By Barbara Starr
Two Iranian Su-25 fighter jets fired on an unarmed U.S. Air Force Predator drone in the Persian Gulf on November 1, the Pentagon disclosed on Thursday.
The incident, reported first by CNN, raised fresh concerns within the Obama administration about Iranian military aggression in crucial Gulf oil shipping lanes.
The drone was on routine maritime surveillance in international airspace east of Kuwait, 16 miles off the coast of Iran, U.S. officials said. The Predator was not hit.
Also: U.S. adds to Iran sanctions
"Our aircraft was never in Iranian airspace. It was always flying in international air space. The recognized limit is 12 nautical miles off the coast and we never entered the 12 nautical mile limit," Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said in responding to questions from reporters after CNN reported the incident.
Little said the United States believed this was the first time an unmanned aircraft was shot at by the Iranians in international waters over the Gulf. In December of 2011, a U.S. surveillance drone crashed in eastern Iran. Iranians claimed to have shot it down, and created a toy model of the drone to celebrate its capture.
Little stopped short of calling the incident an act of war although the Pentagon was concerned.
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Two U.S. officials explained the jets were part of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps force, which has been more confrontational than regular Iranian military forces.
At least two bursts of gunfire came from the Su-25s' cannons. The drone started to move away but the Iranian aircraft chased it, doing aerial loops around it before breaking away and returning to Iran.
The Obama administration did not disclose the incident before the presidential election, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN on Thursday. They declined to be identified because of sensitive intelligence matters surrounding the matter.
The drone's still and video cameras captured the incident showing two Su-25s approaching the Predator and firing onboard guns.
The Iranian pilots continued to fire shots that went beneath the Predator but were never successful in hitting it, according to the officials.
U.S. military intelligence analysts are still not sure if the Iranian pilots simply were unable to hit the drone due to lack of combat skill, or whether they deliberately were missing and had no intention of bringing it down.
But as one of the officials said, "it doesn't matter, they fired on us."
Little said the United States has to assume Iran was trying to bring down the Predator.
The United States protested the incident but had not heard back from Iran.
Iran has, at other times, been confrontational in the region. In January, the U.S. military and coast guard had close encounters with Iranian Navy vessels which approached at high speeds and exhibited provocative behavior.
Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to the United States, declined to say whether his country knew about the incident before Pentagon officials
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Big Deal!
This reminds me of a news piece I did for CNN back in 1990. It was basically some fake propaganda garbage like most CNN pieces, but unfortunately we were on a live satellite feed to anyone with a C-band dish. Oops. If you want to watch the clip of me making some fake CNN 'news' go to YouTube and search for 'Charles Jaco', it's a real eye opener.
*Note I am not actually Charles Jaco but it's funnier this way.
Obama is a spineless coward. He won't do anything. We're screwed, America.
Fortunately, not quite as screwed as you are...
You mean, besides ordering the assassination of Osama Bin Laden in foreign territory?
You mean the Bin Laden that had already been dead for ten years?
Turn yourself clockwise... in other words go screw yourself.
Let's see, Obama lied and the press let him. What else is new? Pass the beer nuts.
First, I have a simple question. Why in the HELL was the drone unarmed? And why is our military sitting on info for political conveinence? Never fear folks, Mr. Putin will make BHO his Slave, before this is over!
Iran hacked 1 drone already, do you really think it would be wise to send up armed ones over the most vital water way in the developed world?
If it was armed, do you think shooting down an Iranian aircraft would have been an appropriate, and well thought out response?
There is help for you condition... I suggest you seek some.
This line said it all...
"The United States protested the incident but had not heard back from Iran."
Not only are viewed as weak – we are irrelevant.
Obama is working on an apology.
Your severe lack of sense is worrisome.
Yeah, let's see how crow tastes, when on their next encounter the drone blows the two jets into oblivion.
Obama is probably working up an aid package for Iran now to pay for the expenditure of ammunition and therapy for the pilots who missed.
What should have happened is they fired on us, we send up a flight of fighters who splashed them, end of story. No escalation, but they fired first.
You guys are idiots, if a war starts, Iran can close the gulf, at least temporarily. How do you think that will affect the world economy, being that most of the worlds oil travels through there. Typical armchair grunts, no brains, all talk.
All the more reason to treat them fairly and with justice. I'd hate for America to have to stop exporting oil (which we do)
got a trillion in your pocket to pay for another war?
No obama took it to force me into buying health insurance that i cant afford and i think we sent the rest egypt and israel.
Considering we helped over throw their democratically elected government in the 1950's, Helped Saddam Hussein in his war of aggression against them, have enacted crippling economic sanctions against them, have been illegally overflying their country for years with our spy planes, helped create electronic attacks on them,and have given tacit approval for Israels assassination squads to go after their politicians and scientists ...can you really blame them for being just a little bit hostile and paranoid when we get to close to their shores?
Iran is doing everything possible to divert its attention somewere else for better progress on its nuclear goals. they are at that red line and expect them to do more so Obama administration will blink for just a moment and then its on with the nuclear test fire at Isreal. And then what wait a few days condemn them and do an investigation, like in Bengazi like a whole list of other attacks on US interest and service members. No Country is gonna listen to talk or sanctions. REMEMBER PAIN EQUALS COMPLIANCE WORKS EVERY TIME. Lets get in get done get out regroup and assist from abroad, no occupation just force cooperation for humanity
BS. Iran allows inspections of its nuclear sites in compliance with the nuclear non proliferation treaty. They are not looking to build a nuclear bomb.
HAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*sniff* *cough* heh that was a good one. You really had me there for a while *snorkle*
Sarcasm noted, I hope.
If Iran is smart enough to build a nuclear bomb, they're smart enough to know that shooting it at Israel is a sure-fire way to turn Tehran into a glass parking lot.
Just like the US-USSR arms race, having nukes will greatly increase Iran's position in the middle east, and of course they would never actually use it. But unlike US of the 1950's, Israel has the firepower to put a stop to it.
Repubturds will start a war in a blink of a eye even if they have to use lies to do it. GWB invading Iraq was a prime example. Repubturds are war mongers and domestic terrorist. Party of scare tactics.
I doubt everything we are reporting.
I'm sure they were in Iranian air space.
Buncha dang liars.
Just because it has turned out that way 99 out of the last 99 times doesn't make it a lie this time. At least not to the warmongers who are still in denial of the last 99 lies.
I wouldn't doubt this whole story is a complete fabrication.
So, we are monitoring Iranian's reaction with provocative actions and want to find out how quick they can respond. Now we have collected that data and we can modify our next action. These sorts of careless and short sighted maneuvers will have greater consequences than most people can comprehend. This is not a Xbox game, people will die.
What are we doing off the coast of Iran with a drone half a world away is very clear. No one other than American population who needs more entertainment continuously would like to see some sort of hostility to break between Iran and US, as if it is a new game or a Movie to watch every night. There should be a total condemnation of our provocation against Iran. We have threatened the Iranians continuously and we have disregarded their legitimate rights. We have backed the Zionists and threaten the Iranians with bombing and other means including economic warfare. So, if Iran plans to defend herself don't be surprised your sons and daughter who are pawns in this scenario to get hurt.
Get real.
You do realize that we are about to go to war with Iran over their nuclear program? Obama promised as much as he said he would not tolerate them having nukes and Iran has made it clear it will obtain them. Our military is in the region and the presence will only get larger.
BS. Iran has consistently, from the mullahs down, denied it is seeking a nuclear bomb. Had it wanted one, it could have gotten one from the ex soviet blocs.
That is the point. We have no ground to stand on. IAEA inspectors have been in Iran and are still in Iran. The Iranians have signed the NPT long time ago. No smoking guns have ever been found. So, you are saying we can just go and bomb them??! What does International law and UN has to say about that? Pakistan has 100 of nuclear bomb missiles, Jews have twice as much, India has just as much and North Korea is still there. You think if Iran wanted to have a bomb yesterday they could not have come up with one as poor Pakistan did?
Get real.
So they are making bomb grade plutonium just because?
To David Driscoll,
Who says they are?! That is exactly the propaganda that is fed to the American Audience. IAEA has inspected Iranian nuclear program for over 25 years, the longest in that agency's history and NO smoking GUN has ever been found. The highest the Iranians enriched Uranium is 20% which is used in Teheran's Medical Isotope facility. They asked France to supply the Isotope rods but we stopped them from delivering it.
Get real.
You believe all what the gov't. tells you?
@ muse1876
The question is DO YOU?!
Pull your heads out of the sand and concentrate. This is now. The point still is we are constantly mislead and lied to for political gain. What is scary is that the media is silent with Obama. Do you not understand how dangerous this is? What happens when your man or anyone else has this power? Please think about this rationally people. It is not a partisan problem. I do not hate Obama, but I also do not let my kids do anything they want just because I love them.
I couldnt agee with you more...just like the 20 or so companies that have issued lay off notices within 48 hours of the election....all to protect who...OBAMA!
As far as I'm aware, our govt. has no obligation to release frivolous information. When/If the govt. fails to release information that could directly negatively affect you personally, then you can get upset. Not being told that another country fired on and missed an aircraft that if brought down would have resulted in no loss of life, is none of your concern.
So let me see, President Obama was informed about this last week before the election but kept it from the American People?
he is a dem. what do you expect. if he would of told the public before the election that might have hurt the chance of re-election. But he is very cool and down to earth leader touches the heart of the american people. we are being bulldogged in the biggest way from russia china and middle east we are a weak nation right now and the world knows it
I wouldn't believe anything from the news media these days. The international jewish organizations are all they are.
Last time CNN proudly reported a News about how bravely Israelis destroyed a unarmed foreign drone, Why does CNN has different standards, they are totally in the pockets of Zionazis and report whatever they can to help Zionazis in Israel and America.
Are they sure it was not a mob angry over a video?
Obama is a man of peace and won the Nobel Peace Prize. HE AIN'T GONNA DO A D*MNED THING ABOUT IT!
Would our response to Iranian drones in the Gulf of Mexico be any different?
Yes we would not fire upon it because it was in International waters...Just like when the Russians had their Sub in the gulf Just two months ago
Cdogg you might be speaking German right now if we let people like you run things. If you don't want to live here in a Superpower country then move. Or the next regime will enslave you.
Yes, it most certainly would be. International airspace is free for any nation to use. The fact that you would even ask just highlights how clueless you are as to the laws that govern interactions between nations.
Suprises that haven't fired on us before,since they have no fear whatsoever of our DEAR LEADER in the White House.
Gotta love the TeaBillies:
"The entire Media is againest us ... one big commie plot by Rupport Murdoch and General Dynamics, which own 75% of US media". Gotta watch those military defense firms and right wing Austrailians, they are really secret liberals.
"Obama isn't from here – he is an alien from outer space. Squak squak. Wheres his birth certificate"
"Rape is ok, God approves"
"The drone was really just on a peace keeping mission in Intl waters. And the one 2 weeks ago that Iran shot down in the middle of its country was really a fake – the Iranians were lying also".
"47% of Americans are losers, and they'll lie and cheat also. All of them"
"Lance Armstrong didn't do it – one big conspiracy by 25 unrelated atheletes, about 100 scientists. Even the drug testing firms were being paid off".
"God created earth 9000 years ago. All of those dinosauer bones are fakes, since there NEVER were dinosaurs."
Yep, life is one big conspiracy ... everyone is out to get us poor TeaBillies.
Better than AL GORE who invented the Internet.
internets
Sly, are you having problem with that one brain cell of yours? Try three in one oil, I hear that will reduce friction.
Sly, I think the wheels are coming off your bus.
"Two Iranian Su-25 fighter jets fired on an unarmed U.S. Air Force Predator drone in the Persian Gulf last week, CNN has learned."
When did CNN first "learn" of it? And why did it take a week to make it public?
Nice the president decided not to disclose, where is our open transparent government?
What if an Iranian drone was flying around Pittsburgh? Or Atlanta? or Langley? How would we know if it's unarmed or not?
How long would it last? How come the jet planes couldn't catch up" to this propeller driven drone? There is something fishy about this story. Blaming Obama for not responding when someone shoots at a spy plane is pretty idiotic.
lol how dare iran defend it's sovereignty from a foreign spy drone! can you imagine the response if iranian warcraft were over NYC?
Did you read the story? The incident took place more than 12 NM from the Iranian coast. That's international airspace over international waters. Please try to be at least moderately informed before you post.
I find it very sad that so few people are concerned that the government withheld this information until the elections were over. How much else are they hiding? We know they are still looking for a fall guy for Libya
Yeah... we want to know about the aliens they got stashed at Area-51
What they're in Gitmo...OK... nevermind! 
Iran's best jet fighter pilots shoot at a slow moving drone and can't hit it? The only thing worse is if the drone returned fire and took them both out with only two shots.
Obviously, they had no intention of shooting it down. They acted to prevent it entering Iranian airspace, and apparently they succeeded in that.
Remember the last debate? Mitt does not even know Iran has a coast. Don't expect any president to tell us every military incident as soon as it happens. That's his and the military's job to handle it, not ours. Just thank your lucky stars we have a president that at least knows where Iran is.
Too bad the President didn't know Pennsylvania is not in the midwest. Oh yeah, didn't catch that one during the last debate did ya?
false flags and false reports
I find it sad that very few posters are concerned that this information was withheld till the election was over.
Hey, as long as they get their government check on the 1st, it's all the same to them
Who cares?? What difference would it make? None whatsoever. If President Obama would have allowed it to be releasedhe would gave been blamed for trying to instill fear in the American public as bush did during his election. I don't think it should have been released at all. Its a SECRET surveillance mission. & I dont believe most civilians have that security clearance
Iran has jets?
We have some very stupid psychos in our government if they actually believe a military strike on another country is justified because they shot at one of our spy drones. If one human being is lost in a retaliatory military strike I would vote to convict whoever gave the damn order guilty of crimes against humanity.
This was TOTALLY expected...Romney looses the election... dual Israeli agent and Romney Supporter Mel Sembler and Sheldon Adelson loose their opportunity to launch Gulf War III...and CNN (pretending to be a news organization) immediately begins broadcasting propaganda on behalf of Israel. Look at it this way...if Iran attempted to fly a drone armed or otherwise over any Western power...we would definitely shoot it down... so why are you having a problem with this? If Iran was Florida, they could cite the "stand your ground" law....if you don't want to get shot at..then don't fly your spy aircraft within gun range...even the Rednecks in Alabama have been know to shoot at U.S. military helicopters who like to buzz their cattle for sport...CNN please evolve or get out of the news business and join up with Fox Noise propaganda channel...
Do you know the difference in meaning between loose and lose?
Wow, before posting here please do some research. What part of "international airspace" do you not understand? The drone was in the Persian Gulf. Iran does not own the Persian Gulf and was closer to our ally Kuwait, not Iran. We have every right to fly aircraft in that region to observe shipping lanes, which is exactly what we were doing.
Iran's best fighter pilots shoot at a slow moving drone and can't hit it? It's a good thing the drone wasn't shooting back.
whites vent. Its oK cause u lost. LOL – Pres Obama is the man. suckas.
Martin Luther King will slap your face if he was alive. Obama is black but blacks only stand with the truth. A true black will accept if Obama was wrong. Who the sucka taught you this ignorance?
Dont make it racial saliera, Whites voted for Obama also, I dif
I wish it had been racial because if 93% of whites had voted for Romney like 93% blacks voted for Ob we would have a new president. Talk about what race is racial. I think it is clear.
America lost, I feel sorry for your lack of intelligence.
I voted for Obama and I'm a white male....
Most of you are missing the point. Once again incredible information was hidden by Obama and the media.Yes we have been attacked before but never before has there been a willfully intent to mislead an entire country. All this for politically calculated gain. And no one questions it. I don't want to live like Russians or Chinese.
I can't believe you said that. "Never before has there been a willful attempt to mislead and entire country"
Dude, it has happened prior to almost every war we have ever been involved in. Don't you remember even as far back as Iraq?
I am offering every Democrat a Tin Foil hat with Obama TV antenna with in built headphone and a pair of 'Blame George Bush' wrist bands. The PRO version of the Tin Foil hat has an electric shock sensor which will remove all the truth by transmitting electric signals into the brain and kicking the truth away from your brain. The pro version costs 5$ because we have taxed a carbon tax on it because it uses electricity. We expect you to live in caves and be environment friendly.
Since its Christmas, we are offering our warm 'WINTER FESTIVAL GREETING' card with a $1000 dollar stimulus money from our printers in the Federal Reserve to you as well. If we say "MERRY CHRISTMAS", it will offend the muslims. The President sends his apologies and we are working on an upgraded version of electric sensors that will stimulate your brains to be a muslim.
I wonder how many of the comments here are the product of the US military's social media project designed to spread pro-American propaganda? Would be interesting if they released exactly the number of military service personnel and number of fake online accounts they have operating on the major news sites.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks
(Link to an older article about this sort of "sock-puppetry)
You're a nut job. Forgot to take your medicine today?
Thanks god we have a president with a brain and who is not quick to the draw with other peoples son's.
Presdent Obama is da man,,, Whites u lost. LOL suckas
Yeah more free health care, cash, cell phones, etc..... for the people who refuse to try and better themselves. Just be lazy ass like you always have been and the whites will take care of you.
A typical democratic racists.
Youre DUMB beyond belief. Blacks voted for Obama cuz hes black, not cuz he has good policies or even a good record. If Hitler was black yall would vote for him too. Obama thinks hes helping but in reality hes making life for minorities sooo much worse. Minority unemployment is the highest its been in over 30 yrs under Obama. But you dont care cuz ure dumb. You think youre exacting justice by electing a half black president, but the sad thing is youre hurting ureselves and everyone else even more. By the way, before you start taking jabs at white people, just remember that whites, specifically Western Europeans, developed the modern society you feed off of. White people invented and discovered the overwhelming majority of technologies and social structures you cherish, i.e. modern medicine, rule of law, cars, planes, trains, computers, power stations, etc.. Pretty much everything you couldnt live without. Black ppl always complain about being held back and that because of colonialism they werent able to advance as a society. Black ppl had atleast a 3000 yr head start with civilization and yet by the 20th century youre still running around in loin clothes toting spears and living in filth. Be more appreciative for what has been granted to you: a civilized, modern life.
Yeah we lost the election, but I am still rich and you are just left with your homies and purple drank.
Republican refusal to work across the aisle is what brought Rome down.
I'm sure we have already crossed our Rubicon.
No it wasn't. Rome fell because they could not afford to keep giving non-producing citizens free food and entertainment. Sound familiar?
"it doesn't matter, they fired on us."
Someone, anyone, please slap this 'official.'
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/21/world/asia/south-korea-warning-shots/
You can be sure of one thing... If Mitt Romney was elected, we'd be at War with Iran "on day 1" .... nothing fires up the GOP more than sending us out to fight a war in the middle East..... last 2 Republican Presidents, 3 Middle Eastern Wars... last 2 Democrats, uh... nothin... some peacekeeping missions to stop genocide, that's about it.
Nope.
Two things are certain had Mitt been elected:
1) The market would be soaring, not tanking as it is under Obama.
2) Obama care would be repealed...
4 more years of econominc misery....Thanks Obama!!
I thought you Repubs learned your lesson the other night, American's are smarter than you thought... Just because Wall Street isn't getting the regulations they want repealed so they can create another bubble doesn't mean the economy is hurting, I would figure you GOPer's would know by now, the Market's daily back and forth doesn't change anything... It's only when creeps like your last President tank the entire economy that it matters. Oh and by the way, Since JFK was inagurated, 46 million jobs have been created under Democrat Administrations in that same time period, Republican Administrations have netted only 28 million jobs... So don't give me that crap about Repubs knowing the economy, they literally aren't half as good as Dems at creating jobs.
No way that would happen. But the information was hidden from the American public until after the election. Get used to this. Big Brother will just tell you what He feels you should be told.
Sorrt, wasn't first on CNN, unless you mean "the first time we are running it"... knew abuot this hours before you published thanks to FOX
"The Obama administration did not disclose the incident, which occurred just days before the presidential election on November 1, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN." NOW THERE'S A SHOCKER, IT DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.
First Obama is criticized because too many leaks are coming out during his administration, now he is criticized because the leaks are too few and too slow. Again, the guy cannot win.
But he did win!
I'm we didn't have a right wing nut case like you in office or we'd be going to war over an unmanned surveillance drone. We can't afford your kind of stupidity.
It is Bush's fault.
4400 dead americans in iraq, destoyed a country, destablized a region, increased irans sphere of influence, thanks bush
Touche'. God help us. F-ing O didn't respond?
Iran is not like Iraq or Afghanistan. It just like playing with the fire!
And rather than end it as promised, Obama continued it.
It's not easy to believe that the drone was out there simply on a picnic and what would Americans expect US government to do if an Iranian drone was 16 miles off NY coast? Secondly, what the Iranian government did is more or less a regime act of propaganda to pacify their hard liners if they want to have negotiations on the nuclear issue to lift the sanctions which have brought down the economy otherwise I think they could have brought it down easily.
And Iran missed. LOL perhaps tehy should of sent a flying boat up to take a look at it. How pathetic iran really is.
Su-25's are not "fighters", they are ground attack aircraft.
it has rails attached for vympel r-60 air to air missiles
Probably a false flag attack by the CIA......
OBAMA = HUGO CHAVEZ = They both control and manipulate the media all the time and brain wash the people.
We as americans purchase more oil from hugo than the middle east.
It is because Oil is rare in this world. There is no other country with oil near us than Venezuela. If you want, you can walk to work or buy a horse.
When the U.S. attacks Iran (or assists in attacks) it is merely called pre-emptive security or some other random, retarded response. When Iran attacks the U.S. it's called an act of war. Love the double standard.
SO FAR,
THE US has never attacked IRAN. Get your facts right.
I think it's about time
Ya except for that missile strike on that civilian airliner in the 80's. Your an idiot chris and you can hope all day but its human nature to kill eachother its what we do.
Our CIA overthrew thier democratically elected government in 1953. We armed Iraq to fight them.
Iran couldn't evern beat Iraq in their war.....do you think wea re concerned about Iran?......Obviously none of you have been in the military, because you would be surprised as to the things that are not reported to the public.......All you need do ge a life.
Ha Ha HA ha
Obama's weakness is the cause of this attack...there are probably more we do not know about.
Any strong President would have responded in an hour.
WEAK LIBS–HAVE A NICE DAY
Like GWB? hahahah, funny stuff!
You're right about that. He heard about it long before us. However, he wouldn't respond too quickly unless he knew for sure the pilot of the fighter wasn't one of his distant relatives. Barack Hussein Obama.
any other president would have made an aggressive response.as far as i am concerned obama is a coward..if he keeps increasing handouts someone is gonna hand him walkin papers sooner than later
Come on people. The U.S. spends more money on military and intelligence than the entire rest of the world put together. Iran is in the stone age militarily compared to the U.S. I think that drone was somewhere it shouldnt have been before the Iranian jets were told to go after it. It wouldnt surprise me if the drone was armed when it took off. all speculation though. Remember Iran hasnt invaded anyone in over 50+ years but the U.S. seems to wanna invade everyone.
Yes, You are right...AMERICA IS ALWAYS THE GUILTY PARTY
THINK ABOUT HOW THEY DESTROYED ENGLAND AND FRANCE IN WWII. THEY EVEN KILLED THE NICE HITLER-YOU LIBS FAVORITE PERSON BESIDES CASTRO.
THE BAD AMERICANS REALLY MAKE YOU MAD AND IRAN IS A VERY PEACEFUL COUNTRY–JUST LISTEN TO AHKMA-PORK-A-JAD TALK SO NICE ABOUT OUR GREATEST ALLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
OBAMA IS A REALLY GREAT WARRIOR–HE HAS BEEN SINCE
HIS CHOOM GANG YEARS.
YAH
What is a choom wagon???
Hey Chris, if you don't like how his country handles security and military affairs, you are more than welcome to move to Iran. I am sure they won't have any problems with you publicly voicing your concerns over how how they handle things
Obama owns the media.
AND THE MEDIA OWNS HIM–BECAUSE THEY ALL HATE AMERICAN VALUES
If the jets were outside their own borders that America had been hit by a missile
Presedent Obama is the man,,, Whites lost. LOL suckas
Obama's mother is White....so sorry about your low IQ
President Obama is a white man. You may want to do a bit of reading sometime.
Please learn to spell before posting a message. Thank-you.
"The officials declined to be identified because of sensitive intelligence matters surrounding the matter." Then maybe you should be Patriotic Americans and not publish things about "sensitive intelligence matters". Or you could be journailists. Oh wait, never mind. You'll be neither.
TIme to see why Romney lost the election. Put your seat belts on.
The Media is going to defend Obama again and side with Obama and brain wash American people into believing that Iranians sent over Christmas presents instead of attacking the Drones. Or perhaps 'Iranians attacked the Drones because George Bush was piloting the Drone' 'The Iranians were just joking around with us'
Obama, the great warrior (snicker, snicker, snicker) will do nothing except ask the Iranians and Muslims to be please be peaceful.
Stop being angry that your candidate lost. Mittens would have done...nothing.
He hasn't done anything any other time. Time will prove me correct.
Israel will eliminate Iran while Obama leads from behind
What if an un armed Iranian drone was buzzing around Pittsburgh? Or Atlanta? Or Langley? How long would it last? How would the people of Iran know whether it was unarmed or not? How could jet planes "not catch up" to a propeller driven drone? There's something fishy about this story.
"The Obama administration did not disclose the incident, which occurred just days before the presidential election on November 1, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN". I'm just wondering if CNN sat on the story also till after the elections (Just wondering).
Of course they did.
The media is in the barrel with zero
Don't worry, Obama will apologize to Iran.
He will probably send them money to cover the cost of jet fuel that they used!
Is Obama planning another apology tour or is the first one still running.
First person who thinks the US would not shoot an Iranian drone (in international air space) that was flying off our coast, raise your hand.
Exactly, we'd have shot it down.
That's a rediculous comment. We're talking about international waters. During the cold war, there were Russian nuclear subs 2 miles off the coast of Florida. Anyone who took a Carnival cruise at that time remembers. You could see them plain as day. We never shot at them.
If the drone was in international airspace then the Iranian jets would be in international airspace. This is fishy.
Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods. The US has manufactured threats before. Don't expect the government to NOT do it again.
TIme to see why Romney lost the election. Put your seat belts on.
The Media is going to defend Obama again and side with Obama and brain wash American people into believing that Iranians sent over Christmas presents instead of attacking the Drones.
The contiguous zone – "The contiguous zone is a band of water extending from the outer edge of the territorial sea to up to 24 nautical miles (44 km; 28 mi) from the baseline, within which a state can exert limited control for the purpose of preventing or punishing "infringement of its customs, fiscal, immigration or sanitary laws and regulations within its territory or territorial sea". This will typically be 12 nautical miles (22 km; 14 mi) wide, but could be more (if a state has chosen to claim a territorial sea of less than 12 nautical miles), or less, if it would otherwise overlap another state's contiguous zone. However, unlike the territorial sea there is no standard rule for resolving such conflicts, and the states in question must negotiate their own compromise. The United States invoked a contiguous zone out to 24 nmi on 24 September 1999."
In my opinion, espionage would certainly come under 'infringement of customs'. No nation would, or even should, permit such blatant surveillance.
I love how no one else can have nuclear anything but last time i checked u s a was the only nation to ever use one out of hatred and we did it twice. On women and children not even military targets. Im ashamed to be an american.
You have a Iranian ip address though.
Zing!
Not that anyone here will pay attention to it.
Your all retards you cant just move anywhere everywhere has immigration laws you idiots and unlike the good ole usa they enforce them. I wish there was a way to opt out and never see another piece of human trash ever again but the only way is death and im waaaaay to cool for that so all you leeches just kill yourselves i would greatly appreciate it and if you all want to by me a ticket ill take one to norway just let me wade through the sea of turd colored people to get to the airport.
Then get out.
FUC%$#$@#@YOU!
Really? Iran signed the treaty and could back out of it but don't they instead continue to violate it's rule. Your're about a stupid F.
We all have a choice where we live, make yours. A little study of WW11 history will show you many lives were saved by the bombing, warnings were made and ignored
If you hate it that bad move out.
Leave then! Oh wait I bet you are sucking us dry on social programs other countries you like wouldn't provide. If you are truly ashamed leave- I swear right now, I'll pay for your one way ticket.
Good then move to Iran and denounce citizenship. I would doubt you did that, so I will just state the obvious You are a Loser!!!
What is hilarious is they MISSED.. TWO of them! HA HA HA what a bunch of losers, couldnt give them any easier of a target
Two jets couldn't hit a drone? So much for the mighty Iranian military. Even Israel can shoot down a drone.
Get used to it. The mid-east knows Obama won't do anything.
Wondering how long until Israel stops Iran.
Wow, another slave to the media. We wouldn't care less about israel or iran if it wasn't for all the jewish money flowing into our political coffers.
If the Iranians had shot at an Israeli drone there would be all out war right now... It's only a matter of time before we start shooting back...
Obama won't respond. He wants to be their friends so they will become peaceful and friendly towards us.
After finally getting out of Iraq and nearing the end of the Afghanistan fiasco, it's hard to believe there are Americans that still lust for another war in Iran. Make sure you enlist so you can get a good view.
Sorry, the messiah is too busy patting himself on the back after his recrowning!
Your party picked a loser. Get over it.
Another act of war against this once great country that will be ignored by the Organizer!
If Isreali military killing an unarmed American civilian in International waters wasn't an act of war, how is Iran firing warning shots at an American drone 4 miles from thier shore an act of war?
My friend, Israeli never attacked any US citizen in International waters. Iranians on the other hand, did attack the Drones.
I call BS, Chris. There was a kid on board the Mavi Marmara, in international waters, that was executed by the IDF. He was an American citizen.
Why would this event or the so-called supression of it being in the news change the way you would have voted? c'mon man. There are far more important issues at home and hundreds of encounters like this you will never read about. learn history before accusing the President of having committed treason..or learn what treason is first. p.s moving to colorado
Maybe because we Americans like free press. Why should anyone be happy that the government suppressed information until after an election? That doesn't bother you? If George Bush did it, would it bother you? Please be honest.
im betting our president will apologize to Iran for our drone flying around up there, causing their pilots to waste ammunition .
When we take people out with drones it's "just short of war", (Quote from CNN's Erin Burnett), but if the latest boogieman shoots at our robot, oh, hell no, beat the war drums!!! Wake up people.!
They are sending a message to Obama....loud and clear. Lets see how much guts does Obama have?
Like when China forced one of out planes down and that aircraft had a crew. GW did...... nothing.
You sure are a whining snotty little biotch aren't you there zomer. Your day is coming sooner than you think.
Don't worry – i am sure our president will apologize to the Iranians for us.. .:-(
hahaha! Steve – your comment about the president apologizing made me smile for the first time this week
So much for Iran "playing nice".
and our reaction, go hide under thr covers
More war is just what we need while the economy is in a death spiral. The neocons are instigating this and trying to suck Iran into war by flying drones over and near their border so they will retaliate. Then they can dupe the amerikan people once again. The sad thing is that they will probably get away with it – again. If Amerikans would just have the sense to learn what is going on and study history a bit, they would never allow this. The fascist globalists are trying to entrap Iran and here we go again.
Neocon's like Obama and the people he's surrounded himself with, right? Oh wait, you can't blame everything on people you don't like, can you?
Stop trolling James. Only a troll will misspell American with a k.
or an Obama fan, I take it you never saw the tv series.
james....you thought process is"so lacking" it doesn't even warrant a response!!
A lot of megaphonies here?
You have to wonder, if the Iranians shot down a US figher jet in international air space, and killed the pilot, on Nov. 1st, and only the military knew about it, would Obama have allowed that information to go public? Based on his record, I would guess no, he would have held that information until after the election or maybe indefinitely.
Dude, get a life. We had an intel plane brought down China, on Bush watch, what do you have to say about that?????
hilarious how misguided these people are
hilarious how people are still obsessed with W.
with Candy's help.
Obama's people kept it hidden – because Obama doesn't have the guts to stand up to Iran. And the ayatollahs know it.
Hidden like the WMD in Iraq?
Obama is still there looking for them. By the way, recently Syrian ambassador said he will use WMD's against the rebels. I remember a former Iraqi General saying that Saddam shipped the WMD's to Syria during the Iraq Liberation.
Libtards assume if you don't like Pres Islama then you love W. Haha, too brainwashed to realize they are the same guy. W=spent $ like Chuckie Sheen on a 20 yr bender and lied about Iraq/WMD's
Pres Islama=spent $ like Chuckie AND Andy Dick on a 20 yr bender, lied about Benghazi
This gets more coverage than Israels murder of an American teenager in International Waters?
Israel has also attcked at least one US warship in the past.
The distant past. BTW, your "Mittens...rock" remark misses by a mile, and shows how intellectually bereft you are.
It happened in June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. Israel had to fight Egypt, Syria, Jordan ,Arab Expeditionary Forces, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Kuwait, Tunisia and Sudan.
Israeli military mistook a US ship as an Egyptian ship. Most of the Israeli soldiers came from Europe and around the world and they accidentally fired on the US ship. Investigations on both sides have shown that it was a mistake.
In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 (US$22.2 million in 2012) as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the final U.S. bill of $17,132,709 for material damage to the Liberty itself plus 13 years' interest.
The Iranians attacked the Drones on purpose. They know that Obama won't respond and that Obama is weak on foreign policy.
The USS Liberty. And that wasn't an act of war? We certainly are selective on who we want to commit acts of war against us. I suppose our drones killing children in other countries aren't considered acts of war either, at least not by neo-con zionist warmongers and thier brainwashed stooges.
Liberalism is truly a mental disorder forced on students in most American schools!
????????? The landing of a UFO in Times Square didn't get much coverage either!
UFO nah that was mittens getting back under his rock.
The reason it does Mohammed is because you are spreading lies. You people are so vile you tell lies about a democracy in the middle east hoping people will believe you.
This reminds me of IR Flight 655 when the Pentagon said the USS Vincennes was in international waters, but it wasn't. It was in Iranian waters. The Pentagon then said the commericial airline transponder was turned off, but it wasn't. Then it said the plane was descending when the black box proved it was climbing steeply. Then it said the airplane was outside the commercial corridor when the black box proved it wasn't. Then the US killed 290 Iranians, many of them women and children as it blasted a commerical airliner out of the sky. Then, they gave the commander of the ship a medal and a promotion for slaughtering innocent civilians. This is my own government and I hope if it wages war on Iran it destroyes itself. I am ashamed at my government and there will only be justice when people like Bush and Obama stand trial for war crimes.
An American with both a memory and a conscience. Rare breed.
Just like the wasted time, money and lives in iraq. Many of thses red state hicks live in a state of denial
Don't we still have troops there? Also troops in Afghanistan? Pretty sure Obummer said we'd be out of there by now.
f your mutha
The Vincennes didn't just fire on the airliner out of the blue. Earlier that day, the V was south of where they had contact with the airliner. Iranian gunboats were harrassing (provoking or testing them – use what you will) for hours. Vincennes had some engineering issues, one CIWS mount down and possibly a radar issue. Vincennes traveled north out of the gunboat's operating area. So the Vincennes was still at a state of readiness although their systems were degraded. The airliner wasn't broadcasting a IFF signal. Their CO tried to make contact with the airliner a few times with no response. He acted with the information available; which was very very little.
During the Vietnam war there was a popular bumper sticker "America love it or leave it. If you are ashamed of your country get out.
No country is perfect but I will be a loyal American until the day I die and I thank God for the freedoms that living in this nation affords me.
You want to be ruled move to Cuba or China.
This is what America wanted when they voted for Obama!!! do you think iran would ever have the guts to do this with a real leader?? and its funny how this wasn't released until 3 days later.. 1st Obama covers up a terrorist attack in libya which killed one who represents us and all our states! the he covers up about this. im suuure 100% sure Obama called iran to apologize. PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES THIS IS WAR! THINK ABOUT IT.. WHEN ANOTHER NATION STRIKES AMMUNITION AT ANOTHER NATION THAT IS CALLED WAR. WHERE IS OBAMA???
Iraq , the war for nothing, that went nowhere...
Why do you keep "talking" as if we aren't there anymore? You F ing retard, it isn't over, were still there.
Dude, get a life. We had an intel plane brought down China, on Bush watch, what do you have to say about that???
Obama is where he needs to be, The United States Of America. You have no right being on our Land. You whites in America are so stupid and Ignorant. The Only Thing that "White people has done is cause havoc and destruction through out the world. funny thing is, you whites have used propaganda and false accusation to lie to the american people. There is no need to take this country back, because it hasn't gone anywhere ... except forward ... toward a more perfect union where the "All-American look" is getting a little bit harder to define. If you love your country so much, why are you in Iran? Money, Power, Control, but no Respect!!!!!
IRani sounds like most of the liberals on here. That's weird.
Hey Jay does it take "guts" to start a war because our spy plane got shot at? Or….maybe it would be stupidity.
This must be the new holographic drone that projects a virtual image of itself away from the actual drone. The Iranians must have been firing at that. Guess its working.
The Drone was the act of war lady!
America is no longer the good guy. Hasn't everyone figured that out yet?
In international waters it was not an act of war for the US but not the Iranians. And if Iranian pilots cannot hit a slow moving drone, the Israelis have nothing to worry about.
I wonder how the US military would respond if Iran was flying drones in international waters off the north eastern coast of the USA?
The same,up to a point...I think we might splash the damn thing ...
The drone was in international airspace bonehead.
Something tells me the Communist News Network (CNN) already knew about this, but intentionally covered it up until AFTER the election.
Funny your here trolling the communist news network. get out of the closet, we know you like it.
OHHHHH-k...couldn't bring down an unmanned oversized RC toy plane? Geez, what'll they do if somebody shoots back?
Iran want's WAR look how close they put their country to U.S. military Bases !!!
I know!
And who the heck put all of our oil under their sand?
Now THAT'S FUNNY...... hahahahahahahahah....
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Send them all to meet allah baba and we won't have to worry about them anymore. Its coming. Once we get a man in the office of the presidency and not a eunich
Your husband is running for president! Great news!
next nobama will apologize
'Fresh concerns'??? I'm concernded the President didn't tell us! Always the liar!
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/11/20121182048162355.html
Here is the link to a much more informative article not paid for and edited by the US Govt (see: Amber Lyon).
Isn't it sad that Americans believe RT and aljazeera have honest journalists. This should waken up the MSM.
Whens the last time any of our media questioned the propaganda handed to them by the government?
Can anyone compare that with the following historical fact?
Tehran, July 3 – On the morning of 3rd of July 1988, an Iran Air airbus passenger plane, flight number 655, took off from the port city of Bandar Abbas for a routine thrice a week flight to Dubai across the Persian Gulf with 290 passengers on board inclu ding 160 men, 73 women and 57 children.
It was cruising unsuspecting of the dangers that lurked below. While it was still in Iranian airspace, unknown to it, an American warship had stealthily entered Iranian coastal waters. At 10.22 AM, exactly five minutes after flight's departure from Band ar Abbas, the Commander of USS Vincennes, Captain Will Rogers ordered the firing of two missiles at the Iranian passenger.
The plane immediately exploded in mid air, splintered and crashed into the waters of the Persian Gulf. There were no survivors. All 290 passengers went to a watery grave. Among the victims of the American crime against humanity, 37 passengers were non-I ranians and were nationals of Italy, Yugoslavia, Pakistan, India and some Persian Gulf Arab states.
I can not compare to it. A life is a life. That was 1988 and this is this week.
If you want "historical fact", then, describe what the Vincennes went through prior to launching two missles. The real challenge will be to describe that with out the emotionally biased language.
NOW THE REST OF THE STORY...
According to Captain Rogers, they were being attacked by eight Iranian gun boats. Vincennes was defending themselves from this attack when the plane was shot at with two standard missiles. Crucially, the Vincennes misidentified the Iranian Airbus as an attacking F-14 Tomcat fighter aircraft. A radio warning had been sent to the aircraft on the international air distress frequency.
When they looked at it .. it felt like its coming right at them. they felt scared.. didnt know what to do..started pushing butttons lots of buttons.
Y'all loved 9/11 that much that you want them to attack again? Ok, then go ahead and start another war, but you may wish to postpone that new World Trade Center, cause it's coming down again.
Iran is a key player that we need to negotiate and work with. They are a very westernized nation, surrounded by Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and all sorts of unstable governments.
Maybe we should stop sending our drones into their country each day. They don't come into our country.
Good logic. Negotiate with a nation that has proven to be provocative and aggressive in the region, out of fear of being victim to another terrorist attack on domestic soil.
RULE #1, we don't negotiate with terrorists.
The hell we don't. I thought Israel was our ally.
I will make you a deal you take all the Muslimes out of the US, and we won't send any drones over your country. But we can't control what other countries do.
International airspace is where they fired on the drone, try to keep up.
Nice how CNN is so quick to post this only because team Obama released it AFTER the election
FIRST ON CNN: Iranian jets fire on U.S. drone
uh this was on fox about 2 hours ago
OOH!!! The holy officials in pentagon says this, We must trust them!! we must not question them!! we must wage war to iran. STFU idiots! If any drones fly 16 miles to america, we would have shot it down.
Glad I wasn't raised weak and pathetic like you.
It's so easy to tell your not an American it's humorous. So please don't try to deceive people, thanks.
You have lost the point Chris.. it is not the fact we would of shot their drone down.. it is the fact it was not even discussed till AFTER the election.. an increasingly Angry Iran.. would not have fit Obama's campaign strategy. So why not manipulate the American public to believe otherwise.. it worked with Bengazi why not here? Scarey.
We can all rest assured that Obama called Achmadinejad to fervently apologize for the U.S. being in International airspace.
I call him Acho-mind-ajar...
Someone attacks an American or American property. Obama covers up. This is getting to be old hat. What is scary is this coverup was so obviously because of the election and yet the mainstream media appears set to give it a pass. If you ask me covering up terrorist attacks and attacks against America is far worse than Watergate. In its worst light you could classify it as treasonous and at a minimum a denial of important information to voters. Glad you mentioned it CNN but my gut tells me that is all you will do. It will be swept from the front page in a short time and likely never discussed again. Journalism is in such a sad state.
it wasn't covered up. you just don't understand how these situations work.
HOW? HOW can you call the SAVIOR OF OUR COUNTRY; our Blessed Leader obama a traitor?
Shame, shame, shame. Everbody knows yer name...
Hmmm lets see.... GW buch let 4400 americans die in iraq for nothing this is what you complain about....
Last week?? Why were we not told???? Treasonous.
you don't have a need to know.
Of COURSE not! We just have a need to blindly vote for obama. Just because he is a weak-kneed, sniveling, bowing, TRAITOR must not be allowed to be an impediment to our devotions...
Comments not pre-screened before they are posted? Where is the one I try to post? Perhaps it would be a good idea to re-write the clause below.
Not to worry Odumbo will apologize for the intrusion.
...and send them several hundred billion us dollars too.
An' mebe th' haid of a Republican INFIDEL!
Well at least we got some intelligence out of this encounter. Iranian pilots suck, but I guess we already knew that.
They fired twice at a slow moving target and missed? I don't think Israel has that much to worry about when they attack them.
It's not their pilots or air force, in general, that Israel is worried about. It's their long-range missile capabilities. Israel's AF (IAF) is by far the greatest air power in the region (ask Syria and Egypt), but even the Iron Shield missile defense system would have some trouble if missiles and mortars were falling from Gaza, Iran, and Southern Lebanon at the same time. They would have to completely wipe out Iran's return fire capabilities before possibly trying to knock out the nuclear facilities. That way, the could try to handle Gaza and Lebanon by themselves while Iran took its time regrouping.
They may have intended to miss and were just mavericks having fun. But you're right if they actually wanted to hit it and missed they SUCK as pilots. The thing to remember though is that they don't have the economy to support the amount of training that the US does. So it's not the pilot's fault.
Actually, it is hard for a 500mph fighter to hit a very slow moving airplane with aimed cannon fire because the performance envelopes of the planes are so much different. In WWII, piper cub observation spotter & liason planes usually escaped attack by 300+mph fighers by changing direction and flying low and slow.