Army general faces possible court-martial on sexual conduct, other charges
Gen. Sinclair (Middle)
September 26th, 2012
06:22 PM ET

Army general faces possible court-martial on sexual conduct, other charges

By Larry Shaughnessy

The former deputy commander of the Army's 82nd Airborne Division has been charged with numerous violations of military law, including forcible sodomy, the Army said Wednesday.

Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair has been charged with "forcible sodomy, wrongful sexual conduct, attempted violation of an order, violations of regulations by wrongfully engaging in inappropriate relationships, misusing a government travel charge card" and several other counts, said Col. Kevin Arata, a spokesman for the Fort Bragg-based 82nd Airborne Division, which since its creation during World War I has been one of the most celebrated units in the Army.

Specifics of the alleged crimes were not released. It could not immediately be determined whether Sinclair has an attorney.

Army spokesman George Wright said Sinclair currently is still on active duty, serving as a special assistant to the commander of the 18th Airborne Corps, and is not restricted to base. As is standard procedure in military criminal matters, he continues to be paid his salary.

Sinclair, who was sent home to FortBragg in North Carolina from Afghanistan earlier this year, will next face the military equivalent of a preliminary hearing, a so-called Article 32.

That's a hearing in which both the prosecutor in the case and the defendant's lawyer can present witnesses and evidence. At the end of the session the "investigating officer," who acts as a judge in the hearing, will make a recommendation as to whether a defendant should face court martial. That recommendation goes to the "appointing authority," an officer higher up the chain of command from the defendant.

No date has been set yet for the Article 32 hearing.

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  2. Bill

    I don't understand why is allowed to be still on the streets...???

    October 1, 2012 at 10:06 pm | Reply
  3. Rodroderick

    ...and now you know where they got the nickname "Screaming Chickens".

    September 28, 2012 at 9:47 am | Reply
    • armyrabbit

      Hey idiot, the 82nd airborn is the All American Division. The 101st was know by "chicken men" during the vietnam war. Because the Viet cong would always tell each other to run if you encounter the chicken men, they got that nickname. They didn't know what a eagle was. do alittle research before you sound like a jack A**.

      September 28, 2012 at 10:44 am | Reply
  4. Troy

    Do you get backpay for sodomy?

    September 28, 2012 at 9:23 am | Reply
  5. Eraserface

    What do you expect from the type of person that makes money killing people? He is of course innocent until proven guilty, but I won't be surprised to find that he is guilty.

    September 27, 2012 at 11:47 pm | Reply
    • ohmygod50

      What do you expect from our armed services that ignores the rape of our females in the service?????? Shame on us.

      September 28, 2012 at 1:40 am | Reply
      • lol at the dims

        Look at the silly dims bawling again. I'd be mad too if I was 50 and living in mom's basement haha

        September 28, 2012 at 6:49 am |
      • armyrabbit

        Because you just repeat whatever news you happen to see for the week, let me educate you. Catching rapists is a national problem, not just a military one. Congress just likes to pick on the military, because we actually try to fix problems. If they really cared about reducing rape, they would try to fix the problem in the civilian world first. But, civilians don't have a scence of duty to follow orders from congress.

        http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500690_162-5590118.html

        http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

        September 28, 2012 at 10:52 am |
  6. Pnm9pnm

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    September 27, 2012 at 10:46 pm | Reply
    • Tommy

      Was this even English?

      September 28, 2012 at 9:59 am | Reply
  7. teresa

    I wanted to thank all branches of the armed forces. With all these stories in the news, they have helped make me a happier mom. How? My son had wanted to join the navy and now he is so disgusted with the treatment of EACH OTHER in the services, he no longer wants to be associated with any of them. I had been worried as any parent would be of a child joining the armed forces.

    And to the Armed Forces Personnel that behave themselves: thank you for being simple decent human beings who are trying to do a job and are having to struggle to stay in their positions. You are appreciated.

    September 27, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Reply
    • lol at the dims

      Your son is a wimp. He fabricated an excuse not to join, probably learned that trick from his parents.

      September 28, 2012 at 7:03 am | Reply
      • slrman

        Again with the unfounded allegations. What you say is nothing more than your uninformed opinion and hateful thinking. But that seems to be as far as you "thinking" is capable of going.

        September 28, 2012 at 7:05 am |
    • Steve

      Thanks for keeping your son at home. Those of us who volunteer to stand on the line will carry the water for your family.

      September 28, 2012 at 7:26 am | Reply
    • Rick

      Yes Mom. Keep Junior on the ninny. I don't want him serving next to me.

      September 28, 2012 at 7:36 am | Reply
      • slrman

        You missed the point (as expected). He doesn't want to be serving next to you. But your arrogant ignorance can't admit to0 that.

        September 28, 2012 at 7:41 am |
  8. Pnm9pnm

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    September 27, 2012 at 10:19 pm | Reply
    • SkepticStill

      ? ? ? What? ? ? ?

      September 27, 2012 at 10:35 pm | Reply
    • teresa

      Pnm: secret code to someone? If not, that message was deep, very deeeeeeeeeeeeep.

      September 27, 2012 at 10:46 pm | Reply
    • Gunner

      Would you please learn how to spell. Your gibberish makes anything you say completely useless.

      September 28, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Reply
  9. Drone

    Alleged criminal behavior of one brigadier general cannot justify bashing all soldiers.Civilian authority makes a decision to go to war.Soldiers are trained to obey orders.Abuse of authority must be punished.

    September 27, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Reply
  10. Drone

    innocent untill proven guilty-This is the focus of justice.
    Can we allow /accept all countries carrying out crossborder executions by drones?Is the pretext of "terrorism"enough to unleash global chaos and summary executions from space?Many countries will have drone technology in future.Is this the new paradigm for international justice!

    September 27, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Reply
  11. Pnm9pnm

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    September 27, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Reply
    • teresa

      Pnm: ahhh, finally some words threaded to get her that made a bit of sense.

      September 27, 2012 at 10:47 pm | Reply
  12. Alex

    A freaking f.a.g.

    September 27, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Reply
    • frank5634

      Well braniac, NY Daily News states "An Army brigadier general has been charged with forcible sodomy and having inappropriate relationships with several female subordinates/"

      Does that make you stupid , ignorant or both?

      September 27, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Reply
      • rmsbl4

        @frank5634 I guess they have changed the wording about the females.

        September 27, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
    • Sam

      You are claiming this general is a lesbian?

      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/army-general-charged-sodomy-inappropriate-relationships-female-subordinates-article-1.1169314

      September 27, 2012 at 9:48 pm | Reply
  13. Charles

    He hasn't got a lawyer yet!!!! He better get 10 of them.....

    September 27, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Reply
    • Allan

      That would be a waste of at least 9 lawyers.

      September 27, 2012 at 6:50 pm | Reply
  14. true justice

    When will the king and queen of yellow journalism, TMZ & CNN, Admit the truth that they allowed Obama to destroy the military to protect their g-a-y support Agenda (did not their poster boy Anderson just proudly proclaim he is a Rump Ranger)? .  They wanted to divert attention from the damage Rump Rangers have done to national security because they worship the culture that lusts for little Boys, sick Pervs. 

    September 27, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Reply
    • concernedforliberty

      This guy is one of the reason's why our Military needs more civilian oversight. The U.S. has poured so much money in to our military Colonel's and Generals think they are gods. The Deparment of Defense has so many vendors spending billions of our tax dollars just to lobby for more weapons of all types more supplies and defenses of all types. The fact is our department of defense is a blight on this planet. I work for the DOD in a private industry, I am thankful for my job but this whole MIC is a stupid jobs program no different than the some of the CCC or other programs Roosevelt came up with during the depression. The only difference is our government with our tax money now invests in ways to kill people around the globe rather than how to educate, feed, care for, explore new horizons, develope new energy sources etc. The military is essential to our countries strength and leadership globally but it should not be ALL we lead at. We could cut our DOD budget in half and still be 5X bigger than any of the top 10 countries budget combined.

      September 27, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Reply
      • DRTSAT

        Uh, the Commander in chief, the president, is a civilian. As is the SECDEF and the SECARMY. All of their assitants are as well. There's plenty of oversight. What we need to do is make sure the General is not allowed to retire if he is, in fact, guilty. But, as usually happens with senior personnel, they retire at the next lower grade instead of doing time. The enlisted personnel would be in jail.

        September 28, 2012 at 8:08 am |
      • Iraq and Afghan vet

        More civilian oversight? Like the Political Commissars in the Soviet Union? I don't think any amount of civilian oversight would have stopped this from happening. This happens in the civilian coorporate world, amongst politicians and amongst our DoD civlians who are supposed to be overseeing the military. The difference is that there are greater legal consequences for a military member doing this.

        As far as halfing our budget and still staying ahead of any of the top 10 countries, I believe you need to do the math on that again. The next 10 countries in line would equal our current defense budget. Countries like China, Russia and Saudi Arabia. Nice garden spots, perhaps you'd be more comfortable there?

        I find it rather hypocritical of you that you work for DoD, yet decry their expenditures and moan for more civilian oversight. Perhaps you ought to stick to your principals and quit? I will remind you though, it is civilian oversight that turned the military into the big budget beast that it is. Civilians oversee the procurement process and set the rules, not uniformed personnel. Civilians control the defense budget, not the uniformed personnel.

        September 28, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • slrman

      You make serious allegations but do not provide even one shred of proof of anything but your own bigotry and ignorance.

      You would fit in very well in Iran. Have you considered moving there?

      September 27, 2012 at 5:44 pm | Reply
    • Liberace; America's Greatest American

      You refer to TMZ as "journalism"? Are you some kind of f*****g idiot?

      September 27, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Reply
    • frank5634

      Go sell crazy someplace else.

      September 27, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Reply
    • jnpa

      Who said this general is gay? Why do you think it was a male he was involved with? Take the blinders off and stop being so anti-Obama. Those assumptions only make you look like a fool!

      September 27, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Reply
    • lol at the dims

      That post is exactly right, now let's sit back and listen to the pillow biters squeal.

      September 28, 2012 at 6:53 am | Reply
  15. manyote

    Was it all "legitimate?"

    September 27, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Reply
  16. Drone

    Do you think all people being killed by drones are charged and found guilty in a court before being executed in their homes?You know a large percentage of these happen to be women and children.

    September 27, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    September 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Reply
    • Iraq and Afghan vet

      Until you're willing to pickup a weapon and come to the fight, save your "outrage" about the process of how drones are used to kill. Al Qaeda did not convict any of the women and children killed on 9-11 in a court of law either. You need to understand the difference between a law enforcement operation and war.

      September 27, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Reply
      • concernedforliberty

        As a soldier of this country you should be ashamed comparing our countries standards and honor to that of our enemies. We should never want to kill civilians or innocents while we know it happens we should never justify our behavior based on that of extremists. If your only excuse is "until youv'e picked up a weapon and defended our country" basically saying "everyone else but those in uniform can go ........... themselves! You best remember it is our tax money that PAYs your salary, your education, your kids birth, your hospital bills everything you have you got as a government hand out from the civilians in this country you elitist puke!

        September 27, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
      • Judas Priest

        Soldier, dropping a bomb on a battlefield is very different from cruising around outside a combat zone, seeing something that looks like a threat, firing on it– and being wrong.
        I would think someone who's been on the ground would appreciate how much better it is to be right about who you kill. Our ratio of bad guys to civilians killed in drone operations is less than one in ten, and frankly that's just not efficient. Boots and eyes on the ground mean you are that much more certain that who you're shooting is the enemy and not, say, a bunch of wedding guests.

        September 27, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
      • Liberace; America's Greatest American

        Oh, look – another bullsh!t artist attention wh0re looking for a pat on the back. Welcome back, "soldier". Now get back to work and pump that f*****g gas.

        September 27, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
      • DRTSAT

        @concernedforliberty – your comments are dead wrong. We know where our pay comes from. It come from the people we serve to defend. Even those that appear to show, for no apparent reason, disdain for the military as you appear to. Military personnel are not elitist as your comment states. And, by the way, we pay federal and state taxes as well. We're not exempt.

        September 28, 2012 at 8:14 am |
      • slrman

        One way to recognize the men and women in our military would be to exempt all military pay from any taxes. That would be little enough to recognize the service of people tat could be earning far more in civilian life.

        September 28, 2012 at 9:11 am |
      • Iraq and Afghan vet

        None of you have a clue about the process of approving a drone strike and how the targets are vetted. Liberace likes to talk big with a keyboard, that's how he "fights." Very brave of you to talk down to me like you know anything about me. Brave from the safety of anonymity, but never brave enough to really fight for something.
        The sad irony of serving this country is that the resultant freedoms allow people like Liberace to thrive here, people who develop an unrealistic, utopian world view which can only be born in the relative safety and comfort of a free society provided by the labors of people like me. He'll never fight for freedom, he'll just knock those who have ensured them and complain about their actions. Many countries in which I've served where people who hold opinions like yours and think like you don't last very long. Be glad you were born here. Out in the wide world noisy, defenseless animals like you end up as tomorrow's lion excrement. Now aren't you glad there are zoo keepers like me to keep those lions at bay?
        No. I don't suppose you are.

        September 28, 2012 at 11:01 am |
      • Just an Opinion

        Well Said my Brother of War.. Bravo!

        September 28, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
      • slrman

        Are you saying your standards of conduct are no better than that of a terrorist? Happily, Bradley Manning's are not. Neither are those of the majority of the serving military.

        September 28, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • chris

      do all you petty libs, who want America to fight a war with one hand tied behind our backs, realize that the enemy does not take into account the fact that they kill women and kids. our rules of engagements are already stifling. this is war. people die. the point of war is to break their will to fight. until that is done, I don't care how many we kill. if libs totally controlled everything...we'd have already been conquered by some and living under occupation because you all want to "fight fair" wfile enemies will not. yes I am a veteran. people who've never worn the uniform tend to think war is all about a old time gentlens duel or something...so naive

      September 27, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Reply
      • slrman

        What you ignore is how counter-producive these wars are. Whenever we kill a Taliban or Al Quada soldier, ten more volunteer for them. If we kill a civilian, 50 more volunteer. In the end, it will be less successful than Vietnam.

        September 28, 2012 at 9:15 am |
    • Marquise

      Where was the condemnation when America dropped bombs on Iraq? Thousands of Iraqi women and children died, and we totally destroyed the infrastructure of Iraq. Too bad the Muslim extremists who plant IED aren't so conscientious. Drones have virtually dismantled Al Qeada and the Taliban. They have their suicide bombers and IED and we have our drones. All is fair in love and war.

      September 27, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Reply
  17. dman

    when you are perfect, you may cast the first stone. don't judge the person, only the actions.

    September 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Reply
  18. Evn

    This will probably not proceed beyond the Article 32 hearing and a sweat heart deal will be worked out. RHIP in the military, and if this were happening on the civilian side and involved someone high and mighty, they'd likely end up with a cushy resolution too.

    September 27, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Reply
    • Cetus

      As public as this has become, and given the criminal nature of the allegations, this retired Navy commander predicts that it will go to court martial.

      When I was on active duty, a colleague who made brigadier attended a briefing for new flag officers. He said the first presenter told them that at least half of them would screw up within the first year and never make it to two stars. Most would retire, but some would wind up in Leavenworth.

      September 27, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Reply
  19. dbw

    That is one fine looking do. High and tight. Yes sir.

    September 27, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Reply
  20. RustyHinges8

    Some people feel so empowered by their positions; they believe they are “above the law”. Napoleon, Alexander the Great, MacArthur….and General Sinclair, apparently. Too much war breaks down morality.

    September 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Reply
  21. giles12345

    disgraceful

    September 27, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Reply
  22. Jesse Pinkman

    I heard he is close with Sgt. Ben Dover and they raise pet gerbils together.

    September 27, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Reply
  23. Tim

    Another high mark for our so-called "heroes" whom Robin Meade and the rest of the flag waving media expects to bow and genuflect to. I bow to no one.

    September 27, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Reply
    • Adam

      Wow. You're a regular Nelson Mandela. Quite a bit of vitriol for service members. One, two or two-score turds don't override the honorable service of millions.

      September 27, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Reply
    • Tommy Boy

      Well Tim, just remember that you have the freedom to bow to no one thanks to those of us who actually secured it for you.

      September 27, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Reply
      • Liberace; America's Greatest American

        The only thing you've "secured" for us is the enmity of most of the planet. Congratulations.

        September 27, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
  24. DaveNYUSA

    How incredibly stupid.
    Achieving the rank of Brigadier General is a long, difficult road, and to throw your entire career (not to mention entire retirement future) away for something as foolish as this is mind boggling.
    Sorry, Sir, but any respect you ever had from any of your troops is now gone.

    September 27, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Reply
    • juniusgallio

      Innocent until proven guilty, Dave. Now, if he's proven guilty, _then_ your comment has complete relevance.

      September 27, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Reply
      • Nancy

        I thought military courts are different than civilians – where in that case, the person is actually guilty until proven innocent. I may be wrong, but I had a discussion about this with a professor a few weeks ago.

        September 27, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
  25. Jerry Sandusky

    PENN STATE FOOTBALL RULES!

    September 27, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Reply
    • jackmehoffer

      Now get down and snap the ball to me. Nice!!!!

      September 27, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Reply
  26. Francisco d'Anconia

    The stupid is strong here.

    Innocent until PROVEN guilty people. The second he is, you can all voice your opinion on how he should be punished.

    September 27, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Reply
    • Linda

      Francisco are you a rapist too?

      September 27, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
      • Francisco d'Anconia

        No Linda, I'm an American. Why don't you try to step up to that level of principled behavior?

        September 27, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
      • anna

        To fransico, what s stupid comment, "I am an american" read the papers idiot, americans commit crimes too.

        September 27, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
      • Francisco d'Anconia

        And until recently, anna, Americans thought it fitting to actually have a trial and a conviction before passing judgment. But apparently, now, satisfying your blood lust is more important than determining the innocence or guilt of the accused.

        Because, God knows, no one has ever been falsely accused of a crime, right anna?

        September 27, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • WaitaMinute

      Absolutely correct. I can't imagine him being innocent if they went public with the charges, but I am not on his military jury.

      September 27, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Reply
      • Mike

        Really? REALLY? You honestly believe that everyone the govt 'charges' is by definition also guilty? You need to take a look at the files of the Innocense Project. Those poor folks were 'charged and convicted' and then found to be innocent sometimes decades later. In this country we have the so called Miranda Law that outlines your rights as a citizen with regard to the police. The Miranda warning is to protect you. And just Who THE F!@# do you think you are being protected from. DUH, the police and prosecutors maybe?

        September 27, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • Z-man

      AMEN Francisco - innocent until PROVEN guilty

      September 27, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Reply
    • Liberace; America's Greatest American

      Anna and Linda both come off as incredibly stupid. Even for dames.

      September 27, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Reply
    • Sinclair

      Thanks for your permission! Much appreciated!
      I'll we'll all wait for you to give us to okay to speak!

      September 27, 2012 at 11:05 pm | Reply
  27. Liberty

    The sad thing is, this behavior has probably always existed, and it has probably always been covered up.

    I feel sympathy for those who are subordinate to those who abuse their positions of power and who use their power for selfish gratification.

    September 27, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Reply
  28. Lou

    Why are people so shocked? The military is a reflection of society. They (Military) try to make better citizen morally and ethically, but some people just can't learn. The military has the good, the bad and the ugly...all branches.

    September 27, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Reply
    • teresa

      Lou: people are shocked because he made it so high up on the ladder and has NEVER been reprimanded... he kept on going and going and going and getting those fancy words before his name. Thats the SHOCK of it. Why has it taken this long???

      Why didnt his peers notice he was nuts?

      September 27, 2012 at 10:51 pm | Reply
  29. Rosslaw

    He should have held on for a possible Romney win. Then everything he is accused of would be legal and top secret.

    September 27, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Reply
  30. Liberty

    This sounds like an abuse of power, to me. And that's one of the worst things a person can do.

    Such a person does not deserve to have any power.

    September 27, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
  31. Lou

    I can tell one thing thats definite. This General definitely did something Very Wrong and will be found guilty of many of the charges.

    September 27, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
  32. Liberty

    Is it any wonder there are so many reports of abuse in the military.

    This general should be fired and he should lose his pension.

    He should be thankful he's not in prison.

    September 27, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Reply
  33. DefyTheGods

    Jeffery Sinclair?! The Earth Force commander from Babylon 5? He's definitely "The One"! LOL

    September 27, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Reply
    • Francisco d'Anconia

      Was listening to Jerry Doyle (Michael Garibaldi) a couple days ago and he was saying the guy who played Sinclair (Michael O'Hare) was a horrible actor. I was a little surprised.

      September 27, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Reply
      • ZooKeeper

        I'm a little surprised to hear that as well because they were written to be such good friends. However, after watching the series numerous times, I see what he's talking about.

        And, you've got my support on the innocent-until-proven-guilty thing. Horrible allegations and a detriment to our Army if they're true, but he's not been convicted yet.

        Also, not impressed by Larry Shaughnessy's use of "so-called Article 32 hearing." It IS an Article 32 hearing. That's what it's called. The Army didn't make it up just for this general. Just because he's never heard of it doesn't make it fantasy.

        September 27, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • RalphHau

      He's a General In the Army, political appointment and yes, he is a Republican. Too bad you poor soul. However, he is a rapist any way you put it and should get the full extent of the law!

      September 27, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Reply
      • Francisco d'Anconia

        A. You have no idea what we are talking about.

        B. He hasn't been convicted of anything yet, so, you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

        September 27, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
  34. ROMNEY2012

    he needs to be demoted to REAR ADMIRAL and thrown in jail with the rest of the godless ho-mos that destroy america!

    September 27, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply
    • Francisco d'Anconia

      I think you need to look up the word sodomy.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
      • Stefanie

        I agree Francisco... people want to voice their thoughts or opinions and often are voicing absolute ignorance!

        September 27, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
      • ROMNEY2012

        Sodomy is the devil's work, that's all we need to know. The love of the LORD will shelter us from evil, those that stray and question his LOVE will suffer the wrath of SATAN! Do not question his wisdom, for who are you to claim a higher authority than the LORD HIMSELF?!?!?

        September 27, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • Bevis

      heh heh.. rear

      September 27, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Reply
    • Voice of Reason

      You've no clue what it is to stand a watch or serve your country. There is no excuse if this man is convicted, he should get the full extenet the UCMJ allows. Your reference to a Navy Admiral was dull-witted, ignorant comment. Go 'F' your mother.

      September 27, 2012 at 12:18 pm | Reply
    • dear ROMNEY2012

      dear ROMNEY2012
      before you open your mouth to speak to your mind and use your keyboard to type a comment, please check your facts..
      learn to know what the word Sodomy means. i can see that you are a strong Christian but you need to read your bible well my friend. No body is questioning God's wisdom here, so stop judging (do not judge, or you too will be judged Matthew 7:1), stop being hypocritical, people like you will have more sin than the one who turn to god and ask for forgiveness. So stop coming here and saying, "will suffer the wrath of satan" why not try to walk the walk and make sure you are without no sin. from your comments you have committed sin already BY Judging others.. so Dont.. Stop it. You are giving the rest of us as Christians a bad reputation..

      September 27, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Reply
      • ROMNEY2012

        Get bent, Obama loving Satan Worshipper

        September 27, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • slrman

      FYI, you moron, no atheist is a devil worshipper. Satan is an invention of the deluded theists and doesn't exist any more than your jesus. But you're so far into your delusions that you seem incapable of ever having a coherent thought.

      September 27, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Reply
      • Z-man

        And I see that you're incapable of civil discourse. Is that true of all atheists?

        September 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
      • slrman

        @Z-Man Tell me, what have I said that is not true? What you want to label as "uncivil" is only a statement of observed facts. WHen it's true, it is not an insult. If you don't like the facts, change your behavior.

        September 27, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
      • jiva

        Here! Here! Well said slrman.

        September 27, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
      • slrman

        Thanks. Sometimes, I know I get rather strident, but no more so that the religious reich with their threats of hell and proselytizing.

        September 28, 2012 at 6:09 am |
    • sadie456

      ROMNEY2012 presumes to judge others with his sanctimonious claptrap. Oh, how blind are those who possess small minds!!

      September 27, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Reply
    • RickBangkok

      Why not snap your fingers and have your God do that you sweet thing.

      September 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Reply
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    • JTC

      Rear Admiral would be a promotion, actually. But I sense you're not really interested in facts.

      September 28, 2012 at 9:36 am | Reply
  35. Tim

    What was the name of the young man getting 'forcibly sodomized'?

    September 27, 2012 at 11:54 am | Reply
    • Stefanie

      Ummmmm, Tim... sodomy is not exclusive to men. Maybe look it up?

      September 27, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Reply
      • Jerry Sandusky

        It's not exclusive to little boys but it should be! Why settle for an inferior experience when you can have the best?

        September 27, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
      • mike

        Statistically speaking the probability that he was buggering a man is much higher due the disproportionate number of men in the services. It could be otherwise, but I don't think that there are very many female Airborne.

        September 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • Tommy Boy

      I'm thinking it was "Tim".

      September 27, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Reply
  36. amm3770

    It is about power!

    September 27, 2012 at 11:54 am | Reply
  37. Fred

    Charged with forcible sodomy and he's still on active duty... LOL.

    September 27, 2012 at 11:40 am | Reply
    • Steve

      Here in America your are INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty. Or do we go around fireing people based off allegation? I think you raped and sodomized baby panda's. Guess you should be fired.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:54 am | Reply
    • Francisco d'Anconia

      Do you truly not understand the difference between a charge and a conviction?

      September 27, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply
    • Alan S

      Fred: Of course he's still on active duty. He has been charged. He hasn't had a trial yet. The man is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:59 am | Reply
      • mike

        At least civilian police officers are taken out of active duty until the case is investigated and charges are brought or dropped. So in the 'real' world this action and charge would tend to require the General be sent home.

        September 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
      • JTC

        To mike- he was. He was sent home to serve with another unit in the meantime.

        September 28, 2012 at 9:34 am |
  38. Sunflower

    Bad enough he did all this stuff, but to continue to pay his salary with my (our) tax dollars is a slap in the face. Glad to see that they are at least taking it seriously. Usually command staff has things swept under the carpet...

    September 27, 2012 at 11:33 am | Reply
    • James

      Well he does have the right to be tried and found guilty before facing punishment.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:36 am | Reply
    • Jack 63

      Innocent until proven guilty. Ever hear of it?

      September 27, 2012 at 11:41 am | Reply
      • dan

        yepp like drome victims "Innocent until proven guilty". I sense you are hurt.

        September 27, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • chulachaser 2

      you already have him convicted on hearsay. bet this turns out to be a supervision of an interregation.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:47 am | Reply
    • Nicci. Ayala

      You have no idea if he did it or not....you don't know the facts. I'm not defending him but too many people like to jump to "off with his head". If you think he shouldn't be paid remember the ass who shot 13 innocent ppl in Ft Hood in 2009 and they KNOW he did it is still getting $7000 a month in military pay because he is officially still "active" but yet his lawyers are free........

      September 27, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
    • Stefanie

      Careful Sunflower.... someone might allege you did something criminal too... would you expect a trial first? Or should we just commence with stoning or maybe the stockade based solely on the allegations, without an investigation.

      September 27, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Reply
    • Greg

      Hey Sunflower - please see above comments about how the American justice system works. Innocent until proven guilty is one of the absolutes and is not true in many places in the world. And yes, he's still on active duty. If they kicked him out of the Army based on accusations, the military justice system would have no more jurisdiction. So should they make him a member of the Army Reserve on inactive status? He would still be drawing pay and doing nothing. He was relieved (fired) from his position. Yes, he's still drawing pay. What if everyone in the military who is accused of something, awaiting trial, etc were to have their pay taken away? Would you like to deal with the families? You can't make an exception just because he draws a rather hefty paycheck as a general officer. Or because you consider his crimes heinous. He's now "special assistant" to somebody at XVIIIth Abn Corps, so he's getting crap work to perform. Let the wheels of justice turn. The military justice system is quite good. It's likely he will be convicted on most of the charges, given that they apparently have enough evidence to have relieved him. If convicted on "forced sodomy", that's probably prison time and loss of his retirement. But I'm conjecturing here.

      September 27, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Reply
      • Nicci. Ayala

        Well said Greg very damn well said!!!!!!,

        September 27, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
  39. mikem

    I thought sodomy was OK now that gays are OK in the military.

    September 27, 2012 at 11:24 am | Reply
    • Sick World

      Just another example of the U.S. military's efforts to win the hearts and minds of the poor, downtrodden Afghan people....

      September 27, 2012 at 11:37 am | Reply
    • Stefanie

      Do you know what sodomy means? This is really amazing - so many people, some who might even possess an education and not a sliver of a clue as to what sodomy even means. Sad.

      September 27, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Reply
    • JTC

      Gays were already 'okay' in the miitary, they just couldn't be open about it. As for your question- it's the 'forcible' part that they're taking issue with.

      September 28, 2012 at 9:33 am | Reply
  40. J

    "Forcible" AKA Rape? Whats with the light wording?

    September 27, 2012 at 11:15 am | Reply
    • Dan I

      Generally the use of the term "forcible" in this context is to denote it as being different from statutory rape or rape by fraud.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:30 am | Reply
    • qwedie

      Maybe the question is was it a legitimate or illegitimate rape! A lot will depend on that if there are GOP members deciding the case.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:33 am | Reply
      • WD

        You'd have to ask Slick Willie about that.

        September 27, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  41. JerryIsMyHero

    It's not forcible, if I am of higher rank. It's called following orders.

    September 27, 2012 at 11:13 am | Reply
  42. dad

    Glad to see he is already convicted. Maybe you should first ask why hes still on active duty? Perhaps there isn't enough evidence to convict him before the hearing that determines if there is even enough evidence for a trial?

    September 27, 2012 at 11:09 am | Reply
    • dc

      Perhaps you didn't read the article properly....

      September 27, 2012 at 11:28 am | Reply
  43. BS

    You are a sick human who should ask for God's mercy for your SICK and SAD thoughts. By your logic a man r a ping a woman would basically be OK because men being with women is "natural." It is people like you - with your thoughts and actions - that have caused sickos like this General to think they can get away with this stuff in the first place. There is a HUGE difference between consensual s e x and r a p e.

    P.S. The article didn't mention if the s o d o m y was of a man or a woman... you know women have a n a l too. Just sayin'

    September 27, 2012 at 11:03 am | Reply
  44. gator

    What a disgrace! And the fact that he's being treated differently than if the same charges were against an enlisted or lower ranked person is disappointing! What happened to integrity? moral character? Brig. Gen. Sinclair's behavior lacks both. He should be immediately removed from command, incarcerated until his 'trial' is complete, & hopefully dismissed from the military with NO pension or financial compensation. He is NOT a leader & violated our trust in his ability to lead with honor & integrity.

    September 27, 2012 at 11:03 am | Reply
    • Person

      Officers routinely get better treatment than enlisted. I've seen commands leave enlisted personnel in civilian prison for two months on a charge that, ultimately, was dropped because he didn't do it.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:13 am | Reply
      • Alan S

        Person: You commented about military commands that leave enlisted troops in civilian jails for months awaiting civilian trials. Your implication that the military does this voluntarily is mistaken. The military does not have the authority to remove military personnel from civilian jails or prisons in the U.S. (The U.S. sometimes has such authority overseas, depending on whether it's a combat zone or, if not, on the Status of Forces Agreement with the host country. In the U.S., if a civilian judge orders a military member detained in the local jail pending trial, that's where the man stays, regardless what the military would prefer.

        September 27, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
    • Francisco d'Anconia

      Um...how do you know he's guilty? There hasn't even been a trial. If proven guilty, I'd agree, but that's not the case.

      What's the matter with you? You think people should be punished without a trial? That's truly disgusting.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:24 am | Reply
      • dan

        Francisco d'Anconia change your nick, why are you so fussy about it anyway, cause he is a USA GENERAL I bet you have different standards to all rapists. Grow up.

        September 27, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
      • Francisco d'Anconia

        Hey Dan, I don't have different standards for ANYBODY. EVERYBODY is innocent until PROVEN guilty, and EVERYBODY has the right to a fail trial.

        September 27, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
      • Drone

        Do you think all people being killed by drones are charged and found guilty in a court before being executed in their homes?You know a large percentage of these happen to be women and children.

        September 27, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
      • Dave

        @Drone and all the other people who have made idiotic political statements about the drones- Francisco was referring to an american right of freedom that every US citizen shares. You have the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. You shouldn't be so quick to allow a common right to be violated. You may need to exercise that right yourself one day. One mission that the military has been given is to develop ways to protect our military members from injuries and death. One of the top stories during the Iraq war was that the US public was outraged that the US military would send our members to war with vehicles that were not armored, substandard battle gear and NBC equipment. It was the belief that we should protect our members from injury. Now the government has developed a way to protect our members by using drones but it is considered ungentlemanly because of the nature of use. US military was not the one that took the war off the battlefields. Terrorists took the war to the populated cities to promote terror and we are battling it the best way we can with remote controlled drones. War is not kind or gentlemanly. No matter how you look at it there will be loss of life and unfortunately due to the nature of war today there will be a loss of innocent life. Unfortunately drones are not the most accurate means of war but luckily they are a symbol of deterrence. One last thought, do you think the Libyan ambassador was tried and convicted before he and 3 other people people were killed. They were killed simply because they were Americans. There are people in this world that will kill you simply because you are american and we have to combat that with any means possible. Any loss of life is tragic, but I would prefer that our military members stay safe and I believe a drone is the best solution for that at this time.

        September 29, 2012 at 11:02 am |
  45. ssi

    disgusting

    September 27, 2012 at 10:54 am | Reply
  46. some guy

    To charge or accuse someone does not mean that he or she is guilty. But in the media to charge someone means that person is guilty and condemned to hell for it.

    September 27, 2012 at 10:52 am | Reply
  47. reasonablebe

    he should be at least put on administrative leave– not remain with his unit. what gives? another chance to act badly or threaten witnesses?

    September 27, 2012 at 10:49 am | Reply
    • Donna

      He was not with his unit. His unit was deployed when this incident happened. He was brought home immediately and placed with a different unit.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:37 am | Reply
  48. JAG NCO

    Given the trend in punishments for courts-martial on general officers, he'll probably get a stern talking to and be allowed to retire.

    September 27, 2012 at 10:45 am | Reply
    • reasonablebe

      i hope you are wrong. if the allegations are proven, he should be dishonorably discharged and face imprisonment.

      September 27, 2012 at 10:50 am | Reply
      • Donna

        And if allegations are not true, then what. He and his family have been embarrassed for the world to see?

        September 27, 2012 at 11:38 am |
  49. Bruce

    As a retired Air Force member I can truly say RHIP (rank has its privileges), meaning that had he been an enlisted person his butt would have been in the brig while he awaits his trail. Something is worng with this picture when you get treated differently for the same crime in the military.

    September 27, 2012 at 10:42 am | Reply
    • Hiruu

      Bull@$@#$...there are many enlisted folks who's command cover them in the behavior.

      September 27, 2012 at 10:51 am | Reply
      • Nicci. Ayala

        Yep your right been military wife 18 yrs seen it many many times and I'm on the "outside" so imagine what the soldiers actually see. The military isn't any different than any other "job or company" out there bad people,butt sucking people,good people,hard working people.......but the media does tend to want to make the military personal look like the nastiest trash there is....js

        September 27, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • SEMPERFI1775

      You are totally correct in saying RHIP, however, Since he is an officer you know damn near takes an act of congress to demote him. Their contracts are different and there are distinct parts of the UCMJ for officers and for enlisted. He will get the conduct unbecoming, forced to retire and live happily ever after. Sad but true bro.

      September 27, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Reply
  50. realy

    It will be like most officer cases. It will be swept under the rug, he'll be forced to retire and collect his 6 thousand dollar a month retirement, while all the enlisted people he stepped on, or got injured, or killed following his orders have to fight for what little money they can get from the government to survive while he'll be smiling and eating well.

    September 27, 2012 at 10:42 am | Reply
  51. lindaluttrell

    If the allegations are true, what happened to "Lead by Example"? Hope we get the follow-up...one way or the other.

    September 27, 2012 at 10:35 am | Reply
    • derp

      Based on the current military s e x assault statistics it appears that he IS leading by example.

      September 27, 2012 at 10:58 am | Reply
  52. felix el gato

    Life in prison.

    September 27, 2012 at 10:30 am | Reply
  53. tgm

    As the US has approved the unnatural phenomenon of "gay" marriage, should the General have firstly offered to marry his victim? In that scenario the "bottom line" would be that the issue would be nothing more than a 'marital spat' and he could have quite happily stayed militarily in the rear

    September 27, 2012 at 10:26 am | Reply
    • Chris S.

      You are an idiot. What does gay marriage have to do with anything? Shut up and go back into your cave. Moron.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:22 am | Reply
      • tgm

        Er,, well Chris S,,,,,,,"Gay" marriage is all abaout legitimising sodomy between males. That is what the General has been accused of, right?

        September 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
      • slrman

        @tgm Tell me, exactly how does gay marriage harm anyone? They only answers I have ever heard to that all come down to, "It's an abomination!" or in other words, "It offends me so I want it banned for everyone!"

        FYI, sodomy does not mean only anal intercourse, which can be a M-F act too, but can also be defined as anything such as oral intercourse that does not involve the possibility of procreation. It's another religious rule the theists insist upon forcing on everyone.

        Furthermore, in most states, statutes against sodomy have either been struck down by court rulings or have been unenforced for s long that only the most obtuse of prosecutors would even attempt to bring those charges against anyone.

        September 27, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Ekaterina Kaverina

      Marriage is holy matrimony blessed by a priest. Anything else is a civil union. Last I heard, the Reformation movement did away with the apostolic succession and the Protestant organizations have no priests, only lay preachers. So any objections against gay marriage are just hot air.

      September 27, 2012 at 11:38 am | Reply
      • Alan S

        Ekaterina: What a fascinating comment. Apart from the unusual nature of a reference to apostolic succession or the lack therof, are you contending that Protestant ministers don't have the authority to conduct "real" marriages?

        September 27, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
      • tgm

        So you feel it is a bummer that he has been brought to face any charges? I feel that despite a rump of support for his allleged unnatural practices, a good head of military justice shall prevail.

        September 27, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • Ryan

      An Army brigadier general has been charged with forcible sodomy and having inappropriate relationships with several female subordinates, two U.S. defense officials said Wednesday.
      He's also been charged with multiple counts of adultery.

      September 28, 2012 at 1:36 am | Reply
      • Ryan

        It does seem ridiculous that you have to check other news sources for details on nearly every CNN story...

        September 28, 2012 at 1:37 am |
  54. 18C

    If the allegations are true. I hope gets punished to the fullest extent of UCMJ. I am sure that General has ruined many careers. He will get a taste of his own medicine!

    September 27, 2012 at 10:14 am | Reply
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