November 9th, 2012
04:24 PM ET

Drone incident over the Gulf: A sign of the times

By Tim Lister, CNN

It seems they are everywhere, from the foothills of the Himalayas to the vast tracts of the Sahara, searching the terrain and seas below like glinting birds of prey. Drones have become the emblem of war and intelligence-gathering in the 21st century.

And for the first time, Iran has tried to bring down a U.S. drone as it flew off the Iranian coastline in the northern Persian Gulf.

The United States says Iranian jets fired on an unarmed MQ-1 Predator on November 1 while it was on a routine surveillance mission above international waters. The Defense Department said the drone was 16 miles from the Iranian coast.

"The internationally recognized territorial limit is 12 nautical miles off the coast, and we never entered the 12 nautical-mile limit," said George Little, Pentagon spokesman, on Thursday.

Given the tensions between the two governments, the Predator’s exact position will not have deterred the Iranians. Maj. Gen. Seyed Masoud Jazaeri told the semi-official Fars news agency Friday that "The Iranian armed forces will respond decisively to any act of transgression. ... If any foreign planes try to enter our country's [air]space, our armed forces will confront it."

Despite two passes, the pair of Iranian Sukhoi-25 jets were unable to hit the Predator, which safely returned to base - possibly in Qatar or Kuwait (but U.S. officials remain tight-lipped about its home base). Freedom of navigation in the Gulf - through which one-fifth of the world’s crude output travels - is a vital interest to the U.S. and its regional allies.

So why did Iranian jets try to bring the drone down?

“First, and most probable, senior Iranian leadership intended to fire a shot across the bow of the next U.S. administration and gain political momentum in the run-up to talks” on Iran’s nuclear program, says Cliff Kupchan of the Eurasia Group.

“This drone affair confirms Iran's risk-acceptant posture,” Kupchan adds.

He also notes that the planes involved were not those of the Iranian air force but belonged to the Revolutionary Guard (IRGC), which is very often more aggressive toward the U.S. presence in the Gulf. Its small patrol boats have been known to harass U.S. naval vessels in the region. It may be that the IRGC was acting unilaterally, but Kupchan believes that unlikely because of the risk of escalation.

Tensions in the Gulf are never far away. This week the Saudi ambassador to the United Nations wrote to the U.N. secretary general to complain about Iranian harassment against Saudi oil facilities, alleging that an Iranian helicopter had approached rigs in the offshore Hasba oilfield several times.

At sea, U.S. military commanders worry about a mistake, when harassment leads to something more and a quick escalation.

Cost and benefit

U.S. drones operate over Yemen and Afghanistan with the host government’s agreement. They operate over Pakistan unimpeded but against the wishes of the Pakistani authorities. They fly above Somalia in the absence of any effective authority there.

But Iran sees them as an affront to its sovereignty. And if captured or shot down they can be a trove of valuable technology (though some of the crown jewels can be destroyed remotely) as well as a propaganda trophy.

Iran has already garnered one propaganda victory in the last year. In December 2011 a high-altitude RQ-170 Sentinel crashed in the Iranian desert after leaving an airbase in Afghanistan. The unarmed UAV was on a mission to monitor Iranian nuclear facilities, according to U.S. officials who would not speak on the record.

The Iranians recovered the Sentinel in good shape (judging from video of its exterior appearance) and paraded it to the media. Tehran subsequently boasted that technicians had been able to reverse-engineer its capabilities, though experts doubt that. There was even a market in toy drones, complete with slogans such as “We will crush Amrican hegemony” [sic] and “Captured by the IRanian Muslim Youth” (the IR is capitalized on the box.) The Farsi text on the box describes it as “the most advanced American spy unmanned aircraft.” Move over, Lego.

There is another risk in the widespread use of drones. Sometimes the victims are not those targeted, but civilians. This has happened in Pakistan and Yemen and helped fuel an anti-American backlash. This week, Yemen’s Nobel Peace Prize winner, Tawakul Karman, told the Financial Times that the Yemeni people rejected drones, whether they were American or Yemeni, and argued they helped terrorist groups to recruit. That is a view shared by Gregory Johnsen, an expert on Yemen and author of "The Last Refuge: Yemen, al Qaeda and America’s War in Arabia.”

Unmanned aerial vehicles, to give drones their formal description, are vulnerable in some environments. They are slow: the Predator has a maximum speed of 135 mph. Flown remotely, often from thousands of miles away, and relying on satellite links for instructions, there are more things that can go wrong than if a pilot had control.

Weapon of choice

Even so, drones have become so effective as part of the modern military arsenal that everyone wants them. Besides the United States, China is developing its own line, Israel manufactures and exports them. The New America Foundation estimates that more than 70 countries have drones of some sort (though the vast majority are for surveillance.)

Iran has developed a series of drones -– the Ababil (Swallow) family - and in September unveiled what it claimed was a long-range drone capable of carrying missiles to a distance of more than 1,200 miles (2,000 kms.)

Rebels in Syria claim that Tehran has also supplied the al-Assad regime with surveillance drones and believe they are being used to guide air strikes against rebel units. They have even posted video of captured drones (though they look far from sophisticated) on YouTube.

Iran also appears to have supplied at least drone components to the Lebanese militia Hezbollah. Last month, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said the group had assembled an Iranian-designed drone and flown it 35 miles (50 kms) inside Israel before it was shot down by Israeli jets. It was not the first  Hezbollah had launched into Israeli airspace, but none has been very advanced – and their drones lack the control afforded by satellite precision.

Iran is not the first U.S. adversary to try to bring down one of its drones. "Non-state" actors such as terror groups in the Afghan-Pakistan border region, Yemen and Somalia, do not have planes nor the surface-to-air missiles capable of bringing down a drone. But in December 2002, when Saddam Hussein was still in power, an Iraqi fighter (another Sukhoi-25 to be precise) shot down a Predator with an air-to-air missile.

In those days, the U.S. had less than 100 Predators. By 2011, Predators had clocked up more than a million hours in flying time for the U.S. Air Force, according to the USAF website. And that's aside from the CIA's fleet.

It is almost exactly 10 years (November 3 to be exact) since the Predator made its first kill. The victim was Ali al-Harithi, a Yemeni allegedly involved in planning the bombing of the USS Cole. One Hellfire missile took out al-Harithi and several others as they traveled in a 4×4 close to Yemen’s border with Saudi Arabia. Since then, according to data compiled by the New America Foundation, somewhere between 1,600 and 2,800 militants have been killed by drone strikes in Pakistan alone.

The use of armed drones against al Qaeda and associated groups in the Afghan-Pakistan border region has increased exponentially during President Barack Obama’s tenure – and has also expanded in other theaters such as the Horn of Africa and Yemen. As al Qaeda and associated jihadist groups gravitate toward North Africa – especially Mali and Libya – French officials have said that it’s possible drones will be sent to the region. Their role would be to assist a yet-to-be-deployed African force tasked with freeing northern Mali from the control of Islamist groups.

As drones have become indispensable to both the military and intelligence agencies (not to mention many other civilian applications), defense contractors have plowed money into research and development.

In the United States, San Diego is the hub of the industry. According to a study by the Institute for Policy Research in the National University System, drone production was worth $1.3 billion to the local economy last year, based on an analysis of Defense Department contracts. Production is forecast to double by the end of the decade – so the prospect of another brief encounter between a UAV and someone who doesn’t want it around becomes ever more likely.

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  1. Raven

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    November 27, 2012 at 1:11 am | Reply
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  3. lulz

    sure america. a stealth drone doing *recon* in international waters/right off the iranian coast.

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    November 12, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Reply
  4. DL

    We can fly our drones anywhere, anytime... no one else can, tho

    November 12, 2012 at 7:50 am | Reply
  5. tRUEaMERICAN77

    I began to question just what I was doing over there in the middle east the more I saw and learned first hand. My fear is what John McCain said; when does America stop being a force for good in the world , and cross over to just imperialism?

    I think we all need to really have this conversation, as we preemptevely begin to look more and more towards a conflict with Iran that is looming over the horizion. Are we going to fullfill George W. Bush's prophetic line of those we consider to be the Axis of Evil ? Finish the trifecta factor .... George W did throw Iran in that mix.....Here's a fact little known here in the United States of Amnesia on the day of 9/11 and after there were a million mourners in the streets of Tehran and Baghdad mourning with us and sincelry sad for our great loss.I wonder what they thought after the bombs began to drop on their homes and their innocent children began to die so horribly?

    The CIA has a term called blow back ...it means the repercussions of foreign policy and how it comes back to haunt us. In our rush for patriotic fervor , perhaps we should just pause ..and ask just how much will the world take of our wars and deliberate policy of direct interference of other nations...How much blow back can any of us really stomach? This blind patriotism has a very costly price to pay in the future ...do any of us really want to pay it?

    November 12, 2012 at 1:53 am | Reply
    • Chris

      Well put

      November 12, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Reply
  6. lynchem

    Jo ...........who is the IDIOT?

    November 11, 2012 at 7:01 pm | Reply
  7. lynchem

    Widow....you are so passionate. OMG christian propoganda.

    November 11, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Reply
  8. Person55

    Well said, Shane. And they sure aren't anything new that haven't happened in history before.

    November 11, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Reply
  9. Shane smith

    War come's naturally to us its like rideing a bicycle

    November 11, 2012 at 3:52 pm | Reply
    • tonyh110

      we make serious technological advancements and pull together as a country (no room for petty idelogy and politics) when we're at war – so about time we had a major one to get us out of this pathetic stalemate we seem to be in

      November 11, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Reply
    • SentTheWave

      Apparently more naturally than spelling, at the very least.

      November 12, 2012 at 7:58 am | Reply
  10. Person55

    A couple of people here are apparently concerned about the "coming end times". As if wars are something new to our planet. Please....

    November 11, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Reply
  11. Human

    I love united stated... And by the way we all r immigrants...so be nice

    November 11, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Reply
    • sir

      illegal i bet.

      November 12, 2012 at 7:49 am | Reply
  12. sawolf

    Quoting one nut job makes for judging an entire People? We can quote barry's rev, jerry wright, ,"God Dam n America", so all blacks are traitors?????

    November 11, 2012 at 12:51 pm | Reply
    • larry5

      Or you could say just the ones that sat in a pew for 20 years being indoctrinated by the Reverend of Rage against America.

      November 11, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Reply
    • amn

      i don't think the Iranians really wanted to hit the drone...it's just the classical way to say hey we're here don't come closer...
      it used to happen during the cold war between the americans and russians...

      November 11, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Reply
      • Dan

        No these things just don`t happen it was a test and Obama failed and lied. The responce was weak and now the USA has to worry what the next test might be. One thing is for sure, if this govenment can keep it from the public they will. America start being afraid and please start asking queastions before it is to late.

        November 11, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
  13. 1234

    All fine and good, but, has anybody been following the stuff going on along Euphrates River and the book of revelations in Bible. People get ready!

    November 11, 2012 at 10:31 am | Reply
    • Yoshi Togukawa

      We are the Metrons. We wrote Revelations. It was an attempt at humor. You Humans take everything literally. Nothing is coming that you don`t deserve. Stop worrying. You are not capable of reading the true meaning of most anything.

      November 11, 2012 at 11:09 am | Reply
  14. Sam Lord

    The USA never supplied weapons to Saddam's regime *or* to the government of postrevolutionary Iran. Unlikr the USSR, Chine, France, and other states, we refused to profit from the Iran-Iraq war. Source: S.I.P.R.I.

    November 11, 2012 at 9:27 am | Reply
    • metron

      good government shill

      November 11, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Reply
    • lulz

      yeah sam im sure those advanced battle designs just washed up on shore.

      November 12, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Reply
  15. Nobama

    Iranians walk all over Nobama. I'd treat this not different than a manned aircraft, and firing a US aircraft demands a response. I would have shot down the two planes.

    Now we look weak, and they have absolutely a nod from Nobama to do it again. Pathetic

    November 11, 2012 at 8:44 am | Reply
    • Redneck

      Buddy: u are a real redneck. I'll like to see you at the front when the shooting starts. I bet you'll be hiding behind your mama .

      November 11, 2012 at 8:51 am | Reply
      • Ralph Dahm

        Of course since you cannot defend the inaction of Obama you resort to name-calling. Typical liberal, weak on defense, brave when safe.

        November 11, 2012 at 11:17 am |
      • teter

        You know you have no point when results to name calling on the Interwebz. Sure kill our diplomats and attack our military aircraft in international airspace.

        The least a president can do is condemn the actions admit if it quacks and kills like a terrorist, it's probably a terror attack.

        November 11, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
    • TinMT

      Name calling doesn't help anything, but I find it interesting Mr. Dahm that while you berate Redneck for doing so, you have no problem doing it yourself or with Nobama's disrespect of our President.

      November 11, 2012 at 11:40 am | Reply
      • Redneck

        Since when did Redneck become "name calling" . These neo-cons will use anything to change the discussion. Ralph, my buddy, I am a decorated gulf war vet. So, don't tell me what war is about- you ask others to lay their life on the line – tell me how many times have you put your life in risk for the sake of your country. I am an American and fought for my country.

        November 11, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • lynchem

      Hence the reason you'e NOT the President.

      November 11, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Reply
    • Nogimus Prime

      You seriously want us to attack a country for shooting at an unarmed aircraft (which likely has been used to spy on them anyhow)? If we shot the 2 aircraft down, we would be killing 2 human beings, whereas had they been successful in shooting down this drone they would have only destroyed a machine. It's no wonder Republicans lost this election. Stupid war mongers. I can't stand Obama, but at least his international policies are more stable than a red faced war flag waving Republican.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Reply
      • Nogimus Prime

        meant to say unmanned in the first sentence

        November 11, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • Southerner01

      I'm more concerned with the fact that a US consulate was militarily overrun, and an al qaeda flag run up. Consulates and embassies are considered the territory of the country that owns them. So that attack was an attack on sovereign US soil. We have done nothing in response. We know exactly who did it, and it had nothing to do with youtube videos.

      November 12, 2012 at 6:17 am | Reply
    • lulz

      *now we look weak*

      your not weak your just currupt greedy and crazy.

      November 12, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Reply
  16. Ino

    "The Sovereign of the Universe is telling Jews in the Land of Israel and the entire world: 'Do you think I am joking with you? Fooling with you? Don't you understand that I am serious? Every day I raise the judgment to a higher level than the previous day! No place in the world is safe and no place will be safe except the holy Land of Israel!'" 
    Rabbi Ben-Artzi

    November 11, 2012 at 8:06 am | Reply
    • Yoshi Togukawa

      You`ve got to be a self hating Jew!

      November 11, 2012 at 11:17 am | Reply
      • Ino

        At least I am a Jew; what are you?

        November 11, 2012 at 11:41 am |
      • metron

        I want a steamy little jewish princess, falahlah
        with warm foaming nails and a hair-due that rinses
        she can even be poor, so as long she does it
        with four on the floor, vapor-lock.

        November 11, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
  17. Ino

    US exists to serve the great nation of Israel.
     "If the United States wants to succeed, it must openly help and support the nation of Israel." 
    Rabbi Ben-Artzi .

    November 11, 2012 at 7:59 am | Reply
    • King

      Assertions like these are what lead to the negative view that quite a few people hold of Jews—that the Jews hold powerful positions in every field and that their primary purpose is to advance only Israel. Your views come off as very arrogant, selfish, and close-minded. I really hope that Israelis, particularly the leaders in Israel, do not share your views because the concept that America should exist to protect another state is simply disturbing. America has an obligation to its own people first and foremost. Whatever obligation it has to help Israel must be strictly out of friendship and regional interests and we should not meddle if help interferes with America's best interests or harms America in any way.

      November 12, 2012 at 2:46 am | Reply
  18. Filthy Hippie

    Let them shoot at our drones all they want. Isn't that why we've got them? So we don't risk American lives and we don't have to start a war because they killed one of our pilots?

    Better yet, let them "capture" a drone and plug it into their Microsoft Windows operating systems - with a special delivery package installed.

    Thanks, Mr. Gates!

    November 11, 2012 at 7:54 am | Reply
    • landon

      yeah, because the US can really afford 2.38 billion a pop for every predator drone that goes down

      November 11, 2012 at 9:48 am | Reply
      • Widow

        Are you retarded? 2 billion got one? That is the operational cost of the entire fleet per year.. One drone costs between 25-35 million in total cost for one year of use.. Why don't you read the article instead of seeing a number and applying it as your mind would like to think it is. Why don't you go look up facts about how the company that makes the voting machines has a direct link to the presidents administration.. There have even been YouTube video's showing the preceding a in court.. Why hasn't the national media been involved? We are so worried about online voter fraud to distract us and make us feel safe about the current system when a programmer for NASA and Exxon Mobil and others has confirmed he was hired by a Florida speaker of the house to hide votes.. Work with the same company Obama has ties to to commit voter fraud. How is this not even covered by the national media?

        November 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
  19. Bill

    We should never have shut down the SR-71 program! We would be able to gather intel on any place in the world, in any weather, at will, and with very minimal risk. Satellites are predictable, and can be avoided, and if necessary, taken out. UAV's can be acquired visually and taken out by an IR missle or a marginally competent pilot with a gun-equipped aircraft. The SR-71, on the other hand, was fired at thousands of times, and proved to be literally untouchable. Those in USAF, DOD, and government service who are responsible for the SR-71's grounding should hang their heads in shame. The Iranians would be terrified of Habu!

    November 11, 2012 at 5:24 am | Reply
    • Oscar

      Who would really believe the SR71 was decommissioned while no (secret) replacement was available? The official argument (cost) is ridiculous if compared to CIA and NSA total budgets. Drones and satellites are great assets but the value of having something with capabilities like the SR71 provided can not be underestimated. Whether is is the rumored Aurora or something else, who knows, but something is out there for sure.

      November 11, 2012 at 6:20 am | Reply
      • Bill

        That was the rumor started by the pro-satellite people when they were lobbying congress. The USAF people who fought hard to keep the SR-71 program alive know better than anyone. There isn't anything better. Aurora is a myth.

        November 11, 2012 at 6:54 am |
    • Ryanq

      the SR-71 was a BADASS!!! NOBODY could touch that thing

      November 12, 2012 at 9:27 am | Reply
  20. lindagainers

    Prophet Dr Owuor prophesied about this, a month is not yet over since his prophesy. To God be the Glory

    November 11, 2012 at 5:09 am | Reply
  21. lindagainers

    Prophet Dr Owuor prophesied about this, a month is not even over since he prophesied about this incident. To God be the Glory.

    November 11, 2012 at 5:08 am | Reply
    • Nogimus Prime

      Ha ha. He prophesied about the Iranians shooting at a drone and MISSING it? How unpredictable and prophetic indeed! :O

      November 11, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Reply
  22. Steve

    It's hard to see a good ending to this drone build-up. At some point anyone will be able to buy or make a drone.

    November 10, 2012 at 11:19 pm | Reply
    • cykill

      i wish Iran would shot them all down. anyone who thinks they wont(aren't)be used to spy on US citizens is an idiot.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:39 am | Reply
  23. Ralph M

    Iran shouldn't act like they scored or anything. Two jet fighters couldn't even take out one slow flying drone? Epic Fail.

    November 10, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Reply
    • Jack O'Brien

      That's because they fired warning shots at it. You're not too smart are you, nincompoop. Buying all of CNN warmongering spin. CNN THIS IS OLD NEWS ALREADY! YOU SPINSTER WARMONGERS!

      November 11, 2012 at 8:10 am | Reply
  24. Navy1

    Reverse question. If a foreign country drone were 16 nm from our shores, but still had the ability to spy on us, would we have the right to down it? What about satellites?

    November 10, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Reply
    • TGK

      No and no.

      November 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Reply
  25. Portland tony

    No one doubts our ability to strike a death blow to the Iranian military assets and severely damage its infrastructure. But the cost of human life, in Iran and in retribution the missile strikes on Israel would be catastrophic. And to secure a "victory" in a country the size of Iran would take an army exceeding a million personnel. Sure we could use nuclear weapons and increase the carnage. But do we have the will to act out
    another Iraq scenario for 10 or 20 years? Don"t think so!

    November 10, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Reply
    • TGK

      So tell us why exactly it would take 1M+ boots on the ground to take out Iran's nuclear weapons capability? Not talking "regime change" here like in Iraq...

      November 10, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Reply
      • Navy1

        Huge country ( 4 – 5 x Iraq) complex chain of mountains, bigger army, more advanced military resources, chemical weapons, large population with ability to form complex guerrilla troops, mountain warfare, complex geography, Russia's support, alliances with "stan" republics from former USSR. Are these good enough?

        November 10, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
      • TGK

        Navy1- Not when the objective is to eliminate their nuclear weapons facilities... Mountains, troops, chemical weapons, large population, mountain warfare, complex geography, alliances with the "Stans"? Tell me exactly how what you just rattled off is going to do to prevent precision airstrikes on the targets that the U.S. would hit?

        Navy1? In the military? 15+ years active duty USAF major and just back from a 6 month deployment to the CAOC in the Arabian Gulf working on the Combat Ops floor. If you want to get into an "exchange" (to a point) on TTPs and capes we can certainly go down that road...

        November 10, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
      • Portland tony

        A "defiled" Iran would be in essence a legendary greek mythological Hydra striking out at all perceived enemies in unconventional warfare as they rebuilt their nuclear capabilities. Best estimates have a conventional attack setting their nuclear program back 2-5 years!

        November 10, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
      • TGK

        Tony- You think the U.S. has any problem coming back in 5 years to set them back? The U.S. military has "lots" of munitions to get the job done and won't run out. Unconventional warfare? You're talking about Iranian spec ops being able to penetrate U.S. bases in the Arabian Gulf and kill American servicemen and women? Not going to happen. TBMs come raining down with chems and Iran's entire military is a smoking hole...

        November 10, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
      • Portland tony

        My point is the danger of a continuoushot war with Iran with the Israelis right in the middle. There is some doubt that even the BLU-113 and similar MOPs could effectively damage Iran 's underground facilities. That's the conundrum!

        November 10, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • Navy1

      Nukes are never an option when Russia is their ally.

      November 10, 2012 at 9:26 pm | Reply
  26. Concerned Citizen

    Its time for action- swift action. This is a complex issue that is just snow-balling out of control faster than the speed of light

    November 10, 2012 at 8:03 pm | Reply
    • Navy1

      Go to war over a drone? Are you kidding? Unless you are ready to deploy on land over there, stop the bravado.

      November 10, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Reply
    • just_a_moderate

      They shot at, and missed, the drone.

      And how is this a crisis?

      November 10, 2012 at 10:07 pm | Reply
    • Jack O'Brien

      Concerned citizen go back to Tell Aviv, and crawl back under the rock you slithered from. We the American people ARE TIRED OF ISRAEL and their spoiled child antics. You chose to live among a billion Muslims, and took their land. YOU DEAL WITH IT! And leave USA out of it. We have ENOUGH problems at home trying to feed the UNEMPLOYED these wars have brought us.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:18 am | Reply
    • Filthy Hippie

      Why should we go to war because some Iranian suicide pilot fired on an unmanned drone and totally missed? Let's see, you're a fighter pilot chasing a slower, unmanned aircraft. You shoot and miss.

      How do you spell "suck"?

      November 11, 2012 at 7:57 am | Reply
  27. plonk

    It was in the last millenium, I mean the vast right-wing conspiracy. Now we have two amazing timelines. One from our govenment only-about Benghazi. The other one from two governments. Ours reported that the Iranians fired at our drone, it happenned Nov. the 1st, the report-on Nov. the 7th. OK. The Iranians reported on the 8th. So, are they left-wing, too? Just a reminder : we voted on the 6th.

    November 10, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Reply
  28. impoundguy

    Time for the Hiroshima theory and make Iran into a big glass table. No more hand slapping or negotiations that are full of lies and broken promises....time to slip Israel a plan brown envelope with some cash in it to take care of business since it pretty obvious we don't have the balls to do it...AND they certainly do and will.

    November 10, 2012 at 7:15 pm | Reply
    • Tyler

      Disgusting. I know several Iranians who are great people. You forget that you are talking about millions of people who are not necessarily aligned with their government.

      November 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Reply
    • illanboni94

      So you expect to use Israel as a proxy and endanger her citizens. That's very nazi-esque, when and not if Iran decides to initiate this war America will be there with Israel, England, France, Germany, Canada and many more fighting this regime. To those who think Russia would involve itself, I doubt it. They're focused on their own internal affairs

      November 11, 2012 at 2:32 am | Reply
      • Jack O'Brien

        Illanboli94 / aka NutAndYahu of Israel, why don't 'YOU and your beloved Israel fight the Iranians, and leave the rest of the world alone. Iranians are great people and their only crime is that they wont back your beloved Israel that choses to build homes on other people's land. Why don't you fight your own fights, and leave USA, England, France, Germany, Canada and out of it and fight your own fights. WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE VOTED FOR PEACE, NOT MITT ROMNEY AND WAR WITH IRAN. GO AWAY PLEASE!

        November 11, 2012 at 7:43 am |
  29. TYRANNASAUR

    Drone incident over the Gulf: A sign of the times???????????

    You got em...you use em.....nothing polite or proper about war....you make it too nice and everyone wants to do it.

    November 10, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Reply
    • Jack O'Brien

      What war???? You're watching too many movies and and TV.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:45 am | Reply
    • Jack O'Brien

      There is NO WAR with Iran. At least not one that has been declared. Much war drums have been heard, but war? Nah.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:46 am | Reply
  30. lance

    iran is an israili problem, america needs to fix its economy, national debt, crumbling infrastructure and flood of immigrants destroying the u.s.a.

    November 10, 2012 at 6:35 pm | Reply
    • 1234

      All fine and good, but, has anybody been following the stuff going on along Euphrates River and the book of revelations in Bible. People get ready!

      November 10, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Reply
      • rosethornne

        No, nobody cares about your moldy old fairy tales.

        November 10, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • jake

      so, you would be a native american? otherwise, you are part of some wave of the continious "flood of immigrants destroying the u.s.a." since this country began. so, stfu......

      November 10, 2012 at 7:04 pm | Reply
  31. USN RET (SS)

    Iran needs to remember cruise missiles are harder to hit.

    November 10, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Reply
  32. byrneo

    These stories always crack me up. Ooooooooh Iran shot down an "unarmed" drone 16 miles off it's border... As if this was some unwarranted act of aggression. Hey CNN what would the USA do if Iran was flying drones up and down your Eastern seaboard just 16 miles off your sovereign territory?

    November 10, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Reply
    • Cn

      They didn't shoot it down commie Chinaman. They tried and failed to. If Iran was at the US border they would die because they are IRan and we are the US. Double standards for good countries vs bad countries. Yes.

      November 10, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Reply
      • Emma

        Ever heard of cultural relativism? I'm guessing you have not. You can't judge another country/culture based on your life experience.
        There is no such thing as good countries or bad countries.
        Perspective varies according to your cultural background.
        Is Iran flying drones so close to the US? What would we do if they were? Just because we have the bigger guns it does not mean we are right and it's people like you with such a narrow minded way of looking at things that make this country look bad.

        November 10, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
      • Jack O'Brien

        You are deluding yourself if you think Iran couldn't shoot down a 75 mile per hour drone with fighter jets. They were making sure we got the message that they are ready for war. Here we are squeezing them in their own backyard and expect them to kowtow to us. With over 300,000 missiles, and an not too shabby of a military force I somehow think they will not back down. US needs to stop its warmongering and start its charm offensive with the Iranians. More than 30 years of sabre rattling has not softened them even a little bit. On the contrary they spun up a military industrial complex of their own and are shipping arms all over the ME and Africa. Warmongers need to go back in their holes and STAY there. That's what the American People voted for, not Mitt Romney and with with Iran. Get back in your cage!

        November 11, 2012 at 7:52 am |
    • TGK

      Nothing. Russia flies its Tu-95s up and down the AK coast and occassionally along the CONUS coast and NOTHING HAPPENS. If you you're not working in the EADS, WADS, CONR or ANR do yourself a favor and don't tell folks what we in the U.S. military would "do" in this situiation. 2nd clueless individual to think the U.S. would take such a provacative action...

      November 10, 2012 at 9:21 pm | Reply
  33. Me

    What was the "drone" doing there in the first place? How many Iranian drones have you seen in the USA?

    November 10, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Reply
    • dearconcernedcitizen

      It was monitoring their nuclear activity, which is shunned by the world for the true intentions we know they are after. If you don't like it, move there.

      November 10, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Reply
      • TGK

        1st question: Where EXACTLY are Iran's suspected nuclear weapons facilities? CNN and many other new organizations have reported where these facilites are.

        2nd question: What EXACTLY is an MQ-1 capable of "surveying" at 20-25k'?

        Answer these questions and then try again to make a creditable statement on what these drones are looking at...

        November 10, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
      • Jack O'Brien

        And the American people are NOT going to war wit the Iranians just to please you and your little Israel. You don't like it, EAT YOUR HEART OUT!

        November 11, 2012 at 7:56 am |
    • Jeff Farran

      Give me a break, are we threatening countries with nuclear war heads. Oh excuse me, they want to make nuclear power.......

      November 10, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Reply
      • Jack O'Brien

        Exactly. The uneducated sheeple here are hysterical. I bet you voted Republican and for MItt Romney too! Well, you lost, and being a loser is just being part of whom you and your warmongering kind are. I suggest you get a life! Start with READING. No I don't mean CNN spin.

        November 11, 2012 at 7:59 am |
  34. Total Non Sense

    Iran has declared war MULTIPLE on the USA (and the rest of the word). and yet the MUSLIM president of the USA has yet to react. Iran need to be totally destroyed it is the first step to world peace. peace on earth will only be possible when ALL ISLAMIC nation will have been completely destroyed. There is only one pure concentrate evil on this universe and it is ISLAM and ALL MUSLIMS. THEY MUST BE DESTROYED AT ALL COST.

    November 10, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Reply
    • aj

      Iran is not the one circling the US with Vessels and flying Drones over their heads and putting sanctions on the average people.Iran has never been aggressive towards it's neighbors. And lets not forget that the US supplied Saddam with weapons to attack Iran.
      And by the way Iran is not Stupid to nuke Israel cause Iran will get wiped off the map when Israel and the Us retaliate.

      November 10, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Reply
      • sfoch

        Absolutely true.

        November 10, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
      • dearconcernedcitizen

        You must be 12. Read up on how they hate israel.

        November 10, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
      • Sam

        dearconcerned ....that type of Zi0nist propaganda doesn't wash anymore .

        November 10, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
      • TGK

        You really think Iran's pursuit of a nuclear capability has anything to do with Israel? Try again...

        November 10, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
      • Jack O'Brien

        Exactly. Oh the hypocrites!

        November 11, 2012 at 8:00 am |
      • Jack O'Brien

        dearconcerenedcitizen, if you love Israel so much why aren't' you out there stealing land for them in Palestinian lands and are blogging war drums for US to go to war wit Iran for Israel. Because you puny, and will not fight your own battles. You want the American people to fight your battles for you. We're don with that. I love Iranians. They are nice people and very intelligent. Peace loving and fair. With I could say that about the Israelis. Go away please.

        November 11, 2012 at 8:03 am |
    • Hdb*

      The guy preaching about world peace wants to destroy a nation of humans. Interesting. Accusing the president of lying about his heritage because he looks different than his scared white self. The one "pure evil" are the close-minded, fearful cowards like yourself. Your as dangerous as a muslim extremist. There is no place for this type of intolerance. Certainly not in America.

      November 10, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Reply
      • Jack O'Brien

        Amen.

        November 11, 2012 at 8:05 am |
    • Jeff Farran

      You are a little over the top, please take your medication......

      November 10, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Reply
    • Jack O'Brien

      Total Non Sense, please take your meds!

      November 11, 2012 at 8:04 am | Reply
    • Masada

      Oh gentle peace...

      November 11, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Reply
  35. jamessavik

    Another more telling sign of the times: a news media so corrupt that its only purpose is to regurgitate the ruling parties propaganda and cover up their faux pas.

    November 10, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Reply
    • Emma

      Thank you! Why can't we have easy access to unbiased news reports?? Anyone else notice how this did not come out until after the election?

      November 10, 2012 at 11:51 pm | Reply
  36. rosethornne

    The military needs to change its recruitment policies, at least for drone operators.

    High-level gamers (who can do amazing things operating 'machines' remotely i.e. over the internet) tend NOT to be physically oriented, young, men.

    November 10, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Reply
    • Kevin

      Gamers tend to be lazy. If drone warfare happens people will just target the operators. I would not want gamers.

      November 10, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Reply
    • VFRonTOP

      "Video Gamers" don't contol UAVs. Those are actual Air Force pilots that control them.

      November 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Reply
      • rosethornne

        Uh huh.
        Why?

        November 10, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
  37. dahdit

    When someone pokes their finger in your face slapping at it is more a reflex action than an attack.

    November 10, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Reply
    • Kevin

      Finger in face sure is the same thing as a Unmanned drone flying in international airspace and not spying at the time...ugh people.

      November 10, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Reply
  38. mardjan

    They haven't threatened us or anybody. They just ran off a spy drone. If the drone was in international airspace, so were the jets.

    November 10, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Reply
    • tom

      and since both were in international air space, your conclusion is that they had a right to "run off" [fire at] the drone. You would also excuse the drone firing back at the jets I presume and killing the pilots even if the jets had not fired on the drones as they were both in international air space. We appear to agree on that point.

      November 10, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
    • VFRonTOP

      Everyone has the right to international airspace, period. Nobody has the right to carry out hostile acts towards other aircraft in international airspace. That is an act of war whether you want to believe that or not.

      November 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Reply
  39. Yoshi Togukawa

    Let`s see: two SU-25, capable of supersonic flight, armed with canons and rockets shoot at a drone traveling at about 150 MPH and cannot hit it. Poor Iran, old planes, bad pilots, bad bullets, poorly trained troops. I guess the Yanks don`t have to worry about the glorious Iranian Air Farce

    November 10, 2012 at 11:51 am | Reply
    • jdoe

      Maybe they didn't want to shoot it down, just send a message. Iraq and Afghanistan have nothing compared to Iran, and look how well it turned out for the U.S.

      November 10, 2012 at 11:56 am | Reply
      • Kevin

        You don't understand Warfare so you? Guerrilla warfare is nearly impossible to fight. However, military vs military is something the U.S has dominated easily. Iran would be no different. The U.S just needs to stop trying to rebuild these countries afterwards.

        November 10, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
      • mardjan

        So what is your experience with a combination of five guerrilla warfares, in Iran, Israel,saudi Arabia, Jordan and lebanon plus military action in the middle of a million burning oil platforms spewing heavy smoke into the air? Because that is what war with Iran is going to look like

        November 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
      • Emission

        "Iraq has nothing compared to Iran"...are you serious? Do you know anything about the last 30 yrs? Iraq invaded Iran and was defeating them time and again in numerous battles. Iraq's military (when it had one before we destroyed it within 2 weeks) was thought to be the strongest in the middle east besides Israel. Iran is a weak backwards country. We have private technology here in the US that far exceeds anything Iran could produce. Theres more technology in the state of California alone than Iran could ever dream of developing. Unfortunately you're too naive and uninformed to know.

        November 10, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
      • Jo

        RODGER THAT!Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's!

        November 10, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
      • tom

        keep your dreams intact Joe but don't stop looking for the missing half of your wit. Iraq and Afghanistan didn't challenge the US air force and i think the US defeated the Iraqi arm forces quickly and handily. that afghan and iraq muslims continue to kill each other is not an indictment of US might but reflects on the culture of you and yours, Joe. Why do you think they missed the drone, Joe? bad shooting or fear of the consequences if they hit it? Your delusions would be amusing if not so endemic with your cohorts.

        November 10, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
    • Jo

      Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! you said it!

      November 10, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Reply
    • drones are weak

      They rely on the military's GPS. If someone were to physically or electronically bring down said GPS those unmanned vehicles would be much use.

      November 10, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Reply
  40. jdoe

    Soon our drones will be battling other countries' drones, and the American public will be blissfully unaware, except for the military budget that keeps ballooning.

    November 10, 2012 at 11:44 am | Reply
    • Yoshi Togukawa

      It will be a droned out affair

      November 10, 2012 at 11:53 am | Reply
  41. Elena Shurmi

    what happens if drones bring fire on your homeland....next time...
    there is ls always a divine justice.............

    November 10, 2012 at 11:42 am | Reply
    • Yoshi Togukawa

      J.C. himself will operate the drones. Yes. Divine justice.

      November 10, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply
    • Kevin

      We are anything, but divine.

      November 10, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Reply
    • rosethornne

      In that case?

      Something very bad for the country that sent the drone. (This is in an alternate reality whete the drones actually manage to get past our surveillance, but I wouldn't expect you to have any knowledge of technoligy that cannot be seen, it's maaaagic).

      We are very very good at destroying things. The mess comes when an operation comes up for debate and the bleeding hearts argue with the warmongers. What you see in afghanistan is not our I ability to flayten the whole place and turn it into a smoking crater before lunchtime.

      November 10, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Reply
  42. Yoshi Togukawa

    Why hasn`t CNN reported the deployment of the carrier USS Stennis to the Arabian Gulf?

    November 10, 2012 at 11:37 am | Reply
    • Kevin9454

      You mean Persian Gulf...

      November 10, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Reply
      • TGK

        No, we that actually have been in this AOR refer to it as the Arabian Gulf...

        November 12, 2012 at 12:17 am |
    • Kevin

      Maybe because the USS Stennis is not committing an act of war?

      November 10, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Reply
  43. liberal disease

    we had a drone incident this past Tuesday< liberal welfare drones voted Obama back in, nothing new!

    November 10, 2012 at 11:05 am | Reply
    • Yoshi Togukawa

      I am not a Yank, but you sound like a sore loser

      November 10, 2012 at 11:38 am | Reply
    • jake

      you REALLY believe that 56% of america is on welfare? faux news much??

      November 10, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Reply
  44. benjamin bbaale

    America has in the past used cultural imperialism, dollar imperialism & drones are a true signs of military imperialism

    November 10, 2012 at 10:55 am | Reply
    • Kevin

      Not our fault the rest of the world had to play catch up.

      November 10, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Reply
    • sfoch

      True.

      November 10, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Reply
  45. Pinkflam

    I can't wait for the report that an armed drone shot down an unarmed drone. This to be followed by a report that an drone loaded with explosives kamikazied a drone hanger. Now that's the inevitable face of the "drone wars".

    November 10, 2012 at 10:52 am | Reply
    • Yoshi Togukawa

      The Clone Wars are sure to follow...

      November 10, 2012 at 11:39 am | Reply
  46. Jaimie

    Maybe our government should put air to air missile on these drones for self defense.

    November 10, 2012 at 10:52 am | Reply
    • some drones cant

      carry air-air missiles, they aren't big enough.

      November 10, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Reply
      • jake

        if they can carry a hellfire, they can carry a sidewinder.........

        November 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
  47. genold

    Time to develop drone air to air defense and offense capability.

    November 10, 2012 at 10:43 am | Reply
  48. Penny Wright

    Iranians are so lame, they can't even shoot down a drone.

    November 10, 2012 at 10:38 am | Reply
    • sfoch

      Well...Iranians have nuclear technology, ballistic missile technology, satellites in space, stem cell research, top engineering schools, and are amongst the most educated in Asia. The jets did not intend to shoot the drone down but to fire on it as a line in the sand. This is something we also do to aircraft that cross borders (we don't really know if the US drone was in international waters or not; if so, we wouldn't admit it anyway). Iran has US and Soviet Jets that are quite capable of shooting down drones. Israel would not be scared if Iran was so incompetent. BTW A disproportionate number of our scientists in the USA are from this part of the world now so it argues strongly against their incompetence. It is our education that has to be worried about now that we are number 25 in science/match in the world.

      November 10, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Reply
  49. correctlycenter

    Ahmadinejad started this mess when he shot off his mouth about exterminating Israel, while in the process developing nuclear weapons. I believe the mullahs and their head puppet are hellbent on getting rid of Israel and any US troops in the middle eastern area...

    November 10, 2012 at 10:19 am | Reply
    • sfoch

      Actually this isn't where the conflict began. It has been going on for decades started by the British and the USA after they invaded and took control of their country (even toppling one of Asia's first democracies in order to achieve it). Iran was a pro-western country until 1979. And for the record, neither Iran or their president ever said anything about exterminating or wiping Israel off the map. That is now a fact that even Israeli officials admit to. The interview with the Deputy PM of Israel recently (available on YouTube) proves this. The solution Ahmadinejad offered about Israel was to leave it up to democratic vote, a referendum based on what the peoples of that region feel should happen (e.g. two states, one state, etc...). His speech back in 2006 was commenting that like Saddam and the USSR, Israel would one day "pass from the pages of time". NYT changed it into the "wipe Israel off the map" went viral and it evokes a strong reaction. Despite the translation being corrected, we like to keep repeating it. Even when asked about this today, Ahmadinejad provides the same consistent answer and denies any intention of attacking or harming Israeli people. Iran is the oldest continuous home of Judaism in the world and it has had no better friend for 3000 years.

      BTW I am only providing facts. I am neither for or against the IRI, but rather take issue with propagation of bad information which escalates tensions.

      November 10, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Reply
  50. Arif Khan

    Chances of WORLD WAR 3 Are Near.

    November 10, 2012 at 10:06 am | Reply
  51. goosegun

    With the potential loss of privacy comes the potential to protect your "personal air space". The smaller UAVs often fly pretty low, so we keep a 10 gauge full choke loaded with #2 close at hand. Defend the crop !

    November 10, 2012 at 9:18 am | Reply
  52. Steve Morse

    In my mind the drone is an easy way to test the reaction time of the defenses along the coast. You keep track of the readiness of Iran by probing those places looking for an easy ingress point for future events. Seems smart to me to be clandestine about it and know all you can about weak points in the coastal air defenses. We lost a lot of surveillance planes to the Russians in the early days of the cold war doing that exact thing. Drones are relatively cheap in comparison for the kind of high quality information they can give back...

    November 10, 2012 at 8:49 am | Reply
    • sfoch

      True but it is highly unlikely that the Iranian jets missed the relatively slow drone. Like the USA and other countries, warning shots are fired to draw a line in the sand. Even WWII planes would have brought the drone down. We don't really know if it entered their waters or not. We would always deny it. We may have done so like you say to test the waters.

      November 10, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Reply
  53. mind control victim

    I hope there is a nuclear war sometime soon.
    I look forward to being drafted to fight in a radiation suit.

    November 10, 2012 at 8:28 am | Reply
    • Joseph McCarthy

      Another senseless comment from another lame-brained Tea Partier! Thank you, mind control victim.

      November 10, 2012 at 8:37 am | Reply
    • Yoshi Togukawa

      Have you adjusted your aluminium foil hat today?

      November 10, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
  54. ronvan

    DRINES, TECHNOLOGY & THE UNINFORMED: Unmanned aricraft is just the tip of the iceberg and an example of our countries capabilities! WHY would you NOT want to use a piece of equipment that does not involve a human life?
    Through technology the human element is being REDUCED! F111 – ONE human, B-2 – 2 humans, unmanned – NO humans! Even our magnificent military, "ground forces" are becoming so advanced that they can do MORE with LESS!
    And do not bother me with a comment that these dones can kill people! SO WHAT! They keep our enemies at bay and seeking cover! MY biggest problem is that WE think that WE must know everything about everything! NOT!! Secrets are supposed to be just that, and WE do not need to know about things, that become public, and result in our enemies knowing also!

    November 10, 2012 at 8:23 am | Reply
    • Joseph McCarthy

      Thank you ronvan for vomiting out your ignorance on this web page! Of course our drones kill people and you know it unless you're a total moron so spare us all that right-wing mumbo-jumbo. In fact, those godless drones need to be outlawed at the U.N. but even so, thr U.S. along with Great Britain and France will only ignore such a statute in one ever passed!!!

      November 10, 2012 at 8:32 am | Reply
      • Brian

        Thanks for your trolling rant. But pass.

        November 10, 2012 at 9:30 am |
      • sam

        ooooooooooo "godless drones", no good.......................god drones, good! ...........oooooooooooooo better to lose lives than use "godless drones"...................... ooooooooooooo

        November 10, 2012 at 10:03 am |
    • John Locke

      They are enemies of our own making.

      November 10, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Reply
    • jake

      uh.... ronvan – the 111 had a crew of TWO! please read a book.....

      November 10, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Reply
  55. Jo

    Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered air space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's!

    November 10, 2012 at 7:32 am | Reply
    • Joseph McCarthy

      Good grief Jo, how do you know that the Iranians didn't miss that cursed drone on purpose? Besides, how would you feel if the Russians started sending their drones into our air space? Not good, I bet! It's just as wrong for us to do that to others despite all this right-wing mumbo-jumbo about our "national security"!!!

      November 10, 2012 at 8:26 am | Reply
      • dewed

        "Besides, how would you feel if the Russians started sending their drones into our air space?"

        Probably the same way we'd feel if they flew manned aircraft into our air space. Happens all the time.

        Also, this Predator wasn't in Iranian airspace, and they most assuredly -were- trying to shoot it down. The Su-25 isn't a fighter aircraft, it's a ground attack aircraft. They brought the wrong tool for the job.

        November 10, 2012 at 8:51 am |
    • Danny

      Jo.. Your English, grammar, and sentence structure is atrocious. I have no doubt you're quite proud of yourself for typing that little rant up, but trust me pumpkin, it's nothing to be so proud of, and not worthy of posting 200 times.

      November 10, 2012 at 8:47 am | Reply
    • Kelly

      Apparently, that is all you have to say. Could you give us a break now?

      November 10, 2012 at 9:08 am | Reply
    • sfoch

      They missed it on purpose to draw a line in the sand without going the distance to start a war. The USA and everyone elses does the same thing unless it is actually in your airspace. No way they missed it. It was absolutely missed intentionally.

      November 10, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Reply
  56. Jo

    Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's!

    November 10, 2012 at 7:31 am | Reply
  57. sarroub mourad

    Reblogged this on msarroub.

    November 10, 2012 at 7:09 am | Reply
  58. Jiri bank ski

    Yawn zzzzzzzzzzz

    November 10, 2012 at 6:48 am | Reply
  59. Bob Balderston

    sometimes i chuckle at the folly of some people's responses here, acting like armchair generals. information is the key element here, the retrieval of it, namely. sure we have craft in space to look down, but since many of them are in a moving orbit, they can only focus for a set period of time. real time, information is key here.with iran, like soviet russian was back in theday, is a closed society. gathering information on such, is risky and difficult. any strong country, including china, russia, the u.k. and such, rely on information to provide them of any potential hot spots or problems that could affect their best interests. for every 1 drone flight you hear about, and complain about, trust me, there are plenty more that you don't hear about. drones also provide checks of potential leaks or short comings of potiental enemies weakness and capablities. warfare has changed; with the advent of urban warfare, being able to be flexible and quicky act upon a situation, is key to the missions at hand. in many cases, a fast drone strike, is easier and more effective, than trying to field a flight of fighters or bombers in a timely fashion. most importantly, if you do strike with drones, you are sending a message; if we really wanted to mess with you, we can, level your country with bombs; but since you are only worth garnishing a fraction of our time, here is a few pop shots,since that is all you are worth.

    November 10, 2012 at 6:45 am | Reply
    • Jo

      Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! Good Luck with that!

      November 10, 2012 at 7:35 am | Reply
  60. Lee

    Idiot American . Iran wanted to take political advantage by shooting drone ? Stupid thinking . Hizbulah had sent drone in Israeli so called Iron drome . Does Iran need to repeat it ? Or in response of Hizbullah's drone America needs to send a drone in Iranian Airspace ?

    November 10, 2012 at 6:41 am | Reply
    • Jo

      Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! Who's the idiot here? lmao

      November 10, 2012 at 7:36 am | Reply
      • TopView20

        Shoot them Iranians!

        November 11, 2012 at 10:36 am |
    • Jo

      Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! Idiot muslim!

      November 10, 2012 at 8:11 am | Reply
      • Old Soldier

        Jo (and anyone of his-her ilk): the fact jet fighters can engage but miss a drone is not surprising. In fact, one of the strengths in UAVs is their flight profiles of "low and slow" (let's ignore some UAV developments aimed at dip flying extremely high outside grounds ire ranges and many airborne weapons). A jet flies so daggoned fast, it has problems with slow movers that have tiny cross sections and hard to hit designs. As far back as Korea, it was found that a slow aircraft, flying low to the terrain, made poor targets for fast burners. If it misses its shot, the jet takes a relatively long time and a lot of distance to turn for another shot; it gives its target time to redact

        November 10, 2012 at 10:46 am |
      • Jo

        the f-22 raptor can fire these things facing away from the aircraft to be shot down or upside down and facing away or in the steepest dive they can do facing away we can fire our missiles at an aircraft the second they leave the flight deck and hit six targets simultaneously without them even knowing that the raptor is in the air

        November 10, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
      • Old Soldier

        Oops! Fat finger fouled up. Meant to say time to react, make turns, seek cover, etc. while working on the Hunter UAV program with the Intelligence School, we learned about perceived weaknesses of the UAV which were, in reality, strengths. They are quieter; can stay so low a ground pounder can't acquire and fire in time to hit it; and be past the ground pounder before he can respond effectively. Trees and other objects mask their sound and allow very limited time to acquire and fire. Also, we tend to design our UAVs with redundancies to protect the asset if it loses ground control: we plug in waypoints the UAV can follow back home if commo is lost; we fly relay UAVs up high to maintain commo despite terrain feature obstruction; and if the UAV becomes hopelessly lost, once it makes that decision it can self-destruct. Lets factor out what ifs like the pilots we poor shots, the missiles or guns weren't of decent quality, or they were only sending a message (much like the message Uncle Mo [insult name we used for Moamar Khadafi] used decades ago after we splashed two of his jets when he jumped into a "PT boat" to attack our fleet). Just because they missed a UAV isn't relevant just like shooting it while it flew outside their airspace. Anyone can miss a target, especially when flying that fast at a target just humming along. Jets and missiles are optimized for jets and other bigger, hotter targets. Just be happy they didn't destroy some expensive hardware. Story might have been far different if they engaged a US jet fighter. They wasted some defense money, and we can chuckle at them. So soldier up, get real, and study about an issue before you puke on one of these pages. Tchuss!

        November 10, 2012 at 11:07 am |
  61. VFRonTOP

    Colton, your math is irrelevant. Intel gathering aircraft fly parallel to countries, not at them.

    November 10, 2012 at 5:13 am | Reply
    • mindcrime

      Parallel to what?

      So intel drones only fly along the coast, despite the information they need being on the interior of the country...

      How delightfully naive.

      November 10, 2012 at 5:46 am | Reply
      • VFRonTOP

        Parallel to the country, outside of the 12 NM, or "standoff" as its called. You are delightfully naive to think that we have to fly over a country to see it.

        November 10, 2012 at 5:53 am |
  62. ksmith42

    Drones do not have to be a sign of the times. As a matter of fact, it is wasteful to consume fuel on drone flights. This fuel can instead be used for tourism and commerce, wisely. We do not have to accept imperialism and violence. It is not ethical; it is not God's will.

    November 10, 2012 at 4:05 am | Reply
    • Joseph McCarthy

      Thank you, ksmith42. That was very good posting above.

      November 10, 2012 at 8:41 am | Reply
  63. bribarian

    Sorry, nobody wants your wars any more.

    November 10, 2012 at 3:47 am | Reply
  64. government cheese

    Drone incident over the Gulf: A sign of the times? You are kidding, right? Are the Libya killings a sign of the times?

    November 10, 2012 at 3:16 am | Reply
  65. massoud

    In 1953 the C.I.A.'S Operation Ajax overthrew the democratic elected Prime Minister Mossadegh and installed the west's puppet, the Shah of Iran who was a brutal murderer of Iranians, this led to the Iranian Revolution in 1979 hostage crisis and the radical clerics who went into power. Then in 1980 the USA backed Iraq's invasion of Iran led by the despot Saddam Hussein. We have put crippling sanctions on Iran because they wont play the Petro Dollar Game, and the USA has 30 bases surrounding Iran and yet Iran is always the aggressor, according to the CFRs henchmen.

    November 10, 2012 at 2:25 am | Reply
    • Richard

      A drone is a cheap and safe way to bait the Iranians, if that's what they had in mind. But, if Iran shot the thing down, the U.S. can't really do anything, because no lives were threatened by it.

      November 10, 2012 at 3:38 am | Reply
      • Jo

        Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! HELLO!

        November 10, 2012 at 7:38 am |
      • TopView20

        Nope, we can shoot them Iranians!

        November 11, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • pooya_Tehran

      Mr masoud your view to US backs to 50 years ago but there is important fact about now and we must think about it.the presence is more important than past.
      please don't pretend in your expression that Iran is harmless instead US is harmful.If Iran gov gets more power
      that will screw up Irainian people first then next time US.This is the real challenge which we irainian people have.

      November 10, 2012 at 8:40 am | Reply
    • sfoch

      This is all true but the western powers have their own agenda and ignoring these facts is advantageous to their needs. You can't say "Well we have behaved very badly to those people and yes we have attempted decade after decade to control their country and take its resources. And yes we know that they never threatened to harm Israel or the Jews but it works so well for us that we need to keep that anger going to justify our next attack on them. Darn Iranians are the last piece of the middle east around the Persian Gulf that we do not have control or military presence in. Why won't they just give us what we want? We have large cars over here, don't they understand that?"

      November 10, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Reply
  66. EvilUSA

    I see no point in bothering Iran. Look at all the nations that have nuclear bombs and how long they haven't been used. The whole thing is dumb. Iran could wipe out all the country's around it with just conventional weapons if it had the commanders to do so. But they haven't done that either. As a matter of fact they haven't attacked anyone in such along time (214 years) I don't think if they did it would be some sort of great battle. Do they have problems with funding ugly thing yes they do. But a war against them is dumb. Israel wants this not us. let them be worse than they already are.
    What really need to happen is we send some over there directly for a change instead of being a joke,, and say hay look around you, see all the other counties that have no place to dispose of this stuff be smart unlike us don't do it! We won't attack! leave everyone alone sign here shake hands drop sanctions get on with life.

    November 10, 2012 at 1:54 am | Reply
    • Larry

      Good reply

      November 10, 2012 at 9:54 am | Reply
    • sam

      ok, sign here and move on!. sign off on threatening the destruction of israel, sign off on supplying hezbollah with rockets, sign off on threatening the closure of the straits of hormuz, sign off on developing nuclear weapons, sign off on training and funding insurgents in afghanistan and iraq to kill NATO and US soldiers...........sounds good to me.

      November 10, 2012 at 10:10 am | Reply
  67. Colton

    Anyone notice the difference in the wording? The drone was reportedly at 16 miles from the coast and the Iranian airspace is at 12 nautical miles... do the math and that is just over 13.8 miles so at 135 mph it takes all of a minute to cross the line. The truth is you will never hear the truth about everything. Odds are there will be a war, why else would Israel spend double Iran's defensive budget on weapons and weapon platforms annually? Unless they are going with the Cold War Russia approach of build it then let it rust.

    November 10, 2012 at 1:33 am | Reply
    • Jo

      Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! We wouldn't even have to put 1 boot on the ground

      November 10, 2012 at 7:40 am | Reply
    • sam

      it is a shame that Israel is forced to spend so much on defense just to ensure its survival. do you think it has anything to do with the fact that it's neighbors threaten its existence daily?

      November 10, 2012 at 10:12 am | Reply
  68. d

    Why does the media keep referring to these aircraft as drones? The military's official name for them is RPA's (remotely piloted aircraft). The RPAs are killing most of the enemies on the battlefield. Media .....call them RPA's.

    November 9, 2012 at 11:29 pm | Reply
    • will

      The real "drone" is the dipshidiot in DC.

      November 10, 2012 at 12:44 am | Reply
  69. Seanpz1

    Iranian drone flying up USA coast line you think we would shoot loll. Act of war what a joke. Sound like act of defense

    November 9, 2012 at 11:10 pm | Reply
    • Cn

      Sounds like another stupid Chinaman commenting.

      November 10, 2012 at 12:05 am | Reply
    • Guest

      We absolutely would not shoot down an aircraft, or ship, manned or otherwise operating in international airspace or waters. You have no idea what you're talking about.

      November 10, 2012 at 4:21 am | Reply
      • sss

        Actually, we did shoot down an Iranian airliner over the gulf in the 80s. Full of passengers, too. Gee, why are they so angry?!?!

        November 10, 2012 at 6:08 am |
    • sam

      sounds like you need to wash that yellow streak off your back

      November 10, 2012 at 10:13 am | Reply
  70. Timotije Markovic

    Mathew 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.

    November 9, 2012 at 10:50 pm | Reply
    • M Houston

      You must be one of"God's" drones...

      November 9, 2012 at 11:36 pm | Reply
      • Say it ain't so

        & you must be one of God's rejects

        November 10, 2012 at 1:57 am |
      • DEK

        Well-said, we indeed live in the last days, and wars are by far not the only sign.

        November 10, 2012 at 4:32 am |
      • lalaland

        @sayitaintso...love your comment!

        November 10, 2012 at 4:37 am |
    • Erick Ngosia

      True timotije, just as people get engrossed in world events,, as the world turns upside down, never forget to read the Bible. thanks

      November 10, 2012 at 5:13 am | Reply
  71. IndiaGuy

    According to Tehran Times, the "unidentified aircraft entered the airspace over Iranian territorial waters".

    November 9, 2012 at 10:43 pm | Reply
    • Jo

      Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! OK India guy, so it wandered into their air space. they still couldn't shoot it down lmao

      November 10, 2012 at 7:42 am | Reply
  72. smith

    Strange fact curiously not mentioned in the article.....This happened on NOV 1, why was it reported AFTER the election Nov 6...that is the power your majesty has.

    November 9, 2012 at 10:39 pm | Reply
    • BigDrop

      Because this is what passes for "most open and transparent administration in our history" in the Democrat world. Mr. Obama, you are a disgrace.

      November 10, 2012 at 12:21 am | Reply
      • Andeeee

        Of course when baby bush lied through his teeth to everyone on earth about Iraq I'm sure you didn't mind. Hypocrite? Na, republican.

        November 10, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • krehator

      Yes, and aliens are real. Bush faked 9/11. We are all going to do on 21 December too.

      November 10, 2012 at 2:19 am | Reply
  73. IndiaGuy

    When a US drone flies within 16 miles off the Iranian coast, it's still in "international airspace". But when a Russian submarine comes within 275 miles off the US coast, it infiltrates US waters. Love the double standards here.

    November 9, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Reply
    • ChrisVC

      Those with the firepower set the standard.

      November 10, 2012 at 12:18 am | Reply
      • Jo

        Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! Hoohah Chris!

        November 10, 2012 at 7:47 am |
    • USMC

      READ you fool. The article says the Russian sub was NOT in US territorial waters. Stupid liberal fact twister...

      November 10, 2012 at 12:33 am | Reply
    • Allan

      If the submarine has nuclear warheads then I think that is reasonable. The drone flies at 135 mph. So besides surveillance and possibly a singular hellfire missile it's pretty impotent. Get it?

      November 10, 2012 at 12:48 am | Reply
      • Jo

        Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! yup

        November 10, 2012 at 7:48 am |
  74. Allen

    sleepy

    November 9, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Reply
  75. bh

    What's really a sign of the times is that we have a coward for a president who won't take decisive action. Sad... The U.S. just keeps getting hammered.

    November 9, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Reply
    • BigShiz

      He is the most decisive pres we've had in a long time. Your just mad money bags mittens lost. Too bad for you.

      November 9, 2012 at 10:51 pm | Reply
    • Lujan

      Lol, So what action do you wish? Another war? You surely are not someone who is knowledgeable of how specific military action is not something that is should be used without recognizing its possibilities.

      November 9, 2012 at 10:53 pm | Reply
      • Jo

        Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive upside down or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's!

        November 10, 2012 at 8:04 am |
    • allenwoll

      bh - Go have a nice little pointless war - but lubricate it with YOUR blood and pay for it with YOUR dime ! ! !

      IRAN is IRRELEVANT ! ! !

      November 9, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Reply
    • Seanpz1

      Worst comment ever lo

      November 9, 2012 at 11:12 pm | Reply
    • M Houston

      What's really a sign of the times" is that Limbaugh's drones (otherwise known as Ditto heads) are so stupidly proud of their stupidity...

      November 9, 2012 at 11:41 pm | Reply
  76. b

    a sign of the times is we get attacked and do nothing.

    November 9, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Reply
    • Seanpz1

      We get attacked. Are u serious we send a un maned spy plane up there cost and they shoot and u call that being attacked. You are very simple sir

      November 9, 2012 at 11:13 pm | Reply
      • Jo

        Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! too bad for your views ace

        November 10, 2012 at 8:02 am |
  77. katlin

    GOOGLE:::911missinglinks::: israel is no friend of USA

    November 9, 2012 at 9:52 pm | Reply
    • lenny

      katlin and kathy posting from the same computer while their hijabs fall down over their eyes.........ooooooooo too much hookah!

      November 10, 2012 at 10:20 am | Reply
  78. cathy

    israel is a cancer....... we will not go to war to make israel happy.

    November 9, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Reply
    • lenny

      "we"?? you mean all the girls in dearborn?

      November 10, 2012 at 10:21 am | Reply
  79. jefersen

    ahhhhh, this is not the first time Iran brings a Drone down. just a little while ago they landed one in their back yard. And just 3 to 4 weeks ago one flew into iran and was taken down. Guess what? they have copy your drone technology.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Reply
    • jefersen

      sorry. correction: one flew into Israel and was taken down. Iran clone the drone technology that a 10 grader can hack

      November 9, 2012 at 8:51 pm | Reply
    • Jean

      They didn't bring the drone down. The article states they missed and it returned to base.

      November 9, 2012 at 10:47 pm | Reply
      • TickedNYer

        He was referring to the Hizbolla UAV, that flew into Israeli airspace, and was shot down.

        November 10, 2012 at 8:25 am |
  80. EVN

    Is shooting at a suspected spy drone really an act of war? Or is sending the drone the act of aggression that justifies the attempt of self-defense?

    I suspect the answer lies in whose drone it is and who's doing the shooting – much like one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. And serious, if it was an Iranian drone off of American shores, the U.S. would be doing the same, and the supposed distinction of it being 16 miles off shore, instead of within the 12 mile terratorial limits, would be meaningless. The only difference (if Iran was seriously attempting to shoot it down) would be that the U.S. would have succeeded.

    You poke at someone enough, they are going to strike back. I thought we all learned that in grade school.

    November 9, 2012 at 7:56 pm | Reply
    • 1234

      All fine and good, but, has anybody been following the stuff going on along Euphrates River and the book of revelations in Bible. People get ready!

      November 9, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Reply
    • Seanpz1

      Great comment

      November 9, 2012 at 11:16 pm | Reply
    • Guest

      You're a moron. The four nautical mile distance makes all the difference in the world. It is perfectly legal under the treaties that Iran is a party to for us to operate 16nm off their coast. It is equally legal for them to do the same off our coast. We did not cross into their airspace, they came into international territory to fire on another country's property. We'll see if you still think it's legit when it's a passenger airplane.

      November 10, 2012 at 4:25 am | Reply
      • EVN

        The U.S. is not going to stand on the nicities of an Iranian drone being 16 miles off shore, as opposed to 12. It will be perceived as a threat and responded to. The "moron" comment only demonstrates infantilism.

        November 10, 2012 at 9:18 am |
    • Jo

      Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! EVN They Couldn't shoot it down it was too fast for their highly trained fighter pilots

      November 10, 2012 at 7:52 am | Reply
  81. Bribarian

    Stinks of falseflag, say no to the zi0nist wars.

    November 9, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Reply
    • rick

      "bribarian" aka Mr irrelevant!! oooooooooooooo "zionist" wars on the mind when Iran fires at an American Drone in international waters oooooooooooo obsession!!

      November 10, 2012 at 10:24 am | Reply
  82. Terrible_Ted

    Soon the missles will be flying in The Middle East. Hallelujah...Hallelujah...Hallelujah

    November 9, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Reply
    • old golfer

      Be real careful what you wish for.

      November 9, 2012 at 8:31 pm | Reply
    • Jo

      Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! yes they will

      November 10, 2012 at 8:01 am | Reply
  83. CuriosityKilledTheCat

    Open Question to all: If the U.S. and Iran go to war, will our ally Russia allow invasion from the Caspian Sea given it's location with respect to Tehran?? (please answer people, i wouldnt ask if your opinion was of no value!!)

    November 9, 2012 at 6:59 pm | Reply
    • George Patton

      The answer to your question is hopefully not. I hope that the Russians won't be dumb nor amoral enough to stand for such a scenario! Everything needs to done to avert such another obnoxious and useless war over there, but then again, the right-wing thugs in Washington along with American big business leaders see things differently!!!

      November 9, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Reply
    • old golfer

      China would probably not be impressed if we invaded Iran.

      November 9, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Reply
    • ChrisVC

      No. Russia is a closer ally in the regional sense to Iran than the US. They certainly have no intention of making any our the US's wars any easier than they have too.

      November 10, 2012 at 12:20 am | Reply
    • George Kim

      I think if The US goes to war with Iran Iran stands to be the victor in the long run i look at a scenario where 90% of world nations will support Iran while US allies will be Western Europe and Israel ITS HIGH TIME THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION REVIEWS ITS FOREIGN POLICY ON AFRICA, MIDDLE EAST AND CHINA.

      November 10, 2012 at 1:46 am | Reply
      • rick

        "90%" of the world will support Iran!! Coo Coo Kim!

        November 10, 2012 at 10:26 am |
  84. CuriosityKilledTheCat

    To Obama: Either sit Ahmed. down directly, talk this thing out, come to some kind of understanding between all of us, or bomb him into submission, i dont care which, but end this. I dont want another 9/11 before you finally come to either conclusion!!!

    November 9, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Reply
    • chris

      bombing iran would be foolish all they would do is retaliate and start a nuculeor war

      November 9, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Reply
      • nw93kn1

        A *one-sided* nuclear war perhaps…

        November 9, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
      • joe

        Iran and iraq fought 8 years and neither side could beat the other. Years later, desert storm breaks out and the usa beats iraq in 3 months. The usa did to iraq in 3 months what iran could not do in 8 years.

        November 9, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
      • Jo

        Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! They don't have Nuclear weapons chris. Man some of these people that post need to study their facts or shut the hell up

        November 10, 2012 at 7:54 am |
      • rick

        retaliate? for about the 3 hours it would take to destroy their military capabilities and slap them into the last century! retaliate? like when we send our ships through the straits? impose sanctions? retaliate? LOL!!

        November 10, 2012 at 10:28 am |
  85. royalthird

    Surveillance drone over international waters? What was it doing, studying the behavior of migratory fish? Common sense is that it was spying on Iran and two jets were scrambled to chase it out of the territory. Shots were fired around the plane so that those who were remotely controlling it would see it. Otherwise you have some very sorry jet fighter pilots out of Iran or their computer targeting systems need a tremendous upgrade. When explainations don't make common sense there're usually a lie. Governmental explainations are used over and over again. This one dates back to U2 flights over Russia. "No we are not doing this." Next thing you know Russia has Gary Powers parading him on national television.

    November 9, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Reply
    • Organic1

      Oil shipping lanes come to mind, you think they are looking for flipper?

      November 9, 2012 at 6:35 pm | Reply
    • duckforcover

      The Iranians definitely would have shot it down if they could. But they can't. Good news for the F-16s coming from Isreal!

      November 9, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Reply
    • are122

      Maybe it was keeping an eye on Osama bin Laden.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Reply
    • VFRonTOP

      Nobody is denying that the drone was collecting intel on Iran, and it was. The fact of the matter is that it was operating in internation airspace. Any country can fly anything they want as long as they remain outside of 12 NM from a countries coastline, thats international law.

      November 10, 2012 at 5:20 am | Reply
    • Jo

      Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! Royal It was watching the shipping lanes that Iran threatened to shut down. Or Mine.

      November 10, 2012 at 7:56 am | Reply
  86. D.R. One

    I absolutely do not see this as any sort of incident. It reeks of tail wagging dog in an effort to goad Iran. This is not needed as the regime there will crumble once the people get sick and tired of being dictated to by a bunch of extremist Imams.

    November 9, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Reply
  87. Fr33th1nk3r

    Despite all the whining and propaganda coming out of the middle east and the left wing, drones are the way to fight the wars of the future. They keep our personel safe, while being able to deliver ordinance on the enemy with surgical precision. Contrary to reports, they greatly minimize civlian deatsh and collateral damage.
    There is no downside to using them.

    November 9, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Reply
    • Viper

      If drone can deliver with "surgical precision" as you mention, why are there such huge civilian casualties (and yes there are huge numbers of dead civilians)?
      Are you saying that US is either 1) too stupid to operate drones proper or 2) that we are killing the civilians on purpose (aka US are committing warcrimes)?
      And if children being blown up by drone attacks is in your mind "no downside", then you should seek medical help!

      November 9, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Reply
      • Alaq Musltaffi

        Civilian deaths have never been the intention, but extremists use their own community as cover up for their operations. Family, friends and neighbors are all fair game amidst their operations. In an ideal world terrorists would not involve civilians to ensure they are not casualties of war. Our world isn't ideal.

        November 9, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
      • Jo

        Lemme see if I get this right. Drone is flying 5 miles from Iran's considered space (12miles offshore) two mind you, TWO Iranian fighter jets fired on this slow moving drone (135 mph max) with no defense against those fighters and MISSES??? ROTFLMMAO!!! How do these fighter pilots explain this to their Superiors? Geez General Mohamed it was traveling at lightning speed we just couldn't hit it.! lmao! If they can't hit a defenseless drone How are they going to hit one of our F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter that can't be seen on radar and can fire an AMRAM fire and forget missile from 125 miles away from them and destroy six targets simultaneously from 125 miles away and can reach and sustain Mach 1.7 in SUPERCRUISE mode (For a very long time without afterburners VERY long range capabilities) and can out-fly easily any other fighter on the PLANET! reach top speeds of over mach 2 and can fire those missiles going into a full dive or turn at top speed. All I have to say is ALLah help them if they EVER have to go nose to nose with one of our boy's! No war in history has been without civilian casualties. That was the main target of the Germans in WWII

        November 10, 2012 at 7:57 am |
    • rick

      your post is right on. the only people posting negative and anti US comments are muslim and palestinian apologists who will use any excuse to promulgate their big lie that they are the "victims". dont forget the palestinian mantra: "woe is me, woe is me, everyone but us is the cause of our misery"

      November 10, 2012 at 10:32 am | Reply
  88. sarge from Utah

    "The defenders of the Islamic Republic will respond decisively to any form of encroachment by air, sea or on the ground," and miss! Hahaha!

    November 9, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Reply
    • Sam

      They wanted to say we can shoot it down, but we are not going to.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Reply
  89. Mike

    Didn't Iran already shoot one down? Last year or something...

    November 9, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Reply
    • TickedNYer

      I can't remember positively, but I think that UAV had a malfunction and crashed. It came down in Iran though, and they did recover it. Not really sure how damaged it was either.

      November 10, 2012 at 8:42 am | Reply
  90. harold

    why couldn't they hit it?

    November 9, 2012 at 5:39 pm | Reply
  91. Walk

    Next time Iran tries to act tough the US should put them in their place. Its not a matter of if there will be a war with Iran but when, seeming they wont give up their Nuclear program which has enriched uranium well past the level needed for medical purposes. I think that act of aggression just reinforces what everybody has been saying, that Iran is dangerous and unpredictable, will not negotiate and needs to be dealt with.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      The sanctions are wrecking Iran right now. I figure the administration is thinking Iran will fall due to economic pressures long before they develope an actual nuclear weapon.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Reply
    • M. A

      Well Mr Commander in Cheif, how can we afford going to another war with this economic recession we are dealing with at home? Would you like to work double shift and donate to government to make Israel happy and go to war with Iran? I don't think so. More importantly, how many Americam lives would you be willing to put on the line for that?

      November 9, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Reply
      • M Houston

        " this economic recession we are dealing with at home" is a direct result of another "Mr. Commander in Chief" lying
        us into a war in Iraq. MY present Commander in Chief is far more rational than that other one, and will NOT lead us
        down that treacherous route again...

        November 9, 2012 at 11:52 pm |
    • Viper

      Brilliant Einstein!
      So you think it is perfectly ok to spy on eachothers countries?
      What do you think US would do if Iran, China or Russia sent spy drones to our shores? we would probably start WW3, give at least the iranians the credit for firing warning shots, doubt we would have done the same.
      Also answer me this, how do the iranians know if a drone has weapons or cameras? That was the problem in the Cuba crisis, low flying fighters taking pictures over Cuba, and Cuba fired at them because in their eyes, they could be carrying bombs.
      We have pushed our self into a corner, WE (and our pitbull Israel) have forced Iran to expect hostilities from us.

      And in the question on if this drone was in Iranian terrority, yep I believe that, the US have for 6 years now (publicly) and for 50 years (secretly) had the policy that borders are no matter to us, we go where and when we want and kill who we what.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Reply
      • Casual observer

        I believe that we are all adults here and for what it is worth if Iran had the means it would spy on us as we do them. Same goes for all so called allies, enemies and nuetral observers. We can talk and be polite to each other diplomatically yet wield the dagger and cloak behind our backs just as they do. enough said, we all do it or would if we had the means to.

        Welcome to our new 21st century 12 years into it

        November 9, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
      • Valleywalker

        For what it's worth, the photos during the Cuban missile crisis were taken by the U2 spy plane from 70,000 feet. The Cubans were building missile bases capable of reaching anywhere in the US within a few minutes. On another note, if countries do not recognize international waters and airspace, the stronger countries will control them. If someone gives you reason to consider them a threat, do you keep an eye on them, or just ignore them and hope that we can just all get along.

        November 9, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
  92. joe

    Keep pucking with Iran, and they will keep defending themselves.

    Simple.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Reply
    • Berman

      The drone was in international airspace. That was an act of aggression, not defense. Learn the difference.

      November 9, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Reply
      • George Patton

        How do you know that, Berman? Are you a Tea Partier or what? Only a fool would believe everything that the right-wing news media says!!!

        November 9, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
      • Kailim

        Tom was not in the female toilet. In fact he was peeping through the key hole from outside. Learn the difference.

        November 9, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
      • Andrey

        I wonder what that drone was doing in "international airspace": wasting tax-payers money?

        November 9, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
      • Kevin9454

        Yes, 4 miles in the International Air Space, if you believe what you are told, although it was a classified mission. By the way, do you know how fast you would travel 4 miles at 500+ miles per hour?? Also, the folks who keep saying they missed, have you ever heard of warning shots?? What do they want to bring this one down for, when they hacked into the GPS of the most advanced one (RQ170), and brought it down. They were responding to the test of how long it takes for them to identify and respond to threat in their Air Space.

        November 10, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
      • mardjan

        Well now we know how close we can get to the Iranians. The drone was spying on them and they ran it off.May be they wanted to let us know that they have seen it, may be that is their way of saying buzz off!

        November 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • rick

      "they will keep defending themselves"? with more threats? big mouths and lots of yelling is not very fearsome, "joe"

      November 10, 2012 at 10:35 am | Reply

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