Panetta on Benghazi attack: 'Could not put forces at risk'
A protester reacts as the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi burns.
October 26th, 2012
01:28 AM ET

Panetta on Benghazi attack: 'Could not put forces at risk'

By Chris Lawrence

The U.S. military did not get involved during the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, last month because officials did not have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said Thursday.

At a Pentagon news briefing, Panetta said there was no "real-time information" to be able to act on, even though the U.S. military was prepared to do so.

"You don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on," Panetta said. "(We) felt we could not put forces at risk in that situation."

A defense official provided more context on Panetta's comments about the decision-making involved in not sending U.S. troops to the consulate being attacked in Benghazi.

He said there was a drone aloft but not directly over the area at the time the attack began.

He said the drone was redirected and arrived in time to record some of the attack. But he described what the drone saw as "looking down, seeing a bunch of buildings and fires, a lot of chaos on the ground."

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He said it was not enough to discern exactly what was happening.

"We didn't have good eyes on the situation. There were security forces there on the ground, but they're in the middle of a firefight - not sending a Sitrep (Situational Report).

The official could not reveal the specific reaction times for the military's Fleet Anti Terrorism Security Teams, which are classified, but said "it would be physically impossible for them to get there in time to intervene in that attack from say, Rota, Spain."

He cited the time it takes just to get their transportation in the air. The official said "these situations normally deteriorate over time ... but usually in a few days, not two hours." He explained that even quick-reaction teams are often positioned for places where intelligence shows a "deteriorating situation" near an embassy.

The official also provided context for Panetta's and Gen. Martin Dempsey's remarks about criticism on the response.

"It's not helpful to provide partial answers," Dempsey said. And Panetta criticized what he called "Monday morning quarterbacking."

The defense official said it was directed at criticism coming from pundits and Capitol Hill.

"In perfect hindsight, yes - we'd do it differently. But how it looks weeks later is not how it looked at the time.

"You had the movie, the 9/11 anniversary and unrest in various countries in that region. All that factored into the decision to put troops on a heightened state of alert. But that doesn't mean forces are positioned everywhere in the world, ready to run to the rescue. We're not the fire department. And there was no actionable intelligence that Benghazi was going to be attacked on 9/11."

Next month, the Democratic-led Senate Intelligence Committee will hold a closed hearing in Washington to review the security situation and intelligence surrounding the Benghazi attack, according to a committee announcement released Thursday.

The hearing, not open to the public, will review intelligence collection and threat reporting in Libya and other Middle East countries before the September 11 attack on the U.S. mission as well as what was known and who is responsible for the attack, among other issues.

A number of government investigations continue into what happened on the attack.

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  1. Clinton

    I still fail to understand what people think is being covered up here and for what cause. What possibly gain could the Obama administration get for covering up what happened in Lybia? If they wanted the American public to believe the attack was over some video how would that help Obama? It would show that there's actually more widespread anti-American sentiment in Lybia than has been reported. I think it would be worse if it was spun to say this was caused by some video... Seriously Conservatives have gone so crazy they don't even come up with good conspiracy theories anymore. Crimes have motives don't they? Cover-ups should have motive. So could a republican leaning person please explain to me why the administration would want you to believe it was an attack over this video tape instead of an Al Quaida attack?

    October 26, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Reply
    • como1

      While this news source reports no real time review. Other media are reporting that White House watched in real time and that the 2 CIA/Ex Seals radioed frantically for help in hour 2 and hour 5 of the assault. That these 2 heros saved the lives of several US consulate employees by disobeying orders to "stand down". That they were killed just after being in contact with a rapid response team in Tripoli and told the team was not coming. That is the coverup in spades for your brain to absorb. Try the truth and not the liberal garbage you spout.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Reply
    • SickandTiredof being SickandTired

      That's an easy one so pay attention. Anderson Cooper should be doing this for you...he is the professional, but he is busy reporting on crazy carp.

      Obama Admin. sent weapons to Libya. These weapons were given to bad guys to defeat the air assets Ghaddafi had. After Ghaddafi was killed, the administration needed to police up these weapons because they are easily smuggled and are DEADLY to commercial airliners. The CIA was coordinating with Stevens in Benghazi because thats where all the al Qaida affiliates who had the weapons are. they were all working together. The exSeals with their EOD experience were destroying these weapons as they were being rounded up. Eastern Libya is an al Qaida hotbed. Some of these weapons are even traveling now to Syria.

      In short, it would look bad if it got out that we were in Libya trying to get back the weapons we sent because they ended up in the hands of our enemies especially if an airliner gets hit..... which is why the admin is reluctant to help the same groups who are now in Syria battling Assad.

      Now an excellent investigative reporter would do a good job investigating this, but there aren't any left at CNN.

      October 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Reply
      • Disgusted

        Well said!

        October 26, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
      • Clinton

        You really believe all that with no evidence? How do you people come up with this stuff? Who told you all of this happened? You really believe that this would be a black mark on the administration? The fact that Terrorists were able to get their hands on weapons used to oust ghadaffi? why would that be embarrassing? We are happy Ghadaffi is gone and Al Quaida is still a threat everywhere in the middle East, it would matter if they used US built weaponry? The same stuff is available to them from the Russians. Anti-Aircraft weaponry is all over the world, your theory is a joke.

        October 26, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
      • lila kelley

        OMG, you are right... I forgot about the weapons. But I knew there was something that made them sit on their hands. What a bunch of losers. I cannot believe they are running the country.

        October 27, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • como1

      I forgot to address you motive. Try incompetence and a White House so blinded by their ideological beliefs that everyone loves the words of the Sun King President that they would not possibly to what he says. Try screwup, try ineptness, try gross misconduct.

      October 26, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Reply
    • Disgusted

      This is not political. This is about incompetence, irresponsible risk and threat management, and borders on criminal negligence. I am not republican leaning- I am independent. The lens that you are looking at this through is a political one, which is why you are unable to see the mistakes made. Think of this in practical terms, in security terms, as though your son or daughter was one of those who were slain. How would you feel if you knew that there were three requests for backup that were rejected, requests that if accepted would have possibly saved the life of your son or daughter? Wouldn't you want to know why repeated requests for enhanced security were rejected in the weeks preceding the attack? The deflection towards a video story is a means of distracting from the disgraceful conduct of whomever was responsible for these security gaps and rejection of requests for help. If it was about a video, then you would never have to answer these questions because if the video story was to be believed, no one would ask them. Making this political dishonors the lives of those who were slain. The video story pack of lies was a political ploy, which dishonors them.

      October 26, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Reply
    • tommyVA

      Maybe you have been asleep or in a coma or something, but we are going through something called an election right now and Obama and his cronies and this administration are doing every thing they can to try and coverup for the foreign policy failures of Obama.They can't stand the thought of losing this election. He has repeatedly said that since he became president, our standing in the muslim world has never been better. He would lead us to believe that since he went around the world apologizing for past American sins that our relationships were much better. Libya throws everything that his critics were saying into his face. This magnifies the fact that he attended about 40% of his intelligence briefings and flew off to Vegas the next day instead of adressing the American people with the truth. This undermines any confidence that normal people have in the safety of our foreign officers and our military. His total disregard for telling the American people the truth and how it would be prevented in the future is unconscionable.

      October 26, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Reply
    • Chuck

      what's the motive for covering it up? the motive is politics and the election. The President looks like he isn't doing a good job protecting American's if a planned attack on 9/11 is carried out successfully. It looks like we don't have intelligence, or that we don't pay attention to our intelligence. If it can be described as a protest as a reaction to a video, and notice how quickly they flung that lie out there, then it doesn't look so bad for the President. I would bet the moon that if this had happened when Bush was in office it would have been, see, that's what we get because Bush is president and CNN would be all over this. I had to hunt through stories on CNN to even find this. They are burying it to protect Obama. You are correct that Fox will pursue this because it makes Obama look bad, but that goes back to your question and then too, provides your answer.

      October 26, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Reply
  2. tommyVA

    r network need to change their logo.

    "CNN, The Most Trusted Name In News"

    This is false advertising!!

    October 26, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Reply
    • tommyVA

      Should have read "Your network needs to change their logo"

      October 26, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Reply
    • Kevin

      CNN Reporters- where are you with this story?

      -The World Wonders

      October 26, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Reply
  3. Marsh hen

    So much for no man left behind. So sad. šŸ˜¦

    October 26, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Reply
  4. Aaron

    Benghazi...the final nail in the Obama Administration. Where was Obama when this was happening? Trying to save HIS butt because that is the only butt he gives a damn about.

    October 26, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Reply
    • Clinton

      except that Obama is still leading in most swing states and will likely win the election.... but no, go on dreaming... it's fine...

      October 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Reply
      • Aaron

        Not according to the REAL candidate has EVER lost the election when they had 50% or more in the Gallup poll at this point in the race. Ever. Do some actual research before you diarrhea from the mouth next time.

        October 26, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
      • lizzytalorburton

        Even if Obama wins, he is a loser, it wil only be voter fraud that puts him over the top. Everyone knows that now.
        The real Obama and the real Hillary Clinton have reared their ugly heads. God works in mysterious ways.

        October 28, 2012 at 12:38 am |
      • bhaskie357

        Clinton, get the media to release the truth about what happened on that night in Libya. Get Anderson Cooper, or Piers Morgan or Chris Matthews or Soledad O'brien to find out what really happened and then report on it. Maybe the mindless drones out there listening to the CommunityOrganizer News Network would then question the Chosen One. Maybe a light would come on in their dimmed eyes, and they might just say, "Wait a minute... Did that really happen?" See where the polls go then.

        But that is just a dream. We'll continue to hear reporting about politically incorrect Halloween costumes on the front page, and the drones will be none the wiser. Just the way Mr. Obama wants it.

        October 28, 2012 at 4:43 am |
  5. Nicholas

    The problem is we shouldn't have had these four men in harms way to begin with. They should have been removed from Libya until either we or Libya could provide adequate security.

    October 26, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Reply
    • Patrick

      They were there most likely working on covert missions for the CIA. It doesn't look like the CIA and the military were on the same page after the attack began.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Reply
      • single mom

        If Ambassador Stevens was CIA, he shouldn't have been appointed to the ambassadorship. That's against international law. However, it's looking more and more as if that might be the case.

        October 26, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
  6. jd

    Obama and his admin need to be investigated and tried.

    October 26, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Reply
  7. Patrick

    Can we get all these people in the same room instead of getting different stories from different people. It was a seven hour ordeal with constant contact with the SEALs on the ground. I think most people respect and trust Panetta. Was he aware that the SEALs on the roofs had laser trackers on enemy positions. Was he aware that the SEALs on the roof could offer command and control for military defensive strikes? It appears the CIA was in control of the operation most likely communicating with the State Department. Was anyone from defense analyzing the drones and communications? The Navy could have easily used the laser trackers to launch from on alert destroyers. The Air Force could have scrambled from Sicily.

    October 26, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Reply
    • Disgusted

      There was an Oval Office meeting at 5pm on 9/11 attended by BHO, Biden and Panetta. They would have had access to live feed from drones.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Reply
      • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

        Republicans want to claim the pro-troop mantle. They never pass up a photo app with our vets. But when it comes to actually supporting our troops, they're an abject failure. The often send our troops off to war without the propper armament and equipment and most of the times they never clearly define the mission or the end result as was the case in Iraq. But when our troops return home, republicans can't forget about them fast enough. In 2010 John Boehner and House republicans voted to cut the Veteran's bill but pull back on their proposal only when democrats threatened to go public with the proposed cuts. However, in their plan to reduce the federal budget deficit, House republicans eliminated $75 million in a program designed to help thousands of America's homeless veterans. That is sad because according to the Department of Veterans Affairs, in 2009 roughly 136,000 Veterans were homeless. Furthermore, the decision by House republicans to eliminate funding for our Veterans in hard times after they served our country in favor of deficit reduction to continue tax breaks for the rich is ludicrous and simply hearthwrenching. During his acceptance speech, Mitt Romnesia failed to acknowledge our veterans and even those currently laying down their lives in Afghanistan. When confronted on the issue after the convention, Romnesia said there was no need for him to go through a long laundry list in mentioning our troops. So just imagine our troops are now an expendible laundry list. Outrageous!

        October 26, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
      • Disgusted

        @ blah blah, this is not a political discourse. In the words of Charlie Woods, father of murdered hero Tyrone Woods, this is about honor, integrity and justice. Please choose another chat area for your political opinions. This is serious, please stick to the topic.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
      • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

        On the campaign trail a few months ago, Iraqi war Veteran and double amputee Tammy Duckworth's republican opponent Joe Walsh railed that Ms. Duckworth is no hero. Just imagine this veteran put her life on the line while serving her country, loosing both her legs in a illegitimate Iraqi war, and the only thanks and appreciation she gets from this republican troll is that she's no hero? This Veteran is crippled for life and that is how republicans feel about our Veterans? And if you though Mr. Walsh was done, a few days before the Democratic National Convention in North Carolina, Mr. Walsh stated that "the only debate Ms. Duckworth is interested in is what outfit she's going to wear at the convention." Do republicans have any heart and compassion whatsoever? A few months ago, Todd Akin was waging his gender war on women in redefining legitimate rape, then a few days another republican lunatic Richard Muordock was condoning rape and saying that pregnancy from rape was God's will and the outrageous attacks on our freedoms and values continue by these unpatriotic uncivilized republicans, yet there are Americans out there who are still supporting these pigs? Very very sad!

        October 26, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
      • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

        F.U. The lack of WMDs in an illegitimate Iraqi war that has cost us $3 trillion and taken over 4000 U.S. lives is also important as well as the Afghan war that was deliberately and recklessly abandoned and prolonged for the illegitimate invasion of Iraq. F.U.

        October 26, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
      • ILoveAmerica

        Ya blahblah, lets bring the Bush admin from 4 years ago into this...that will not help distract from obamas failure.....

        October 26, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
  8. bob

    the FOX article mentions that after about 4 hours the local US-friendly Libyan militia who were SUPPOSED to be providing security showed up.... too late.... so... there appears to have been some kind of agreement with this local militia and I suppose the admin can claim that they didn't want to have our forces go in and kill this friendly militia.... well... that seems to have been a TERRIBLE strategy... relying on local foreign militia to protect our ambassador?? I'm just trying to give the admin some benefit of doubt, but no matter how you look at this, it's terrible.... If you KNOW you've limited yourself by agreeing to use local militia, then why would you not order that ambassador and his staff out of there on 9/10 to go to a more secure and defensible location? ESPECIALLY when you've continually received requests for more security? Wait a minute... now, how is this possible? Our people ask for more security but they're told 'no' because a local militia is being relied on (and I wonder if they explicitly requested that the US NOT put more security there?...)... This is looking real bad...

    October 26, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Reply
    • bob

      The FOX story isn't very well written by the way and looks thrown together hastily. I can't but wonder how much of it is true, but given the seriousness of the issue, if any of it is made up or irresponsibly reported from shady 'sources' I would hope they would pay some consequence (or know that they would).

      October 26, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Reply
      • Disgusted

        Jennifer Griffin is a serious journalist and she is breaking news on this. Skepticism is fine, dig into it and do some research. I believe that there is a major scandal and cover-up.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
      • Marsh hen

        And if the story is true and verified. Then the liberal media should be held accountable for the complicitness in the cover up.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Steve

      Why in the world would you NOT get them out of harm way if you knew 3 days in advance there was going to be an attack on your embassy.

      NOBAMA 2012 We need someone that will protect our Ambassadors.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Reply
  9. John Geheran

    US Forces are put at risk every day. If we could risk US lives to get binLaden, saving American lives in Benghazi would be an acceptable risk. This administration is looking more lame with each passing news cycle.

    October 26, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Reply
  10. Non Liberal

    Panetta like the rest of the puppets will say and do what the CIC wants them too. Election time is to close.

    October 26, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Reply
    • jack

      This administration is a disgrace to America. These Americans were sacrificed in an attempt to save a failed president. Shame on you obama, surely you wouldn't even sacrifice even your election for this country.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Reply
  11. Disgusted

    White House oval office meeting attended by BHO, Biden, Secretary of Defense at 5pm on 9/11/12. Who made the call to not dispatch the many available assets? "This is not about politics, this is about honor, integrity and justice." Charlie Woods, father of Tyrone Woods. Woods disregarded stand down orders to go and save personnel at the consulate. He and Doughtery brought survivors back to the CIA annex, fought against mortar fire, and Woods died slumped over his machine gun fighting to the end. Charlie Woods just labeled those who issued stand down orders to both the Seals in Benghazi and Sigonella 'murderers of my son'. My heart is bleeding for this man, Woods and Dougherty are true American Heros, and they are being dishonored by the lies being told by the President and everyone around him. How's that for Commander in Chief, to leave those heros twisting in the wind? THE TRUTH MUST COME OUT!

    October 26, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Reply
    • NS Bingo

      The truth will come out! I saw the interview and it was heartbreaking to hear the anguish of the father.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Reply
  12. ILoveAmerica

    They had no actionable intelligence, but they had definite intelligence that this was all related to some video made months prior....they were so sure it was because of the video obama and hillary apologized to the muslim world for Americas free speech and spent 70 million in tax payers dollars on commercials apologing in the muslim world......dems/lefties, your defence and excuses dont hold water......

    October 26, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Reply
  13. Cam

    Mainstream media needs to come clean. The American people are hearing more Benghazi leaks and most of the mainstream media appears to be covering up for this administration. There is never was a good time for the media to be partisan but shielding the truth about Americans lives being lost and how it happened is terrible. The media needs to cut loose their fantasies about this president. The media is trying to wait the election out.

    October 26, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      What happened to the day that the media relentlessly asked questions until they got to the truth of the matter?

      October 26, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Reply
      • Disgusted

        Watch Fox- journalism is still alive!

        October 26, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Dustie

      If you look at the timeline of Obama/Clinton/Carney statements, it's clear that there is a cover-up. Obama says that they didn't want to be hasty in drawing any conclusions, so that's why they kept the "offensive video story" going even to the parents and love ones of those killed, and why they sent Susan Rice to the talk shows to say it was because of the video, just a "spontaneous attack". They knew better. There was an overhead drone showing the attack, there were pleas from the embassy for help and the staff says that the connection to the State Department was NEVER broken, and then there are the emails, cables, and ...the survivors who tell of begging for help and being told to "stand down". Oh, Panetta didn't want to put them at that is why the State Dept. and Obama put the embassy staff at risk? And the soldiers in Afghanistan? The lies are too numerous, but the corrupt mainstream media won't cover this. I bet about 50% of the American people are doing "bias checks" on those and turning to other reliable sources for accurate news. Ah, that would not be ABC, CNN or MSNBC. Total propaganda. Lies of omission.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Reply
    • Stop the lies

      It is absolutely time for the mainstream media to quit protecting this administration. Four precious lives are lost and CNN covers up the truth with stories about Obama's campaign tour. I'm sick.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Reply
    • NS Bingo

      You are absolutely correct. In the early days there was more information available on Al Jazeera's English web site. Pretty sad that NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN have purposely suppressed the news. People are starting to talk, the sand castles are starting to crumble....

      October 26, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Reply
  14. qularknoo

    on the one hand the administration states they had no evidence of terrorism .... or any other evidence to support definite conclusions ... so why did they jump so fast and so hard to blame the video? If they knew nothing ... then they should not have come to any conclusion until they had evidence. But we know the risk of terrorism is high and has been for decades ... so why did they try so hard to not even voice a consideration of terrorism and only jump to blame the video? Why?

    October 26, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Reply
    • Steve

      If they had no info then why would they get ready to scramble jets from Italy then. They knew they just dropped the ball.

      Romney/Ryan 2012

      October 26, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Reply
  15. obama

    Stand Down!!!! I need to get a haircut for my visit to Vegas to watch Beyonce....Stand down!!!

    October 26, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Reply
  16. ana

    I had to really search the CNN website for any mention of Libya!! It was buried in between all the rest of the useless news they report!! Biased for sure.

    Sad really that a news reporting agency is so one sided as to think we, as Americans, deserve to be lied to just to promote one person to remain president. Dictator is more like it. Are we becoming a communist nation????????????????

    October 26, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Reply
    • Clinton

      ana – CNN has had this as front page news for probably 3 weeks. You're trying too hard to make this into a cover-up situation and to try and demonize CNN who is pretty good at showing the viewpoints of both parties, if you're really that concerned about finding an unbiased news source, why don't you try PBS or BBC? They are the least bias news agencies. Fox is the right wing media that is allied with Republicans and MSNBC is allied with Democrats. Everybody else is in between. I do find it funny however, whenever a republican cries about media balance... since Fox news was the first to come out with a COMPLETELY right wing spun news agency.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Reply
      • Aaron

        If that is the case...where is the story about the Nobama admin telling the CIA to "STAND DOWN"???? How can you continue to support this joke of an administration. Romney is winning and WILL BE the next POTUS. BOOK IT!

        October 26, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
      • single mom

        Not quite – Lance Armstrong, World Series, and the Pakistani girl who was shot by the Taliban have been on the front page more than this.

        October 26, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
  17. TexasMom43

    A cold chill should run down the spine of every American, no matter race or denomination. We are in the bull's eye of the target by this criminal administration and the agencies supposed to be defending and protecting us.

    October 26, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
    • Hmmm....

      i worry for my kids under this administration – it's all about lying and how Obama expects us just to take it.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Reply
  18. Clinton

    What I can't understand about Romney and his supporters is, How can you support this man after he referred to 47% of Americans as "not responsible for their own lives". How do you support somebody that thinks that way? Everybody in here realizes that, that number includes our Men and Women in Uniform who have served this nation, Our Soldiers that have been wounded in the line of duty and our Senior citizens that PAID for their social security and medicare their entire lives in order to draw from it when they're older. Honestly, How do you vote for a man that believes that? It's not the rich that built this country, it was the poor and middle class who's blood sweat and tears built and defended this nation. It wasn't hedgefund managers and Bankers that stormed the beaches of Normandy, it was poor and middle class kids from every corner of America. That was the most disgraceful statement i've ever heard a politician say and whenever I hear a Republican try to explain it away, they just go blathering on about something they heard on Hannity or Limbaugh... It's rediculous.

    October 26, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
    • obama

      not quite.
      its people that didn't receive affirmative action and actually held jobs outside of community organizer and professor.

      oh, did i offend you?

      October 26, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Reply
      • Clinton

        Why would that offend me? I'm a white guy that works in I.T. and makes just over 100K at 30 years old... I'm doing fine... I've been employed full time since i was 18 years old and went to college... I've worked hard to get where I am and so did many of these folks that were labeled as "not taking responsibility for their lives" ... those folks he's talkin about include soldiers sailors and airmen... even military folks that are disabled, he's also talking about our seniors who worked their whole lives paying for social security, tell me how is that okay in your mind? ... how do you spin that so you don't have a problem with it?

        October 26, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
      • bhaskie357

        Well, I'm an I.T. guy just over 40 with a degree and several certifications, making only $65 a year (down by about $20 from what I was making 4 years ago) and in the last 4 years have been unemployed for 18 months (of which I RELENTLESSLY looked for a job), and underpaid for about another 24 months. I am NOT doing fine.

        No wonder you are such an Obamatron. You have no idea of the adversity that so many Americans have gone through over the past 4 years. Maybe if Obama is in for another 4 years, you'll lose your job, and find out what his failed policies (and lack thereof) can cost YOU.

        October 28, 2012 at 5:30 am |
    • TexasMom43

      As a retired person, by your account, I should be in that 47%. I think you misunderstood. Romney worded it strangely but I took it to mean the hard-core, 5-generations-on-welfare people. They have been crippled and demoralized by the Democrat Party and cannot leave the Plantation. I don't know what the true percentage is but do know there are many, too many, people who are not disabled and yet have never done a day's work in their lives and would vote to keep it that way, no matter how Romney's party appealed to them. I think that's what he really meant and it came out wrong – we can't always say things in a perfect way, else we'd be angels singing in the heavenly choir!

      October 26, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Reply
      • Clinton

        Texas mom
        – By my account? No by Romney's account. He said that 47% of Americans do not pay income tax, he went on to say these people will never take responsibility for their lives. He was referring to these people as a hole, and i say again, that includes our brothers and sisters in the military it includes retirees, it includes all those who do not pay income taxes. He lumped all of these people together and demonized them. These are people that have fought and served this country, these are people who worked their entire lives struggling to get by and now rely on the Social Security and Medicare that THEY PAID FOR over their entire adult working lives. You may not want to believe that he was referring to you, but if you fall in those categories, he was absolutely referring to you. Dismiss it if you want, but you're just ignoring something to justify the candidate you chose.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • tommyVA

      Clinton, I don,t care what you may think of Romney or what he said. I happen to agree that there are too many people that depend on a handout from the gov't to survive. I'm not talking about military or retired people, they have worked for that privilege. I'm talking about the able bodied people that choose this lifetstyle instead of being productive members of society. The left thinks that they are doing some great service to these people. But when the money is gone and these people that have been so dependent on the gov't to survive are starving in the streets because they don't know how to make it for themselves, I hope you and others on the left can look in the mirror and be proud of the lives that you have helped.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Reply
      • Clinton

        whoah whoah whoah Mr. TommyVA – Believe me I don't advocate for the multi-generational welfare family that is abusing our Tax dollars so they can live a lazy lifestyle. But maybe you ought to take a history class before you put that on Obama. Welfare is a system that's existed for a very long time through both Democrat and Republican administrations.. In fact it hasn't changed since Obama was in office and it didn't change under Bush, the last person to reform Welfare was Bill Clinton's administration and he cut into long term Welfare abusers. You should really get information before you blame people.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
      • TexasMom43

        When the handouts stop, many of those people will be rioting and criminalizing and predating on the others of us. I always knew this and like that "obamaphone" woman, I know many are mentally deficient. Part of the welfare payments were extortion money, to keep the rest of us relatively safe. My home certainly was not safe while my family was away at school and at work and we were burgled...... My car was not safe when it was stolen. But take away the handouts from hard-core recipients and you had better have a secure home and barracade. It sounds awfully tin-foil but I truly believe this.

        October 26, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
  19. SickandTiredof being SIckandTired

    Anderson Cooper, what happened to you? Reporting on "crazy carp" when THIS story was in your hands? I'm truly disappointed. Goodbye CNN.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Reply
    • JesterX

      Proof that conserves don't know what they're talking about. Cooper's show has been LEADING with Benghazi every night for the past 2-3 weeks.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      They haven't even scratched the surface of what really happened. I'd like to see much more questioning into what happened - and I'm talking all news sources so we can get to root causes. Have a backbone to question this government.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Reply
      • JesterX

        If you mean see boogeymen where there are none. I can't do that. That's a conserve thing

        October 26, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
  20. Paul Rogers

    They had CIA eyes on the ground asking for permission to help, "Stand Down" They said! They had a drone in the air watching the entire incident with real time feed to the White House, CIA and Pentagon. Don't tell me they didn't have enough info to send in troops or at the very least air support.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Reply
    • TexasMom43

      That the entire attack (with torture and murders) was seen by a drone is sickening beyond belief. I so wanted to trust and believe in Mr. Panetta. Now I see him as another traitorous government person and a personal threat to me and all Americans. It's the sickening gestalt I had on 9-11, that it's muslims and they want to do this to ALL of us "Infidels". I took it personally – what other way could it be taken? Apparently it took 11 years for some of my friends to understand what a threat Islam with it's attendant Sharia really is to free Americans. We don't have enough time for them to see how every agency of our government has been infiltrated by devout muslims who will destroy us to gain their "caliphate". For myself, Prince Bandar was the first deceitful Saudi, who wormed his way into the confidences of the Bush family. Once you saw that, you see the mindset of these people.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Reply
  21. Okcgrey

    Is CNN afraid of the Administration?

    October 26, 2012 at 12:49 pm | Reply
  22. JesterX

    Hey you rabid, tea-party conserves who are politicizing the deaths of Americans because you think it damages Obama. Here are the facts:

    1. There WAS NO order to stand down. U.S. Military personnel who see Americans in danger need no permission to defend them. Stop watching Fox

    2. The request for more security was to double the current number of 2 to 4. 4 security personnel would not have repelled that attack.

    3. EVERYONE on the ground said they were shocked by the size of the attack. So how could the Obama admin have known?

    This is nothing but a partisan witch hunt. It disgusts me to see the depths conserves will go to further their warped agenda.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      Please quote your sources

      October 26, 2012 at 12:42 pm | Reply
      • Okcgrey

        Yes, this story has political ramifications. However, this is an important story and we want answers. Where is the investigative reporting by CNN?

        October 26, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
      • Concerned Citizen

        100% agree

        October 26, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
      • Concerned Citizen

        Just like when a plane goes down. I want to know why. Get to the root cause. Then we can prevent this in the future. But until I hear root cause, I'm going to keep asking questions. I want my news media asking questions.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • Jim

      Wow! Talk about having not paid any attention! Obviously you've read an article about a week ago and have missed everything that's come out since then. Back to the View for you.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Reply
      • JesterX

        Those were from CURRENT articles.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
      • Concerned Citizen

        Please show us your sources (current articles)

        October 26, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Doris

      You're wrong. There was a stand down. Obama wants to believe he defeated terrorism...

      October 26, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Reply
    • tommyVA

      Think about what you just said. If there was no order to stand down, and the military doesn't need permission to help, then WHY, in a 7 HOUR GUNBATTLE. did no one from the military help. I'll tell you why, it's because they were told not to. The agents in the battle had laser targetted the mortar positions and were waiting for air support that never came. The phone rang at 3 a.m. and this administration did not answer it and watched in real time as 4 americans were murdered.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Reply
    • BB

      at least Fox news does cite their sources and if their sources are correct this would be a big deal indeed... whereas comrade CNN once more goes the tomato route by continuing to print the party line...

      October 26, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Reply
    • outraged also

      You are so out of date on the facts. Maybe you should tune into Fox for the real facts. Our administration are cowards and liars.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Reply
    • TexasMom43

      It sickens me to see this horror reduced to "partisan politics". It is not. I am an American. An American who still believes in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness – and all three have been in serious danger for the last 10 years.
      Probably earlier but 9-11 was my gestalt.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Reply
    • skeptical12345

      It was Panetta who used the term "stand Down"

      I agree, Obama could not have known details ahead of time, BUT, it was the anniversary of 9/11 and commen sense dictates precaution.

      Mistakes were made, mistakes are going to be made in the future, just don't lie about it and try to minimize the deaths of 4 Americans. It is not a bump in the road, and it is certainly NOT "less than optimal"!!!!!

      October 26, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
    • Aaron

      You are as incompitent as your are blind. Matters not though. In a week and a half, you will be complaining about a whole new problem in your world. How will President Elect Romney deal with this. You watch MSNBC entirely too much Jester.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
      • TexasMom43

        Aaron, it may not matter a fig, this election, for we've been mortally injured and past recovery, even if "critical care" is available. Chatter of assasinations, riots and other criminal mayhem dominate Twitter, should Obama be swept out; he can still do much damage between a loss and actually moving out. He is a petty, narcissistic little man, no matter what political side any of us are on – he is a disgrace to the office. He's done terrible damage in every field and we the people are suffering – his racial supporters suffering even more if you look at unemployment figures by race. I feel for those folks – many who only wanted someone they could have pride in.........he hurt them most of all. I believe the word "Evil" sums it best.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • alwyr

      Jester: From your remarks I can tell you've NEVER been in combat.

      This battle was raging for HOURS and being observed in 'real time' via 2 drones overhead. We had Americans on the ground "in contact" with the enemy, and were in danger of being overrun. THEY REPEATEDLY REQUESTED help (air cover, i.e. gunships). F-16's based in Aviano, Italy, were approximately 1 hour's flight time from Benghazi. (Air) gunships (C-130's) likewise based in Aviano were approximately 1:45 to 2 hours from Benghazi.

      Since the attack began circa 4:00 p.m. WASHINGTON D.C. time, and assuming POTUS was not asleep, was he involved in any decision regarding air strikes? If not, why not? And most importantly, if he was involved in the decision making process WHAT DECISION DID HE MAKE????

      October 26, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Reply
  23. Dallas Orf

    CIA agents near by requested permission to help x 3 and they were told to "stand down" x 3. This is inexcusable. Panetta was watching in reL TIME W/ VIDEO CAMERAS AND A DRONE OVER HEAD – JUST WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WAS HE WAITING FOR? THE cOMANDER AND cHIEF TO SAY OKAY? MOST LIKELY!

    October 26, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Reply
  24. David

    The liberal news media would like to relagate this ongoing story-to the "invewstigation" file-so tyhat their election intentions will not be disrupted by the truth!
    Come on CNN-NOTHING on the frront page-SHAME on U!!!!!!!!!!!!

    October 26, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Reply
    • SickandTiredof being SIckandTired

      They have to confirm the report with....wait for it....Jay Carney first. LOL

      October 26, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Reply
      • hdward

        I keep thinking, "If this was my husband or child that was begging for help and help never came I would want answers now", not after elections or months from now. This situation is disgusting, and for CNN and other news media's to not investigate says a lot about how far they will go to protect their own agenda.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • dh47

      CNN(CommieNewsNetwork) what do you expect?

      October 26, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Reply
  25. David

    CNN is not telling you the latest new's with regard to Libya--3 calls for help, in the midst of the attack-– were denied!

    October 26, 2012 at 12:33 pm | Reply
    • Maska

      CIA told to STAND DOWN... are you kidding me?!?! The more that comes out about this the more I'm switching my vote for an honorable President. Time to send this failure back to Chicago (or jail).

      October 26, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Reply
    • Danielle

      What else did they have to do file a report during the battle???They are security people requesting help!!!

      October 26, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Reply
  26. Nate

    If it was a requirement to know everything that was happening on the ground before troops were deployed, there wouldn't be a need for troops because no one would ever be deployed. #fogofwar

    October 26, 2012 at 12:33 pm | Reply
  27. Patrick

    This is very odd since it has been reported the two SEALs that died had laser trackers on the Libyan positions. This is a clear sign that the changes made after 2001 need more tweaking. It does not appear the CIA, State Department and military were on the same page. Also the fact that 9/11 seems to play no special consideration in the minds of our leaders just goes to show how time erodes away precautions. It's like hurricanes, you evacuate for near misses and finally say I'm staying and then you get hit. Certainly not everywhere in the world can be rapid response personnel ready but c'mon man, its Benghazi.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Reply
  28. fhelms

    BREAKING NEWS! Sources on the ground in Benghazi during the attack on the US consulate sys that CIA operatives twice asked for permission to help Ambassador Chris Stevens and his staff, and twice were told to 'stand down' - while a later request for military backup was denied.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Reply
  29. josh rogen

    this is sickening. during the 7 hour attack the rescue team was 1 hour away and ready to go..they were told by someone to "stand down" at that same time there was a meeting in the oval office. Apparently the truth is something only demanded of republicans .

    October 26, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Reply
  30. Okcgrey

    Story is missing so much information, every day CNN losses credibility as a news source. Americans are crying out or information. Who was in the chain of command? Who in government knew what, when did they know, why did the Administrtion make the choices they did? Each day we find more confirmation that there was crystal clear intelligence and yet the Administration response seems so limp. CNN seems to be failing to ask the most basic questions and report the most basic information about timelines. What is going on with our press, why is this not the lead story every day?

    October 26, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Reply
    • Ray

      Since when do first responders know everything before rushing to help a fire, a medical emergency, an attack on a US Ambassador? Who said the forces could not get there soon enough as if they knew how long the attack would last? How long after the attack was Chris Stevens alive and waiting for help and asking for help? Who did the autopsy on his mutilated body and the others and what were the results? Where are the 3 captured terrorists turned over to the Libiyans? If Obama did not know everything from the start he is incompetant. If he knew. it was either a dereliction of duty or inability to make a decision or a totally unreveled reason/agenda for inept, cowardly, and indecisive behavior.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Reply
    • Confused

      Also, I love the caption under the photo on this story. It says "protestor" instead of " terrorist"

      October 26, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Reply
  31. Dave Siegel

    When is CNN and other main stream media going to get up to speed. Either they are totally inept or they don't want to make Obama and his team of morons look like the morons they really are. Why does FOX News have so much more info than CNN? Didn't CNN get into the compound that was attacked and recover the Ambassador's diary? To CNN, what are you guys afraid of. Do your job and report what you know to the American people.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
  32. fred

    Many Obama haters, who claim to be military experts, have seen plenty of war movies where the good guys jump into a stealth fighter and bomb bad guys (who always seem to be hanging around) into the stoneage, then drink beers and bond with fellow warriors.
    In the Benghazi case the bad guys did not bother to hang around like they do in the movies. No doubt they wished to survive to attack another day, they knew they had to get out before Americans could respond with force.
    The real Military experts consider the realities of "harms Way" and know pain of writing letters to fallen warrior's survivors and families. When forces are deployed down range, it is only after real military experts make sure we will win with minimal causlties; and provide proper firepower and evac support. Under Obama, they avoid making stupid decisions that will sacrifice American lives, while uncertain of the facts. (Ref 1975 Mayaguez, with our heroic repubs forcing military commanders to guess, with fog of battle resulting in abandoning wounded Marines to mercy of the Khmer Rouge.)
    Unlike in the movies, our service men and women are not expendible.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Reply
    • OIF Veteran 03-04

      Fred – Believe me I know. As a Veteran of the Global War on Terrorism I absolutely know what you're saying, and I honestly don't even care which side is doing it, I absolutely hate it when politicians politicize events like these. It is absolutely degrading to our men and women in the military. Do these repubs and their supporters even know how it makes the families of these fallen soldiers feel? To have their loved ones talked about politically and their last moments used as the rope in some tug-O-war for politicians and ordinary people like the ones posting here? Do any of these people know what that's like? How absolutely hurtful. They're trying to grieve as people rip apart their memories to try and win a political advantage... it disgusts me, regardless of party, this kind of crap is rediculous.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Reply
      • TeaTime4Bonzo

        3 Separate requests were made for assistance and 3 separate orders were given to stand down. Unacceptable!

        October 26, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
      • OIF Veteran 03-04

        According to you? Who the heck are you except for an obvious teabag Dbag. You're not a soldier, heck i bet you never even been in a fist fight in your life you chump. You got a big mouth and sitting here saying how our Military commanders were wrong and should have sent in a rescue team when they didn't have a clue what was going on is rediculous... you obviously have no clue what war is like. You don't send a team in blind to save people because you might just be sending folks to their death's... You might think that's worth the risk but a Military commander has to choose... he has to way the options of sending a team in blind who could ALL DIE in the process. You're just an idiot with nothing at risk, these men make real calls that decide life or death so until you know what that's like why don't you keep your fool mouth shut you teabagger.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
      • Jim

        OIf, you really don't sound like any of the military people I've worked with. You're giving veterans a bad rap by association. Your hatred indicates you are more of just another liberal hater than you are a person like most that have served.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
      • OIF Veteran 03-04

        Hey Jim,
        That's neat that you know Service members but guess what, I don't even vote you dunce, I don't care who's going to be the next president, because i don't think either political party represents me. I am not for either party, but in this instance you got a bunch of Republican's trying to politicize the deaths of my brothers who served this nation and no matter what party does that you're going to see me speaking out against it. I don't care if you're Republican or Democrat it's not your business to question military commander's decisions in the line of duty. As per my comments about the Tea Party, i watched Tea party folks stirring up talk of revolution, To me, that's anti-american, i think the occupy movement is anti-American too. Bottom line, i'm for this country and it's people and i defend those brave folks that put the uniform on and are real patriots, not these jokers in Washington or the morons who follow them blindly.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
      • JD

        to the "veteran" on here who calls teabag people Dbags, I say efff u. I too am a military veteran and I've never heard so much tripe spilling out of the mouth of a "so-called" veteran. The Libya situation is a cover-up of monumental proportions and all a tool like you can do is play cheerleader for this traitor. Brave men lost their lives and all you want to do is run interference. Blow me.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
  33. OIF Veteran 03-04

    Two things i want to point out:
    1. Americans have a Serious lack of understanding when it comes to the capabilities of the US Military, you really do, you really think we can have a team on the ground in 15 minutes anywhere in the world when something comes up, we can't. Nobody can yet. It takes time to coordinate everything and react.
    2. It's great that there's such a huge public outcry over this embassy attack, but maybe just for a second people should step back and realize, THERE'S STILL SOLDIERS FIGHTING AND DYING IN AFGHANISTAN!!!!! ... There's no huge outcry every time a soldier comes back, is it because we're supposed to die? What's the deal here? This is a tragedy yes, but no more of a tragedy then when one of my brother's fall in the line of duty... You should keep it in perspective and at least remember our Brave Men and Women that are targets each and every day of their lives while this war continues.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Reply
    • TeaTime4Bonzo

      Yeah, and 3/4 of our brave soldiers have been killed in the past 4 years! Thats 75% more deaths under Obama administration than in 8 years of GW Bush.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Reply
      • OIF Veteran 03-04

        Are you serious? How can you possibly talk like that? like my brother's lives are a game to you? You are a joke of a human being. You know as well as i do McCain wasn't pulling troops out of Afghanistan if he won the election in 08 so shut your fool mouth and quit politicizing the Death's of my brothers. I swear it is well past time you tea party freaks need to dissappear... I'm telling you right now, you're Anti-American and if it ever comes down to it, i'll be the first one ready to put you guys back in your place, i'll re-inlist to do that. You're psycho's and i despise your kind.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • Jim

      OIF may be a veteran. I don't care. I am too. When you resort to the accusations and name calling that you've stooped to, you sound more just like another liberal hater than one of our fellow veterans. You're shaming us.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Reply
      • OIF Veteran 03-04

        Jim, Good job for serving your country but i'm a little dissapointed that you think because i don't like the Tea Party that i'm some liberal whacko. I'm not, I'm not political, i definitely have strong positions against groups that i feel are a detriment to our society and are anti-American, Tea Party folks are in fact Anti-American as i have seen them stirr the pot and talk of revolution. I am against the Occupy movement as well... I'm for the United States of America and it's people and I staunchly defend my brother's in arms I absolutely hate it whenever the loss of our brothers is politicized regardless of party... If this was Obama talking about this, i'd be saying the exact same thing.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
      • Jim

        Okay, I get that, but please don't assume everyone in a group behaves one way or another. I'd call myself pretty close to if not in with the tea party. I've been at just one of their events in Columbus and it was large with no hatred spewed that I heard and a very peaceful event about our budget. The only disruption were some liberals ( I know all of them are not that way either) that went into the middle of the group with racist signs and they were promptly surrounded by attendees that just peacefully escorted them out of the crowd.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • Guest

      It's clear from many posts here that many Americans have a hard time distinguishing between Hollywood and reality. Since only 1% of Americans serve in the armed forces in the first place, that leaves most Americans believing whatever they see from the media. One media source in particular has an agenda, that is to get Republicans elected. Much of this Benghazi situation is manufactured outrage. Where's the outrage when our service men and women are KIA? Where's the outrage when Republicans in congress block jobs bills that would help veterans? Right, there is no outrage, this phony anger now is political opportunism in an election year. Please spare those of us who have loved ones currently serving overseas. You folks make us sick.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Reply
      • Jim

        I'm outraged by it every day. My dad was career military and I served as well for a short time. My anger is at putting our people in harms way without the resolve to enable them to win by tying their hands behind their backs or not defending them adequately.n either we go in with massive resolve to win as quickly as possible and get out or we shouldn't go at all.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
  34. Mel1965

    UNBELIEVABLE!! The two ex-Navy Seals who died, and others with them who are, so far, unnamed, had to DISOBEY orders to "stand down" in order to save countless other lives or we would have had a higher body count than four dead Americans. And yet Obama refuses to call a press conference and lay out the truth about this because he's too busy on the campaign trail? Unlike Mitt Romney, President Obama HAS a job that makes him accountable to the American public RIGHT NOW... actually more than a month ago! Why were these four men simply expendable?

    October 26, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Reply
  35. Concerned Citizen

    This is a major failure of the government. I want to see CNN aggressively reporting this.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Reply
    • Guest

      You want to use the deaths of 4 Americans to support your own political agenda. I want CNN to investigate who financed the Benghazi attack. Yes, let's get to the bottom of it. Mitt Romney said he needed a foreign policy problem to make the president look bad. Did one of his billionaire backers order one up for him?

      October 26, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Reply
  36. Pete

    Panetta is a liar! See Fox News for the truth. There were 2 drones flying over Benghazi during the attack. There were also numerous calls for help from the two former Navy Seals who were killed. They were told by Panetta to stand down. Panetta should be arrested along with Hillary and O'Bama. They all watched 4 Americans die from the White House "situation" room and did nothing about it for fear it would blow O'Bama's re-election. Now Hillary is saying she requested more security for Benghazi and O'Bama said, "NO". Simply disgusting...

    October 26, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Reply
    • Jim

      Amen. And I'd call CNN complicit in the way they bury this. Their only concern is the reelection of Obama that brought us this dreadful, cowardice in our foreign policy.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Reply
  37. Jim

    Well, at least Fox thinks this is serious enough to cover. It's their headline article while CNN tries to bury it. Basically Amb Stevens was going to an opening of an English language school by a Libyan farmer that rescued a downed US Pilot during the revolution there. The CIA agents on the top of the Annex had lasers on the mortar crew that eventually killed them and were pleading for a Specter ground support aircraft to come in and take it out. Multiple military elements requested to assist and were told to stand down by the CIA chain of command. That is Disgusting as is Cnn's lack of consideration of this. Oh well, you can keep up to date on Honey Boo Boo and Lance's doping here, right?.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Reply
  38. real rob

    well,, the strategics of these kind of situations are changing fast,...suppose it was a feint?,.. misdirected data??..send defense here, then attack there?..its not a black and white deal anymore,,[if it ever was??],..It is very easy, and common to start slinging blame, but you me we were not there,, we! didnt have the responsibilty,.."rapid resonse" was not all that rapid,,still isnt,..yet!,...but I dare say it is getting more rapid as we speak,,and even then,.. we cant just rush in and start "hosing" civlians,can we?..I dare say some grey cells are churning as we speak,, and next time will be different,,its a big world people, as he said,, "we cant be everywhere,all the time"..You do these jobs? you take the risks,,its "riding an edge",,sometimes,, we fall off,,it happens,,,personally, I dont like seeing these kinds of situations being used as some kind of "tool" for God knows what,,think you! can do better?? then get off it and get it done,, otherwise,, leave it alone,,,

    October 26, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Reply
    • TeaTime4Bonzo

      One must be critical and vigilant. There is no reason to leave anything alone. The Arab Spring is really the Islamic Radical Spring, enabled by non other than Barrack Hussein Obama!

      October 26, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Reply
    • SickandTiredof being SIckandTired

      "Real Rob" ...get real....please this is an adult conversation. So now we know the CIA requested help on the ground at the annex THREE times and three times denied. Responders told to stand down. So if the greatest intelligence agency in the world cannot provide Panetta with a "good enough" sitrep to act on....just WHO can????????

      October 26, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Reply
    • Gordon

      From Vietnam our country learned a valuable lesson, something that was applied quite effectively in Iraq/Kuwait. CIC and the Pentagon make strategic decisions then turn it over to the tactical leaders. Some will call this an oversimplification, but what happened in Benghazi was tactical. Our CIC, Pentagon, and intelligence got hung up trying to go tactical as they ostensibly did with the take down of bin laden. It didn't work because the bad guys initiated this one, it was already happening tactically. We had/have a tactical force for such contingencies, a Rapid Deployment Force, albeit not close and our strategists couldn't bring themselves to letting it go tactical without knowing how it would turn out (how to say this this?) politically. So, they did nothing. If the Rapid Deployment Force is an hour or more away, deploy them. If during that hour new intel says STOP, recall them. Otherwise, let the Tactical Force do their job with specific strategic direction determined during that hour. Our strategists were blind, not enough intel. Others could have died? If so they would have died trying – trying to save American lives. When did the last 2 die? Could we have saved them? There is a code. To not even try to save our people says something about about us, who we are. In all our wars many Americans have died trying to save others, not just Americans. Make no mistake, this is a war. There is a code.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Reply
  39. Peter Beck

    Damage control, that's all this is. Gotta cover the boss' behind. There were three emergency requests for military assistance by CIA operatives from their nearby annex. All three times they were told to "stand down."

    October 26, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Reply
  40. buzz

    THis should be front page news, but it seems CNN is more worried about Colin Powell's endorsement of President Obama. Its not like its a big deal tha multiple Aerican citizens were killed while the entire chain of command sat back and watched. NOw who do you think decided not to go in, the military generals,who believe in leaving no one behind, or the White House. HMMMM,.

    October 26, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Reply
    • TeaTime4Bonzo

      You got it. I had to sniff around to find anything about this on ABC,CNN, CBS. I didn't even try on NBC.
      Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

      October 26, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Reply
      • single mom

        I checked for this story on other sites – MSNBC – buried under the 'security' section; CBS – halfway down on the left; ABC – I had to hit page down twice and its under politics; and CNN – ah, yes, it is between Berlosconi's sentence and the hurricane. What was reassuring – the growing number of furious comments – all demanding more coverage and investigation – instead of fluff like Katie Holmes, a NYC nanny, and Hillary Clinton's birthday.

        October 26, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Concerned Citizen

      Yes, and I can't help but think about how they were the ones that sent Ambassador Stevens in to further the mission of the United States - knowing how dangerous it was - without having his back.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Reply
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      First and foremost, as Americans what is importanty when a tragedy hits home whether its on our main land or abroad, it is essentially important that we unite as a nation and denomstrate to the enemy our unity and resolve. I believe the last thing we want to do is to convey to the enemy that their outrageous attacks have served its purpose which is to divide our nation and put us against each other. The Benghazi tragedy is sad and it is unfortunate that it happened but then again, do republicans see the deaths of our American comreds as a tragedy or rather as an opportunist political benefit for Mitt Romney? A few weeks ago, the mother of one of the deceased said she does not trust Romney and she demanded that Romney stop using her son's name for political gain. Should I say more? Then a week ago, the Ambassador's father said he believes his son's death is being politicized too much. Should I say more?

      And by the way, we fouht an illegitimate seven year war in Iraq, lost more than 4000 troops, killed tens of thousands of innocent Iraq civilians in the process, desatbilizing a stable nation, igniting an ongoing civil war and created a hotbed for al Qaeda to grow roots. And we are yet to account for the WMDs we said we went to war for. Moreover, we are still suffering casualties in an Afghan war the GOP deliberately and recklessly abandoned and prolonged to invade Iraq. And let me reiterate that had we not invaded Iraq and had invested the resources and manpower we poured into Iraq instead into Afghanistan, that country would have long been stabilized, we would have been out with thousands of American and NATO lives sparred and $2 trillion dollars saved. And by the way, the Iraqi war has cost $3 trillion, so that's a total of $5 trillion wasted U.S. dollars. for both wars. No wonder our deficit in imploding.

      As I have stated before, having more U.S. security could have averted the attack but then again, there is no proof that the attack would have been averted. During the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, our heavily fortified bases were breached dozends of times with American casualties ensuing 75% of the time simply because the insurgents were able the insurgents used rocket propelled grenades from a distance. Likewise, the Benghazi compound was not breached by boots on the ground and machine guns. No, the compound was set ablaze when the terrorists unleashed their rocket propelled grenades from a distance. therefore, even if we had more security there, these attacks would not have been averted. Finally, the 1983 Beirut attack which killed 283 of our Marines was successfully carried out by terrorists who were also able to breach a very heavily fortified compound. Please stop politicizing the tragedy. Its not going to help Romney win the election. What it does is empower the terrorists and weaken our resolve.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Reply
      • TeaTime4Bonzo

        Nothing more will empower the Islamist radicals more than four more years of Obama. Take that to the Bank.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
      • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer


        GM is alive and Bin laden is dead! Take two drops of that and see how your tea taste now. O' and by the way teatime, in the four years that President Obama has been our commander in chief, I didn't see any skyscrapers collapsing in America or our Pentagon being attacked. And from my vantage point here off the banks of the Hudson River, the Freedom Tower is nearing completion, redefining our might and superiority once more. And by the way, Romnesia didn't build that.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
      • TeaTime4Bonzo

        Pretty sour considering how many stockholder's shares evaporated to "0" value. Not to mention those poor retirees who held bonds and lost it all. You just wont see those guys on the evening news. GM was handed over to the union and every other stakeholder got screwed. Oh by the way, GM opening several factories in China next year, whoop!

        CO report GM most likely will never pay back entire amount owed back to American people. Hey how about that $40,000 cost per Chevy Volt that US is subsidizing? NICE JOB!

        October 26, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
      • ILoveAmerica

        Hey blahblah, you are a pathetic left wing limp wristed weasel......and "You didnt build that" are also in the small minority defending this trajedy and pathetic administration....

        October 26, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • Concerned Citizen

      I agree that this is a tragedy. When a plane crashes, it is a tragedy. That doesn't stop people from asking: why?
      When the "why" is answered, then we can improve. Until we get to the root causes of the tragedy we will not be able to address those root causes.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Reply
      • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

        OK! With that being said, WHY the illegitimate Iraqi war and WHERE are the WMDs??? The Benghazi tragedy is still being investigated and it was at the beginning stage when within an hour of the attack being known, Mitt Romney rushed to a microphone before the President could gather information and address the nation, only to politicize a tragedy by accusing the President of sympathizing with the attackers. That is unacceptable. Secondly, whereas the Benghazi attack is still being investigated, the Iraqi war is long over and nine years later, don't you think its time these same republicans tell the American people WHY the illegitimate Iraqi war and WHERE the WMDs are???

        October 26, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
      • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

        In 2004, GWB's wife Laura Bush was campaigning in Hopewell New Jersey for her husband's re-election bid. Then a women by the name of Susan Naderer approached the stage harmless and asked Ms. Bush... "WHY did my son die in Iraq and WHERE are the WMDs?" Well, do you know what happened to this poor grieving mother? She was arrested by the local police, handcuffed and dragged away. This already grieving mother was victimzed twice. And by the way, GWB and his entire family have already endorsed Romney. Yes, another republican in office and before you know it, all our civil liberties will be taken away including our kids lives while their kids hide in exclusive resorts in the south side of France.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
  41. JesterX

    Why conserves? Why would Ambassador Stevens deliberately go into an attack you all say the Obama administration KNEW was coming? Why would he be at the least protected site the U.S. had? Why would he, according to you, ALLOW himself to be killed?

    Please explain that to me.

    October 26, 2012 at 11:52 am | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      Apparently he had protection assigned to him, but it obviously not enough since he had requested moreā€“which was apparently denied. Ambassador Stevens is a foot soldier who was willing to go in harm's way to further the mission of the United States.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      The government was willing to put Stevens into harm's way (a brave man who went where he was assigned), why not the US military?

      October 26, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Reply
    • Jim

      You have to go to Fox's site to get that information. He was going to an opening of an English language school by a Libyan farmer that rescued a downed US Pilot. Also you can get a lot more facts there. The CIA agents on the top of the Annex had lasers on the mortar crew that eventually killed them and were pleading for a Specter ground support aircraft to come in and take it out. Multiple military elements requested to assist and were told to stand down by the CIA chain of command. Disgusting.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Reply
      • JesterX

        What school opening? The attack began at 8 pm. What school opens at 8 pm?

        October 26, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • everdene

      Why is CNN still reporting the story in such a biased way? Do they think we're stupid? All they do is repeat the White House line, even when the White House line is full of hogwash and contradicts what CNN knows.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
  42. BrendaB

    Why in God's name are you still protecting this "TREASONAS Administration" Everyone of them have been doing nothing but LYING to each and every American, and yes to you. Or are you guilty also of treason

    October 26, 2012 at 11:48 am | Reply
    • TeaTime4Bonzo

      Why would anyone not be critical of any administration when they screw up. This incident is starting really stink. This administration is corrupt. Their policy of islamic appeasement is dangerous.

      October 26, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply
    • single mom

      I walk to/from work through an upper to middle class neighborhood in a DC suburb. Yesterday on the way home, I saw a man scrapping an Obama 2012 sticker off his car. An Obama yard sign was crumpled on the ground. I stopped and asked if he minded me asking why he was doing that. He said his son was in the military and his niece was in the Diplomatic Service. "If Obama and Clinton aren't going to help an Ambassador, then they sure as hell aren't going to help my son and niece. The more I hear about it, the more disgusted I am with both of them." He looked at me and asked if I had a problem with that. I shook my head and said, nope. I'm an Army Brat, Air Force vet and mom of two sons in the military.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Reply
  43. Rick12345

    Well, I think there is something seriously wrong when you see the embassy on fire an nothing but chaos on the ground. But what do I know...

    October 26, 2012 at 11:47 am | Reply
  44. JesterX

    Still waiting for one of you conserves to explain to me why Ambassador Stevens would deliberately go into an attack, according to you conserves, the administration KNEW was coming, without protection. You're saying he deliberately layed down his life so you could use it to attack Obama.

    . . . that's how much sense conserves make.

    October 26, 2012 at 11:41 am | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      Apparently he had protection assigned to him, but it obviously not enough since he had requested more–which was apparently denied. Ambassador Stevens is a foot soldier who was willing to go in harm's way to further the mission of the United States.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Reply
    • bill

      LIke that makes a FU**ING difference you tool! It was HIS JOB as ambassador, he was loyal to his post! Something, apparently, you know nothing of.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Reply
    • single mom

      Who said Stevens knew he would be attacked on any specific day/night? I'll be the first to admit I'm not sure I understand his decision in going to Benghazi on 9/11, even to honor a Libyan who helped an American pilot (why not suggest a different day?) But I'm willing to bet that he died unable to understand why Obama, Clinton and Panetta didn't send support.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Reply
    • ILoveAmerica

      Thats your argument, thats your excuse? Thats your defence? Why was ambassador Stevens there??? You are pathetic....liberalism is a mental retard disorder....

      October 26, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Reply
  45. TeaTime4Bonzo

    I guess that its easier to blame some dufus for a bad anti islam film then to take responsibility for not securing our diplomats and military personel. Our leaders have armed our adversaries and have enabled evil. Obama administration is acting in a treasonous manner.

    October 26, 2012 at 11:24 am | Reply
    • Givemeabreak

      I cannot believe that during this 7 hour assault Emb Stevens was not on all the phones he had talking to all the people he could about exactly what was going on and asking for help. Are we to believe that no direct information was coming from these folks. Isn't that some good intel? Again, we also had a drone watching it in real time. Stevens knew the area, groups, and threats...that's why he wanted more security. For our government to say it did not get good info during this 7 hour attack from the people who were being attacked and scared for their lives is ludicris.

      October 26, 2012 at 11:45 am | Reply
  46. Name*jay

    Pathetic is not sufficient to characterize the excuse/reason being given by Panetta.

    October 26, 2012 at 11:24 am | Reply
  47. Obama Failed

    Panetta's absurd statement is the result of the failed Middle East foreign policies. President Obama is more interested in "leading from behind" with a limited military presence and retarded Rules of Engagement i.e. be nice to enemies, then they'll be nice to us. In reality, there were countless requests for greater security in Benghazi, but that didn't fit with his Middle East policies for appeasement.

    October 26, 2012 at 11:23 am | Reply
  48. Concerned Citizen

    If my family were in that consulate, I would want the military to put themselves into harm's way to protect them.

    October 26, 2012 at 11:17 am | Reply
  49. SickandTiredof being SIckandTired

    Too bad the only testicles left in this administration left with Stanley McChrystal.

    October 26, 2012 at 11:13 am | Reply
  50. Concerned Citizen

    I'm going to make my demands for accountability on this administration with my vote.

    October 26, 2012 at 11:05 am | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      Where was the civilian leader of the military? Did he as well choose not to put the military in harm's way?

      October 26, 2012 at 11:07 am | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      Did he choose to put the military in harm's way to go after Osama Bin Laden, but not to protect a US ambassador?

      October 26, 2012 at 11:10 am | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      In this case, is he only willing to symbolically protect US citizens? What if that were you or I in that consulate?

      October 26, 2012 at 11:15 am | Reply
    • A Sneaky Drone

      Is it really necessary to keep talking to yourself? Christ if you actually read the whole damn article, it said that military forces would not be able to intervene in time, on top of that, you have the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff saying that there wasn't really a whole lot of options on the table.

      October 26, 2012 at 11:18 am | Reply
      • Paul

        Not correct it was just released that there was plenty, as usual Obam sissied out

        October 26, 2012 at 11:38 am |
      • Joe

        Paul, Sissied out? Seriously? The same guy who authorized the icing of Bin Laden and ordered the SEALs to drop those Somali pirates like a bad habit? Dis the President for real problems...Not made up ones or suggesting he can't make tough calls.

        Don't be bitter that Obama got him and Bush just didn't care enough to look for him. It's really unbecoming.

        October 26, 2012 at 11:48 am |
      • bill

        Oh BULL SHI*! It has been proven over and over how many forces we had in the area! Dozens of anti-terror teams even as close as 1-2 hours away! 7 HOURS LATER STILL PEOPLE DYING, still no help? Drones with full surveillance combing the area since the first attack started? Not enough intel? Thats their fuc*ing job! It's what we train them for, especially when THEY'RE BEGGING TO BE ALLOWED TO HELP!!! Don't be ridiculous, this is as clear cut as it gets, if you don't get it you're clueless.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
  51. ILoveAmerica

    WOW, Panetta said "You dont deploy forces into harms way"...............WOW!!!!!!! this a joke, is this who is protecting America and its Citizens? Is this guy senile? Most ridiculous thing I ever heard....if this doesnt put the final nail in this admins coffin I dont know what will......

    October 26, 2012 at 11:00 am | Reply
  52. JesterX

    Conserves won't tell me why Chris Stevens, if he KNEW of the impending attacks and that his bosses had callously pulled so much of his protection, why on 9/11 would he have even been at the unprotected consulate in Bhengazi, which was little more than a private house, then at the more fortified main embassy in Tripoli. I mean, it was HIS life at stake!

    Conserves think Chris Stevens gave his life so they could use his death against Obama.

    October 26, 2012 at 10:43 am | Reply
    • SickandTiredof being SIckandTired

      Shut your mouth about this brave servant of the United States of America. He did know the risks, but he went anyway. I guess he thought the full power and resources of the United States would protect him from harm.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:46 am | Reply
      • JesterX

        What risks? Your whole mantra against Obama is that he KNEW the attack was coming well in advance. If Obama knew, how could Stevens not know? And if Stevens knew, he did more than take the risk, he DELIBERATELY layed down his life.

        THAT'S what you conserves are saying.

        October 26, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • TimeForChange

      Maybe this pathetic admin should of sent protection and had him moved to a safe house since he begged for extra protection and feared for his life in the days, weeks months prior, this admin knew of the dangers...panetta and dempsey are pathetic has been lefties in bed with obama.......Americans died while obama spoke on the phone with J-Z and Beyonce, and then flew to vegas...............

      October 26, 2012 at 10:52 am | Reply
      • A Sneaky Drone

        He did go to the safe room, the Ambassador died of smoke inhalation from leaving the safe room. Facts, get them

        October 26, 2012 at 11:20 am |
      • JesterX

        If Stevens did as you said, "begged" for protection, why was he at the least protected site we had in Libya? Why wouldn't he have holed up at the main embassy in Tripoli?

        Your whole argument makes no sense.

        October 26, 2012 at 11:49 am |
      • Joe

        They don't need facts. They just say whatever they want. Sadly, the idiots believe them.

        It's easy to believe your own parties propaganda when you disavow all other news sources except for a few particular right wing blogs and sites as LIBRUL PROPERGANDER.


        October 26, 2012 at 11:52 am |
      • ILoveAmerica

        Ahh, losers, I am reading this on CNN, not on some "right wing blog" are you people mentally incapacitated? CNN is a known left wing mouth piece.....your arguments are pathetic.......sorry you are in the minority, telling by the comments here 80% of Americans are disgusted by what happened and this administration and obama......sorry you couple guys have obamas rod in your are the MINORITY!!

        October 26, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • Paul

      You belong over there wimp

      October 26, 2012 at 11:38 am | Reply
    • bill

      No one is saying that moron, you make bogus arguements because you KNOW OB is in deep shi* and you have absolutely nothing REAL to say!

      October 26, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Reply
  53. JD in GA

    If they had bolstered the security ther would have been more personnel on the ground and therefore more data and intelligence would have been relayed to Washington. When your personnel in a dangerous situation ask for more security you do not turn them down

    October 26, 2012 at 10:36 am | Reply
    • Wow...

      It's a shame the republicans blocked the request for additional security then, eh?

      October 26, 2012 at 11:53 am | Reply
      • Hmmm....

        The Republicans? No it was the Administration's fault. We have Marines gaurding the consulate in France , big danger there. But no extra security on 9/11 in Lybia – Really? It takes a little shuffling to move people where they need to be. McDonalds does a better job at allocating staff.

        October 26, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
  54. Greg

    Something doesn't add up. We have air power less than an hour away. The attack lasted over 7 hours. There's more to this. We deserve better answers than this.

    October 26, 2012 at 10:34 am | Reply
    • ohreally

      The attack may have lasted for seven hours, but US personnel were not there for seven hours. US consulate personnel were gone rather quickly after the attack started. We aren't going to send in troops to an empty consulate. There is no reason and we certainly aren't going to bomb the place.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:42 am | Reply
      • Concerned Citizen

        Certainly the bodies of the Ambassador and others were still there. Are you saying they weren't?

        October 26, 2012 at 10:49 am |
      • Concerned Citizen

        Also, how did they know they were already killed? Did they have that intelligence at the time? Was this really an intelligence failure?

        October 26, 2012 at 10:50 am |
      • Paul

        An obam suck up arent ya loser??

        October 26, 2012 at 11:39 am |
      • Wow...

        "Why couldn't they just fly over there! They weren't that far!" – The battle cry of idiots who can't even find Benghazi on a map

        October 26, 2012 at 11:55 am |
      • Concerned Citizen

        A common technique to those who can't answer the questions is to attack the one asking the questions.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
  55. North star

    The big issue is that despite repeated warnings, and requests for more security, 30 security personnel were withdrawn from the Embassy. It is incomkpetence, and the administration is blaming intel....I doubt the intel people agree and will be pretty ticked off at being thrown under the bus.

    October 26, 2012 at 10:15 am | Reply
    • SickandTiredof being SIckandTired

      No's apparently a big bus by the way things are evolving.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:16 am | Reply
    • JesterX

      Nonsense. If the threats were SOOOO imminent, as right-wing conserves lie, why on 9/11, was Chris Stevens at the far less protected consulate in Bhengazi instead of the more fortified main embassy in Tripoli? It was HIS life at stake.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:18 am | Reply
      • SickandTiredof being SIckandTired

        JesterX.....I want you to get CNN to read to you what was in Stevens' diary. They "semi-reported" on it, until the State Dept leaned on them, and berated them for recovering and holding it. You, sir, have NO idea what you are talking about.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:39 am |
      • ILoveAmerica

        Jester you are a real dummy arent you? You are blaming this on Ambassador Stevens now? Man you are more pathetic then are in the minority and are probably not an American to blame Stevens who was beaten, tortured burned and dragged through the streets by musli ms while this admin left him to die ....and they still have not condemned being attacked on AMERICAN sovereign got hillary and panetta thrown under the bus by obama and they agreed as he probably promised them jobs to cover his are pathetic...

        October 26, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • ohreally

      And this wasn't the embassy. This was in Benghazi not Tripoli. It's a consulate and not an embassy and they never requested more security for the consulate, just the embassy.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:23 am | Reply
      • Wow...

        These are facts. The Right doesn't pay attention to those. Good luck though, but I think you're wasting your breath trying to explain it to people. Showing facts to Right wingers is like explaining the color purple to a blind man.

        October 26, 2012 at 11:58 am |
      • TeaTime4Bonzo

        All evidence points to numerous requests for more security and a denial of such.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
      • Hmmm....

        They actually had the emails on line about the attack. They also had testimony from former security that was in Benghazi that testified more security was requested.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • TimeForChange

      obama will throw the intel community under the bus to join hillary and panetta just to save his butt and hope to get re-elected...

      October 26, 2012 at 10:55 am | Reply
  56. Joncook

    We spend trillions for them to be better than the fire department. Plus. If you have embassies to protect you make sure that defense in the region is on standby. Panetta's brushing off tactic is going to backfire. The real question is why the CIA didn't have informants and contacts in the area to have real time info? Isn't the job of the CIA to be one step ahead of the terrorists? Aren't they supposed to be the ones in control on foreign lands? Thought so.

    October 26, 2012 at 10:14 am | Reply
    • ohreally

      A quick reaction force from the CIA annex a mile away was sent to help the ambassador and others at the consulate. It eventually returned to the annex with all of the survivors and Sean Smith, a State Department official who had been killed, but not with Ambassador Stevens.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:15 am | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      So the CIA is willing to put people into harm's way, but not the military?

      October 26, 2012 at 10:39 am | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      Or was the quick reaction team military, and Panetta is lying?

      October 26, 2012 at 10:42 am | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      Or was the quick reaction team part of the military, and Panetta is lying?

      October 26, 2012 at 10:42 am | Reply
    • jrh0

      seriously? You think its that easy to just have informants everywhere and be one step of the terrorists every time, becase that's what the CIAs job is? Please. Its the police's job to catch criminals right? So why haven't ALL the criminals been sent to jail yet? Same concept.

      October 26, 2012 at 11:36 am | Reply
      • TeaTime4Bonzo

        You mitigate based on your risk. A police force in a civil society will, of course, be subjected to surprise. If you are in the middle of chaos, you have counter measures in place, If this type of action against us is a surprise then we have no perception of how bad our foreign policy is under this administration.

        October 26, 2012 at 11:42 am |
      • Wow...

        So by mitigating risk, as you put it...What if they were responding to a bigger issue where the deaths of those in the consulate were minor compared to what they were stopping? I'm not suggesting that the lives of those in the consulate weren't worth it, but think about your statement and realize that there may have been bigger things going on. The attack could have been a distraction for something much, much worse. Our shadow men could have stopped that quietly and without incident.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
  57. TimeForChange

    Quoted from another poster:
    Mr. Panetta's comment, "You don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on" is total BS! I spent 10 years in the US Army (Cavalry units) and know that any military unit would have responded to the call that our US Embassy is under attack immediately! The military units in that area (Marines, Army, Special Ops) would have a "Quick Reaction Force" on standby for such emergencies. If they didn't, shame on the senior military leadership. If a military commander had come out and asked the QRF or any company of troops, "The US Embassy is under attack and that's all we know, right now. Does anyone want to go to their aid??, I guarantee every hand would have went up. The notion that we can't send the military into harms way without knowing "all the facts" is such a lie. Soldiers routinely go into battle without knowing the complete situation. That's the nature of the job.

    October 26, 2012 at 10:13 am | Reply
    • ohreally

      A quick reaction force from the CIA annex a mile away was sent to help the ambassador and others at the consulate. It eventually returned to the annex with all of the survivors and Sean Smith, a State Department official who had been killed, but not with Ambassador Stevens.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:16 am | Reply
    • Disgusted

      It seems that any forces (QRF or otherwise) were not at a state of readiness to be able to respond, which is a crime based on the threat in the region. Three requests for support were denied, and the Special Ops team at Sigonella received a stand down order. Laser sighting from the rooftop of the CIA annex facility were trained to the mortar launch site, air support could have taken them out. The Seals were killed by mortar shelling six hours and twenty minutes into this firefight. Americans need answers here- there is criminal disregard for the lives of the brave fallen Americans coming from this pathetic administration.

      October 26, 2012 at 11:39 am | Reply
    • ArmyStrong

      I'm a former soldier myself. 82nd. Lemme just say this for the record.

      It was a consulate. Not an Embassy.

      Still didn't hear?

      CONSULATE NOT EMBASSY. Everytime I hear some NeoCon scream about the "Embassy Attack" I just wanna slap them. It's a consulate. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      October 26, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Reply
  58. edrogati

    I will bow out here. Thanks for the info.

    October 26, 2012 at 10:12 am | Reply
  59. Jimmy

    very telling account from the father of one of our dead soldiers who met our Pres and Sec of State when the bodies were returned .... he tells a very different story than what our news sources tell us ... and he heard it directly from our Pres and Sec of State

    October 26, 2012 at 10:10 am | Reply
    • Fred

      great link.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:18 am | Reply
  60. Concerned Citizen

    So apparently Panetta and team were watching, but where is any indication of action, containment, staging?

    October 26, 2012 at 10:06 am | Reply
    • ohreally

      A quick reaction force from the CIA annex a mile away was sent to help the ambassador and others at the consulate. It eventually returned to the annex with all of the survivors and Sean Smith, a State Department official who had been killed, but not with Ambassador Stevens. Any other questions couch cowboy?

      October 26, 2012 at 10:13 am | Reply
      • single mom

        except the men from the CIA annex went against orders – twice they were told to stand down but went anyway. If Obama and Clinton wouldn't make sure an Ambassador was protected or send in troops when the consulate was clearly under attack, I'm guessing the rest of us Americans are SOL.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • Concerned Citizen

      Well then apparently they did put people into harms way. So is Panetta lying?

      October 26, 2012 at 10:15 am | Reply
      • ohreally

        CIA is not the military. You are pretty clueless.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • Concerned Citizen

      So you're saying no one was coordinating this at a higher level? Someone over both the military and the CIA?

      October 26, 2012 at 10:36 am | Reply
    • Concerned Citizen

      You're also saying that the CIA is willing to put their forces at risk, but not the military?

      October 26, 2012 at 10:37 am | Reply
      • Oh for the love of god...

        I'm not going to sit here and explain the various chains of command to you. I believe it's safe to say, that regardless of what information you're presented with, nothing will satisfy you. Let me go ahead and just say this so maybe you will go away.


        Happy now? Go back into the living room and color. Maybe this time your picture will make it onto the fridge. Not likely though, because elephants aren't orange you idiot.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  61. Frangible

    In related news, when explaining why he hadn't shown up for work in the last month, Secretary Panetta explained that after updating his iPhone with the latest iOS and Apple Maps, he couldn't be certain of the driving directions so decided not to do anything at all.

    After all, no one had ever driven before they could get directions on their iPhone, just like no one had ever supported and protected their own in spite of the fog of war.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:49 am | Reply
    • ohreally

      Now that's an ignorant analogy. Yea lets send in troops to an unknown situation, so we can tenfold dead, instead of four. Yea that would be a great way to run our military.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:55 am | Reply
      • ThinkingOutLoud

        Think about it: they had a live video feed. Remember the circling drone? How much more info. do you need? Besides, wouldn't a competent commander already have some idea of what was going on? Remember the ambassador's memo traffic? His pleas for help?

        A note to CNN: if you don't want to lose even more market share, you'd better start digging deeper and reporting more objectively.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:02 am |
      • Jackfrost

        A little action within 7 hours might have bee reasonable other than sitting on our fingers while we watch peiople die.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:08 am |
      • ohreally

        They had a video feed that showed buildings on fire and that was all. We send in troops and they get ambushed and more die as a result and you clowns will be saying, Why did you send in troops, before you knew the situation. You have no clue what you are talking about.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:08 am |
  62. NoTags

    Most of the posts on this forum have been nothing but Monday morning quarterbacking. I wonder how many posters have actually read and understand the emails that have been released, none I suspect.

    Just for the record, the first email was time stamped 4:05 PM on September 11, 2012 and stated;

    "Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support."

    Does there seem to be a sense of urgency in this email? No! Was there any message such as; send help, send help now, etc. NO! From this email I would have assumed that the support the 17th of February militia was providing was sufficient, since the email didn't indicate otherwise.

    The second email was time stamped 4:54 PM on September 11, 2012 and stated;

    "SBU Embassy Tripoli reports the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi has stopped and the compound has been cleared. A response team is on site attempting to locate COM personnel."

    Be mindful that this attack per the emails was begun and over with in 49 minutes. Anyone who has ever been in the military or other government service knows full well that you cannot access a situation and provide a response in 49 minutes.

    From this article, Panetta stated regarding the drone overhead; "looking down, seeing a bunch of buildings and fires, a lot of chaos on the ground." At that point, the drone just cannot start an engagement since the drone operators would not have known who to engage. If the drone had engaged people and happened to target 17th of February militia who were attempting to provide security the situation could have been worse than it is now.

    The death of Americans, whether on the battlefield, in an Embassy, Consulate or otherwise should never be used for political purposes.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:43 am | Reply
    • TimeForChange

      Can you believe none of these limp wristed lefties like panetta, dempsey or obama are condemning an attack on sovereign US territory?? This is who is protecting America??? Are you kidding me? And panetta is still mentioning the video.....What a joke the dems are....

      October 26, 2012 at 9:51 am | Reply
      • Hahahahahahahahha

        What's your solution tough boy!!!! Hahahahahahahhahaha

        October 26, 2012 at 9:53 am |
      • ohreally

        Go enlist tough guy and show them how it's done. You are another couch sitting loudmouth. Who would p e e his pants at the first sign of gunfire.

        October 26, 2012 at 9:53 am |
      • ILoveAmerica

        Ya ohreally, youa re a real tough guy arent you? You are just like obama blaming america for these murders....arent you? You are just worried that if obama loses, which he will, you wont get your food stamps anymore....get out of your moms basement and get a job. I would pee my pants would I?? I am in security, fired and been fired at several limp wristed lousy dems are not fit to protect America......this proves it....and its out there for everyone to see...which they are starting to see how pathetic this admin is...

        October 26, 2012 at 11:11 am |
      • Putz

        Hey look, an internet tough guy. You're in security, eh? Sweet. How many martial arts do you know? I'm a democrat. I've never taken unemployment or food stamps, I expect nothing to be handed to me, but I'm not a hateful person and believe helping out my fellow man. This is a hard concept for you, it seems. Being a decent human being is tough sometimes.

        PS: I also own my own home. Two, actually.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • Walter

      Absolutely right...this is the best we can expect. Unfortunately, the manner in which we have all been given information does not cause one to believe we are being told everything. So, how does one determine what is and is not accurate. Not everything comes in over emails and this is just an indication that more people knew something was going on when we are led to believe they did not. It is the bigger and broader picture as well as the good information and the misinformation that we need to know and it will not come willingly or cleanly. So, expect more questioning- not less.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:53 am | Reply
      • ohreally

        The only problem with the manner we are getting information is the right wing trying to drum up a scandal that doesn't exist.

        October 26, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • SickandTiredof being SIckandTired

      Excuse me sir, but how do you think they were supposed to send follow up cables if the place is being ransacked and burned. "Oh wait, Mr Terrorist...I need to send another cable saying we are still under attack..." Give it a rest. There are protocols in place when comms go dark. Nice diatribe though.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:09 am | Reply
  63. JAB62

    I love how the repubs are still jumping all over this like it was 9/11. Its not. Not even close. You should know all about intelligence failures.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:41 am | Reply
    • Dave

      The dems screw up and you blame the republicans? Do you work for the current administration?

      October 26, 2012 at 9:46 am | Reply
    • Walter

      Hmmm...Nixon, Watergate....bumbling idiots get caught trying to find out election strategy and get caught breaking into an office. No deaths, no American soil being taken over...Living through the politics after that election and what it caused th country to go through ...Yeah...this is no 9/11 in New York but it is certainly more than Watergate as well. Wonder if you remember that...wonder if this president will not only emulate Carter as to his poor performance and execution of the office but will also lead us into a second term such as Nixons. Won't that resolve all our national issues. This needs to be dug into as deeply and quickly as possible- not something that lingers and grows. PS: The ability to do what was done only tells people we are vulnerable- positive reinforcement to keep trying for the BIG prize over here.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:59 am | Reply
      • ohreally

        Nice rambling incoherent ridiculous statement. Thanks for your efforts.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:01 am |
    • Cleopatra

      This is NOT about partisanship! Conscientious Americans expect our government to make smart intelligent decisions. The British had left; the consulate had been attacked twice since April; the officials in Benghazi had warned the area was becoming unstable; the Ambassador had sent his concerns about the security issues more than once, and in spite of all the violence the security team was recalled.

      So it isn't Republicans making this a big deal. It is a big deal. It appears that what you are saying is that we should only be concerned with an attack of the magnitude of 9/11. The critical questions that need to be asked are being asked by people who hold our political representatives - you know, those folks that really do WORK FOR US - accountable. And it doesn't matter what part affiliation they represent. This situation calls for questions about the decision-making of those involved, and since we are still a free society, we still get to question those.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:32 am | Reply
    • Perko

      One second here. Can we all agree on the following since they all seem to have come to the medias attention?
      4 Americans lose thier lives:
      Our "leaders" lied about the reason (which I believe everyone could agree was NOT a video) that they these Americans were attacked:
      The Ambassador's requests for additional security were ignored:
      A rapid response team could have been deployed to possibly aid these Americans within the attacks time lines:

      Am I to understand that some of the posts here are to suggest that Chris Stevens somehow KNEW that the compound would be attacked on 9/11 yet those above his pay grade did not? Common sense people, please, for the sack of future generations do more than let others tell you what/when and how to think.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Reply
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    October 26, 2012 at 9:41 am | Reply
  65. jvance

    We got burned by this one, that's all there is to it. Now let's try to figure out what went wrong to reduce the chances of it happening again.
    None of the people involved were incompetent fools or anti-patriotic milksops. They're serious and devoted to their jobs and the country. We take them to task when things go wrong and send them back out there to fix it. Let them, and make them, do their jobs. A series of congressional hearings with grandstanding back-benchers trying for their 15 minutes on CSPAN is a waste.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:39 am | Reply
  66. JesterX

    All of these critiques stem from the absurd notion that the administration deliberately left U.S. personnel to die. Even the complete cynics would have to speculate on the political expediency of the Obama admin doing so in the middle of a hotly contested election – if politics was his sole motivation. And all this talk of knowing threats were imminient is complete bunk. If they were true and Chris Stevens knew about them, why would he be at the far less protected consulate in Bhengazi, which was little more than a private home, then at the main embassy in Tripoli? It was HIS life at stake!

    This is little more than a political witchhunt by irrational, conserves who think they can use it to damage this President. And it's pathetic.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:38 am | Reply
    • SickandTiredof being SIckandTired

      "And all this talk of knowing threats were imminient is complete bunk."

      See this is where the media fails people like you. And CNN is the one who found the diary. And the knowledge of imminent attack WAS well known. Look at the evidence NOT being reported by mainstream media. I feel sorry for you not being intelligent enough to do your own research. If you had listened to even a portion of Charlene Lamb's testimony you would not have made the above statement. But because you get your info instead from the mainstream media who does report all the facts for some reason you are unknowledgeable. Please keep your uninformed opinions to have no credibility since you are uninformed.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:04 am | Reply
      • JesterX

        Then inform me and answer the question . . . why would Chris Stevens, if he KNEW of the pending threats, if he knew his bosses had pulled his desperately needed security, why would he be at the less protected consulate instead of the more fortified main embassy in Tripoli??? It was HIS life at stake! You think he gave his life so a bunch of rabid conserves, with little more regard for this admin than the terrorists themselves, could use his death against Obama?!!

        October 26, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • Big Mike

      While I am not ready to accept that the inaction of the Administration was deliberate, I am prepared to accept that they were – as they have been in almost every situation they've faced in the past 3 1/2 years – clueless about what to do. Tus, the result – the death of 4 Americans and the first loss of a US Ambasssador i over 30 years – was the same, bad intent or not. What do you expect from a bunch of amatuers? Training for the most powerful, complex job in the world consisted of serving as a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER?! A few years as a state and later US Senator, most of that time devoted to campaigning for the next job? Look up the term "feckless" and you'll understand why our people died.

      October 26, 2012 at 10:08 am | Reply
      • JesterX

        Name ONE other situation of where this administration was clueless of what to do?

        Bearing in mind that no President is an expert at everything they're in charge of. And why they have to rely on professionals trained in their fields for support. Obama being a community organizer is irrelevant. He didn't hire a bunch of community organizers to be in charge of the security in Bhenghazi. He had trained personell.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • GRMNO

      So why the reference to the video? Why the confusing response from the White House and State Department. Are they afraid this is a stark reminder that the long fight against terrorism is far from over and Al Qaida is not on its heels. .

      October 26, 2012 at 10:24 am | Reply
      • JesterX

        Umm, it's just a guess but maybe their response was confusing because they were confused?

        October 26, 2012 at 10:28 am |
  67. Concerned Citizen

    You've got to be kidding. Is it not the responsibility of the military to put themselves in harm's way to protect US citizens? There is no life and death situation where you will have all the facts in advance. That is what the military is for; to put themselves between us and them.
    Can you imagine if the local police–who's responsibility it is to protect us locally–came out and said such a thing? Can you imagine them saying we didn't even come to the shopping mall even though there was a shooter because we didn't have enough information and we didn't want to put one of our local cops in harm's way? What a bunch of BALONEY.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:32 am | Reply
    • ohreally

      Oh really? is that what the military is for? Let me know when you enlist and you can lead at the front of the troops into battle. You are a ridiculous fool who is as clueless as you are ignorant.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:40 am | Reply
      • Concerned Citizen

        If they aren't there to protect US citizens, then why are they there?

        October 26, 2012 at 9:41 am |
    • TimeForChange

      Wow, you really got it right, can you believe he said we didnt want to put troops in harms way?? What are they there for??? so dont want to put troops at risk but let the ambassador burn? The "official" also said forces are usually positioned near to where there are threats, well, didn the ambassador and others ask for extra security days before? Why werent forces positioned?
      Panetta, Dempsey and especially obama have to go........

      October 26, 2012 at 9:44 am | Reply
      • ohreally

        You never send troops into an unknown situation, just like we don't send cops into an unknown situation. (see school shootings where cops wait to go in until they know what is going on.) All that does is get more people killed. Thank god you and the concerned clown don't lead men into battle.

        October 26, 2012 at 9:51 am |
    • Concerned Citizen

      That's interesting, because it appears the military didn't even show up to the area. There was no staging or containment.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:55 am | Reply
      • ohreally

        A quick reaction force from the CIA annex a mile away was sent to help the ambassador and others at the consulate. It eventually returned to the annex with all of the survivors and Sean Smith, a State Department official who had been killed, but not with Ambassador Stevens.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:15 am |
  68. Fubarobama

    Panetta give it a break about the freaken movie.. You lead with this bs.. And Obama calls Romnt the BS er.. Face it this administration blew it. On 9/10 alerts and extra forces should have been deployed and the message should have been" shoot to kill if our sovereign ground is attacked". This admin position is take a bullet for the good ol USAband we will get back to you in a couple weeks

    October 26, 2012 at 9:31 am | Reply
  69. ThisisGreat!

    Pimentto, get on your knees and take Obama's arrows- atta boy. Proud of yourself? We can't deploy the military to defend american civilians, during a possible terrorist attach BECAUSE we don't want to put the military in harms way!! This is a Jimmy Carter throwback concept, but 10 times worse. I can't beleive this man, who should be intelligent would allow himself to be used as a dart board- for this bum in the white house.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:26 am | Reply
  70. JimfromBham

    All these people who speculate that we could have done something to effectively interfere or intervene with the attack on the consulate are nuts. I've been in some of the units in the XVIII Corps who might be on alert for a mission – you couldn't even get the C-130 or choppers loaded by the time the attack occurred and it was over. Real time intel only helps if you have a context to understand it, and sufficient time to react to it.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:25 am | Reply
    • edrogati

      Thanks for the perspective from experience, Jim. How far away were any troops that could have responded? Why does it take so long to load up? I'm an admittedly clueless civilian that's watched too many movies and TV shows which depict the ability to have a quick response. Why is it not that way?

      October 26, 2012 at 9:33 am | Reply
      • Guest

        The nearest FAST company of Marines are stationed in Rota, Spain. They may be able to gear up quickly and gas up the planes, but what is the plan? We don't just drop 100 Marines in a foreign country without knowing what is going on!! Perhaps that's exactly what the enemy hopes for and they are ready and waiting. We don't send our men in blind! Why is that so hard to understand ? It took months of planning to send our Navy Seals into a foreign country to kill one person.

        October 26, 2012 at 9:42 am |
      • edrogati

        I'm responding to myself as I cannot respond to a Guest post for some reason.

        Thanks for the info on where the response force was. Why so far away? Or is that part of the issue? It would seem that there should have been more of a presence there to protect the Ambassador. Or would that have broadcast where he was even more?

        As I've said in other posts, I'm a civilian. I don't know how the military really operates. I get my impression of how things go from reading too many Tom Clancy novels. I'm not meaning to sound ignorant on purpose, but there's much that I don't know.

        All that I know for sure is that finger pointing seems a lot easier than finding out what really happened and doing something to prevent a repeat.

        October 26, 2012 at 9:48 am |
    • Fubarobama

      It's the 9/11 anniversary. You idiot.. Do you need a freaken banner out front of the white house to remind these keystone kops

      October 26, 2012 at 9:33 am | Reply
      • Common Sense?

        Fuborama – maybe you have missed. The sustained fighting was at a safe house no immunity, no privledges applied and since it was and intel sight no neon signs or Blackwater security to tell everyone it is there.

        October 26, 2012 at 9:40 am |
      • Fubarobama

        Your handle is an oxymoron ? This was a setup. He is the US ambassador who requested extra security and was denied. He obviously knew he was in danger if he is at a freaken safe house. You have as much common sense as my cat.

        October 26, 2012 at 9:46 am |
    • Guest

      We couldn't intervene when they were attacking us on our own soil back in 2001!!!! How are we supposed to intervene in a worn torn country where we have no military personnel.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:33 am | Reply
    • Paul Brinkley

      We let for American Die. With this logic firefighters should never going into a burning building to save live. Its nice to know that. I know my government are corwards. No Effort , not a finger liffted. The are no heros in this administration...

      October 26, 2012 at 9:39 am | Reply
      • Guest

        My nearest fire station is less than 5 miles from my house, not on the other side of the Mediterranean Sea!

        October 26, 2012 at 9:45 am |
    • Brad

      The problem, Jim, is there were many troops available within an hours transit time. Rota Spain? BS We have 3 carriers in the area. One of the groups I belonged to when I was in the Navy is ready 24/7 on the big boats for exacty such an issue. Got any idea how many Marines are on a carrier? Not to mention other types of other forces trained to deploy on the snap of the fingers.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:43 am | Reply
      • Putz

        Sure! Let's just call in some F-18s and air strike the area! You really have no concept of how the military works....It's mind numbing...It's even scarier that there are a BUNCH of you rejects running around smashing your swords into your shields. Thank the stars you people aren't in charge. Dropping bombs on all your problems wont make them go away.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • Paul

      New reports say you are sadly mistaken, but keep kissing bammys behind

      October 26, 2012 at 11:40 am | Reply
  71. Cougar6

    Mr. Panetta's comment, "You don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on" is total BS! I spent 10 years in the US Army (Cavalry units) and know that any military unit would have responded to the call that our US Embassy is under attack immediately! The military units in that area (Marines, Army, Special Ops) would have a "Quick Reaction Force" on standby for such emergencies. If they didn't, shame on the senior military leadership. If a military commander had come out and asked the QRF or any company of troops, "The US Embassy is under attack and that's all we know, right now. Does anyone want to go to their aid??, I guarantee every hand would have went up. The notion that we can't send the military into harms way without knowing "all the facts" is such a lie. Soldiers routinely go into battle without knowing the complete situation. That's the nature of the job.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:23 am | Reply
    • edrogati

      I agree, Cougar. There's something that I don't know and haven't yet gotten a good response on; how far away were the closest military units? If you don't know, that's OK. Just wondering if you did.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:36 am | Reply
    • FormerSpecOps

      Cougar, this was a very short, hours type of attack, not days. No quick reaction force, unless they were on alert, in a position close enough to get there within 2 hours, would have made a difference. And one thing is true about Panetta's statement, you do need to know what you're heading into. The people who could have provided the context were engaged, limiting their comms.

      Hindsight is 20:20 here. Give us an idea of just exactly HOW you would have responded if you were in charge in Libya?

      October 26, 2012 at 9:43 am | Reply
      • Cougar6

        My point was to disagree with Mr. Penetta's statement about not sending US forces into action without knowing "what's going on". US forces have always gone into harm's way with little or no intelligence. Last thing I read on operations in Afghanistan confirmed this, too. I didn't take a straw poll of my friends who are Marines, Ranger, and CAV, but I'm confident they would agree with me. I don't know if there was or wasn't any military forces in the area who could have responded quickly. I would like to know the answer to that question. How long would it have talked to get troops on the ground? How long would it have taken to get helicopter support to the embassy? How long would it have talked to get aircraft over the embassy? These are questions I would also like to know. But, to state "we don't send US forces into harm's way without knowing all the facts" is wrong – or the wrong policy.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:20 am |
      • FormerOperator

        Hey Cougar...We do go in knowing what is going on. For every team of operators moving in a city, they have satellite back up, drones, UAVs...the point is, we have a pretty decent idea of what is going on when we move on a target.

        Going in with no intel is the worst possible decision you could possibly make.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
  72. really

    The State Department official who made the final decision to reject requests for additional security gave sworn testimony before the Congressional investigation that budget constraints had no baring on the decision.
    Please let Obama take responsibility for once in his life and stop trying to blame others. It will help him grow as a person.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:15 am | Reply
  73. Dawn

    How can anyone defend this administration and 1)their response to the known threat of violence, 2) the response to the violence as it happened, and 3) the response after the attack? Are you kidding me? Someone forwarded me the Glen Beck telephone interview yesterday of Charles Woods, father of SEAL Tyrone Woods, and when I heard it, it made my blood boil! If we reelect this administration after all the lies, and failures of policies and leadership then it is a very sad statement of what we have become as a society.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:03 am | Reply
    • Vet guy

      We need Bush again cause obviously this was the work of Saddam Hussein we can invade Iraq again...I miss all the honesty and great handling of world affairs by Bush....I am sure Obama would just ignore a memo stating that Osama bin Ladin determined to attack the United States...

      October 26, 2012 at 9:26 am | Reply
      • Paul Brinkley

        This sort of response is childish. The Bush era is over. The simple fact is we left our citizens alone to defend for themselves. Not a finger was lifted. Nothing was tried. You are a coward for even making this statement.

        October 26, 2012 at 9:43 am |
    • The Overweight Luver

      Dawn, It's very easy to throw blame being a Monday morning quarterback. This administration has failed no more than Bush Administration which got this country involved in 2 wars, which have cost this country significantly more lives. Every life is precious so I am not downplaying the loss of these four lives, but nobody wants to discuss all the other lives lost because of an awful decision made by the Bush Adminsitration. He lied to his chief of staff to get buyin on the decision and that is obvisous as Bush's Chief of Staff and one of the Generals reporting to him have indicated that they would not vote for Romney because of the Bush influence in his campaign. Stop throwing the man under the bus because he is African American as you didnt do it in the past.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:41 am | Reply
      • Bo Anderson

        Overweight....You are just like 80% of the other idiots out there. Ask most black people who are not professionals and they will tell you that the only reason they are voting for our half ass president is because he is black. They know nothing of or could care about his policies. They are throwing him under the bus because of their ignorance.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:37 am |
      • ILoveAmerica

        The dems in congress voted to go to war with iraq........please remember that people before you spout your ignorant mouths..

        October 26, 2012 at 11:20 am |
  74. zaggs

    BTW, how much intel did US forces have for the Blackhawk Down situation? Not alot? Exactly.
    Good to know that Panetta is admitting the Obama administration left those men there to die.

    October 26, 2012 at 8:53 am | Reply
    • Guest

      You do know that 18 service members were killed in that battle, and 70 others wounded, some severely, don't you? Over 100 well trained men went in to capture 2 people. It was supposed to take about an hour, yet they were trapped there overnight. They were overrun by armed Somalis.

      Several uninformed people are here to push an agenda. You folks must be the type who shoot first, ask questions later. Your the type who have no skin in the game, your sons and daughters aren't serving in the military. Some of our kids are serving, and I'm going to vote for a consistent CIC. I'm voting for someone who considers the safety of the men and women who serve before making a decision to send them in to dangerous situations. It's terrible 4 Americans were killed. One presidential candidate is trying to turn it into a political opportunity–sad.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:21 am | Reply
      • outrage12

        Of course!!! When there's no defense in what this administration does wrong... blame Bush, why don't you!!! PLEASE!!!! Psssssss!!!!!!

        October 26, 2012 at 9:38 am |
      • Bo Anderson

        Guest...I findit hard to believe that you have an interest in this at all. 99% of the Military members and families that I know would not vote for that ass hole Obama ever. I got caught up in the hope / change thingy also. But as it seems, he has flat out lied to the country about the benghazi issue. great, he is a muslim liar....big shocker there. are a pathetic excuse for a military family.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:41 am |
      • ILoveAmerica

        Well your an idiot then.....who would vote for this inept admin again? I am white, had a brother and 2 nephews in the armed forces, voted for obama in 08, never would I vote for him again.......this was just the icing on the cake......failure of a president and now leaves Americans to die and lies to our faces? obama is an incopetent, unskilled, unexperienced joke....

        October 26, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • Ranger

      Kind of ironic, I was in Somalia on October 3rd 1993, and part of the raid. It is kind of a different senerio, isnā€™t it? Clinton (another demorat) left us hanging. Just saying. If it wasn't for Pakistan and there armor, I wonder if we would have made it out.

      October 26, 2012 at 9:38 am | Reply
      • edrogati

        Thank you for your service, Ranger.

        To you and any other service members on here, I apologize for the ignorance of my questions. I'm just trying to gather as much information as this type of environment allows.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:04 am |
      • ILoveAmerica

        Thank you Ranger. Dems/lefties are known to be weak on defense.....obama left Stevens and the others to be tortured and dragged through the streets...imagine the nightmare it must of been for them...the inept obama, panetta, hillary, dempsey could of sent help....even the sight of a chopper or fighter jet or AC130 may have deterred or stop the attack...we have ships right off the coast with marines.......but panetta says we dont put troops in harms way.....this guy along with obama should retire or be dismissed....

        October 26, 2012 at 11:49 am |
  75. zaggs

    BS. The State Department has about a hour's worth of what was then a live feed from the consulate. They had the intel. Also consider that by Panetta's standard no downed US flier would ever be rescued because of lack of intel.

    October 26, 2012 at 8:51 am | Reply
  76. westie

    Yet our idiot US Senators confirmed Panetta 100-0!

    October 26, 2012 at 8:49 am | Reply
  77. Willie12345

    If the consulate had been better protected and fortified, this wouldn't have happened. The requests were made and help was pledged for .......................... and Hillary/Obama didn't nothing. For Heaven's sake, it was 9/11.

    Even when it was known to be terrorist, the WH stock with it's phone video story. Where was the "INTELLIGENCE" that backed this claim ???? No where !!!!

    October 26, 2012 at 8:36 am | Reply
    • Angie2

      A Washington Post report states that the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Departmentā€™s Worldwide Security Protection program for the fiscal year 2013 budget. That number is well below the $2.15ā€‰billion requested by the Obama administration. They also cut the administrationā€™s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in 2011 and $331 million in 2012. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that the Republicansā€™ proposed cuts to her department would be ā€œdetrimental to Americaā€™s national security.ā€ Republicans rejected the warning and went ahead with the budget cuts.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:47 am | Reply
      • really

        So, are you saying that the Obama administration is unable to allocate resources? So you don't have all the money you asked for, you can still move security to the outpost that has been attacked twice already.
        Either way, the State Department official who made the final decision, gave sworn testimony that budget constraints had nothing to do with the security decision.
        Please try again.

        October 26, 2012 at 8:55 am |
      • zaggs

        Except A) that wasn't a cut (a cut is when you lower funding to below current funding.), they lowered the amount of increase. And B) Even if it were that would just mean that instead of having security in Barbados, France, Austria or England it could have been in Libya. Also they had the money to have security in Libya, the refused to allow them to stay.

        October 26, 2012 at 8:56 am |
      • really

        Exactly Zagg. A real manager is able to allocate resources where needed. Most don't find it that hard.

        October 26, 2012 at 8:58 am |
      • Paul

        Typical blame someone else, loser

        October 26, 2012 at 9:37 am |
      • Fubarobama

        Angie2. Get a freaken grip on reality.. Do police departments around the country make policing decision when emergencies or crisis situations occur with regard to budgetary impacts. You are nuts.. Perhaps if we could take back all the money that was spent coddling the delusional occupy wall street crowds last year we would had the
        Foresight to plan that attacks on 9/11 would be high on the list of probability

        October 26, 2012 at 9:41 am |
      • paratrooper_us

        Angie2 – Less than 2 weeks prior to 9/11, the Special Forces led detachment that was at the Embassy, was ordered to leave the Embassy. This is after numerous requests by both the Embassy and the Special Forces team. Hmmmm – let me think, what is one of the key things SF does – COLLECT INTELLIGENCE. The Administration was being told, by HIGHLY trained SF soldiers that this was an unsecured facility, and the occupants were in grave danger of an attack. The back wall of the Embassy was breached by a bomb in less than 90 days prior to 9/11. What more intelligence do you want? This Administration FAILED, and helped murder 4 American citizens.

        I think President Obama may have done this with cause. He figured that everyone will believe him, when he starts citing the YouTube video as the spark for "Protest", and this will again black the eye of this GREAT Nation for his Muslim Extremists associates and Socialists. What he did not count on, was the fact that not all are drones of Obama, and just follow him blindly with out questioning, unlike the majority of the liberal people do. We want accountability i both security and financially – unlike most of the liberals, who just want to spend and blame others for their mistakes and misfortune.

        This President kisses the butt of the Muslim Head of States, who for the most part consider Women 2nd class individuals, why would women in this country believe that he actually respects them?

        October 26, 2012 at 10:11 am |
      • Bo Anderson

        Angie...sit down and shut up. Thank you...that is much better.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:43 am |
      • ILoveAmerica

        Angie, you have been thouroughly debunked........p.s, obama has not passed a budget in 4 years, even the dems shot it another poster mentioned, obama panders to the muslim world, who treat women like slaves and chop their heads off if they dont want them anymore...yet not sure why women would vote for obama at all.....

        October 26, 2012 at 11:55 am |
      • TeaTime4Bonzo

        Yeah, well perhaps buying armored plated Chevy Volts is a waste of money to some conservatives. I guarantee you that they did not vote against real protection at embassies. Policy, not intelligence, policy of appeasement and corruption by this administration is the only cause of this tragedy.

        October 26, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
      • Angie2

        Bo Anderson, Thank you for not shutting up. I won $100 from my hubby. I bet him that many (mostly or all) guy would come out with insults and name calling. He didn't really believe me, but I showed him. Thanks guys, you are all such kind, sweet and friendly people. Again, Thank you all for helping me win my bet!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$

        October 27, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
    • A Sneaky Drone

      Beefing up security was requested for the Embassy, which is in Tripoli, the Consulate, which of course is in Benghazi, was the compound the Ambassador died at.

      October 26, 2012 at 11:58 am | Reply
  78. sflmom

    If there was no "real time" then why were there two drones flying over head? What about the emails that said they were under attack and sent directly to the situation room, state dept etc.
    Penetta I thought was a decent man but after this I can not say that anymore. This administration did nothing while the Ambassador and others were being attacked and killed. I heard the father of the ex-seal talk and it broke my heart, he described how cold the POTUS was to him, how Hillary told him that the video person will be prosecuted and how the VP said that " his son had a pair of cue balls"... is that what you would like to hear from your Pres. VP and Sec of state when your son is lying in a coffin next to you? After your son gave his life in trying to help others?
    Anyone that would agree with that kind of behavior may God help you because you have no soul.

    October 26, 2012 at 8:33 am | Reply
  79. michaelfury

    "A number of government investigations continue into what happened on the attack."

    Same as it ever was.

    October 26, 2012 at 8:12 am | Reply
  80. Walter

    Very sad. The worlds most powerful nation with the best cutting edge technology and we stand and do nothing. My nephew is in the marines and his parent, now knowing how long these people lived before losing their lives and our country doing nothing to save them has left them wondering how they would feel if one of those marines was their son. I never thught Massachusetts democrats would ever vote against their party but this entire incident has moved them to do so. It is fine for someone to say, I am responsible". So easy to do when there is no cost...there is no consequence but some votes. I wonder if it would be so easy if his daughter was one of these marines. Would it then not be 'optimal' or simply be a 'bump in the road'? This man should stay in his office and not speak. He hasn't the brains or heart to know how offensive he can be when it comes to human life.

    October 26, 2012 at 8:00 am | Reply
    • justsayin

      aw yes shades of the first 911 when the bin Laden family members were rushed out of our country for their protection by the Bush Admin. No one suffered under false pretenses from the Bush Admin. We only went into an unfunded war from false intelligence. How short and selective your memory is.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:27 am | Reply
      • Ranger

        Are you refering to Iraq? I recall being briefed about WMD's in Irag during the Clinton administration. So if if makes you feel better blame Bush. The funny thing is my briefings were before he ever took office.

        October 26, 2012 at 10:00 am |
  81. SickandTiredof being SickandTired

    That's what you get when you put a "lawyer,politician,professor" who's only prior experience was Clinton's chief of staff in charge of CIA, SECDEF, etc, under this incompetent president. CNN you are letting us down. You are supposed to be the "watchdogs of America". You are not fulfilling your responsibility to the American people to keep us informed.

    No "real time information"? Panetta kills terrorists all the with drones. The info they provide must be pretty good. C'mon CNN, get your head up!

    October 26, 2012 at 7:58 am | Reply
    • CanadianPOV

      The drone kill more women and children than terrorists. Perhaps the intelligence you speak of is not so good after all.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:18 am | Reply
      • chuck

        Drones have killed more civilians than bad you believe that? Show me the numbers. This is only a discussion because we are a nation and military that actaully cares about the civilian population where we are fighting. Get your head out of the sand.

        October 26, 2012 at 8:40 am |
  82. TONY

    Most of you on this post are Obama haters, and it is not his policy you hate it's just because he is black plain and simple. I wish some of you can just be honest and post your true feelings.

    October 26, 2012 at 7:53 am | Reply
    • SickandTiredof being SickandTired

      Race card?? Again? That won't be enough to save him on November 6th.....with or without the media's help.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:00 am | Reply
    • Walter

      Tony, it is time to grow up. To accept mediocrity in any person because of skin color is to belittle every person of every skin color with exceptional talent. I will grant you skin color will be a motivating factor for some as it appears to be for you but how dare you accuse everyone who finds fault with a persons performance as a hater. I would be most irresponsible if I allowed your broad racist stroke to get in the way of me calling it as I see it. But good try.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:16 am | Reply
    • sflmom

      I wil be happy to post my true feelings.. I am angry about this Libya situation and the response from this administration.
      I do not believe that the most powerful nation in the world does not have the intelligence needed.
      If this administration had sent in the military to save our Ambassador, Obama would have won this election hands down. But because he was more worried about winning an election than the hearts of the people he now stands to lose the one thing he really wanted and that to me speaks volumes. Not very smart of him or his administration.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:40 am | Reply
    • chuck

      Thre response from SECDEF is BS...our uniformed military is both willing and ready to act with uncertainty, particularly when American lives are at stake. You put servicemen in harm's way to protect our interests – protecting our embassy personnel is a defininte interest!

      October 26, 2012 at 8:43 am | Reply
    • really

      Tony, the only reason you still support this failure is out of racial bias or white guilt.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:57 am | Reply
    • Bo Anderson

      Tony, I realise that if you had a brain, you would take it out and play with it. I voted for Obama the first time,it wasn't because he wasn't black, after all he is and the reason that I will not vote for him again isn't because he is black, it is because he is an incompetent idiot. You are entirely to weak minded to be involved in any discussion. So sit down and shut up. Turn your computer off and go play legos batman on xbox...

      October 26, 2012 at 10:48 am | Reply
  83. Carolina

    May I share please that my father was a diplomat and a military strategist. The recent tragedy in Benghazi deserves our focus, and I wish to thank Mr. Lawrence for his reporting. Leaders across aisles need to take responsibility for any mistakes that may have resulted in this tragedy. As our commander-in-chief, President Obama has a duty to set the proper tone and to communicate clearly. His decision not to postpone his trip to Las Vegas and to campaign on 9/12 saddened me. It was unsettling to see him in this type of posture the day after the attack. At times challenging our leaders' decisions and voicing our convictions is valuable. That's why I need to express my concern now over some remarks made by the official quoted in this article please. At one point he or she says, "We're not the fire department." Although he or she is attempting to illustrate a point about response time, let's keep in mind that Ambassador Stevens died as a result of a firestorm and smoke inhalation. How could he or she utter such a flippant-sounding statement on behalf of the Department? I trust this was not the official's intent. Thank you for taking my comment.

    October 26, 2012 at 7:51 am | Reply
    • myway

      Critics far less polite than you are attacking the administration on all fronts because of the tragedy that took place. Keep in mind, during moments of international crisis our citizens are supposed to stand by the CIC, not publicly criticizing him before all facts have been aired. You can't blame individuals in the administration being defensive in light of this mountain of unreasonable accusations. These public accusations and the resulting political fallout is more than the attackers could ever have hoped for. Let's not give them the satisfaction their attack was more successful than they expected. After all, these attackers are waging war against the US. In war you have to expect casualties.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:10 am | Reply
    • A Sneaky Drone

      Yeah, when the towers fell all I wanted to do was get the guys who did it. Almost 3000 American people died that day and not one person was screaming the next day about the lack of intelligence or blaming the president for not doing enough to protect our citizens, we were united as a nation, we should do the same here at least until all people responsible are held accountable and the proper investigation is concluded. It's very disheartening to see that people would rather play political football with this crisis than actually come together and fix the issue, find the parties who perpetrated this attack and leave the self criticism for when we have the complete picture

      October 26, 2012 at 11:53 am | Reply
      • TexasMom43

        Will you ever forget that day, 9-11? It will be seared in my memory forever. My instant gestalt was that it was an enemy hellbent on killing all INFIDELS. I didn't realize much about them, still locked in the old mindset that enemies are countries – this enemy is an ideology called Islam. It is what it is and certainly not a religion of peace. They have a history and it should tell us all we need to know – except we are no longer taught history these days.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
  84. Livelystone


    Accessing situations and making decisive decisions are what soldiers are trained to do

    Having to wait for a civilian 1000s of miles away to decide how to protect american lives and property is bad government and a recipe for a disaster.......... that is exactly what happened !

    October 26, 2012 at 7:49 am | Reply
  85. Ray

    I love Monday morning quaterbacks.

    October 26, 2012 at 7:44 am | Reply
  86. MN

    With Obama leaving the White House, the USA will start to become prosperous again and will finally have the leadership we deserve with Romney as our new President. Good Riddance for Obama and his cronies!

    October 26, 2012 at 7:41 am | Reply
    • TexasMom43

      Wouldn't it stand to reason that any PRUDENT government official would recognize the significance of the date – September 11th? That you would take extra measures on that date to protect a consulate anywhere in the ME?
      No, I guess not – we never even seemed to recognize the significance to muslims of building a mosque on the Ground Zero site of 9-11. We no longer know history, or facts, or other cultures and religions, much to our weakness.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Reply
  87. not2l84change

    President Obama failed miserably and dropped the ball, help was not sent and Americans died. Would those that are still praising our current President feel the same about him if the Americans that lost their lives were members of their own family? Would they feel the same if they knew that their loved ones had called for extra security and help and none was provided? Americans serving in other parts of the world should be very concerned, next time it might be them calling for help and they too may not receive it. Shame too on all those that are covering for our President, I don't know how they sleep at night. Time for real change and real leadership...Romney 2012!

    October 26, 2012 at 7:34 am | Reply
  88. Person

    This whole investigation is just another Whitewater or Fast & Furious–right-wing hollering about a non-issue in order to score election points.

    October 26, 2012 at 7:18 am | Reply
  89. rescue1250

    "Leave no man behind." I guess that is old hat. Just doesn't wash with modernism of leftist politics. Heroes rush in where fools fear to tread. I don't doubt that our Delta Force guys and Seal Teams are bristling with cowards in command. "Sorry I can't spend time rescuing you, I have a flight on AF ONE to Vegas already scheduled. Picking up some checks for my campaign." This had better be a landslide for Romney on Nov 6.

    October 26, 2012 at 7:13 am | Reply
    • Person

      All bravado and no brains, eh?

      October 26, 2012 at 7:18 am | Reply
      • zaggs

        Person, I guess firemen should wait until they know every single spot where the is a flame inside of a building before going in? If a US flier is downed no rescue operation should be launched without recon flyovers, intercepted communications and satellite passes?

        October 26, 2012 at 8:58 am |
  90. ObamaniaSatire

    Fire Panetta immediately for incompetence and unrelenting obfuscating.

    If the Pentagon did not know enough with their billion dollar budget, then they are incompetent or not on the job (as in spending more time in California than in D.C.).

    If they will not risk troups for saving an Ambassador and CIA Annex personnel, what will they risk troups forā€“ONLY for saving their jobs and political face?

    October 26, 2012 at 6:49 am | Reply
    • Arnold

      It seems to me that a lot of people with no understanding of intelligence operations and standard military practice are weighing in on this topic to score political points. Did Gov. Romney suspend his campaign on Sept. 12 to honor he dead? Nope. But Pres. Obama should have? And, this idea that through our military might we should be able to control the world down to street level decisions of terrorist cells residing in sovereign states is simply foolish and brash.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:32 am | Reply
      • Shocked and Amazed

        Arnold - Obama's JOB is commander-in-chief. Yes, he should have stayed in Washington. And frankly, he should have stayed up all night monitoring this attack. THAT's HIS JOB. He's not supposed to be a figurehead, he's supposed to be actively engaged in the business of running the government and as commander-in-chief. Your response is jawdropping.

        October 26, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
    • TexasMom43

      Firing Panetta is not the answer. Fire the entire government! State Department. Cia. FBI. etc. etc. Only natural born citizens, first requirement. Change the oath these people must take second requirement. Vetting in earnest with severe penalties on the "vetter" if you will, i.e. Nancy Pelosi "vetted" Obama in 2008.

      October 26, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Reply
  91. myway

    Common sense suggested all along what this piece says is accurate. If pieces of intelligence were reliable the original 9/11 and other attacks would have never happened during the Bush era. With all sorts of riots going on throughout the entire region it was too confusing and dangerous to intervene. If a premature intervention took place and even more US casualties occured all you screaming heads out there would be crying bloody murder even louder.

    October 26, 2012 at 6:42 am | Reply
    • Bob

      The question to the comment that he did not have information he could act on is "WHY NOT?". Assistance had been requested for months, but none was sent. If we get the answer to why help was not sent before September, I think everything else will fall into place. I think it was Obama's decision. I think there are a lot of loyal Democrats covering up for him.

      October 26, 2012 at 6:51 am | Reply
  92. rhubben

    My God, I am getting tired of being treated like an idiot. First that contemptible statement about the video, and now this? No real time information? Seriously? What about a constant stream of cell phone calls from Benghazi to the DS Command Center, families back home and God knows where else? Since when is a cell phone conversation not real time? Could you not have at least tried to evacuate the wounded?
    I don't care whether the election is ten days or ten years away, start telling the truth!

    October 26, 2012 at 6:18 am | Reply
    • myway

      So, you're one of those Monday morning quarterbacks Panetta was talking about.

      October 26, 2012 at 6:29 am | Reply
      • rhubben

        No, actually I am not a Monday morning quarterback.
        My son is still laying in a hospital bed because of this absolute failure of leadership; thus my comment about evacuating the wounded. My daughter-in-law got updates via cell phone from Benghazi that night, and she updated me as she did. You don't think that others were updated the same way, including the Diplomatic Security Command Center in Washington? You don't think that cell phones are real time?

        October 26, 2012 at 6:45 am |
      • aslex

        Monday morning quarterbacking? I don't think so. For the Secretary of Defense to say "You don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on," is ludicrous. Do you think those firefighters knew what was going on when they ran up the stairs of the WTC on 9/11? Do you think police officers know the details of what's going on when they enter a situation? Two prior bombings of that facility since April.... Several requests for additional security as a result.... I will leave the rest unsaid.

        October 26, 2012 at 6:46 am |
      • myway

        Perhaps your daughter should be in charge of US security overseas. Individual cell phone feeds do not qualify as reliable intelligence. They may be part of a bigger picture. In hind sight you know whether any piece of intelligence is reliable or not. In the moment you don't. That's what Monday morning quarterbacking is. It's second guessing based on knowledge that can only be had by looking backwards in time. If the US was as trigger happy on foreign soil as you imply, our bases would be subject to closure all over the planet caused by unhappy host countries, especially in that region.

        October 26, 2012 at 7:03 am |
      • rhubben

        Please allow me to correct a couple of misconceptions, myway.
        First, an American Consulate or Embassy is not foreign soil, it is American soil, and Americans have every right to defend it under treaty if the host country does not or cannot.
        Second, what makes you think a call from a State Department employee on a State Department Blackberry to a State Department command center is unofficial or unreliable?

        October 26, 2012 at 7:23 am |
      • myway

        Exactly what should happen here? Unless you have access to the same Blackberries and emails the State Dept and Pentagon had during those crucial hours, you have no way of knowing who knew what and when. That's why events surrounding the Benghazi attack are being investigated by several agencies and committees in DC. Until this case is closed, we're only fed bits and pieces, not enough to draw final conclusions. The only way to make a case with that is by using speculations and by making assumptions. Some of these pieces of information are taken out of context or planted in the public domain to score political points during a nasty election campaign.

        October 26, 2012 at 7:52 am |
      • SickandTiredof being SickandTired

        rhubben, praying for your son's rapid recovery. I am glad he survived. I pray the majority of the American public will wake up next month when they are standing in the voting booth. I hope they are able to get the information from our watchdog media so they can make a well informed decision about the fate of our nation and the lives of those who serve.

        October 26, 2012 at 8:09 am |
      • Fubarobama

        Myway you are a freaken left wing dolt.. Go move to Libya

        October 26, 2012 at 9:53 am |
      • Retired Vet

        I don't know about you, but when I was in Iraq and got into a few firefights, if you could even use a cell phone with all that adrenaline, chances are you weren't in a firefight. I would even go as far as to challenge that anyone with a cell phone able to give updates while bullets and rockets were flying around wouldn't be giving good intel anyways. 70% of the challenge in Iraq was figuring out just exactly from which direction we were being shot at in the first place, so I doubt that anyone with a cell phone is going to be able to tell you who is shooting, how many, in what direction, status of injured people and possible friendlies in the area.

        October 26, 2012 at 11:45 am |
      • TeaTime4Bonzo

        There are more eyewitness reports coming in evidencing a high degree of communication between the annex and consulate. There are also reports of orders given to stand down and ignore the attack.

        October 26, 2012 at 11:51 am |
      • ILoveAmerica

        And you are one of those weak minded fools that fall for the distractions of this pathetic admin.....just like obama who has no record to run on, and only answers serious questions with name calling and/or silly comments, panetta is trying (well not trying because lefties are so simple minded) to distract by calling everyone who disagrees (which is almost 80% of Americans) monday morning quarterbacks......scary times with these people running the country...

        October 26, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • JerseyGeorge

      Bush had real actionable intelligence in July 2001 before the 9/11 attacks and did absolutely nothing to prevent them.

      October 26, 2012 at 6:54 am | Reply
      • ShowMe

        This isn't about Bush.

        October 26, 2012 at 8:40 am |
    • edrogati

      Sir, I thank you and yours for what you all have done for the rest of us.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:19 am | Reply
    • edrogati

      Sir, I am trying to be supportive and respectful here, so please let me know if I'm not.

      If police and EMS can and will respond to 911 calls based on a small amount of information on a phone call (the nature of the emergency and the location), why cannot heavily armed American military personnel respond to a known location when called in by their colleagues? I cannot pretend to know what happened in Benghazi, but the reasons why a response wasn't quick in coming sound very hollow to me.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
    • outrage12

      Mr. Rhubben, my admiration to your son and my thanks for fighting for our beautiful US of A! – This current administration is merely a JOKE!

      October 26, 2012 at 9:49 am | Reply
  93. danny


    October 26, 2012 at 4:49 am | Reply
  94. Bill

    Interesting that the Obama administration still states that they had no actionable intelligence prior to Sept 11. We left Benghazi the last day of July, at that time things were quiet, yet within two weeks, rumors were rampant in the ex-pat business community that people needed to leave, something big was going to happen. There was a request for more security by the US gov't people in Libya. Actionable intelligence, nonsense, when you turn a blind eye and ear to a situation you are never going to have "Actionable Intelligence" until the action starts. Then to lie point blank to the American people after the incident, who is running the country? Donald Duck or Goofy? The spin, smoke and mirrors and the deflections and distractions being thrown up by this administration are consistent with their actions the last 4 years, we do not need 4 more of this type of governance. I specifically did not use the word leadership, because there has been none, leading from behind is an oxymoron, hmmm, word seems to fit.

    October 26, 2012 at 1:59 am | Reply
    • bud88

      hell ya man that so call obama gov. is a jock can want to mitt gets in

      October 26, 2012 at 6:07 am | Reply
    • myway

      Another Monday morning quarterback.

      October 26, 2012 at 6:32 am | Reply
    • Mary M

      I think it's interesting that CNN (the Communist News Network) has not been on this story! Is backing up the President. Where did real journalism go?

      October 26, 2012 at 6:42 am | Reply
      • myway

        It's all too obvious. All the real journalism has wandered off to Fox and only leftovers stayed behind. Just ask any Fox viewer. Fox has such good journalists, they do all the thinking and talking for you. No need to use your brain any longer.

        October 26, 2012 at 6:47 am |
    • realtalker

      First, rumors are not actionable intelligence. Secondly, tell me when Obama lied and specifically what the lie was and the video doesn't count because there were witnesses on the ground that actually said the attack was in response to the video. That isn't a lie. Tell me what lie he told the American people.

      October 26, 2012 at 8:27 am | Reply
      • outrage12

        That video CRAP again!!! Man, that is so old! HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH A VIDEO!! That's the reality! Obummer and his administration are murderers!

        October 26, 2012 at 9:54 am |
      • jrh0

        Umm... actually rumors DO generate actionable intelligence. What do you think Human Intelligence is? Its stuff somebody said. I'm not saying you conduct missions based on rumors (though occasonally you take that calculated gamble) but rumors must be at least examined and evaluated.

        October 26, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Willie12345

      But the INTELLIGENCE backing the video claims was SO SO So strong ??????

      October 26, 2012 at 8:38 am | Reply
      • Hmmm....

        It's the worst part of this mess. Our POTUS and his administration expect us to believe it was a Utube video. And all along they were lying. Obama just want to wait till he is in Office and then give the Executive Privelege to withhold information. You can get better news from BBC or Al Jazeera. Mainstream media in US is strong bias.

        October 26, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
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