ideal.

      January 9, 2013 at 3:35 am | Reply
      • 111Dave111

        Alex you are too optimistic
        "We also overthrew the Taliban, united tribes and coalitions, reintroduced an elective government, built roads and infrastructure, built schools and medical facilities, rebuilt two international airports, are working to rebuild private industry, extended security, law and control, and are fighting to suppress the industry that supplies ~97% of the world's supply of opium"
        I think all that will be gone soon...

        January 9, 2013 at 4:36 am |
    • Alex T

      Well, as Dave pointed out, we crushed a top global terrorist network and got bin Laden. We also overthrew the Taliban, united tribes and coalitions, reintroduced an elective government, built roads and infrastructure, built schools and medical facilities, rebuilt two international airports, are working to rebuild private industry, extended security, law and control, and are fighting to suppress the industry that supplies ~97% of the world's supply of opium (which goes on to provide billions to global criminal and terrorist organizations). The list literally goes on and on. But yeah, no progress here! What more do you want?

      January 9, 2013 at 3:45 am | Reply
      • n2it

        What we did was make a select few U.S. companies and politicians very rich. Lets see how that dreamy "elected government" fairs in a few years. I'm sure it'll do better than Iraq's? No way their farmers will revert back to growing opium. No way. That country will quickly go downhill, far worse than it is now.

        January 9, 2013 at 4:08 am |
      • Alex T

        n2it: Yes, because no companies eveeeer profit from war or conflict. Please don't be naive. Just because there are war profiteers does not mean that good things can't be accomplished on the ground.

        So you would argue that the elective government would actually do better if we left? I wouldn't bet on it.

        Maybe you haven't kept up with Iraq now that it's mostly off the news, but it's actually doing quite well considering the context. Time (and our continued support) will tell.

        The farmers are already growing opium; I never stated otherwise, quite the contrary actually. It will take a lot of effort, time, resources, and money, to combat it in the future. Considering the fact that Afghanistan and its opium is the primary driver for some serious global crime and terrorist activity, I would argue that it is worth it.

        "That country will quickly go downhill, far worse than it is now." Where are your facts? What are you basing this belief on? Do you honestly believe it would get better if we just pull our support completely?

        January 9, 2013 at 6:36 am |
    • rosethirnne

      It's a once-in-a-century opportunity to put a whole bunch of strong, motivated, disciplined people to work repairing our infrastructure.

      That way, vets get eased back into the civilian workforce and our crumbing infrastructure gets some much-needed nationbuilding-type work done.

      It's a win/win, plus any bridges and power grids etc. they build won't get blown up by bronze-age idiots, so that would have to be much more satisfying for the troops.

      January 9, 2013 at 7:48 am | Reply
  54. Alex T

    Does anyone care to actually, I don't know, talk to the troops? I always get a kind of disgusted kick out of listening to people, completely unconnected with the war in any tangible way, shape, or form, drone on about how abysmal things are and how we've dropped the ball. Those of us in the military, who are actually connected and who are aware of the great progress that has been made in Afghanistan, and is still being made, are left scratching our heads.

    There's a mountain of positive information that the media, for a number of reasons, simply doesn't report on, so the level of ignorance in the general population is understandable. What boggles my mind is why these ignorant people are often the loudest when it comes to ranting against something they clearly know nothing about.

    January 9, 2013 at 2:48 am | Reply
    • Fry

      It's because these people don't actually support the troops. They just say they do so that they can buy a ribbon or impress their friends. Truth is, they've never so much as talked to any soldier who's been over there... or cared to ask what it was like. Oh, by the way... I'd like to get this straight. Obama thinks Al Qaeda is bad in Afghanistan, but okay in Syria and Libya right? And yes, Pakistan is not right next to Afghanistan right? It would make much more sense to invade an ally wouldn't it? You do all the online research you like buddy. Too bad you can't download common sense. You can't fight an ideal, like terrorism. It's an intangible. I'm pretty sure just about everyone in the military is aware of that. We wanted Bin Laden and had a pretty good idea of where he was when (and I'm assuming you've done ALL of your research) he could have been hiding anywhere in the world really. But no, Obama drone attacks babies and it's Bush's fault for us being over there in the first place. You fault Bush for a tireless and endless war when there were plenty of Democrats in Congress who approved it. How man times has Obama thrown money at acts of war without even bothering to get Congressional approval. Here's a hint, ask Al Qaeda. I'm not pro Bush, but I'm also not blinded by pandering.

      January 9, 2013 at 4:21 am | Reply
      • Alex T

        At what point did I ever blame Bush or give any indication of supporting Obama? Your comment and "points" are all over the place (are you supporting my own? against them? I honestly can't tell).

        Terrorism is not an ideal. Terrorism is a set of very physical acts in support of a wide range of potentially very different goals. And yes, you can fight both physical terrorist acts and the actual ideal behind them, whatever it may be.

        January 9, 2013 at 6:25 am |
  55. waikikijohn

    about time

    January 9, 2013 at 2:39 am | Reply
  56. thebeast

    That's not a presidential decision, bringing them home at the end of 2013 is!

    January 9, 2013 at 1:51 am | Reply
  57. tRUEaMERICAN77

    Can we all admit this whole war on terror thing is just a big sham ? All it really has affected is to make us feel like our rights and freedoms are being trampled on, and for what just so I can play out some delusion that I live in a totally safe country. Well guess what that will never happen , not ever. We all need to grow up and tell our Govt. we are not children who want to hide under our beds from the so called bogeyman. It is better to be free and cautious than it is to give up your freedoms and rights and feel 100 percent safe ;which is just not possible as we all know.

    January 9, 2013 at 1:47 am | Reply
    • Roger Browning

      No.

      January 9, 2013 at 2:14 am | Reply
    • Alex T

      Sham? You do know the FBI tracks terrorist attacks? Taken from their 2011 annual report:

      "Over 10,000 terrorist attacks occurred in 2011, affecting nearly 45,000 victims in 70 countries and resulting in over 12,500 deaths."

      Does this sound like the bogeyman to you?

      January 9, 2013 at 3:31 am | Reply
      • Todd

        We should Ban terrorism...that'll fix it

        January 9, 2013 at 4:08 am |
      • jay campbell

        u sir sound just like a gov't contractor! new airports,roads.schools,etc.Why.Can u tell me why?

        January 9, 2013 at 4:42 am |
    • Sayhey

      I have to agree, tRUE. It was a sham. September 11th just gave our government the excuse it needed.

      January 9, 2013 at 7:19 am | Reply
  58. ALAN FISCHER

    Get out of Afghanstan now–all those americans dead for no reason

    January 9, 2013 at 1:45 am | Reply
  59. bspurloc

    Remove all troops ASAP. the Mission was to get OSAMA not REBUILD a wasteland that has no possible income to support a military.....

    January 9, 2013 at 1:37 am | Reply
  60. ronjayaz

    Censored by fascist CNN. See my FACEBOOK.

    January 9, 2013 at 1:37 am | Reply
    • bspurloc

      go post it on foxfacts

      January 9, 2013 at 1:38 am | Reply
  61. Devin

    America is too hard-headed. We never admit when we're wrong, we think we own the world and that we're invincible. Why can't we just admit that that we cannot gain a good outcome from this war. If we packed up and went home we would save lives and money that is desperately needed here. When it comes time to fight a powerful country like Iran we're going to fail big time because of the resources being wasted.

    January 9, 2013 at 1:36 am | Reply
    • davonskevort

      we wont fail in a war against iran... what we fail to do is have a good exit plan... and nation building is not a good idea.

      January 9, 2013 at 3:08 am | Reply
    • Alex T

      Seriously? Iran would be steamrolled.

      January 9, 2013 at 3:37 am | Reply
      • Mark

        Never underestimate your enemy or they will hit exactly where you thought you were the safest.

        January 9, 2013 at 4:11 am |
      • Alex T

        You know why they won't? Because we'd steamroll them...

        January 9, 2013 at 7:04 am |
  62. BeverlyNC

    We need to leave NOW. Nothing is being accomplished. We are not the inane Bush game of "winning the hearts and minds of the People". They hate us and want us out of their country. We are causing more deaths of innocent citizens by our presence. We build schools and they get blown up. a girl who goes to a school gets shot in the head for going to a school and the whole world is upset but 20 children in CT are massacred and the NRA is protecting the right of a killer to have a military grade weapon. The day we leave the Taliban will resume total power and it will be like we were never there.
    It's time to get our soldiers out, stop wasting billions a day on a war that has accomplished nothing, has run up our debt to ridiculous amounts, murdered and disabled thousands of our soldiers for no reason anyone can explain since Osama bin Laden is dead and the whole event was done in one night by a Special Forces team, and only is enriching defense contractors like Dick Cheney's company, Hailburton.
    Why aren't we instead building and repairing schools here in America? Training and adding more teachers? Building roads and repairing roads here? Feeding our own citizens who are starving? We have our own corrupt Congress of obstructionist Republicans to bring down so we can finally restore our own economy and recreate our middle class where the American Dream used to live (here not Afghanistan).
    Soldiers are being murdered by Afghan soldiers and now citizens and it is a huge story in the news. They say we must leave this violent place. Should we leave Amercia too since they are more gun deaths here than all European nations combined?
    Afghanistan is not our enemy. They have no army, nothing but IEDs as the main means to kill our soldiers, and destroy everything we do to help their nation. We should bring our soldiers home now and cut the Defense budget in half, end all Defense contracts, ban ALL assault weapons and large clips except for law enforcement and the military.
    How many children have to die before the NRA becomes irrelevant? We have had President Reagan shot, his press secretary brain-damaged from the same gun attack, Congresswoman Gabby Giffords nearly killed and forever damaged mentally and physically. Still Congress has done NOTHING about guns. Even a shooting of guards at the Capiotl building led to no action.
    The NRA and the gun sickos still defend the 2nd amendment written for the 1700s. When are we going to prioritize American lives, end gun massacres by banning assault weapons and have a national gun registry just like we have AFIS for fingerprints, a DNA database, a driver license database? Why are gun companies immune from prosecution when McDonalds gets sued and has to pay money for coffee that is too hot?
    It's time to end gun violence caused by American gun makers both foreign and domestic.

    January 9, 2013 at 1:35 am | Reply
    • penny252

      Such drivel

      January 9, 2013 at 2:03 am | Reply
    • pvt4jc

      libtard mumbo jumbo

      January 9, 2013 at 3:07 am | Reply
    • sotrueman

      man you are telling the truth I believe everything will go right back to the same way that it was. Let them all blow themselves up over there is the way i feel about it! If they want to spend their lives killing each other then who cares about them. They have to find a way to support means of technology that can reach us to harm us.. They kill the ones of them that are even intelligent enough to develop types of means that then they need to find funding for.

      January 9, 2013 at 3:14 am | Reply
    • Alex T

      You don't seem to have any actual knowledge of the war in Afghanistan... Hint: it's not costing billions of dollars per day.

      January 9, 2013 at 3:36 am | Reply
      • Globus

        Facts? Since when do facts matter when ill-informed opinions are so much easier to spew...

        January 9, 2013 at 6:41 am |
    • n2it

      Well said!

      January 9, 2013 at 4:12 am | Reply
    • bobo

      Please....... I do NOT need to read a book on here....

      January 9, 2013 at 8:48 am | Reply
  63. ronjayaz

    Good riddance to bad rubbish. If it were possible, I'd like us to leave on Saturday, the day after Karzai sees the President.

    January 9, 2013 at 1:27 am | Reply
  64. tRUEaMERICAN77

    These forums are funny ...Everyone posts comments , but yet no one really ever communicates directly with one another ...what a waste

    January 9, 2013 at 1:26 am | Reply
    • Matt in KY

      Just hate! Mostly religious, historic, or national hate. They don't know why, their grandparents told them so....but it's all hate. This stuff literally is depressing. Some of these people would rather kill us. For all I know, you're a robot from Canada!

      January 9, 2013 at 1:36 am | Reply
    • ALAN FISCHER

      Who cares–surely not the new generation–thoughless-some are brain dead-if the the South would have won the War of 1861-1865–things would be different–GOD BLESS THE SOUTH AND OUR COTTON FIELDS

      January 9, 2013 at 2:10 am | Reply
  65. ReasonAbel

    Complete these 3 easy steps to go from loved to hated President:
    1. Leave Afghanistan
    2. Allow terrorist forces to rebuild
    3. Become victim of homeland terrorist attack

    January 9, 2013 at 1:26 am | Reply
    • Devin

      So we stay in Afghanistan forever and have our resources sapped until we nothing left. Great idea.

      January 9, 2013 at 1:31 am | Reply
    • rkooyers

      I am willing to leave Afghanistan. Only a couple of targets to be authorized. Detroit first, no loss as nothing is there. Maybe Chicago, second as all they have are corrupt politicians. New York third, as they think they are the center of the universe. On the third option, the universe is destroyed and no further problems. Thank you to the Mayans...let's get it done.

      January 9, 2013 at 1:38 am | Reply
  66. tRUEaMERICAN77

    Why do non Americans and non native English speakers feel the need to get on here and put out their broken English , barely comprehensible opinions?

    January 9, 2013 at 1:25 am | Reply
    • Devin

      Trust me, those ARE the Americans.

      January 9, 2013 at 1:28 am | Reply
    • Matt in KY

      I admit, it's me

      January 9, 2013 at 1:29 am | Reply
    • ALAN FISCHER

      Deport all illegals
      Speak English or get out of the USA
      Quite demanding everything written in Spanish
      $113,000,000,000.00-This years cost of illegal imigration
      1,400,000-the number of illegal immigrants households getting one major welfare program
      Benifits: food stamps-wic-school lunches-medicaid-wic-ssi-subdized housing

      January 9, 2013 at 2:18 am | Reply
  67. brown

    The American electorate chose to elect people who do not understand the instruments of power.

    The World knows the U.S. has lost the war in Afghanistan, now is the time for the electorate to accept this fact.

    Better luck next time!

    January 9, 2013 at 1:24 am | Reply
  68. kandy321

    They'll need those troops to confiscate the guns in the United States.

    January 9, 2013 at 1:24 am | Reply
  69. tRUEaMERICAN77

    This is silly how stupid do you think we are ? It's obvious this occupation has nothing to do with eliminating safe haven for Al Queda . as they have just moved to other countries ..Don't see the US doing much about those places ....this is all a load of crock ....Experiment to see if people even read or respond to one another...Question and someone answer it ...Do you think CNN is now playing to just getting higher ratings , so they get more advertiser revenue ...If no one answers this then that proves this whole forum idea is nothing but a waste of time

    January 9, 2013 at 1:19 am | Reply
    • Hillcrester

      We should remove all forces from a-stan ASAP, surely within six months. Nothing is going to get better for us there.

      January 9, 2013 at 1:21 am | Reply
    • Matt in KY

      There are real people here. Who knows where they are from or if every single one of them works for CNN?!? Their ate definitely a "haters of America" squad...and their word usage is poor...but so is mine. You'll notice no one says I or me...emotion lacking, professional writing. What's even more scary is this is one of the only intelligent conversations in my world....but filled with childish hate, partisanship, and anti-Americanism. I think they are pmayinv with me too. It's even worse when all your predictions come true. And Im totally sane....for now

      January 9, 2013 at 1:27 am | Reply
      • Matt in KY

        Edit for bunches

        January 9, 2013 at 1:28 am |
    • oBozo

      Mr Obozo said we are winning the Afghanistant war. So, do not worry, spending your unemployer checks as musc as you can.

      January 9, 2013 at 1:36 am | Reply
  70. Devin

    The people here begging not to leave Afghanistan are the same people who think 9/11 happened because middle easterners are jealous of our 'merican freedom.

    January 9, 2013 at 1:12 am | Reply
    • oBozo

      We went to Afghanistant because Obama buddy was living there. we tried to kill Bin laden, but he ran away to Pkistant. We are done with Afghanistant. Obama has provided security for the drug trafficker Karzai. Get the hell out of there as fast as we can. frankly speaking, there is no oil in there, all they have is cocain, ovanium.

      January 9, 2013 at 1:40 am | Reply
  71. DustyOnes

    They will be there longer under Obama than under Bush.

    January 9, 2013 at 1:01 am | Reply
  72. history lesson

    Yes. Pull them out. Like we were promised 5 years ago...

    January 9, 2013 at 12:59 am | Reply
    • rkooyers

      Like GITMO?

      January 9, 2013 at 1:05 am | Reply
      • history lesson

        Like the report blaming Saudi Arabia for 9/11 that we drew black lines through and the media allowed them to ignore

        January 9, 2013 at 1:08 am |
  73. disgustedvet

    May as well pull them out as the Obama aministration's know nothing rules of engagement has made them sitting ducks anyway. Who fights a war with one hand tied behind your back and you can only fire if you ask the enemies permission ?

    January 9, 2013 at 12:54 am | Reply
    • rkooyers

      Obama, these are nothing but mostly conservative guys. Most wouldn't vote for him anyway. They are the goyim that his advisors talk about. It only counts if it is about the phoney Ashke_nazi Khaz_ar Zi_onists Jews who took over Palestine.

      January 9, 2013 at 1:16 am | Reply
      • oBozo

        Probably you look into your toilet mirror and you see yourself a better picture, is it a monkey or a lip-servicer!!!!
        If Bush did not go to Afghanistant after 9/11, then your folks and CNN stupidreporters blame he is not a US president.
        Bush had just below 30,000 troops, the anti-war jumped up and down and defat ourself before the enemies attacked us.
        The Obama increased to 90,000 troops and trillions. Your stupidliberals blame it is Bush fault.
        Obama and his administration provide the safe haven/protection for Karzai's drug cartel/trafficker. your folks said, it is the right things to do.
        Obama played the "US paper tiger" , your folks gave him the purple medal for excellent appology jobs the al-queda and enmies!
        Now, Obama is trying to run away like a bited dog . your folks said Obama won the Afghanistant war, and ended.
        The fact is that There is no US president kissthe enemiesass like Obama. Viva the hipiies, cracked in college

        January 9, 2013 at 1:32 am |
  74. Jared

    Common sense tells me you shouldn't tell the enemy when you are planning on leaving. So confused with this administration o.O

    January 9, 2013 at 12:52 am | Reply
    • Devin

      It doesn't matter. We can't be there for eternity.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:53 am | Reply
    • lawdog1521

      Biden said the Taliban wasn't the enemy over a year ago, this administration plans on leaving Afghanistan to them. Lets be brutally honest. The last 11 years will have been for nothing.

      January 9, 2013 at 1:08 am | Reply
      • Hillcrester

        Better to limit it to 11 years rather than 13. "Sunk costs" was the reason we stayed in Vietnam too long. Let's not make that mistake any worse here.

        January 9, 2013 at 1:24 am |
  75. Devin

    Does anyone think that the Taliban believes it can take the US military on head first? Their tactic is to drag us into poverty just like they did with the Soviet Union. The Taliban aren't a stupid enemy as the media would have you believe.

    January 9, 2013 at 12:48 am | Reply
    • lawdog1521

      The war with the Taliban was lost from the start. By fighting a PC war we allowed them to just ride things out. The Taliban should no longer exist. It's the same thing with the Bathe party.

      It would be like going into WW2 Germany, defeating Hitler, then saying, "Okay, you guys can still be Nazi's". In today's world we don't destroy the enemy, we try to make friends with them.

      January 9, 2013 at 1:14 am | Reply
  76. Daniel from Mexico

    I hope so, so many bad deaths for really bad economic issues, economy has to be equal, the partys has to win,
    But anyway wars for the stupid (amigos) "americanos" that's what they like to do, and then why children kill kids in any age from 5 – 99. Maybe your political decisions are rotten, maybe Bush made September 11, Maybe they fall by US hands...
    Maybe is time to change and chosse as a "pueblo" new liders who cares on education and jobs, those are the formula for better country and a better world, I don't know why but I still trust the US, they do everything to not believe more in them but I still have hopes I believe they could be good friends, and noy try to steal good by making war in other countries besides take care of their own people.

    January 9, 2013 at 12:48 am | Reply
  77. allenwoll

    .
    Leave now ! ! ! - Better, leave YESTERDAY ! ! !

    January 9, 2013 at 12:38 am | Reply
    • Daniel from Mexico

      please

      January 9, 2013 at 12:49 am | Reply
    • GrandGremlin

      Yep

      January 9, 2013 at 12:49 am | Reply
      • GrandGremlin

        Afghans deserve Sharia law, nothing else. That is what a stone age country deserves. They do not deserve democracy or a republic. Let them go back to chiselling flint and eating goats. The rest of the world has moved on....

        January 9, 2013 at 12:54 am |
    • history lesson

      Saudi Arabia attacked us on 9/11. Why we continue to blame puppets is beyond me.

      January 9, 2013 at 1:06 am | Reply
  78. Name*thinker10

    So what WH is saying it OK for talban to stay in Afghanistan then why US forces are fighting with talban?

    January 9, 2013 at 12:36 am | Reply
  79. Kman66

    If the USA was full of as many p*ssies in 1945 as there are today, those few of us who survived would be speaking German. It's so nice for you "peacemakers" to run around protesting war when it is the only reason you have freedom today. Either face reality that it is a tough world that requires occasional unpleasantries, or lose your freedom.

    January 9, 2013 at 12:33 am | Reply
    • Devin

      A war between countries and a fight with insurgents are two very different things.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:44 am | Reply
    • Matt in KY

      That is the most character lacking reason to continue frivolous hostility for zero gain I've heard. Give me a sane reason open combat in Afghanistan should continue? Do you work for a defense contractor? My family is laying in Arlington. The rest did decades.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:55 am | Reply
    • Devin

      Also, I hope you're serving or have served in the military as I am now. Otherwise, calling people p*ssies would be a little ironic.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:57 am | Reply
  80. stevephoenix

    Sorry Afghans...in America under the Obama regime we have a new tradition and saying...it's called....'being thrown under the bus'!

    January 9, 2013 at 12:28 am | Reply
  81. John

    Wish they would just pull them all out tomorrow. What difference would it make. Likely none.

    January 9, 2013 at 12:26 am | Reply
  82. stevephoenix

    Obama really has done everything possible to make Afghanistan the left-wing version of the Vietnam war and because of his social determinism it will end in the same human disaster; way to go President ruler of the realm of delusion. Good luck in your pathological disconnect of Islam with terrorism and finding a humane member of the Taliban..

    January 9, 2013 at 12:22 am | Reply
    • Matt in KY

      I'm not sure if I believe it exactly..."drones been droning" and these wars have been dragging on long enough that you have to question "why"? Regarding the human disaster, I believe Karzai was alluding to the same thing, but hard to tell what is juice and what is legit.....I hope we act sensibly

      but,

      that was one fancy piece of writing. I'm impressed. I'm am not an English savant, and often slob it up, but that was awesome (regardless of my personal reaction to the content).

      January 9, 2013 at 12:32 am | Reply
  83. rad666

    "Afghan government has a security force that is sufficient"

    So, they did not have one before NATO came, why does anyone think they will ever have one?
    Kazari has pocketed all the foreign aid America sent.

    January 9, 2013 at 12:15 am | Reply
  84. greeninthedesert

    PULL THEM NOW!!!! Why sacrifice more lives?? My brother is going back over there in February- for the second time. He has seen so many horrible things he will NEVER be the same boy again. What these wars have done to the troops is simply horrific... and will be carried for generations.... and to the poster "Amy" ... go over there and fight yourself or send your own son, husband or brother- you might feel differently!!!

    January 9, 2013 at 12:11 am | Reply
  85. Captain America

    CONSIDERING? They are CONSIDERING removing troops by 2014? This should have been done a decade a go or in 2008 at the least like Obama promised. The missions over, been over. If Osama was the goal, he had been in pakistan for YEARS, reason enough to not have been there for years, letting our men and women die over there for a country that resents us. Commanders on the ground and Obama in the WH have no spine.

    January 9, 2013 at 12:06 am | Reply
    • Matthew

      How did Obama promise he'd have the troops out by 2008 when he wasn't even president until 2009? Another trip to the "Comments" section, another few thousand brain cells squandered.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:45 am | Reply
  86. Lee

    Nobody has conquered the Chinese or Afghanistan in world history. There is a reason for that they are fearless. I know we have the best tier one guys out there in all services, but most of the combat troops should come home. The Taliban can't be let loose on "friendly" Afghans after 2014 because it will be mayhem. Some one needs to stay back and protect the Women and Children, but only the best and willing. Karzai will become a problem in the future like the Shah of Iran. This is de ja vu.

    January 9, 2013 at 12:04 am | Reply
    • Observer

      The Chinese were forever destroyed over 1000 years ago by the mongrels, their entire dna was altered as the mongrels enter every part of their country, its in a book, just go to the library, and the only reason these cavemen have held on is because of the restraint shown by the powers that have fought to control the country, they have no magic that defies conquest, if it were all out war the burn mark would be there for years to come, its politicians who make statements like America lost in Viet Nam, they never wanted to win in the first place and secondly again if they wanted to there would just be a scarred landscape remaining where Viet Nam is today. We live in a clinical world today where you couldn't possibly deal with these people the way a true conqueror would do in the past. Their resilent people ( Afghanis ) but there isn't a nation on earth besides perhaps the United States that couldn't be destroyed. I'm not even a conservative or American for crying out loud but I do know what is what.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:51 am | Reply
  87. BelladonnaCove

    Asked my friend who's son is in Afghanistan if she thought torture was o.k. if it saved her son's life. She said 'yes' !
    Go marines and wipe out those natives !!! Kill them all !!!

    January 8, 2013 at 11:59 pm | Reply
    • Susan

      Hell, yeah.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:08 am | Reply
  88. andrea

    I will believe it when I see it! My son will be going there in April and I pray daily he will come home alive!

    January 8, 2013 at 11:57 pm | Reply
  89. Loya

    Obama was waiting for second Term. To get the old spentout hawks like MaCaine out of the road..Why did US go there in first place.??..This is 3rd War after 1945, from where American Mighty Fire Machine has been pushed back without a piece of Land and 60,000 coffins sent back...The remaining 15000 will be shot by Talibans like sitting ducks...Can we afford to receive more body bags?

    January 8, 2013 at 11:54 pm | Reply
    • Matt in KY

      Warning: beware the "American Mighty Fire Machine"..........because........it has been pushed back......

      You sound scared right now.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:00 am | Reply
    • f1r3k1ll3d

      We went there because most trained al-queda forces were there. Raiding, taking over villages, out running their government system, planning terrorists attacks nation wide, killing civilians and threatening them. Their training camps will put nationwide security on 24/7. To prevent and eliminate this threat, the States and NATO had to take down the al-Qaeda and its forces. and rumor is they're moving into Africa. If this is a threat to all citizens around the world and if this group enlarges over the years... we would of been f** with WMD.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:07 am | Reply
      • Matt in KY

        A much better answer...beers and emotionalism...it's Tuesday.

        January 9, 2013 at 12:12 am |
      • Matt in KY

        Wednesday now, actually.

        January 9, 2013 at 12:13 am |
      • Angela Birch

        Alqueada was not running the government in Afghanistan, nor was it taking over villages. It went there because the Taliban had many similar positions on religion and the organization of society. It was a major problem, absolutely. But invasion and trying to fight a conventional war was a bad decision. You want to win not just relocate them. You fight with brains not by pouring manpower in as if it was WW2.

        January 9, 2013 at 12:30 am |
  90. brad

    My friend in the army who faught in Afganistan says the troops wonder why they are still there, that the Afgan army is large enough and well enough equiped to deal with anything, and with nice weapons we gave them, not crappy ones. I say pull every last troop out of their.

    January 8, 2013 at 11:51 pm | Reply
  91. MakoTen

    We'll end up leaving a few thousand troops, mainly Army Green Beret to continue assisting and training. I am sure well also need to leave some Navy and Army EOD to continue locating IEDs.

    January 8, 2013 at 11:45 pm | Reply
    • Angela Birch

      We have been training for long enough. IT is their country and they need to run it. They have a chance and that is enough. No more Americans need to die.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:32 am | Reply
  92. Michael

    our troops need to come home they dhould have come home a long time ago.and people wonder why our nation is in trouble.simple bring our troops home and stop spending money on always going to war in another country.and support our people in our own streets that are homeless

    January 8, 2013 at 11:42 pm | Reply
    • Tory

      As a Neighbor to the Americans up north :). I agree with you but those type of procedures are not simple .... One doesn't simply pullout the Military from the Country in 1 day .... It takes weeks if not months to carry out that procedure.... You need an Exit Strategy my friend

      January 9, 2013 at 12:30 am | Reply
  93. Ibrahim bin al-Islam bin ther dun that

    No need to worry. Al Qaeda is moving to Syria. Problem solved.

    January 8, 2013 at 11:41 pm | Reply
    • Matt in KY

      Funny....true ...

      January 8, 2013 at 11:43 pm | Reply
    • Steve

      Right? They have established their own country now, in the northern remnnats of what used to be Mali before it fell to a military coup about 9-10 months ago. When the coup happened, all the contractors abondoned their jobs and left, leaving behind tons of heavy equipment to build bunkers there. They have already established armed and patrolled borders and made it their new home.

      All we have done for the last 10 years is pretty much for naught. Tough to swallow but it makes it no less true.

      January 8, 2013 at 11:52 pm | Reply
      • Matt in KY

        Mali will be a problem sooner than later. Destination unknown?!? Cabinet picks look pretty good for that sort of arena.

        January 9, 2013 at 12:17 am |
      • Abrams

        SF is already in Mali as we speak.

        January 9, 2013 at 12:37 am |
  94. ssc

    As long as US can make sure it protects the pipeline (building by Chevron) in Afghanistan, US army no need to be there.

    January 8, 2013 at 11:40 pm | Reply
  95. Johnny Horton

    "Retreat, hell we just got here!" ~ Captain Lloyd Williams, USMC at the Battle of Belleau Wood WWI

    January 8, 2013 at 11:39 pm | Reply
  96. BlackDynamite

    I'm not worried. I'm sure we'll have started a war somewhere else by then.....
    BD

    January 8, 2013 at 11:37 pm | Reply
  97. Matt in KY

    Bet Chuck Hagel has more insight on the issue than anyone on here.

    January 8, 2013 at 11:37 pm | Reply
  98. rehabmax

    Nobody seems to remember that Russia couldn't tame that godforsaken place. A tribal country with tribal mentality. The country is hurtling backwards in time. We either stay for the next hundred years or get out of Dodge.

    January 8, 2013 at 11:34 pm | Reply
    • John

      Obama talked to Gorbachev about Afganistan too. Only thing that Obama did that disappoints me is maintain our forces there, a total waste.

      January 9, 2013 at 12:29 am | Reply
  99. john k guillory

    Her name and rank is Sgt Danielle Robert Duvall and has served 20 yrs in the service and they can't send her home after i tried everything they asked and now they want more money , she served her time and country long enough ,now its my time for her to be with me ,can anyone help me get her home

    January 8, 2013 at 11:34 pm | Reply
    • Amy

      A) What the hell are you talking about? and B) Why are you putting your full name and that soldier's full name on this thread? Do you not realize how much information you have just given to the whole world about yourself? One 'people search' and the whole world knows who you are. Am I missing something here?

      January 8, 2013 at 11:45 pm | Reply
    • Uncommonviews

      No

      January 8, 2013 at 11:50 pm | Reply
  100. Lyndsie Graham

    We need to just simply pull out of Afghanistan just like the Russians did back in 1989 if we can't get the Karzai regime and the Taliban to the negotiating table. We never had any true right to invade that country in the first place! Leaving any of our troops in Afghanistan after 2014 is just sheer insanity at best!!!!!

    January 8, 2013 at 11:31 pm | Reply
    • Amy

      Go burn your bra or something. Iraq, maybe. But the land of Osama – it was 'game on' after they killed our innocent civilians. Roll over if you want to and let anyone terrorize your nation and you won't have a nation left.

      January 8, 2013 at 11:47 pm | Reply
      • Steve

        Maybe you should try to keep up with current events. Al Qeada has moved to Northenr Mali and established their own country there, larger than the size of Texas.

        If you think we are doing anything in Afghanistan other than spinning our wheels, you might want to think again. Its a money pit and exactly where Bin Laden led us to wallow in debt, just like they did to Russia back in the 70's and 80's. You do realize the cold war was won by afghansitan not us, right?

        January 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm |
      • John

        I believe they should have handled Osama like our OBAMA did Gaddafi. Or like our OBAMA ultimately handled Osama. These invasions were a waste. Osama has been dead over a year and we are still losing our people there.

        January 9, 2013 at 12:34 am |
      • Ow

        steve, you big dummy
        Taliban are back- stronger than ever. Osama- if you believe the official story- was shacked up with our "friend" Pakistan. Our mission over there is pointless and endless. You need to do some research.

        January 9, 2013 at 12:35 am |
    • jamessavik

      9/11 was an engraved invitation to a world war. At one time support for retaliation was at 90%. It is too our shame that we lost interest and changed the channel.

      January 9, 2013 at 4:37 am | Reply
      • AM

        James, I don't believe we lost interest, we took the wrong approach. And got a personal grudge settled for Bushy, in the process, for no reason. If the Taliban want to rule Afghanistan to heck with 'em. It's a hell hole anyway. Now the 911 jerks, well that was simple. Covert, bribes and a tactical nuke... Cost .01 percent. American lives lost? Maybe a few... Wounded warriors, very few...Two completely unfunded and unnecessary wars? RIDICULOUS.

        January 9, 2013 at 9:03 am |
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