Official: Changes to Benghazi talking points made by intel community
US Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice on State of the Union on September 16
November 19th, 2012
07:32 PM ET

Official: Changes to Benghazi talking points made by intel community

By Pam Benson

The intelligence community - not the White House, State Department or Justice Department - was responsible for the substantive changes made to the talking points distributed for government officials who spoke publicly about the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, the spokesman for the director of national intelligence said Monday.

The unclassified talking points on Libya, developed several days after the the deadly attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, were not substantively changed by any agency outside of the intelligence community, according to the spokesman, Shawn Turner.

Republican criticism of the talking points intensified last Friday following a closed door hearing with former CIA Director David Petraeus.

Rep. Peter King, R-New York, told reporters after the hearing that the original talking parts drafted by the CIA had been changed and it was unclear who was responsible.

"The original talking points were much more specific about al Qaeda involvement and yet final ones just said indications of extremists," King said.

The September 11 attack resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

The unclassified talking points were first developed by the CIA at the request of the House Intelligence Committee, whose members wanted to know what they could say publicly about the Benghazi attack.

Benghazi talking points omitted link to al Qaeda

The initial version included information linking individuals involved in the attack to al Qaeda, according to a senior U.S. official familiar with the drafting of the talking points. But when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, there was a decision to change "al Qaeda" to "extremists." The official said the change was made for legitimate intelligence and legal reasons, not for political purposes.

"First, the information about individuals linked to al Qaeda was derived from classified sources," the official said. "Second, when links were so tenuous - as they still are - it makes sense to be cautious before pointing fingers so you don't set off a chain of circular and self-reinforcing assumptions. Third, it is important to be careful not to prejudice a criminal investigation in its early stages."

Some Republican members of Congress suggested the change came from within the Obama administration - from the White House, the Justice Department, or another government agency.

Turner, the spokesman for National Intelligence Director James Clapper, said that was not the case.

"The intelligence community made substantive, analytical changes before the talking points were sent to government agency partners for their feedback," Turner said, referring to the White House, Justice Department, State Department, Pentagon and FBI. "There were no substantive changes made to the talking points after they left the intelligence community," he said.

The House Intelligence Committee was not satisfied with Turner's statement.

"The statement released this evening by the DNI's spokesman regarding how the Intelligence Community's talking points were changed gives a new explanation that differs significantly from information provided in testimony to the Committee last week," said committee spokeswoman Susan Phalen. "Chairman Rogers looks forward to discussing this new explanation with Director Clapper as soon as possible to understand how the DNI reached this conclusion and why leaders of the Intelligence Community testified late last week that they were unaware of who changed the talking points."

The White House on Friday said it made only one change, substituting the word "mission" for "consulate."

The FBI requested a change in language which originally stated the U.S. "knew" Islamic extremists participated in the attack. According to a U.S. intelligence official the wording was changed to "there are indications" Islamic extremists participated.

Obama administration continues explanations on Benghazi decision-making

The drumbeat of criticism began early on with Republicans criticizing the Obama administration for publicly saying the attack grew out of a spontaneous protest against an anti Muslim video on the web even though the Republicans claim the administration knew it was a planned terrorist attack.

The harshest criticism has focused on Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, who used the talking points as the basis for comments she made on Sunday talk shows five days after the attack. During her appearances, Rice said a small number of people came to the mission in reaction to demonstrations occurring in Cairo over the anti-Muslim film, but the Benghazi protest was hijacked by armed extremists. She never mentioned terrorists.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, R-Michigan, said this isn't about parsing words. "There was some policy decisions made based on the narrative that was not consistent with the intelligence that we had. That's my concern," Rogers said last Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Former CIA Director Petraeus told lawmakers last Friday there were multiple streams of intelligence, some that indicated Ansar al Sharia was behind the attack, according to an official with knowledge of the situation. But other intelligence indicated the violence at the Benghazi mission was inspired by protests in Egypt over the anti Muslim video.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-California, told CNN on Monday that Petraeus explained why the talking points were changed.

"Gen. Petraeus made it clear that that change was made to protect classified sources of information, not to spin it, not to politicize it and it wasn't done at the direction of the white house. That really ought to be the end of it, but it isn't. So we have to continue to go around this merry go round, but at a certain point when all the facts point in a certain direction, we're going to have to accept them as they are and move on," Schiff said.

CNN's Dana Bash contributed to this report.

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  1. Mark

    Repubs are angrier at the president than the actual killers.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Reply
    • JBB

      Dems are angrier at the makers of a video than the acutal killers.

      See...generalizations are assinine, no matter which side they come from.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        That was pretty weak son. Try again

        November 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
      • JBB

        That's OK pops...I understand generalizations are right from the talking points playbook.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
  2. steelerzrule71

    A college educated white American-
    You neither know the truth nor can handle it.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      How many classes did you skip to go drinking?

      November 20, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Reply
      • A college educated white American male

        As a college graduate who has multiple degrees and honors, I should think that your continual posting and replying on numerous comments would prove that you are without a doubt the most intolerable, bloviating, neighbor that entire neighborhoods hate. You simply must become the dean at our graduate school since you have such eloquent remarks and exhibit a high standard of independent thought and tolerance. Now, wasn't that easy for you to hear the truth? Angry white American males are the dinosaurs of the 21st century. If we don't change our hateful ways, we will become extinct.

        November 20, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
    • Mark

      Show me some truth...I will wait

      November 20, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Reply
    • Ol' Yeller

      Making the deaths of some of our public employees into political fodder.... tsk, tsk...
      Name one time.... EVER, that republicans gave a rat's patootie about someone in the public sector!
      Man the hypocracy of you folks is amazing.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Reply
    • A college educated white American male

      Nice line from a "movie" . How quaint and yet so original! Again I will clarify for you. So long as someone controls you either by guns or by force, you will cease to have independent thought! I am rational and I listen to all aspects of a case. Apparently you are a follower. You follow what your buddies and your cultural mindset group spews to you. Your truth is what gets told to you. My truth is what I believe once I have assessed all the evidence and make a judgement call. This is the truth of what seperates me from you. You believe because you are forced to. I believe because I can have independent thought and am a rational thinker. Spew your hatred further so my point can be further proven.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:35 pm | Reply
  3. Cycleman52

    Just another attempted cover up. This in any case is not the info the president or Rice had. They knew exactly what had happened and continued to spew out the lies. IMPEACH
    I don't care to hear the BS about Repubs cutting the budget, We had help close enough and we had enough fore warning to either reenforce the embassy or evacuate them This is nothing but a failure of our President to protect our Ambassador.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      LMAO!!!!

      Impeach for what exactly?

      November 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      someones been watching to much Hannity.....

      November 20, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Reply
      • JBB

        If I had a dollar for everytime you mention Fox News, I think I could get this country out of debt. You're a little obsessed...

        November 20, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
      • Mark

        Are you obsessed with following me around? Are you my lil stalker?

        How cute!!!

        November 20, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • Jeremy

      I do agree with one part. The REAL injustice is what happened to those brave souls. Everyone is focusing on who called it what group and for what reason. WHO CARES what they said about who it was. How about just finding out why more wasn't done to prevent it. If it were one of my realives I would be OUTRAGED that the focus was on why it wasn't called a terrorist attack sooner. And shame on all of you that are shifting the focus to twist it into a political tool.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Reply
    • David

      You work that stupid like it's your job! The Libyan government also told Stevens and others that they should leave for a while. Help was sent. Write a letter to the Libyan government and ask them why the troops we sent were detained at the airport for hours instead of being rushed to help. Consider every aspect of what happen. Not just what you feel is important.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Reply
    • Mark Baird

      And Ronald Reagan failed to protect the Marines, Clinton failed to protect Americans, and Bush failed to protect Americans. The world is a messy place. Life is not perfect. Get over it.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Reply
    • Donna

      The statement and changes were handled the way all government agencies, big, small, handle communications. There was no cover up. They were instead trying to prevent classifying something one way that could just as well actually be something else. Err on the side of caution. I was in government communications for 40 years, from school districts, to city, county and state governments. Republican and Democratic leadership. Doesn't matter. Cautious communications cause less controversy and are less destructive. If it wasn't for the dramatic Republican hatred of all things Democrat, this would be a done issue. It was handled professionally and the way it should have been.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Reply
    • ELH37

      "I don't care to hear the BS about Repubs cutting the budget, We had help close enough and we had enough fore warning to either reenforce the embassy or evacuate them".

      Of course any response taken would have cost 10 times as much money than funding the original budgetary request would have...oh, and 4 Americans would still be alive. But, hey, you don't want to hear about it.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Reply
    • Roger

      Impeach? Don't be silly. Investigat then, if warranted, impeach but all you or anyone else gets is news reprots. Do you for one second think that's accurate enough data to impeach from? If you don't understand how your government works then refrain from commenting on it. What are the issues? Whether the attack was preventable based on previous intel. Whether the government did not respond to the attack when it should and why. And whether a cover-up was conducted and way. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. Who cares whether Rice was accurate or not? It's States issue, not the UN! She was thrown under the bus for some reason. I want to know what that reason was. So stop with the ignorant comments that distract from the real questions. Let the grown up work.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:39 pm | Reply
  4. Dan

    So 21/2 months after the attack in Benghazi somebody /anybody gets assigned to take the blame to make it all look right.
    Americans don't get it , this is not about being a Democrat or Republican , it is about being an American and expecting credible and clear answers from the President and his administration.
    You will be called a tinpot monarchy from the 3rd world if you don't watch it.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      The President has given clear answers.
      Are you actually following this story or just getting your "facts" from Fox?

      November 20, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Reply
      • Dan

        There you go and prove my point , you are not able to state anything without blaming it on the opposing party affiliation.
        That makes you narrow minded and lacking intelligence.
        I rely for my news on the international press , more accurate and factual , you should try it.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
      • Mark

        I said nothing about another party. Try again. you have made no point.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • Mark Baird

      This is no more then a pack of dogs and the waging tongues dripping with the blood of the collective ego of the right. No different then when liberals do it. This is a stupid debate of who said what and when.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Reply
      • A college educated white American male

        Waging tongues? So. . . These tongues were betting on something? I think he meant wagging. Because that would be a sight to see two tongues betting on who said what and then trying to collect on that bet. Half the commenting public would argue about which tongue said what and when.

        November 20, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
  5. Sly

    It is sad that Republicans played politics with Embassy security, and now have the blood of 4 more dead Embassy workers.

    Next time President Obama requests additional security for the Libya Embassy, listen to him and SIGN THE BILL.

    President Obama warned you this would happen if you did not sign the bill ... but you were too busy running Herman Cain for President.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Herms 999 plan would have solved this

      November 20, 2012 at 5:02 pm | Reply
    • JBB

      Just like 2005: During Condoleeza Rice confirmation hearings....In addition, the State Department is continuing an efficient program to upgrade security at U.S. missions around the world. Even though Congress has failed to provide all the funds requested by the president to strengthen the State Department and U.S. foreign policy capabilities, this committee is enthusiastic about the progress that you have made so far.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Reply
    • HughRHigh

      This speaks the total failure of the Obama administration. Deceit, wrapped in a lie, packaged with intent to defraud. There is no low too low. No lie too small or great. A Washington cesspool.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Reply
      • Jeremy

        Uh, that's politics. Do you honestly think ANY of them can be trusted? And as hard as this may be to admit, MAYBE JUST MAYBE we shouldn't know EVERYTHING that goes on, that's how secrets get leaked and people get killed. How do you think we keep finding the terrorist leadership....uh snitches. It sure isn't because we get lucky all the time and stumble on em like daisies it the park.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
      • ELH37

        Let me get this straight. Obama asks for funding to increase security for our men and women serving in the State department. That funding is denied by Congress, and you are trying to argue that this is a failure of Obama's? You do realize that Congress, not the President, dictates spending, right.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • JBB

      Congress has appropriated less money for the State Department than requested in every year since Fiscal 2007...that would be both side of the aisle. Democrats and Republicans alike...let's not try to spin it like only one side plays politics.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Reply
  6. atimoth

    At what point can we all agree that "extremists" are the same thing as "terrorists". Why the hell would it matter in the long run what term was used? I think we are all intelligent enough to answer this question: When people attack compound and murder foreign officials, or people for that matter, aren't they providing terror in extreme measures? As a culture/society, we Americans nit-pick the littlest of details to disparage others at our own demise.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Reply
    • Sly

      Good point. During the Iraq war we referred to the enemy as 'insurgents' and 'terrorists'.

      In reality, they were good, civilian, freedom-fighters – fighting the foreign invader to try to gain freedom.

      If Iranians invaded Dallas, raped and murdered 18-year old Dallas Cheerleaders, and placed armed soldiers on every street corner, and went into Texas houses and wiped out entire families, would we call ourselves 'terrorists' if we fought back?

      November 20, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Reply
  7. Jake

    Susan Rice spoke AFTER the events had taken place based on talking points that didn't include the words "terrorist" in it and Republicans who cut funding to embassies just 2 years ago, have their Depends all in a twist over that.

    Condoleezza Rice spoke to congress to convince them that we needed to invade Iraq to get rid of their WMD's BEFORE we invaded Iraq. As a result of her and other Republicans' urging, thousands of troops died along with hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians on top of billions of dollars spent that we didn't have because of Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, only to find out that Iraq never really had any WMD's as the UN originally determined. So where's all the anger from conservatives at with Condoleezza Rice? They instead were quick to blame "intellegence".

    Conservatives are "angry" not because they really cared about those guys killed in Bengazi. Conservatives are acting like those guys who cheat on their wives/girlfriends; instead of being accountable for their actions they are going to instead be all angry at their wives/girlfriends to compensate for that guilt they don't want to deal with. You know the types? All suspecious of their wives or girlfriends because they think they're just like them and that they'd cheat if given the chance. You see, conservatives are acting out because they'd rather be angry at "liberals" and Obama and in a way blame them for everything, instead of being accountable for their own mistakes and deceptions. Conservatives believe themselve to be righteous and the definition of "true Americans". Their ego will not allow them to admit when their wrong, but they'll be happy to lecture everyone else about taking accountability. No different from the guy who never does jack at work yet he's so keen on identifying everyone who doesn't do any work.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Reply
  8. steelerzrule71

    Libtards, the foremost experts on intelligence matters, lololol. So what you're really saying is that CIA covered up their ties to al qaeda affiliates in libya, whom they were trying to use to oust Assad in Syria, even after they destroyed the Benghazi Consulate and murdered Stevens, et. al? So, this isn't another Obama scandal on the order of Iran-contra or fast and furious by itself?

    November 20, 2012 at 4:56 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      LMAO!!!!!!

      Get some education son. It will help you make informed decisions and not be so gullible in front of the Fox News channel.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Reply
  9. Jake

    Conservatives hate facts because it never validates their biases. To them the truth is how they "feel" about something not what it actually is in reality.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Reply
    • Richard Conn Henry

      So true!

      November 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Reply
    • Anonymous

      criticizing biases in a clearly very biased comment makes you look pretty stupid.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Reply
  10. Mark

    psssss. hey repubs..this is an irrelevant issue....oh, and you lost the election. Try to be men about it, ok?

    November 20, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Reply
    • AndyInAtl

      You should've told that to libs during W years.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        We arent talking about W. Try to stay on topic

        November 20, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
  11. Jake

    The folks who would know what happened explained it to Republicans and Republicans did not like the answer because the answer didn't validate their bias of which was the motive for this whole "investigation" (aka circus) to begin with. There was nothing there that made Obama look bad so Republicans didn't like that and are going to keep asking until they get the answer they agree with regardless if its the truth or not. Maybe the janitor in the CIA who voted for Romney can make up something and Republicans can use that as talking points for Fox News?

    November 20, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Reply
    • Now Why 2012

      Now, what janitor in their right mind would have voted for Romney. Come on.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Reply
  12. Stephen

    Republicans don't believe anything unless it comes from there echo chambers.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Reply
  13. Lynda

    "The original talking points were much more specific about al Qaeda involvement and yet final ones just said indications of extremists," King said. The September 11 attack resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. The unclassified talking points were first developed by the CIA at the request of the House Intelligence Committee, whose members wanted to know what they could say publicly about the Benghazi attack.

    And who did they ask for what could be said publicly?? Your 'freebie' president??

    November 20, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Learn how the system truly works before making asinine statments. I dont want you to look foolish

      November 20, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Reply
    • PaganObservation

      Actually, the talking points were routed from the CIA to other intelligence agencies and the House Intelligence Committee prior to making its way to the White House. All the changes that were made to those points were done between the CIA and the House Intelligence Committee.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Reply
      • JC

        Right, pagan.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
    • JC

      No, dear. Just read the article.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Reply
    • Ol' Yeller

      And doesn't the House Intelligence Committee consists of several republicans (I know that is a like a huge oxymoron, heavy on the moron, but true).
      Sooooo, it was the republicans fault?
      Anyone surprised?

      November 20, 2012 at 4:46 pm | Reply
  14. JOSH

    I soughta remember another Rice who insisted that there were weapons of mass destruction and even wrote an editorial in the news ..hmmmm I remember being warned about mushroom clouds...mmm I remember waching Cheney are news shows claiming Iraq had something to do with 9/11 quoting news articles from the New York Times..and I remember how we found out that he had planted the very same stories he quoted...I remember that after we were lied into a war that cost thousands of lives that Condolizza Rice was still confirmed as secretary of state...and the democrats did not ask for the head of George Bush....soughta of a double standard but of course that time Fox News and the right wing did everything they could to deceive us and call anyone who dissented unpatriotiic

    November 20, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Reply
  15. steelerzrule71

    Even conceding the newest, though questionable MSDNC cover story, to wit: that the CIA unilaterally obscured al qaeda involvement in Benghazi, there is still a scandal, which would be on the order of Iran-Contra: that Obama armed Libyan Al Qaeda affiliates to take out Assad in Syria and then twisted intel to obscure its role in the Benghazi attack.

    Pick your poison, libtards-history will judge this as one in a continuing pattern of destroyed embassies/consulates and dead ambassadors occurring in the last 3 Democrat presidential administrations (carter 1, clinton 2, obama 1=4 and 2 dead ambassadors and many more staff). It is really the appeasement gene in the Democrat DNA (excluding Truman, Kennedy). It is why Clinton did nothing after al qaeda bombed the WTC in 1993 killed 19 troops in Somalia, destroyed our embassies and naval vessels in the 1990's. Then, Democrats have the gall to blame bush for 9/11 when the oval office luggage hadn't even been unpacked.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      huh? Can someone translate this diarrhea for me?

      November 20, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Reply
      • Walt Merritt

        I'll take a crack at it for you.

        Forget everything that happened concerning the Middle East under Reagan and the Shrubs watch. Forget the fact that the foreign policies of dear Saint Ronnie created both Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Forget the fact that the economic policies of dear Saint Ronnie and followed by the Shrubs created over $15.2 trillion of our current National Debt.

        All that you must know is that Carter(6 letters) + Clinto(6 letters) + nObama (6 letters) = 666 even though I had to move the n in Clinton to in front of Obama to equal nObama. But the signs are clear that the Democrats are the anti-Christ and will bring about the end times in 2012 predicted by the Mayans who were heathens and devils we had to destroy in the name of our God because only we are right and everyone else is wrong.

        Does that explain it simply enough? Please excuse me while I invest more of my money in Reynolds Wrap stock I predict a big boom in the Tin Foil hat industry over the next 4 years in the Red States.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
      • Mark

        Thank you for the translation. You are a good American.

        Thank you for the stock tip too!

        November 20, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
      • Right Wing Wacko

        It's Palin Speak...you have to be one of us to understand it.

        November 20, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • Mark

      GW didnt unpack his luggage for almost a year? wow!

      November 20, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Reply
      • JBB

        Love the irony...you're complaining that someone tried to pass the buck to Clinton because Bush was only in office for less than a year. That argument sounds so familiar to me...hmmmm, what could it be?

        November 20, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
      • Mark

        Do you have reading comprehension issues? Try reading all the above, slowly and then type your comment again.

        Your Welcome!!

        November 20, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
      • Mike in Denver

        JCC, I can't make this any plainer than this: Either every president can follow a chain of events back to their predecessor (not that it makes them not guilty of apathy, like W being apathetic towards the "planes" memo in August of 2001). It's what they do with the situation that determines how effective they are. Bush handed off an economy circling the drain and Obama's policies, though expensive, have turned the economy around.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  16. John

    The suggestions by DNI, the FBI, and WHite House all seem completely reasonable......Why does this House insist on making this into a Circus, when it should Only be a collaborative Bi Partisan private discussion about our Embassy strategy and how to improve our response next time, if possible....The GOP will self destruct if that don't switch the subject to the fiscal cliff and the the war in the middle east.........

    November 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Reply
    • PaganObservation

      What was said afterward is completely irrelevant to what happened in Benghazi and how to prevent such occurances from happening again. This committee has failed to do what they were initially set out to do. Instead of finding ways to, as you put it, speed up response times or put policies in place that can allow for additional security, they have focused too much on unclassified talking points that were meant for the people. However, this inquiry does not affect the avoidance of the fiscal cliff because other Senators and Representatives are handling that issue.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Reply
  17. Al

    The country should not be so mean to incompetent people after all Rice was only being the parrot of the Obama administration. It's not her fault that she can't see things for what they are without being told what to think.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Do you have any clue what is going on with this story?

      November 20, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Reply
  18. taylokus

    How many government workers in hot spots are feeling great about the administration's willingness to protect them? I wouldn't want to get between their "political expediency" and an rpg, I can tell you.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Reply
      • taylokus

        Because of cuts no help was available? Anywhere? Anybody? Nothing?

        November 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
  19. Sagebrush Shorty

    More people getting thrown under the Obama bus.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Reply
  20. MashaSobaka

    It's time for the Republicans to stop capitalizing on the deaths of their fellow citizens, accept that they do not have an argument, and move on. We have huge problems that need fixing and you people obsessing over something like this is NOT helping.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Reply
  21. John Cram

    Well fine but Obama is still on the hook for Jimmy Hoffa.

    Why do we put up with all these Republicans that everyday WASTE AMERICAN TIME AND TAX PAYER MONEY?

    Obama is the PRESIDENT – fall in line and do YOUR job – stop trying to make stuff up....

    November 20, 2012 at 3:59 pm | Reply
    • Libacryte

      The same reason we put up with leftists who couldn't come to terms with bush being president. So you should take some of your own advice & shut up & do YOUR job.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:06 pm | Reply
      • CommonSensed

        Looks like you both need to ST F U and get on with your lives.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
      • Mark

        Was that your big boy voice libacryte?

        November 20, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
      • Anyone

        Actually, Democrats didn't have to make stuff up to make Bush look bad. These attempts to discredit President Obama are just pathetic.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
    • B nutty

      Funny you talk about republicans wasting money, ironic coming from a liberal, you should be crying about the debt cieling and food stamps.

      I have never seen so many people cry and moan about rebulicans, it's amazing, just non stop whining all day long. I never knew reading CNN makes these people better equipped to run our country than people who handle it everyday for a living and actually make these decisions.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Reply
  22. Mark

    Benghazi – the shiny object for republicans

    November 20, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Reply
  23. Mark

    Since this Benghazi conspiracy is dying down, what is the next one repubs?

    November 20, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Reply
    • NoKidding

      LOL the next one from the repubs will be: the CIA are lying! They want to see evidence that the CIA actually DID make the changes, etc...etc... Unbelievable! These are the same people who didn't utter a word when there were questions why GW Bush didn't pay attention to warnings that Al Qaeda was plotting to attack the US; when there were attacks to our diplomatic locations around the world when GW Bush was president; These are the same people who never screamed fire when they passed deficit after deficit spendings under GW Bush...No wonder why they lost, and they didn't lose by a "squeaker", they've lost big time!!

      November 20, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Reply
      • CalmDownPeople

        Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe from this feed? If I have to see one more ridiculous, ignorant partisan generalization or childish name-calling barb jam up my inbox, I will ship myself to Benghazi.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • Ol' Yeller

      Now hold on just a goldurn minute... these resmuglicans on here are all screaming for someone's head over this Benghazi thing and seem to want to make it out to be some vast left wing conspiracy to take over the world and parts of Florida... am I wrong, or was not the resmuglicans on the security council given the same talking points? Why are not/did they not step forward and say hey, wait a minute... here's what really happened...
      It's because it is a matter of National Security (remember... your boys used this excuse at every turn, every day, for 8 friggin' years). So, should we just throw out classified information the second it is delivered just so you can have some ammunition against the President (now I sound like Ann Romney hee, hee)

      November 20, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Reply
  24. Grape Drink

    *yawn* People are still talking about this?...

    November 20, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Reply
  25. JName

    James Clapper taking one for the team, and with Schiff. Protecting sources is great, coming up with a movie for political gain and now saying protecting sources not so great.

    November 20, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Reply
  26. Mellowfellow

    Liberals are tolerant, until you don't believe the same as them.

    November 20, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Practicing for your Rush Limbaugh audition?

      November 20, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Reply
    • SeanNJ

      Being "tolerant" does not mean we have to "suffer fools lightly." If you have something substantive to offer, I'm all ears. If all you have is conspiracy theories and rambling diatribes, then please go away and let the grown ups talk.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Reply
    • Jim

      Liberals can't tolerate ignorance nor bigotry. You are right.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:06 pm | Reply
  27. Mark

    If the repubs actually put this much effort into their jobs instead of lying this country would be all the better and light years ahead of everyone else.

    November 20, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Reply
    • LeeBo

      You actually meant to 'If the 47% could have jobs that contribute to society, the economy, and the tax base ... Givers, not takers.'

      November 20, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        Do you have any thoughts of your own? Or just shout what Fox told you?

        November 20, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
      • Fresser

        Hey LeeBo, STFU. My mother and father worked for 50 years before they retired. They don't pay income taxes now because they collect a meager retirement. They paid taxes their entire working lives but are now art of the 47% you spit on.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
      • CommonSensed

        Leebo – You do realize your false view of the 47% includes military personnel and retired folks who worked all their lives? Take off your tinfoil hat and do some research before typing.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
      • Now Why 2012

        Why, are you hiring? last time I saw a line at a job fair, every last one of them looked like Obama Voters.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
      • last wac

        Do you have any idea at all who the 47% are? Do a little research. Many of the 47% are retired seniors...so your'e thinking that my 83 year old retired police officer father is a taker not a giver? Or then there is my niece, she is part of the 47%, a single mom, working full-time and going to a prestigous college on an academic scholarship almost full-time so she can make a better life for her child and herself, boy she is a real lazy good-for-nothing isn't she. You need to wake-up to the world around you and possibly get some clue as to what you talking about before spout your hatefulness.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • PaganObservation

      Personally I think that most of the problems could be eliminated by setting a service limitation of 8 to 12 years for Representatives and Senators. The biggest problem is that these guys make a career out of this and forget about the people who they are obligated to serve.

      November 20, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        I would think most people would agree. Why do we allow them to serve forever? Look at McCain...he has lost all touch with reality and is on a power trip all the time

        November 20, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
      • JBB

        It's amazing to see a group of people with an approval rating of around 10% continually get re-elected. People are usually OK with their represetative because they really don't know much about them...

        November 20, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • DH

      And if you dumba$$ dems would get your head out of your a$$ this country wouldn't be circling the drain as it is now. If you think that overrunning our embassy and killing the ambassador is no big thing then you and those who think like you are the problem. Why do the repubs have to drag this out bit by bit? Why doesn't your prez step up and tell the truth for a change?

      November 20, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Reply
      • PaganObservation

        I think everyone wants to find out what happened in the weeks/months leading up to the attack so that we can prevent it from happening again. The problem is that this committee is so focused on what happened in the weeks after the attack that finding ways to prevent it from happening again have gone by the way side. Also, embassies fall under the jurisdiction of the State Department and Hilary has already stated that she gave the order to stand down. Yes, the President is Commander in Chief and is ultimately responsible, but he is only going to hear about the attack, not anything leading up to it.

        By the way, I am an independent.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
      • VEW2012

        What you never heard of security and the reasons why some security issues are not presented immediately to the public? Telling everyone immediately could have put even more people in harms way; especially those operatives working on the inside who identified the correct group responsible.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
      • Now Why 2012

        What differnce does it make to you. You're just gonna call him a liar anyway and blame any and every bad event that happens on him as well. Thats why everyone knows you're a Republitard.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  28. Mark

    I just love the way repubs make stuff up

    November 20, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Reply
    • JBB

      You're one clever ( )o( ) ...I just made that up.

      November 20, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        um, ok

        November 20, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
      • JBB

        Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah

        November 20, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Mark

      You arent very good at this, are you son?

      November 20, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Reply
      • LeeBo

        Another baby daddy?

        November 20, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
      • JBB

        Are you making a gender racial comment by calling me son? What makes you think I'm male? Profile much?

        November 20, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
      • Mark

        sorry son, its an expresson. Calm down Francis.

        I know you have lost all arguments today but try to have some dignity about it, ok son?

        November 20, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
      • JBB

        Sure thing pops...arguments? Huh? I thought you were just reading from the book of kool-aid all day.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
      • Mark

        ah, Kool-aid. The infamous republican retort. I still dont get but whatever floats your boat and makes you feel like a 6th grade insult team, more power to ya son.

        Im sorry I keep embarassing you. I will stop

        November 20, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
      • JBB

        Replied the hypocrite. You made reference to kool-aid drinking earlier towards another poster...I guess it's hard to keep track of all your talking points throughout the day. It's ok pops, I won't hold it against you, but I mist my 6th grade englist clas becuz of you...

        November 20, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • LeeBo

      Better than what your Mom did when she made you up.

      November 20, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        Thank you for your juvenile response republican

        November 20, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  29. Bryan

    I think if the GOP worked as hard to find ways to help improve the economy as they have trying to find ways to discredit the president, the country would be better off. Yeah, I'll tell you what "gift" I want. I want the "gift" of DEMOCRACY that actually is owed to us because we paid for it with our taxes. That's when the losing team shuts the flock up and decides that the most important thing now is to work with the winning team for the sake of the country.

    November 20, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Reply
    • Mike500

      Well 53% of us paid for democracy with our taxes. The other 47% get it as a 'gift'.

      November 20, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Reply
      • Bryan

        Yes that makes perfect sense. The country has been able to get along with only 53% of people doing all the work and paying taxes. That must be the same math that applies to this word problem: "Romney wants to be president. Right now he has a deficit. He cuts government revenue from by 20%. Then he spends an extra 10 billion dollars on defense. How many trillions of dollars towards the deficit has Romney created?"

        November 20, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
      • Jeff

        Actually, the other 47% pay quite a bit in taxes, too, but keep parroting the Romney talking points instead of attempting to educate yourself.

        As a Republican, I am emabarressed by how my party has become the red herring machine, but when I read comments such as yours, I know why that is the case.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
      • JBB

        Jeff – 46.4% or 76 million individuals or families paid no federal income taxes in 2011. They pay other taxes such as sales tax,state,local, etc.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
      • Michael

        I'm sure our servicemen in Afghanistan are happy to hear that their tax-free pay is a "gift". Do us all a favor and crawl back in your hole.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
      • kevin

        You are a moron! I know many of the 47% that paid with their blood! Now are home on disability! I bet you have never paid taxes in your life..probably sit home jakkin it to Rush.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  30. Mark

    Republicans sure are gullible. I should sell them some Amway

    November 20, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Of course being an Obama supporter you'd actually have to be employed to do so...

      November 20, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Reply
      • Bryan

        No Mark, since I'm an Obama supporter you should actually just give me some Amway. I could put it under my Christmas tree along with all the other "free gifts" I got from Obama for voting. Just think, I was going to sit home on November 6th and play "Monopoly" with my food stamps but then I got the "Obama Minority Gifts" catalog in the mail! Did you know that if you're a minority and you voted in a swing state that you got a snow mobile?!!!

        November 20, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • LeeBo

      They don't get it 'free' like you do?

      November 20, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Reply
      • kevin

        Leebo moron..the phone program was started under Reagan!

        November 20, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • Mark

      What is "free stuff"? The latest talking point from Fox?

      November 20, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Reply
      • LeeBo

        One example: 17 miillion free cell phones.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
      • Mark

        Are you talking about the program Reagan started in 1984?

        November 20, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
      • Mark

        But it’s the right that are going to end up looking like the ignorant fools. What Limbaugh, Malzberg - and likely the majority of the million people who viewed the video - didn’t know was that these “Obama Phones” are actually a creation of their beloved Ronald Reagan, who began the program in 1984.

        Actually called the “Lifeline program,” the legislation permits some households to receive a free landline under Congress’s rationale that "telephone service provides a vital link to emergency services, government services and surrounding communities."

        That idea dates back to 1934, under the Communications Act, but Reagan was the first to actually implement the legislation. The program grew under President Clinton, who recognized the advent of the newfangled new technology of cordless phones and expanded it to include cell phones.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
      • Mark

        No response Leebo? Did I school you to hard?

        LMAO!!!!

        Now, maybe next time you will actually think before posting

        November 20, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
      • ghostriter

        Thank you for attempting to end the Obama phone Rush-point. However, it will not resonate to Conservative Island.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
      • Libacryte

        First off, gee, I didn't know they had cell phones in 1984. Secondly, so you're actually saying 2 wrongs make a right? Just because someone may have done something, for one, that doesn't make it right, and for 2, that doesn't mean we should keep doing it.

        Giving "free" stuff to people is unsustainable. PERIOD. you can argue the finer points all day, but when the Government spends MORE money than it can possibly take in, therein lies the problem. And many of you just say "tax the wealthy more" – well, the fact is, there are NOT enough "wealthy" to tax – you can tax ALL 500 of the Fortune 500 companies at 100% and that is STILL NOT ENOUGH.

        The problem isn't "taxing" – the problem is spending. Perhaps one day you will realize this, before it is too late.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
  31. Realty of POTUS

    NO!! We don't buy it and WE DON'T WANT RICE AS SECRETARY OF STATE!!!!!!

    November 20, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Who is "we"? You and the KKK?

      November 20, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Reply
      • LeeBo

        Wonder why Rice won't testify before Congress. She is hiding something. If she can't stand the heat, she should not be in the kitchen (i.e., Sec of State position).

        November 20, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Ken

      You don't get a vote, unless you're a Senator, so who cares what you want?

      November 20, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Reply
  32. Michael

    You must be talking about the same "death panels" that were being run by the health insurance companies before Obamacare. I guess you're one of the fools who thinks that before Obamacare health insurance companies paid 100% of all health insurance claims regardless of medical necessity. You wouldn't be a medical doctor by any chance, would you?

    November 20, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Reply
  33. Bugmetoo

    Still the president talked about the spontaneous protest for two weeks, even to the UN! What
    an uninformed idiot. A disgrace to the presidency, again!

    November 20, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      You should try and keep up with the story and follow along. The Fox News cliff notes are a bit biased

      November 20, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Reply
      • LeeBo

        You are the biased one. It's self evident with all your name calling.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • Mark

      You are more angry at the president than the actual killers.

      The brainwashing has gone well for you

      November 20, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Reply
      • Mike500

        The President was more angry with the video maker than the actual killers. Just look at how many statements condemned the video maker from Obama and Clinton.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Mark

      I dont see any name calling. Feeling extra paranoid today son?

      November 20, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Reply
      • LeeBo

        You my baby daddy?

        November 20, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  34. CitizenAJ

    How long we going to talk about this s@*t in the media? What do you want republicans? You lost the election, your candidate did not win. Time to stop politicizing and move on to finding the perpertrators of this act that killed four Americans. Holding hearings to assign fault for a terrorist attack is ludicrous. What is it accomplishing? Lets do a lessons learned so it will not happen again, at least minimize it from happening again, it is an unstable world we live in, and move forward together as one government, pursuing U.S. enemies both foreign and domestic.

    November 20, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Reply
    • gordyb

      Totally agree, the focus should be on the bad guys. I am confident the president has in motion all our resources to find and bring them to justice. Maybe this distraction is good in that the press isn't
      snooping into what is being done to find them.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Reply
    • JBB

      How can you do a "lessons learned" without an investigation? The investigation is needed not to find blame, but to find answers as to why other foreign embassies in Benghazi were evactuated do to terror attack fears, but ours was not evacuated. Why were requests for additional security not answered...did they make it to the correct people? Let's get the investigation started and over with.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Reply
      • PaganObservation

        That is what this committee was supposed to do in the first place. And for the most part, that is what they were doing. However, somewhere down the road, they got side tracked into pursuing everything that took place in the weeks following the attack and turned this into a political circus. They need to get their heads out of their rear ends and bring justice to those who committed this attack and find ways to prevent it from happening again.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
  35. wazuri77

    If the republicans had fussed this much over the performance of the other Rice during the Bush Jr. tennure, we would have saved 2T, 4500 lives on our side and over 150,000 on Iraqi side

    November 20, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Good point

      November 20, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Reply
    • gordyb

      I hate to raise this issue but it begs the question:
      The GOP has attacked the black president for four years
      The GOP has attacked the black attorney general for four years
      The GOP is now attacking the black US Representative to the UN.
      The GOP has not attacked Hilary?
      Do you see a pattern in this?

      November 20, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
      • Joe

        Yes. The pattern is that you are racist. Maybe you should seek help. Don't worry about the Republicans they will be just fine.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
      • tarao316

        You must be too young to remember the Clinton years. Save the rascist rants, if you want to be in politics and play with the big boys you have to have tough skin. I mean seriously if you screw up and get ripped over it, take it like an adult not point the finger at everyone else for your shortcomings.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  36. CommonVoice

    They will NOT either "put up" or "shut up".

    They simply CAN'T. After all, what "else" does the GOP have? This is all they got.

    They will take this all the way to 2016 (just like they did with the "birth certificate" in the last four years).

    November 20, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Reply
    • CommonVoice

      This was actually in reply to "Jack's mail" a few down the list. Mistakenly I posted it independently.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Reply
  37. Theresa

    Ok, so the talking points didn't contain all the information that was known at the time. Well, an investigation was going on and maybe the intelligence community didn't want the bad guys to know how much they knew in order to protect their sources. The real problem and embarrassment for the White House is that too many people were talking that should not have been talking in the first place.

    November 20, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      ...Yet before Bin Laden's body hit the ground, Obama was on TV. He couldn't wait to parade around with the news and could have cared less about the MASSIVE intelligence we would have gained. I'm not buying that the admin was all of a sudden changing the story because of this.

      It's all BS. They got caught trying to protect the President and now it's just stories to cover themselves.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Reply
  38. IceT

    Is this what Obama meant when he said, "I am ultimately responsible, the buck stops with me."?
    It's one thing to say it, it's quite another to actually take responsibility. If Obama didn't know about this, that's even worse than if he did & lied about it .. who's in charge anyway?

    November 20, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Reply
    • Michael

      I take it that YOU think that Obama should take responsibility for the changes to the taliking points even though he did not make them. You need to tighten your tin-foil hat chin strap.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Reply
      • swmatlgen7

        If Bush was responsible for EVERYTHING and ANYTHING done during his administration....why do you not hold Obama to the same level? Unreal. It's like some cooky repub makes a stupid remark regarding rape and the Libs pin it to Romney. Yet when an Obama appointed person makes a mistake the Libs still refuse to hold Obama responsible.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
      • ghostriter

        swmatlgen7, you guys don't want to blame Bush for 9/11 or the recession. Both of which happened on his watch. Heck, you silly conservatives were blaming Obama for the unemployment numbers in Jan 2009.

        You guys haven't taken responsibility for anything since 2000. Please keep the whining to where it is most effective. On Fox.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • DRavneFoncell

      Yes, all you want is like the other White folk want, something to be done wrong by President Baslckinstien! You bigoted pigs deshonor all, go watch Fox news, that's your mental state network of fools.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Reply
      • DrJack

        Racist much?

        November 20, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • PaganObservation

      When he makes that statement, he is basically taking resposibility for the State Department's decision to stand down. He is Commander in Chief and is ultimately responsible for anything that happens, much like the CEO is responsible for a company, even though he didn't have direct knowledge or influence on the decision. Think about it from a business perspective. If the Chief Operations Officer makes a decision, the CEO is responsible for the outcome of that decision regardless of whether or not they knew about it or had any influence in the decision making process.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Reply
    • smwyowl

      The key difference is that, unlike most GOP leaders, Obama knows when to keep his mouth shut.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Reply
      • JBB

        So much for "transparency"

        November 20, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • IceT

      The point is anyone of any party of any gender of any race can SAY they take responsibility, but it's meaningless unless you actuall DO take responsibilty .. get it?
      If you're still arguing political "teams" here, you need to grow up and "take responsibility" for being honest, fair and resonable.

      November 20, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Reply
      • PaganObservation

        What team are you talking about? I am an independent and have not team. You asked a question and I answered it plain and simple. And I would say that he is taking responsibility by finding a new Secretary of State, since Hilary was the one who made the call to stand down. The point of this entire committee is supposed to be figuring out what happened leading up to the attack, which Hilary answered, and putting policy in place to prevent such occurances from happening again. The problem is that you can't put policy in place if you are focusing on things that took place AFTER the attack.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
  39. Jack

    Wow. A few loud Republicans want the changes to have been made at the White House so bad they can taste it. An old cliche but when the top intelligence officer says the intel community made the changes in question and why, the politicians in effect call him a liar?

    I am sure soon enough he will be in front of the committee saying the same thing. After which the members will either have to accept what he says, or charge him with perjury. Then they will have to put up or shut up.

    November 20, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Reply
    • Bugmetoo

      Your a fool if you don't think they were made at the white house. Took them all this
      time to work out another lie.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Reply
  40. rep

    So basically the Obama administration said *exactly* what the intelligence committee told them to. And then they waited a measly 2 weeks for more detailed intel to come in before changing the story. And the GOP is complaining about what now??? Good grief. Can we vote these idiots out already??

    November 20, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Reply
    • IceT

      Which idiots?

      November 20, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Reply
      • gordyb

        The GOP idiots.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • Michael

      So, I guess you believe that Obama Administation officials were supposed to announce publicly what was in the classified talking points which it provided to Congress, incluiding the Republican House of Representatives. You are living proof that Republicans are idiots.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Reply
      • smwyowl

        Exactly right.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
  41. josh rogen

    the parallels to Watergate are astounding, right down to the comments from the presidents supporters. I've got a feeling what we've heard so far is just the tip of the iceberg it took 2 years to get Nixon so this isn't going away anytime soon.

    November 20, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Reply
    • gordyb

      You are so not informed about the watergate and Nixon. You are dreaming if you think this will last much longer. There is nothing here but wishful thinking for Obama haters. Bottom line, you lost the election, he will be a two term president, he will get to nominate the next SCOTUS vacancy, Obamacare is here to stay, the GOP is a complete mess, the Tea Party is falling apart. You can move on or stay in your alternate reality world.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Reply
    • Michael

      Another Republican who if you'd put his brain in a bird, the bird would fly backwards!

      November 20, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Reply
      • VEW2012

        No... it wouldn't have enough sense to get off the ground.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
  42. Mark

    How is that birth cert conspiracy coming along repubs?

    November 20, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Reply
    • JBB

      Old news...is this what you consider moving "forward"?

      November 20, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        Nope, just making fun of you and your party.

        Kinda makes you mad, doesnt it?

        November 20, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
      • El Flaco

        Now come on, JBB. You were yelling 'birth certificate' a couple of years ago. You were yelling 'death panels' a year before that. Now it's Benghazi and you are toeing the party line yet again.

        Next year it will be "Obama supports forced abortions, unless the child if biracial."

        November 20, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
      • CommonVoice

        Benghazi is already old – at least for those who are following the news.

        It is time for YOU to "move forward".

        November 20, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
      • JBB

        Good grief...you two are comical. I couldn't care less about death panels and birth certificates...those were nonsense from the beginning. Making me mad? More like ROTFLMFOA....

        November 20, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
      • JBB

        CommonVoice – if Benghazi is old news, then why is Sentate Intelligence Committee leader Diane Feinstein (D) asking for an investigation? Obviously, elected officials on both sides of the aisle want answers. I don't agree with how republicans are going about with an acusatory tone, but an investigation needs to occur, so that some sort of closure can be given to those American families who lost loved ones on that day. In my opinion, the American people owe it to those families to ensure a thorough investigation occurs.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • El Flaco

      Death Panels.
      Kenyan
      Birth Certificate
      Obama is the Antichrist
      Cadillac Driving Welfare Queens
      "Free" markets
      Closet Muslim
      Cutting taxes increases revenue
      WMDs in Iraq "No Doubt"
      Bin Laden in Afghanistan "No Doubt"
      Kindergarten Teaching Union Thugs
      Pedophile federal agents groping screaming children in airports
      Fast & Furious
      Obama-phones (free phone program was created in the Reagan Administration)
      Barnie Frank caused the world-wide Great Recession
      All scientists who assert that global-warming is real are socialists and communists.
      Obama allowed Gen. Petraeus to put his hoo-hoo in that psycho broad’s binkie

      All global media corporations have been in a communist (before 1991)/socialist (after 1991) conspiracy to defame Conservatism for five generations.

      The Social Security Administration is purchasing hollow-point bullets to shoot and kill Americans with.

      And now, Conservatism's latest product:

      "Obama laughs as dying ambassador begs for help. 'Allah is Great,' Obama is reported to have screamed."

      November 20, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Reply
      • swmatlgen7

        Umm El Falco....did you not see the 2nd Presidential Debate? The "death panels" are REAL and Obama could not defend how they would not limit care. I really hope in two years you get some deadly condition and see for yourself what this "death panel" will do to you!!! i'm sure you'll change your tune but still blame Bush and Repubs as you lazy libs always do

        November 20, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
      • swmatlgen7

        No reply El Falco? Typical liberal....prove them wrong and they just walk away and start another fight.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
      • smwyowl

        Death panels only exist in Republican fantasy land. Why I fear for America's future is that there are millions and millions of you incredibly gullible, half-educated dolts who believe the made-up crud that spews out of the mouths of the likes of Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
      • ghostriter

        If your argument is that the death panels are real, I probably wouldn't respond to you either.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • LeeBo

      Too bad your Mom doesn't get a do-over chance. I'm sure you would not be posting today had she had that chance.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Reply
  43. Mark

    so swmatlgen7..what race am I?

    hmmm?

    November 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      No one asked, but I am a southern White guy who is old enough to remember White and Colored water fountains. I remember the banner that hung over Main Street in Greenville Texas, proclaiming that the city contained, "The Whitest People, The Blackest Earth." The fathers of some of my playmates, all Southern Baptists, would occasionally ride around looking for a Black man in our part of town after sunset. They would then beat him up and take his wallet.

      I know my people.

      I speculate that if Obama had been White and Romney had been Black, Obama would have won the election with 75% of the vote.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Reply
      • DrJack

        Its far more Red vs Blue these days.
        What if it were between Hilary Clinton and (a magically controversy free) Herman Cain?
        About the same thing that happened in the real election. Blue team by 2 million votes.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  44. Mark

    CHECK OUT THIS RACIST:

    swmatlgen7

    why Mark? It's simple. one I'm not racist....I just believe in supporting the white people, just as the NAACP believes in helping minorities. Why is one a racists and the other a "civil rights" group? One thing I do know, as it has been proven by Obama and Holder, when the blacks get control....they will stick it to the white people. You sir are a trader to your race, an Uncle Tyrone if you will

    November 20, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      Mark, you are a trader to your race.

      Go hang your head in shame.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        HAHAHAHAHA!

        repubs are such good entertainment!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
      • swmatlgen7

        want to talk about racists....lets start with Holder who said in internal memos that the DOJ will NOT prosecute crimes committed against whites by other races as hate crimes. Man, imagine the uproar if a white DOJ head said the reverse!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
      • Sterup

        Hes trading his race?

        November 20, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • LeeBo

      Blacks are just as racists as any other ethnic group.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Reply
      • ghostriter

        Is that what Rush told you? Or was it Beckers?

        November 20, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • ghostriter

      Wow. Sounds a bit out there.

      I'd bet dollars to donuts he doesn't care as much about those jewish coalitions out there as he does the NAACP.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Reply
  45. Andy

    An enormous amount of time and money are being spent to figure out who said what, when. Maybe I'm missing something. What's the justification for this? What difference does it make? Why aren't we putting this effort into preventing something similar from happening again? From here it just looks like politics at its usual worst.

    November 20, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Soon, Americans will march on Washington and try the republican traitors for treason.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Reply
      • LeeBo

        You are a blithering idiot.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • Patriot Awesome

      I agree. They're directing their anger at the wrong people. It was the terrorists that killed our people not the administration. They're arguing over semantics. It's stupid and a waste of time and money. This is also going to backfire big time on the Republicans, especially as more facts come out.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Reply
    • PaganObservation

      That is what this committee was supposed to do in the first place. Their job was supposed to be figure out why no action was taken and then take the lessons learned in order to prevent such an occurance from happening again. However, it has gone from that to this fiasco we have now. Hopefully, this committee will get their heads out of their rear ends and get back to the original objective.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Reply
    • John Geheran

      To prevent something from happening again, don't you have to determine the root cause of the problem you're trying to fix?

      November 20, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Reply
      • PaganObservation

        They have. Hilary Clinton admitted to giving the order to stand down and explained why. Instead of creating policy and changing procedures, they are looking into statements made in the days following the attack. What does that have to do with what went on leading up to the attack?

        November 20, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
      • Andy

        I'm all for figuring out the root cause . But I don't understand how an investigation into the talking points would give us any insight into the cause.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • joshua

      I'm just shocked that Obama blamed the massacre on youtube video instead of George Bush. Maybe obama is moving forward.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Reply
  46. ari

    seeing republicans use the deaths of americans to score political points does not surprise me anymore, but at the same time, i'm astonished as to how long they've been dragging this out. they're just looking for SOMETHING, ANYTHING to blame on obama. and every time they think they've got it, reality intervenes, and they have to start all over again. pathetic. GET TO WORK ON THE ECONOMY, GENIUSES.

    November 20, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      They are traitors and will be tried for treason

      November 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Reply
      • LeeBo

        Too bad you can't stand trial - being mentally incompetent et. al.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • LeeBo

      Those awful Republicans who support right to life for an unborn baby who has no choice, no voice, and no legal protection. Those wonderful Democrats who get outraged over the death penalty for criminals who have a choice, a voice, and legal protection – all at the expense of tax payers. And, when all else fails, play the race card.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        Nice talking points Leebo!

        Have you ever tried using your OWN thoughts instead of Fox News?

        November 20, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
      • El Flaco

        My advice to people who oppose abortion is not to have one. Let us all pray every night that every pregnant woman will make the right decision – but it is her decision.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
  47. DB

    What is wrong with you poeple????!!!
    The only the wrong here is YOU!!!!
    You really think your gonna get the whole story? Its not about hiding something, its about national security and intelligence!!!!
    The repubs know this nothing, but they are using nondisclosure information to put the dems in a corner knowing that somethings can't be made public!..
    They are looking for every little nuck and crany to find something wrong....
    Tell them to go do some real work and create some bills that can be passed to create more jobs and strengthen the economy

    November 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Excellent post! You are a good American

      November 20, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Reply
    • JBB

      There was plenty of information released when Bin Laden was killed...just ask Dr. Shakil Afridi if he has second thoughts.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        Your 6th grade education is showing. Try to get an adult to help you keep up and understand FACTS.

        ok, son?

        November 20, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
      • DB

        I feel really sorry for you if you think you got the WHOLE story!
        Only what they need to give you to help you sleep at night...
        YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
      • JBB

        Easy Mark...why such anger? Perhaps you could enlighten me on the facts since I'm barely smarter than a 5th grader.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • PaganObservation

      Though I agree that Republicans are trying to find some way to slam the President, I do believe that such an inquiry should be done in order to find out what happened, not what was stated afterward, and prevent such occurances from happening again and to find a better way to protect our ambassadors who are overseas.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Reply
      • DB

        So how is what was said and when it was said gonna help that???
        we think we are GODs that prevent everything...hind sight is a funny thing you know...
        The problem here is the public don't and will never know everything...but you have to be assured that they are working to prevent this from happening again, BIPARTISIANLY!!!
        The partisian is only for public opinion for elections!!!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
      • PaganObservation

        I am not saying that is what they should be doing and I don't agree they should be looking into statements that took place following the attack. This committee was supposed to find out why 4 people are dead in order to prevent it from happening again. What they have since turned to is what was stated afterward. They should get back to their original objective which is to correct the problems by either making policy or adjusting the procedures that are currently in place.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • CommonVoice

      They CAN'T give it up.

      They spent the better part of the last four years with "birth certificate". Nothing could convince them.

      Now they have "Benghazi" for the next four. Nothing can convince them on this either.

      This is going to drag on till 2016. After all, who can give up such a juicy topic, especially when they have nothing better to talk about?

      November 20, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Reply
    • John Geheran

      Yeah, like making investments in solar energy companies, "shovel-ready" projects, more Czars and Cabinet positions.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Reply
    • John Geheran

      "Create more jobs" like the ones in the solar industry? Or hire more Czars and expand the size of the Cabinet? What the heck, it's only government money and we can raise taxes and print more when we run out.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Reply
      • ghostriter

        Surely you aren't referring to the same types of energy companies that Paul Ryan got stimulus money for? Biden still has the letter in which Ryan said this investment would create jobs.

        Funny, I don't see conservatives badgering him about it.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
  48. Mark

    Lets cut to the chase repubs. Why are you so racist?

    November 20, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Reply
    • JBB

      Why are you so angry?

      November 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        November 20, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
      • JBB

        ROTFLMFAO....bwahahahahahahahhahahah!

        November 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • El Flaco

      The White Racist vote provides the margin of victory in most elections in which the Republican won.

      that cunning fox Richard Nixon developed the famous Southern Strategy by which racist Southerners were assured that Nixon and the Republicans were favorable to "States' Rights," a code phrase which declared that the federal government could not tell states what to do (like desegregate public and private facilities). What happened? Nixon won TN, KY, FL, NC, SC, WV, VA. George Wallace ("Segregation now, segregation forever) won LA, AK, MS, GA, AL. Except for Texas, the solid south deserted the Great Society and the Democrats. Later, Ronald Reagan borrowed Nixon's Southern Strategy, streamlined is a bit, and he won every Southern state except Carter's Georgia.

      Republicans have based their presidential success on cultivating the Segregationist vote in the South. They lie and deny it, but we all know they do. Segregationists deliver the margin of victory for Republicans in many elections. They accounted for much of the Republican success in 2010.

      There are certainly plenty of non-racist Republicans but no Conservative will disavow or criticize the millions of racist Republicans who are necessary for the party to win.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Reply
      • JBB

        El Flaco – can you name me one election that the Democratic Party could have won without the "white" vote?

        November 20, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
      • swmatlgen7

        why is everything about race? Seriously, anytime someone criticizes Obama they are immediately labeled a racist!!! You sir are the one who is truly racist, along with the 97% of African Americans who voted strictly on racial lines. Make your comments that the only reason Repubs win is because of the racist white voters (all 58-60% who vote repub), and continue to ignore the only reason Obama won a second term is because of his racist supporters!!!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
      • El Flaco

        Democrats win all of their elections without the White Racist vote. All White Racists are Republicans.

        Google the Southern Strategy. Also google Iran Contra. Learn how Republicans win elections.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
      • JBB

        El Flaco – the fact is, they can't win an election without the "white" vote. You are being ingorant claiming all republicans are racist. Generalizations are lame, just like your opinion.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
      • Bryan

        @swmatlgen7: First of all, 97% of blacks voting for Obama does NOT make blacks racist. That's an ignorant and tired old excuse for republicans losing the election. I'm sure more whites went to go see The Italian Job with Mark Walberg than they went to see Hotel Rwanda with Don Cheadle. Heck, I'm sure there are more white Han Solo fans than white Lando Calrisian fans. Does that make white people racists? No. You tend to gravitate towards who you can identify best with. Its human nature. Besides 13% of the population that blacks represent are not enough to give ANYONE the presidency. There had to be a latinos and an AWFUL LOT of whites. Again, conservative logic FAIL.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
      • John Geheran

        Funny how it's mostly whites who are characterized as "racist". But where are the white "Ebony" magazines, NCAAP's and "Affirmative Action" groups, Nation of Islam, et al? Yeah, there are plenty of white fringe groups but they pale in comparison to the breath and depth of Black only organizations. The Blacks endured 200 years (in this hemisphere) of oppression, the Irish suffered for 900 years under the thumb of Her Majesty's Empire, the Armenians were brutally slaughtered by the Ottoman Turks, etc., etc. with the possible exception of Muslims, there is virtually no ethnic or religious group who has not been the target of aggressive, intolerant and small minded people. Perhaps more than any other country, the US has "fessed-up" to its transgressions and continues to make progress toward "e pluribus unum". Yes Rodney King, "we can get along and we will".

        November 20, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • Mark

      Well? Why are you so racist?

      November 20, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Reply
      • JBB

        Actually, to see a true racist, you need look no further than the mirror. I've never voted for or against a person based on the color of his or her skin.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
      • swmatlgen7

        why Mark? It's simple. one I'm not racist....I just believe in supporting the white people, just as the NAACP believes in helping minorities. Why is one a racists and the other a "civil rights" group? One thing I do know, as it has been proven by Obama and Holder, when the blacks get control....they will stick it to the white people. You sir are a trader to your race, an Uncle Tyrone if you will

        November 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • LeeBo

      Those awful Republicans who support right to life for an unborn baby who has no choice, no voice, and no legal protection. Those wonderful Democrats who get outraged over the death penalty for criminals who have a choice, a voice, and legal protection – all at the expense of tax payers. And, when all else fails, play the race card.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Reply
    • LeeBo

      Blacks are just as racist as any other ethnic group.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Reply
    • LeeBo

      Mark—Methinks thou has racist issues. The vitriol spewing from your mouth makes that self evident. And, the fact that it seems to be on your mind a lot.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Reply
  49. joshua

    None of this spin explains why the white house invented the whole youtube video line and kept repeating it for 2 weeks.

    November 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Reply
    • KBNJ

      Precisely. It's all smoke and mirrors attempting (somewhat successfully base on some of the comments here) to obfuscate the obvious.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Reply
      • Jack Duggan

        Obfuscate what, exactly?

        November 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
      • Mark

        He isnt sure. He just learned a new word "Obfuscate" and is trying it out in a sentence

        November 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • Mark

      You arent really following along with this story, are you?

      November 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      The compound in Benghazi is on fire.

      If Obama had sent in 50 Marines to rescue those Americans, what would Conservatives now be saying if 42 of those Marines were killed and 8 were captured AND the ambassador was killed too? All the Conservative gasbags in America would be screaming that he poured American soldiers down the rathole when he should have been more cautious.

      If Obama had sent in 50 Marines and had rescued the ambassador and all Marines came home unharmed, Conservatives would now be saying, “Obama has opened up a third war and now we’ll be mired down in a war in Libya for a decade.

      If Obama, following the advice of his generals, decided – as he did – to determine what the situation on the ground was before committing more Americans to the situation, Conservatives would be saying what they are saying right now.

      This whole Benghazi thing is about Obama’s Black skin. Conservatives can’t stand darkies.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Reply
      • 99dakota

        wow, i sure hope that koolaid has at least some nutritional value...becuase it doesn't have any other value.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
      • joshua

        this was about Obama blaming the murders of our ambassador and 3 others on a youtube video and why he continued blaming it on the video for 2 weeks. And then he went before the United Nations and brought up the youtube video again.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
      • Ol' Yeller

        You are sooo right. Did you hear any of the rightwingnutjob radio shows and FOX when our President finally got Osama Bin Laden (some of them were actually saying it on the real news), that our President was some kind of criminal for sending in a hit squad to kill a man who had not ever been tried in a court of law (never mind the same whackos were screaming bloody murder when any talk was made of trying the Gitmo bunch).
        I guess we are just going to have to out an CIA agent to make the republicants happy. I mena they were hasure happy when cheney did it.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • Mark

      Drinking your kool-aid again republicans?

      November 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Reply
      • JBB

        Pot calling the kettle...

        November 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
      • Mark

        Is that the best you can do?

        November 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • Hsquared

      Please explain the supposed motive. As has been pointed out in numerous reports, Susan Rice's statement comported completely with the talking points that came directly from the intelligence community. But since you're obviously desperate to believe that she or Obama just made them up, what is suppose to be the motive. Are we to believe that if it weren't for Rice's statements, President elect Romney would be awaiting inauguration right now?

      November 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        They dont know what the motive is. They just spew what Fox tells them to spew

        November 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
      • JBB

        What is the motive to claim it was all due to a video??

        November 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
      • Mark

        Try to keep up JBB and pay attention to the facts and this evolving story. Fox has brainwashed you and I am here to help you.

        Your Welcome!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
      • txtriathlete1967

        The motive was for the Administration not having to admit that their intelligence community failed to do its job. If it had come to light immediately after the attack that Al-Qaeda was behind the attack then the current Administration would have had to fight a firestorm of criticism on its inablity to predict where terrorists are going to strike and protect US assets internationally. That is something the Administration did not want to happen two weeks before the election.

        Interesting that Petraeus (CIA Director) knew immediately that Al-Qaeda was behind the attack, yet Clapper (DNI) chose to change that language in the Intel assessment. I don't blame Rice for the message; she was a good soldier and used what was given to her; she just happens to be the "whipping girl" for the Administration on this debacle now...

        November 20, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • ghostriter

      And none of the republican blathering explains why I should care who they blamed it on as long as they get it right and not do something stupid....like invade a country looking for WMD's.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Reply
      • rep

        Amen to that.

        I keep thinking to myself that Obama should have just proclaimed that missing WMDs were linked to the attack. Then I'm sure the GOP would be perfectly OK with scores of Americans dying without any follow-up investigation, verification, or questions whatsoever.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • DB

      DO YOU HAVE ADD?
      You can't follow the whole story?
      Its plain and simple, but you are allowing the repus (LOSERS) to make something out of nothing!
      Americans died, move on!!!!!
      First it was their first attempt with fast and furious and now this!
      Tell them to do some real work and pass some bills that would improve our jobs and economy....!

      November 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Reply
      • 99dakota

        Really? How about Americans died...and the sitting administration decided to go to plate with an unsubstantiated narrative that said it was all because of a video. Not appropriate behavior.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
  50. El Flaco

    Conservatives were delighted and thrilled at the news of the death of the American ambassador during Obama's term. They have since been distorting and embellishing the story as they always do.

    On the day of the ambassador’s death, Fox News showed video of Conservatives dancing in the streets of Birmingham, Oklahoma City, and Phoenix. They were chanting, “Hooray for Romney!” and “We’ve got Hussein now!” and “Death to the Kenyan” and “This is almost as good as Death Panels.”

    November 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Reply
    • KBNJ

      1. Speak for yourself. I'll speak for myself.
      2. Get therapy.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Reply
      • Bobby Jindal

        No KBNJ, I'll speak for you.
        It is time for Republicans to stop being the party of stupid.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
      • El Flaco

        You gasbags are devoted to this lie – until you are instructed to start parroting the next Conservative lie.

        Dishonesty is the cornerstone of Conservatism.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • JBB

      Yawn......

      November 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        Getting tired from the lying you are supporting?

        November 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
  51. KBNJ

    President Obama either knew the CIA knew it was Al-Qeada right away or he's lost control of the CIA. If he and Congress lost control of the CIA, we have FAR larger problems than Benghazi. If not, he knew, and STILL:
    - Sent Rice out to mislead us and the world
    - Didn't bother to correct the story, even after the President of Libya corrected Rice the next day, for several weeks
    If they wanted to take Al-Qaeda out of the initial release, that's understandable. Keeping the "mob" fairytale alive for weeks on end is not excusable, and REEKS of playing politics with 4 American lives.

    November 20, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      So your argument is that if Obama didn't know, he knew.
      If Obama didn't realize, he realized.
      If Obama wasn't informed, he was informed.
      If the intel was wrong, it was right.

      You must be a Conservative.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Reply
      • KBNJ

        It's REALLY simple:
        If he knew, he lied.
        If he didn't know he's incompetent.
        After he DID know he continued to lie.
        Is that so hard?

        November 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
      • Goergie Bush

        No it's not so hard.
        It sounds just like what I did with the whole WMD reason for invading Iraq. Of course my actions killed far more than just 4 people...but I'm glad you're a conservative republican. Otherwise you might have attacked me the same way your attacking Obama.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
      • El Flaco

        How about

        1. No one knew. We – you and I – still don't know who planned this well-planned attack.
        Was it anger over that video?
        Was it Al Qaeda seeking revenge over the death of a leader?
        Was it Ghaddafi loyalists seeking revenge for his overthrow and murder?
        Was it someone else motivated by something else?

        November 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
      • Carole

        You're right on there!!!!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • PaganObservation

      Reality is that they were still sifting through all the intelligence reports when the statements were made. Yes, they could have had a clue that Al Queda was involved, but it wasn't certain since there were multiple intelligence reports stating different organizations as well as outrage toward the video. The plain and simple matter is that they should have said that they were still investigating and would release a statement once all the facts were in. It really doesn't matter what statements were made because at the heart of the matter is that 4 people died and the focus should be on preventing such an occurance from happening again. In short, multiple agencies, including Congress, failed and as a result 4 people died.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Reply
    • JD in GA

      Consulate under attack by terrorists( cowards) obama goes to bed Las Vegas was more important

      November 20, 2012 at 3:55 pm | Reply
  52. Charlotte

    Since when were Republicans persuaded by facts when they could instead blather and spew to try and make political targets out of people they have decided to make a grudge against. Like women. Or black people. Or democrats. Oh look! Someone who is all three!

    November 20, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      To Conservatives, facts are like deficits. They don't matter.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Reply
  53. Nat Reader

    When will the govt learn from city police departments??? "At this time we do not have any information until we finish our investigation. When we do we will release a statement". Everyone in the government wants to release information so fast that it ends up erroneous and too fluid due to multiple sources. When will they learn to just STOP, INVESTIGATE, the RELEASE information. As far as I knew CNN, FOX and everyone else are not on the critical to inform list.

    November 20, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Reply
    • Big_D

      BINGO!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER WITH COMMON SENSE!!! BEST POST OF THE DAY!!!

      November 20, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Reply
      • JBB

        Wow, you should do have low standards for best post of the day.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
    • El Flaco

      No Conservative in America would stand for that. Certainly no Republican in Congress would stand for that.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
      • JBB

        I believe republicans are asking for an investigation...as is Senate Intelligence Committee Chair Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. Benghazi has been handled poorly by this administration from day one. Move "forward" and perform the investigation, release the findings, learn from your mistakes, and address the fiscal cliff.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • ARMYCSM

      HOOAH! I didn't think so either Nat...

      November 20, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Reply
    • thelady8home

      Problem is, Republicans now have selective amnesia about the wide spread protest that WAS taking place all across the world for that video outside of Bengazi. The intelligence community had two fold problem at their hands – finding out what exactly was happening in Bengazi and calm down the rest of the world that had erupted in violence, putting Americans all across the world in danger. But Republicans and their politics – well, well being of Americans is last on their priority list.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Reply
      • JBB

        Oh yeah...a video released in July just so happens to spark outrage across the Muslim world on 9/11. I'm sure this wasn't a pre-planned event. Why were other embassies in Benghazi evacuated for security reasons before 9/11, but the U.S. embassy, which should have been on the highest of alerts, was not evacuated? Why were requests for additional security not addressed by the State Department? There's a lot of questions that need to be answered...playing partisan politics is one of those answers. Complete an investigation, report the findings publicly, and move on.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
    • CommonVoice

      The blame lies on "WE The People".

      WE have come to expect a report from Govt. Officials, five minutes after anything happens, whether they really know anything or not. There are fifty different News Media with microphones running after officials to say "something". If they don't say anything then they must be hiding something. If they do say whatever they know at that moment and it turns out not so accurate, then there is a "conspiracy".

      Unfortunately, WE are to blame for this. The News Media really represent "us" and our insatiable desire to be informed about everything on a minute by minute basis. On the other hand, the Government represents "us" too and they are bound by the Democratic System to keep us informed.

      WE have to change and say that WE can wait for the truth to come out. Otherwise, this cycle of misinformation, much of it unintended, will continue. And believe it or not, OUR lives become less and less safe that way.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Reply
  54. Loathstheright

    The Repubicans will tell any lie, do any dishonest deed to harm the President. They all were very quiet with all the attacks and deaths of Embassy personel during Bush's years.

    November 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Reply
    • 99dakota

      Even wtih changes being make w/in intel channels before it got to WH, it still doesn't warrant the administration sending someone (anyone) out to multiple Sunday AM shows to promote a narrative that they wanted reinforced. No excuse for that sort of mindgame.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      Speaking of truthfulness...

      Death Panels.
      Kenyan
      Birth Certificate
      Obama is the Antichrist
      Cadillac Driving Welfare Queens
      "Free" markets
      Closet Muslim
      Cutting taxes increases revenue
      WMDs in Iraq "No Doubt"
      Bin Laden in Afghanistan "No Doubt"
      Kindergarten Teaching Union Thugs
      Pedophile federal agents groping screaming children in airports
      Fast & Furious
      Obama-phones (free phone program was created in the Reagan Administration)
      Barnie Frank caused the world-wide Great Recession
      All scientists who assert that global-warming is real are socialists and communists.
      Obama allowed Gen. Petraeus to put his hoo-hoo in that psycho broad’s binkie

      All global media corporations have been in a communist (before 1991)/socialist (after 1991) conspiracy to defame Conservatism for five generations.

      The Social Security Administration is purchasing hollow-point bullets to shoot and kill Americans with.

      And now, Conservatism's latest product:

      "Obama laughs as dying ambassador begs for help. 'Allah is Great,' Obama is reported to have screamed."

      November 20, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Reply
  55. les

    All a cover story. Their job was to down play terrorism during the preelection period.

    There should in any event be an investigation why they did what they did, especially since they screwed up royally.

    Why did they need to err on the side of caution?

    November 20, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Reply
    • Big_D

      Why don't you ask the Senate Intelligence Committee. There are seven republicans that approved this. Rubio to name one.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Reply
    • Nat Reader

      "Mission Accomplished"....."We found weapons of mass destruction"....and so on....get the point?

      November 20, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Reply
    • Charlotte

      Les is a good example of a putrid, uninformed liar.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Reply
    • Nat Reader

      What did they "screw up royally?" THe people would still be dead, Al Queda still would have ended up responsible....the CIA operatives still would have been the only ones to get there in the time.....in the end our congress ...and mostly the GOP....is spending LOADS of time asking about Benghazi and who had s** with a General when I would rather them focus on the economy....

      November 20, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
      • RPP

        I agree! How can those evil Republicans be questioning the Dear Leader's actions in this manner? I mean, after his "laser-like" focus on jobs for the past four years and the shining economic growth that attention has generated...oh, wait...never mind!

        November 20, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
  56. LeeBo

    A recall of your citizenship and the ensuing deportation would be a great place to start.

    November 20, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Reply
    • Big_D

      You are living proof that the only thing long and hard on a Republican is third grade. Your insults look like they came from a fifth grader with a learning disability.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Reply
      • LeeBo

        Once you thought you made a mistake but you were wrong.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
  57. Big_D

    As long as there are people in the USA ignorant enough to vote for the GOP we will have to deal with this garbage. You just can't fix stupid or the GOP apparently.

    November 20, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      I would suggest education for them but then they would just call me a snob.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Reply
      • LarryAt27N

        Make that an elitist snob.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • LeeBo

      You don't know your butt from a hole in the ground.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Reply
      • Big_D

        Is that the best you have DweeBo?

        November 20, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
    • LeeBo

      You are a fixer-upper candidate. You IQ is marginal at best.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Reply
      • Big_D

        Smells like a bitter loser with a grade school education in here. It must be you.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • DEMOCRATS SUCK.

      Be ready of 4 years of hell under the Obama Administration. The 2012 election was a political 911

      November 20, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Reply
  58. gordyb

    This witch hunt is going nowhere. In the end the GOP will only have mud on its face for again trying to smear the president. There was no conspiracy, nothing was hidden by the WH for political reasons. Lets move on and find the culprits and bring them to justice.

    November 20, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Repubs have more anger towards the president than the actual killers.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Reply
  59. carlos

    Chesswithcolors.........rubio??????/...the poster baby...poster boy...and now the poster little man??????.....he wouldn't get 1% of the hispanic vote, not even the cuban vote for that matter......

    November 20, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
    • Big_D

      I think he actually is on the committee that flubbed up the intelligence too if you check the facts.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Reply
      • LeeBo

        You have diarrhea of the mouth, constipation of the brain.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
      • Big_D

        I get insulted because I actually know who is on the Intelligence Committee that approved this cover story?

        November 20, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
  60. gladiatorgrl

    Is this a REAL story or is the GOP just saying these things b/c they're Republicans. Fast and Furious – lot's of time/money WASTED. Going after Bubba Bill – lot's of time/money WASTED. These guys NEVER change.

    November 20, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Reply
  61. Mark

    CHECK OUT THIS REPUBLICAN:

    Libacryte

    Mark – the only thing anyone like YOU could ever "own" is a 12 year old Thai runaway that you kidnapped & have tied up in your mommy's basement.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Reply
    • Big_D

      Sounds like projection to me. Sick disgusting mentally ill projection. They should raid their house and check.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Reply
  62. Big_D

    I feel the USA is under attack from the GOP and I am starting to think the only way to fight back is to eliminate them from our government completely. At least libertarians can be conservative without siding with Al Qaeda.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Reply
    • LeeBo

      You are a blithering idiot.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Reply
      • Big_D

        Back at ya.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • James

      I feel the USA is under attack from the Socialist DemocRATS and I am starting to think the only way to fight back is to eliminate them from our government completely. At least libertarians aren't Anti-American.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Reply
      • Big_D

        I'm not anti American. The GOP wanting more intel for Al Qaeda fits that bill.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
  63. Fools Rush In

    Sounds like some in the intelligence community actually remember getting burned by publicly announcing single-source, unverified information about the (nonexistent) WMD in Iraq. We should be thanking them for avoiding that sort of cluster#@*& here.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Reply
    • MIKE

      This conversation is short on facts. Everyone watched this on tv. They sent in reenforcements from Tripoli and tha ey denied the CIA from leaving their compound and helping but did any way. The rescued everyone and took them back to the CIA compound and then they took on mortar fire that killed two more Americans the whole time these clowns are watching this 7 hour moviie from multible cameras. Some should at least be fired for this if not jailed and all you liberals want to do is spin words. You are the problem with this country. Take some pride if you know what it means.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Reply
      • Fools Rush In

        I don't know about spinning words. But I can spell words.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
  64. allens

    the republicans have done more damage to americans, than the taliban. instead of working to solve our countries problems, they are throwing road blocks out there and wasting time. with all of the time they are putting into messing with the president elected by the people, maybe we do not need this many congressman and senators. it would save a great deal of funds that could be used for digging our country out of debt

    November 20, 2012 at 12:49 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      The trials will start soon. Treason is very serious

      November 20, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Reply
  65. cajr

    really what is the problem? its obvious with obama winning the election nobody even cares as this information was well out before the election. as long as obama claims he is going to keep giving people food stamps and welfare and saying the other guy is going to take it all away then of course he will win. this society has become a what can you give me society just like the palestinians, the greeks, you name it. they want the free stuff to keep rolling in forever even if it means fiscal bankruptsy or electing terrorist governments. how anyone can feel good about the next four years is beyond me. nothing is going to improve just as it hasnt in the last four, as im convinced ill be on those very food stamps i impose by then.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Ah, you got your republican blinders and talking points on!

      You should try thinking for yourself. You will like it!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:49 pm | Reply
      • .

        So, in other words you don't have anything to say otherwise. Just the usual "republican! blargh!"

        Tolerance does not equal being passive aggressive or simply being dismissive. Which you and your ilk are typically guilty of.

        Me, I'm just glad I'm not stupid enough to bother myself with either party.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • asdf

      Funny how much better life and things were in the late 1990's (balanced budget,etc) until some id10t rich spoiled frat boy who has had everything handed to him his life had the presidency handed to him to by his brother and the Supreme Court. That is really when America went into the toilet.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Reply
    • LeeBo

      Yep. Odd how Obama became the champion of Gay Rights and illegal immigrants jus a very few months before the election. His suddenly found concern does not ring true.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Reply
    • gladiatorgrl

      OMG more of the "free stuff" tin hat message. Do you even stop to think WHY we have these protections? SS was created to 1) keep old people from dying in the streets – the TAX EXEMPT CHURCH did nothing!! 2) move people out of the workforce so younger people can have jobs.
      Medicare so we just don't have "death panels" for the elderly and those who cannot afford medical care.
      Food Stamps – we're NOT Bangladesh!!!
      Welfare – we're NOT Bangladesh!!!

      TAX THE CHURCHES that do NOTHING!!!! Let them write off their charity against their income like everyone else.

      We take care of our own in this country. IF you know of any fraud please report it.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Reply
      • rosethornne

        Hear hear.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
  66. Big_D

    At what point does the constant GOP attacks against America become treason? What about Rove trying to hack Ohio? When do we draw the line and run them out on a rail?

    November 20, 2012 at 12:44 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      WE start now. Remind them that the penalty for treason is death

      November 20, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Reply
    • Libacryte

      about the same time that the leftist socialists are put in prison for voter fraud.

      (you should stop w/ the melodramatic hyperbole – you sound like more of an ignoramus than most of your cretinous bretheren, which is saying a LOT)

      November 20, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        Do I have to OWN you again?

        Be careful son, supporting treason is punishable by prison or death.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
      • Libacryte

        Mark – the only thing anyone like YOU could ever "own" is a 12 year old Thai runaway that you kidnapped & have tied up in your mommy's basement.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
      • conrad

        Who says things like this?

        November 20, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
      • Mark

        Your juvenile responses are amusing. Please continue republican. I have ordered you to do so

        November 20, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
      • Libacryte

        Mark – your ignorance is as laughable as your belief that taking other people's hard earned money & giving it to those who don't deserve while allowing our Gov to continue to spend OUR money like a drunken sailor it is a sound fiscal idea.

        The only thing that is "amusing" is that folks like you whine about "fox news" while blindly, religiously believing everything from Mucho Socialist National Barack Channel (MSNBC) – are your legs "tingling" yet?

        Oh, and yet ANOTHER thing you are wrong about (as I'm sure you get used to in your pathetic existence) – I'm not a "republican" – BOTH parties are professional liars, and if you cannot see that, then you, I'm afraid, are a BLIND SHEEP – BAAAAAA

        November 20, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
      • Mark

        Very good republican, You have followed my orders well.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
      • Bobby Jindal

        And people ask me why I say we, the Republican party, need to stop being the party of stupid.
        After reading several post by Libacryte, I think we're it too late. Hey Democrats, can I join your party?

        November 20, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • conrad

      I guess being summarily voted out wasn't enough of a message. Pehaps they are waiting until 2014 to lose their majority in the house too before they get a clue. The American people are tired of this pointless cr ap; go do your jobs, do something constructive for a change. Good grief!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Reply
    • LeeBo

      We start with narrow minded people like you.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Reply
      • elmer

        Enough fresh air for you, back to the septic that is Fox News.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
  67. Oryx

    Ok, so did anyone in the "intelligence community" bother to tell their boss before he testified on Friday that he didn't know who changed the talking points. Yeah, that makes me feel a lot better knowing the guy who's supposed to be in charge of Nat'l Security doesn't have a clue what his own agency is deciding.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      My local Walmart ran out of my favorite brand of canned fruit. I think the CEO of Walmart should be fired.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Reply
      • Libacryte

        if you're comparing Walmart to the President of the United States – you're more ignorant than most lefty socialists.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
      • El Flaco

        Lib, what I'm saying is that the upper management of large organizations do not know what all of their subordinates are doing on a daily basis.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
      • Libacryte

        and that means absolutely NOTHING when compared to the President. He IS supposed to know what is going on – if he doesn't, then he is either:

        A.) incompetent, and should be impeached
        B.) lying, and should be impeached

        November 20, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
      • conrad

        Yes, it is more likely that Patraeus was more concerned with actual operations and pursuing intelligence than with proof reading talking points for TV.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
      • Strategic Bob

        to Libacrete, are you SEROIUSLY suggesting that the President is personally responsible for knowing, in detail, what every one of the several million people employed by the federal government (military, civilian, on-site contractor personnel, etc.) is doing on a minute by minute basis? it sure sounds like that is what you are saying. if so, you are an idiot of the highest order. if not, then you are deliberatly making a deceitful argument. which is it – are you an idiot or a Republican? oh, wait. there's no difference there, is there?

        November 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • PaganObservation

      There were too many hands in the pot. When this occurs, information gets messed up and it becomes difficult to isolate who did what and when.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Reply
    • Bill

      Oh they have a clue. They knew exactly what they were doing whether it was done by intelligence or the White House. They were making changes to a story that was going to air shortly before the election that was not going to make Obama look good. They knew the polls were showing a close race. Had the truth been released it may have altered the election. That was not a chance the White House wanted to take, and thats the same reason the David Patraeus resignation and scandal was not released. Thats how the White House controls the news they want you to hear.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Reply
      • Corwin7

        Maybe in Faux News world is 330 to 206 a "close race" but to those of us that follow actual events that's called a "landslide victory" :)

        November 20, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
      • subman669

        You seem to forget that the Majority Leader in the House of Representatives (a Republican) knew about the Patreus Affair in OCTOBER! How come He didn't say anything publicly before the election? Do the Republicans think we be;lieve he didn't share thiss information within his Party? That we think he kept his mouth shut not ackowledging he had the information until After Patreus resigned?

        November 20, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
      • PaganObservation

        Do you even know how the government is set up? The intelligence community is completely separate from the White House. They admitted to making mistakes in the talking points, so there is no basis to say that the White House conspired to do anything. Also, embassies are the matters of the State Department so the POTUS is not as directly involved in those matters as the State Department and intelligence communities are. Hilary Clinton has already stated that she made the call to stand down and, again, the intelligence community has admitted to making mistakes in the talking points. Instead of coming up with rediculous conspiracy theories and playing the blame game, the focus should be on changing procedure to prevent such problems from happening in the future.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
    • ADAM4X4

      The General was only in charge of the CIA. There are other intelligence agencies. Also, he is the kind of guy who will take a bullet if he has to. Yes, it literally happened. Good man/soldier and everyone knows it. During WWII, lots of people reminded others that "loose lips sink ships." The public doesn't need to know everything. As soon as the attack on the consulate happened I told everyone I know to let the CIA and the Seals handle it. They are carrying out missions daily on our behalf. I trust this President and his VP. So happy flip-flop and lyin' Ryan were sent packing.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Reply
    • Drummond

      Petraeus was not 'in charge' of national security or the US intelligence community. He was just the Director of the CIA. The USIC is composed of over a dozen different agencies, of which the CIA is only the most well known part. The DNI, James Clapper, is the one who's directly in charge of about 70% of the USIC on a daily basis, and it sounds like he knew what was going on. It's possible if the changes were going on at the ODNI level that the DCIA would have been left out of the loop, but I admit I find that a bit perplexing.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Reply
  68. RPP

    All of the lowing of the sheep is well and good, but it fails to answer the question(s) underpinning the continuing controversy. How can the real-time video surveillence (from both the consulate cameras and the Predator overflying the attack) clearly demonstrating an organized and calculated attack be disregarded to such an extent that a non-existent event (the "spontaneous demonstration of Arab rage" so pitifully apologized for by SecState, the State Department, Amb. Rice and the President!) becomes the accepted talking point? Can any of you honestly say that such concrete evidence shouldn't have been the basis for the Adminstration's position? The White House Situation Room had a live feed, they watched the attack for hours! They knew from the outset that there was no demopnstration and that it wasn't what they told the American People. They didn't even send readily available re-inforcements! Save your self-righteous indignation, not for the Republican members of Congress seeking to uncover the truth, but for the Administration that cynically calculated that it could intentionally deceive the citizens of the united States in a naked grasp to retain power.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      WoW! that was a good story! Tell me more conspiracies. I enjoy the republican kind, they amuse me

      November 20, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Reply
      • RPP

        Gosh, Mark, that's a really devastating rejoinder. I'm crushed! You must have been the star of your high school debate team. Bet the chicks really dug that!

        November 20, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
      • Mark

        im, ok. Did you just learn "rejoinder" and you are now using it in a sentence?

        What else did Fox tell you to think today?

        November 20, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
      • RPP

        Mark, many thanks! There you are again, exhibiting that rapier-sharp inellect and wit. Alas, I simply can't compete with your well-informed and insightful commentary. Whatever will I do?

        November 20, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • michael

      Repukitards are neocon turds with exlax mentality and in need of kaopectate for their brains! House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012." (Washington Post). How about those TWELVE embassies and consulates that were attacked between 2001 and 2008? One of our diplomats, David Foy, was killed in Pakistan in 2006. Where was the outrage then? REPUKITARDS YOU LOST THE ELECTION GIVE IT UP......3,000 AMERICANS LIVES LOST ON 9/11 REPUKITARDS SAY NOTHING! 4 AMERICAN LIVES LOST THEY CRY FOR CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS! WHAT A JOKE!
      .

      November 20, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Reply
      • RPP

        Yet, again, a poster whose truly penetrating intellect shines through (now, what was Hillary Clinton's dissembling remark, oh yeah!) the fog of war. Of course, the fact is that the State's security budget request has been reduced by Congress every year since 2007, when the Dem control of both Houses began during the Bush Adminstration. The cuts continued after the Dear Leader's elevation to the monarchy and have been signed into law by him every year since. Of course, in your narrow and colloquial view, anything done by the Republicans must have happened in a vacuum. However, sadly for you and your ilk, it just ain't so!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
  69. Big_D

    You know you can start a recall of your House Republicans at the state level.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      YAY!!!!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Reply
    • ug

      Just like you can do it for the libs also...

      November 20, 2012 at 12:42 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      There is no way to recall someone who was elected to federal office.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:42 pm | Reply
      • Big_D

        You can with a two thirds majority and I think we are not far from having 70% that would like to see the GOP leave.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
  70. andy

    Like I've been saying to weeks to all the armchair generals, maybe they are saying what they are saying because of NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS! The american-idol obsessed public does not need to know everything about our spies, derp.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Reply
  71. Big_D

    I wonder how much better our government would work with if the GOP wasn't wasting our time and helping pass legislation instead of blocking everything?

    November 20, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      Conservative words: "We will make America fail. We will block everything that Obama tries. We will hold the country hostage until we win the White House. We will make Americans suffer until they vote for us."

      November 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Reply
    • Mark McDonnell

      Yeah, like the 32 jobs bills passed by the House that the Senate refuses to bring up for a vote.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Reply
    • LeeBo

      You are most certainly a block head.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Reply
  72. Nodack

    Still plowing ahead with their witch hunt? How about those jobs? I guess America isn't as important than trying to pin a scandal on the other side. Wasting our time with this nonsense is supposed to make me want to vote for Republicans somehow?

    PFFT.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Reply
    • Tom Wittmann

      Right, and they are nearing the stage of subversion!!

      November 20, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Reply
  73. Big_D

    It seems like one of the SEVEN GOP MEMBERS of the intelligence committee would have communicated to the GOP about what they changed. I guess they didn't think they would run into opposition to the story approved by a committee with so many GOP members.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Reply
    • Tom Wittmann

      You are right, and I bet they did. But the slanderous Messrs KING and Roger didn't care!!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:49 pm | Reply
  74. AngieS

    The GOP needs to be called to the carpet for this lunacy. EVERYONE knows that there are certain things you just don't make public and certainly not before they are investigated properly. This nonsense is putting put people in harms way and the GOP should be ashamed of themselves for trying to score political points on the backs of our Foreign Service personnel. If the Intelligence community felt this was info that shouldn't be released, yet, you can be sure they had darned good reasons for it. The Tea Baggers spewing about the "publics right to know" endangers the lives and the validity of investigations into crimes committed by terrorists but this is what happens when you pretend that any "Joe the Plumber" can and should go to Congress and play at politics they are hardly able to comprehend. I say impeach members of the GOP for obstruction of justice if any of this garbage ends up impeding lawful investigations into the crimes committed against Ambassador Stevens and the other Americans who gave their lives for us!!

    November 20, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Reply
    • LeeBo

      This issue is not partisan. So, stop making it one. Had any of the four dead been your spouse or other family member, you would want the truth to come out. Progress begins with honesty.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Reply
      • andy

        Oh give it up. It IS Partisan. It's the only thing the GOP remotely found to nit pick on. They had nothing else. I didn't see everyone with their panties in a knot after 3000 PEOPLE DIED, in 9/11 after Bush ignored a giant memo telling him it was about to happen. IT IS A PARTISAN ISSUE, and a GOP joke.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
      • El Flaco

        The 'issue' is no issue at all. Islamic terrorists killed 4 Americans in Benghazi.

        Conservatives and Conservatives only think they can blame Obama for those deaths. No Conservative anywhere actually believes that Obama is responsible. They are just lying, like you are.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
      • conrad

        It really is nothing more than the GOP being sore losers.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
      • michael

        Repukitards are neocon turds with exlax mentality and in need of kaopectate for their brains! House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012." (Washington Post). How about those TWELVE embassies and consulates that were attacked between 2001 and 2008? One of our diplomats, David Foy, was killed in Pakistan in 2006. Where was the outrage then? REPUKITARDS YOU LOST THE ELECTION GIVE IT UP......3,000 AMERICANS LIVES LOST ON 9/11 REPUKITARDS SAY NOTHING! 4 AMERICAN LIVES LOST THEY CRY FOR CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS! WHAT A JOKE!
        .

        November 20, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • jnpa

      Unfortunately, the repubs think transparency means telling the public everything, including classified information!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Reply
      • rosethornne

        That's because multi-generational homeschooling in christian madrassas does NOT include any lessons on logic, civics, or anything about the way our government works in the real world.
        Then we get these flaming ignorami flouncing off to washington to impose their taliban style idiocy on the rest of us, with no comprehension of the damage they are doing, or even any idea that they ARE causing damage.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
      • AngieS

        And they say *we're* the ones living in a fantasy world...

        November 20, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
  75. LeeBo

    The issue is that four people would most certainly be alive today had the security been provided as the ambassador requested several times. The Intel testified before Congress that funds were readily available to provide security. The investigation needs to continue to make sure this does not happen again. S. Rice should testify before Congress. One has to wonder why she does not do that. If she did nothing wrong, then she has nothing to worry about. Her silence speaks louder than any words.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      oh my, the inside of a repub mind is humorous!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:28 pm | Reply
    • PaganObservation

      FYI, she did testify before Congress in proceedings that were televised. What should happen is that John McCain should apologize for blaming her for her comments when it was clearly talking points that the intelligence community presented her.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Reply
    • PaganObservation

      I also agree that procedures need to be revised in order to prevent such occurrences from happening again.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Reply
    • andy

      You know there was about 10 seperate instances exactly like this under the Bush Jr. Presidency that no one said peep about? Under the black guy's watch however, OMG we gotta do something about this!. Republitards are pathetic.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Reply
      • RPP

        Name the 10 instances where a US Ambassador was mudered by terrorists during the Bush Administration....I'm waiting...still waiting...still waiting...

        November 20, 2012 at 12:40 pm |
      • Michael

        2002 U.S. Embassy Karachi, Pakistan: 10 killed, 51 injured
        2004 U. S. Embassy bombed in Uzbekistan: 2 killed, several injured.
        2004 U.S. Consulate Saudi Arabia: 8 killed
        2006 US. Embassy Syria: 1 killed, several injured
        2007 U.S. Embassy -Athens: building bombed with an anti-tank grenade...fortunately no one was in the building at the time.
        2008-U.S. Embassy – Serbia: 1 dead; Embassy set on fire
        2008- U. S. Embassy- Yemen- bombed 10 killed

        November 20, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
      • RPP

        Most of which were suicide or car bombings rather than hours-long, military-style engagements witnessed by US decision-makers via live video-fee. All of these attacks were immediately labeled as terrorist attacks by the Bush Adminstration. Finally, no US Ambassador was targetted and killed during any of these events. I'm still waiting...

        November 20, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
      • JC

        Rpp, the attack wasn't hours long. Don't make stuff up. It all started and ended in less than one hour. As for the other attacks, how do you know they were from car bombs and that Bush came on the news and announced to all our OK inquiring minds immediately all classified information that they were terrorist attacks? Making stuff up again? The usual modus operandi for repubs.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • Reality

      Yes, we should tell GOP to approve the 450 millions in funds they denied for foreign missions that would provide better security in the future.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Reply
  76. Big_D

    It sounds like the GOP is back to being the GOP. They will have investigation after investigation proving nothing while they accomplish nothing in the house. I wonder when GOP voters will tire of the elephant droppings they have for representation?

    November 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      The GOP needs to be arrested and tried for treason.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:28 pm | Reply
      • AngieS

        Any member who has taken part in this farce should, indeed, be tried for Obstruction of Justice if it turns out that they have hampered the legitimate investigation into crimes committed against American citizens while on a politically driven crusade to try and discredit the President and his administration. Nothing less than jail terms will do!

        November 20, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • gladiatorgrl

      what's going on with "Fast and Furious"??? Where's Issa?? Apparently they've moved on to another BS investigation.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Reply
  77. Araminta Ross

    This situation is far worse than I could have imagined. Mr. Clapper got to the origin of the problem and it turns out to be nothing short of hyperbolic.

    Does the CIA and Anti-Terrorism group members equal the presidential appointee "Defense Security" ADVISOR types?

    How about the State Department? Is there a difference between a "diplomat" and a "spokesperson"?

    Do these stovepipes created for the "intelligence community" need to be differentiated?

    Mr. Turner, can you check my calculations, please? I got a meeting coming up with President Obama on the lawn of the White House and I want to make sure all my talking points are properly developed.

    EQUATIONS
    {Michael Morell ˅ Michael Olsen} = {Tom Donilan ˅ Ben Rhodes} HQP(s) ≠ administrative mouthpieces

    {Hillary Clinton} = {Victoria Nuland ↓Susan Rice ↓Mark Toner}
    HQP ≠ administrative mouthpieces

    Legend
    {} "the set of"
    ˅ "or"
    ↓ "nor"
    = "equal to"
    ≠ "not equal"
    HQP = Highly Qualified Professional(s)

    November 20, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
    • andy

      Huh? I was told there is no math in reading an article.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Reply
  78. john

    the underlying story that probably explains all this is the following: After the Libyan revolution, the USA needed a CIA listening post near Benghazi in order to keep an eye on terrorist organizations moving between Libya and Egypt. Such a listening post needed to be set up discretly. The cover was a consular office in Benghazi. Embassies and consular facilities are supposed to be protected by host governments, not by US soldiers or CIA. However we wanted our CIA outpost to be there, and remain discrete. After the attack, per Petreus and the Intel service, the 'talking points' were deliberately adjusted to not reveal what the CIA already knew, not only to preserve their anonymity in Benghazi but also to not tip off the jihad organizations (or embarass the Libyan govt. for that matter). Unfortunately, by refusing to accept the Intel version and by injecting partisanship into the deliberations, Republican extremists who refuse to accept the election results are now endangering our discrete information gathering assets in the Arab world. Way to go fools!

    November 20, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Time to put these repub senators on trial. Treason is a serious crime.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Reply
      • AngieS

        Impeding a Federal investigation is, indeed, a felony of fence and anyone who participated in this charade needs to be prosecuted and serve jail time if in any way their garbage stops us from bringing the terrorists to justice!

        November 20, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
      • Mark McDonnell

        They are not Senators, they are Representatives you liberal fool. Read a civics book to understand the difference.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
      • Mark

        McCain is not a senator? hmmmmm...I suggest you discontinue from posting. I would hate for you to look foolish

        November 20, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • Anomic Office Drone

      Conservative media never misses a chance to put CIA intelligence and security assets at risk.

      Just ask Valerie Plame or the people working at the CIA outpost that Rep. Jason Chaffez (R-UT) accidentally exposed on the October 11, 2012 House Bengazi hearing on CSPAN.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Reply
  79. Mark

    Hmmm, looks like the repubs were schooled and have STFU.

    Get ready kids for the next conspiracy....stay tuned!!!

    November 20, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
  80. PeterD

    TNN Breaking News – This Just In – TNN has just learned from Associated Press (AP) that Barack Obama has developed a new Antiseptic Cream Called Hydrogen Barackside. Kills Jobs and Capitalism on Contact. Stimulates Marxist Tendencies, No Oversight Needed, Endorsed by Unions. For the General Destruction of Wealth. Warning: keep your wallet away when opening new and Improved Hydrogen Barackside.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
    • jnpa

      If you have said that FoxNews is reporting that then most repubs would agree the story must be true!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Reply
    • Bryan

      Now you just need to find something for your chronic delusions and acute wrongness.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Reply
  81. Daremonai

    So in other words.. complex situations with lots of variables an unclear data are more complicated then talking heads and readers who have never spent a day in intel think they are?

    *gasp* not complexity!

    I think this is one of the problems with the 24 hour news cycle.. reporters speak with such certainty so quickly that people think there actually _is_ certainty

    November 20, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Reply
  82. Mark

    For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department's worldwide security protection program - well below the $2.15  billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration's request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration's request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans' proposed cuts to her department would be "detrimental to America's national security" - a charge Republicans rejected.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      So Republicans were warned in advance and chose to ignore the warning? This is serious. It needs to be investigated.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Reply
      • .

        CS, is that you? Not surprising.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
      • Mark

        Yep. This will turn on them. Soon they will be extinct

        November 20, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
  83. Mark

    What conspiracy are you repubs working on next? Just curious

    November 20, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Reply
    • El Flaco

      Death Panels.
      Kenyan
      Birth Certificate
      Obama is the Antichrist
      Cadillac Driving Welfare Queens
      "Free" markets
      Closet Muslim
      Cutting taxes increases revenue
      WMDs in Iraq "No Doubt"
      Bin Laden in Afghanistan "No Doubt"
      Kindergarten Teaching Union Thugs
      Pedophile federal agents groping screaming children in airports
      Fast & Furious
      Obama-phones (free phone program was created in the Reagan Administration)
      Barnie Frank caused the world-wide Great Recession
      All scientists who assert that global-warming is real are socialists and communists.
      Obama allowed Gen. Petraeus to put his hoo-hoo in that psycho broad’s binkie

      All global media corporations have been in a communist (before 1991)/socialist (after 1991) conspiracy to defame Conservatism for five generations.

      The Social Security Administration is purchasing hollow-point bullets to shoot and kill Americans with.

      "Obama laughs as dying ambassador begs for help. 'Allah is Great,' Obama is reported to have screamed."

      Next: Federal government is planning forced abortions for White women unless the woman is carrying a biracial child.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Reply
      • Get over it ALREADY

        LOL. Wow...I think that covered about 5%...but nice examples.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
      • ghostriter

        You forgot that Obama is meeting with the black panthers to lead a revolt with the 90% of black folks who voted for him.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
  84. jaketinback

    But wait....It was only about a week ago that many on this site were screaming that FoxNews was the only one carrying this story and that it was a total fabrication. Now, as it turns out, it was in fact a valid story. Maybe more truth to the matter that other news sites wanted to quash it. Nah that couldnt be.... there is no bias in the media.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Reply
    • Bob C.

      No, it's a fabrication that the White House changed it.

      Besides, who cares? It isn't like they're using the "Sunday show talking points" to falsely link 9/11 to Iraq to justify invading it. I mean, who would stoop so low?

      November 20, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Reply
    • NY Repub

      El Flaco

      not sure what article you read but this article stated the White House nor the adminstration changed any of the talking points that were declassified by the Intelligence comunity. They with held information initially during the investigation to protect sources and not to taint the ongoing investigation. There have been a few times the GOP on the House Intelligence committee leaked classified information for political gain.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Reply
  85. Madrep

    GOP this, GOP that..blah blah...All this is irrelevant....WHO ISSUED THE STAND DOWN ORDER TO LET PEOPLE BE MURDERED?????

    November 20, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Calm down Francis. The Fox has you riled up

      November 20, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Reply
      • Madrep

        Hey sweety, The LACK of TRUTH and abundance of LIES has me riled up not Fox there Libby

        November 20, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
      • michael

        Repukitards are neocon turds with exlax mentality and in need of kaopectate for their brains! House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012." (Washington Post). How about those TWELVE embassies and consulates that were attacked between 2001 and 2008? One of our diplomats, David Foy, was killed in Pakistan in 2006. Where was the outrage then? REPUKITARDS YOU LOST THE ELECTION GIVE IT UP......3,000 AMERICANS LIVES LOST ON 9/11 REPUKITARDS SAY NOTHING! 4 AMERICAN LIVES LOST THEY CRY FOR CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS AGAINST THE PRESIDENT! WHAT A JOKE!

        November 20, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • a. starks

      The Republican House by cutting security funding.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Reply
      • Madrep

        My question was WHO gave the Stand Down order and Why? Not who cut funding.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • El Flaco

      The Pentagon.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Reply
      • Madrep

        I could buy that, but WHY?

        November 20, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
      • Cynthia L.

        Did you read the article, if you didn't then don't bother to keep asking WHY?! What I want to know is why JOHN McCAIN didn't go to the intel community's big dog meeting. Ask WHY about that.
        McCain's time on the Intelligence Commitee is coming to an end. I say good to that if he can't even show up after going on the different news programs wanting answers.
        He wants a special committee to find facts we already have, spending boatloads of taxpayer money so he can stay revelent. He's headed to Indian Affairs as his next gig and obviously thinks that isn't glamourous enough and this stunt by he, Graham and the ever-annoying Rand Paul just made the GOP look more and more fraught with hysteria. Fox Entertainment News is twisting like taffy in the meltdown of their fav party boys.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • Bitterjack

      It came straight from Hillary herself. She even admitted it. The request for more security was denied by Obama's Secretary of State. Not even you die hard Obama fanatics can deny that.
      However, I'm not going to argue with you Obama fanbois. Instead of admitting facts, you'll:
      1) some how blame Bush
      2) blame the GOP
      3) start insulting me personally.
      Same old liberal response. It is old. seriously

      November 20, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department's worldwide security protection program – well below the $2.15  billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration's request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration's request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans' proposed cuts to her department would be "detrimental to America's national security" – a charge Republicans rejected.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
      • Bobby Jindal

        Hey Bitterjack,
        It's time for Republicans to stop being the stupid party.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • Mark

      Do you even know what you are angry about?

      Benghazi is IRRELEVANT

      November 20, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Reply
    • Get over it ALREADY

      I thought the stand down nonsense was already debunked. Geez...I can't keep my conspiracy theories straight. Ugh!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Reply
    • CommonVoice

      No one. The "Stand Down" order was never given.

      You are a few weeks behind on the news.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Reply
  86. tom jamieson

    all of you people should be go through the fox new re-education school first remove your brain then insert your foot then shove it up your ass there you go all fixed. Now you can talk like all the other loser repucitains

    November 20, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Reply
    • Question

      Out of curiosity, would you be willing to clean up your run-on sentence, fix some obvious errors, and form a legible statement? Otherwise, your entire point, whatever it may have been is completely lost.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Reply
      • rosethornne

        I was able to follow his meaning quite easily.
        Here, allow me to translate:

        If'n yew watches the entertainment known as fox news and yew calls it real news and believes it, yew is a idjit.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
  87. Slowgun

    I think it's time for folks to listen to Governor Jindal.
    Bobby Jindal called on Republicans to "stop being the stupid party".

    FYI – All of Fox's attempts to make the President look bad didn't and won't work.
    He won the election.
    He won the popular vote.
    He won every battle ground state.
    Time for Republicans and Fox to come up with a different game plan. Maybe start working for the country instead of their party...just maybe.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Reply
    • a. starks

      Bobby' s just trying to position himself for a presidential run in 2016. Ask anyone in Louisiana: he's a terrible governor and will be a TERRIBLE candidate if he gets the nomination. So I'm rooting for him.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Reply
      • ADAM4X4

        You think like me. I often vote for the Repub with the least chance of winning in the primaries. Then in the election I vote for the Democrat. Hopefully, in two years we can get rid of some Tea Party idiots. I grew up favoring the Republicans but today their party is full of dangerous people.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Tom Wittmann

      And you can add: acted correctly the Benghazi problem

      1) The alleged failure to handle security:
      If the main interested, Ambassador Stevens, with full knowledge of the facts, considered safe enough to visit the Consulat in Benghazi, can anybody criticize the WHITE HOUSE (through the intelligence community) to have thought so too??

      2) The intelligence community, not the White House, has made the relevant changes of Petreus taking points, as you do not reveal to the public (i.e. to the terrorists) unclear facts of an investigation, using the same criteria as any police during an unfinished investigation

      November 20, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Reply
    • Mark McDonnell

      Tell that to Harry Reid.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Reply
  88. a. starks

    Senator McCain: just apologize to the pretty lady and go take a nap.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      He doesnt have the inetegrity to apologize

      November 20, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Reply
      • ADAM4X4

        I am so disappointed in Senator McCain, lately.. It's like he's getting senile, starting with picking Sarah Palin as his running mate. I think he is actually jealous of the President. He has gone from patriot/warrior to spoiled brat trouble maker. Sad.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • Tom Wittmann

      Not only McCAIN, but KING and in lesser degree ROGERS, which should not only apologize but resign from the Congress, for interfering in the work of the intelligence community.

      But this does not mean that Mrs. Rice is qualified to be secretary of state!!!
      She lack of experience and more important, the personality to act on international level in such difficult times. This is very different as acting in the UN acting under instructions of the White House, even if important too

      November 20, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Reply
      • Cynthia L.

        The Secretary of State position represents the current President serving and represent the policies of the administration's they serve. Doesn't matter which party.
        Susan Rice's UN Ambassador role qualifies her without question, as the person serving in that role knows of the international concerns of the different countries that have membership. She already knows the Ambassadors of the current body of participants. They know her. She has been doing a fine job there and would make an excellent Sec. of State under the Obama Administration.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
  89. Bush Family Are Nazi's

    So the republicans want TRUTH? You mean TRUTH like this: The Bush family funded the Nazi's and had JFK killed by using EH Hunt as the hit man under the direction of GH Bush because JFK wanted to reign in the MIC and the FED.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Reply
    • Madrep

      WOW..no wonder Obama won

      November 20, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Reply
      • Hahahahhahaha

        Google it repuke!! Hahahhahahaha

        November 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
      • Tom Wittmann

        But certainly Obama can do without friends like this piece of excrement.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
      • DB

        No wonder romney lost!
        Lookup Prescott Bush sheep!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
  90. scarf

    Republicans never let facts interfere with a cherished belief (see global warmiing, evolution, "tax cuts create jobs," etc.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Reply
    • .

      Democrats never let facts interfere with a cherished belief (see global warmiing, evolution, "tax increases create jobs," etc

      NEAT! I CAN DO IT TOO!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        But not very well. Try again

        November 20, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
      • andy

        Copying isn't very original.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
  91. beevee

    This is a slap on McCain and Sen. Graham's face as they try to use this fiasco to take it to the level of Watergate type investigation and were tarnish the image of president obama as he gets into his 2nd term as POTUS. The old coot McCain is still sore about his loss in 2008 election to president Obama. Idiot.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Reply
    • ADAM4X4

      Thanks for bringing up Watergate. There was a criminal act and Nixon was the principal conspirator. Also, the intent was to subvert the democratic process. Leaving something out of an iniital press release to protect security assets and investigations are not comparable. Damn GOP! What has happened to you people? Once upon a time the GOP was the party of integrity. You're in the toilet, now.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Reply
  92. FParana

    John McCain should be dropped over North Viet Nam by parachute in hopes that they take hm back.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Reply
    • jaketinback

      John McCain may be old and like the rest of us, wrong at times but he has more guts in his little finger than I would surmise you have in your whole body. He served and suffered for his country for years. What have you done?

      November 20, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Reply
      • FParana

        I've come up with a good idea.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
      • jaketinback

        FParana...Yeah your idea is to sit on your tired butt and spew garbage on your computer while someone else is fighting for your right to do so. Brave little soldier that you are.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
      • scott

        FParana, "good" is a subjective term. Prove to us all, since you made the claim, that your ideas are in fact good. We're all waiting.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
  93. thepoint

    Republicans should spend more time trying to save their party. This is a deflection, and the investigation will get to the bottom of it.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Reply
  94. a. starks

    Republicans claim every "fact" they're presented with is either media bias or part of a massive cover-up. They only time they were forced to face reality was on election day. Hasn't been 3 weeks and they're already back in pixie land.

    November 20, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
    • john

      A couple of weeks ago the head of the CIA probably would not let this "fact" pass his lips. the General is a cheat but I am betting he wouldnt lie for the potus. Pixie lind indeed!!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Reply
  95. Mark Robins

    What total and unadulterated BS!

    November 20, 2012 at 11:56 am | Reply
    • a. starks

      Yea! Stupid facts!

      November 20, 2012 at 11:58 am | Reply
  96. wade

    I wonder how much they paid this person so be the fall guy?

    November 20, 2012 at 11:52 am | Reply
    • Mark

      AY, I heard that conspiracy talking point on Fox News too

      November 20, 2012 at 11:54 am | Reply
  97. james

    What is wrong with McCain?
    Is this old age or something else?

    November 20, 2012 at 11:52 am | Reply
    • where_is_jimmy_hoffa

      McCain is a senile old coot that has had mental issues ever since Nam. He needs medical help.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Reply
  98. Duke

    Does anyone really expect anything good from this failure called Obama? He's a community organizer who only knows how to campaign via slander and pander and gifts. American's voted for one word: FREE. They voted for celebrity, they are a bunch of ignorant people who have been educated by government schools. Sad but that's the facts.

    November 20, 2012 at 11:49 am | Reply
    • Mark

      Fox News has trained you well.

      November 20, 2012 at 11:51 am | Reply
      • Libacryte

        and Mucho Socialist National Barack Channel (MSNBC) has trained you well – are you starting to get "tingly legs" yet?

        November 20, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • jnpa

      Hey, the election is over. These were repub talking points about a month ago! Catch up to reality!

      November 20, 2012 at 11:52 am | Reply
    • El Flaco

      Obama is doing a pretty good job.

      The Republicans you voted for are subversives who are trying to destroy our nation.

      Conservative words: "We will make America fail. We will block everything that Obama tries. We will hold the country hostage until we win the White House. We will make Americans suffer until they vote for us."

      November 20, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
    • Get over it ALREADY

      This from the party who called Obama a snob when he said he wanted everyone to go to college. Which is it? Super-smart or Super-dumb? Repubs are walking oxymorons....or rather the latter half of that moniker.

      November 20, 2012 at 11:58 am | Reply
    • edzepp

      Are you really so painfully out of touch with reality that you actually believe what you're saying, Duke? Try thinking on your own and don't let Hannity eat your brain.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Reply
    • angie

      Please do watch other channels as well not only fox news.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Reply
  99. Mark

    PaganObservation

    He is Commander in Chief, but 1) Embassies are the responsibility of the State Department, 2) GOP blocked the request to fund additional troops in that Embassy, and 3) Intelligence reports were a mess with multiple explanations and multiple suggestions as to who/what was responsible. The point should be to fix the procedures that led to the mistakes rather than waste time pointing fingers because, ultimately, multiple agencies, including Congress, failed.

    November 20, 2012 at 11:48 am | Reply
    • Sully

      For the vast majority of what you said, the exact opposite is true.

      November 20, 2012 at 11:52 am | Reply
      • Mark

        Baa baa....

        You are kinda cute Sully

        November 20, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • El Flaco

      Dead on, Mark.

      November 20, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
    • JBB

      You can't fix procedure without an investigation to help understand what/where/why went wrong? The President has failed to move this investigation "forward", just as Congress has failed to form a bipartisan committee to put an end any lingering questions. Diane Feinstein, who heads the Senate Intelligence Committee, is finally getting involved, so maybe this will finally get resolved and Congress will then concentrate on the fiscal cliff.

      November 20, 2012 at 11:58 am | Reply
    • Mike

      on your second point you're saying the GOP single handedly stopped any additional funding to provide troop security at that specific embassy? That's your stance? Do you have a specific roll call vote on that particular issue where all Republicans voted against and all Dems voted for the funding? Otherwise you're spouting MSNBC lies.
      On your third point you state that intel reports were a mess. Yet that didn't stop ambassador Rice from immediately blaming a video and a demonstration while at the same time saying terrorists were not to blame on multiple news outlets.
      If the intel was that bad the best thing for her to have done would simply be to keep her mouth shut and say that they didn't have all the facts yet and when they did they would tell us.
      Instead she was hoping for this to be brushed under the carpet until after the election.
      Doesn't seem to have mattered much anyway because, as always, Obama and his spin machine made the whole mess look like Republican witch hunting and that nothing was their fault (typical Obama finger pointing) and the millions of brain dead drones who feed off his lies bought it hook, line, and sinker and voted for him anyway.
      Congrats you got what you wanted. I just hope WE don't live to regret YOUR decision to re-elect an imbecile.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department's worldwide security protection program - well below the $2.15  billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration's request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration's request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans' proposed cuts to her department would be "detrimental to America's national security" - a charge Republicans rejected.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
      • gho`

        Actually, Chafftez has admitted for the record that republicans voted against funding for security. Which is why the narrative changed.

        Anyone else notice how this all started in trying to find out why requests for additional security were denied? And that once it was shown that republicans voted to decrease funding,it became about when the president said the word terror? And once that was taken away, it moved to why Rice said one thing and then another. And now that that has been resolved, republicans will either find another piece to dissect or become suddenly quiet until the next news cycle.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
      • PaganObservation

        First of all, that post was originally mine and Mark reposted it. Secondly, I am an independent so insulting me by labeling me a Liberal is plain ingnorance on your part. Thirdly, Susan Rice was given talking points that the intelligence community made for her (see the article). The multiple streams of intelligence made it extremely difficult to label one organization or to pin point exactly what sparked this. It would take over a month to come up with specific information, but the people wanted to know what happened so that is what they got. This shouldn't be about politics and it shouldn't be about blame. It should be about fixing the problem so it doesn't happen again.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
      • Sharon

        The truth of the matter is that the only story you will ever believe, however much it is investigated, is that Obama engineered the whole fiasco. No one and nothing will convince the 'haters' that Obama is innocent of all of their hateful accusations. My opinion: You are all sick in the head, filled with hate because we elected a black democrat as POUS. Get over it or get out. Maybe you can find some other country where racisim is still tolerated. You make me sick.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
  100. GIUK

    The Republicans don't care about facts. This story changes nothing in their minds. Or, excuse me....what passes for a Republican mind.

    November 20, 2012 at 11:48 am | Reply
    • Mark

      It is the last cry of the mohicans. Soon the GOP will be gone forever

      AMEN!

      Thank you GOD!

      November 20, 2012 at 11:49 am | Reply
      • fran

        You should really try and buy some nourishment for your brain when you go shopping with your food stamps..!!!!!

        November 20, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • Mike

      Isn't that what you idiot liberals said four years ago? Then 2010 happened and you had your A$$ handed to you in the mid-terms.
      There are no coat-tails to hang onto in 2014 so you better hope the country turns around quickly or you'll be losing not only the Senate but any chance at your boy from getting anything done in his second term.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Reply
      • Get over it ALREADY

        There goes that race baiting noise that makes most non-whites dislike you repubs SO much...oh...and will ensure that you guys NEVER win a general election again. Keep on keeping on since it's working out for you SO well.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
      • Truth

        Wow Mike, you sound bitter... Be careful not to set before a mooving bus or jump out of high rise. Life has to go on man.. Eat you humble pie and have a great thanksgiving...

        November 20, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
      • JOE

        Get over it ALREADY--Dont think so, handouts will go away with the idiot libt-rds

        November 20, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
      • michael

        Repukitards are neocon turds with exlax mentality and in need of kaopectate for their brains! House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012." (Washington Post). How about those TWELVE embassies and consulates that were attacked between 2001 and 2008? One of our diplomats, David Foy, was killed in Pakistan in 2006. Where was the outrage then? REPUKITARDS YOU LOST THE ELECTION GIVE IT UP......3,000 AMERICANS LIVES LOST ON 9/11 REPUKITARDS SAY NOTHING! 4 AMERICAN LIVES LOST THEY CRY FOR CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS! WHAT A JOKE!

        November 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
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