By Barbara Starr
As a commissioned officer in the military reserves, Paula Broadwell's security clearance would be "secret" or "top secret," which would allow her access to classified documents, according to military officials.
But exercising a security clearance depends on the type of job a person has, said the officials who spoke privately about the matter because Broadwell is entangled in an investigation of her ties to former CIA Director David Petraeus.
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She has been identified as his mistress. The affair forced the former four-star general to resign his post last week. She also co-authored a biography about him.
Related: Who might replace Petraeus at the CIA
As CNN first reported, her government security clearance was suspended pending the outcome of ongoing investigations, two U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the matter said.
Broadwell, currently a military intelligence reservist, is assigned to the Army's military academy at West Point, New York, according to her service record which lists her present assignment as "United States Military Academy Staff & Faculty." She was promoted to the rank of lieutenant colonel in August.
A source told CNN National Security contributor Fran Townsend that Broadwell was acting as Petraeus' archivist and had documents related to his military career and that the FBI went to her house in North Carolina to look for any documents she might have.
Investigators have found classified information on a computer belonging to Broadwell, a law enforcement source told Townsend. But it was not clear if this was a computer seized at her home or one she had previously given to authorities when she cooperated with their inquiries about the Petraeus matter in September, Townsend said.
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Broadwell's clearance and rights to view documents could put her in legal jeopardy if she did not follow the procedures.
Under federal law, if Broadwell has classified material in her home she must show she has authority to have it, that it relates to her work in military intelligence and that she is following all security and safety measures to safeguard the material, military officials told CNN.
Broadwell has said that she was working on a second book about Petraeus. Her LinkedIn profile lists her as "Archivist/Biographer for General (Retired) David Petreaus." Her first book, 'All In,' was a look at Petraeus' leadership.
Broadwell has spoken about how she had to deal with sensitive information in the course of researching her first book.
"I had to follow very clear lines of non-disclosure and sign non-disclosure agreements, like my colleagues. I felt like I was almost held to a higher level of accountability because I could lose my clearance," Broadwell said in a speech last year. "I think it was important to inform my writing, but I knew there was a clear line that I couldn't cross when I was writing it out."
Petraeus insists he never shared classified information with Broadwell, said retired military officer John Nagl who has spoken with Petraeus in recent days.
The intertwining of Broadwell's military role and her close access to Petraeus, makes the investigation complicated, said Townsend.
"As a reservist, she had, we're told, top-secret compartmented information clearance. But that clearance is only in place, if you will, active when she's on reserve duty. Clearly when she was embedded with Petraeus, getting ready as his biographer to write a book, that clearance didn't apply," said Townsend.
Townsend said where it gets really complicated is if Broadwell was privvy to information gleaned while being given access while writing the book.
"So she really should not have been given access. And she wouldn't have unless David Petraeus walked her into the room and invited her into these classified briefings," Townsend said. "You know, if the general brings her into a room where there's a classified conversation, you really put the onus then on his subordinates to raise the question of whether or not they can talk in front of her.
"And, of course, they're taking their signal from the general. If he's bringing her in, it's implicit that they're able to speak in front of her. And so I think this is a pretty complicated investigation, both for the FBI and for the Justice Department," Townsend said.
Senior federal law enforcement officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told CNN that there is no indication Petraeus disclosed classified material to Broadwell.
The Army refused to publicly confirm the suspension of Broadwell's security clearance, first reported on CNN, but issued a statement:
"The Army has been cooperating with federal law enforcement authorities in this matter, and those actions are ongoing. Appropriate actions with regard to this officer's clearance and access have been taken," said George Wright, deputy director of Army media relations.
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The words of the Rich Prophets are written on the subway walls and tenament halls - visions of money were planted in Lazurus' brain - as the Obamice bowed and prayed to the Blue Neon God the media made - the GOP was writing songs that Secular Progressive voices never shared - and the Media will never dare disturb the sounds of Obamice silence.
Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere?
REDFIREBALL means angry gay man in Swahili.
She should be held accountable like any other citizen. LTCol Broadwell only exists when she on orders. And working at the academy is a bogus job,, just a placemark for someone without purpose.
Protocol would be arrested or arraigned as a civilian.
Her Mil clearance is thereby rejected and ends. Period, no one walks away from having classified in their house or on their personal computer.
She faces the music by the feds, then faces a NJP from the military.
End game.
I like hats. Do you like hats? hats hats hats! hats for all!
Simply have classified material at home does not mean it was not properly safeguarded. You can apply to have a room or container approved to have classified material located/stored within it. You can also be an approved courier for transporting classified material as long as it is properly secured. Did you know that the Postal Service is an approved courier of classified information? They have rules on what they have to do if the item they are carrying became compromized (in fact, they (as in the carriers) will typically not even know the item in question is classified as it is boxed/wrapped in such a way that there are no visible markings, but if the wrapping is breached or compromised there is information on those additional layers of wrapping which indicate that it is classified and they are to contact their local FBI field office for instructions).
VERY few individuals in today's environment are authorized to take classified material home – especially a reservist O-5. There is nothing you need to do at home that you cannot perform in your area of work. The SF312 is a lifetime agreement by executive order and public law, regardless if you are "on orders" or not. If she possessed any classifeid material beyond the bounds it was authorized for (usually the work area it is stored or accessed in), she is liable for federal charges, pending investigation outcome. Suspension of a clearance due to an incident can be initiated by any security manager under the direction of authority (such as a commander, since they are directly responsible for the individual), but can also be executed by DISCO, AFCAF, or other levels of DoD as required. There are mandatory timelines involved with suspensions, depending on the specific service. Most likely her military unit held ownership of the clearance, but the suspension came from higher up. If the investigation turns out little or no wrongdoing, she can apply for reinstatement. I've seen people with criminal records get them back, so she should be good to go if things go well.
Civilian authors and journalists have this clearance and authorization? She doesnt.
Just part of the big international game - you will learn as you watch and suffer soon
Talk about ho! that is one ugly gal!...LOL!
That's your opinion, m'man! Your opinion!
Recession soon to come back harder - taxes cut deep - deep cuts in expenditures - nothing will be left to give away to poor little blue obamice - Richman already warned Lazurus
Help me if I am wrong here, but doesn't losing security clearance in effect end her career in the US Army.
US Army fired beaurocratic style. wipshaaaaaa
big picture answer Yes kind of hard to work in intelligence field without access to classified material. but I'm sure they will just reassign her
Uh maaaan ... other generals say
Donald Trump and Warren Buffett - they smile and wait in the silent shadows - they know something. DT never "irrelevant" - soon the little blue Obamice run away. Nothing to do with "fiscal cliff." The media was already told - but did it listen? No it did not.
Redfireball, Can I get some of the drugs you are taking? I mean seriously your life must be a major trip....
Ooookkkay Mr. Fireball. Time to back on your meds again. It appears you've lost your mind again.
did they make her turn in her camouflage straightjacket too?
I wonder what General really thought about sleeping with other people wife before it went bust. I'm interested about his true opinion and not "the colossal mistake" made up for public after he was caught.
Was he probably thinking that ... man I'm even smarter than Clinton!!... or ...F%ck Kennedy for not knowing how to cover his s&%t... or ... I showed myself that I can do this even as CIA boss ...
Please suggest.
When my brother's wife left him for another man, she said, "The heart wants what the heart wants." A year later the guy nearly beat her to death.
I guess the heart is pretty stupid.
This affair was a lack of self control and restraint,which is what all infidelity in marriages is about. His affair with her was over for months before this came to light. There is never any justification for infidelity yet it happens all the time. We must however give credit where credit is due on the Generals part. He did a superior job and it is unfortunate that he will not be there any longer. Although the General is taking full responsibility for this I am sure Mrs Broadwells played a huge role in instigating this. That doesn't however clear the General.
when is she going to lose her commission as well?
never different standards for female officers most that she will get is a quite place to finish up her 20 years
I know the politians are going to be jumping on this crisis to have it investigated to the nth degree. If that's the case I think we should demand that all senators & congressist's email be brought to the surface so we can find out if they're "squeaky clean" before they pass judment on others...just a thought.
Sounds fair at the beginning but if you think about it the invasion of General's privacy was justifiable on the basis of National Security. Pretty hard to make that argument against MCs and even harder to win it considering that there are over 500 of them. But members of intelligence committees should be OK to be scrutinized as such.
The FBI agents breached protocol when they started an investigation as a favor for a friend. Now they are desperate to find something they can charge someone with.
Obambi-poopie and his media spies cannot anticipate what will happen - only the GOP Machine knows -Obambi-poo cannot imagine what GOP will have waiting for him up in the hill soon
Are you 12 years old? If older your intellect is stuck at 12.
Texman, Apparently Mittens missed cancelling one of the troll credit cards. Might as well have some fun with him while he is still on the payroll, eh?
it's not his fault that he's a methbaby...
No "free stuff" available - the vote joke on the blind obamice - back to recession we go - not because of fiscal cliff–oh no no no -not that -something else is happening that you do not know about
All you have left is talk. Which is all you had in the first place.
It must just eat at your gut to be so inferior and know it.
Remove your dirty underwear and take a cold shower - be ready for what will come soon
Not wearing any underwear. Your mom just left. Couldn't say goodbye, though. Her mouth was full.
Actually, I am surprised you guys are still trolling. After Mittens cancelled your credit cards the second he lost, I figured you would all go back to the shelter.
Redfireball's mom was here after she left your home, she complained about him.. it seems his dad is Mitten himself and he's as bad in bed as he is in running a campaign
Having a security clearance does not automatically allow one to have unbridled access to sensitive information. One must also have the NEED TO KNOW the sensitive information, and that would (I hope) be more than simply to get the information for writing a biography. Typically, one has a NEED TO KNOW to allow one to do their job on the Government's payroll, not on the personal payroll of some General.
The rich GOP Machine will take away Obamice "free stuff" -- all that free stuff Obama promised you for otes - you will not feel exploited no more because we do not want your votes - you will have nothing soon. Buffett can donate half his fortune to the U.S. Treasury if he is that concerned, then go away with the Donald T. - Republican money not for obamice - all the poor blind Obamice. LMFAO
sore
loser
with
emphasis
on
LOSER!
Go away patsy poo - better kenneth suffer in silence - suffer the little obamice .
loser..loser...get lost!
The entertainment value just keeps rising. For people who are (allegedly) so smart, they sure appear to be dumb. You know there has to be at least a few 'compromising' pictures of these two fools in all those emails. Wonder how long it will take for them to come to light??
Holly Petraeus must be shell-shocked over the whole thing. She's probably wondering how much worse it can get. I suspect there's more dirt to follow. I feel sorry for her. The rest of these characters are a bunch of clowns.
HINT FOR THE BLIND OBAMICE: Wall Street endorsed Gov. Romney before election. The stocks were climbing in anticipation of a Romney win. Did you know that? CNN never told you huh? Now we go back into deeper recession because of Obama win. Bad economic news and deep legal trouble waiting for Obama - did you know that? CNN never told you huh? LMFAO Too too bad for you, little blind obamice.
I hear the whining of a sore loser.
The joke is on you
Thanks to GOP / GOTP like you there will be a democrat in the oval office for the next four years and the fours years after that.
But, I am still trying to figure out why you are posting to this article. Do you have the same Rovian script for all of the articles?
We Republicans want the Obamice to get use to losing all that pomised "free stuff" as cuts in expenditures are finally forced - unlike during Reagan, Clinton and Bush years. We are going back into recession, and it has nothing to do with the fiscal cliff crap. No more taxation of the upper income since we are going back into recession. All good democrats POTUS knew it –Kennedy and Clinton knew it. So suffer all the little blue blind mice. Soon your Almighty God will be decapitated by Congress. Suffer the poor little dumb blind mice once we gain full power.
Want to share whatever it is you are smoking there chief?
Romnesia Red - taste good. None for you though. You had your chance. We know something you do not know. It is all part of the grand master plan. You lose (wink)
Keep hope alive, DeadHairBall. Keep hope alive.
I voted for Obama and chances are good that I pay more in federal taxes than you earn. No one gives me nothing. My father was a field worker, my mother worked in a dry cleaners. I went through college on my GI Bill because I served my nation. So F you and your ignorant ranting BS.
Just keep talking! The more repubilcan crazies like you talk, the less votes you will get next time.
Dear paranoid schizophrenic,
Your incoherent ramblings carry no weight when rife with miss-spellings and words you seemingly just made up, more-over your logic is soundly flawed. 85% of Americans disagree with you (raising taxes on the rich.) Please pick up a book to gather information, for Fox news is largely opinion and little fact. Parroting what you hear is not independent free thought….
P.S. You should feel embarrassed about your lack of command at syntax and grammar. If you can’t communicate your thoughts in a logical coherent manner through writing then it shows a very low education level, thus negating serious weight being lent to your “arguments.”
el-CIA-duh hates the military for their discipline,
awaits for conduct unbecoming an officer, and adultery. Article 15 hearing
More is beneath the blankets.
Similar to Julian Assange and the CIA ladies of easy virtue,
Paula is embedded in a General take-down.
... her husband will follow soon. I mean she'll lose her within next 100 days... I bet.
CIA directors have more important things to do than their jobs...duh!
Banging chicks is waaaay more important.
I bet this wasn't the first for Petraeus either...just look at his lame looking wife. He has probably been banging chicks for decades!!
Kelley was probably tossing it around in front of him too...probably part of a little bang circle that they keep adding chicks to over the years.
Full of I bets and probablys. Meaning you don't know for certain sooo do us all a favor and STFU.
You are obviously a real class act. Probably how you know so much about 'banging chicks'?
All of the pictures of the general and this woman are pretty cheesy. He really liked her. Now how can you have all this security clearance and write a threatening email? Duh?
I guess that it is the same type of thought process that compelled a woman space shuttle astronaut to drive cross country in a diaper with the apparent intent to kill or injure her co-worker boyfriend's newest "love" interest.
The first thing I learned as a 96B20 in Army Intelligence was to keep my mouth shut! Apparently, they don't teach that anymor. If Paula had just kep this to herself, it may not have ever been known!
Paula does get around - Time to investigate Carl !
"Karl Rove and Paula Broadwell (Kranz) – Operation Egg Timer"
who's gonna investigate the rogue FBI investigators and look into rogue CIA spies' records? no one is squeeky clean and perfect. blackmailing works everytime.
CIA, FBI, MI7, NSA, Fusion Centers, TSA and Homeland Security need to Secretly investigate each other.
She has not lost her clearance she has lost her access. There is a big difference. The only concept one needs to know about the intelligence community is the "need to know". One can have the highest security clearance with whatever trailer and unless they have the "need to know" even confidential information is beyond their access.
Just another reason not to allow women in the military...
Spoken like a True Republican Misogynist.
LBGT operatives in the Black House are at the root of U$ problems.
I'm a Democrat. It may be politically incorrect but my post is absently true..
Misogyny exists in the LBGT Black House - Hence the Paula Persecution.
Hilary ordered Benghazi Stand Down - Where is the investigation ?
Takes two to tango, nutjob.
No woman, no woody...
Don't ask, don't tell.
IIndeed
Wow, the underbelly is really out in force today.
zlop, not getting any dates are we?
Democrat....Republican.....makes no difference.
Your post paints you as an idiot.
Sorry.....just callin' it as I see it.
I'm still amazed at the stupidity of David Patraeus . . . you would think someone in his position in life would make wiser choices. Says a lot about him, not to mention the scuz bag with whom he cheated on his wife!
No integrity whatsoever! And NOW . . . no credibility either!
"Mistress" they actually referred to her as his "MISTRESS"? THAT sure sounds like ancient grumblings form the Good-Ole-Boy network, don't it?
I think the term fling would be more appropriate. Even with her education and background, she was vulnerable to jealousy and poor judgment. It did her in as well as Petraeus. Very interesting turn of events. She should have talked and E-mailed less and certainly with caution. Silence is golden......really.
She should have her security clearance revoked permanently. She allegedly had classified information on her personal computer. This is a major security violation.
Go Paula. Nailed the top general! Now move on.
Nope sorry not the top general. Hell not even a general. Wanna try again? The man hasn't been a general for months now. Just cause they keep showing him in uniform why does everybody still refer to him as general. He's NOT.
This woman is dangerous and she should be kept away from matches and gerbils.
I can see gerbils, but "matches?"
This women is POS that feeds on high power officals. She sould be kicked out of the military and not allowed around classifed information.
Ditto what Matt said!
Broadwell: Shouldn't she be held accountable under the UCMJ for the affair? That's against the UCMJ
they are both commisioned officers, so no,
Yes affairs are punishable under UCMJ. Regardless of rank!
No THEY are not both commissioned officers. He is RETIRED. Still trying to figure out why everybody is referring to him as general.
Adultry is most definitely a UCMJ violation – even between consenting officers. It doesn't matter if she was active reserve or inactive reserve at the time. There could even be perceived as "fraternization" as well based on differences in their ranks. At a minimum, she should receive a punitive letter of reprimand in effect putting an end to her military career. No difference in her and the diaper lady.
If the assignations occurred at any time while she was on active military orders she can be courts-martialed for adultery, even if he was "retired." However, general officers are never actually retired, so he is liable for charges also. In addition, she can face a Conduct unbecoming an officer charge. She should also be "dismissed" (dishonorable discharge equivalent for an officer) . No doubt she'll try for a RILO (resignation in lieu of charges) but the Sec Army would have to sign off on it. There are lots of officers who got courts-martialed for those charges and went to Leavenworth for a while. She knew better, all officers are briefed routinely on this, so no way she didn't know. She's a disgrace.
When I went through a security clearance investigation my supervisor told me “As long as you don’t default on loan payments or cheat on your spouse, you will be all set”. Being dishonest with a spouse could also lead to other unfavorable behaviors in the clearance official mind.
I’ve heard of people losing clearances with the same conclusion. You will either be cross trained to a new duty that doesn’t require a clearance or be forced to leave the military. In this case, both will probably see the latter happen to them.
Sadly, that is the least of their problems. Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), Article 134-Adultery, on top of any potential security violations, rules they may have also broken.
When does Petraeus lose his security clearance?
The minute his resignation was accepted. He also lost them once he retired from the Army, but got them back when he started his job as head of the CIA. Difference is she is still an active reservist.
Why won't they mention the speech Broadwell gave at her alma mater stating that there were Libyan militants were locked up in the CIA annex a month ago? Also that Petraeus was upset about not being JCS.
Give the poor dear a Obama fome.
That would be a Reagan-phone. Reagan started the program.
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Regans program was small by comparison to obmas and it was for home phone service for people curently seeking employment so prospective employers could contact them not free cell phones for everyone. Please state all the facts or keep your #$ to yourself
'Regans program was small by comparison to obmas and it was for home phone service for people curently seeking employment so prospective employers could contact them not free cell phones for everyone. Please state all the facts or keep your #$ to yourself'
ok lets state the facts then.....the program was expanded, and cell phones added by Bush Jnr.
LOL @ fome!
Reagan started the home land lines...GWBush moved it to the cell phones...becuase the poor usually live in high crime areas too and adults and kids feel safer and are safer with a cell phone on them...So you can blame the GOP for actually having a heart and caring about the poor....Ironic that the tea party members still are using the wrong information to attack the Democrats....it just goes back to the GOP...Like Reagan selling WMD's to Saddam in Iraq...and the British and German's did too...That is why they agreed that Saddam had WMD's...They sold them to Iraq and Saddam from 1980 to 1988...and the French stayed out of that Iraqi war, becuase they knew about the WMD's weapon sales too....and why should they go fight for the mistakes of Reagan and the British and the German's...Germany sold Saddam and entire chemical weapon factory....
Patraeus is a Republican, is he not?
do you know any military NOT republican ? it is in the "genes"......
Broadwell did not "lose her clearance" as the CNN headline states. The clearance is suspended. She *might* lose her clearance, depending upon the outcome of the investigation. She also might not, that's why there is an investigation.
But saying she's lost it already is the same as calling any suspect guilty - depriving them of due process.
Orin Hatch told the whole world we were listening to Bin Laden's cell phone calls...and we lost a huge source of information, because Bin Laden never used a cell phone again...and just what did the GOP in Congress do to Orin Hatch...nothing....
All a member of Congress has to do to read classified information, is sign a piece of paper that says they will not talk about it...It is an insult to all the rest of the people that have to have full background investigations, and one on one interviews,..and more to have acess to the same classified information....
Orrin Hatch needs to go . . . as does Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, John McCain and numerous others who do nothing but live the good life on our dime! Orrin Hatch, especially, makes me want to puke! I don't know how these people continually get re-elected . . . they need to GO!
Oh . . . and let's not forget Lindsey Graham . . . this "representative of the people" seems to think he's running this country all by himself, but he won't even accept an email from anybody who is not in his "district." He needs to go, too!
CNN probably has it all wrong. She probably had her Access suspended. And since the term Clearance is now actually referred to as eligibility, (although everyone still calls it a Clearance. Blame DSS for that!) I don't think the person who wrote this really did their homework.
Depending on how all this develops, she might lose her commission.
I wonder who hooked her up with Reserve drill duty at West Point as part of the faculty. Talk about a nice REMF job, that must take connections. Oh, forgot, she hung out with the top brass.
If there were a REMF medal, she would have one with golden oak clusters.
Couldn't agree more..
Broadway sent an anonymous email with the dates of nonpublic meetings General Allen's was having and the head of the CIA....That was a huge security issue...and what made the FBI start there investigation....These people are suppose to understand security...none of them seem to have a clue what is possible these days....fools.....one and all....These emails could have been scanned by a terrorist groups and used those meetings to attack high level US government people right here in the US when they felt they were the safest...and not on gaurd....very dangerous.....
This really seems to me to be much ado about nothing. Two top military people with the highest respect for the military and the nation's security, of opposite genders, working closely together, fell in love. Being married to others, it wasn't right, but it happens, and most of us have felt that way. Usually we don't follow our emotions, and these two ended their clandestine relationship. Both are the most trustworthy people, more trustworthy than nearly everyone reading this. So let's not try to make any more political hay and get on with the business of running and protecting the country.
What's love got to do with it? I didn't hear either one say anything about love. Your logic is funny – they should be trusted solely because they wear a uniform.
It's a second-hand emotion.
Dear Tina, we don't need another hero!
Kpspe is truly the biggest flake in this conversation: "Both are the most trustworthy people, more trustworthy than nearly everyone reading this." Cite their humanity and how each of us has failings all you want. He doesn't get to be noted as a "highly trustworthy" person, after having an affair on his trusting wife of 37 years. People who DO NOT betray those close to them are trustworthy. Is he an enemy of the country, no. But he failed at "trustworthy" in his career and in his marriage, which is why he is no longer at his position. As did she. I don't know what planet you live on. These actions cannot be given leeway.
But Tina, you made my morning! Thanks for the laugh you two! Hilarious!
I believe that no security information was probably breached or leaked in anyway. What I beg to differ with you about is the frolicking and the parties and such that went on in my home town of Tampa, down in the incestuous South Tampa neighborhood on Bayshore. Why were the Kelly's allowed access to the Base? Why were the general's frolicking around at drunken parties and dinner's at Bern's that cost 100's of dollars a plate? Why are they writing letters of support to the twin sister of the Kelly woman, getting in the middle of a custody battle, when even the judge disagreed with them. It is indicative of their ability to make judicious and correct judgement calls. Things went on in that little circle that have no place in the lives of top military brass in the middle of a war.
Well put. Agree.
Very well put . . . I also agree!
She is a spy, more clever than James Bond. Her book was her cover. Disagree? Please prove me wrong.
Disagree Prove me wrong. Seriously? Your argument fails. In fact, no, it doesn't fail, its just gets a penalty flag called on the play.
You can't just say whatever you want, then pass the onus to build a case on to the other party by declaring "prove me wrong." Its a bs tactic. In simple terms, its debate cheating. its means nothing and you have made no point.
I could just as easily say, "This entire incident was actually a coverup for an Illegal fantasy football gambling league run by Broadwell" prove me wrong.
Not sure what you are smoking. She was not a top level military officer. She was a reserve major which is considered a junior officer in all Services but the Marine Corps. Sleeping her way to the top doesn't make you well respected outside of the person making her yell 'Daddy" late at night.
This makes a good case for cutting the military budget, beginning with the salaries and pensions of vain, self-absorbed generals.
The money saved can be used to take care of the men and women who are serving our country faithfully and paying such a high price for their service.
These are the men and women who are not attending vain social events, and few books are being written about their personal lives of service and suffering.
I thought embedded meant something else. (Sorry, just could not let this go.)
::giggle::
"put the onus then on his subordinates to raise the question" Makes you wonder where the system fell through.
This is a sign of Nibiru 2012 the scientists have confirmed it see youtube.
Clearly when she was embedded with Petraeus, getting ready as his biographer to write a book, that clearance didn't apply," said Townsend.
Pun intended I'm sure.
Should revive Peyton Place.Fits better now than when.ADIOS
We have let this crap take the heat off the real government screwups.
Not as long as people like you are still around.
You know where you can put your disquis requirements and censorship.
Now it seems we have to give more of our privacy away just to access this commercial ridden site. Republican computers seem to have been shut down in the last few days on the sites where the big dogs like Cafferety and Anderson reside.You know on that old big white cloud above everyone else.We do not make a difference,Now there is one opinion controlled by CNN. You have the reigns,do with it as you choose we will always survive.
This young woman my go to jail as the American Government will not put up with security violations. I guess if it’s an American rank and file taxpayer that gets blown up by the foolish leaks of the Top Brass it’s all is ok? If you are enlisted you had better follow the rules, look at Pvt. Manly.
We could require celebates only to apply for the military.My advice is to throw the computers away.
We live in a world of the caught and uncaught. If it had been a couple of peons we would never had heard of this common occurance that man learned to adapt too many years ago.
I GUESS SHE HAS TO GIVE BACK HER HOTEL KEY ALSO.
The general just banged Paula! Who the f cares? You think we have national security secrets coded in the general's DNA? Hahahahahahahahahaha
What all of this teaches us is that if we are going to air our dirty laundry better keep the post office operating.Your life is out there everytime you post anything ,and the governent has enought high paid snoopers to keep employed, they must catch someone once in a while.
Broadwell will look hot in her prison jumpsuit. Hopes she's ready to spearhead the latest fashion look.
Here is what the media should ask: Did Lt. Col. Broadwell have acces to the SIPRNet? You know, the system PVT Bradley Manning has access to; downloaded info from, and sent to Wikileaks.....
Either as part of reserve officer duties or with the General.
There is no way she was "embedded" with the Generals staff without being exposed to classified information. 80 – 90% of the time the staff would be doing classified work. Just being in the same room there would be folders upon folders of classified stuff.
After spending 33 years with the U.S. Army I can assure you that this kind of stuff goes on all the time. Senior officers caught in adultery are rarely punished. They are either retired if eligible, or transferred to another post. If they were being mentored by a high ranking general it would all be swept under the rug. Generals are often very full of themselves, if they want something done that is against regulations they ask a officer in their command to get it done. That officer had better do it or he or she will go nowhere career wise. The longer I stayed and the higher I got in rank the more I saw that shook me, little real concern for the troops, just a lot of slogans like "Taking Care Of Soldiers". That one especially made me sick, but generated a lot of BS reports all designed to show how great the Army was doing. I spent my 33 years fighting for our enlisted soldiers, I had some small victories, but realized all to late how useless my effort really was!
Your military experience was very similar to mine. At my last duty station, the parking lot and the Personnel office were the only things that were not behind 3 layers of security. Then, once inside, there was a section of the building that was top secret that I did not have access to. I had a top secret clearance, but I did not have a need to know in that little corner of the building. Most people do not understand how the classification of sensitive material works.
BTW, you should see how it works when you are working with foreign nationals. Me and my British coworker both had Top secret clearance, but there were some confidential working papers that he could not see because they wre marked NOFORN (no foreign nationals). He needed access to do his job. When I asked about it, I was told "you can either let him see the stuff or do the work without his help. If anyone asks, we never had this conversation." I did the work myself, but believe me I considered letting him see the stuff!
you have become wise.
Why did Paula have to go jogging with Petraeus to listen to him while Jill only had to pick up the phone or send an email to get his ear? People like Jill only have access to people like Petreaus when they have dirt on them.
Just wondering, did Jill Kelley have the military steer work to her (now ex) brother-in-law, Grayson Wolfe's firm AKKADIAN? This is the same company that emerged from the Lincoln Group which got tons of money from the Bush admin for "contract work" in Iraq. The timeframe certainly fits. She moved to Tampa about a deacde ago, approximately the same time that Bush appointed Grayson assistant COO to the Export-Import Bank (2002). It seems he (and Kelley herself) would certainly benefit from such a relationship.
I think this whole thing is nothing but a "girl fight" gone horribly wrong... imagine what General P, General A, and the two husbands must be thinking...
Not such a stretch when you consider what others are saying about their encounters with her. For instance, in her position as “honorary consul” to the South Korean Embassy, Kelley solicited Adam Victor, president of the alternative energy company TransGas Development Systems citing the newly minted free-trade agreement between the US and South Korea as well as her “relationship” with Petraeus as enticements. However, he dropped her like a hot potato when she asked for $80 million whereas the industry standard would be around $100,000 for this type of deal.
i had to chuckle when i read an article quoting ms. broadwell as stating she and the general did six minute miles when they went jogging together in kabul. really!?
Most likely, they did. She was a runner in college, and he was career warfighter/generally fit guy.
It would seem "secret" is not a skill possessed by Ms. Broadwell.
The investigation is only complicated by the fact that he's a politically-connected four-star general.
If he were an O-5 or below, he would have already been tried, convicted and sentenced.
Yes well......hmmmmmm I dontt think wife Holly is at all happy...........smart people do dumb things......or is this all a set up so he doesnt have to testify before congress about bengazi......soon whats really going on here will come out Im sure.
Now hat she's lost her security clearance, she should also lose her husband and children in divorce proceedings.
Who's F care. She is laugh her way to the bank
Why would Broadwell send E-mails to another woman over the same man ( and both women are married with kids )
Not too smart, that is asking for trouble...
she wasn't thinking and maybe she thought he was eyeing the other woman..regardless I think all parties involved are married..so whats up with that?
Neither was a an astronaut wearing a diaper, and chasing down another women on the other side of the country.
Why is no one speaking of Broadwell being charged with adultery? Is this another double standard for women? This eqaulity for women only when it's beneficial movement has GOT TO STOP! If she's not chared wtih adultery then Congress needs to take a hard look at the role we've allowed women to step into in the military. Demand the truth. Demand JUSTICE!
Do you at allremember dont ask dont tell? This isnt about the role pf women its about the role of a little something called integrity......
Typically individuals only get charged with adultery if their conduct directly, negatively impacts the unit they are assigned to, or the Army in general. In Petraeus' case, that clearly applies. He was the one with access to classified information. Broadwell would not have had access to him if he had not desired her to. His actions impacted the military. If she was serving in an official function, she would be guilty also, but she was there as a civilian biographer.
It's about time that her security clearance was suspended. She has bragged about having it for years but for what purpose? Having any level of security clearance requires the utmost discretion which Ms. Broadwell seems to be incapable of displaying.
what a mess!
Just having a clearance doesn't give you a right to read secret material. You have to establish a "need to know."
Someone who knows what they're talking about.
Very true, CADCAM. What I want to find out is if this classified info that Ms. Broadwell had was on a personal computer (implying not externally marked) or on a computer issued by the Army. In either case I hope she did not take either computer "off base" or take it home. That in itself is a "loss of clearance" offense.
And as for Mr. Petraeus, those of you who are coming to his defense are forgetting the fact that HE LET THIS HAPPEN! He's a GENERAL for God's sake! And a high ranking one at that! He could have put a stop to all this but chose not to. If he knew what Ms. Broadwell had or even allowed her to have access to material she didn't have "need to know" he is also complicit.
The armed forces are supposed to be an honorable group of men and women who work together for the defense of our nation. And we have rules (i.e. the UCMJ) that apply to everyone....and I mean EVERYONE!.....who violates those rules. No exceptions, no favorites. It's just a shame that Mr. Petraeus made the choices he did.
Secret material?The enemy knows more about us than we do.
Would seem the new TV Show: The
Completely
Useless
Nothing
Twin
Sisters
of Benghazi is a hit.
I never noticed the part about her commission until this article. I need to read more closely.
"Clearly when she was embedded with Petraeus...."
probably a poor choice of words.
I think he was embedded in her.
I think this whole thing is nothing but a "girl fight" gone horribly wrong... imagine what General P, General A, and the two husbands must be thinking...
Loose lips sink ships! This woman probably never should have had a clearance in the first place. And if she is married she should be prosecuted under article 134. I had a TS clearance while in the Air Force. Don't they do mental evaluations anymore?
Three can keep a secret if two are dead.
Well, I do not think those guys should allow those women to pull them in then kill or have them killed to keep them quiet if this is what you are implying. The "DC Madam threaten to expose her johns and came up dead, allledgedly by committing suicide. Lets face it, these guys know what these women are after and know they will rat on them if the relationship is ended. If they are not willing to take the fall, dont play the game...
This should not have been a public scandal. Petraeus is not the first general or CIA director to have an affair. It's only a big deal because we make it one. Does anyone really believe that Petraeus would betray the U.S. ? Do you honestly believe that Generals, and other top officials in Washington are chaste and Petraeus is an exception? Can you really be that naive?
I agree this had been over played in the media and the cast of characters given their 15 mins they don't deserve. To say they should be forgiven I don't agree with. Any manipulation involving these relationships should be punished.
It takes two to tango. If she loses her clearance over this, then it seems so should Petraeus. Otherwise the old double standard is still alive and well in 2012…
At this point he has lost much more than his clearance. If he was not retired he would be dishonorably discharged – as she should be.
Its funny to watch individuals spout off about the military when it is quite clear they know nothing about what they speak and the their only contact is "A few good men". She is targeted because she cam be targeted, Gen P would retire as a General had he already not retired and if this was not a political witch hunt deflecting the media it would not even be an issue. Start looking for why now, it does not add up, this is a matter where if it were consiidered a significant matter it wouold have been addressed at the time it came up the first time. And no, this information would not have been set upon by anyone it would have gone straight to the top at first indications.
Petraeus doesn’t have the clearance anymore (his would be inactive and also certain clearances come with the position you are in, the second you leave that position you loss the clearance) because he resigned from his job. In the other hand she is still in a position that requires a TS/SCI clearance. If she broke rules and her clearance is revoked, she will loss her position and has to be moved to a position that requires a secret or no clearance at all (For a LTC such a position is hard to come by or doesn't even exist).
She loses clearance not because of the affair but because of mishandling of classified information. There are clearly written rules as to where classified information can and cannot be placed. I am sure her home is not certified to store classified materials. Gen. Petraeus was not accused of mishandling of classified information.
Will she cry rape ?
Rape in reverse - The General was controlled by Paula.
How about letting poor abused Bradley Manning have his life back?
How about letting those who were killed b/c Manning released classified information have thier life back??
"Poor, abused Bradley Manning" willfully chose to participate in espionage.
As an LTC in the Army Reserve, she is subject to the UCMJ and in my opinion has violated: Article 92 Failure to obey order or regulation, Article 108 Military property of the United States–sale, loss, damage, destruction, or wrongful disposition, Article 107 False official statements, Article 133 Conduct unbecoming an officer and gentleman, and Article 134-2 Adultery. All of these are courts marshal offences and she should be prosecuted.
Agreed. She's luck she's not in jail.
Similar to the Julian Assange ladies of Easy CIA Virtue,
Tasked to report, control and take-down,
Paula Bradwell, a reserve Army officer, is likely a CIA operative.
Encouraging the General to Fall on his sword,
Cover Story – Honey Pot to distract.
(The General, by denying Benghazi stand-down responsibility, exposed Hilary)
Do you have a tin foil hat on and see black helicopters following your every move?
interesting theory to early to tell at this time to see if it holds water If this [garden tool] Broadwell come out of this unscathed then their was something else going between her and the state department, but I think she will come out of this untouched and be fast tracked to head West point thus putting a white house lackey in charge of all future army leaders
Spot on, Army CSM
This is what happens when you let Heteros into the US Military. Their morality pollutes everything. Next they'll want to get married!
Hahaha! Okay, that one gets a thumbs-up.
Clash of Cultures - CIA civilian prudes, hate Military Freedoms
"Senate Approves Bill that Legalizes Sodomy and Bestiality in U.S. Military"
Military needs to let these people take their partners with them to their zones so they can be near them. People talk about "Oh, they need to do their jobs".....but we see, even in their tough assignments, they still find a way to get laid. Call a Spade a Spade.
Ya think! She should have lost her clearance the minute they initiated an investigation.....which should have been told to the military as soon as the FBI found out she had one. A nutcase stalker.
take off the stars, get rid of the clearances, and all you have is two people physically engaged with heart, soul, and mind as one. in short, two adulterers engaging each other secretly until their secret was revealed. EXPOSED.
Is it possible that Broadwell or Kelley could be a foreign agent working for Russia, Israel, China or some other country? Russia and Israel are particularly adept in using those types of women.
Is it possible you've been reading too much John LeCarre?
Ms. Broadwell should have had her clearance suspended the minute the FBI stepped in. Period. As a woman and a veteran who served NATO, I am disgusted by her choices.
I totally agree with you Roz Folk. As a military reservist, I am baffled that Broadwell reached the rank of Lieutenant Colonel after 15 years of service, age 39, with no command experience. Really? Not to mention she has been a "P.h.D. candidate" for the past four years. It doesn't add up. A Lieutenant Colonel is two ranks below a one star general. Broadwell performed her duty as a Reservist in IMA status. West Point is located in New York. She resides in North Carolina. The only explanation that makes sense is that she was allowed to have classified information at her residence? Or she was suppose to keep it secure somewhere in Washington and removed it from a government building or military installation.
Sounds like a twofer .... it is who you know and who you blow.
Well, it's actually two ranks very far below Brigadier General. An officer serving a typical 20 year career (the minimum military retirement) will leave as a Lieutenant Colonel, having been promoted to that rank a few years before. Making Colonel is a big step, usually indicating an intent to serve at least a few years beyond 20. Making Brigadier General indicates a significant, ongoing career beyond the retirement age.
As a reservist, Broadwell may have been promoted a bit earlier than her active duty peers, but not by much. Her timeline sounds pretty typical to me.
It gets so complicated just like a Brazilian soap opera. Now there are so many people involved.
really! just like one of the Brazilian soap opera. I am so entertaining by the entire store, I try not tomiss a single chapter.
To me CNN and FOX news really sucks! they have no news to talk about. so! they just make stories about anything. In the end here is nothing there. They are just like PAPARASIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm glad she didn't fake harassment or rape charges against the man. I know some friendly types who would raise that red flag in a heartbeat.
I take issue with your comment, Cindy. If Broadwell has to be released from the military for adultery, shouldn't Petraeus have his commission reactivated so that he is made to face identical punishment? He is equally guilty of adultery and may have been the one to initiate the affair.
No, he shouldn't be reinstated. The affair started AFTER he retired from the military. So, no, he's not in violation of the Adultery code. Petraeus messed up, but did the honorable thing by coming forward and stepping down, even after the affair was over for FOUR MONTHS. But she's still in violation, and should be booted out of the Army.
She leaked existence of CIA Benghazi torture prison to U$.
(Hilary supported el-CIA-duh knew all along)
Off to Guantanamo for Paula !
Solitary confinement, or sharing a cell with Bradley Manning ?
She should be a cell mate with Afia Sidiqui
Didn't the republicans wanted Patreus to run for the prez office?? LoL.
Presidential Truth telling is an Über Sin - Reason why Petraeus could not be elected.
(He told the truth that - he did not order the Benghazi Stand Down
Should have omitted insubordination and allowed Benghazi U$ victims to be rescued)
Certainly this latest episode qualifies Petraeus for pubic orafice.
OK here is the deal- was broadwell on active duty when she received classified info? if so then she's ok. since petraeus is what is known as a classifying authority, he routinely brought news media reps, congressman, any one he wanted and gave access regardless of their clearances- done all over DOD and NSA and NRO, not sure about CIA.
now if ms broadwell was simply writing a book on her own time, she would be in jeopardy if she had classified material especially on her pc. remember john deutch cia dir had classified on his home comoputer but was pardoned by the prez.
low level milutary /civilains caught with classified docs at home, in their briefcases on their pc's will get burned. generals must have secure /safes at home if they work there.
broadwell will play the archivist card saying she recieved or got approval from P4 to archive his stuff and sort out the classified-of course petraeus cant give her permission- only the office holding the docs can give her need to know acess.
bottom line i believe petreaus routinely had aides carry the most sensitive stuff you can thk of into hotel rooms, to conferences and most staff just do the best the can and hope they dont get caught. broadwell has been given such access because of P4 almost blanket "let her doe/see/go/ read whatever' that she will plead she did nothing wrong.
now i hope she did not have sci stuff -hard or electronic copy – only the prez can bail her or P4 out of that jam.
btw gov handling of classified is atrocious even though the regs are there and they hold contractors feet to the fire.
sorta reminds me of fawn hall of ollie north fame- paula probably has stuffed classifed down her pants and walked out of cia or centcom hqs- and i will bet she carried it unauthorized on civ aircraft.
i saw a dep sec of defense reading classified on a united airlines about 10 years ago and stuffed it in his briefcase when he deplaned.
just sayin
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Petreus may and may not have been the "classifying authority," but that does not give him authority to grant access to the material by someone who (1) does not have the need to know and/or (2) the appropriate clearance. Furthermore, only the President has authority to de-classify material.
@redhat 37
you know too much i guess that why your a blogger here. shut up
The undeniable truth is no one is indispensable in this world, not even Jesus.
you mean even that famous mexican guy Jesus is indispensible? whats this world coming to...
excuse me for butting in, in the USN, even Chaplains can't use the "word" JESUS any longer, thanx to the ACLU ...
nothing but the finest out of west point I guess she missed the the class in properly handling of classified material or she blatantly disregarded her sworn duties as an officer
Sorry. The story doesn't say she mishandled secure information. It's a possibility but that is not what the article says. Please reread.
listen to henry winkler here, Lawrence,what more do you want dude, you obviously missed the story,and the boat here bro...
Ok I did classified material was removed from her home ( not a very safe place to store it) and if she was authorized to take the material home she would have a Material handling form signed by security officer allowing her to take Classified material out the normal handling procedures and I bet she doesn't have that form because she would have produced it by now
Not only should Ms BROADWELL be busted from the Intelligence Corp she should LOSE her recent advancement in rank from MAJOR TO LTC.. perhaps she should be busted down to a LT and change here MOS to culinary duty for the rest of her career.
trust me they don't want her best thing for her to dry up and disappear from history
Ultimate Humiliation - Punish Paula - Make an example
Sentence, demote her to the rank of Housewife.
No way. Being a housewife is one of the most honorable careers there is. She is not qualified!
Yep. It is time for her to fornicate her way up the civilian ladder if success. New day ... different woman ... typical behavior
2 previous posters R idiots... It takes two to tango
When you have a clearance you cannot automatically have access to classified material. The person giving access has to ascertain that your clearance is active, the correct level, and most importantly that you have a "need to know".
true but I'm guessing she used the Generals name in order to get all the proper credentials
I doubt very much that it is that easy to get classified information. She might have hacked in. I think they need to investigate how she got hold of classified information.
Generals and their toys, I would hope all national news networks would just move on this really is seedy and ready for Jerry Springer, upper class trash.
The FBI agent who began the Jill Kelley investigation has been identified as Frederick W. Humphries II.
Broadwell has taken a good man to his grave....Damn !
1) I hadn't heard that the "good man" is dead. 2) General Petraeus' misdirected libido is the principal cause of whatever damage has been done.
It takes two to make babies.
There's a reason that succubi are always hot. If broadwell were from Mississippi and was even 20 lbs heavier, this wouldn't even have happened.
Ms. Broadwell should be busted from the military for adulterous behavior. She should not be let off the hook. This rule applies to all military personel.
Completely agree. Dis-honorable discharge. Takes two to do the horizontal mambo, unless it's rape, and this sure wasn't that... She jumped the old general, gleefully... Most likely to advance her own career.
Except the officers do not get dishonorably discharged. That's reserved for enlisted.
That's a shame. Cause she deserves what the general took on his own. Although I doubt he really had much choice...
I agree but not dishonorable discharge thought her actions were least bot honorable.
does not apply to officers !!!!! For this [garden tool] this mess will be swept under the table either thou a deal with investigating team or by a Congresswoman who will claim that she is being picked on by the mean ol military