Checking the candidates' facts on foreign policy and national security
October 21st, 2012
06:00 PM ET

Checking the candidates' facts on foreign policy and national security

Monday’s debate focuses on foreign policy and national security. The debate commission announced that the main topics will be: Afghanistan and Pakistan, Israel and Iran, "The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism," and "The Rise of China and Tomorrow's World.

Ahead of the debate, here’s a look at some campaign claims about foreign policy that we've looked at:

Also: My debate checklist: AEI's Danielle Pletka

What happened in Benghazi

Claim: "The day after the attack, governor, I stood in the Rose Garden and I told the American people in the world that we are going to find out exactly what happened," President Barack Obama said during the second presidential debate. "That this was an act of terror and I also said that we're going to hunt down those who committed this crime."

"It took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror," Mitt Romney responded moments later.

Conclusion: Romney's precise comment was false. Obama did describe the killings in Benghazi as an act of terror twice in the two days after the attack. In an interview two weeks after the incident, though, he appeared to reserve judgment, and some Obama administration officials, including Carney and Rice, suggested in the days after the attack that the United States had no indication that it was a planned assault. (How we reached our conclusion)

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Claim: "We weren't told they wanted more security. We did not know they wanted more security," Vice President Joe Biden said during the vice presidential debate.

Conclusion: It's unclear how high Nordstrom's request got in the administration, but he says he did ask the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs for more security help at the Benghazi post. (How we reached our conclusion)

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Claim: "There were requests for extra security. Those requests were not honored," Rep. Paul Ryan said during the vice presidential debate.

Conclusion: The GOP-led House did initially approve about $330 million less than what the administration requested, but in the final bill, passed with bipartisan support after adjustments by the Senate, put the amount a little closer to the administration's target. (How we reached our conclusion)

Also: My debate checklist: Center for American Progress' Brian Katulis

Iran

Claim: "When Barack Obama was elected, they had enough fissile material, nuclear material, to make one bomb. Now they have enough to make five," Rep. Paul Ryan said during the vice presidential debate. "They're racing toward a nuclear weapon. They're four years closer toward a nuclear weapons capability."

Conclusion: According to at least one widely circulated estimate, Iran could produce enough uranium for five bombs, as Ryan says. But the same estimate notes that it would draw attention if it did so, and that's only part of the work necessary to make a weapon. (How we reached our conclusion)

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Claim: "When millions of Iranians took to the streets in June of 2009, when they demanded freedom from a cruel regime that threatens the world, when they cried out, 'Are you with us, or are you with them?' - the American president was silent," Mitt Romney said on October 8th.

Conclusion: During the first couple of days of the protests and violence, Obama did not weigh in publicly, but by a few days in, he was not "silent" - and a week later, took a tougher stance. (How we reached our conclusion)

Security Clearance: The latest on military, diplomacy and intelligence

Israel

Claim: "The president explicitly stated that his goal was to put 'daylight' between the United States and Israel. And he has succeeded," said Mitt Romney on October 8th. "This is a dangerous situation that has set back the hope of peace in the Middle East and emboldened our mutual adversaries, especially Iran."

Conclusion: There have been numerous reports of tensions and disagreements, and there have been times where Obama has expressed a view (as on settlement activity) not shared by his Israeli counterpart. But any blanket assessment should also take into account assertions from the likes of Barak, lauding cooperation between the two nations over the last four years. (How we reached our conclusion)

Terrorism

Claim: "When he was asked about bin Laden in 2007, [Governor Mitt Romney] said, and I quote, 'It's not worth moving heaven and Earth and spending billions of dollars just to catch one person,' " Vice President Joe Biden said.

Conclusion: Romney was critical of Obama's position in the days following the future president's August 2007 speech. Biden's speech Thursday night left out some context about Romney's remarks, and Kerry mischaracterized Romney's comments - Romney didn't say attacking targets in Pakistan was naive but talking about it publicly was. Also, Biden himself once characterized Obama's comments as naive. (How we reached our conclusion)

Also: Libya, Iran are likely flash points in final debate

Defense spending

Claim: "His trillion-dollar cuts to our military will eliminate hundreds of thousands of jobs, and also put our security at greater risk," Mitt Romney said in his acceptance speech to the GOP national convention in Tampa, Florida.

Conclusion: Romney's "trillion-dollar" figure is roughly accurate. But the cuts aren't entirely of Obama's making, and their impact on national security is a subject of some debate. (How we reached our conclusion)

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Claim: "So we're saying don't cut the military by a trillion dollars. Not increase it by a trillion, don't cut it by a trillion dollars," Rep. Paul Ryan said during the vice presidential debate.

Conclusion: An analysis of the Romney campaign platform call for defense spending to be increased to 4 percent of Gross Domestic Product would lead to an increase in spending by $2 trillion over the next decade. (How we reached our conclusion)

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Claim: During a foreign policy speech at the Virginia Military Institute, the Republican presidential nominee said the number of ships in the U.S. fleet were equivalent to that of the fleet in 1916. And to address that, he wanted to bolster the Navy overall by building 15 ships a year, including three submarines.

Conclusion: While Romney is fairly close in assessing the size of the U.S. Naval fleet, his claim is basically pointless. (How we reached our conclusion)

Free trade agreements

Claim: Mitt Romney stated Monday that President Barack Obama "has not signed one new free-trade agreement in the past four years."

Conclusion: While President Obama continued trade agreements begun under the previous administration, it is not accurate to assert that Obama has not signed any free trade agreements when, in fact, he has done so with South Korea, Panama and Colombia. (How we reached our conclusion)

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  1. Billy

    Roomey is a straight faced pathelogical LIAR. Why does Roomey continue to lie??? Roomey/Ryan can not be trusted.

    October 22, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Reply
  2. Nickdv

    Did Romney stated that Syria was important as itvwas Iran gate to the sea ? Fact check . Iran has direct acces to the sea!

    October 22, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Reply
    • Billy

      Roomey obviously failed geography.

      October 22, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Reply
      • GAPeach1

        This deserves air time.......Regarding Romney's lack of geographical awareness of Iran's route to the sea, etc., see comments below of a friend of mine (immediately after the debate) – former Army, retired Special Forces, Lt. Colonel:

        "Romney did say that Syria was Iran's only ally and access to the sea. MSN caught it. Iraq is in between Syria and Iran. This blunder is major to a military man like me because it shows that Romney does not understand the strategic significance of the Straits of Hormus. We have at least two, if not three, carrier task forces in the Persian Gulf (which Iran borders) to insure that the oil flow to the world is not cut off if Iran decides to blockade the straits. The Iranians have gun boats, a couple of submarines, mine layers, and missile batteries at the straits. This is significant and these civilian journalists are clueless!! If the Iranians block the Straits of Hormus, oil goes to $200.00 per barrel and the stock market crashes!!! Really! No, this man is not, is not, qualified to be Commander in Chief!!! "

        October 23, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
  3. armyav8r

    yeah right...6 public press conferences...6 references to a video...ZERO reference to what is WAS (a TERRORIST ATTACK). God forbid anyone should even SUGGEST accountability for misleading the American public in an effort to NOT have a terrorist attack occur on "Obama's watch" An American Ambassador murdered...there Americans murdered...three embassies burned...and what do we do???? APOLOGIZE AND PANDER for cartoons and videos. Then we ARREST an American who acted in 100% FULL compliance of the laws and freedoms afforded to us all (you know...those freedoms that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIED FOR...in two major wars?...yes THOSE freedoms), just so we can conveniently TOSS THEM so as to PANDER and APOLOGIZE to a culture that PUBLICLY stones women and hangs gays. Yes THAT'S a great foreign policy. How's it workin' thus far?

    October 22, 2012 at 9:36 pm | Reply
  4. John

    The House GOP cut Obama's Foreign Embassy Security budget request by 128 million in 2011 and by a whopping 313 million in 2012..........Less $ means less security, and the $ were allocated prior to the Libyan Embassy in Bengazi....Doesn't the House GOP share in the lions share of the blame for the poor security in Bengazi?

    October 22, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Reply
    • Badger00

      Besides the fact that the actual approved amount was not $330 million less, can you definitively tie less funding to less actual security (where is the audit trail on that?)? Also, reconcile that with Biden's statement that they were never asked for more security. Which is it? I don't think you can really have it both ways? BTW, I am not a Romney supporter. Just a person trying to apply a little critical analysis to all the political spin.

      October 22, 2012 at 8:21 pm | Reply
    • EdD

      Apparantly you are not up to date on the known facts. Funding had nothing to do with the lack of security according to testimony.

      October 22, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Reply
  5. Dave

    Chavez, Putin, and Castro family all give praise to Obama. In fact Chavez said he would vote for Obama and that the president would likely vote for him.

    If you think being liked by these leaders is where we should focus, and is important for our next president, then I guess we have the person you feel is the correct person in the WH. If you see this as a potential problem and an indication of the direction these foreign leaders think America is headed, then I suggest you vote for a new direction.

    October 22, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Reply
    • Thinker23

      I beleive that Americans should look for a President who is THE BEST for the United States and NOT for a President that will be hated by some foreign leaders.

      October 22, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Reply
  6. Mcshannon

    Netanyahu and Romney are as they say “Birds of a Feather”. I think that it is good that Mitt has made this connection endorsing the “RED LINE” idea of Netanyahu's. They both seek to be glorified and recognized for cunning strategy regardless that it means nothing as Romney is just a lesser candidate. Fortunately for us our military strategist and foreign policy advisers have another plan that doesn’t involve self aggrandizing by a few attention seekers.

    October 22, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Reply
    • Thinker23

      Well, in this case, you should be worried about either Netanyahu or Romney... Right?

      October 22, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Reply
  7. armyav8r

    “SMALLER GOVT. AND FREE MARKETS GOT US INTO THIS MESS”
    ….no Einstein…America went from a 13 colony misfit mob to a world super power using EXACTLY THAT MODEL. Don’t even try that garbage on people who ACTUALLY KNOW our history…..and along those lines, are you going to even remotely suggest 1775-1945 was a SOCIALIST MODEL ???? Get real.

    October 22, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Reply
  8. armyav8r

    “THE MAN….THE RICH….THE SYSTEM…ARE HOLDING ME DOWN”….I see…then can you please explain to me HOW hundreds of thousands of first generation immigrants can arrive here right off the boat, with nearly net zero to their names, work hard for years and build a great life for their families…while YOU can’t seem to get out of first gear? Not to mention we just elected a MINORITY to the HIGHEST and most POWERFUL post in the world…our president…so your argument is not only weak, but it shows how HARD you are trying to pawn off your results to SOMEONE ELSE. Blame, class warfare, gender warfare, and religious warfare are the ONLY tools the Liberals are throwing around….while offering ZERO solutions to fix the underlying problem of MAKING $2.1T and SPENDING $3.8T (which any first grader will tell you is absurd). Sooner or later REALITY and ECONOMIC laws will catch up…as they always do in time (just ask Europe if that’s true)…and then this “free stuff” Socialism will come to a screeching halt.

    October 22, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Reply
    • Mcshannon

      I guess when President Bush started two wars he should have thought how to pay for them. Instead inacted the biggest tax cut in fifty years. However there was no trickle down and we have a large debt and those Bush tax cuts are running out Jan 1 and you probably think we should continue the breaks for the wealthy like Mitt?

      October 22, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Reply
      • Thinker23

        I'm sorry to burst yhour bubble but the two wars you're talking about were started by Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, respectively. If you need historical examples you may consider that WWII was started by Adolf Hitler and NOT by Winston Churchill.

        October 22, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
  9. armyav8r

    “LIBERALS ARE SCARED OF FACTS, DATA, AND #’s…HERE’s WHY…STRAIGHT FROM CNN:”
    (CNN) "Are you better off than you were four years ago?"
    We put that question to the test and here's what we found – by the numbers:
    9.4 million - Number of people unemployed in August 2008.
    12.6 million - Number of people unemployed in August 2012.
    6.1% – U.S. unemployment rate in August 2008.
    8.1% – U.S. unemployment rate in August 2012..
    1.6 million - Number of long-term unemployed (jobless for 27 weeks or more) as of August 2008.
    5 million - Number of long-term unemployed (jobless for 27 weeks or more) as of August 2012.
    Another round of Stimulus won't create jobs
    5.7 million - Number of people working part-time, involuntarily, in August 2008.
    8 million - Number of people working part-time, involuntarily, in August 2012.
    Prices and Finance
    $3.96 - Average price for a gallon of milk in July 2008.
    $3.92 - Average price for a gallon of milk in September 2012.
    $4.09 – Average price for a gallon of unleaded gas in July 2008.
    $4.11 - Average price for a gallon of unleaded gas in September 2012.
    Housing
    68.1% - U.S. homeownership rate as of June 2008.
    65.5% - U.S. homeownership rate as of June 2012.
    $196,600 - Median price of an existing single family home in 2008.
    $181,100 - Median price of an existing single family home in September 2012

    October 22, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Reply
    • Get Real!!!!!

      Interesting how all your numbers are from June/July/August of 2008, two months before the financial crisis hit. Nothing drives home a biased point better than selective statistics.

      October 22, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Reply
  10. armyav8r

    lets see...do I choose a Socialist, Marxist, Anti-Entrepreneur who only knows how to re-distribute (by force) from one to another (all in the name of "fairness" of course....even though HALF THE NATION disagrees with him)......OR.....do I choose someone who at least UNDERSTANDS the period form 1775 to 1945 was NOT a Socialism model...and is EXACTLY the model Liberals claim "doesn't work" (yet they have NO explanation as to what model we DID use to rise to a world super power). hmmmmm....decisions decisions.

    October 22, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Reply
    • Homie

      Do you know what the top tax rate was in 1945? In 1945 the top tax rate was 94%. In 1939 it was a bit lower, at 79%.
      And people today think that 35% is too high, for millionaires.

      October 22, 2012 at 10:51 pm | Reply
  11. armyav8r

    The Obama administration is a classic “CULT OF PERSONALITY”…. he looks good, promises free stuff (at the expense of OTHERS’ MONEY AND FREEDOMS…all in the name of “fairness” of course) even though HALF the nation disagrees with him. He demonizes (vilifies) the very principles, means, and group that ENGINEERED and EXECUTED the rise of America (1775-1945)….using a smaller govt.+free market model (you know….that model Liberals say “doesn’t work”?...yes, THAT model ). The media acts like a mob of 14 year old girls at a Justin Bieber concert. Debates NOW are judged by volume, energy, and childish two year old kindergarten smirks & gestures….rather than (god forbid) PERFORMANCE RECORDS and REPORT CARDS. Never before have I ever witnessed SO MUCH use of DIVISIVE tactics with regard to class, race, and religious warfare….nor have I EVER seen a President take ZERO responsibility for the last 4 years. Pathetic.

    October 22, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Reply
    • Floretta

      At least Obama HAS a personality, lol.

      October 22, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Reply
    • Homie

      Yes, back when the top tax rate was 95%, back in 1945. It was 79% in 1939. So we should go back to those tax rates to pay down the debt?

      October 22, 2012 at 10:53 pm | Reply
    • CHRISTvsWARHOL

      It's just shocking to me that so many people support a man like Romney that is just plain lying through his teeth like no one I have ever seen in modern political history. And it's sad to see his followers lying just like Romney. Are you people serious about this country or what? You can literally tear apart every single thing Romney says every single time he opens his mouth. A part of me wants Romney to win just to show everyone what an idiot he is – but I made the same projection in 2000 about Bush – and look what happened. The final one for me was Romney stating that his plan will take 8-10 years – while Obama's plan is a failure at four years. Sickening.

      October 23, 2012 at 1:34 am | Reply
  12. armyav8r

    6 public press conferences...6 references to a video...ZERO reference to what is WAS (a TERRORIST ATTACK). God forbid anyone should even SUGGEST accountability for misleading the American public in an effort to NOT have a terrorist attack occur on "Obama's watch" An American Ambassador murdered...there Americans murdered...three embassies burned...and what do we do???? APOLOGIZE AND PANDER for cartoons and videos. Then we ARREST an American who acted in 100% FULL compliance of the laws and freedoms afforded to us all (you know...those freedoms that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIED FOR...in two major wars?...yes THOSE freedoms), just so we can conveniently TOSS THEM so as to PANDER and APOLOGIZE to a culture that PUBLICLY stones women and hangs gays. Yes THAT'S a great foreign policy. How's it workin' thus far?

    October 22, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Reply
  13. vellocet

    The argument about the navy being smaller is ridiculous. That's like saying our computers are as big as they used to be, we have to increase the size of our computers.

    The military today is significantly more efficient and effective than it was 80 years ago.

    October 22, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Reply
  14. Romney factchecking Romney

    "I was not responsible for what happened at Bain Capital after I left" – Mitt Romney
    "I was the sole shareholder, sole Managing Director, Chief Executive Officer and President of Bain until I resigned retroactively [huh?] in 2001" – Mitt Romney

    "The Arizona immigration policy is a good model" – Mitt Romney
    "I didn't really support the Arizona immigration policy" – Mitt Romney

    “The Massachusetts healthcare plan should be a model for the nation” – Mitt Romney
    “Healthcare reform should be left to the states” – Mitt Romney

    "Let Detroit go bankrupt" -Mitt Romney
    "I'll take a lot of credit for saving the auto industry" -Mitt Romney

    “I believe Roe v Wade has gone too far.” – Mitt Romney
    “Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years ... we should sustain and support it.” – Mitt Romney

    “I respect and will protect a woman’s right to choose.” – Mitt Romney
    “I never really called myself pro-choice.” – Mitt Romney

    “It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam.” – Mitt Romney
    “I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and represent our country there.” – Mitt Romney

    “I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” – Mitt Romney
    “Ronald Reagan is … my hero.” – Mitt Romney

    “I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation.” – Mitt Romney
    "There’s no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs.” – Mitt Romney

    “I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.” – Mitt Romney
    “I did not see it with my own eyes.” – Mitt Romney

    “I would like to have campaign spending limits.” – Mitt Romney
    “The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates without burdensome limitations.” – Mitt Romney

    “I supported the assault weapon ban.” – Mitt Romney
    "I don’t support any gun control legislation.” – Mitt Romney

    October 22, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Reply
    • Get Real!!!!!

      Amen! If Romney is elected I suggest the administration mount a billboard on the White House lawn displaying his weekly stand on the issues. That will save all of us the time and hassle of trying to keep up with the constant flux!

      October 22, 2012 at 6:20 pm | Reply
  15. Joncook

    Fact check? Sounds more like CNN trying to make excuses for Obama. The Ryan claim about a request for security not being honored....how is the conclusion about budget cuts? Did the request get honored or didn't it? If you want to blame it on the cuts, then do so. Just don't use it as a fact for a claim that is in a completely different category. And lastly, the trade agreements with KR, Columbia and Panama already existed. They have been spelled out in CFR19 for years. Reinventing the wheel doesn't make you a genius.

    October 22, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Reply
    • MP in VA

      When did conservatives become such whiners and sissies. Time to put the big boy briefs on and grow a pair. Funny, how, when conservatives are successful, it's you who did it, and when you're a failure (as Romney is), it's always whine, whine, whine about it being someone else's fault, especially the government's. Whatever happened to succeeding or failing on your own merits?

      October 22, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Reply
    • Brian

      Agreed: There has been a subtle but obvious leaning by CNN TV and drastic shift from CNN.com on these issues. I stopped watching the other "balanced" network in favor of unbiased reporting. Where can I turn to know for my news? BBC? Get a grip CNN!

      October 22, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Reply
    • Romney factchecking Romney

      "I was not responsible for what happened at Bain Capital after I left" – Mitt Romney
      "I was the sole shareholder, sole Managing Director, Chief Executive Officer and President of Bain until I resigned retroactively [huh?] in 2001" – Mitt Romney

      "The Arizona immigration policy is a good model" – Mitt Romney
      "I didn't really support the Arizona immigration policy" – Mitt Romney

      “The Massachusetts healthcare plan should be a model for the nation” – Mitt Romney
      “Healthcare reform should be left to the states” – Mitt Romney

      "Let Detroit go bankrupt" -Mitt Romney
      "I'll take a lot of credit for saving the auto industry" -Mitt Romney

      “I believe Roe v Wade has gone too far.” – Mitt Romney
      “Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years ... we should sustain and support it.” – Mitt Romney

      “I respect and will protect a woman’s right to choose.” – Mitt Romney
      “I never really called myself pro-choice.” – Mitt Romney

      “It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam.” – Mitt Romney
      “I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and represent our country there.” – Mitt Romney

      “I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” – Mitt Romney
      “Ronald Reagan is … my hero.” – Mitt Romney

      “I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation.” – Mitt Romney
      "There’s no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs.” – Mitt Romney

      “I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.” – Mitt Romney
      “I did not see it with my own eyes.” – Mitt Romney

      “I would like to have campaign spending limits.” – Mitt Romney
      “The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates without burdensome limitations.” – Mitt Romney

      “I supported the assault weapon ban.” – Mitt Romney
      "I don’t support any gun control legislation.” – Mitt Romney

      October 22, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Reply
    • EdD

      Yea. I love it when they Romney is bascially right but we're calling him wrong and here's why. That should tell you all you need to know about CNN.

      October 22, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Reply
  16. American People

    The American People want to know the facts Willard. Show us your tax returns for the last 20 years. Willard is a criminal for not disclosing income from off-shore accounts on his tax returns.

    October 22, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Reply
    • EdD

      Wow. It's up to 20 years now? You guys are really funny.

      October 22, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Reply
  17. Sodomite

    Ahhhhh...look at the two charming sociopaths. I'd vote for the lesser of two evils except that I'd still be voting for evil. Enjoy your endless wars, sheeple.

    October 22, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Reply
    • Clayton

      Typical liberal spin by the fact checkers. Apologists for Obama.

      Check the use of propaganda in Nazi Germany by controlling the media...same thing here now.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
    • nevco

      I am an outsider following this election. Regarding the death of the ambassador, do you actuall think he would have been proctcted with the amount of people who attacked that compound. America had the entire army home when 911 occoured. People please think before you all post negative comments abouth both Mitt Romnet and President Obama. I am sure many of you who posted here are very educated people.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Reply
  18. Santex

    How can this be called fact checking? Every item negative to BHO that had a ring of truth to it was followed with a disclaimer. Unglaublich!

    October 22, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Reply
    • Andrew

      Cause Romney and Ryan are just full of a little more BS than Obama.

      October 22, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Reply
  19. greg

    This is a bunch of crap. Obama DID NOT call Benghazi an act of terror. After talking about 9/11 during his speech he said "acts of terror" would not diminish the American spirit. He never said that the Benghazi attack was an act of terror. He blamed the whole thing of some bs video that had NOTHING to do with this. Blame it on bad intelligence? Would everyone let Bush of the hook if he blamed the Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found on bad intelligence?? This President flat out lied to us about what happened and here you people are trying to let him wiggle out of that lie so he can possibly stay in office and lie to us some more?

    October 22, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Reply
    • Scottyholden

      Why does it matter to you so much? Nobody knew right away. Plus wouldn't you rather he be 100% on the facts before just blathering whatever heresay he has heard?

      It seems to me the president was trying to be responsible, and let you know the facts as opposed to whatever the media was spouting on that day. What are you so outraged about? How does you personally knowing 3 days earlier help the U.S. become a better country? Too me this seems like republicans have nothing on Obama, so you guys just pick ANYTHING that has the slight issue, and drive it into the ground. Like the 'We built it' garbage, where you took what Obama said completely out of context to make it seem the opposite. Republicans needs to wake up, your embarassing your country with your utter ignorance.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
    • Billy

      Oh yes, he did! READ the TRANScripts Greg!!!

      October 22, 2012 at 9:43 pm | Reply
  20. How's this for hope and change...biden's brother gets contract?

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2012/10/22/biden-ties-eyed-in-hillstone-iraq-deal/

    October 22, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Reply
    • Scottyholden

      you live in a bubbble. Fox isn't news. It's the joke of the world.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Reply
      • What?

        If that is true, what is CNN?

        October 22, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
      • Abromowitz

        CNN is the liberal equivalent of Fox news, and this right wing propaganda is not "news" either.

        October 22, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
      • M Vincent

        The jokes on you if you think that. What do you call all the other liberal media outlets? CNN, MSNBC...all of them are Nobama homeys.

        October 22, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
  21. larry5

    Obama should have just stuck to the truth. It's a lot less work then memorizing scripts that are nothing less than political mumbo-jumbo. If there is going to be fact checking maybe they should look back at his speeches during the past few years.

    October 22, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Reply
  22. Joe

    In other words Mitt Romney lies a lot regarding Obama's record.

    October 22, 2012 at 11:53 am | Reply
  23. PNWjim

    You righties break me up. Just because the FACTS do not jive with your train of thoughts you blame C.N.N. and you cm\ome back with Fox [NEWS?] talking points.Most of you are so dead set seeing our President be elected for 4 more years you are as crazy or lie as much as your puppet for the rich, Mitt Romney.

    October 22, 2012 at 11:52 am | Reply
    • taterbill

      It cracks me up that you 'lefties' can't read an editorial like this one (it clearly cannot claim to be an article) and not see the pro-Obama apologetics in it.

      October 22, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Reply
    • greg

      You think Obama isn't rich? Take off your rose colored glasses. How many different people can Obama blame? He has to have set a record for blaming anyone else but himself!

      October 22, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Reply
  24. diane simpson

    How much of the $16 trillion debt was attributable to the wars that were in place before Obama became president?
    How much of the $16 trillion debt was attributable to the Bush tax cuts that were extended?
    How much new debt arose under Obama and what's the allocation for those programs? that way, we can see what the breakdown is.

    October 22, 2012 at 11:34 am | Reply
    • greg

      How funny that Obama takes credit for Obama being killed, which was a process started before he took office but doesn't want to take the heat for the cost of doing that? Talk about having your cake and eating it too!

      October 22, 2012 at 11:53 am | Reply
      • greg

        *OSAMA

        October 22, 2012 at 11:53 am |
      • Romney factchecking Romney

        "I was not responsible for what happened at Bain Capital after I left" – Mitt Romney
        "I was the sole shareholder, sole Managing Director, Chief Executive Officer and President of Bain until I resigned retroactively [huh?] in 2001" – Mitt Romney

        "The Arizona immigration policy is a good model" – Mitt Romney
        "I didn't really support the Arizona immigration policy" – Mitt Romney

        “The Massachusetts healthcare plan should be a model for the nation” – Mitt Romney
        “Healthcare reform should be left to the states” – Mitt Romney

        "Let Detroit go bankrupt" -Mitt Romney
        "I'll take a lot of credit for saving the auto industry" -Mitt Romney

        “I believe Roe v Wade has gone too far.” – Mitt Romney
        “Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years ... we should sustain and support it.” – Mitt Romney

        “I respect and will protect a woman’s right to choose.” – Mitt Romney
        “I never really called myself pro-choice.” – Mitt Romney

        “It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam.” – Mitt Romney
        “I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and represent our country there.” – Mitt Romney

        “I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” – Mitt Romney
        “Ronald Reagan is … my hero.” – Mitt Romney

        “I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation.” – Mitt Romney
        "There’s no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs.” – Mitt Romney

        “I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.” – Mitt Romney
        “I did not see it with my own eyes.” – Mitt Romney

        “I would like to have campaign spending limits.” – Mitt Romney
        “The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates without burdensome limitations.” – Mitt Romney

        “I supported the assault weapon ban.” – Mitt Romney
        "I don’t support any gun control legislation.” – Mitt Romney

        October 22, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
    • Vball4

      factcheck.org is a great fact checking site... I believe I've seen articles on the figures u are asking about.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Reply
  25. diane simpson

    How much of the $16 trillion debt was attributable to the wars that were in place before Obama became president?
    How much is attributable to the Bush tax cuts that got extended?
    What is the amount of new (additional) debt created under Obama? The bottom line....

    October 22, 2012 at 11:31 am | Reply
  26. GLM2

    I wonder if Candy Crowley was paid to participate in the ambush or did she just do it for the Dear Leader.

    October 22, 2012 at 11:05 am | Reply
    • David

      are you that much afraid of facts?

      October 22, 2012 at 11:24 am | Reply
      • GLM2

        The truth is that Obama did not use the phrase “Terra Attack” to describe the Benghazi attack but to say what the US would not tolerate. It is also a fact that both he and several members of his administration, for several days, insisted that the Benghazi incident was the result of anger over a movie. They also apologized a number of times for this video though there was nothing legally that the government could or should have done to prevent it.
        It appears from both Obama’s demeanor and the speed with which he asked for the transcript that he knew that Ms. Crowley had it readily available. He could not have known this without her cooperation.
        This is an indication of just how deceptive and unethical the Obama administration can be.

        October 22, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • JA For Mitt

      candy's fat ass should of just let mitt and obama speak and not made her comments.

      October 22, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Reply
      • MT

        WOW, really?

        October 22, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
  27. THE REAL SQUIRRELLY DARROW

    AMERICAN CNN VIEWERS I WISH YOU WOULD STOP LETTING BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA COUNTING ENLISTMENTS AS JOBS GROWTH ! IT IS A DUTY SOME CHOOSE . A PATRIOTIC DUTY . WILL YOU ALLOW HIM TO COUNT POLL WATCHERS AND ELECTION JUDGES AS ON ELECTION DAY AS JOBS GROWTH TOO . THAT TOO IS A CIVIC DUTY WE CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN . HE IS TRYING TO COUNT LAST ELECTIONS POLL WATCHERS AND BOARD OF ELECTIONS JUDGES AND MILITARY ENLISTMENTS. THAT IS DISHONESTY AND HE IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH !

    October 22, 2012 at 10:53 am | Reply
    • David

      Sure, when Romney stop counting people that don't have skills to get a job. Is it Americas fault that factory workers did get a good education to fall back on int times of a recession and their factories being closed down. I don't know of any college educated people without a job. I don't have any simpathy for those with just high school education. Their the one marching and being counted on for Romney.

      October 22, 2012 at 11:29 am | Reply
    • bb

      I needed a job when I joined the navy. After I joined I considered myself employed.

      October 22, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Reply
  28. michaelfury

    [Socrates] And now, I said, let me show in a figure how far our nature is enlightened or unenlightened: –Behold! human beings living in a underground cave, which has a mouth open towards the light and reaching all along the cave; here they have been from their childhood, and have their legs and necks chained so that they cannot move, and can only see before them, being prevented by the chains from turning round their heads. Above and behind them a fire is blazing at a distance, and between the fire and the prisoners there is a raised way; and you will see, if you look, a low wall built along the way, like the screen which marionette players have in front of them, over which they show the puppets.

    - Plato

    http://pulverizedtonearpower.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/pulverized-to-near-power/

    October 22, 2012 at 9:42 am | Reply
  29. simp

    CNN, is this the best picture you could find of the President? really? his eyes are closed and there were a number of shots with his eyes open but you morons put this one in here.

    CNN you have gone over board with this fact checking (which is inaccurate most of the time) now you have a new toy where you measure the reacton of the canadates face, it's hard enough dealing with those bias undecided group of people you select for reactions during the debate.

    October 22, 2012 at 9:36 am | Reply
  30. KBNJ

    CNN's "fact checkers" use straw men 16 trillion times the size of Big Bird. The only 2 "fact checks" that deal directly with actual facts and not spin, opinions, number games, etc. are the first and the last. In the first, CNN is factually incorrect – mentioning something is NOT calling it something. In the last, they exchange the word "new" with "any" and fact check an imaginary statement. Good grief.

    October 22, 2012 at 9:34 am | Reply
  31. simp

    Wake up people, romenesia is trying to flex his muscles and start a war with Iran. Lets see how many of his sons go over there in the middle east and serve. This clown has no idea on how foreiign policy works he just sits back andl listen to that group of morons that advised W, and look where that took us, Iraq, where we should have never been.

    I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ANYBODY CAN VOTE FOR THIS LYING LOSER ROMNEY, WOMEN ESPECIALLY!

    October 22, 2012 at 9:29 am | Reply
    • greg

      So that's your argument? Would Obama send his daughters if they were of age? Did Obama serve? Or was he too busy being partied around town and sent to the country's most elite schools because of his RICH family!?

      October 22, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Reply
  32. Jon

    "Conclusion: While Romney is fairly close in assessing the size of the U.S. Naval fleet, his claim is basically pointless."

    Irony at its finest, really. Pointless? This statement is pointless in a "fact checking" article. Basically, what you're saying is, "Romney made a good estimate of the U.S. Naval fleet size." End it there. I'm pretty much in favor of Obama for this election... but even those of us that are pro-Obama think this is a bit ludicrous.

    Also, instead of "fact checking," CNN might want to look into "spell and grammar checking." "Barak?" Really?

    October 22, 2012 at 9:09 am | Reply
    • Doc

      Jon- the figure is pointless. How can you count a coal driven, wooden deck battleship the same as a nuclear powered submarine? When Romney said that the size of the navy is less than the size of the navy in 1918 he counted them the same. That is like saying "look how weak the army is, they don't even have one horse drawn cannon!"
      And he said it at a military acadamy!

      October 22, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Reply
  33. g

    i remember when reagon sent troops into lebanon 230 plus killed reagon cut and ran 230 plus seems like a lot of security ,but it happened

    October 22, 2012 at 8:58 am | Reply
  34. g

    every one working in the middle east knows the risk your in the bad guys turf.they should have beefed up their own security.i dontthink it was the first time they traveled around lybia without it

    October 22, 2012 at 8:55 am | Reply
  35. KBNJ

    Mitt Romney stated Monday that President Barack Obama "has not signed one NEW free-trade agreement in the past four years."
    CNN: it is not accurate to assert that Obama has not signed ANY free trade agreements
    New–>Any: two different words with very different meanings. CNN "fact checks" imaginary statements.

    October 22, 2012 at 8:54 am | Reply
  36. Sold Obama

    CNN doing fact check is like a asking a thief to hold your wallet. Even your fact checks are biased, Romney was right, but he was wrong!

    Crowley (groupie, AND only groupie ever to insert herself into a presidential debate. To add insult to injury, she was wrong and threw a lifeline to a guy on the ropes), Soledad O'brien (groupie), Blizter (incompetent...Where was Jesus born loser?), your whole lot is full of embarrassments. This is why your ratings are at an ALL-TIME LOW.

    October 22, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
  37. egh

    This is humorous – cnn doing a fact check article – really!!

    While the President did refer to the attack in Libya as an "act of terror" this is not the same as saying an "act of terrorism". He then spent the next 2 weeks spreading the ridicuous notion that this was the result of a little known trailer film about Islam. Why? This President is alot of things, too many to even list – liar, incompetent, are couple that would be at the top – but one thing he is not and that is stupid.

    He knew he and Hillary Clinton had botched this big time especially with the election so close. Thus, the coverup plan which culiminated with Clinton throwing herself under the bus and Obama "rescuing" her by claiming ultimate responsiblity. My guess is this was scripted based on a future payoff for Clinton when she seeks the higher office in another four years.

    For his part Romney did a poor job of delinating Obama's elaborate ruse, along with the moderators inapproprate intervention he lost that point.

    October 22, 2012 at 8:40 am | Reply
  38. In.The.Middle

    FACT CHECK: CNN does NOT report that Candy Crowly walks her comment affirming the rose garden statement back the next day. CNN, just but up a big banner that you support Obama and leave it at that. It is SO OBVIOUS, even to those of us who are not conservatives. YOU EMBARASS YOURSELVES!! Sorry, didn't mean to yell.

    October 22, 2012 at 8:35 am | Reply
  39. DC Observer

    In CNN"s latest fact check report, it says we disagree with most everything Romney is going to say Monday night. How we reasched our conclusions: We (CNN) are partisan Democrats at heart .

    October 22, 2012 at 7:59 am | Reply
  40. Tim Shepler

    "Conclusion: While Romney is fairly close in assessing the size of the U.S. Naval fleet, his claim is basically pointless. (How we reached our conclusion)" We have begun to "opinion check". CNN, you guys are not as biased as MSNBC, but still left of center. Fox is forced out there to the right just to bring some balance to things. Why not have a cable TV station that gives a truly "balanced view". Give the American people some respect and try to just report the news. Find hosts from both sides and state so. Not a bad idea to list on your website how each host and reporter voted in previous elections and their party affiliations. We all carry some bias, to be fair just be honest about yours.

    October 22, 2012 at 7:42 am | Reply
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      Tim, the problem is Romney was comparing Apples to Oranges. In 1916, the biggest component of our Navy were the Battleships with their escort vessels. There were no aircraft carriers, guided missile cruisers and destroyers, and only a handful of submarines. When I served in the FBM fleet, each one of our SSBN units carried more destructive power than the entirety the Navy during the 40s. Our Aircraft Carriers and their support units can launch attacks from hundreds of miles away from their targets. All putting additional hulls in the water will do is allow more mediocre officers to achieve commands that they will only get because of longevity or favoritism. Having fewer hulls means the boards that select the commanding officers can be more demanding of the performance and capabilities of those chosen to be the skippers.
      Now, to add another element – are you ready for the increase in shore support facilities needed for the additional ships that Gov. Romney claims we need? What we used to figure in the submarine fleet was for every person actually assigned to a boat, we needed at least 4 to 5 people assigned to a support facility. For every person assigned to a surface (non-Aircraft Carrier) ship, there were 2 to 3 people assigned to a support facility.
      If you are going to increase the number of hulls, along with the number of required support members, you must provide housing and work areas for those individuals. If they are married, they need married housing. As the pay of a married junior enlisted often does meet the economic needs of the communities where the bases and their associated housing is (like San Diego, Jacksonville, Norfolk, etc.) are you prepared for an increase in "food stamp" payments for their families to support themselves? Or would you be in favor of something as radical as actually increasing the "allowances" paid for housing (the Navy always has a waiting list for married quarters) and food subsistence? That way, they wouldn't need to apply for Section 8 housing, and Nutrition Assistance (you would be surprised how many kids in Navy families are on reduced meal costs at school).

      October 22, 2012 at 8:25 am | Reply
      • Chris

        Thanks for the opinion, but again a fact check should have no opinion in it. Paraphrased Romney stated that the Navy has the same number of ships as we did in 1916. The fact check should be only whether that is accurate or not. Now if the article is a fact check coupled with an opinion piece then it is fine to say yes he is right but it doesn't matter. As far as I could tell this was supposed to be just a fact check article, but had some serious opinions inserted. For the record, a comparison to the fleet in 1916 is purely pointless again though this is my opinion completely irrelevant to the factually accuracy of the original statement.

        October 22, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • In.The.Middle

      Thank you!!

      October 22, 2012 at 8:37 am | Reply
      • A Man Perplexed

        Yes the article is poorly done if all you want is facts. But what people really need is an unbiased account of not just the facts, but what do they mean. For example, yes, there are the same number of ships as in 1916 but these current ships have far more capabilities and are able to sufficiently protect us. Adding more ships would cost X number of dollars and would mean Y to our military families but would add Z to our safety. Then we could decide if it is worth while.

        This is the problem with these elections and government in general. There is no transparency or accountability, it's just a popularity contest of smokescreen and false promises. How many people are going to vote for Romney without having any idea how his actual economic plan works? The guy might as well be promising world peace and the elimination of all disease and money falling from the skies. These guys should have to sit down with a panel of experts and go through their "plans". Let them answer questions and be called on it when there is no substance to their promises.

        October 22, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
  41. KBNJ

    Regarding Benghazi, Romney should accuse Obama: "First you called it an act of terror, then for 2 (3?) weeks you called it a spontaneous demonstration, then you went back to calling it an act of terror – Why did you lie to us in the Rose Garden if you really didn't know at that time?"
    I'd LOVE to be a fly on the wall watching CNN's "fact checkers" writhing out of their skin over THAT.

    October 22, 2012 at 7:41 am | Reply
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      I agree. Once he called it a terrorist attack, he should have stuck with it. The problem was the CIA said they couldn't prove it was a terrorist attack, so the National Security Council advised him to tone down the "Terrorism" aspect until they could show it was. So much for our vaunted Central Lack-of-Intelligence Agency. This type of thing would never have happened when GHW Bush was in charge of the CIA. Not to put blame on anyone, but after the CIA was gutted of Arabic and Farsi speaking analysts, and HUMINT was relegated to the back burner to favor ELINT, we no longer had people working for the CIA in those areas where they could provide better assessment of the situations.

      October 22, 2012 at 8:30 am | Reply
  42. Jeckers

    I keep seeing these posts about Romney sending us to war. Why is no news agency talking about the war that Obama sent us into last year in Libya? Remember – when he went around Congress and sent our troops and personnel there? No checks and balances – no debate – no discussion – he just did it. Remember – 10 members of the House (bi-partisan) sued him last year because they felt they were not able to do their jobs? Just to make sure that we don't bring this into a partisan debate – the lawsuit was led by a House Democrat. It was eventually thrown out – but for Congress to take that step was pretty significant.

    Why do think Congress is so upset right now because of the deaths over there? They were never given the chance to do their jobs to begin with to assess whether or not it made sense to send people over there in the first place. They never had the chance to discuss what our strategy would be and, specifically, what level of personnel would be necessary for "normalization". What were our goals before and after? Perhaps had these discussions been had – we wouldn't have had insuffiicent security. There would have been bi-partisan oversight at some level. That's what checks and balances are for – to make sure we have oversight and keep us from making stupid decisions.

    What's worse is that these news organizations and the Obama Administration are making this into a bi-partisan issue. The only reason the House Republicans are doing this is because of the debates and election. Did everyone forget that this started in June 2011 last year? I think the members of the House should be "offended" by this comment as they were just trying to do their jobs in June 2011, as they are now. Just because there is a debate and an election – that means the American public doesn't have the right to know? That means that our elected officials should not be expected to their jobs?

    October 22, 2012 at 7:08 am | Reply
    • rosethornne

      Lie.

      No boots on the ground until LAST MONTH.

      You cannot howl about sending troops and howl about not enough troops all in the same breath, your head will explode from sheer stupidity.

      October 22, 2012 at 8:03 am | Reply
      • Chris

        Sure I can. "You should have never sent any troops at all, but if you are going to send troops at least send enough to do the job right." I'm not saying that is my opinion however you should at least realize that it is completely possible and legit before you start trashing someone else.

        October 22, 2012 at 10:04 am |
  43. BinaryTooth

    Here is a fact, Obama's lack of leadership in the areas of foreign policy go our ambassador to Libya killed along with 3 other Americans. Obama is a child.

    October 22, 2012 at 6:53 am | Reply
  44. Hokkun Aagorhosa

    Voting for Romney is voting for a dead horse. This moron with Romnesia is good for nothing. I am wondering how the Americans can trust this flip-flooper.

    October 22, 2012 at 6:48 am | Reply
  45. ckarke

    I wish CNN would stop beating a dead horse. Just report the news, nothing more.

    October 22, 2012 at 6:37 am | Reply
    • Bob Loblaw

      Foreign policy IS news.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Reply
  46. ckarke

    For me,I don't want a President who will push the war button first and ask questions later.

    October 22, 2012 at 6:29 am | Reply
    • Thinker23

      I'm pretty sure that either candidate will not push the war button first. The question is, however, who will push it in time to respond to a war started by someone else. Any ideas?

      October 22, 2012 at 6:42 am | Reply
      • Bob Loblaw

        "started by someone else".........such as Israel?

        October 22, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
    • In.The.Middle

      No one wants that. Make a valid statement.

      October 22, 2012 at 8:39 am | Reply
  47. saeed

    what needed is for russia and china to nuke usa britain ireland and australia nuke the entire western world nuke even western africa and brazil reduce all of them to a sea of flaming ashes.

    October 22, 2012 at 4:31 am | Reply
    • ckarke

      You need sleep.

      October 22, 2012 at 6:31 am | Reply
  48. Mordi

    A bigger military doesn't stop terrorism, it tends to increase it. How? Terrorism is predicated on covert attacks on the enemy's weak points. As we keep spreading our armies thinner, we become more vulnerable. Essentially the only way you can end terrorism with an army is committing near genocide...which I am certain an act like such is considered terror...and all you've did now is replace one terrorist group with another.

    I don't agree completely with either candidate's stance on how to address this, but I rather side with someone who isn't using a war as a way to get a nation out of a recession.

    October 22, 2012 at 3:43 am | Reply
    • Thinker23

      A bigger military will make the same "spread" of it thicker...

      October 22, 2012 at 6:05 am | Reply
    • Jeckers

      Is your point that if we have a smaller military, we can combat terrorism? I don't see that as a logical solution here. To further that point – look at the countries that are overrun by terrorism in the Middle East and Africa. They do not have strong military (or government) to protect their people and they are being overrun. The countries in Africa that are run by these extremists, Syria, etc... – all examples of countries that do not have strong military to defend itself.

      Having a smaller or weaker military for the US will do absolutely nothing to help keep this country secure. It's easy to sit here in the US and make the claim to reduce it because we have limited attacks here. But, these extremists are becoming more brazen and we will not be able to prevent these situations from happening here. The benefit to keeping the skirmishs in the Middle East is that – they don't come to the US. But once this starts happening, I suspect that many of the posters here will start questioning why we didn't have a stronger military to fight on our own land.

      I keep reading that Romney will start a war. He hasn't said that yet it keeps getting repeated over and over, as if to convince everyone that this is the truth. Yet – I see very little written on any posts about the war Obama put the US in the middle of last year in Libya. Remember – the one where Obama went around Congress and sent our military to help overthrow Gaddhafi? In September 2012, we sent military personnel and warships over to Libya a few weeks after the Ambassador's murder. Yet – I don't see any news organization covering this as it is a potential for us to go to war. That should be of great concern to US citizens because the "checks and balances" that are in place to prevent us from needlessly going into war were ignored.

      For anyone that is on this site – take the time to read more than just what CNN or any other news organization posts. News organizations will slant their views – they all do. Educate yourself on the facts as best as you can so that you can make a clear choice.

      October 22, 2012 at 6:48 am | Reply
    • In.The.Middle

      So, if we disarm ourselves, what does it look like when Iran get a nuclear weapon?

      October 22, 2012 at 8:31 am | Reply
    • KBNJ

      First, one of the few things I very strongly disagree with Romney on is increasing military spending. But claiming a larger military increases terrorism is ludicrous. It's not the size, it's how it's used. A small military that goes around killing Muslims indiscriminately will arguably increase terrorism FAR more than a strong, large military that stays home.

      October 22, 2012 at 9:19 am | Reply
  49. JR

    It's CNN's job to defend Obama. Never forget that.

    October 22, 2012 at 12:35 am | Reply
    • GLM2

      Do you actually think that CNN would biased?

      October 22, 2012 at 11:30 am | Reply
    • Bob Loblaw

      Why not? After all, it's Fox' job to excoriate him. Works out even.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
  50. Nicole Mattar

    Is this a fact check, or a bunch of excuses for fails by Obama? CNN you really need to be neutral.

    October 22, 2012 at 12:33 am | Reply
    • Gregg

      Every point on the list was unbiased. Find one that wasn't and we can discuss it, but simply stating it is biased because you don't like the results is like saying !+1=3 because you have an issue with two. It just isn't true.

      October 22, 2012 at 5:00 am | Reply
      • Ward

        "While Romney is fairly close in assessing the size of the U.S. Naval fleet, his claim is basically pointless."
        This is clearly a biased statement, this is not a fact check it is a statement about the percieved merit of a policy by a cnn analyst.

        October 22, 2012 at 5:59 am |
      • Ward

        Furthermore the writer took it upon himself to extrapolate ideas, ie the Isreal section. The writer did in no way dispute the claim made by Romney about Obama's quote. He went on to give reasons that might medigate Romneys conclusion, but did not even mention the claim. That is not fact checking, it is editorializing. Had the writer stated. "Obama did make a statement about putting "daylight" between the countries on such and such date, but there is evidence that US Israel relations are not as strained as Romney suggests..." would have been a much more impartial way of saying the same thing.

        October 22, 2012 at 6:07 am |
      • LesT

        @ward, yes pointless, how many air carriers did we have in 1916? How many subs? The single ship's capabilities and scope of operations are so different between now and 1916 that comparing them is nonsensical. (Ps. In 1918 British ship HMS Argus became the world's first carrier capable of launching and landing naval aircraft.)

        October 22, 2012 at 7:04 am |
      • KBNJ

        Unbiased?!?! The very first "fact check" is factually TOTALLY incorrect. You can't even defend it as an opinion! Obama MENTIONED "acts of terror" in the Rose Garden, he didn't CALL it an act of terror. Romney was 100% factually correct and Obama outright LIED, yet CNN has been "fact checking" in favor of the liar since DURING the debate.

        October 22, 2012 at 7:48 am |
      • In.The.Middle

        Obama did NOT call the attatck in Benghazi a "terrorist attack" the following day in the rose garden. He used the phrase "terrorists attacks" in a general term AFTER speaking about the first 9/11. THEN, he and his surrogets went on for 2 weeks blaming a video and has an innocent American perp-walked, arrested, detained, to try to cover his own behind. This is the stuff you see in Cuba!!

        October 22, 2012 at 8:44 am |
  51. Name*DOG1

    "Lying for the Lord". Google it!

    October 21, 2012 at 11:58 pm | Reply
  52. Name*DOG1

    Romney will start wars not because he wants to protect this country. His one and only reason is PROFIT! He and his kind are heavily invested in arms and military tech as well as other money makers like halliburton and kbr just like when Bush and cheney started their two wars for blood money. Romney knows American service men and women will die or be disabled but so what if there's a profit to be made. It will NEVER be one of his sons who goes into harms way, they're just like their father.

    October 21, 2012 at 11:56 pm | Reply
    • Thinker23

      Don't predict the future, you're BAD at it. Try ro discuss the present instead.

      October 22, 2012 at 6:07 am | Reply
    • Jeckers

      Why is no one talking about the war that Obama sent us into last year in Libya? Remember – when he went around Congress and sent our troops and personnel there? No checks and balances – no debate – no discussion – he just did it. Remember – Congress sued him last year because they felt they were not able to do their jobs? Just to make sure that we don't bring this into a partisan debate – the lawsuit was led by a House Democrat.

      Why do think they are so upset right now because of the deaths over there? They were never given the chance to do their jobs to begin to assess whether or not it made sense to send people over there in the first place. They never had the chance to discuss what our strategy would be and, specifically, what level of personnel would be necessary for "normalization". That's what checks and balances are for – to make sure we have oversight and keep us from making stupid decisions.

      I think the news organizations forgot to tell us that. They just want you to believe it's political and partisan issue before the election. It's not – the President overrode Congress last year and sent us to war. Google it for yourself.

      October 22, 2012 at 6:54 am | Reply
      • LesT

        @ Jeckers , You have a clear case of the ignorants.

        October 22, 2012 at 7:11 am |
    • rosethornne

      Some of Rmoney's best friends are corporations like halliburton.

      When your best buddy asks you for a tiny favor, just throw them a trillion or two, how you gonna turn that down?

      October 22, 2012 at 8:08 am | Reply
    • In.The.Middle

      Your conspiracy theory is completely lacking in evidence. The American people will throw him out after 4 years if he goes around bullying people. There is NO evidence that this would happen, through.

      October 22, 2012 at 8:46 am | Reply
  53. helenecha

    Frankly, when we see that there's an American President, who can pay great respect to the system of his country and know better on dealing with the economy in his country, then we'll expect that his foreign policy is going to be good for the people around the world to a better future.

    October 21, 2012 at 11:55 pm | Reply
  54. Dagny_Tag

    WASHINGTON (AP) – The CIA station chief in Libya reported to Washington within 24 hours of last month's deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate that there was evidence it was carried out by militants, not a spontaneous mob upset about an American-made video ridiculing Islam's Prophet Muhammad, U.S. officials have told The Associated Press.

    Care to explain that Libs, B.O., Clinton/Rice, CrowleyGate, NY Slimes, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSDNC, and last but certainly not least,....C.orrupt "N.ews" N.etwork??????????

    How does that square with your "facts"?????

    October 21, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Reply
    • Bryan

      I absolutely do not even understand this whole debate on Benghazi.

      There is no doubt this was a terror attack. Define Terror Attack: a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims.

      That would be the case regardless of what anyone calls it on TV.

      The real question is whether or not the attack was premeditated or spontaneous, and if spontaneous, was it because of the video that cause numerous demonstrations around the Arab world just hours before the attack? Could they have just used the Islamic outrage to the video as cover because the folks in the embassy would have had their guard down knowing that there were other non-violent demonstrations around the region earlier in the day? These are things that still have not been determined.

      All of that said, let's go ahead and use this tragic event as a political talking point.

      To recapped.
      1. By definition this was a terror attack and does not need someone to actually say it is an “act of terror”. The President did lump this in with all other “acts of terror” the day after the event and left no doubt that we will hunt down and bring to justice those responsible as we investigate the event.

      2. We still do not know what triggered the attack. It could have been preplanned because of 9/11, or it could have been a reaction to the video by radical groups that are already heavily armed and in the region. It could have been quickly planned that day to take advantage of the demonstrations taking place in the region because of the video. But this is why we investigate.

      3. Finally, regarding the number of security personnel. We need to find out what was asked for and why it was turned down, but it was also discussed during the Congressional hearing that it would not have change the outcome if they had received more security. This was not just a handful of armed folks and it last hours.

      October 22, 2012 at 9:34 am | Reply
  55. Growupalready

    The right wing conservative party of "No" and obstruction, can care less about the truth as they rally behind this empty core less dribble of Romney Dinggleberry. They just want the white house . . . Romney will just be a figure head.

    October 21, 2012 at 10:58 pm | Reply
    • Figurehead?

      Unfortunately, Obama has troubles working through the figures in his head. With 16 trillion in debt and mounting, Obama seems quite content with driving us right off a fiscal cliff with irreparable consequences–a domestic nightmare where women and children will suffer the most. Romney will do what Obama was either unwilling or unable to do to pull us out of this mess.

      October 21, 2012 at 11:35 pm | Reply
      • Growupalready

        Yeah, figurehead, by down sizing and out sourcing, thus passing savings on to the 1% while unemployment skyrocket out of control . . . what a mark that will leave on this economy.

        October 22, 2012 at 6:07 am |
    • Ward

      I would like to point out that during the first two years of Obama's presidency he had VERY large majorities in the house and senate and still could not pass his legislation. In fact, in order for the president to get the healthcare reform act signed he had to significantly change the policy and grant large pork barrel concessions. I think that you are right to accuse republicans of being obstructionists, they have been. However, I also feel that Republicans are justified in calling Obama a poor leader, because he has been.

      October 22, 2012 at 6:23 am | Reply
      • rosethornne

        Do you understand what a filibuster is? Or a secret hold?

        It used to be that a senator who wanted to gum up the works had to stand up and say why there was an objection to something.

        That meant all other business had to come to a halt, which was the whole idea. However, it was inconvenient so the rules wete changed.

        Now, a senator can send a note, not even declaring an objection publicly, and business just goes on while that piece of legislation is hung up, never coming to the floor for debate, much less a vote.

        Republicans have used a RECORD NUMBER of secret holds and filibusters since President Obama was sworn in.

        That means, it does not take an Americn majority to pass a vote, now it takes a completely unAmerican supermajority to overcome holds and filibusters and pass a vote.

        A majority is 51 out of 100.
        A supermajority is 61 out of 100.

        There was 61 for only a tiny short window until Senator Kennedy died. A couple of months. And he wasn't even able to be there on a daily basis.

        They couldn't even get a supermajority to vote on changing the rules to get rid of the ridiculously broken rule about supermajorities.

        So don't yipe about "majority" unless you understand the mechanics and understand how terribly broken the senate is right now.

        October 22, 2012 at 8:23 am |
  56. Craig from Pa.

    You want more war?? Vote Romney...guaranteed to happen...this idiot has no concept of foreign diplomacy...most people who would vote for him must think his wealth will rub off on them...delusional idiots

    October 21, 2012 at 10:57 pm | Reply
    • What?

      This is entirely irresponsible unfounded.

      October 21, 2012 at 11:27 pm | Reply
    • Joe

      More war, please spare me... You must be from Philadelphia and believe all that trash acorn and the fellow libs spew over there. War or no war, how about a job, how about an america who is not dependent on food stamps, government handouts, welfare, etc. We are 3 quarters of the way towards a welfare state, please don't take us over the edge...

      October 22, 2012 at 1:37 am | Reply
      • Billy

        Well Joe, if Roomey is elected President you will be taken over the edge. Roomey is a pathelogical liar. Binders of Women? 47% statement, outsourcing American jobs over seas? using the failed trickle down ecoconic theory that got us in the mess from Goerge W.. if you believe that, yes, you're a delusional idiot!

        October 22, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • In.The.Middle

      Delusional??? I'll given you delusional....someone who would vote for someone who has DOUBLED the debt AND made us a sitting duck with Iran and China and has NO WAY to get us out of any of it. Delusional is someon who would believe that if we remove all the gates, locks and alarm systems on our property that, somehow, the gang-bangers who would harm us will, instead have pity on us and leave us alone. THAT is delusional.

      October 22, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
      • Bob Loblaw

        I am truly amused that you and all the other clovers out there live in such fear.

        October 22, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Billy

      I concur Craig

      October 22, 2012 at 9:27 pm | Reply
  57. JustAGuy NJ

    Let's just be honest here. CNN is helping Obama as much as they can. Amazing how quickly the "impartial" moderator jumped in to save Obama. Stupid people will believe anything. Smart people will listen, do research and notice that the "act of terror" didn't reference the attack specifically, but was a general statement. Otherwise, this administration, led by Obama would not hold back for two weeks before calling it what it was as opposed to what they wanted it to be.

    They were hoping it wasn't a terrorist attack since it makes that "Osama is dead" claim made during the convention a joke. Osama might be dead but his followers are alive. And the fact they don't get it, is Obama's and this administrations biggest problem.

    October 21, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Reply
    • Dagny_Tag

      Exactly JustAGuy NJ:
      WASHINGTON (AP) – The CIA station chief in Libya reported to Washington within 24 hours of last month's deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate that there was evidence it was carried out by militants, not a spontaneous mob upset about an American-made video ridiculing Islam's Prophet Muhammad, U.S. officials have told The Associated Press.

      Care to explain that Libs, B.O., Clinton/Rice, CrowleyGate, NY Slimes, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSDNC, and last but certainly not least,....C.orrupt "N.ews" N.etwork??????????

      October 21, 2012 at 11:45 pm | Reply
  58. REDFIRESTORM

    a growing number of people like romney as simon and garfunkle sing "mrs. robinson" to michelle and "sound of silence" to the blinded obama believers

    October 21, 2012 at 10:25 pm | Reply
  59. Joe

    I think you need to fact check your fact checkers CNN... Please stick to the facts and not your politically motivated spin.

    October 21, 2012 at 10:09 pm | Reply
    • Moderate in MN

      Agree that CNN is biased in support of Obama. The CNN fact checkers went beyond checking facts in order to help Pres. Obama save face. Where has CNN clarified that their moderator was wrong about her facts and interrupted Gov. Romney to insert her misleading statement?

      October 22, 2012 at 12:12 am | Reply
  60. profeucalypt

    So except for a few points, and those quite disputable ones, the truth in every case here is on the side of the Democrats. Not that the Republicans care, and not that the right-wing media lords do either.

    October 21, 2012 at 10:08 pm | Reply
    • Truly

      Nope, the fact is: he did refer to acts of terror but did NOT call that particular incident an act of terror. Pure cover-up but not surprised the spin continues.

      October 21, 2012 at 10:49 pm | Reply
    • Ward

      Do you suppose that your statement would be applicable to a fact check run by FOX news. Don't let an article written by someone become evidence of who is right or wrong, you risk letting yourself be misled. Instead read the information and follow up on the issues that you find egregious, check what the people you disagree with say. That is how you become informed. It is a bummer that the two best sources for impartial informatin (although they are still somewhat biased) are foriegn (Al Jazeera and BBC).

      October 22, 2012 at 6:46 am | Reply
      • Jeckers

        Agreed – read the news sites, but do you own research and make your own mind up. Don't follow the herd.

        October 22, 2012 at 6:57 am |
  61. annie

    Odd that the repubs are against deficit spending, especially to create jobs, but are pushing for a huge increase in basically unfunded defense spending partially to keep jobs, and no doubt, create jobs. It's the repub form of a job stimulus. Wouldn't this money be better spent in improving roads, bridges, and other infrastructure?

    October 21, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Reply
    • Truly

      What good is infrastructure if we remain under constant terrorist threat because our foreign policy and military are so weak?

      October 21, 2012 at 10:51 pm | Reply
      • coflyboy

        Yeah, really. What country needs infrastructure?Who needs roads and dams and bridges and electrical grid?. That stuff is for those damn progressive, socialist, liberal countries competing in a global economy.

        October 22, 2012 at 2:44 am |
      • Bob Loblaw

        We spend more on our military than the next 25 countries (majority of them allies) combined. The only "weakness" here is in regard to your intelligence.

        October 22, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
  62. carlos

    willard and LDS = Lie...Deceive...Smear, the polygamists sect.

    October 21, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Reply
    • Truly

      You want to talk about real lies? Google "Obama lies" to find a hefty list.

      Romney/Ryan 2012/America vs. Obama/Biden/Marxism

      October 21, 2012 at 10:54 pm | Reply
      • Jay

        Also check Mitt Romney

        October 21, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
  63. carlos

    the willard will keep on lying, just like he did in Mass. when he ran for governor, like he did in the repubics primaries, like he has done and still doing in his nauseating political ads, and like he has done in the two debates, what a f_ _king PREVARICATOR, and people are voting for this POS?

    October 21, 2012 at 8:51 pm | Reply
  64. michael

    THE FACTS, "ROBME AND LYIN RYAN" ARE LIARS, DECEIVERS, MISLEADING, HYPOCRITES! SOUNDS LIKE I AM TALKING ABOUT TWO DEVILS NOT SOCALLED CHRISTIANS! I DO NOT TRUST THEM!

    October 21, 2012 at 8:42 pm | Reply
  65. works4me

    Romney doesn't want a smarter nation, he wants a more militarized nation. In effect a world bully, where we can cram our values and traditions down the throats of any sovereign nation we see fit to. If other nations want Civil War, let them. We had ours and learned the hard way to be tolerant of others, to be united... to be a nation of citizens.
    Romney wants to boost the military with money they haven't asked for, with men and women whose lives we can no longer sacrifice for the entire rest of the world. He wants to boost the military not with smarter leaders and methods, but with hardware. Hardware costs trillions!!
    Wars cost trillions!! LIVES COST HISTORY!
    Wake up America. IF Romney wins we all lose. Your sons lose as the draft comes back. Forget college! Forget education!
    Make war, not love.
    Vote Romney

    October 21, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Reply
    • Truly

      Plain fact: strong defense lessens the chance of war.

      October 21, 2012 at 10:56 pm | Reply
      • Bryan

        Can you define "strong defense"? Is there a dollar amount you would put on a "strong defense"? How much defense do would be lost if we go from $650 billion per year to $550 billion per year? How much is gained if we go from $650 billion dolars a year to $850 billion per year?

        October 22, 2012 at 9:45 am |
      • Bob Loblaw

        Is that why we're constantly embroiled in them?

        October 22, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • Truly

      If you carry a big stick it deters conflict. Something most of us learned on the kindergarten playground.

      October 21, 2012 at 10:58 pm | Reply
      • Bob Loblaw

        Bullying by any other name.....

        October 22, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
      • Doc

        a big stick only works if you use it. (Mental image of the guy pretending to be a Jedi knight using a big stick)
        A big stick only works when it hits the right target and at the right time Intel matters more. you cannot put a cost on good Intel. Intel matters more than power.

        October 22, 2012 at 6:42 pm |

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