By CNN's Tim Lister and Paul Cruickshank
The often fiercely political debate over who knew what - and when - about the September 11 assault on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi has taken another turn with the disclosure of a series of e-mails sent from the State Department on the night of the attack.
But the most explosive of the e-mails - which were released late Tuesday - may have been inaccurate, a "spot report" on a rapidly evolving and highly confusing situation.
The disclosure of the e-mail has given new life to the already fevered debate over when the Obama administration learned that the attack was more than a protest that turned deadly but was the work of terrorists.
The e-mail carried the subject line: "Update 2: Ansar al Sharia Claims Responsibility For Benghazi Attack." The message said: "Embassy Tripoli reports the group has claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli."
That message was sent to a wide range of federal offices, including the FBI, from the State Department at 6:07 p.m. ET on September 11 - seven minutes into September 12 in Libya. At that time, the attack on the consulate was ongoing, and the subsequent assault on the annex building, in which two more Americans would be killed, had not begun.
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Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, and two other Republicans in the Senate wrote Wednesday to Obama, saying: "These emails make clear that your Administration knew within two hours of the attack that it was a terrorist act and that Ansar al-Sharia, a Libyan militant group with links to Al-Qaeda, had claimed responsibility for it."
However, an examination of the known Facebook and Twitter accounts of Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi reveals no such claim of responsibility. Aaron Zelin, a research fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, tracks dozens of jihadist websites and archives much of what they say. He told CNN he was unaware of any such claim having been posted on the official Facebook page or Twitter feed of Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi.
Zelin, who said his RSS feed sends him any new statement from the group, provided CNN with a copy of that feed. It shows no Facebook update between September 8 and September 12, when a posting late that afternoon first referenced the attack. Zelin notes that the posting referred to a news conference the group had held earlier that day in Benghazi in which it denied any role in the assault on the consulate, while sympathizing with the attackers.
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Accompanying a posting of the news conference on YouTube, a commentary says that the attack on the consulate was "a wave of rage for Allah and his Prophet, it came from the Muslim youths."
The posting continues: "Ansar al-Sharia brigade did not officially participate as a military body, nor received any orders directed from the brigade."
The group's Twitter feed tells the same story. The account, @anssarelshariea, bears the group's logo and a tweet on September 8 - and then nothing until four days later. And at no point is there a claim of involvement in or responsibility for the attack on the U.S. Consulate compound.
Perhaps the person who reported the claim of responsibility - and the threat against the consulate - was viewing another Ansar al-Sharia site, or one supportive of the group.
In the hours following such incidents, it is not unusual for "spot reports" from agencies and overseas posts to pour in to the State Department. They typically include intercepts, what's picked up on social media, witness accounts and what's being said by local officials. They often contain raw, unfiltered information that is then analyzed for clues, patterns and contradictions.
In the case of the Benghazi attack, there were plenty of contradictions. Such situations are frequently chaotic, with claim and counter-claim by witnesses unsure of what happened when, according to U.S. officials. Building a complete picture without access to first-hand-accounts and little visual evidence can be a major challenge to government experts working from thousands of miles away.
So too have been the attempts to pin down who represents Ansar al-Shariah and their movements on the night of the attack.
Wings of Ansar al-Sharia, which means "partisans" or "supporters of Islamic law," are based not only in Benghazi but in the Libyan town of Derna, east of Benghazi. The group's leaders in Derna are thought to include Abu Sufyan bin Qumu, a former Guantanamo Bay detainee.
A different Ansar al-Sharia is affiliated with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula in Yemen, and budding franchises are said to exist in Tunisia, Morocco and Egypt.
As Zelin wrote last month in Foreign Policy, the groups "lack a unified command structure or even a bandleader like the central al Qaeda command....They are fighting in different lands using different means."
Wherever they may be, members of Ansar al-Shariah are united by a shared outlook, one that is implacably anti-Western and in favor of the imposition of Shariah law across the Muslim world.
The description on the Ansar al-Sharia (Benghazi) Twitter feed proclaims: "The goals of Ansar al-Sharia brigade is to implement the laws of Allah on the land, and reject the human implemented laws and earthly made constitutions. There will be nothing ruling in this country other than the laws of Allah."
Zelin said he believes that the rise of the groups heralds the end of the dominance of global jihad by a single hierarchical organization such as al Qaeda - and returns the state of jihad to the jumble that characterized it during the 1990s.
"One key difference, however, is that jihadi groups are now more ideologically homogenous," Zelin wrote in Foreign Policy.
"In the 1990s, jihadis thought locally and acted locally, while many now talk globally and act locally."
CNN's Pam Benson contributed to this report
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I still remember 911, by a bunch of Saudis, on Dubbya's watch, 9 full months after he organized a massive increase in defense spending. And then he flew his special rich Saudi banker friends out of the country, even while flights were suspended. No leaked emails yet as to why. . . .
And still Republicans want to blame the (BTW) black president for 4 dead, when they lost 3000 on US soil, and four times that in wars they started since.
Yes. Still waiting for Bush to take responsibility for that massive security failure.
Bush 3000+
Obama 4
Obama Biden 2012!
Peridot2...I believe your User Name is spelled incorrectly. It should be per-Idiot2. Your comment display exactly what I biased, head in the sand, fool that you are. You have my pity.
Enough of the history lesson. It's NOT going to distract from what happened in Libya. We're talking about OBAMA failing yet again so none of your smokescreens will work! Obama could and should be impeached – the sooner the better.
What normal President would hear that HIS representative in Libya had been murdered. and go off to FUNDRAISE in L.A. with his degenerate [rich] showbiz friends? Only Obama, folks; he's disgusting.
You and all the other idiots on the left forgot we where attacked on Sept 11, 2001. And you think when we went out to their little hideouts to take those monsters out of their ratholes they where just going to roll over and play dead. Unbelievable how the leftist in this country have made us so much more vulnerable and weaker as a country. Its a miracle we have not been attacked again under this Duffus' Administration. Or maybe we have not been attacked because the terrorist that want to destroy us know that with Obama as our President for 4 more years we will be well on our way to destruction.
I had at one time actually respected McCain. That is no longer the case. He has done nothing to improve conditions in this country in the areas of unemployment and the economy. The only thing he has done since Obama was elected has been to staunchly oppose anything Obama Administration has attempted to do. I am a disabled veteran and served this country for over 20 years before being medically retired. I find McCain's actions and behavior anything but "patriotic". I do not care how long he was a p.o.w.. His mouth has overloaded his backside too many times.
As Hillary Clinton said:
"Since when has it been part of American Patriotism to keep our mouths shut?"
"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
"Blind faith in leadership is NOT Patriotism"
I gather you're a sheep and you're certainly not Patriotic if you grudge people their freedom to speak
I am a registered Democrat and have voted for Clinton, Bush and I did not vote in the last election. I make this clear to show I vote not based on party affilate but what I think best. I am now in Afghanistan and have done 2 tours in Iraq. It is very sad as an American to see how uneducated some of you are and the lack of respect shown to the President. I have seen it all and most arabs who hate us don't care who is President. Most of you don't know who your state legislators are, how a bill is formed in congress, how lobbyist dominate our law making procedure and this is about your own country. Truly sad!!
If you have truly served, you'd realize that there is no excuse for such a security blunder as the one in Benghazi.
And, if you were nearly as educated as you infer to be by putting others down, you'd realize that your whole post is irrelevant. We are talking about an international policy disaster, not about who your legislator is.
Powerman – First, my sincere best wishes for your safety and health while serving our nation overseas – THANK YOU for your service. Based on your voting record, I can say that we wouldn't necessarily agree on candidates (and disagreement is normal), but I can agree without hesitation on your sentiments. It is very depressing to me how little the average American understands about the workings of our government – be it how bills come into existence and are passed into law, be it how a President is actually elected, or even be it the reason that concessions from both sides are required for a functioning system. I truly wish people would actually pay attention just a teency bit more in school and/or educate themselves if they didn't.
Thank you for your service Powerman
And as to Mr. N, if YOU served you would know that very little is certain in the immediate aftermath of an attack. That's why there are investigations.
Powerman You have to earn respect. Obama hasn't done that.
Nobody respectes a liar. Obama is a habitual liar
Everybody is educated enough to ask why the President went off fundraing to Vegas when HIS representative had just been murdered.
Admit it – you're just another boring Obama acolyte who'll cover for him no matter what. THAT is unintelligent!
I recommend that CNN bring together Benson, Kelly, Labott, Lister, and Cruickshank to discuss the contradictions between their two articles. The article by Lister and Cruickshank is a Red Herring response to the article by Benson, Kelly, and Labott. Also, there should be some discussion of why the article by Benson, Kelly, and Labott was a headline article on CNN last night but is not today. It remains the most important article on Benghazie to this date. Would any among Benson, Kelly, Labott, Lister, and Cruickshank care to comment?
Also, Soledad O'Brien might be included in the conversation, if she promises not to dominate it. Her video interview with a congressman on Wednesday produced information parallel to what is found in the article by Benson, Kelly, and Labott.
The controversy surrounding this is a bunch of B.S. being generated by anti-American Republicans and news organizations churning this B.S. to compete for Fox News viewers. Why would CNN or any other reputable news organization spend so much time and effort on this NON-STORY particularly since Obama immedidiatlely referred to the incident as "an act of terror".? If CNN and other news organizations had spent half as much time on what the Bush Administration knew before 9/11 of the plans to fly aircraft into the Twin Towers and the U.S. involvement in this tragedy on 9/11/01 WE NEVER WOULD HAVE INVADED IRAQ!!!! To get the real story in this regard from a CIA asset who worked for the CIA prior to 9/11/01 and after 9/11/01, go to YOU TUBE and enter in the YOU TUBE search field CIA asset Susan Lindauer Whistleblower.
Barry's minions are making every effort to paint over the tradgedy but hard questions remain – 1) why wasn't the embassy better protected given the recent attacks 2) who fabricated the video lie and decit ? 3) why wasn't any effort made to rescue the ambassador and 3 others ?
First off, the only anti american is obama...and his minions......he doesnt care to protect americans if muslims will be insulted....you lefties are really delusional....why dont you go ask obama to pass a budget which he hasnt done in 4 years, oh ya, not one democrat voted in favour.......obama failed here and left our ambassador to die.....you are in the minority of people that feel that way,....look at all the comments here....people are finally seeing obama for the failure he is........
Ha! Republicans. No wonder your canadaite is probably closer to being a democrat than a republican. It stings when you find out you are wrong, but I would figure you are use to it by now. You ideals have been on the wrong side from the revolutionary war, the civil war, to now just to name a few. Only way to get your news is if it is spun and doctored, becasue the facts do not work for you, and you are not patriotic enough to get all of the facts. Rpublicans = Joke. Slowly but surely you are moving more left and more left. Just compare your ideals of now and 50 years ago. Republicans = Joke
More far left spin from the good folks at CNN. Lamely attempting to support their man. 12 more days and this loser is history.
You should be watching fox news. Its always better to hear what you want to hear. Oh my God, the liberals are taking over the world!
enjoy your delusion
HOW DOES THE MEDIA allow this.
The President said "This has nothing to do with America, his administration, or its policies" THINK..why would he and his press sec say those exact words? For the same reason they chose to lie...they felt it hurt them so they pushed the video. Any unbiased person can see that. Cant you guys just do your job and stop trying to protect Obama? Its insane any Conservative can get elected with this horrible bias
Hurry, hurry damage control, try to divert the truth. Good Job CNN thanks!
Who gives a crap about the 3rd email.
Why is no one talking about the response to the first email? Dear President, what exactly did you do when the White House Situation Room recieved a report from the Embassy saying that the Region Security Officer reports that the Consulate in Bengazi is under attack by approximately 20 armed men, that explosions were heard, and that the situation was bad enough that the Ambassador was holed up in the consulate's Safe Haven. Who cares if it is terrorist or protestors?!?!? They were attacking the Embassy. I want to know why the President didn't clear his schedule, get his National Security Team engaged in using every resource possible to save our AMBASSADOR? Why wasn't the President LEADING the effort??? Perhaps the former communtiy organizer didn't realize it was his job to protect the highest ranking representative to the country of Libya. I want to know what he did and when he did it.
Why doesn't O get off the campaign trail and take a break from, in his own RollingStone interview words, Bull-s.....ing Hollywood, talk show viewers and the likes of Fluke, long enough to hold a press conference regarding what he knew and when he knew it? Might better put him under oath. We deserve truthful answers from the President!
Poor HIllary, having to stand by her man yet again. But his time she has company - Rice, Cutter, Psaki, etc......
Has anyone asked the question - could Ambassador Stevens have discovered some information that would have been damning to the O administration?
For all of you who knows exactly what happen, where you there? People lets allow the investigation to complete before we continue to throw our partisan opinion (nothing based on facts) out there. Who ever commited the act either of reaction to a movie or act of terror, probably think they have won because they have Americans divided not united. Lets be all stand together until we as Americans find out what happen and unite in the efforts to bring this person(s) to justice. GOD Bless You and GOD Bles the United State of America...
We know enough now to be sure that Barry and friends mislead the American people. If we wait until after the election then we have to go through the impeachment process. It is much more efficient to get out the truth now, the truth about what Barry knew and when he knew it. The Benghazie scandal is not going away.
Misled the American people because he didn't come to us with evidence from Facebook? Seriously? And because he addressed a video that was increasing tensions during the disaster? Can't wait til our intelligence agencies start relying on these message boards for info, especially you're posts.
The only thing you "know" is what I know. The truth does not matter to people like you. The only thing that does matter or is truth to you and those like you comes from a person with an (R) in front of their name. If it was raining and a Democrat said it was raining, you would undoubtedly say the sun was shining.
||what you think you know has been twisted by people who wish to make the death of 4 people a political 'gotcha' against the POTUS. If this happened a year from now, post election, then this would have been a blip on the nation's radar, and don't deny it. When the last US ambassador was killed in 1976, there was none of this uproar. The deaths of these 4 men are being used as political fodder by the Republicans because their candidate has nothing in the way of actual policy and instead just promises to make things better. Maybe, instead of making the deaths of 4 government servants in Libya an opportunity to crap on their memories by using them to take shots at the President, everyone should remember what really matters. 4 people are dead, and the ones that killed them are not in Washington, and given the fact that this President actually kills terrorists instead of just paying millions to imprison them, hopefully it will not be long before a Predator strike leaves them as dead as the 4 men they killed.
Sure are a lot of sock puppets making comments. Fact of the matter is no matter what, to some the only truth comes from people with an (R) in front of their name. The actual facts do not matter.
Only people that dont believe in facts are liberals....everyone knows that.....they are delusional, just like the Fort hood massacre was a "workplace Accident"......right lefties?
cripes you toad if you are going to try to slam someone for a comment, at least use the right phrasing.. your inability to do so shows you are not only ignorant, but do not have the capability to comprehend.. the phrase was "workplace violence". What a simple minded sock puppet.
I think all new channels should be wayyyyy more enthusiastic about making this a top story, with the election going on right now and Obama trying to be re-elected as president. All of his newly discovered lies involving the Benghazi cover up are just another way to show who we as Americans have representing us, I can only imagine the pain and frustration of the 2 Marine's families that were killed that day and then to have all of these lies and cover ups for his own political agenda!!!!! This just goes to show why we can't trust him in office for 4 more years. He will do anything to get re-elected including lying to the american people and the rest of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Move along, nothing to see here. Obama DID call it "an act of terror immediately. If you're looking for lies, just listen to Mitt Romney. His entire campaign is one BIG lie.
No – I think the bald face lie Obama told us for 2 weeks is the biggest lie. That and everything he promised 4 years ago that he couldn't do. I don't want him to lead and the more I hear and see Romney, why not make a change? Anything has to be better than Obama and his Administration, can't believe anything he says this time around.
They believe the administration is investigating it with competence and have asked the Republicans and Romney not to make it a political issue, but apparently the Republicans don't care.
It doesnt matter what you call the attack, it was an attack. The question is what did this admin do to respond to it? Why did they more or less do nothing to help save the Ambassador? Where is cnn investigative reporting? Sounds like political reasons to me.
These emails don't tell you when the president "knows" something. These are speculative. He should wait until his intelligence staff provides evidence and conclusions.This is an off target story
The much bigger issue is why the president didn't beef up security when requested by the embassy. There was ample evidence that the threat was growing and ample advance warning. Our investigative reporters are woefully inadequate.
Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, and two other Republicans in the Senate wrote Wednesday to Obama, saying: "These emails make clear that your Administration knew within two hours of the attack that it was a terrorist act and that Ansar al-Sharia, a Libyan militant group with links to Al-Qaeda, had claimed responsibility for it."
Obama could have definitely handled this better, no doubt, but I'd be more disappointed if our President took a Facebook/Twitter post as fact and jumped to conclusions without any supporting/concrete evidence as his challenger did in the middle of the disaster. Perhaps Facebook/Twitter style evidence convinced Bush of WMD's but I'm glad our intelligence agencies seem to be a little more thorough these days before rushing to conclusions as so many on the right have done. It's amazing how quickly they want messes cleaned up...
I don't care about the lies, I care that the admin left those people undefended for political appearance. That's what the resulting lies expose. But, for some reason, Obama fans can't see that...
So the fact that he lied about a video being the cause for 2 weeks doesn't bother you? It makes me sick to think this is the "Change" we got from Bush – just more of the same.
I think he did focus too much on the video. You say he lied about it, I say he was addressing the situation as they learned about what was going on. We don't know what all they knew yet. The fact that it was determined for sure later to be terror attack also doesn't change the fact that the video increased tensions. When that video received so much attention before he even began to discuss he, he couldn't ignore it, it had to be addressed.
People seem to love these lying Democratic Presidents, Bill Clinton disgraced the office of the President
with his lies and this whole Bengazi horrible attack looks like a cover up and CNN would rather talk
about Obama on Jay Leno !
@Bob: Left undefended for political appearance? Please explain that one... It's certainly done wonders for him politically. I'll take thoughtful diplomacy over knee-jerk reactions any day.
your name says it all...you want2believe that Obama was waiting for the evidence and all that good stuff. But i have news for you, the Embassy is considered US soil. The second that is attacked, BY ANYONE, its an attack on the US. Obama reacted poorly regardless of who initiated the attack and an ambassador died as a result. Thats what you want from our president?? He had 4 years and nothing has changed. BO is a celebrity and that why all the Libs love him. Give Romney a shot and if we get more of the same, vote him out too!!!
@ Ryan: I just want to point out for everyone that continues to make this mistake...our EMBASSY was not attacked. It was an attack on a CONSULATE–which is not the same.
Thanks.
This is just another example of how this administration covers everything up. We know of Fast and Furious, 9/11 and a lot of other cover-ups this administration is trying to hide. Just imagine all the things that are still in the shadows. Why would anyone respect or put their faith in these libral liars and cheaters? No one is perfect but there are many who are not so dark.
Obama should have just read "My Pet Goat" then they'd have nothing to complain about
Doubts just means more cover-up!! This all happened in real time !! The admin. cannot manipulate us into thinking we don't know what we saw ! And if we saw it, you know the state dept. saw and heard more ! Clinton can't use her condescending tone anymore and get results. It's a worn out ploy! And Obama who is screaming from the rooftops that he respects women sends Hilary out to take the fall for his incompetence, neglect, and self-serving deeds. Do these people really think we don't see through all of this???
You sound scared, angry and irrational – like the extreme right of the Republican party that now has become its voice. You create false realities and cling to them by ceating more false realities as you are proven wrong.
What false realities are you referring to? Four murdered Americans with a president and his administration saying it was because of a video?? Or maybe it's the reality that our president went to Las Vegas to attend a campaign rally the night these men were murdered? Or maybe it's that he went on multiple entertainment shows and laughed it up while the victiim's families and the country were mourning? You can call that whatever you want – but those are the realities. And dignity, decency, respect, and accountability are not partisan. They are humane.
Someone from the top of this admin has got to go.....
There are no doubts now. the only people doubting are Fixed News & Rush Windbaugh. EACH & EVERY SOLITARY TIME you guys throw out a lie Obama has PROVEN WITHOUT FAIL that it is a lie just like he will with this one. You should see if Trump can give you some of that 5 mill for a brain transplant. Obama/Biden 2012its a lock! YAWN!!!
I will cut the deficit in 1/2 in my first term.
Unemployment will be under 5 %
I will close qitmo
Mitt said he would not give government help to GM
Planned Parent hood gives mammograms
Obamacare will not raise taxes on the middle class
Bengazi was a protest to a youtube video
I can go on?
Amazing how CNN runs stories minimizing the Benghazi fiasco but never used its vast reporting abilities to actually investigate what the POTUS knew and whenhe knew it. Never reported the obviousness of the lies told by Obama, Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, Jay Carney et.al. . CNN doesn;t care about the truth. They care about minimizing the damage the truth may cause their man Obama.
You mean the way CNN didn't run headline stories about the e-mails when the news first broke? Oh wait, they did.
I guess what you are really complaining about is that unlike Fox News, CNN bothered to run the follow up story when it was discovered that the original story might not actually be true. Of course the real problem here is that ANYone ran the original story before bothering to find out if was true. At least CNN has enough journalistic integrity to follow through after the fact, for what good it's worth.
Oh come on now – the original source of information was Facebook and Twitter. Conflicting accounts came about afterwards and this administration has acted responsibly to determine what really happened.
But then again, voters that agree with you probably don't see a problem with people in costumes being shot at for being mistaken for a skunk – it was an honest mistake right?
I'm not even an American and comments like this really get under my skin. The rest of the world support President Obama vs. any trigger happy alternative that may send in the troops looking for WMDs again.
Ya you are right, The Ayatollahs in iran, ahmadinejad, hugo chavez, hassan nasrallah, muhammad omar all want obama re-elected....wonder why that is.............
No, what IS amazing is that CNN or any other reputable news organization would spend so much time and effort on this NON-STORY particularly since Obama immedidiatlely referred to the incident as "an act of terror". If CNN and other news organizations had spent half as much time on what the Bush Administration knew before 9/11 of the plans to fly aircraft into the Twin Towers and the U.S. involvement in this tragedy on 9/11/01 WE NEVER WOULD HAVE INVADED IRAQ!!!! To get the real story in this regard from a CIA asset who worked for the CIA prior to 9/11/01 and after 9/11/01, go to YOU TUBE and enter in the YOU TUBE search field CIA asset Susan Lindauer Whistleblower.
Yes, Obama mentioned "terroists" seven paragraphs after talking about the damn video. He was still taking about the video 6 days later on David Letterman.
You can't spin the fact that our Ambassador had requested additional security numerous times before the attack and was refused.
They were watching this attack live in the White House. They new this wasn't about a video. They were shooting mortars and RPGs.
President Obama has called a BEER SUMMIT in Rose Graden with all Liberal News Media to mislead American People for Benghazi Libya's Facts.
R u jealous that u were not invited for the beer.
Typical for republicans, shoot first, aim later.
Anyone that wants to aim before firing is hiding something.
Amazing how CNN runs stories minimizing the Benghazi fiasco but never used its vast reporting abilities to actually investigate what the POTUS knew and whenhe knew it. Never reported the obviousness of the lies told by Obama, Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, Jay Carney et.al. . CNN doesn;t care about the truth. They care about minimizing the damage the truth may cause their man Obama.
People like you deny the truth. To you the only truth comes from someone with an (R) in front of their name. Who the hell do you think you are kidding?
Obama is held to a completely different standard than any other recent president. There were over 10 embassy attacks under Bush AND 9/11 happened. Reagan, another beloved Republican President, had one of the worst foreign policy agendas but he is praised....
We are out of one war, starting to get out of another and we haven't been forced into another one. How is that not sucessful? Only one attack on an embassy in a WAR ZONE, and somehow Obama is the worst president in history and our country is in more danger than ever!
You miss the point. It's not about the attack at all, it's about why the administration felt the need to try and blame it on a Youtube video and call it a "spontaneous protest that led to violence." If they had just called it for what it was, especially knowing what it was, a terrorist attack, then none of this controversy would even be happening.
Years agao before most of these second guesser's were born things happened that people didn't even know about for weeks /months / maybe years – and you know what? The world still turned – what diffrence does any of this make to any average citizen? – are these people so important they need to know and have anything to contribute besides useless unsubstantiated BS ?
You are so right no the issue. I fear everything this administration does is a cover-up. No respect and no trust. They must be replaced in November.
Agreed Robert Jay
I don't support either one of these bozos and will vote for Gary Johnson just to make a statement.
But I don't see that this is such a big deal one way or the other.......
To RobertJay: They say ignorance is bliss. Cliche' I know, but if that's your stance on things why even read CNN or comment on here?
It matters because by saying it was as a result of a video infers that random protesters simply got out of hand and attacked, with very little warning. There's no way we could've been prepared. It also puts the blame on the creator of the video, rather than the attackers. However, if you call it a terrorist attack, that infers that this was a careful, thought out plan by a strong and growing terrorist organization. It makes us look incompetent. It also lets the American people know that terrorist are still a threat... and that "hey, maybe the President is doing a great of job as he should in that department". Yes, the President said we experienced "acts of terror". But for weeks, he and Clinton blamed it on this video. You can't have it both ways. It was either a protest that got out of hand, OR a terrorist attack. NOT both. Also, notice that he used "acts of terror". He didn't come out and say "terrorist attack". Those terms DO carry different weight.
Bush was attacked much more than President Obama has been. You are dillusional. During Bush's term, they even made a movie about his assasination.......where's THAT type of thing for President Obama?
Really Phil? I guess you've never heard of "2016: Obama’s America" one of the worst assemblages of lies and neocon vitriolic rhetoric ever produced and released to the public.
KW right on...but also now we are starting to wonder about how our CIC reacted as the attack was unfolding. Did he pull his team together quickly to try and understand what as happening and if there were any actions that could be taken immediately to protect American Lives and property.
You ahve so much time you can waste analyzing something you have absolutely no control over or any value added whatsoever. You are that important? Why aren't you working for the CIA / the Secret Service? /Foreign Intelligence
Agency( thats FIA for you afficeinadoes of course) – Maybe then you could direct us attacking some place like Mali or somewhere so we keep our war mongering momentum going?Get a life
RobertJay, how do you know what any of us do?
The problem is not setting Obama to a different standard. The biggest issue is that a US ambassador was murdered in the line of duty. This was the 6th time in our entire history that has happened and 5th time it was done by the hands of "Muslim Extremest"
Obama did come out and say "Acts of Terror" it is debatable about what he meant by that. How ever his press secretary repeatably said it was the result of the you tube video. It is obvious now that it was not the cause but a coordinated attack using mortar rounds. Obama's administration showed clear signs of weakness in handling this situation. He missed a golden opportunity to rally support for his administration by not taking this head on.
I live in Georgia as well. I thought I was the only person in this state that was not a brain dead sock puppet. Thanks for posting.
I live in Georgia also. I thought I was the only person in this state that was not a brain dead sock puppet. Thanks for posting. Gives me hope for this state.
This Particula News Media intentionally misleading Facts to Protect Obama and his Administration.
Typical CNN, I like to read their articles for the humor. Reminds me of TheOnion.
What happened to CNN? Maybe getting rid of Dobbs was the beginning of the end for them ( isn't Dobbs pretty even handed) So now we are supposed to ignore that Jay Carnay insisted that there was NOTHING to suggest terror or a attack motivated by U.S. policy or anti-American sentiment-just a video.. wow. Didn't make sense then and now that this comes out , CNN is just using the Obama spin. Wonder why it took the W.H. a day to respond? You would think a news organization would be offended by the cover-up. Look, even if you have doubts about the email, it definitely contradicts what Carnay was selling and BTW it turned out to be ACCURATE! No? Then why is the W.H. now conceding it was terror and how would this email claim it so soon after the attack unless it was involved. Whatever, CNN doesn't care and when you consider that they decided to defend Crowley by arguing that Obama spoke slowly and they used the same number of words. Wow. Infantile and shameless. Imaging a moderator at a high school debate "counting words" rather than watching time. Don't believe the promotion, CNN is just like MSNBC just not as entertaining and with LESS right of center voices ( Gergen? oh, please). This is why they have no one really watching and now they will soon be irrelevant when Romney wins despite their great effort to stop that.
Please, stop the pandering and spin for Obama. If you did your job and had just a tad bit of journalistic integrity, Obama would probably be on the road to impeachment by now. Instead, you just spin his lies, suppositions and conjecture. Shame on you!
totally agree, it doesn't matter who or when claims responsibility. The fact is the administration knew exactly what was going on and continues to lie to the country. The press is protecting the president.
Bingo, Troy. I can't believe there are critical thinkers posting at CNN! I might just have to come back more often.
Off topic: Anyone see the Sudanese factory get bombed, possibly by Israeli bombers? Craziness going on all over the world.
Lima-1, out.
Awesome post, I totally agree with this.
Thank youfor saying that Sarah. I was reading through these comments in disbelief. The WH knew the attack was coming and watched it Live on Drone TV. Killary Clinton took the blame to take the heat off Obama.
I think Romney would have done the same as Obama: nothing.
Lima-1, out.
Yes, we are under attack all over the world, and these horrible events do happen. BUT, someone more presidential (Romney, Reagan, Bush) would act more presidential not start jet-setting around the country going to fund raisers.
Even if he is not "evil" per say...we have a laissez faire president.
But hopefully, he is on his way out.
Rivka, you missed my point sir. Romney and Obama are the same candidate and would have done the same: nothing. They both will blindly protect Israel (and no, I'm not an anti-semite) and pro-AIPAC policies. I have plenty of proof if you'd like to see it.
But we must stop voting for the lesser of 2 evils.
Lima-1, out.
I totally agree. Look at all the posts. America is paying attention and CNN does'nt or refuses to see it. The facts are 7hours after the attack the Annex was attacked and Our president was silent and sent NO help. I do not care what the emails say or what your political pesuasion. Our leaders did NOTHING, not even an attempt to save the lives of Americans. They said we could not get in, but a CNN reporter walked into the compound and picked up the ambassadors diary, come on! Mr. President you should not be "appalled" when you are questioned but you should be "appalled" that 4 Americans died and you did not even try. Though the media refuses to address this story the way it should be covered Americans will decide on November 6th to send such inept ledership home.
So will obama release his records and get $5million from trump for charity? he cant refuse this or he will look like he has something to hide, which most Americans believe he does......Trump definitely knows something to put $5mill and his rep on the line....
did you mean Romney?
No it is 5 mil to Charity if he releases his college applications & records as well as his passport application. Trump doesn't think that although he needled Romney to release his tax records that Obama will release any of his.
He means Obama. Trump, in a sad grasp for relevance and legitimacy after being unable to prove his birther claims, needs something to ride on.
I see. but did Romney release his tax records for 10 years, something every other candidate has done in recent history? did anyone ask to see GW's or Mitt's school records? how about saint Reagan's school records? why the double standard for the black man???
JTC, Trump is a billionaire, he doesnt need to grasp for anything....
How about this...Trump should give 5 million to the charity of Romney's choice IF he release his tax records...sounds good, huh??? It is clear that Republicans have gotten a bit desperate...desparate people do desparare things...pathetic!!!!
You idiot. He released 10 years of his tax records already. Now i know why you are for Obama/Biden. its because you have no brain.
Stop speculating in the name of Americans! Who said that most Americans believe the President is lying about his birhplace?!!! Maybe you dream too much about it at night hence the delusional statements...get a grip people...those regions are the most volatile regions of the world, no logic exists there...bad things happen and when you work for the U.S. government in those places you know the risk...I am sure that the President, if he had known and had had the time to react would have saved the Ambassador but then who says the complications wouldn't have been worse had the President sent troops to rescue? Let's not forget what happened in Somalia with President Clinton...It is easy to use this instance for political gain based on speculations but you loose credibility in the process. Romney is no different in foreign policy than the President as we saw in the last debate (he was basically repeating what the President was saying).
Do you think you and your colleagues could dig deeper on Benghazi!!! There is a lot going on with this story...gun running, lying to Americans, Obama strong arming Hilary Clinton, US funded weapons in the hands of Jihadists...if you even care about our Country...get to work!!!! You are a gifted, talented journalists...serve this Country...now!!!!
The mythology that Al Qaeda has been dealt a deadly blow by Obama will continue.Today's NYT even speaks of the prospecti of pretty softer counterterrorism efforts by the U.S based on such claims.It appears the ultimate counterterrorism weapon for the U.S is to redefine terrorism as something else and not bother about it too much.Orwell will be proud of this development.
John McCain only distinctiion is he got captured by the enemy. Now he's getting his intel from Facebook and Twitter?...and as it turns out, that didnt happen either. Repugnicans, lowest common denominator.....
Ha! Either read the article and post something intelligent, or stop trolling around looking for an argument. Must be bored on your couch today huh?
So now CNN is declaring there was no attack and that 4 US officials were not killed. I am glad they cleared that up. It is great that our heros are actually still alive. Yea!
It is sad how partisan BS completely muddies every discussion about every issue so that there can be no voice of reason at all. It's just shouting, name calling and pointing fingers in an attempt to discredit every little thing any US president does in the name of party. Both Republicans and Democrats make me want to puke...
I agree with you, but as of right now I am more disappointed in Republicans.
I just don't like Obama's name calling – and he needs to tell us what is he going to do for the next 4 years – if he gets in. I am very disappointed in what little he has done the last 4 years. I am ready to give anyone a chance besides him and the last straw has been this benghazi lie from the Obama Administration.
Hmmm. Look up the number of filibusters these past 4 years and who have been the backbone for these filibusters. That is what gives me the incentive to vote for Obama. Also what can Obama do when Republicans are the ones telling Obama to go screw himself?
Well if obama cannot work with both parties then he should not be president......besides, he hasnt even passed a budget in 4 years because the DEMS shot it down..........not one vote.......so basically he cant work with either party, should not be president.
I am god: Why do we want a President that is a liar in front of the whole world – UN, TV, Campaign etc? I just expected him to have more dignity than to lie straight faced to the American people. I thought that was the change we were looking for 4 years ago.
That excuse is only good for 2 years, during the financial collapse he chose to focus on ACA for the first 2 years. Mean while jobs were being destroyed, we had a trillion dollar shovel ready project that was supposed to stop the unemployment free fall. You can blame republican congress yet in 2010 the direction of POTUS should have changed. Instead he attempted to force his policies at congress rather then work with them.
What a bunch of racist posts. The right has blamed Obama for everything they can think of and lots made up. Can't even get history right Call him a fascist and it was conservative govts in Europe and here that were fascist lovers. Conservatives have been and always will be the downfall of the govt of this world because their only interest is big business and how govt policy can help them.
If this were Bush, this'd be Watergate coverage. What hypocrits at CNN and the mainstream media.
Obama is held to a completely different standard than any other recent president. There were over 10 embassy attacks under Bush AND 9/11 happened. Reagan, another beloved Republican President, had one of the worst foreign policy agendas but he is praised....
Only one attack on an embassy in a WAR ZONE, and somehow Obama is the worst president and our country is in more danger than ever!
How do people not see this?
Obama is held to the standard of every other President. The fact that he lied for 2 weeks after the attack when he didn't have to say anything but they were investigating would have been better than a utube video excuse. I don't expect anyone to even run after this F&F, and now Benghazi lie. He didn't have to tell the Utube story -HE CHOSE TO. Obama chose to lie, even at the UN, Rice on every morning show she could, Obama on Letterman and theView.
What I continue to ask is one question. If the situation had been deteriorating around the Bengazi mission(just an office building) why were the staff not relocated to the EMBASSY in Tripoli?
So what does all this mean? That we'd be safer with aRepublican president.Who was in charge on 9/11/2001 when we were attacked on our own mainland. Where was the security and intelligence then? Suffering from Romneysia?
Easily duped
tax happy
anti military
Traitor
A liar
Corrupt Union member
lack common sense
no morals or values
ur a Democrat
Easily duped
spend happy
anti-middle class
anti-women
anti-anyone's who's not a white, christian male
Traitor
A liar
Corrupt corporate executive
lack common sense
no morals or values
ur a Republican
We paid millions to restructure and solve the intelligence to protect the US. It worked under GW Bush but apparently not under President Obama.
so why have we been safe for the last 4 yrs? how did Obama find and order the killings of the heads of Al Queda? how have we thwarted numerous terror attemots within our borders and elsewhere? one attack in a country was friendly to us but in a turmoil does not show an inability to keep us safe!!!!! sure, everything looks clear in hindsight, but hindsight is not reality. sometimes a trajedy is just a trajedy.
Yeah, what a breakdown in intelligence, bin Laden must have shot himself.
A tragedy – yes. But lieing about it when Obama didn't have to – not a leader. Why would he be so stupid and then when he gets in office just like Fast & Furious he'll pull the executive privelege and pretend it didn't happen. Obama expects us to just shut up and take his BS – again
CNN=obama's PRAVDA
When this story broke, it was TOP PAGE news at CNN. This article, which discounts the original story, is buried.
How is CNN (corporate-run media) anything but ROMNEY PROPAGANDA, you RIGHT WING SOUTHERN ASSSHOLE?
Actually this controversy was NOT top page news on CNN for almost 2 weeks after the attacks. They would put out small stories, downplay the Administration's actions and statements, then hide the story within a few hours. FOXNEWS was the only media outlet that truly covered what was being said. If you think CNN is in any way pulling for Romney/Ryan, then you must be high.
Ah......Personal insults.....alynski much?
I can see that you trade in the coin of the liberal realm, insults. You're depth is breathtaking.
*your
Try to get Faux News to open a comment section. It won't happen because they would be blasted by people who know better. Er...........I guess that would mean everyone but a republican! Hahahahahahhaha
Funny, FoxNews is the most watched news channel on cable. Ofcourse CNN is going to try and downplay the emails, their poster boy is losing.
Aaron I couldn't agree with you more! Cheers!
Hey Araon and KW. Don't recall local polls being nationwide polls. Fail.
Who said anything about polls?
Fox news has better ratings then CNN, so what are you talking about? And when they did have a comments section, they were usually 85% right leaning........so what are you talking about?
Really what are we doing there anyway. Its just bait for the bad guys. If you are going to put an outpost in the middle of a city of hatred then you should have a strategic plan to suppress an assault and gain fire superiority. These state department operatives should be working regularly with our Marine Guards to conduct fire and maneuver every day as part of their work in those regions. There should be armed Drones continuously circling these embassies situated in these non-permissive environments and QRF's within minutes reach.
Its like does anyone really know what is happening to the minds of our troops in those furthest outposts in Afghanistan?
you are wrong. the citizens of that city and many in Libya like America and really loved the ambassador. they took to the streets to show their support for us against these murderers.
Amen... could not have said it better. That k you
Imagine not reporting facebook posts and made up twitter claims as facts on the until confirmed by intelligence sources.... OMG must be a coverup!.. McCain needs to just shut up as his credability keeps getting lower trying to pin this all on Obama.... He is still bitter over losing and should not be reference for his opinion cause it is inherintly biasedmm shocker !
I can see some of these people on here don't care about the deaths of those American citizens. They are just pulling zingers out of their a@#%s to support Mitt Romney at all costs. It is sad and pathetic that we have extremists on the blog, who's only mission is to bash Obama for no reason. The president isn't God, he doesn't have control of everything nor does he know everything that is going on in the government.
Just for the record, during the Bush administrations reign we had attacks on U.S. embassies, compounds or consulates in India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Usbekistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Greece, Yemen, and Turkey with a total of 60 deaths attributed to these attacks.
During the Obama administration reign there have been attacks on U.S. embassies or consulates in Pakistan, Egypt, Libya and Yemen with a total of 26 deaths attributed to these attacks.
For whatever reason I don't recall Bush being blamed for the attacks on U.S. embassies or consulates although there were twice as many attacks and deaths from these attacks during his years in office. These are facts that Republicans tend to forget except in election years.
res ipsa loquitur
He didn't LIE about them, sir! He didn't blame anything on a 2-bit, nobody film producer, and put them in solitary confinement! There's a big difference. The MSM would never have let him get away with lying about it for 2 weeks! ESPECIALLY IF THERE WERE E-MAILS TO BACK THEM UP! This story is being burried as best it can be by the Media, and the VIEW, and all the suck up "info-tainment" shows that NEED Mr. Obama to win, in order to save face for such baseless pandering, and scare tactics.
Exactly
oh please! Obama has not lied about anything regarding this attack. he called it terror right away, he didn't apologize for that moronic movie but did acknowledge that it angered many people throughout the world. it is treason for lawmakers and candidates to attack the commander in chief in the days after a terror attack (that's what everyone said after 9/11). the facts are not in, the intelligence is not all vetted and the actions by the GOP regarding this are treasonous. they even released the names of Libyans who are helping us, ensuring their deaths.
Anyone remember Pat Tillman?!!!
you have absolutely no evidence of a cover up, in fact the evidence points the the contrary; a stable and rational foreign policy. Not shoot from the hip politics. To call the president a liar used to be a very serious accusation indeed, now these fair-weather patriot republicans will say just about anything to smear and defame the president. It's sickening.
MikeFrye stop spreading propaganda. Everyone knows already that Obama didn't blame the videos for the terrorist attacks, he did blame the video on the violent protests occurring in Egypt, Sudan, and other places. Get a clue troll.
You must not have a TV, brother! Not only did Mr. Obama say it several times, his Secretary of State said it, his UN Ambassador said it. That's the propoganda.
MikeFrye you are one f23535ked up individual. Get an education please. You completely failed to understand anything those individuals stated. You do realize that Rice stated that at the moment it seemed like a violent protest related to the video? Did you also realize she stated that she didn't know all the information yet, but it was being investigated? No you didn't, because you are a Fox News drone who would rather follow your extreme ideologies because you failed to get an education in high school.
I'm going to assume by "Rice" you are referring to our UN Ambassador, Ms. Rice. And in so assuming, I doubt she was in the White House Situation Room with the people of this administration who were watching this happen. Thus, she performed her job, and toed the Administration's line. You have learned well at the feet of the Master, Grasshopper. If you do not have a valid response, curse me out, call me uneducated, thus raising the appearance of your intellect.
MikeFrye your propagandist comments just proves how uneducated you really are. You got your education from a failed media network called Fox News who claim to tell the truth. Hows that report coming on a pill to cure racism? Guess where that came from? Oh, yea, Fox News.
Republicans find denial and story telling to be their best bet
The denial is only coming from one direction, if I'm not mistaken, here. I'm certainly not denying anything, nor am I making up a story. Keep trying guys. So far, I have not seen a single argument from Democrats that has not boiled down to name calling, and belittleing. That is such forward thinking.
What do these "doubts" matter. So, for a month, Obama is hiding behind a lie that intel supported the movie over the terrorist attack. Now, with an email that mentions terrorists in the following hours, we are to believe that Obama checked it out, saw it was a facebook post (separate of the intel community) and determined it was no good. The Intel says it was terrorists. It does not mentione the rest. What a load.
If someone called in a bomb threat (whether real or not) at a school the police, FBI and bomb squad would be there in 3 min. Where was the protection for our 4 Americans when they susspected a terrorist attack?
You are actually being serious? The police, FBI, bomb squad being called to a local neighborhood vs. a sovereign country on the other side of the world... 3 minutes? I take it you have never called the police... SHEESH!
So let me get this straight. The problem everyone seems to have with Obama is that he blamed this on a video based on verifiable protests going on in Libya, Egypt and Yemen because of the video rather than immediately calling it a terrorist attack based on a social media claim by an untrustworthy group that specializes in misleading and manipulation that come to find out was never posted on social media to begin with. Sound about right?
And the numerous real-time requests for additional security, that were denied by the State Department. And the continuous spinning by the WH – now trying to discredit emails that were sent from the consulate. Got it now?
No. Not immediate. Weeks later he was still peddling lies when he had evidence to the contrary while the attack was in progress....
Sound about right?
No. Doesn't "sound about right"...
The problem everyone seems to have with Obama is that he blamed this on a video-Which was bull and they knew it
based on verifiable protests going on in Libya, Egypt and Yemen–Of course they can verify it..it happened...why did it happen? because of a video? who incited these people? they all got on youtube and watched this video? you got to be kidding me.
because of the video–NOT because of the video
rather than immediately calling it a terrorist attack based on a social media claim–WE FOUND THIS OUT YESTERDAY...Why didn't we know on Sept 12th?
The social media item did not appear magically on Obama's desk but was forwarded from intelligence operatives in Libya. It turns out that the writer of the social media post was a terrorist reporting in real time during the attack. He is in jail in Tunisia now. Why is that not a headline right now? Don't believe me? Read the following:
US Intel believes some Benghazi attackers tied to al Qaeda in Iraq
By Suzanne Kelly, Pam Benson and Elise Labott
(Google it.) After you read it, ask CNN why they took it down. It was a headline post last night. It is the first piece of journalism that has addressed what we need to know now, namely, what did Barry friends know, when did they know it, and what decisions did they make. You will find that nothing in the article shows Barry and friends in an attractive light.
Yeah, McCain and you guys are slime balls. Go play in traffic
I think McCain would know how horrible it is to be left – he was a POW in Vietnam and still suffers from his ordeal. He is a Veteran and thinks about those serving our country. It is a dis-service what Obama has done to our country and treating Americans like we can't think for ourselves, expecting us to just accept his lies.
Meanwhile Someone thought enough to Send a drone over the consulate....WHO called for the Drone ? and Why ? and what did the Drone see ? emails are one thing..but an eye on the situation Watching in Real Time is quite another...The attack lasted over 7 Hours and no Help was sent...( just a drone watching from overhead )..Where did the Drone come from ? What other Military assests were there as well ? and why were they not called upon ?There is a person somewhere who may have at least some answers to all this...The Pilot of the Drone...How does the Pilot feel after watching fellow Americans who were left to Die for some unknown political reason...while the Drone he flew just circled overhead .
From what I read in the emails, the 1st one was sent at 4:05 PM on September 11, 2012 stating;
"Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support."
2nd one was sent at 4:54 PM on September 11, 2012 stating; "SBU Embassy Tripoli reports the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi has stopped and the compound has been cleared. A response team is on site attempting to locate COM personnel."
from 4:05 to 4:54 is 49 minutes. Where do you get the 7 hour figure? Source please?
Hey Jim Walton, CNN head of World wide news. Since your leaving at the end of the year. Maybe you could ask your staff to have some journalistic integrity and actually try to be the credible news source it once was? This lack of reporting the facts and desire to be a propaganda tool is just sleazy...i always thought CNN would do its homework, be fair and balanced, but mostly seek the truth. Jim, its not the ratings you have failed at.. its the sleaze have let into the news room!
This is the problem, CNN paints a picture of Obama being the best thing ever, instead of PUTTING all the facts out there, that is why America is uninformed. TELL THE TRUTH and stop being biased. This is about AMERICA, not who CNN is rooting for. PLEASE tell the truth, this is a very critical election.
The problem is that when facts ARE given your side doesn't like them so they ignore them and complain that no facts are given. Grow up.
Funny, they're not doubting the authenticity of the e-mails.....like they were just a bunch of SPAM! They're questioning the reliability of one tiny portion of one e-mail. So......if they had just said "HELP. UNDER ATTACK. NO INTERNET ACCESS. DON'T KNOW WHO'S ATTACKING US!" That would somehow have made a difference?
Will someone please explain to me the big deal about calling it one thing or another? Seriously, it totally f'ing ridiculous.
Who cares what it is called. This is the problem with American politics. Our elected officials have to spend so much time on what something is called or classified as and it get in the way of them doing their job.
If our POTUS is intentionally misleading us, trying to convince us that there is no more war on terror and his apology tours worked and we can all sing campfire songs and get along now ...but it's all smoke and mirrors, that's a BIG deal.
CNN–how come big headline yesterday, very little line link today. Thus, yet another inaccuracy the President has to counter with 12 days to go. Why no big headline today??!!
CNN is becoming a joke. They have lost all credibility.
I can't believe Americans do not care that four people died. The consulate represents America, those people were attacking America. Wake up.. no one wants or likes what happened, but it does deserve the America's attention. If we allow these acts and blame it on ourselves our enemies get bolder, not kinder
Wh is everyone trying to blame Obama.When we wrre attacked on 9/11/2001 –mainland America-nobody blamed Bush for lack of security and intelligence. We stood together as Americans until the Tea Party dividers came along.
The hair-splitters and gnat-strainers are out in force (in the comments, here), having their perpetual man-periods because Obama said "acts of terror," instead of "act of terror."
the only blood is the blood on Obama's hands.....really a video caused this? and you ok to be lied to as an American?
No Fredsta, that is not what most of the comments here are saying. Most comments are wondering why the Obama Regime promoted a story-line that was not the truth, and that insurmountable evidence shows that Obama KNEW was not the truth.
Don't let your political leanings blind you to the facts, this is not about democrat or republican, conservative or liberal, its about the truth, the whole truth. Just watch Obama at the UN, watch Rice on TV, ask why the guy who made the video sits in jail, ask why no special ops. forces where sent to help US citizens!
Oh NO! We can't possibly be sure what the people who were being ATTACKED were telling us? They're 2nd e-mail was based on social media? That would insane to trust those folks – and who can argue with them now? It's not like those 4 souls can come back and dispute ANYTHING this WH says now! Did they wake up the next day and say "Those e-mails were from THOSE guys? Those were the same guys in the drone video? HUH!" This is nearly a crime.
Dear CNN , you are just not in the "credible news business" ..you have officially become a reality TV show for Obama...What a sleazy network you have become...truth hurts.
jorge true you are right coverup and spin to save obama
Clinton laughs in the video...death must be funny to her. There was no rush on that night to save these guys and now there's no rush to get more lies out to the people. The Dems need time to polish up their lies.
Reading this blog makes me fear for my sanity sometimes. There seems to be no fundamental difference between some folks here and those violent, possessed terrorists.
C'mon McCain. You know better than that how this works. One report of a claim of responsiility that wasn't even on the official account of the group doesn't prove anything. And the next day they were saying the opposite. False claims of this nature happen all the time. It would have been the height of naivete and irresponsibility to base an assessment entirely on one posting. And since McCain is neither naive nor irresponsible generally, I have to presume this is pure politics and thus crap.
Chill it's not the one claim standing alone here, there were several indications in the Ambassador's reports and requests that tie into this, the reports of mortar's being used! How many mobs (Which again WERE NOT REPORTED by any EYEWITNESSES as they were videoing from their phones and uploading to YouTube themselves!!!!) carry Soviet built Mortars with their signs? Al Jazeera is more accurate than our Administration or CNN! And you do not find that sad? This is not even an intelligent misdirection. The truth will come out because we have Americans still there and these cables, emails and the fact that a drone was diverted over the scene and live feeds were directed.
This article is focusing on the wrong part of the Benghazi story. It matters little what group claimed responsibility for this attack and when. What matters is that the emails in question were sent to the White House Situation Room 2 hours after the attack began. That means that everyone who was in the White House at that time knew what was happening. This is evidenced by the fact that Special Operators were sent to Benghazi but put on stand-by; military aircraft were moved from Northern to Southern Italy (a mere 480 miles from Benghazi); and a team of Marines was sent to Tripoli but never sent into Benghazi. Meanwhile, the Ambassador and his security team were still alive and holed up at an outpost 1km from the Consulate. It wasn't until 5 hours later that the Ambassador and his security team were killed by mortar fire at the outpost, all while those in the White House Situation Room watched this unfold, real-time, from a feed from an unarmed Predator Drone positioned above Benghazi. This is the real scandal. Those in the White House knew what was happening in real-time, yet did nothing to respond and potentially save the life of the still-alive Ambassador and security team. To add injury to insult, the President of the United States woke up the next morning, boarded Air Force One, and took off for a fundraiser in Nevada. I've heard this compared to Watergate, but this makes Watergate look like child's play. Lives were potentially needlessly lost in Benghazi, and someone needs to be held accountable for that.
You are Soo Right , It's about getting Help to these 4 Americans and They sat and
Watched and Did Nothing ! This says to All of the Middle East Go Ahead Kill our people We'll Watch !! So sad these men were waiting for help to come and No One came ! Makes us know how Safe our Americans are overseas Fighting ! They are Not ! If I had a Child overseas I'd be Worried !
Common people. It's not the President's job to micromanage what's going on at every embassy in the world. It was up to the State Department and the Special Ops forces on how to proceed. Stop calling Obama a liar. Oh no! He withheld information for a couple of days! Oh no! Yea, have you ever watched a police investigation? I've rarely heard them say "We've just four minutes ago found information showing Tom Jones was the murderer! Please transmit this on all stations so that he can get a head start and take off running". That's not how an investigation works, and it's that kind of knee jerk reaction that landed us in Iraq.
This is not about the withholding of information, or even about putting out false information (the video meme). This is about being the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, having unlimited resources at your disposal to potentially save the life of a group of individuals who you put in harms way by appointing an Ambassador to Libya, and doing nothing. This in no way compares to a police investigation. A decision was made not to use the assets in place to attempt to save the lives of American citizens under attack by enemy combatants. Just as the Commander-in-Chief gets credit for giving the "Go" on the operation to capture/kill Osama bin Laden, he too gets the blame for not giving the "Go" to attempt to save the Ambassador and his security team.
thank you for being rational!
Wow Lew, you make a lot of statements as if they are fact. Are you getting all your precise timelines and logistics directly from a friend at Langley...or perhaps FOX News?
This is where I see the inconsistency. If the Administration felt that the claim by the terrorist organization was false – they took it seriously enough to send marines to the Embassy in Tripoli. That act, in itself, shows that on 9/12/12 – they believed that this was a terrorist attack. Regardless of how this eventually plays out – on 9/12/12 – they believed it was a terrorist attack – which is not the same as "an act of terror".
Do you think you and your colleagues could dig deeper on Benghazi!!! There is a lot going on with this story...gun running, lying to Americans, Obama strong arming Hilary Clinton, US funded weapons in the hands of Jihadists...if you even care about our Country...get to work!!!! You are a gifted, talented journalists...serve this Country...now!
Yeah CNN do Your JOB!!!!!!!!NOW
Bingo ! People need to go to Drudge or Reuters if they don't like Drudge and find out the Truth !
Sorry Reuters took it Off ! Image That !
Went to Reuthers Sorry Reuters took it Off ! Image That !
Or go to Reuters
I truly believe that Obama knew more than he's saying. He hoped the real truth wouldn't come out before election day. People deserve to know the truth. Where was our president when all this was taking place? Why wasn't something done to help those guys? Even the Dems should be wondering about that instead of trying to make excuses. Is that how little those poor guys lives are worth to the Dems. The news agencies who aren't demanding an explanation are pretty sad too.
obama was too busy packing for vegas, watching football, on the phone with JZ and Beyonce while there was still time to save the ambassador.....this is an embarrassment for America and this administration......imagine the nightmare poor Stevens and the others went through......help could of been sent in time.........its time for obama to go.....
Apparently McCain the warrior has a foggy memory about the Fog of War.
Obama blamed a video for 8 days that had nothing to do with it????? With lives lost I would call that a person that is a "heinous" liar...nice president
You need to go to DRUDGE and get the Truth ,
Since when does the government share confidential information? We now know that Bush knew of the upcoming attack in NYC and did nothing about it. But, that took 5 years to acquire.
The "must read" article that CNN published last night but seems to have under wraps today can be found here:
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/24/us-intel-believes-some-benghazi-attackers-tied-to-al-qaeda-in-iraq/
How the Bengazi story is unfolding continues to be a tragic statement on the decay of the American press and indeed points to the eventual collapse of our great country.
The press-outside of Fox and Drudge-acts as a propaganda machine for the Obama administration. Similar to the best of state run media mouth pieces of China, Russia, and Nazi germany the American press attacks the truth and alters the dialog to suit the agenda of the Obama regime.
The reality is the Obama regime willingly mislead the American public, at the UN and repeatedly on national TV, to prevent the fact that in Libya and North Africa anarchy reigns and terrorist are taking root due to Obama's polices.
Deep American decay can be witnessed when the "fall guy" who made some video sits in jail and the press does not question if the real reason why this is to show the rest of the world we do not tolerate free speech.
Please if you are a liberal don't hate on me, but instead ask the question as to why Obama got in front of the UN and pitched a falsehood. Ask why US UN Secretary Rice repeated the same falsehood over and over again. Ask why the feds imprisoned a guy for a minor parole violation and why he is still awaiting trial. And ask if our country can exist when a press acts not as instruments of truth but as biased propagandists...
The Dude
you are so correct.. this is not about politics....Hey America it does not matter your political biases..... As Americans you can NOT look the other way and allow a series of lie's from our most important officials....CNN you have failed the journalistic integrity test again...why? don't you want to be a credible news source.. it is clear to any intelligent viewer your motives...and that stinks
Well said! It is sad that our one last hope for freedom and independence is fading away.
Very well said...we have become a cult of personality
My friend, if you think Fox and Drudge are not propagandists then you are an absolute fool. I will agree that the producer of the film should not have been arrested but that's because he posed no danger to society. But our country does that all the time. He's a victim of a bigger, unrelated problem. You put yourself in the public spotlight and someone is going to notice if you are breaking the rules and indeed he was in violation of his parole. As for Rice, she made it very clear that they were going only on preliminary information and at this point with the facts that we have, there is no indication that the video didn't have anything to do with the motivation behind the attack. Witnesses on site even claimed that the group WAS doing it in response to the video and the administration has said from day 1 that it was an act of Terror. I don't have all of the answers on this, you don't have all of the answers on this and we won't for some time now. Investigations into matters such as these take time. We didn't have all of the answers for some time after 9/11 or after the 93 attack or after any embassy attack. If this happened 2 years ago it wouldn't even be an issue. No one would even be bringing up now except perhaps breifly in a foreign policy discussion. Your conspiracy theories are rediculous. This was a tragic event that like most tragic events could have been prevented but wasn't because we didn't have the benefit of hindsight.
Why isn't CNN or other major media challenging Obama on this? why hasn't Obama answered the question directly how they lied about the blaming the video??? See CNN u are NOT the most trusted news.....u don't have to be a rep or dem...just an American to see this...it is disgusting CNN!! DO YOUR JOB!!!!!!!!!
So i guess if terrorists dont claim responsibility for attacks on social media we cannot take any attack to that of a terrorist...geezus CNN...come on
You missed the point of this article. The article isn't saying that the attack wasn't a terrorist attack. All the article is saying is that their is evidence that the e-mails that came out the other day that said a specific group claimed responsibility for the attack, were in fact not accurate.
Imagine CNN spinning it this way. The powers that be came up with this, "Ok, lets say that the e-mails may be doubtful because ....hmmm....hmmmm......how about we go with "you can't really trust e-mails from eyewitnesses because they don't really know what they see until weeks later. Oh, and don't call them terrorists, call them ....ummm....hmmm....a group of repressed young men who happened to have AK-47s and RPGs in the trunk of their camels. Remind the viewers that they were out on a picnic when one of them downloaded a video from you-tube and then they got a little out of control. Poor misunderstood jihadists." Everyone in the room gives a round of applause, each secretly thinking, "HA,those saps that watch this network are just dumb enough to swallow this foul fish whole. Allah, I love America. OOps, I meant Obama, I love Americal."
Hey, call Joe BIden and ask for some more of that kool-aid he is donating for your parties, CNN.
You missed the point of this article. The article isn't saying that the attack wasn't a terrorist attack. All the article is saying is that their is evidence that the e-mails that came out the other day that said a specific group claimed responsibility for the attack, were in fact not accurate.
Mike in MN,
I think you are missing a point as well. The headline and article is specifically skewed towards an Obama campaign damage control slant. The e-mails are just physical evidence for what has been known and underreported. The campaign/WH came out blaming a video when evidence was to the contrary. They didn't say "We're not sure" they said it was the video, even going to the lengths of buying airtime in Pakistan with a commercial to this effect.
If the facts aren't in why was the video blamed? Why go in the direction of a video and who was the person who suggested this red herring?
obama failed the 3am call test, then he spent millions in commercials etc in the muslim world apologizing that America has free speach.......he still has not condemned these heinous murderers......no wonder some people think he is a closet muslim....
obama failed the 3am call test, then he spent millions in commercials etc in the muslim world apologizing that America has free speach.......he still has not condemned these heinous murderers......no wonder some people think he is a closet mu slim....
The problem with this report starts near the beginging when it says "when the Obama administration learned that the attack was more than a protest that turned deadly but was the work of terrorists." It was never a protest and never said to be a protest, there had been previous attacks to this they knew all along. It was also being wacthed live no protest it was an attack...and so we are all still waiting to find out who told hillary and rive and obama that a video was to blame....where is the transparent administration we were promised......crickets..
Witnesses on the ground initially reported that the attack was because of the 'movie.'
The point is, multiple and often contradictory reports come in when all the time, especially in the middle of a chaotic event. Experienced politians like McCain know that. It's irresponsible and obviously political to jump on single messages before an investigation is complete.
Excuse the typos....
Right. Twitter and Facebook are not credible but neither is an obscure video on YouTube.
News flash....the race is tied. Now it is time for all the people who sat on their hands last election to actually get out and vote.4 years of the same or 4 years of something different...simple decision.
Sure nails down motive and opportunity! George should not of committed all those war crimes!
musl ims have been killing people and attacking the west for many years before George was even born......nice try though...man dems are dumb, its like they are zombies and have to follow obama no matter how much of a failure he is......
It's impossible for them to admit failure. I will admit, as fair warning to Mr. Romney, that I was completely disheartened by the Republicans lack of activity when they enjoyed the same political monopoly as Mr. Obama and the Democrats did. Safe to say, after Mr. Romney wins, he will be under the same watch. (Notice Libs, I preferred to use respectful names, not the "F" adjective, or "C" adjective, or the "N" adjective.....)
BTW – it's "Should HAVE" not "Should of".
I have been trying to respond to Edwin but CNN will not post my response. Sorry, Edwin.
Where were all of these conservatives screaming about Libya now when Bush ignored intelligence telling him that terrorists ere planning 9/11. They lauded him as a hero then. Why have they changed now? Hmmmm could it be an election year? Typical right wing hypocrisy.
What does this have to do with the terrorist attack in Benghazi? However, since you brought it up – Why did Bill Clinton fail to authorize killing UBL in 1999?
I missed the reports and proof that President Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks and ignored them. Also, I would just like to say that President Bush addressed the American people when there were problems and kept us informed. Where was Obama in regard to the Benghazi attack? Apparently watching it, then going to bed and then flying to Vegas. All he and his inner circle have been doing these past four years is sneaking around pushing through whatever they can that is their best interest and now that it is campaign time he thinks he is a TV personality with his agenda being to push, push, push more distortions of what the reality of his four years as president really were. NOW he says he has spoken with Israel and NOW gas prices will drop etc., etc.. When the "facts are checked" does anyone out there LISTEN????? May God bless Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods and their grieving families. I am sorry for the hours of terror and violence that this administration forced them to endure and I am so sorry to their families for finding out what their loved ones were forced to endure at the hands of animals.
Shame on CNN ! 4 people died and CNN will not cover the facts of why the White House blamed for 8 days the attack on a video. Obama himself on the View stated it was the video days after the attack. CNN is in the tank for Obama ! Front Page News no. Not for CNN Reporters who will not ask the hard questions in an interview. Very sad for America when news stations will not report the facts or ask the hard questions. Wake up America and please vote with proper knowledge and facts. You must look for facts other then CNN.
And they used to be a really good news organization.
It is sad indeed when Al Jazeera offers a more in depth and fair assessment than CNN! When all comes to light some weeks after the Election are we really prepared for a Biden Presidency? Really? We have been and are still being lied to! Look to BBC and Al Jazeera, neither exactly pro American, for the real investigated stories.
So, Mr. Zelin leads us to believe that because the credit for the attack was not found on any "known" Ansar al Sharia Facebook accounts – the emails must then be bogus. Ah come on – how much more can this story be spun? Facts are the situation was deteriorating in Benghazi. Repeated requests for security were denied by our State Department. Ambassador Stevens gave a grim assessment of the situation on the day he died. The administration has repeatedly revised and spun this story from Day One. If the situation was so confusing at the time – why was the story about the demonstration gone awry promptly reported as "fact" by the administration?
wow everyone knew cnn licks obamas butt but this is ridiculous now......
OBAMA IS A LIAR!!!!!!
I cannot find the article that I referenced below:
08:21 PM ET
US Intel believes some Benghazi attackers tied to al Qaeda in Iraq
By Suzanne Kelly, Pam Benson and Elise Labott
on CNN's site. It has disappeared since last night. However, there is a Soledad O'Brien video with a congressman that contains much the same information. You can find it here:
http://startingpoint.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/24/rep-mike-rogers-on-consulate-attack-emails-somebody-latched-on-to-what-they-wanted-to-hear/
Obama DIDN'T lie the WH did not know at that time. Think McCain and Robmey are man enough to apologize?
NO.... Me either............ WIMPS
Um, I hate to burst your bubble on this but yeah, they kinda did. Do others lie? Yes they do. Does that excuse this lie? No, not in grown-up land.
If Obama did not know, why did he send Susan Rice to the talk shows to say unequivocally that the attack was the result of a "spontaneous demonstration" about a video??? Why did the WH keep saying that for over two weeks, until the truth began coming out? It is not looking good for Obama who made NO preparations for increased security on the anniversary of 9/11, who ignored cables, emails, and personal pleas from embassy staff for more security. Even if you discount the new emails which were happening as the attack was going on, no one can discount the cables and emails and direct requests and intelligence information from the embassy requesting security and telling of the increase in radical elements in Benghazi. Obama had not counted on survivors who would tell the truth and a trail of written correspondence which would reveal his many lies. Clinton and Obama are not to be trusted or believed.
Well they have a suspect in custody and guess what? By an amazing coincidence he is a member of NASCAR al sharia. Imagine that. Did you fail to say that they were watching the situation real time via a drone. I wonder who directed that drone to fly over Benghazi? Give me a break. One other thing. Who was it who initially said that this was an impromptu demonstration first. No one will ever claim that and the silence is deafening. And what info did that person receive that led him to that belief?
I know typed in Ansar and it changed it to NASCAR.
Ha! That's kinda awesome.
Randy, all true! Who diverted the insert team from responding to the two former seals taking out the attackers and ordered them to the Embassy? Why were the helicopters on board the destroyers not ordered in? Why is Al Jazeera a better source of information than CNN?
Oh wait... so it was really the repubs who were lying their a**es off about this email? Is anyone REALLY surprised?
Hey CNN, is there an investigation into this report or is this all we get? The President was bashed based on media reports and copies of emails. If you are going to report something like this at least follow up before the election. Fair is fair!
Isn't it great that CNN is able to spin its headlines like this? Elect Romney/Ditch CNN
I agree. Only a few emails have been released, though some of the emails and cables from Ambassador Stevens have been obtained by the committee investigating Benghazi, and these show that Obama and his administration was criminally negligent. The cables and emails, as well as direct pleas, go back to February 1, 2012 and tell of a deteriorating security and dangerous situation on the ground. If you watched the investigation proceedings, you saw Charlene Lamb talk in circles without explaining why lax security existed (Obama sought and received a waiver for a more secure building) or why an untried British firm that hired locals who were untrained were assigned to the embassy, or why the pleas from embassy security staff was ignored.???? Clinton/Obama say that they cannot know what the situation was so why did they relentlessly promote the idea of an unexpected, "spontaneous" attack? It was CYA mode, and they are pathological liars.
Obama is doing his BEST imitation of Sgt Schultz from Hogans Heroes "I know NOTHING!"
IMO, It was NOT a planned "terrorist" attack.
Your opinion means nothing when you deny the facts surrounding this. I believe America knows it's been lied to (Yes even you know that) and Independants are changing their votes.
Here wego! The Spin machine is in full gear now. Obama administration has issued it's marching orders to CNN to cover his 6 on this one, and the lemmings are falling straight in line.
So... it turns out Obama was right that the WH did not know at that time. I wonder if McCain and Romney will apologize?
Even if this is proven beyond any doubt to be correct, do you think any repub or GOP politician will accept it as fact? They accept nothing as fact, regardless of how many times something is proven to them!
"Mr President, we have a situation. Our consulate in Benghazi is under attack. We have a live feed in the situation room."
Possible responses:
a) I'm on my way (therefore he knew and lied)
b) I have a speech/interview to give on the campaign trail. (He knew and didn't care)
c) He was unreachable and his aides didn't brief him (incompetance)
Does anyone truely believe the WH didn't know? This proposition is hogwash. They may not have know exactly what happened but they knew it wasn't due to a film trailer on YouTube released months before. This is pure polical spin because the campaign is inseparable from his policy makers and they are in damage control mode for his campaign, not America.
How can anyone claim that Twitter and Facebook are legitimate sources to know if an attack is by terrorists etc.? Anyway can set up these accounts and claim whatever they want! Surely McCain should know that. What an ignorant claim from such a senior Republican.
How can anyone claim they are not worth great attention? If social media fueled the Arab spring why would we presume it was not a red flag?
You might argue that social media is not a legitimate source. The fact that they were watching the attack live at the White House and seeing men with RPGs and setting up motors, would leave anybody to understand that this wasn't a demonstration by people upset about a video.l
This article by Lister an Cruickshank introduces a classic fallacy of Red Herring. At this time, we do not need to know "The Truth" about Benghazi; rather, we need to know what information Barry and Hillary had during the first 48 hours, what processes of investigation they employed, and what decisions they made. We know now that they are stonewalling. This article simply adds to that stonewalling effort.
Last night this CNN had a wonderful article that addressed what we need to know at this time. That article was::
08:21 PM ET
US Intel believes some Benghazi attackers tied to al Qaeda in Iraq
By Suzanne Kelly, Pam Benson and Elise Labott
which this CNN website has managed to lose over night. Why is that, CNN? The article explained that the terrorist in jail in Tunisia is the attacker who posted to Facebook during the attack on the consulate. Now that article moves us down the road toward learning what decisions were made by Barry and Hillary. I am sure that CNN will repost that article now, right CNN?
Why do we need to know that? The government needs to know what happened and who did it, but what possible necessity is there for the public to know exactly when the WH people knew what? Clearly they did not send aid in. Clearly the situation turned out badly.
But how is ANYTHING actually improved if the public learns who thought what, when?
Amen. This is not a movie folks. Things don't unfold in a quick 2 hours and end up all neat and tidy at the end. And why do you need to know what happened "right now this minute?" I frankly want leadership that makes sure they are correct and clear about what happened, and then makes decisions about how to respond. Not someone who flies off the handle and declares war at the first sign of trouble. The right wants so badly to find something about our President you just make stuff up. That scares the wits out of me.
What the public needs to know is if our current president and Secretary of State are outright liars. I think that is important. And they are. Once again who floated the spontaneous demonstration idea. Get back to me when someone steps up to take responsibility. Btw why did Rice go on tv to shovel this garbage. If someone saw her don't you think they would have called her immediately to tell her to stop? Idiots
At this time in the history of the USA, the most important question is how much of what Barry, Hillary, and friends have said about Benghazi is true.
Hey CNN, why isn't this article a headliner? Everyone is so eager to bash the President over this very issue, yet a report like this is not front page news?
I agree!!! CNN DO YOUR JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is absolutely disgusting what CNN is doing...
Thats because it doesnt change anything nor exonerate obama and his lies and imcompetency.....obama and hillary are the most pathetic leaders this country has ever seen.....cnn licks obamas blls so this article is just trying to put a little doubt in weak minded left wingers minds......its too late, this has become to big...its too late for this admin to get out of this one....please vote obama out...he left our ambassador to be tortured and die..........he is no leader....yet he goes on an apology tour and spends millions on commercials in the muslim world apologizing for our freedom of speach...there is no way out of this one, they say the situation is fluid and they didnt have all the facts, yet they had a drone over the area while the attack was happening, then went on tv, to the UN, across the muslim world claiming this heinous crime was caused because of a video that an AMERICAN made under free speech.....he did not condemn the murders or murderers, did not say it was a terrorist attack (even though it was on 9/11 and the attackers had mortars, rpgs and ak's........then lied for weeks.....this is no president of the US.......time for something new.......he cannot be trusted. As for hillary and Bill for that matter, they tore obama apart during the primaries, then flipped to his side when he was elected....look at some of the things bill and hillary said about obama before the election in 08.
There are some very frightening people posting here. They sound like domestic terrorists, not Americans engaged in political discourse. They also seem to be unable to READ and COMPREHEND, at least no more than fits their fantasies. It's a shameless state of affairs.
This is beyond ridiculous! The fact remains Obama and his administration failed on this one and people died.
Failed how?
Are you kidding? They failed miserably because 4 Americans were killed on their watch. Regardless of the emails, explain to me why a US Consulate anywhere in the Middle East was so poorly protected on 9/11. The defense of this administration on this issue is truly amazing to say the least.
I want to know why those people were still there. Everyone else, including the Red Cross, had pulled their people out.
Sorry, xoxo, if the facts contradict what you have convinced yourself is true. A sane, intelligent person would realize that means they were wrong; you, however, doubt new facts simply because they don't say Obama is evil.
I don't think that classifies you as sane or intelligent, sorry.
Do your fact checking, it was the republicans that cut $300 million out of the security budget, Obama managed to get some of it back but not all of it.
Do your fact checking. It was the State Department that denied real-time requests for additional security at Benghazi. The State Department headed by Hillary Clinton.
It wasn't a republican who didn't send any help to the embassy now was it?
a video caused this???? are some people high or something..do they like when the President of the United States lies to them and treats them like fools? Wake up..he works for us! All of us. this is simply unacceptable
Everyone else have pulled their Ambassadors out. Even the Red Cross had pulled their people. You can't blame the GOP for this one.
That 'fact' has already been disproven. Try to pay attention and quit protecting your Commander In Lies! It changes nothing about the lies and the cover and the failure to protect Americans who asked for help 3 times!
Stevens was aware that Benghazi was extremely unstable, he was aware his security people wanted more assets, he knew he was a target, he went to to Benghazi with almost no assets for protection. So why was he persuaded to go and who persuaded him? It looks like it was an entire setup. They were attacked after the Turk left. They knew where the CIA had their "safe house". So much for stealth by the CIA. This was a complete setup in my opinion. Your thoughts.
I want jobs - Romeny is my choice
I want lower debt – Romeny will do that
I do not want gridlock – Do not reelect Obama
I want the partisan stalemantes and rhetoric to end – do not elect Obama
I want tax reform – Romney does too
I want civility returned to DC - Mitt will do that
I hate people who lie and mislead and make false promioses – Do not reelect Obama
civility? You've got to be joking!
He's not. Just blurred vision not correctibel even with surgery.
Wow can any truly honest person claim civility from the Obama administration? Really? You must like to lie to yourself a LOT!
"I hate people who lie and mislead and make false promioses – Do not reelect Obama"
Actually, you just gave the best reason to NOT VOTE FOR MITT! He has lied and changed his stance so much through this campaign nobody really knows who he is or what he stands for.
I don't think he even considers it lying anymore to change his position over and over and over, in order to win votes. I think he thinks we really don't care.
lol
Romney's plan increases our debt. I know everybody wants tax cuts and nobody wants to pay for them. Romney refuses to answer specific questions on how tax cuts will be paid for, if you're gullible you believe and trust him. I'm not gullible.
Name a Romney lie tough guy......obama doesnt even have a plan for the next 4 years...have you heard one solid thing from him ? All you need to see is the failures of the past 4 years and no obama has to go......you gullible lefties believe anything your leader forces you to believe......he has done nothing, has no plan, and just blatantly lied to the American people while the ambassador and others were tortured and murdered and dragged through the streets....obama was on the phone with J-Z and Beyonce, and then flew to vegas instead....anyone, anyone, that would even consider voting for obama must truly be blind, or does not know how to read.....or sorry, they want more free handouts like food stamps etc....obama hasnt passed a budget, even the dems voted it down, and in no way can work across the aisle....Romney can......
In MA Romney vetoed 800 items. Virtually all were overturned. So much for bipartisanship. Romney did not create jobs in MA. MA was 47th in the nation for job creation. At Bain he did not create jobs. Bain eliminated jobs and was the pioneer for outsourcing to China. So he moved jobs to China, I guess that is creating jobs in China??
An American ambassador is raped and killed. For weeks, Obama and the Crew tell the world that all the uproar can be attributed to a video that not one of the twelve Muslims with computers ever saw. How stupid do you think Americans are? Obama even stands before the United Nations and mentions the video six times. Perhaps Chris Matthews and the other bigots at MSNBC might want to be informed that with Obama it's not an African-American issue, it's an anti-American issue.
who was raped? I never heard that part of the story.
It was announced through the AP our Amabassador was sodomized prior to being drug through the streets. Eventually civilized members of Libyan society ended it and took him to the hospital.
The AP reported no such thing.
Kozak, you've got to be an absolute moron for posting something as absurd as that.
Link that sodomy claim, son. And he wasn't dragged through the streets. Those men were carrying him to the hospital. But you don't want to read that, do you? No. Disgusting is what you are.
99 % of the people posting on here have absolutely 0 % of an idea of how these kind of events are dealt with and the processes that must be followed for all diplomatic missions in trouble. Oh no Captain America shouldve just flowen in there to save the day, the republicans wouldve nuked the entire city and killed everyone responsable and the rest. You people should keep your mounths tightly shut until you learn that your distaste for the POTUS is the entire cause of your 'outrage'. You're all POS!
I agree. Comments on this and other articles about the Benghazi attack are pretty silly. None of the people commenting know a thing about how information is gathered, who gathers it, how it is vetted for accuracy and legitimacy, or how that information is then dispersed outside of the intelligence gathering agency. Most of statements are all oriented around political partisanship and zealotry. They think they should be able to Google the attack and get immediate answers. These are the same people who is Wikipedia to get their own "facts".
I am not among those 99% as I am well informed, and I disagree with you Chris. We can talk points of view or we can namecall, but in my experience the loser in the debate is the one who has to resort to namecalling.
Mistakes were made. Will the responsible party please admit it so we can move on? Obama sold the movie story because we are suppossed to be loved now he's President, and this hurts him politically. He is a politician through and through and he has legislated from executive regulations because he can't lead his own party or muster enough courage to legitimately discuss his direction for the country with the 50% or so that disagree with him though their representatives.
You've made the mistake of assuming you're talking to a mature adult. Judging by his post, I find it difficult to believe this person is a day over 14 and SHOULD be in school right now.
Plenty of blame to go around, starting with the security funding that the Tea Party congress cut from the budget. And if you think that video didn't inflame the Middle East, you're very foolish. I also am not convinced that wasn't set up, either. Notice there's been not another word about the man who made it.
It's been well established that additional security was warranted and asked for LONG before this incident took place. These requests were either ignored or denied. I don't recall Republicans dropping nukes on embassies in the past, even when they had supermajority control. On what data do you base this nonsensical assumption? The cause of the outrage is the fact that our President, regardless of political affiliation, dropped the ball and lied about it. It really is that simple.
I can forgive him dropping the ball. Everyone makes mistakes. I can live with a lie or two. All politicians do it. But doing both over an incident where American diplomats and servicemen lost their lives is just too much to swallow.
if the gop was in the white house it would be all their fault but since it's a democrat you will defene them
If it was the GOP, they would be talking impeachment.
Throughout our history, any attack on America has always unified us against the external threat. Now you have one group of Americans blaming another group of Americans instead of the guilty party. Way to go, republicans! You must be so proud of yourselves.
so very true and sad
the dems did the same thing to bushafter 9/11
keefers: .. no they didnt, they should have. in fact only one man was smart and strong and american enough to call BS on Bush – Russ Feingold. He voted no on going to Iraq. He knew better, he was the only honorable person there.
Why did Obama leave servicemen and the Ambassador to die in Libya.
don't dumb a complicated situation down so much just to serve your own partisam prefereance. This isn't that simple. Go watch Spiderman or something, you must be 16.
Shut your pie hole. You just did the same thing. Liberal softy weakling.
This is really pretty easy. This attack was watched in real time by the Pentagon, National Security and the WH. Reports said the people involved were wearing clothes and carrying flags and had vehicles with the al-quaeda linked group's emblem on them. There was never a mystery as to whom carried this out. Even beyond that, no matter which group, it was terrorism, pure and simple. It was not done by a group of pacifists. Because the embassy had been attacked at least twice in the past few months and it was 9-11, there could not even be a question. Furthermore, in the hours before the attack, Stevens met with a Turkish minister and they were watched while at a safehouse. The government was made aware at that point that Stevens knew he was in trouble. The real question is why more requested security was not provided ahead of time, why it was not provided during the hours of the attack as it was ongoing, and why this administration would go out of its way to point fingers and misdirect/redirect/lie about this when we all know that they were aware at the time. You only lie to hide something. Gun-running? Attempts to incite ME violence? Pandering for votes to the muzzies? It will come out. Hopefully, it will be before the election so we all know exactly where this 'prez' and administration stand.
Absolutely unbelievable that news sources (if you can call CNN a news source) are making excuses for Obama. Have any of you seen the photos of the Ambassador? What those animals did to him? It is absolutely horrific and hard to look at and these a$$ as in holes are making excuss for the lamest POTUS we've ever had!
The emails and testimony before Congress prove the administration knew and watched the attack in realtime via drones from the WH situation room. This information creates more questions: Why were no ready response forces not sent in from Italy where they are tasked to respond to exactly these situations? Why did the President just go to bed during the attack without knowing the whereabouts of our fellow citizens? Why was our ambassador there and meeting with a Turkish government emmisary? Why was the official story touted by UN Ambassador Susan Rice and WH press sec Carney THE VIDEO, THE VIDEO, THE VIDEO? This and the Fast and Furious coverup are 100 times worse than Watergate, because in Watergate- NO ONE DIED!
If American "journalists" did their jobs and asked real questions of this administration, MAYBE the TRUTH WILL COME OUT! But NO todays "journalists" are more interested in allowing the lies to continue and cover for this Anti-American President and his Anti-American agenda! Maybe this is why traditional media has an 8% approval rating in the country. They are losing viewers/readers and the sponsors. How long will they sell their journalistic integrity for their ideological agendas instead of DOING THEIR JOBS?
The Benghazi pseudo-outrage is yet another in the chain of desperate frenzied paranoid psycho-conspiracy GOP/neo-con witch hunts and, characteristic of all of them, lacks any scintilla of corroborating evidence to support their diseased thinking. What's even more telling is that even in the face of indisputable evidence that refutes their delusions they haggardly stick to the insanity that personifies their self-gratiating un-American agenda. A truly pathetic commentary on what a menial clan of guttersnipes the GOP has become.
Duane: Best distilling of this farce I've seen yet. Well done.
Tired of politicized reports on Benghazi. This election is about fixing the US economy, not Benghazi, and it's pretty clear which candidate would do a better job at that.
Do you really think the President controls the economy?
Every time I read the stories about this I am just bewildered. The argument seems to be about what word(s) were used to describe this unfortunate event? Have things really sunk to that level? That we are having a petty squabble about using the word "terror" as though it holds some mystical power, that when invoked alters the events of the past? It doesn't f'ing matter what word you use to describe it, what matters is that it is being investigated and that those responsible will be held to account...
This is so incredibly childish that I am embarrassed for the people perpetrating this witch hunt.
Yes unfortunately they have. We have a president who doesn't have the backbone to stand up to a hostile congress and a financier who ruined one state then went on to be a corporate raider. They can't talk about their accomplishments so they have to try to find things to nitpick about in the other candidate. Neither one of them is qualified or has the ethics and integrity to be president.
Really?! Pres Obama wanted to make an issue out of his own words? Please, this is a repugnican tactic clear as day, oh wait...I bet a repug could argue that the word day doesnt mean day. Obama wont cripple the country and shut it down, that's a repug move...if Obama wanted to nit pik Romney, he only need ask at every rally what the magic alien underwear will mean to America. Are these Morman aliens gonna come and spite our enemies? or just collect money for their pockets?.. Obama isnt weak, he's civilized...
You nailed it. Artificial controversy is a huge business these days. This is a prime example of media created and media perpetuated "crisis", that only serves to distract people from actual problems, and solutions.
Doubts still exist because some news agencies do not have the gonads to ask questions until the exhaulted one is safely back on the throne,