Intelligence on Benghazi shifted after Obama administration described attack as 'spontaneous'
October 19th, 2012
07:33 PM ET

Intelligence on Benghazi shifted after Obama administration described attack as 'spontaneous'

An Obama administration official whose now controversial comment that the attack on the U.S. mission in Libya was "spontaneous" relied on talking points provided by the CIA based on its assessment that an intelligence official said on Friday was updated days later with new information.

The disclosure to CNN appears to offer some clarity around the Obama administration's early stage explanation of the September 11 attack by armed militants that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

But CNN National Security Contributor Fran Townsend injected a new element into the crucial time line on Friday night, reporting on Anderson Cooper 360 that senior intelligence officials had multiple conversations with senior White House officials in the first 24 hours after the attack.

Townsend, a former homeland security and counterterrorism adviser to President George W. Bush, added that "we don't know" what was said.

"But I can tell you from having lived through these crises, you're getting a constant feed of what the intelligence community understands about what is currently going on and what has happened on the ground," Townsend said.

She added that "they will caveat the information" because in the first hours there "will be all sorts of information, some of it which will turn out not to have been true."

Additionally, a senior Republican lawmaker said members of Congress had information from intelligence officials within a day of the incident that it was a military style attack.

President Barack Obama faces harsh criticism from Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney for his administration's handling of security in Benghazi ahead of the attack and its slow-to-evolve explanation of what occurred.

Also: Confusion and contradiction about Benghazi suspects

The issue is expected to be highlighted on Monday when the candidates square off in their third and final debate, which will focus on national security. Romney is trying to undercut Obama's perceived strength with the electorate on foreign affairs in a tightly contested campaign.

Romney has claimed the Obama administration's statements about the attack in the days that followed were confusing at best, and illustrate his contention that the president's foreign policy is incoherent and has made America less respected and more more vulnerable.

Republicans have seized on televised remarks made five days after the attack by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice. In one appearance, she said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that an assessment based on the best information available indicated a spontaneous reaction to demonstrations over an anti-Muslim film produced in the United States.

Several senior administration officials told CNN that Rice's use of the word "spontaneous" came directly from an assessment provided to Congress by the CIA and was not edited by the White House.

"The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations," the document stated.

But the intelligence official said it took days to sort out information around the attack.

"It wasn't until after the points were used in public that people reconciled contradictory information and assessed there probably wasn't a protest around the time of the attack," the official told CNN.

With regard to initial thinking the incident started as a protest – an administration official maintained that intelligence coming from human sources and intercepts all indicated there was a protest on the scene. At the time, there were many demonstrations across the Middle East over the film.

The early talking points outlining the incident as spontaneous were written so members of Congress and senior officials could say something publicly about the attack, the intelligence official said.

"A key question early on was whether extremists took over a crowd or if the guys who showed up were all militants. It took time—until that next week—to sort through varied and sometimes conflicting accounts to understand the group’s overall composition,” the intelligence official said.

But House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, a Michigan Republican, told CNN that the panel had information from the intelligence community within 24 hours of the incident that it was a military style attack.

"If you look at all of the information leading up to (the attack) from an intelligence perspective, it's really confounding how you can come to a conclusion and then promote it for days in the face of all of that information that this was about a video," Rogers said.

The new disclosure, however, raises the question of whether intelligence officials are now being blamed for confusion about Benghazi events.

"The intelligence community is not being blamed. Administration officials have made it very clear, the (intelligence community) is providing the best possible assessment it can, another U.S. intelligence official said. "There is no sense anyone is throwing the (intelligence community) under the bus."

Separately, a Senate committee has requested documents and a classified briefing from intelligence officials about the Benghazi time line and whether statements by administration officials were inaccurate.

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee also wants to know about threat assessments and security concerns before the attack. A hearing is planned when lawmakers return to Washington after the election.

Romney suggested at Tuesday's debate in New York that the Obama administration played politics by failing to immediately acknowledge what occurred in Benghazi was a terror attack. Obama bristled, calling that claim "offensive."

When Obama said he described the attack as an act of terror the day after it occurred, Romney challenged him. Obama responded by saying, "check the transcript" of White House remarks on the incident.

CNN's Pam Benson and Suzanne Kelly contributed to this report

Filed under: 2012 Election • Ansar al Shariah • Barack Obama • Congress • Libya • Libya • Rep. Mike Rogers • Romney • State Department • Susan Rice
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  1. home personal training

    This women got thrown to the dogs, I feel bad. The Obama administration as a whole are responsible for this. Not just her.
    What kills me is no one has been arrested yet, that we know of.

    April 12, 2014 at 9:52 am | Reply
    • michaeldmayo

      'this women' was complicit in the process of duping the American people and she should be removed from any public service position she has and actually PROSECUTED. Go feel sorry for THE PEOPLE THAT DIED and the families that Osama Obama and Hillary Duff PROMOSED TO AVENGE "RELENTLESSLY AND TIRELESSLY" but in fact HAVEN'T DONE A G*&(DA^M THING IN 2 YEARS!!!!!

      May 4, 2014 at 9:45 pm | Reply
  2. MainelyDoc

    Why ALL of the lying from the Obama administration?

    October 24, 2012 at 9:18 pm | Reply
    • Yvette47

      The current administration is corrupt and has lost all credibility. So has most of the media (and I am including CNN).

      It would be nice to (once again) seeing "reporters" and "journalists" simply reporting, without bias.

      October 25, 2012 at 8:07 am | Reply
      • Hux

        I totally agree. CNN has lost a lot of credibility with us also. So bias. They'll sit on anything about Obama. If he's found to be a liar ,he should face the strongest charges there is and hoisted from the white house. How can the American people let him stay . He has to go .

        November 13, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
  3. PeterD

    President Obama and His Administration have been Lying Over & Over over Libya Attack in order to Please American Muslim Allies and NOT American People.

    October 22, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Reply
  4. Cindy

    What I do remember is that after our Ambassador and others were murdered, our flags were being desecrated in severl Arab countries, and our President, and Hilary Clinton and other officials were immediately APOLOGIZING to the perpetrators of the crime and were blaming this terrorist attack on an obscure film. The Obama regime was more concerned about offending Muslims than Defending Americans. That says a lot! Who does Obama serve? Americans for Muslims?

    October 22, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Reply
    • Cindy

      When I look back 4 years ago I am reminded of one of Obama's first speechs abroad was to go to Egypt and APOLOGIZE for America! He sings the praises of Muslims and reprimands Americans. And we are in la-la-land listening to all the "double-speak" and rhetoric. Enough already!

      October 22, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Reply
    • Deborah

      AMEN!!! America wake up

      October 22, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Reply
    • whosear

      Apologize? The Cairo speech? No apologies there. In fact, he described the US as, 'E Pluribus Unum", which is a cornerstone of conservatism!!!! This apology crap is simply the Big Lie...a lie repeated often enough becomes a truth. Stop repeating the lie or point out via reliable sources where President Obama apologized.

      October 22, 2012 at 4:51 pm | Reply
      • BobD

        Keep drinking your kool-aid their buddy....

        October 28, 2012 at 9:37 am |
  5. On Streetwise

    This is a White House Security briefing given to George W. Bush, from Al Gore, before he took the office of President of the USA., we all should remember this warning... WELL!
    Intelligent briefing August 10, 2001; “Al Qaeda determined to attack the U.S.” from (personally) Richard A. Clark, National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism for the United States, to Pres. G. W. Bush and Vice Pres. Dick Chaney and Def. Secretary Donald Rumsfield during a weekend/retreat meeting at the Texan White House.
    On September 11, an attack on the diplomatic post killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three others... Totaled; 4 killed on Obama's watch.
    On September 11, 2001. two AA planes flew into the Trade Center of Twin Towers in New York... Totaled; over 3000 killed of U.S. citizens on Bush's watch.

    Put it in prospective, this was a briefing given to George W. Bush and Dick Chaney, from Al Gore, before he took the office President of the USA., we all should remember this warning... WELL! And now you ask... just who dropped the ball here?

    October 22, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Reply
    • sonny chapman

      If 9-11 would have happened on a Dem. President's watch, the Repubs. would have had a real reason to Impeach a Prez. Instead, the Patriotic Repubs. covered Lil W.'s butt-again.

      October 22, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Reply
    • TheTruth

      We had no warning that Muslims would hijack 747s and fly them into the towers: Clinton had gutted our intelligence services. On the other hand, Benghazi had 48 security incidents in the 60 days leading up to the murders, including 2 bombings. Hillary's response was to order that security be kept artificially low. Her right-hand lady stated under oath that there were no budget contraints preventing an increase in seciruty. Obama and Clinton bear full responsibility.

      October 22, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Reply
      • harinder

        even if you had a contigent of matines on the ground they would have been outnumbered and resulted in more deaths. The balme lies on Libyan government and and to some extent american in opening a consulate in Benghazi. Whatever diplomatic office was to open it should have been in Tripoli

        October 22, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Brewer1

      How could George Bush get a briefing from Al Gore on an intelligence brief dated August 2011 before he took office in January 2011?

      October 22, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Reply
  6. me

    Get your facts straight. this lying administration already tried to bame the republicans for funding cuts for security and they were exposed for the liars ttheyy are. Try reading and not just towing the party line

    October 22, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Reply
  7. Calvin

    Good catch! Fran Townsend was a Bush admin. official and she would do her very best to be biased and pull for the Republicans. I bet CNN got accused for siding with Obama by the Romney camp and now CNN is taking their side. It is obvious in recent times how their experts pulling for Romney. Can we have at least one station completely unbiased, please? FoxNews is for the Republicans and MSNBC is for the Democrats, why can't CNN stays neutral and not get reports from former Bush aministration offcials? Please.

    October 22, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Reply
  8. Lee Oates

    If the results in the poles don't seem to follow events, it's because noone wants to mentiion the 600 lb gorilla in the room. It's simply because about half of the American population are racist, mostly the Republican half. They want the "blackman" out of the "white" house. Nothing Obama does counts, nothing will convince them to vote for him. They will instead vote for a "whiteman", that is essentially a liar and a theft, and a con-man. Look at what Romney did to Freeport, Illinois, out of greed and a total lack of ethics. Only a self-destructive person would vote for someone who plans to remove the safety net, legislate against women, and whose party has done everything it could to suppress the vote. The election is about white privilege, and fear of minorities.

    October 22, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Reply
    • Diane

      Although I would like to get to the bottom of this story too, I can't help but recall how the Bush Administration had previous knowledge of the 911 attacks in N.Y., Pa and Washington but did nothing to help prevent it. The attacks resulting in thousands killed including the thousands in Iraq, etc. Why do the repubs never bring this up???

      October 22, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Reply
    • BobD

      Let's see 90% of blacks voted for O and are expected to again, but that's not racist. Oh yeah right, in your deluded world and most of the left, only white people are racist. Chug that kool-aid!!!

      October 28, 2012 at 9:43 am | Reply
  9. Jerry

    For those with short memories. Both Clinton and Bush administrations made serious errors regarding intelligence reports. It happens.

    However Bush/Cheney went one further and added complete fabrication of intelligence. That resulted in an unnecessary war bringing with it the loss of many valiant US military, and countless Iraqis lives.

    In addition it helped ensure US heading for bankruptcy (while enriching defense contractors and other corporations) and now the bill needs to be settled by reducing my social security.

    And what did the discerning American voters do, after all the cards were face up on the table? Re-elect Bush.

    So regardless of what truth eventually emerges about the tragedy in Libya, we can still count on voters to get it wrong.

    October 22, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Reply
    • Dave

      The Libya issue is such a lie. Perhaps Obama made an indirect reference to terrorism in the rose garden, but then he went on the View and Letterman (taking advantage of crises like he always does) to blame America by stating that the attack was due to some video no one has seen. Then, Clinton repeats the line along with the White House Spokesman several times. Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., went on five networks' Sunday shows and cast the attack as hardly a coordinated strike by terrorists. She said:
      "We are obviously investigating this very closely. The FBI has a lead in this investigation," Rice said Sept. 16 on "Fox News Sunday." "The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control.
      "But we don't see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, premeditated attack. Obviously, we will wait for the results of the investigation and we don't want to jump to conclusions before then. But I do think it's important for the American people to know our best current assessment."
      Meanwhile, Biden suggests in the VP debate they didn’t know what happened and Clinton takes responsibility for the fiasco. I give CNN some credit for standing up to the administration when they retrieved the Ambassador’s journal. However, they and the rest of the media have been quiet about the congressional hearings. PATHETIC COVERUP and embarrassing journalism!

      October 22, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Reply
      • Red-mal

        Why does Romney say that it is bad to say we will leave Afghanistan in 2014. He says that we are showing the enemy are hand about the event that may or may not occur in two years. However he thinks it is perfectly fine to Air all the details about How we protect our embassies and consulates around the world and exactly how we will react when another situation like Bengasi comes up, He is certainly more concerned about political gain for himself and he is the safety and security are consulates and embassies

        October 22, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • Howard


      Obama has been using, and exploiting the middle class and below, since day one. In reality, his failed policies have raised the prices of everything they need to survive. Thanks to Obama, the children and grandchildren of the middle class and below, will suffer with enormous Obama spending and debt. Immigrants, who risked everything to come here, are also being exploited by Obama, for their votes ... for Obama is systematically eliminating opportunities for individuals to build a business, and provide a better life for their children. Obama is turning America into the same kind of third world country, these people escaped from. And, regarding religion ... Obama uses religion, when it benefits him. He attended Wright's anti-American, racist church for TWENTY YEARS, to establish a political base with the black community ... only to throw them under the bus, when they became a political liability.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Reply
  10. Dagny_Tag

    WASHINGTON (AP) – The CIA station chief in Libya reported to Washington within 24 hours of last month's deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate that there was evidence it was carried out by militants, not a spontaneous mob upset about an American-made video ridiculing Islam's Prophet Muhammad, U.S. officials have told The Associated Press.

    Care to explain that Libs, B.O., Clinton/Rice, CrowleyGate, NY Slimes, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSDNC, and last but certainly not least,....C.orrupt "N.ews" N.etwork?????????

    October 22, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Reply
  11. betterdays

    Come on already, everyone knows it happened because of a YouTube video. Weren't you people paying attention to the news during the week after the attack? Half of the administration was on TV (here and in Afghanistan) sying it was because of a YouTube video. So that settles it.

    October 22, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Reply
  12. Alfuso

    FYI and FWIW – the Embassy is in Tripoli, the Capitol of Libya. The Consulate is in Benghazi, so people do not have to travel all the way to the Capitol.

    Consulates are accessible and not as heavily guarded. It's the nature of making it less formal.

    The Embassy requested extra agents and protection and received it. But Cnsulate was denied extending the current guards' tour there, because State Dept concerns were centered on the Embassy in Tripoli.

    "The requests were denied, but they were largely focused on extending the tours of security guards at the American Embassy in Tripoli — not at the diplomatic compound in Benghazi, 400 miles away. And State Department officials testified this week during a hearing by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that extending the tour of additional guards — a 16-member military security team — through mid-September would not have changed the bloody outcome because they were based in Tripoli, not Benghazi." NYT

    October 22, 2012 at 11:37 am | Reply
  13. Context123

    Over the coming weeks, I am sure we will get a more clear picture of all that happened. Of course Obama would issue more protection if the attacks were imminent, but I wonder how many of these warnings come to his attention all the time many of which does not develop into a situation where Americans lose their lives.. Easy for the Republicans to be monday morning quaterbacks and at the same time not keep in context the role of Republicans during the Bush administrations WMD campaign.

    October 22, 2012 at 11:11 am | Reply
  14. Ben

    Just ridiculous that CNN and the Media is allowing Obama to get cover behind this "well the Intelligence community told us this argument." The attack occurred on on September 11. It lasted for hours. It included armored personal carriers and rockets. Everyone knew this including me and anyone who could read. Groups of angry civilians with a few AK-47s do not do this and anyone, and I mean anyone, who does not see this is not very bright.

    October 22, 2012 at 10:34 am | Reply
    • ghostriter

      Well, that doesn't make much sense. The administration made several statements. There were only misleading to republicans looking for something to stick.

      October 22, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Reply
  15. MontanaTrace

    Maybe it's just as well that Pres. Obama doesn't attend the Intelligence Briefings.

    Then again, did his failure to be in the know, cause inaction? Is he indirectly the cause of not protecting our people?

    October 22, 2012 at 10:17 am | Reply
    • Dave

      Ha ha, that is a great one! Obama has been portrayed as the most intellectually savvy of all Presidents when it comes to intelligence, but he doesn't attend them. Then he conveys a story and sticks with it in spite of an abundance of evidence.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Reply
  16. MontanaTrace

    Change the story again. We're losing too many votes.

    October 22, 2012 at 10:13 am | Reply
  17. oreo

    I still think it was the youtube video, just like O'Bombya stated.

    October 22, 2012 at 8:32 am | Reply
  18. Guy

    Just sat thru Rudies Rant! Didn't like him as Mayor would never vote for him as President. He's a pompous jerk with one opinion, his. Good thing he never made any mistakes, oh yeah he forgot to tell his wife he was cheating on her. But I guess we should listen to a practiced lair like this over someone whose done his best to be honest.

    October 22, 2012 at 8:25 am | Reply
    • Ben

      And this has what to do with the faux Lybia timeline or the cover up of the political lies about it (which I find offensive)? Just another hide and distract tactic of the left...

      October 22, 2012 at 10:36 am | Reply
  19. TJeff1776

    Winston Churchill stated "during wartime, any truth about current events is always cloaked with a lie". WE ARE AT WAR WITH TERRORISM. Any truth about true conditions handed the congress AND the public is also handed out to our enemies.

    October 22, 2012 at 5:54 am | Reply
  20. mmi16

    Political posturing – noting more and nothing less.

    October 22, 2012 at 3:55 am | Reply
    • Dave

      By Obama. Romney is telling the truth here and even Candy replied he was "right in the main" on the issue the day after the debate.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Reply
  21. Rex Remes

    What's offensive about this is the fact that Obama refers to Amb. Stevens as a friend, yet his administration turned down requests from him (the consulate) for more security. When asked about this, someone in the Administration admitted this and stated the reason for denying the request was they felt more security was not needed (there was no mention of a lack of funding).

    Obama did have to be there when the coffins came home. That was his job. But instead of giving the American people the run around on what happened, instead of denying requests for more security, instead of blaming others ... Obama should look at those coffins and realize that he and his Administration messed this one up. And people are dead because of their mess up.

    I'm sure Obama feels bad. I am sure he is hurting inside. I am sure if he had it all to do over, he would do things different. But when it comes to people's lives ... there is no such thing as a 'do over'.

    October 22, 2012 at 3:33 am | Reply
    • dan

      You have to remember that Obama thinks he is a saint with no fault in anything. His staff is there to buffer any and all questions and then delegate blame to whomever they can.

      October 22, 2012 at 10:50 am | Reply
    • t

      Stevens never requested more security. In fact, he wanted a low security presence nation wide. A former security person requested more security (6 additional people, 3 of which would be on guard at any one time). If the request was granted the only result would be 7 dead instead of 4.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Reply
      • Alfuso

        "The requests were denied, but they were largely focused on extending the tours of security guards at the American Embassy in Tripoli — not at the diplomatic compound in Benghazi, 400 miles away. And State Department officials testified this week during a hearing by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that extending the tour of additional guards — a 16-member military security team — through mid-September would not have changed the bloody outcome because they were based in Tripoli, not Benghazi."

        October 22, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
  22. evensteven

    There's no big issues for me on the way Obama handled this situation. The Republicans have been like a pack of hungry wolves waiting to attack, defame and demean any little thing they can pin on Obama. This whole thing reflects much more poorly on the Republican state of mind than anything else. Their whining is eternal . . .

    October 22, 2012 at 3:05 am | Reply
  23. Golden Girl

    "But House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, a Michigan Republican, told CNN that the panel had information from the intelligence community within 24 hours of the incident that it was a military style attack."

    I remember that several news stories withing a couple days included the fact that people were speculating it was a military style attack so I'm pretty sure this info was available way before the administration wanted to admit it to the American people.

    October 22, 2012 at 1:25 am | Reply
  24. Tony in STL

    The only thing this country will get from a romney administration is a lot more dead young Americans, and a whole lot of hardship beyond the likes of gw bush. That's all. Be as stupid and ignorant as you like, you have the right.

    October 22, 2012 at 1:09 am | Reply
    • yokum61

      Too bad Obama's trying to blame a lame video tape for the deaths of four American's has been exposed as a coverup, fake analysis, and not BO has egg on his face. Why did BO pull security from Bengazi before 9/11. Just plain dumb, but an effort to make the USA look as through or support of these Libian rebels, has REALLY paid off. And now they are killing our Ambassadors. – Thanks BO!

      October 22, 2012 at 1:28 am | Reply
      • Lisa

        I am so tired of the SLANT on CNN and Soledad, you used to be respectful..are you to seasoned to be neutral? Last debate Candy C. called it a fact when President was asked about attack This morning.. OB Knows exactly whats going on and how to shift blame..Hillary,video, or miss info from Team?? Which is it?? We now know it was not a TRUE FACT from last debate!!! No one seems to want to be sad for Americans

        October 22, 2012 at 8:36 am |
    • yokum61

      Tony,If you look at the last 50 years of wartime history, it was Kennedy, and Johnson, who cost us 50,000 American lives, 10x what it cost to kill thousands of radical muslims and offer freedom to the people of Iraq. Obama, wasting our time and treasure in Afghanistan is the true failure of American foreign policy. We are fighting for nothing there, with no objective. Even our Afghanistani "friends", the one's we're training are killing our guys under Obama.

      October 22, 2012 at 1:32 am | Reply
    • calvin

      Our best bet is to get out of all muslium nation. they hate us and never will like us being in there afairs. these people have bend killing there own for 5 thousand years. we can still do busness with them but keep our armed service out.

      October 22, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Reply
  25. acspore

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    October 22, 2012 at 1:04 am | Reply
    • Derrick, Atlanta

      If you pay attention to polls, you should consider the realclearpolitics poll. It looks at a running average of all the major polls (and gives you a better idea).

      October 22, 2012 at 4:02 am | Reply
  26. lizzytalorburton

    come on, this obama is not in his right mind. He says that he knew it was a terrorist attack right away and said so in the Rose Garden? What kind of President knows that its a terror attack and that 4 Americans from his country were tortured and murdered and then right away flys off to a party and fund raising event for himself in Vegas? That alone should tell you what kind of man he is, he has no sympathy, no empathy and can laugh, party and raise money for himself after that? He's a fake.

    October 22, 2012 at 12:10 am | Reply
  27. Greg C.

    It's always much easier to tell the truth rather than lie about it and attempt to cover up the facts with yet more lies. No, this administration would have been better leveling with the American public. Clearly, this was a failure of the administration to provide adequate security long in advance of the 9/11/12. It also brings into question, why this administration ignored numerous incidents and failed to either increase security detail or move Ambassador Stevens and other consulate personnel to a more secure area. This situation has now unfolded and brought to like this administration's failed policy of appeasement and their misguided measures to pin blame on a movie trailer including using tax payer funds to pay for ads in Islamic countries apologizing for something they didn't need to do. Instead, it further inflamed the matter and led to more violence. How can we trust an administration and for that matter liberal media outlets that mask or hide the truth. This is the same organization that brought you the gun running fiasco, Fast and Furious that cost the life of one of our border patrol agents and countless lives of others in Mexico.

    October 21, 2012 at 11:52 pm | Reply
    • Pete

      @Greg C,remember under the Bushs administration you would have never heard any of this and more.Remember the intel given to his admin from Clinton on terrorists plots and 9/11 or the crash of Wall Street didn't hear that coming did yah..Governments will let you know when you're supposed to hear it but because republicans hate Pres.Obama so much because he's black they make big of everything that happens on his watch,republicans are racist and there's no denying it,same hate as decades ago but more public because of the internet and tv!!So if you republicans are so racist quit beating around the bush,its pretty obvious nitwits!!

      October 22, 2012 at 12:04 am | Reply
      • David

        You might not realize this, but Bush is not the president. His past failures don't excuse the current failures of our current president.

        October 22, 2012 at 11:57 am |
  28. BCYY

    We have 4 Americans dead and obvious cover up going on. This is the most important story in the news and CNN barely covers it. Some "news" organizations don't cover it at all. Dishonest press covers for dishonest President.

    October 21, 2012 at 11:44 pm | Reply
  29. Jeffrey2012

    Here is the unskewed polling data as of today, as you can see Romney is enjoying a comfortable lead in all polls and should have no problem cruising to victory in just over 2 weeks.

    UnSkewed Polling Data Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:17:04 PM

    UnSkewed Avg./10/7-10/16/–/–/+4.5D/45.3/49.9/Romney +4.6
    Hartford Courant/UConn/10/11-10/16/1023/LV 3.0/+8 D/45.0/48.0/Romney + 3
    Politico/GWU/Battleground/10/11-10/14/1000 LV/3.1/+3 D/46.0/51.0/Romney +5
    Wash. Post/ABC News/10/10-10/13/923 LV/3.5/+9 D/47.0/51.0/Romney +4
    Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun/10/8-10/10/1360 LV/2.7/+3 D/45.0/48.0/Romney +3
    Fox News/10/7-10/9/1109 LV/3.0/+1 D/43.0/46.0/Romney +3
    IBD/TIPP/10/11-10/16/931 LV/3.5/+8 D/45.0/52.0/Romney +7
    Rasmussen/10/15-10/17/1500 LV/3.0/+3 D/46.0/51.0/Romney +5
    Gallup/10/10-10/16/2700 LV/2.0/+1 D/45.0/52.0/Romney +7

    October 21, 2012 at 11:44 pm | Reply
    • keepmelaughing

      Boy you all talk like you have access to the intelligence yourselves. I find you comments laughable. You espouse your petty opinion as fact. When you really don't know jack. You look for anyway possible to hate on this president. the guy with the polls if definitly smoking something.

      October 22, 2012 at 12:25 am | Reply
    • Derrick, Atlanta

      I'm afraid your polls are outdated... and obnoxiously biased.

      October 22, 2012 at 4:05 am | Reply
    • Tom

      The only "POLE" you should care about is the one this government will stick up your butt no matter who wins.

      October 22, 2012 at 9:00 am | Reply
  30. dd

    We are at the point where there will be so many lies coming out of the Obama Administration that the truth will never be known. We have the most corrupt President in history who will lie to anyone to cover his mistakes. Heck, I fear he'd bomb an American city to protect his ego!

    October 21, 2012 at 11:07 pm | Reply
  31. Joe

    This administration should be tried, found guilty and put into jail for the lies and cover-up. How many times can you change a story? It's a new record, ask Obama... Who's stupid, Obama or the people that vote for this clown. Glad I already voted and it wasn't for the liar and chief. If he does get re-elected, who are you libs going to blame for the next four years of failures. I say he only tax you for his plans because I will not contribute a dime towards his failed policies. If you love him that much, then give him all your money, but leave mine alone.

    October 21, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Reply
    • allison

      If that is the case then the entire Bush administration should have been tried and jailed for the attack on 9/11. They ignored repeated warnings then turned around and lied in order to start a war with a country who had nothing to do with it.

      October 21, 2012 at 11:03 pm | Reply
      • NS Bingo

        How about Bill Clinton failing to authorize killing UBL in 1999? Perhaps you should first read up on the topic before you post your tripe.

        October 21, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
      • Catalina

        Did I miss something, is Bush running again?

        October 21, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
      • calvin

        Kool aid drinker at work Obama say and the do.Obama has blamed more people for his short coming then any man i have heard. bush, congress ryan any one who takes a view that not his. his frist 2 years he had both parts of congress and still could not get a budget done.

        October 22, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • yokum61

      Obama and Clinton just made the claim that Bush produced the "internet video tape."

      October 22, 2012 at 1:35 am | Reply
    • JP

      When you can not win on substance, go for fear. That is all Romney has left, create fear to get votes.

      October 22, 2012 at 9:31 am | Reply
      • David

        Unlike the president, who is diligently laying out his plan for a second term, completely focused on that plan and having nothing to do with creating fear and hatred of his opponent.

        October 22, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
  32. Pete

    If you want screwups why not go back to "83 and the two embassy breaks and 70 killed under Reagans watch.Did Sec.George Schultz resign after the two in one year in Lebanon, Kuwait took place and has any additional security been implimented since "83,ask your boy Issa because all he's done was cut the defense fund by over 400 million and that cut included security just for those embassies!Republicans quit passing the buck because with you the buck doesn't stop with you and you ignorently know it!!

    October 21, 2012 at 10:07 pm | Reply
    • Bob the Janitor

      Speaking of "passing the buck", it seems as though the President should stop making excuses, blaming others, and step up to the plate!!!

      The problem with this administration is that our so-called President is more interested than visiting Letterman and The View than being a responsible, authentic leader! NEXT!!!

      October 22, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Reply
      • Prairie Woman

        AMEN to that!

        October 22, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
  33. jerrylax

    the problem is failed foreign policy...a president who does not work with others and therefore has a horrible record domestically and abroad...a mess. We are just beginning to see the ramifications of this, and it is going to get worse. obama is doing all he can to hold the lid on this can...until after the elections.

    October 21, 2012 at 9:47 pm | Reply
    • Pete

      @jerrylax,the president has fixed many a foriegn policy problem created by Bush,so don't talk about subjects you're definitly foriegn in..Bush has sword rattlings with everyone from Russia on down and America for 8 long years was the laughing stock of the civilized world.Remember the shoe incident,remember the China speech and Bush couldn't get off the stage ,just a few of more memorible moments in foriegn policy..How bout his disregarding intel from the Clinton administration on the terrorist plot and 9/11,got anything to say constructively about that or his lies that created two wars, anything there from you either,I bet not!!

      October 21, 2012 at 10:19 pm | Reply
  34. Cindy

    Let's hope OBAMESIA can be eradicated. I read about it on another blog which describes it as:

    OBAMANESIA: it's lethal and happens when you can't remember important facts such as what precipitated an American Ambassador and others to be attacked and murdered in Libya. It causes you to repeatedly cover up the facts with a soiled bandage, but the wound never heals.
    OBAMANESIA also results in delusions and hallucinations which causes you to think an obscure movie causes such deaths, and you repeatedly need to apologize to the perpetrators of the crime who are terrorists, even though you don't believe terrorists still exist.
    I hope you don't catch it. It's deadly

    October 21, 2012 at 9:34 pm | Reply
    • David

      I am pretty sure about 47% of our citizens have caught it, sadly enough..

      October 22, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Reply
  35. eroteme

    May I suggest that if there is an attack on 9/11/13 our foreign affairs gurus not sit around scratching their heads wondering if it miight be a terrorist attack. I am not the swiftist person around by far but when the Benghazi attack occurred on 9/11 the first thought that came to my mind was that this must be a terrorist attack against us. Come 9/11/13 if we experience another attack there surely will be those who again believe the attack date is purely coincidental and caution us all not to jump to false conclusion while the matter is 'studied'.

    October 21, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Reply
  36. ugh

    All this BS for a failed foreign policy........This President needs to do something else.

    October 21, 2012 at 8:39 pm | Reply
  37. Growupalready

    Who are you people? A bunch of monday night quarterbacks. It is easy to sit on the couch and play commander n chief. President Obama's reality is so far from where you pee-ons are, President Obama is in the big game and he is the unsung. He is the elected franchise taking the hits and all you haters and cowards can do is give him grief and rally behind Mitt the twit, a known chicken hawk lying draft dodger . Grow up.

    October 21, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Reply
    • Bill

      Well said! Thank you!

      October 21, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Reply
    • b

      "obama is taking the hits". the only people taking the hits on his team are the Ambassador and the other 3 Americans, who are now DEAD. Meanwhile obama parties in Vegas. Crawl back under your rock and come out in 4 years.

      October 21, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Reply
      • Pete

        @b,thank your Darrell Issa,incompetent republican at large,he's the one that cut defense sending by 400 million and part of that cut was meant for security on these embassies.Ambassador Stevens was also aware of what goes on there,he's been in that area for over 20 years and he'd know if he was threatened because he'd be gone!!Quit trying to be a detective,you're lousey at it as well as your politics,do some research first it wouldn't hurt yah!!

        October 21, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
      • David

        Yep, it is Issa's fault. There is no way they could have afforded to send more security to Libya when they were buying Chevy Volt's and charging stations for their other posts in Europe. Dummy.

        October 22, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • Joe

      It's obvious that Obama was just sitting on the couch as well. If you want to blame people for being angry, start with the Commander and Chief, he started this mess to protect his re-election. You are a true fool for blaming people who are angry over this administrations mistakes. Was it only okay for you to blame Bush but other cannot blame Obama? Freedom of speech is a two way street. If you don't like it, then move to China and you will fit right in with that government.

      October 21, 2012 at 10:37 pm | Reply
      • Catalina

        For these "cuts" to have gone in effect Obama would have had to sign the bill.

        October 21, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • Anne

      My question to each person who claims to "know" what happened....IF the president, state department and pentagon gave you a minute, by minute account, releasing all the thousands of pages of emails, the recordings of the phone calls and it came out saying it was exactly as they said it happened just as they said, would you believe them then? My guess is NO. You are looking for a reason to hate, and it gets so old. Also my question for Mitt Romney tonight is how exactly would you have handled it differently? Then I'd be really quiet and let him dig the hole deeper. You all think you should be told exactly what happened as it's happening....have you ever considered that maybe that didn't know what was happening, OR that someone or others might be in danger and they can't tell you right now because someones safety is at risk. I am SO tired of the haters. You know what scares me most is that Mitt Romney is being given intelligence briefs and all kinds of information. Who knows what he'll do with that information

      October 22, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Reply
  38. Charlie Ammen

    So many posts, so few thoughts.

    October 21, 2012 at 7:57 pm | Reply
  39. DJESQ

    Something is rotten in the WH … the folks there offer too many red herrings – and they’re now a little ripe …

    October 21, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Reply
  40. DJESQ

    As an Independent, I gave BO a chance, now I must say,

    “I'm sorry, so sorry, that I was such a fool … I didn't know love could be so cruel … You tell me mistakes are part of being young … but that don't right the wrong that's been done … I'm sorry, I'm sorry, So sorry, So sorry … please accept my apology, but love is blind … and I was too blind to see”

    ABO in 2012 – a warm rock will do …

    October 21, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Reply
    • Studypeople

      And I thought all Drama Queens were all Modern Day Republicans. Just a clue, this is much ado about nothing. As a Traditional Republican... Pres. Reagan was blamed for leaving the Marines on the "Beach" in Lebanon. Pres. George H.W. Bush was blamed for missing the clues...and not handling Saddam "Well" up to the Iraq/Kuwait War. And we all know about Pres. George W. Bush and 9/11....... Just a clue....Terrorists, and your enemy's will always find your "Weak" spot. Good luck covering them all.

      October 21, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Reply
    • J.J

      I just feel very bad for what is going on in Amrica. When America was attacked in 2001 NOBODY blamed Bush at least for the first 3 months. Heads came together to seek for a solution. Why are the Republicans doing this to the President??????
      It is clearly for political reasons. G.Bush even started the Afganistan war in the name of looking for Osama Bin Laden which he did not succeed for 6 years. At least give the POTUS that credit.

      October 22, 2012 at 8:40 am | Reply
      • David

        First of all, 9/11/01 was not Bush's fault. His response to that was also much different than the response we are seeing from our president today on a much lesser attack. President Obama would have never been anywhere near getting Bin Laden if not for George Bush, they both get credit for that. When you blame a video that nobody has seen for an attack on your citizens, and worse apologize for it, you are going to be criticized. This really isn't that complex.

        October 22, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
  41. Rose

    CNN ia backing the Repugnicans! It is more evident day after day now! Fran Townsend - a BUSHIE from way back??
    C;'mon, start telling the truth! Present people who will give we women– & the 47%-ers fair shot! Back a winner,
    that's Obama, wqho has done so much in spite of all that the party of NO has done to stop this country from growing.
    Proof that money talks * bul-walks, right?? Spin, spin, spin, so that your guy, Romnesia will win! Bye-bye Big Bird, bye bye gopd health care,bye bye truth! What a country!

    October 21, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Reply
    • Cindy

      Not all women are sucked in by the rhetoric and BS we are brainwashed with by Obama and the Democrats. I am disappointed to say that I was lured and attracted by it last time and voted for Obama, but NOT this time. So don't generalize all women into your percentages. We are not all Blonde!

      October 21, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Reply
      • Pete

        @Cindy,just read up on what your republicans have done historicly that killed much more than 4 people at an embassy.Reagan had 70 killed in two attacks in"83 and remember the intellect Bush didn't use about 9/11..Don't let yourself be fooled or you will thought of as the dumb blond and you'll deserve it in also believing in the mormon morons policies and that's much to do about nothing lady!!Also look up Romneys Bain closing another factory in Freeport,Illinois .170 workers lost their jobs to China Friday,have any bright ideas blondy how he's gonna create any jobs here!!!

        October 21, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
      • David

        @Pete, You need to chill out. You are so incredibly partisan that you will stand up for anything that a democrat does and belittle anything a republican does. If you are incapable of looking at the Libya issue without using past failures to excuse it, you have no business spouting your opinion.

        October 22, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • Cindy

      Hope you don't catch OBAMANESIA. I heard about it on another blog.

      OBAMANESIA: it's lethal and happens when you can't remember important facts such as what precipitated an American Ambassador and others to be attacked and murdered in Libya. It causes you to repeatedly cover up the facts that are clearly evident with an artificial bandage, but the wound never heals.
      OBAMANESIA also results in delusions and hallucinations which causes some to think that an obscure movie causes such deaths, and you repeatedly need to apologize to the perpetrators of the crime who are indeed terrorists, even though you don't believe terrorists continue to exist.
      I hope you don't catch it

      October 21, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Reply
      • MittRomneyLost

        Typical right-wingers, copying a quote attributed by President Obama referencing Mitt Romney's loss of memory as "Romneysia".

        Ann Romney has already broken the ice in this election by saying that if Mitt Romney loses the 2012 election, Mitt will not run again for President.

        Obama/Biden 2012

        October 22, 2012 at 12:25 am |
  42. Dagny_Tag

    WASHINGTON (AP) – The CIA station chief in Libya reported to Washington within 24 hours of last month's deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate that there was evidence it was carried out by militants, not a spontaneous mob upset about an American-made video ridiculing Islam's Prophet Muhammad, U.S. officials have told The Associated Press.

    Care to explain that Libs, B.O., Clinton/Rice, CrowleyGate, NY Slimes, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSDNC, and last but certainly not least,....C.orrupt "N.ews" N.etwork??????????

    October 21, 2012 at 6:45 pm | Reply
    • Rose

      What'swith CNNnow? Going Repugnican?? Fran Townsend - a Bush culprit??C'mon, be fair - report the truth!
      You're going to the Right Rag Bullpucky! BE FAIR! REPORT THE TRUTH!!

      October 21, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Reply
    • Jen L

      Certainly, I'll address that question.

      Do you grasp the difference between "there was evidence of this" and "the evidence points to this?" Do you know the difference between the days of the week? Do you understand that as intelligence is gathered, it starts out contradictory and then becomes more accurate?

      Why is it some sort of vast liberal conspiracy that you refuse to admit that "some evidence of this," especially when there is evidence of multiple other things, doesn't mean definitively that "this" happened?

      I do realize that reality is a liberal conspiracy to many people, but is it really so difficult to grasp that the reason that we keep gathering intelligence is that WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE YET?

      October 21, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Reply
      • Bryan Beus

        "We don't know for sure yet."

        They could have just said that then. Instead, they went, of all places, to the UN and told a story about a non-existent video. Even if they were confused, it still shows considerable weakness from the administration.

        It also shows ridiculous incompetence if the White House–equipped with on-site video surveillance that recorded the entire attack–didn't know two weeks later that this was an organized strike. What are they doing with all of our tax dollars if they can't figure out a small attack within a two week time frame? What if it was a large one?

        No matter how you look at it, this entire ordeal is a failure. I suggest we all just admit it and move forward with solutions.

        October 21, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
      • David

        Better yet, do you know what the definition of 'is' is?

        October 22, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • HSC

      Thank you Dagny great post...perfectly said. Pesonally I'm sick to death of all the main stream media talking as if Obama walks on water and Romney is the devil. I stick with Fox news now:).

      October 21, 2012 at 9:44 pm | Reply
  43. Joe

    If Republicans haspd this amount of zeal after 911 to get the truth we wouldn't have has a war with Iraq and Bin Laden would've been caught in 2002 not 2012.

    October 21, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Reply
    • LiberalismRequiresTyranny

      That is not true at all. If you have ANY evidence to support your slanderous charges, please present it.

      I would point out that liberals vicious attacks on W during the wars were downright treasonous. Conversely, Republicans and conservatives have not behaved in a similar way, even though we believe Dear Leader represents a real and present danger to our kids' futures.

      October 21, 2012 at 6:23 pm | Reply
      • DCD

        As you said to Joe, please present your evidence that Obama is a threat to our kids. And on Iraq, were you hibernating for those years. Good God even the republicans admit GW was wrong for going into Iraq. Again your comment is just another misrepresentation of facts and the extent republicans will go to defame Obama.

        October 21, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
      • 2+2=4

        You are one sick individual, you think being irresponsible enough to let thousands die over nothing, and 9/11 happen, somehow compared to an embassy attack which is common even in peacetime? Maybe someday you guys will get educated!! Who knows?

        October 21, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
      • 2+2=4

        See this right here is exactly what is wrong with this country, we are gridlocked by morons that think just because we were right about the wars, the deficit, the economy, etc, that now they have to spite us back, you know the old saying, biting off your own nose to spite your face, exactly what is happening here, and clowns like this allow it to happen, now that an not signing a single jobs bill, much less one for the veterans they pretend to support so much, must be proof that these guys really have a clue what is going on around them, right, and I'm Mary Poppins.

        October 21, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
      • 2+2=4

        Not a Liberal by the way, I know how in you guys' warped minds everyone and everything is, but you are wrong, as you always are. Enjoy!

        October 21, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
      • Bill

        Well, Obama did not open a new war! It was W who started 2, even if both dems and repubs voted. I might say they, both dems and repubs were totally in fear of being called unamerican by the Busg-Chaney campaign. Nobody dared not to vote for the war. Of course had the Bush-Chaney maffia not pushed it and backed it with lies, we could have avoided the Iraq war. I should point out that it was Obama who stopped this illegal, high cost and deadly war. But Romney is no different from Bush, even if he tries to distance himself from Bush. So if he wins, we have a good chance of another war. That is what dangers the society and our kids, not Obama. It's quite difficult to see it otherwise, only if you are racist against Obama.

        October 21, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
    • hockeymom55

      Bill, your comment is so asinine. First, QUIT PLAYING THE RACE CARD. You can hate O's policies without being racist. Second, your precious Obama went into Libya to start a conflict WITHOUT congressional approval, and now look what we have – 4 dead heroic Americans and a quickly deteriorating and extremely dangerous Middle East with a resurgence of radical Islamic terrorist groups. What did you expect Bush to do after September 11th, lie down and play dead like your pitiful president likely would have? Waved the white flag? (Don't give me, "But he killed Osama" because ANYone would have as president.) And quit acting like your poor little Dems were SO scared of Bush and SO afraid of looking unamerican. The Dems are big boys and girls who wear big boy and big girl pants and who are capable of making their own decisions. (Well, maybe.) Here is my solution if you hate conservatives so much.... Let's divide the country in half based on political preference (i.e., liberal and conservative). That way you can surround yourself with those of like mind – those who believe in weak national defense, sky high taxes, apologizing for America's exceptionalism, the destruction of capitalism, a socialist/communist society (including redistribution of wealth), a perpetual stimulus program, skyrocketing national debt, an increase in welfare, the demise of the oil and coal industries, more people IN the cart than pulling it (e.g., more takers than makers), a disdain for the military and a dislike of Christians. Then we can see which side survives. I'd bet my money on those (conservatives) who believe in a superior military and national defense (which, by the way, is the president's FIRST and MOST IMPORTANT obligation to the citizens of the United States), U.S. exceptionalism and a love of country, strong family values, a superlative work ethic, personal responsibility, a balanced budget and no national debt, a respect for authority, and a love of God.

      October 21, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Reply
      • keepmelaughing

        Boy you can sure tell the republican trolls are out in force tonight. Why do republicans hate so much. For folks who claim to be so religious, you are all anything but. Try going and really reading your bible if you ever have. You are all a bunch of hate mongers. Please get some therapy. You are all blinded by your hatred.

        October 22, 2012 at 12:37 am |
  44. LiberalismRequiresTyranny

    The Libya debacle came about a week after the Dems in Charlotte had celebrated the whoopin' Obraggart was giving Al Qaeda.

    The Al Qaeda attack that killed our Ambassador and 3 other Americans lasted 6 hours. Regardless of the fact the CNN refuses to cover it, it will be remembered as the final sad act of this leaderless and honorless administration. The lies they told were so blatant they were insulting. I expect every liberal to happily sacrifice themselves to Dear Leader by defending his behavior, no matter how amateurish. They will go down with his ship.

    The GOP will own the House, the White House, and the Senate. They’lll reap the economic benefits of all this money that was going to be spent after the election anyway. They'll stack the court and repeal ObungleCare.


    October 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Reply
    • Bill

      Were you happy when the US invaded Iraq? That was a result of a series of lies by the GOP leadership. Those lies resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths. And that was purposeful. It is the GOP leadership that lies all the time, sometimes democrats too, but that does not lead to war. And Romney is no different, at least as big liar as Bush and company. If he wins, we will likely go to war again! Fortunately, more than half of the country thinks not like you!

      October 21, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Reply
      • HappyG

        You do understand that the vote to go into Iraq was bipartisan...right? And that your dem pols voted to fund it, even long after the republicans had no say in that funding...

        October 21, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
      • LiberalismRequiresTyranny

        Is it hypocritical to lie in order to charge someone else with lying?
        Want the hundreds of quotes from Liberals about how Iraq definitely had WMD's?
        What about the hundreds of Democratic votes in order to go to war? (It was bipartisan).
        What about the families of the thousands of dead Kurds who might beg do differ with you about whether Hussein had WMD's?

        October 21, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
      • Kay

        Our Govenrment ,Rep and Dems all read the same intel reports that Bush did, and all agreed to go to Iraq. It wasn't just a Bush decision.

        October 21, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
      • DCD

        All you that say it was a bipartisan vote may think your on to something, but in reality the vote was based on the lies GW Bush told them and put in those intelligence reports. So because someone lies to you and you vote on that does that make it your fault. Of course not, even republican were pea'd off because of the lies GW Bush and Chaney told them. So stick that in your pipe.

        October 21, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • DCD

      Another mitt wit making comments without checking facts. Good luck with the GOP living in all houses of congress. When that happens you will see this country sink into a depression that will take us 10-15 years to recover from. Obviously you republicans have learned nothing from GW Bush. If his policies were so good why doesn't Romney embrace him and why isn't Bush supporting Romney like Clinton does Obama.

      October 21, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Reply
      • Gulfwwind

        Only four years to hit the depression with Obama at the wheel.

        October 21, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • HappyG

      The lies are still insulting to normal Americans.

      October 21, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Reply
    • Charlie Ammen

      Congratulations! Two childish versions of Obama's name in one post! And you achieved your one and only agenda which was to see you words on a national website.

      October 21, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Reply
      • Charlie Ammen

        DCD – My apologies. My comment about childish versions of Obama's name were ment for the traitor, LiberalismRequireTyranny's post that ended with 'ObungleCare.'

        October 21, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
  45. Triple A

    The BHO goes on a comedy show to talk about the murdering of 4 Americans. What is he going to do next, have his boys and girls on SNL do a skit about it?

    October 21, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Reply
  46. Kay

    So now the WH is trying to say one of the great est intelligence agencies in the world (US) told them at first it was from a protest? Even though no one was protesting in that city? Don't think anyone is going to buy that.

    October 21, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Reply
    • DCD

      Are you serious? Of course they were protesting. Did you not see the video's from the night it happened. I think the truth is that the protesting gave the terrorist the opportunity to strike. So do yourself a favor and watch the actual videos and listen to what the people on the ground were saying.

      October 21, 2012 at 6:52 pm | Reply
      • hockeymom55

        DCD- NOT in LIBYA!!!!!! There were NO protests in Libya. Watch Bret Baier's special. It is extremely well done and informative. Spoiler does not make the Obama administration look so wonderful. Therefore, I am assuming you will turn your nose up at the idea of viewing the program. BTW, Obama has already taken responsibility for this very unfortunate but truly preventable tragedy. Whether he will admit it or not, the Benghazi situation was a HUGE foreign policy failure, and terrorism is still alive and thriving.

        October 21, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
  47. Freelance

    Is anyone tired of Benghazi yet? Can we shift our focus to something real like JOBS?

    October 21, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Reply
    • LiberalismRequiresTyranny

      Not even close. This cannot stand. The President of the US intentionally lying to the public is worthy of discussion.

      Even more importantly to me, the very subject is a litmus test for sincerity.
      I'd always truly believed that liberals, by nature, are intentionally insincere people. Fakes. But, there actually seem to be some few exceptions. Folks who rightly say 'I wouldn't be OK with this if it was a Republican President, so I shouldn't be OK with it now.'

      If you don't demand immediate answers and/or resignations over this issue from Dear Leader's administration, you brazenly identify yourself as the worst type of human. One who intentionally refuses to be honest with themselves and others.

      October 21, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Reply
      • DCD

        Funny, how Romney lies all the time, yet nobody other than democrats call him out on them. You can't let one person get away with it and not the other. First of all I don't think Obama lied! The republicans of course want to pin a label on him that he lied, but Romney can flip flop all over things he has said in the past, present and future, most are out right lies with video to back it up. Maybe Obama had reason not to give out all the info, like national security, intelligence, etc. This is the main reason I will not back any current republicans as too many have been caught in lies along with voter suppression and intimidation.

        October 21, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
      • LiberalismRequiresTyranny

        Notice how DCD is unable to cite a single lie from Romney. Not one single lie. But, that doesn't stop DCD from slinging mud. All he has as evidence is his own prejudiced imagination.

        Yet, we all know for sure that Oblaimer lied in a blatant manner.
        He trotted out liar after liar to adamantly claim this was the result of a YouTube snippet.
        That is a totally invented lie. Not one single intelligence report connected this to the fake YouTube movie. They clearly reported, IN REAL TIME, that this was a well planned attack by a gang of Islamic terrorists.

        Why did Oblaimer fabricate this offensively blatant lie? Why not just tell the truth?
        Why won't you join me in asking that question?

        October 21, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
      • Kay

        Lies all in the name of getting re-elected. The 2nd lie to come out will be the mis-information the WH has been giving us on the status of the terrorist in the Middle East. We have been told they are being defeated and thinning out, only to find out they are getting stronger and the attacks like in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya are becoming more frequent and better organized. Obama thought the job was done when we got OBL. He doesn't listen. He only wants to hear things that support his personal worth.

        October 21, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
    • Bill

      Agreed! Republicans have nothing else to stick to and inflate everything they can. The Bush administration made much bigger problems and purposefully lied to be able to lead the country to war with Iraq. There is always some intelligence issue that can be criticized. But where is the Romney plan? How would he solve the country's problem on day 1? Where are the details?

      October 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Reply
      • Kay

        I don't think a candidate has access to the intel he would need to give us a detailed plan on what exactly to do in the Middle East. Obama ran on the plan he would negotiate and talk everyone to death. Gee, that plan didn't work.

        October 21, 2012 at 6:24 pm |
    • DJESQ

      Would you leave a smelly fish in your refrigerator as you search around for your next beer ? No, deal with it.

      BO could make this so simple ... do a fireside chat ... be honest – just tell it like it is ... and Americans will respond favorably ...

      October 21, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Reply
  48. henrytk


    October 21, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Reply
    • LiberalismRequiresTyranny

      I think Romney wins by 8 points.

      October 21, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Reply
    • DCD

      Put the weed away. If Romney wins it will be by a very small margin, probably less than 100,000 votes. Check you info before quoting a number like 8 million votes. Not only that, if Romney wins get ready to live in a dictatorship as we will all be suppressed then, not just the democrats so don't think a Romney win will be good for you or the country.

      October 21, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Reply
      • LiberalismRequiresTyranny

        This election will not be close. That has been obvious for some time.

        Mark my words and be here with your hat in hand on November 7th to congratulate conservatives on winning the White House by 54-46.

        October 21, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
    • Bill

      Fortunately, Obama will win with a landslide!

      October 21, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Reply
  49. John

    Why isn't anyone discussing what happened to the budget for Foreign Embassy Security?

    Obama budget requests reduced by 128 million in 2011, and a whopping 313 million in 2012, by GUESS WHO, THE NEW AND IMPROVED GOP HOUSE............let's give credit where credit is due!

    October 21, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Reply
    • LiberalismRequiresTyranny

      Because it is pure obfuscation. There was no shortage of money. The Oblaimer administration refused Ambassador Stevens' repeated requests for backup for one reason. Their rigid ideology. They believed we must lead from behind, which in this case, meant we had to avoid ruffling the locals' feathers at all costs. A beefed up security presence, as was repeatedly requested and denied, might have irritated some local Al Qaeda faction. Dear Leader can't have that – certainly not during an election.

      October 21, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Reply
      • DCD

        See, this is the whole problem with the republican party. This guy makes an excellent point and not to mention fact and all you can do is deny it. Like Romney said! He will not let facts dictate this election. I can't even stand reading these comments anymore because most people have nothing intelligent to say and just out right deny facts. No wonder this country is so messed up! If Romney is elected I know exactly who to blame and when things don't work out for you Romneyites don't go on any post and complain. You will get what you deserve for being so narrow minded and unwilling to accept facts.

        October 21, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
      • LiberalismRequiresTyranny

        You may need some help with your reasoning and logic.
        No one denied the charge that less money was allocated than was requested. Instead, we explained why that is not actually even relevant. We actually responded and rebutted your comment. It's called communicating. Unlike what you just did, which is to snivel and run away because your attempt to muddy up the waters was unsuccessful.

        October 21, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • Kay

      They didn't need more money, they needed to quit wasting the money they did get. And obviously they didn't know how to do that.

      October 21, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Reply
    • HappyG

      Because John, if you had bothered to watch the House hearings on the attack you would know that funding wasn't the was about the appearance of normalcy in a war zone...In short, our America brothers were sacrificed for votes.

      October 21, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Reply
    • Ellie

      John, check the vote for the embassies, 149 democrat 147 republican.....

      October 21, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Reply
  50. clb2012now

    Obama did not call Benghazi terrorism. The rose garden speech was about the video with a splice tacked on about "acts of terror" in general. The "video did it" meme was continued by the administration for over 8 days to include Obama's speech to the UN, Susan Rice's 5 plus appearances arranged by the whitehouse on the Sunday shows, and Crowley's outright collusion with the Obama campaign.

    How much of the Obama's proliferation of the "video" brought the attention of the IMAMs and was the cause of the subsequent riots among the Muslims that weekend? Where was Obama's outrage on September 12th of an attack, no matter the reason, on Americans and American soil? Why did Obama not defend American's right to freedom of speech? If the investigation was on going, how could the administration even say video was the cause? As Obama said, we will get those who did it and the FBI can't get to the scene for three weeks; the actions don't meet the words!

    October 21, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Reply
    • Bill

      Perhaps there is some truth to this. Every government does something that is not best handled. But this is nothing compared to what the GOP usually does starting with Bush who whose cabinet apparently knew something about 9/11 which resulted in the death of nearly 3000 people on Americans on American soil, and then the fact that Bush was hiding and then the fabricated facts about Iraq nuclear capacity leading to an unnecessary war in which not 4 but tens of thousands of Americans died. Despite all these lies and responsibility for the death of tens of thousands of people, Bush was reelected. If anything, Obama is trying to lead the country out of the mess the GOP created.

      October 21, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Reply
      • LiberalismRequiresTyranny

        Bill, it seems nothing will re-connect you with reality. You prefer your prejudiced (and fact-less) imagination.

        You didn't speak a single word of truth, although you words do testify that you are an evil person.
        Evil is evil. Wrong is wrong. Regardless of any allegation you make against your political enemies, it is always evil to intentionally overlook evil. It is also always evil to intentionally obfuscate. You've just done both here.

        If you wanted to talk about another subject, you're free to do it. But, 911 and Iraq are totally and completely unconnected to the deadly Libya debacle and subsequent coverup, both of which were easily avoidable.

        October 21, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
      • Bill

        Apparently you have no clue what evil is! Bush is evil, Cheney is evil. I don't know about you, but your words suggest that you don't consider tings carefully and probably make a lot of mistake in life. Then you cover up and if someone questions you, call that person evil without knowing anything about him. This is closer to evil than the guy who questions you.

        Things do happen in the world. And this event was not a nice one. I don't know all the details, and it is possible that the Obama cabinet made mistakes. If they did, it lead to the loss of 4 lives. But the Bush-Cheney "mistakes" were intentional, backed by big money, and resulted in much much more loss of life. This does not mean that Obama is not responsible. But the scales are hugely different. Obama did not start a war to make money for oil companies.

        And yes one has the right to compare things. Bush/Cheney should have been tried at an international court for what they did, war crimes. While Obama's mistake was likely not intentional, it did not lead to war crimes. Where were you by the way during those times when Bush started the wars? Did you also loudly claim they had to be investigated and put in jail? For some reason, I am afraid you were in big silence!

        October 21, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
    • HappyG

      "Parsing" has risen to new levels under this administration...was anyone else ready to puke as Obama insisted that anyone who would try to use the attack for political purpose is a cretin?

      October 21, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Reply
  51. dittoamerican!

    REPUBLICANS BEWARE u get what u ask for in life!!!! More war and people starving and no jobs and american people are ashamed of ur mud sligging and ur jumping to conclusions abt stuff!!! I for one am ashamed at the stupidity ur showing the world by ur spouting off the mouth like u do! at least democrates show some restraint in there comments to not offend anyone but u guys are just plain rude and unchristian like and i am so glad most people are seeing that u havent a clue as to what ur talking abt because u flip flop so consistantly!!! Our president has every right to keep things from us when pertaining to there intelligence when National security is at stake here! i for one dont wanna know all the details of this attack its bad enough u wanna drag them thru this policical election when dont see u over there fighting for us! Mayb u did at one point but u also knew the risk when u did and still u did it! these people lost their lives to make it a better place for all of us and the thanx u show them is putting these families thru all this is very shameful!!! Try showing a little respect for our men and women trying to work for world peace please!!! these people were killed NOT by OBAMA but by terrorist and deserve our respect for their hard work and not u calling our president a liar cuz he didnt call it a act of terror when he did???!!! Bush had lots of reason why we shouldnt have elected him but we did for 8 yrs that man screwed this country up and u expect Obama to straighten that all out in 4 with a whole slew of republicans that are just sore losers and dont wanna play nice and give a little bit!! if they can stop something that Obama wants to help move this country forward into the 21st century the REPUBLICANS will do it! U really need to look inside urself cuz we americans see as spoiled little children who have not got over that this president isnt for the rich people who put us into a RECESSION!!!! BANKS, WALL STREET, how many po folk u see in those places???? how many rich bankers and traders do u see at walmart or mcdonalds to feed and clothe their families because i think u have a warped sense of what this country is suppose to b abt sure Obama is rich now but at least he shows he cares for the little people who are stuggling to make it in this rich peoples world and ur fellow ROMNEY doesnt want to deal with us hes made his money and screw the rest of the world u can see it in his eyes very uncaring snob!!!! keep the little people stuggling we can control them better that way

    October 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Reply
    • Samuel

      WOW ! Very good write up. I enjoyed reading it...good points.

      October 21, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Reply
    • zlulz

      Oh how quick liberals are to forget that the financial meltdown wouldn't of occurred had Clinton not repealed Glass-Steagall.

      October 21, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Reply
      • HappyG

        The libs deny matter how many times Clinton's speech pronouncing it as wonderful is linked...I blame their teachers...

        October 21, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • Howard

      Obama is the one who is trying to CHANGE this country into something unrecognizeable. You Obama supporters are the ones who better be careful what you want ... because Obama's radical, failed policies are bankrupting America, diminishing our security, relinquishing our sovereignty ... and, systematically turning America into a third world country. The first, and biggest step Americans can take to save America, is to get rid of Obama, his unelected czaars and appointees, his out of control spending, and his failed policies. Elect Romney & Ryan on April 6th !!!

      October 21, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Reply
      • KarenFaye

        When did they move election day from November 6th to April 6th???? Another Obama dictate or executive order??????

        October 21, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
      • Samuel

        You are just making stuff up ! And April the 6th. Just state what is your actually problem with this POUS. Beause every point you just made I can make for R/R or Bush or the GOP !

        However, make sure you vote on Nov the 6th...

        October 21, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
      • Bill

        Those who speak like this don't know the facts. Just like Romney who offers not a single detail about hos plans, you can only say bad things about the president without facts. This is plain racism. It was Bush who allowed 3 thousand people to be killed on American land on 9/11 and it was Bush who lied to lead the country against Iraq which resulted in tens if not hundreds of thousands of deaths. It was Bush and the GOP under whose leadership the country's reputation and economics went downhill while the rich got richer. Obama pulled out of Iraq. He saved the economy, just look at how badly the Europeans are doing. The country is moving back up even if slowly. Only those do not acknowledge it who do not want to.

        October 21, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
      • Pete

        @Howard,get your head out of your ass,failed policies is what you'll see if you elect that Mormon moron idiot!!

        October 21, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
    • KarenFaye

      Get a life you loser. Educate yourself on the facts – not hype you see and hear on the biased media circus sites. Obama is ruining this country and economy for his own agenda – we cannot survive as a stable country under his "monarchy" any longer.

      October 21, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Reply
      • George

        Calling President Obama a Monarch, Dictator, or Socialist, is another fine result of free speech! Right Wing Media has tried to paint the President as all of these since he began his first run at the White House. None are true, and all a sign of ignorance.
        Wanting Romney as President and believing in his Philosphy of how to run the country, is your absolute right. My wanting to stay the course with Obama, and believing in his philosphy is my absolute right. Neither will tear down the country!! We have lived through each at many different periods throughout our history, and as always, we come out intact every time. Sometimes better, and sometimes worse, but always as America.

        October 21, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
      • Bill

        I suppose we arguably survive better under Obama than we did under George Bush: less war, less fear, better education, not collapsed economy and no new war lingering above us. To me, Romney is the same as Bush if not worse. Hence, I will vote for Obama.

        October 21, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  52. DJESQ

    In all the years I spent in and out of the military ... the Administration's handling of death of our ambassador in the last month is the first time I've ever seen a 'cluster.f....' in action ...

    October 21, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Reply
    • Scottt01

      It is terrible the politics took more precident for the Obama Administration then the deaths did in this attack and, it is still politics going on.

      October 21, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Reply
    • KarenFaye

      DJESQ: Thank you for your service to our country, and for your valuable comments. "Cluster"..... was what first came to my mind as well - but sadly, lives were lost, and our Commander jetted off to Vegas.

      October 21, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Reply
  53. cadillacrich


    October 21, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Reply
  54. Martin

    Classic GOTCHA moment in American politics. The party out of power blames the party in power, although it could have happened on anyone's watch. Intelligence is imperfect.

    October 21, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Reply
    • Samuel

      You are the only one thinking in a rational state of mind ! And I know intell is imperfect. You would think we as Americans would have learned this. Lets do the investigation and learn as Americans. I am ashamed of both party.

      Just shamful and anyone who is using this should be ashamed. I did 30 years in the military and lost many friends because of BAD INTELL ! Should not knee jerk. I am just happpy this POUS is slow and thorough before he rushing into bombng countries....not to excuse him or anyone when the investigation is completed.

      October 21, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Reply
    • KarenFaye

      Martin: Most intelligent Americans fully understand that mistakes happen, or that there can be miscommunications made - but what happened in Benghazi was neither – it was pure and simple a screwup from the top down. Unexcusable, unforgivable, and the families of the victims are owed an HONEST explanation – if there is one.

      October 21, 2012 at 3:28 pm | Reply
    • LiberalismRequiresTyranny


      The important question isn't about how the Intelligence community handled the info it had. It isn't even how Obungle handled the information he had.

      The important question is how YOU handle the information you have. Will you demand answers for our kids' sake, or will you seek to run cover for this deadly debacle and the offensively amateurish (and continuing) coverup?

      October 21, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Reply
    • jerrylax

      mistakes happen...however, obama didn't make a mistake, he blamed a video and knew very well this was a terrorist attack...and we all know it now. If he had a lick of sense he would not have backed the overthrow of the libyan leader in the first place...the country is full of extremists is egypt another foreign policy failure.

      October 21, 2012 at 9:44 pm | Reply
  55. Bruce Miller

    This Obama Admin. does not know what they are talking about, they are so confused that it is scary. This story has been changed more times than a two month old baby and it is just as stinky.

    October 21, 2012 at 11:47 am | Reply
    • Martin

      I think that's the smell of Romney changing his position on everything as he moves to the middle.

      October 21, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Reply
      • lorina watkins

        Martin,you are soooo right.And what happend to America beening the land of the free and the home of the brave.Seems to me the rep party are tring to take that all away from us.You cant be gay,you cant have an abortion, you cant be poor,ect...Did the bible not say you should not judge.We are judge by rep so called christins who treat little people as if we are pets and not people.they goot us in this mess and expect pred obama to make it all better in a few short years. give him a chance to get us out of the mess rep left us with. He treats us like people not animals.

        October 21, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
  56. Martin

    Newsflash: intelligence is imperfect and sometimes takes time to sort through. Amazing that the Bush admin had months to sort through the Iraq WMD intelligence and got it wrong, with extremely high consequence, and now are outraged that we didn't know immediately about Benghazi.

    October 21, 2012 at 11:38 am | Reply
    • zlulz

      News Flash – They watched/listened to the attack for 6 hours. They had constantly reported back in cables that they needed more protection and that extremist were moving in the preceding months. Sure Obama might of gotten the "wrong" intelligence if you want to believe that, but if/when he got the correct intelligence he stuck with the lie and tried to blame our first amendment rights. Based on the evidence presented so far, this attack happened because of Democrats Incompetence.

      October 21, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Reply
    • KarenFaye

      Martin – I know b u ll shi! when I smell it, and the Prez and his band of merrymen and women are spewing it faster than a cow with the scours. You are a mindless Obamatard – and sadly, a testimony of our failing public schools.

      October 21, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Reply
  57. Joe

    they are all incompetent and lie to cover that up.

    October 21, 2012 at 11:21 am | Reply
  58. Free Jammu & Kashmir From India's Occupation

    NEW YORK: Renowned Indian activist and novelist Arundhati Roy has decried the silence of the international community over the continued “brutal Indian occupation of Kashmir” and said Kashmiris should be given the right to self-determination……
    She said so little was known about the atrocities being committed by more than half a million Indian troops, the continuing repression and indignities let loose on Kashmiri men, women and children.
    More than 700,000 troops were concentrated in the tiny valley, with checkpoints at every nook and corner of Kashmiri towns and cities. The huge Indian presence, she added, was in sharp contrast with 160,000 US troops in Iraq.
    Ms Roy alleged that Indian army or security personnel were killing young children, pregnant women, and elderly.

    October 21, 2012 at 10:44 am | Reply
  59. Amit-Atlanta-USA.

    It is well known thatIndian Hindus were buddies of Gadhafi doing business with him in days of US sanctions.

    "It is also no secret that Hitler and his Nazi cronies sought inspiration from Indian extremist groups including the branding of his Nazi Party by adopting the Swastika, a traditionally Hindu symbol and representation of Hindu god Ganesha, as its marketing tool. The thesis being that like the Norwegian massacre the Jewish holocaust orchestrated by Hitler was inspired by the inherently violent cult of Indian Hindus and the manifesto of its then extremist/terrorist groups still in existence today. These groups are now the successors to and carrying out the vision of Al Qaeda all over the world albeit in a clandestine manner."

    October 21, 2012 at 10:28 am | Reply
  60. Patrick



    LEADERS: L.K. Advani/ Ashok Singhal/ Bala Saheb Devaras/ Bal Thackeray/ A.B. Vajpayee/ Savarkar/ Baikunnth Lal Sharma “Prem”/ Balraj Madhok/ The Shankaracharya of Puri, Niranjan Dev Theerth/ Rama Gopalan/ Variyar – Vishwan Hindu Parishad/ Dharmalinga Nadar/ Cho Ramaswamy

    October 21, 2012 at 10:25 am | Reply
  61. George Patton

    New, More Dangerous Hindu Extremist Groups Emerge in India

    Christians concerned as rightwing factions splinter to form militant outfits.
    PUNE, India, October 29 (CDN) — After more than a decade of severe persecution, India’s Christian minority is growing increasingly concerned over the mushrooming of newer and deadlier Hindu extremist groups.

    Gone are the days when Christians had to watch out only for the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council) and its youth wing, Bajrang Dal, which are closely linked with the most influential Hindu extremist umbrella organization, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). With voter support faltering for the RSS’s political wing, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), moderate and extremist sections within the Hindu nationalist movement are blaming each other, and militant splinter groups have emerged.

    Claiming to be breakaway factions of the RSS, new groups with even more extreme ideology are surfacing. The Abhinav Bharat (Pride of India), the Rashtriya Jagran Manch (National Revival Forum), the Sri Ram Sene (Army of god Rama), the Hindu Dharam Sena (Army for Hindu Religion) and the Sanatan Sanstha (Eternal Organization) have launched numerous violent attacks on Christian and Muslim minorities.

    October 21, 2012 at 10:24 am | Reply
  62. bilk7

    It's been reported that Darrell Issa and his committee has revealed secret information regarding Libya and operatives there that should no thave been released. If this is true, Issa has put people's live sin jeapody just for some political gain two weeks before an election. We've been through this

    October 21, 2012 at 9:14 am | Reply
    • KTHill

      This is why we need to replace all these individuals. Watching us get wrapped up in party politics is what they live for, in the meantime they abuse their power, and endanger the lives of individual's they're supposed to protect simply for political gain, control and power. How much do you want to bet that if Issa begins to feel the heat for his actions, he'll back off this investigation in the name of self-interest? Shame.

      October 21, 2012 at 10:30 am | Reply
  63. criticalthinkerr

    I thought elephants were never supposed to forget!

    12 Terrorist attacks on US Embassies During REPUBLICAN Bush-Cheney Presidency

    1. Jan. 22, 2002 Calcutta, India Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami gunmen attack Consulate

    2. June 14, 2002 Karachi, Pakistan al-Qaeda truck bomb detonates outside Consulate

    3. Oct. 12, 2002 Denpasar, Indonesia Consular Office bombed by Jemaah Islamiyah as part of the Bali bombings

    4. Feb. 28, 2003 Islamabad, Pakistan Unknown gunmen attack Embassy

    5. June 30, 2004 Tashkent, Uzbekistan Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan suicide bomber attacks Embassy

    6. Dec. 06, 2004 Jeddah, Saudia Arabia al-Qaeda gunmen raid diplomatic compound

    7. March 02, 2006 Karachi, Pakistan Car bomb explodes outside Embassy unknown

    8. Sept. 12, 2006 Demasacuc, Syria Gunmen raid US Embassy

    9. Jan. 12, 2007 Athens, Greece RPG Fired at Embassy by Revolutionary Struggle

    10. March 18, 2007 Sana’a, Yemen Mortar attack against US Embassy

    11. July 09, 2008 Istanbul, Turkey Armed attack against Consulate

    12, Sept. 17, 2008 Sana’a, Yemen Two car bombs outside US embassy in Yemeni capital

    October 21, 2012 at 8:37 am | Reply
    • nospam2

      What's your point? Of course there were terrorist attacks during Bush's term in office. As long as there are extreme religious people, there will always be terror attacks.

      They issue you don't seem to understand, it their lack of understanding and sending a clear message. Just like the President making snap decisions on who is guilty based on race. (Ex. Professor Gates and Trayvon Martin)

      October 21, 2012 at 9:16 am | Reply
    • Chucky

      Spare us your rubbish. India is a bully and a trouble maker in that region. It has kept the neighbors behind due constant bickerings. India has always lived in the shadow of Pakistan and has been forever defined by Pakistan. Unfortunately, India had a chance at leadership and blew it. Pakistan has now taken over the reins and is running with it. Much to the chagrin of Indians. So be it. Destiny has dealt its hands and India is about to fold.

      October 21, 2012 at 10:41 am | Reply
    • zainab-lucknow-india

      "Amnesty International has concluded that there is strong evidence that members of India’s Provincial Armed Constabulary were responsible for the Muslim massacre (hundreds of thousands) and the deliberate killing of unarmed civilians during the riots and following days."
      The report added that witnesses had charged PAC officers (all Brahmins and High caste Hindus) of herding Muslims into trucks and later shooting them dead (raping the Muslim ladies, in most cases). Their bodies were then tossed into canals and rivers.

      October 21, 2012 at 10:42 am | Reply
    • Triple A

      Attacks happen whether A Democrat or Republican in in office so what is your point. Out of all those attacks, none turned into a President that spent the next 6 weeks lying to America about it. It has turned into an embarrassment that the BHO just keeps digging a deeper hole.

      October 21, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Reply
  64. Chicago

    I rewatched Meet the Press Sept 16 edition (i think) anyway the broadcast is still available for rerun and rewatching on the website. Go watch it. They say there are two events happening. They use the word "AND". We had the embassy attack and a wild public uproar about the film all over the Muslim nations. The major point of Susan Rice was the reaction to a film. MTP has a graphic of all the countries that had spontaneous demonstrations that began with Egypt and spread. What the GOP wants to do is deger attentin away from the member of the GOP part faithful who put that film out and caused the spontaneous demonstrations. They are the ones using the "conspiracy" on the Libyan Embassy as a screen to hide the fact that some right wing extremist in the USA tried to upset the Muslim world.

    October 21, 2012 at 8:33 am | Reply
    • Alfuso

      FYI and FWIW – the Embassy is in Tripoli, the Capitol of Libya. The Consulate is in Benghazi, so people do not have to travel all the way to the Capitol.

      Consulates are accessible and not as heavily guarded. It's the nature of making it less formal.

      The Embassy requested extra agents and protection and received it. But Cnsulate was denied extending the current guards' tour there, because State Dept concerns were centered on the Embassy in Tripoli.

      "The requests were denied, but they were largely focused on extending the tours of security guards at the American Embassy in Tripoli — not at the diplomatic compound in Benghazi, 400 miles away. And State Department officials testified this week during a hearing by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that extending the tour of additional guards — a 16-member military security team — through mid-September would not have changed the bloody outcome because they were based in Tripoli, not Benghazi." NYT

      October 22, 2012 at 5:39 am | Reply
  65. Mike Drake

    What can you expect from a station that employes idiots like candy the cow Crowley

    October 21, 2012 at 8:32 am | Reply
  66. Mike Drake

    The intellegence did not shift the Gimmecrats version of it did. What about the drone fling over the Embassy during attack?

    October 21, 2012 at 8:24 am | Reply
  67. llatpoh

    The Telegraph in the UK, immediately after the Benghazi massacre, reported that the US Govt had advanced noticed that there was going to be an attack, and were clear that the attack had nothing to do with the video... strange that the UK media knew what was actually going on but it took the O administration 14 days to figure it out? Also strange that the US MSM once again gave O a free pass for those two weeks...

    Note to O, we are not stupid... we know you, and your gang, lied for 14 days...

    October 21, 2012 at 8:17 am | Reply
    • Independent43

      If all of you RIGHT and LEFT WING NUT JOBS would stop yelling at each other long enough, adults would be able to have a rational discussion.

      For the Right Wingers: Let's look at the concluding paragraph of President Obama's statement in the rose garden on Sept 12, 2012. Please refer to your grammar and writing primer long enough to notice that the statement "Acts of Terror" in the paragraph below appears in the topic sentence of this paragraph. Also, please note that a concluding sentence refers to the topic sentence. Thus "terrible act" at the end of the paragraph refers to "Acts of Terror" in the topic sentence. The description of the attack as "spontaneous" came directly from CIA talking points that were not edited by the WhiteHouse.

      "No ACTS OF TERROR will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that JUSTICE IS DONE FOR THIS TERRIBLE ACT. AND MAKE NO MISTAKE JUSTICE WILL BE DONE."

      So given this would one of care to explain, other than semantically, what the different is between "Act of Terror" and "Terrorist Act (or Attack)."

      Mitt Romney was wrong on this and his blind focus on it in the debate might just come back to haunt him.

      Furthermore, the administration never said it wasn't they stated it was inspired by and then that it took advantage of the protest not caused by or that it was the result of these protests. It is also becoming apparent Al Qaeda did use the YouTube film to incite violence on 9/11 but the phone calls from the Islamic Extremist to leaders of Al Qaeda in Maghrab indicate that they were inspired by what had happened in Cairo and decided to attack the consulate. As information has come to light it has illuminated that no protest occurred but we did not know that until the FBI recovered the security tapes weeks later.

      House Republicans in their effort to "gotcha" the president have only appeared to expose a secret CIA outpost for operations in Benghazi and not an administration cover-up. Unfortunately, this is not so secret anymore.

      Right Wing News Media: Fox Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, the Washington and New York Post etc. You are BLATANTLY misrepresenting the facts and statements of the administration while accusing "Left Wing The Media" of having a bias. I have news for you SO DO YOU.

      For all you Left Wingers:
      President Obama should have done a better job of clearing this up earlier and at least has a messaging issue around this and getting all of your people on the same page. There is also an issue with security and specifically the use of private security. Since the Black Water incident other countries do not want our roving bands of cowboys in their neighborhoods. However, we need to protect our diplomats better.

      Left Wing News Media: MSNBC, CBS, Huffington Post, NY Times, etc.
      You need to ask more direct questions and expect answers. Jon Stewart is the only interviewer to really put him on the spot and ask difficult questions. You should be embarrassed that a comedian is doing your job.

      I want you to notice that I have not used any disrespectful names or tones in this writeup. However, this discussion has had an effect on how I will vote. I believe that structurally the United States is on much more firm footing than it was 4 years ago and that what is really needed in Washington is some good old fashioned compromise.

      I do not agree with everything President Obama has done on foreign policy. Specifically, I believe we need to put clearer guidelines around our use of drones and special forces.

      However, we cannot have another cowboy gunslinger shooting off his mouth around the world and trying to pick fights. Mitt Romney appears to be willing to say anything and then change his mind to fit his political objectives without any regard for how that might escalate situations.

      I am an independent voter. I have voted independents, democrats and republicans in past and in this election. I will be voting for President Obama in 2012 because we need a steady consistent hand to guide us through the next four years.

      October 21, 2012 at 8:31 am | Reply
      • Moderate012

        Well said!

        October 21, 2012 at 9:34 am |
      • KTHill

        Thank you for this, it's a very clear and accurate assessment of what's happening to our country as well as the media feeding into this frenzy. I support your view of the situation, and I think that if people take their party over country colored glasses off they'd be able to see the situation a little clearer. I don't consider myself an Independent, however I'm not led by the condition known as party blindness.

        You're correct, he was referring to Libya as an act of terror, you're also correct that the confusion should have been cleared up the moment they realized the CIA assessment wasn't as accurate as they first assumed. I believe that the Obama administration was under pressure to give a reason because of the election season. BOTH sides jumped the gun on this thing, and BOTH sides did it for politics; one for political gain, the other for political pressure. It's as you stated, we need to make a decision based on the facts that we the people gather, not the noise the media presents us with. Thank you again; you sound like a clear headed and rational person, we need more people like you to speak up.

        October 21, 2012 at 9:41 am |
      • Duane st.pete Florida

        Obama and his team falt out can flower it up all you like but a terrorist attack does fit the careful narrative the dems want all to the mislead for week it like you seem them.

        October 21, 2012 at 11:17 am |
      • Independent43

        If you would like to comment please point out the lie which would be a knowing disclosure of misinformation. As I pointed out at the beginning of my post: THIS IS THE ADULT CONVERSATION.

        October 21, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
      • JDoubleP

        I have been watching your election for weeks and reading the posts on the left and right wing media's websites. This has to be one of the first intelligent and well placed perspectives that I have read.

        October 22, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
      • Timothy Crenshaw

        You might be independent but you are still spouting Democrat talking points that are flat out lies. You are trying to call them the truth but it does not work. Read this very carefully. In the Rose Garden the President of the United States of America alludes to terrorism and then calls what happened a terrible act. He does NOT SAY TERRORIST at all. You can use semantics all day to cover this up but then reality sets in. Four days later Obama's UN Ambassador goes on FIVE television shows and systemically declines to label the terrorist attack as a terrorist attack and refuses to say terrorists did this 'terrible act'. In fact it is two weeks before ANYONE in the Obama administration uses terrorist or terrorism. After it is used FINALLY the President of the USA walks right into the UN and lies through his freaking teeth mentioning the video SIX TIMES but never utters the words terrorists or terrorism. THIS WAS A LIE FROM THE START. Get it?

        October 24, 2012 at 5:13 am |
  68. William

    Yet the death toll in Dem controlled cities like Chicago, Cleveland, Philly and Baltimore are more than the monthly count from Afghanistan. Yet no mention of that.

    October 21, 2012 at 8:09 am | Reply
  69. clarinet

    BO & CO is using the Bengazi story to create a confused electorate that has forgotten to discuss the domestic economy. Romney just needs to say when he is president he will tell the truth about such things, and move onto jobs, energy...

    October 21, 2012 at 8:07 am | Reply
  70. arosel

    The intelligence community has long been know to support Republican administrations. The reason: Republicans let the intels get away with breaking the laws.

    They favored Bush because of Bush's dad heading the CIA.

    Watchout for election time.. .if anyone can falsify an election result it's the CIA.

    October 21, 2012 at 8:02 am | Reply
    • William

      Oh please. We we all not heard Obamas bragging about his masterful intelligence cooperation? He has been waving the flag and running around bragging about Bin Ladin for a year. But now that the mess in Libya has happened he has thrown the intelligence community and Mrs.Clinton under the bus for the sake of his election image.
      Bush has nothing to do with this.

      October 21, 2012 at 8:06 am | Reply
    • Taskmaster

      Get your brain out of the past and start living in the present . Every time OBO screws up you libbers jump back in time. Obummbler and Rotten Hillary screwed up and libbers wont admit it.

      October 21, 2012 at 9:14 am | Reply
      • Pete

        @Taskmaster,just trying to show you where you miserable screwups have been since Hoover that's all,losers voting for losers is where you've been at and now you've picked another one,a Mormon chief of staff to out source your ass to China,have fun over there reading all your fortune cookies idiots!!

        October 21, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
      • 2+2=4

        Yeah your a big baby. Romney is all about "feelings" and no substance, can see why you'd like that...

        October 22, 2012 at 9:05 am |
  71. ccmccone

    I find the way the GOP is jumping all over this attack once again without the proper information to be down right shameful. Making that terribly shameless statement on the 11th, then trying to misinform the public by outright lying to our faces. Thank god Pres. Obama and Candy Crowley called Romney on it. You would think this would make them stop, but no, they are ratcheting it up. DISGRACEFUL. It was amazing how many of you reporters just followed along with the GOP lies without even doing your research. Shame on you. CHECK YOUR SOURCES.

    October 21, 2012 at 6:05 am | Reply
    • William

      Oh sure. Why criticize Obamas foreign policy when Americans can die instead. We had drones over it and the battle lasted 7 hours with most of the deaths occurring toward the end. We had AC-130 gunships an hours flight from Italy. Even the most dim person knew the day after that it was a terrorist attack. What we see is damage control by a President more concerned about reelection that being square with the American public.

      October 21, 2012 at 8:00 am | Reply
    • Jay Lew

      Except Candy later admitted she made a you did too!

      October 21, 2012 at 11:31 am | Reply
  72. Antonino M. Jumawid

    For the US democratic system to be good model of the free world, republicans and democrats should focus on what they would and could do if put in office . Platforms that are specific and doable. Using alleged failure and capitalizing on tragedy is not a high level campaign. The Republicans are mgood just like the Democrats but, Republicans have no right to use the Bengnhazi tragedy against Obama because under the Republican Watch , thousands died inside America- the 9/11 incident. The intelligence agencies under the Republicans failed miserably in getting the head of Al Queda. And its under Obama that US military intelligence agencies captured and killed Osama.

    October 21, 2012 at 5:54 am | Reply
  73. Guest

    The day after the Benghazi attack, Prez Hollywood went campaigning in Las Vegas. That right there is one of many examples of why a sane person should vote for Romney.

    October 21, 2012 at 2:26 am | Reply
    • repsrstupido

      you republicans want to forget americans are being killed almost daily in wars you started. you don' seem to give a damn about the 4000 that died for a lie in iraq, and the thousands wounded. you are about to elect a descendant of a bloodline of cowards who wants to send the sons of others to war.

      October 21, 2012 at 4:19 am | Reply
      • Mike Drake

        It's funny,I do not remember starting a single war. How about this, I was a life long Democrat until the broke it off in Hillary's butt. It has now become the party of gimme aka Gimmecrats

        October 21, 2012 at 8:29 am |
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      October 21, 2012 at 4:30 am | Reply
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      October 21, 2012 at 4:31 am | Reply
  74. w bullock

    May God bless the untied of amercian
    Romney / Ryan

    October 21, 2012 at 2:21 am | Reply
  75. SPQR

    May God bless The United States of America.

    President Obama 2012 !!!!

    "We the People...."

    October 21, 2012 at 1:52 am | Reply
    • Guest

      There is no good reason to re-elect a failing president.

      October 21, 2012 at 2:28 am | Reply
      • 40acres

        But there are plenty of reasons to re-elect this President and no logical reasons to vote for Romney.

        October 21, 2012 at 7:20 am |
      • William

        Amen to that.
        Oh sorry, your not supposed to say amen on CNN.

        October 21, 2012 at 8:10 am |
    • Taskmaster

      God bless the U.S. And protect us from the Food Stamp democraps.

      October 21, 2012 at 9:18 am | Reply
      • 2+2=4

        Kill another few thousand of nothing at all but your own ignorance and get back to us spiteful meatball.

        October 22, 2012 at 9:04 am |
  76. MD

    Re: the website that some people keep posting (L.A. Times article).
    Checked the L.A. Times story out. Don't believe it is entirely forthcoming and true. However, let's suppose it is true. So, it is that easy to attack our embassy and kill our ambassador and other Americans? So it doesn't even take a long, well – planned attack. Now everyone knows, you can simply and spontaneously decide to attack U.S. Embassy's and it's that easy to kill U.S. diplomats. Planned attack or unplanned attack...either way it shows Obama and his administration are very incompetent. Ask yourself this. Would you want to be at the mercy of Obama's decisions when your life or a loved one's life is in danger? I say no way. Obama needs to go.

    October 21, 2012 at 12:23 am | Reply
    • criticalthinkerr

      So I assume you said the same thing 12 TIMES OVER when Bush was president, right?

      12 Terrorist attacks on US Embassies During Bush-Cheney Presidency

      1. Jan. 22, 2002 Calcutta, India Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami gunmen attack Consulate

      2. June 14, 2002 Karachi, Pakistan al-Qaeda truck bomb detonates outside Consulate

      3. Oct. 12, 2002 Denpasar, Indonesia Consular Office bombed by Jemaah Islamiyah as part of the Bali bombings

      4. Feb. 28, 2003 Islamabad, Pakistan Unknown gunmen attack Embassy

      5. June 30, 2004 Tashkent, Uzbekistan Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan suicide bomber attacks Embassy

      6. Dec. 06, 2004 Jeddah, Saudia Arabia al-Qaeda gunmen raid diplomatic compound

      7. March 02, 2006 Karachi, Pakistan Car bomb explodes outside Embassy unknown

      8. Sept. 12, 2006 Demasacuc, Syria Gunmen raid US Embassy

      9. Jan. 12, 2007 Athens, Greece RPG Fired at Embassy by Revolutionary Struggle

      10. March 18, 2007 Sana’a, Yemen Mortar attack against US Embassy

      11. July 09, 2008 Istanbul, Turkey Armed attack against Consulate

      12, Sept. 17, 2008 Sana’a, Yemen Two car bombs outside US embassy in Yemeni capital

      October 21, 2012 at 8:29 am | Reply
      • Taskmaster

        criticalthinker: Bush didn't try to place the blame on Clinton. Every time Obama Screws up you liberals try to put the blame on Bush or Israel. Obama is a miserable failure at every thing except passing out food stamps.

        October 21, 2012 at 9:24 am |
  77. EKIA

    The intelligence shifted??? The administration must be joking. We have 4 dead Americans, just a bump in the road, meanwhile the president is trolling talk shows and lying about terrorism, spontaneous demonstrations and youtube videos. The only defense they have is binders and Bigbird. The president is a joke, the worst part is he is such an utter failure that it's not funny.

    October 20, 2012 at 11:56 pm | Reply
    • 40acres

      I'm sure you were really impressed by Romney's snap judgement that accused the President of apologizing to the demonstrators before he even knew what the timeline of events was. Such a fine example of leadership.

      October 21, 2012 at 7:25 am | Reply
  78. Nick

    Name calling and fear tactics. That's all you repubs got. The truth is that intelligent people don't make snap decisions and comments. You can have selective memory if you want but the fact is situations such as this require thoughtful analysis. You guys can't wait to use the tragedy of these deaths for political gain and can't wait to point the finger. Who cares if there is an ongoing investigation. But then again I don't expect much given that your party's standard bearer didn't event wait for the family members to be notified before he decided to take political advantage of the deaths. Shame on you.

    October 20, 2012 at 11:55 pm | Reply
    • EKIA

      I'm a liberal. Four dead Americans is just a bum in the road. Now on to more important issues. Binders and Bigbird. There, happy Nick?

      October 20, 2012 at 11:58 pm | Reply
      • Nick

        I bet you were asking the same tough questions about what was said in the run up to the wars that have killed thousands of soldiers and hundreds of thousands of civilians. Spare me your indignation. The fact that you say you're a liberal changes nothing. How long did it take before we found out there were no WMDs? It's only been five weeks and the investigation is ongoing. Only one side is trying to score political points here. You guys are all hopped up on anger and can't wait to blame someone and go out and shoot some more people. BTW I never said anything about big bird or binders so maybe you should save that sh!t for someone else.

        October 21, 2012 at 12:08 am |
    • Taskmaster

      The investigation into the Libyan screw up will go the same way the "Fast and Furious "investigation went. White wash and cover up.

      October 21, 2012 at 9:27 am | Reply
      • KTHill

        That's our government plan and simple; it did not start with the current administration, and it won't end with it either. No matter who is elected, we will always be subject to cover-ups. It's the only truth when it comes to American politics. How long before Issa realizes that he is getting criticized just as much as the Obama administration and backs down, citing some ridiculous conclusion? We'll never get a clear picture of what happened.

        October 21, 2012 at 9:47 am |
    • Hmmmm.....

      I don't think it was smart of our President to lie to the citizens of the United States, and the UN.

      October 22, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Reply
  79. Stephanie

    I truly don't know the answer to this. Do the moderators usually pull up transcripts during these debates? How did the pres know she had it right in front of her when he told her to read it?

    October 20, 2012 at 11:30 pm | Reply
    • EKIA

      And how did she get it wrong during the debate when she was reading right off the transcript. Candy Crowley is incompetent.

      October 20, 2012 at 11:59 pm | Reply
      • Alfuso

        What did she get wrong? She said Obama did indeed use "terror" word in the Rose Garden the next day, while Romney insisted Obama had not. As to the rest, she said Romney was mostly correct.

        October 22, 2012 at 5:47 am |
      • Hmmmm.....

        When Obama used the word "terror" it was not used in the context that this was a "terror attack". Obama lied when he knew the truth.

        October 22, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • Guest

      The debaters should be able to talk without interference or bias. The fact checking should begin after the debate.

      October 21, 2012 at 2:30 am | Reply


    October 20, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Reply
    • Guest

      For sure, prez hollywood doesn't have time to handle defense because we know he has been skipping half his intel mtgs.

      October 21, 2012 at 2:32 am | Reply
      • 40acres

        Old lies smell even worse than new ones....and your post is a very old lie.

        October 21, 2012 at 7:28 am |
  81. Michelle

    Of interesting note:
    Khamis Gaddafi killed on 1 year anniversary guardian uk
    Forces capture Gaghafis exspokesman on 1 year anniversary. Via news

    October 20, 2012 at 10:42 pm | Reply
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