September 20th, 2012
07:22 PM ET

U.S. officials appear less certain of events ahead of Libya attack

By Suzanne Kelly and Pam Benson

U.S. officials appear less certain about what happened in Benghazi, Libya, just before the attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans last week.

"We certainly acknowledge contradictory information about whether there was a protest prior to the attack," a U.S. official told CNN on Thursday. "We're continuing to collect information and evaluate exactly what the circumstances were prior to the attack."

U.S. officials have been saying they believe, based on the intelligence, that the attack grew out of a spontaneous protest over a trailer for an anti-Muslim film that was circulating on the Internet, and there is no indication it was a planned attack. It is a contention that critics like Republican Sen. John McCain have said is hard to believe true given the extensive attack and the amount of weaponry involved.

Susan Rice, the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, delivered the administration's assessment on a number of Sunday talk shows.

On CBS' "Face the Nation," Rice said, "Soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are, unfortunately, readily now available in Libya post- revolution. And that it spun from there into something much, much more violent."

But conflicting information about whether there really was a protest ahead of the attack calls into question whether the attack was planned.

National Counterterrorism Center Director Matthew Olsen told a Senate committee on Wednesday that he believed the attack fit the definition of a terrorist attack. Although he maintained the evidence so far indicated the attack was not planned, he was careful in describing just what officials knew about how it transpired and who was involved.

"The best information we have now, the facts we have now indicate this was an opportunistic attack on our embassy. The attack began and evolved and escalated over several hours," said Olsen. "It appears that individuals who were certainly well armed, seized on the opportunity that was presented as the events unfolded that evening into the morning hours of September 12th."

But both Olsen and White House Press Secretary Jay Carney added a new characterization to their account. Olsen said there was nothing specific indicating "significant advanced planning" and Carney on Thursday said there was no information to suggest "a significantly preplanned attack."

"It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack," Carney added.

A U.S. intelligence official on Thursday also seemed more cautious.

"Simply put, while everything is still under investigation, the available information suggests the protests in Cairo inspired what the attackers decided to do later that night in Benghazi," the official said. "Right now, this points to a plan that was hatched opportunistically that day. Of course, if credible new information suggests otherwise, the investigation will pursue those leads."

The source also told CNN that "the available information suggests a group of people gathered sometime before ten o'clock that night outside of the consulate. The mixture of the people involved, and who took part in the attack, is certainly going to be part of the investigation."

CNN's Arwa Damon, who has been in Benghazi this week, reports that on the night of September 11, a group of armed individuals showed up outside the consulate around 9:30 and a firefight had broken out within 30 minutes.

On Thursday, Libya's Prime Minister Mustafa Abushagur told Damon that eight people who are believed to be involved in carrying out the attack are now detained in Libya.

But he also said the evidence so far shows the attack was planned. Approximately 30 to 50 people took part and it was clearly organized, said the prime minister, but he added there was no one specific group behind the attack.

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  1. Mui

    it better. Thank you for your eluqoent and accurate commentary.I agree: Obama is a moderate Republican; he is not a Progressive Democrat. So it's time to vote him out of office, even voting for a Republican since the difference between Obama and Romney would not be great: both had the same health care plan, which sucks; both will implement tax breaks for the super rich and corporations; and both will not create any jobs.In fact, Romney may not be as much of a hawk as Obama: Obama has increased our military presence abroad.It's time for all Progressives to send a protest vote to the DNC. If it gives us Republican look-alike candidates, we will vote Republican. We do not need two Republican parties in this country, the only difference being that the Democratic version is just a tad more liberal on its social issues, but still represents Wall Street, the super rich, and the multinational corporations.

    October 10, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Reply
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    September 23, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Reply
  3. krm1007 ©™

    Few days back, there was an interesting article on Pakistan "The bubble of Islamic Republic of Pakistan has burst in our faces". It made me to do more research on the subject and on grave political conditions in Pakistan, and possibility of another military coup. We here in the United States, continue to monitor the political and cultural turmoil in Pakistan and are very concerned with the continued state of deterioration, and it's nuclear stockpile. At this point, we restate our view that Islamic Republic of Pakistan is in a precarious situation and that a geo-political implosion is imminent (if not already in process) and the need of the hour. As you will recall, along the Afghan/Pak borders, Pakistan has an unmanageable large fundamentalist Taliban population mired in poverty and we are spinning our wheels trying to prop it up. Additionally, it is also too big of a geographical units of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) for Pakistani weak government to govern. In 2001 the Pakistani military entered the FATA for the first time in history, and returned home with heavy casualties. We Americans now need to focus on our own people and cannot afford to handout more financial and technological aid to Pakistan. We believe that this de-fragmentation of Pakistan along 13 FATA agencies (see the list below) will unleash boundless opportunities and uber economic demand that will be beneficial to US and our allies in extracting rare earth minerals along Afghan/Pak borders, and help pull ourselves out of current recessionary trends. Knowing presence of hard core islamic fundamentalists, war lords, drug cartels, and Russians and Chinese involvement, in the region, We pray for the events to unfold peacefully and in a harmonious manner for the poverty stricken people of Pakistan and its global future economic super power neighbors China and India. For the sake of long lasting peace and to break the cycle of violence in Pakistan, a potential solution for out of control militancy in Pakistan is to break down the Pakistan along the FATA agencies, like creation of Bangladesh in 1972:

    Bajaur Agency
    Mohmand Agency
    Khyber Agency
    Frontier Region Peshawar
    Frontier Region Kohat
    Orakzai Agency
    Kurram Agency
    Frontier Region Bannu
    North Waziristan Agency
    Frontier Region Lakki Marwat
    Frontier Region Tank
    South Waziristan Agency
    Frontier Region Dera Ismail Khan

    My prayer and good wishes are with militancy infested Islamic Republic of Pakistan!!!

    September 23, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Reply
  4. J. James Mcgregor

    Tragically, in India people are dying of hunger. Why are low caste poor Hindus prohibited from eating beef? People stop their cars, and sit for hours waiting for a cow to clear the roadway, thinking it to be sacred. In India cow meat is cheaper than other available meats. Instead of these Brahmins taking care of the low caste peoples of India, they are doing their best to save their "holy" cows instead. This is evil. According to Valmith's Ramayana, God Rama "ATE" meat. So then "why" have these Brahmins given up beef-eating? It's hypocrisy within their own religion.

    September 23, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Reply
  5. RRK

    I support CNN in releasing Ambassador Stevens Journal. What really bothers me is that Hillary and the Obama administration want to limit free speech. Throughout the Libyan crisis the administration has blamed the anti Muslim movie and ignored other credible reports.
    What is amazing is that by having Stevens personal journal the administration is still trying to blame the movie. At this point it is not what they are hiding because the truth is out, yet they are still in denial. This situation erodes our trust in our current government. Hillary is mad because she got caught and yet our Teflon president moves on.

    September 23, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Reply
  6. Evac Marine

    Just after 9:35pm local time, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens was overcome by smoke and died, trapped alone inside the burning villa after all the other Americans withdrew. Another diplomat, Sean Smith, and two U.S. security men were also killed that night.

    At the time this incident occurred was very late at night. Far past business hours, when the Consulate should have been closed and not occupied, especially if it was a non-fortified facility.

    * The biggest problem was they were living at the Consulate, which is a solid violation of USG security standards.

    USG employees can not work and live in the same location, unless it is new construction, that meets new fortification construction standards like the Embassy's in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. That construction must also be completed and managed by a vetted American Construction Company.

    It's a simple rule which obviously wasn't being followed. One can not receive a waiver for this requirement either.

    It's in stone, no living and working in the same location, unless it is a fortified facility, which this location obviously was not.

    Sad this could have been avoided, if people were following the rules.

    What should have happened; the victims would have been living at a separate location, in a hotel or in houses away from the Consulate and this building would have burned to the ground and no one would have been injured or died.

    September 23, 2012 at 4:12 am | Reply
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    September 22, 2012 at 9:41 pm | Reply
  8. Skorpio

    Long term solution against Islamic violence & irrationality is a MASSIVE CONVERSION OF MUSLIMS TO CHRISTIANITY, preferably to any Middle Eastern Christian Church which share the same language, culture and traditions as Muslims but NOT their SATANIC Islamic faith.

    September 22, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Reply
    • Syed

      I would not discuss with you, your intellectual level as reflected in post tell it is not worth it. It is just like me judging you Christian on the basis of your pedofile priests and adulterous minister, which would be rather showing insentivity. You are no better than those radicals that kill innocent victims. Let us just disagree and leave it at that.

      September 22, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Reply
  9. Michael

    I think it is time that Mr. Obama take his own advice....he said it is impossible to change Washington from the inside and I agree......therefore GET OUT OF WASHINGTON BARRY!

    September 21, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Reply
  10. Frank

    Mr. prez, please, please resign. PLEASE!!

    Seriously, I personally and willingly redistribute some of my wealth (all $1,500 of it) to by you a ONE WAY plane ticket to be with your Muslim Brothers!

    Then you can apologize for America and kiss these Muslims butts all you want. At least, we Americans will be able to respect you because we will finally be able to see WHERE YOU STAND ON THE ISSUES and WHO you STAND WITH!!

    September 21, 2012 at 8:12 pm | Reply
  11. Frank

    OK, Mr. prez, why do you insist on lying to us!!

    September 21, 2012 at 8:02 pm | Reply
  12. Michael

    How long will Americans tolerate and bend over for this administration in the light of so many blatant lies?

    September 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Reply
  13. Jake

    You should be proud of Obama. He made a decision that no one wanted to make, based on his humanity, just like Lincoln.

    September 21, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Reply
    • Frank

      Proud of a LIAR...only a blue blooded liberal "demon-crap" would say such a thing.

      September 21, 2012 at 8:03 pm | Reply
  14. fuscator

    Weasel wording and u-turns – the White House has not made up its mind whether to blame whom it should. What ensues is ludicrous and shameful. Call it like it is. Do it.

    September 21, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Reply
  15. WYATT

    Uh...ya' think Barack? You think that a lightning strike with automatic weapons (technically 'small arms" and not 'heavy weapons'...really, experts...learn the terminlolgy for the subject you're supposed to be an expert on) and RPG's by a highly-trained team of terrorists against an American high-profile, soft-target on the anniversary of that cowardly and shamefull 911 attack might not have been the result of a spontaneous demonstration??? think? Really? You figured that out in only a week? WOW...not that's 'change', baby! You am smart!!!

    September 21, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Reply
  16. Riby Santo

    How come this article does not mention that the US government was warned days in advance of the attack in Libya? And how come CNN is not asking the question to the white house as to why with these warnings was security not beefed up at our embasies and consulets around the world...especially on 9/11? Come on CNN, get this info for us.....

    September 21, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Reply
    • John

      For the same reason pearl harbor wasn't more protected before America entered WW2, for the same reason you all entered vietnam, for the same reason you went to war in iraq – so the government can spread more terror and frighten more americans into thinking you need to spend more on defense than education and health and so that in the end Mr. Rockerfeellow can have every person in the US with a microchip implanted into their hand. That's why – watch now as the spending on embassies protection and the addition of troops to countries around the world expands, why because you've got nothing to do with your troops now.

      September 21, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Reply
  17. UnFred

    Fox News is like the Barney & Friends show.

    September 21, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Reply
    • duane

      very insightful....what's your point? we are on CNN dummy.

      September 21, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Reply
      • UnFred

        Oh the point?, I figured you wouldn't get it. Let me explain. People who watch fox news are idiots.

        September 21, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
    • duane

      very insightful....what's your point?

      September 21, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Reply
    • Frank

      He cannot form a point...need a brain to do that!

      September 21, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Reply
  18. duane

    the worst example of Obama's refusal to acknowledge that we still very much at war with terror is the fact that the Obama administration STILL calls the Ft.Hood shootings "work place violence". that my friends is stupid and naive.

    September 21, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Reply
    • Crash McCabe

      This is what I think of Egypt calling to hamper our 1st Amendment. Help me spread this around. It has been reposted in 20 different countries:

      September 21, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Reply
    • duane

      dude, that's funny as hell..........

      September 21, 2012 at 4:06 pm | Reply
    • CON servative disease

      Islamic soldier doesnt want to deploy to middle east and have to kill
      other Islamist's.
      Soldier flips out and shoots fellow soldiers.
      Its not a terrorist attack, but a mental problem.
      Those of you out to get Obama
      will label it any way you want.
      Just as long as you can blame Obama for it.

      I lost my car keys yesterday, i just know Obama is behind it.

      September 21, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Reply
      • duane

        yeah, the Islamic cleric that spoke to him dally and told him to do it has nothing to do with it....right? that's why we killed the guy in Yemen with a drone strike, he was also yelling "god is great" in Arabic......understand what you are talking about before you post and look like a dummy....oh wait...too late.

        September 21, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
      • Richard Stroker

        And you were probably blaming Bush for everything under the sun. Get off your high horse.

        September 21, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
      • Frank

        NO man, you would rather kiss his ***** than admit Mr. prez was WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        September 21, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
      • Frank

        Mr. prez, please resign. PLEASE!! I personally will redistribute some of my wealth (all $1,500 of it) to by you a ONE WAY plane ticket to be with your Muslim Brothers! Then you can apologize for America and kiss their butts all you want and we will at least be able to respect you when we are able to see WHERE YOU FINALLY STAND ON THE ISSUES!!

        September 21, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • Jenna

      It's Obama's White House lying about what happened because they don't want the public to know that they ignored the warnings and left the embassy unguarded except for three or four marines.

      September 21, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Reply
  19. duane

    Obama is so worried about the election that he was trying to lie about all this as just part of the movie outrage when it has nothing to do with that.....what kind of a dummy prez does not beef up security at our embassies around the world on the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks? Obama the amateur.....

    September 21, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Reply
    • streetdude66

      Um. to answer your question Dubya. He did it on Sept 11th 2001. Just sayin

      September 21, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Reply
      • Zilan

        I know where you are coming from on the Grandpa stuff. In fact, I have tried extlacy that not with Grandpa, but with very close friends and family. We need for our children to be able to look up to the adults in their lives, and if they express unchecked bigotry, this is not possible. Children are extremely perceptive but also generally trusting.If we shrug off bigotry or racist comments because we know we cannot change the person who expresses them, then we are sending a message to our children as well. When discussing this with one close friend, I was told directly that I would need to ignore the racism or cease to be friends.I think we need to do this in reverse. Either cease the racism, or cease to be friends. Maybe that's going to far for some, but the middle ground stuff has not worked out for me.

        October 12, 2012 at 10:57 pm |
    • duane

      r u thick? Obama did nothing this past sept 11th to beef up security....nothing. what r u talking about????

      September 21, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Reply
      • kelly

        Another lie from Susan Rice. The two former SEAL's were NOT there for security to the Ambassador, they were over there for another government department. Blatant lies from all over Washington, but scarily enough straight from the president.

        September 21, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
    • kendrick1

      As narcisstic as Obama is he just can't come to terms that his muslim brothers don't like him! He still hangs onto the video theory!

      September 21, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Reply
      • UnFred

        Lets face it, a fart could set those people off.

        September 21, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • a slozomby

      considering the embassies were supposed to be evacuated and its the host nations responsibility to provide protection. i'm not sure what exactly you wanted him to do.

      September 21, 2012 at 3:55 pm | Reply
      • duane

        be a leader and make some proactive decisions, so you are saying he ordered everyone out of all embassies? if Obama did that they would not have been there, that never happened but nice try.....instead he floundered all week trying to do damage control to his re-election bid instead of being honest with the American people....but you libs don’t care what he pulls, you all will support him even if he broke the law cause he's your guy and you all can’t see past that.....not for the good of the country or anything....sad.

        September 21, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • joe

      Another 9/11 attack on Americans and Obama wants to sweep it under the rug because it's an election year. This is making me ill.

      September 21, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Reply
  20. Far smarter than you

    Why is CNN so quick to parrot and buy the lies of this administration?
    Seriously, CNN is a disgrace to the 1st Amendment.

    September 21, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Reply
  21. Far smarter than you

    I love that CNN is now quick to announce the administration's claims that security was beefed up (it was not) but was no match for the attackers. Well clearly it was no match, because it was never enhanced, Mr. President. CNN is disgusting in their blind parroting of anything the administration claims. Utterly shameful.

    September 21, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Reply
  22. NotALemming

    So Obama LIED about this for the last 2 weeks, to the press and the public, but the story is buried halfway down CNN's website. You have to look past the front page platered with Romney's tax return stories to even find this one....

    September 21, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Reply
    • NS Bingo

      Yup, that's right. Its like CNN, MSNBC and the majors are trying their best to suppress and twist the news to protect the glaring obvious. Again, this is the worst terrorist attack against us since 9/11. Where is the outcry? Where are the questions about security at our embassies, or lack of? The editors of PRAVDA would be proud of you Wolf, Candy, Anderson, and the rest of you so-called journalists.

      September 21, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Reply
  23. Olivia

    Smarter than you,
    Last I knew we all had the right to believe what we wanted. Even though you say God myth – if you don't like it go live in a communist country!

    September 21, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Reply
    • Far smarter than you

      Sweetheart, you're completely outclassed here in terms of intellect. You probably want to just calm down and let the folks who know a little about politics, etc. talk, ok? Thanks, hun.

      September 21, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Reply
  24. Phil

    If Obama was so incomplete and incompetent with the economy and foreign policy he inhereted from Bush, wait till he see the one waiting for him if he is re-elected. I wonder who he will blame for that?

    September 21, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Reply
  25. thunderbolt

    Well, it looks like most people agree on here. I bet CNN will close comments soon. Then they will start deleting and moving comments around so it makes Obama look better....................

    September 21, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Reply
    • Mike in NYC

      I'm shocked that CNN has let the comment level get over 600+!!! I figured they would have closed comments LONG before this! lol

      September 21, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Reply
    • CeltinWood

      You mean sort of like the MSNBC effect? I get it......

      September 21, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Reply
  26. Slappy_McGiggles

    This is what happens when you cut the head off a snake. The head dies. but the body thrashes around uncontrollably.
    (Gaddafi is dead and the people are out of control for those of you didn't get the metaphor)

    September 21, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Reply
  27. paul

    Is EVERYTHING STILL Bush's fault ??

    September 21, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Reply
    • Mike in NYC

      Yep .... and it will be still for the next four years – if Obama gets re-elected.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Reply
    • ObjectiveGuy

      Can you just IMAGINE the mess Obama will inherit this time if he gets re-elected?

      September 21, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Reply
      • Viktoria

        Thanks for the interest Jason. Next year if you're andtneitg the UofC you're definitely welcome to come join our squad. Season starts the first week of classes every Fall semester.

        October 10, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • UnFred


      September 21, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Reply
  28. josh rogen

    all the president does is lie and all the media does is believe

    September 21, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Reply
    • Mike in NYC

      I don't think the media believes ..... they just spread his lies for him.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Reply
    • CeltinWood

      Add that to a little fairy dust and a "happil ever after" and you have the essentials of yet another good fairy tale.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Reply
  29. lstanton

    Serioulsy, Obama finally figured out what every 5 year old could tell the day it happened. Where is Obama's outrage (and Hillary's) over the death of the Americans? Stop apologizing. Where is the same condemnation over insults to Christians over the publications that Jesus supposedly had a wife?? Utter hypocrits, and they think all American's will buy their idiot comparison to the "fall of the Berlin Wall"?? Obama's plan is to dismantle America, one step at a time.

    September 21, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Reply
    • Mike in NYC

      Fall of the Berlin Wall? When did that comparison happen??????

      September 21, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Reply
    • ObjectiveGuy

      If this had happened under the Bush administration, the media would be passing out nooses for a public lynching. Obama knew that our embassy would be attacked, didn't even try to beef up security, and allowed our ambassador and staffers to be executed, and our embassy burned down. To me, that appears to be TREASON, and an impeachable offense!!!

      Meanwhile, Obama and Hillary spend all their time blaming the video, and how wrong and "disgusting" it was to insult Islam, while directing a relatively mild rebuke to the terrorists who killed our ambassador! What is WRONG with this picture??? Obama is clearly at fault, and the lapdog media is trying to deflect the blame, so that it does not reflect badly on Obama. Again, this is treasonous.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Reply
  30. RnadyMarshCT

    Imagine what would happen if Americans took to the streets and chanted "Death to Libya, Death to Pakistan, Death to Muslims". Just take a second and imagine that, even though it would never happen. Why wouldn't that happen? This is rhetorical, I want you to ask yourselves those questions. If people are to be fair and balanced, these questions must also have a place in the spotlight.

    September 21, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Reply
    • Mike in NYC

      I'm ready ..... where does the march start??? lol

      September 21, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Reply
    • DickPerry

      LOL. Americans are to lazy for that.. They chant those things in forums like this on the net.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Reply
    • UnFred

      All I need is the "football". We can rename north africa radioactive land.

      September 21, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Reply
  31. Olivia

    It is easier to make assessments in your own backyard (911) than in another country. That's a no brainier that all the correct information has not been totally released from the Libya attack.

    September 21, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Reply
    • Mike in NYC

      The president of Libya said on day one that it was a terrorist attack that had been pre-planned for 9/11. Sooooo is he lying????

      September 21, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Reply
    • thunderbolt

      People have been giving you guys the facts for over four years. You should have read his books, looked up his speeches, and seen how he voted. He had a three day notice on this attack and did absolutely nothing because he is working on his campaign. Until this week he hadn't even met with his security council And until it hit the news hadn't met with his job council in over 250 days. Yeah he is really worried about jobs, and our security huh. Do some research or get engaged in looking instead of defending someone when you know nothing about the subject.....

      September 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Reply
    • Far smarter than you

      Please stop defending this abject failure. It can only make you look foolish, sweetheart. It was obvious within a day that it was a terrorist hit, regardless of how far in advance it had been planned.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Reply
    • flickerman

      I don't like it when our government lies to us.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Reply
      • ObjectiveGuy

        Then apparently you have not been enjoying the last four years too much. Neither have most Americans. Our economy is stuck in reverse, our unemployment rate has never been higher for this long, and we now have trillion$ more in debt. Further, the world hates us now more than ever, and has even LESS respect, since Obama went on his world apology tour, bowing and scraping to Muslim kings. This past four years has been an absolute TRAVESTY on so many levels. People need to wake the hell up and not re-elect Obama.

        September 21, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
  32. thunderbolt

    The liberal media has their work cut out for them on this one. Not only do they have to try and defend Obama on not knowing the details of the attack. They have to try and cover up the fact that he didn't have highten security at the embassy in fear of attack on 9/11. He also has to defend why he didn't have highten security after getting a three day notice that it was going to happen.Then using commercials to try and program the muslums on why they attacked it in the first place. But he'll give a speech standing beside bouncy bouncy and the liberals will all swoon as usual. How stupid can people be? Just watch and see.................

    September 21, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Reply
    • juny1958

      cant argue with a thing you said.....i dont know what it will take for the pres. supporters to realize just how incompetent he really cool on Letterman, posed and relaxed.....cowardly everywhere else......since 9/11 there have been no attacks on American property.....guess we cant say that anymnore......face it libs – it IS potus fault

      September 21, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Reply
      • Mike in NYC

        NO NO NO ...... NOTHING is Obama's fault ..... la la la la la la ..... you're talking and i'm not listening ......... :-o (whistling)

        September 21, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
  33. Olivia

    It frustrating to see posts that claim President Obama is being deceitful. I guess some in the public discovered the truth and now we are all informed. Right? I suppose Nixon was not being deceitful on Watergate: he was just protecting the interests of the country!

    September 21, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Reply
    • CeltinWood

      If Obama was less interested in being culturally and politically correct with regard to the radicals that would want to kill the remaining non-muslim world, then he WOULD be direct and honest with his advisors assessments. Alas, this is not in his character..........

      September 21, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Reply
    • Far smarter than you

      He's not a liar. He's just incompetent, dear.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Reply
      • Scott

        Uh, no. Actually he IS a liar!

        September 21, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • juny1958

      no, you are was easier for most conservatives to see the attack for what it was, not blame it on a video, not to mention the fact that it happened on 9/11-–what did you not see, what did potus not see? if he didnt see it, he shouldnt be pres. – if he did see it he is protecting himself for poliltica reason, and thus is not fit to put the country first! either way,. he should not be in the white house – it is really just that simple

      September 21, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Reply
      • Mike in NYC

        Now you're just talking gibberish, Stop using your big fancy words!

        September 21, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
  34. Joe User

    People still supporting Obama at this point are the same as those who supported Bush no matter what. Please wake up!!

    September 21, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Reply
    • Olivia

      That is not an accurate statement! I support the president. I did not support Bush on his 2nd term. Especially after WMD were never discovered! Not good to generalize.

      September 21, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Reply
      • Mike in NYC

        The problem with the WMDs is that we know what Saddam had – because WE sold them to him!!!! And then they weren't there when we invaded. However ... Haaretz reports that the WMDs were likely transported there just before the attacks began in Iraq. ...... haaretz.c0m/print-edition/news/what-is-assad-hiding-in-his-backyard-1.292935

        September 21, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • UnFred

      Not really. It's just the other side of the fence. The Truth is the last 5 or 6 presidents have been lousy.

      September 21, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Reply
  35. Far smarter than you

    It took America at most a few hours to detemine that 9/11/01 was a terrorist incident. Somehow it takes this administration over a week to put two and two together, despite the obvious red flag of the attack taking place on the anniversary of the Towers attacks.

    September 21, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Reply
    • Mike in NYC

      I'm shocked that the tearing down (and burning) of the American flag and replacing it with a black flag associated with al qaeda didn't give them a clue.

      September 21, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Reply
      • CeltinWood

        Subtle hints are so hard to notice! (smirk)

        September 21, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Builda Bridge and GetOver Yourself

      Lets see, there were years of reports egnored by several Presidents telling how a plot like 911 would be carried out. Oh yeah we had live real intel for several hrs that this was a terrorist act...TV FOOTAGE. The embassy attack could have just been more of the same earned hatred this country has experienced in the past in the middle east. Get educated so you may truely be "FAR Smarter than You are now

      September 21, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Reply
    • Pnutbutter

      You folks need to quit limiting your data/news from one source. Fox News has covered many more details on what they knew and when! CNN needs to put it out there and let the people decide. PLEASE

      September 21, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Reply
      • CeltinWood

        Agreed. I actually find the foreign news sources far less bias......... Check them out from time to time too....

        September 21, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
      • Mike in NYC

        I find the BEST source for this type of information to be the BBC

        September 21, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
      • kelly

        I completely agree. Fox immediately shared the news and facts they got, which made it so clear that all the other networks are in cahoots with the government on a cover up full of lies. Obamaganda has become a very dangerous and scary thing.

        September 21, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • BO's motto

      When something is so makes me oblivious.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Reply
    • UnFred

      So what's your excuse for the administration that allowed 9 11 to happen in the first place considering our intelligence and that of the british? If you don't like the president or the administration that's one thing. But there's plenty of incompetence to go around in washington.

      September 21, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Reply
  36. standtall

    The president obviously cares more about his campaign than America.

    September 21, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Reply
  37. Olivia

    Well said! I use to be a registered Republican. Most of my church friends convinced me that GWB was a good Christian! Then I really started reading about the powers of the presidency and realized that Obama that as much as he be against certain moral conduct eg, abortion he alone cannot overturn Row vs Wade. No previous president has been able to.

    The president is attacked with so much hate. Ok fine, tell us about the policies you don't agree with. Don't attack his skin. His faith. Really? Give us some substance.

    September 21, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Reply
    • Far smarter than you

      Please leave the silly God-myth nonsense out of this. This is about National Security and military intelligence, dear.

      September 21, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Reply
      • CeltinWood

        In that statement lies the problem. For the world and the radicals, there is only the "beleivers" and "non-beleivers" and the world remains divided as such. To propose that your so called "God myth" should not be addressed is to dismiss the very heart of the matter that confronts our national security and very survival. Your "myth" is another man's mission, dictate, creed. It is also your defender's beleif systems should they be serving and be of a specific faith/belief. Don't cut off you nose despite your smug face!

        September 21, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
      • kendrick1

        Are you now the one who gets to decide what everyone is allowed to say? It's always been a puzzle to me as to how those who believe there is no God will spend so much time and effort villifying something they themselves believe doesn't exist! One wonders about their credibility!

        September 21, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
      • syed abdul

        Among Christians, Hindus, Muslims and many other faiths there are those who are barbarians. Personally I believe the mark the Ideals and lofty precepts of any religions goes out the window when fanaticism sets in. Muslims are have been represented by the radical few who think that they have to kill innocent people because of the action of one individual. I know that their was a period when Christians were much the same way declaring crusades in the name of God. Lets face it do we really think that is what Christianity is all about. Some one has said you could not get any better then what concept of the character of the God you serve.

        September 21, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
    • Builda Bridge and GetOver Yourself

      How the truth will cause the uninformed to produce statements lacking substance...JOEuser has several ill informed comments

      September 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Reply
    • sara

      This is NOT about someone's skin. This is about Obama's lies, deception, incompetence, and absence as a president. A failure. Al Qaeda killed 4 Americans, raped, tortured, and dragged the Ambassador through the streets on 9/11. He had no security, he was unarmed, the White House had 3 days warning. Everyone knew it was a terrorist attack yet Obama still will not say it himself, though the White House finally admitted it. Libyan president knew and has been saying it for over a week.

      Meanwhile there are still 23 million people looking for work, a record 46 million on food stamps, $16 trillion in national debt, $4 trillion in deficits, and household incomes have fallen $4,000. What does Obama plan to do about this, WE DON'T KNOW. Partying with celebs will make none of this or the terrorists just go away.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Reply
      • CeltinWood

        lets make an even swap for Collin Powell.....then everyone will be happy and our national security will return to normal status/readiness........

        September 21, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
      • syed abdul

        So you really think Romney will do a better job, after so many times he has goofed in his statement. You put your think these politicians are trustworthy in both sides of the isle, you got to be naive.

        September 21, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
  38. Far smarter than you

    Another Obama Failure of Leadership.

    September 21, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Reply
  39. donny

    i would get out dont worry bout them any more ..let them kill each other off people like that dont want fredom any way just a waste of money any way spend it here in or country

    September 21, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Reply
  40. unblvble

    FINALLY – after ~7 days Obama administration agreed that it was a terroist attack – hmmmm but is obama still confused?? totally clueless adminstration??

    September 21, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Reply
    • Mike in NYC

      Actually it was more like 10 days ... not seven!

      September 21, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Reply
  41. dscon

    'It’s an Inconvenient Thing to Have to Be President When You Really

    Are Best at Running for Office’

    Obama now has effectively allowed a terrorist attack and murders on

    US soil on the anniversary of 9/11.
    Obama/MSM=inept liars!

    September 21, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Reply
    • UnFred

      "Obama now has effectively allowed a terrorist attack and murders on
      US soil on the anniversary of 9/11."

      Uhh yeah.. who was president when 911 happened, I forget?

      September 21, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Reply
  42. Joe User

    Has this President been doing what he's supposed to be doing and what he's being paid for? He's asleep at the wheel and all he does is campaign. People still supporting Obama at this point are the same as those who supported Bush no matter what. Please wake up!!

    September 21, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Reply
  43. Fubarack Obamadinejad

    I've never seen any politician lie as much as Obama, well maybe the former Iraqi information minister Baghdad Bob. Alan Grayson is right up there too.

    September 21, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Reply
    • Mike in NYC

      I dunno .... it was before i was born, but I understand that Nixon was pretty good at spinning a lie.

      September 21, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Reply
    • Pnutbutter


      September 21, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Reply
    • Builda Bridge and GetOver Yourself

      I can, Bush Jrn, WMD's ring a bell. Cheney WMD's ring a bell. Rumsfeld WMD's ring a bell. the list long.

      September 21, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Reply
    • UnFred

      Yeah I recall some words in the recent past myself. "Read My Lips" and "Weapons Of MASS Destruction"

      September 21, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Reply
  44. Louis

    CNN says they are "balanced" but you can really see how poor of a job they are doing with what is happening in the Middle East. They spent a great deal of time bashing Romney over his statements about what happened in Libya but they have not done any investigative reporting. There is an entire article in the Wall Street Journal today but still nothing from CNN regarding what happened in the Middle East. Like were was the security. That there was a previous attack in June. What happened to the British in Libya. Our lack of support for Mubarak and the Egyptian military. A complete understanding of what happened and what is continuing to happen in the Middle East. No wonder CNN has dropped below MSNBC and Fox. What a shame.

    September 21, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Reply
  45. Pat

    Obama has intentionally mislead the american people to try and protect his image. He is a liar who will do anything to get re-elected.

    September 21, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Reply
    • Congo


      Independents in Florida, Ohio, and Virginia. We are counting on you. Depending on you. Pleading with you. Vote.

      Protest by Voting for a new administration.

      September 21, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Reply
    • UnFred

      Don't cry you didn't want a mormon for president anyway. Your kids would be singing hyms to Joseph Smith in school.

      September 21, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Reply
  46. Jim

    It is shameful that the President of the United States would purposely deceive the American people into believing that the attacks were a symbol of protest of a stupid video. B.S. man – it is all an excuse to release harbored feelings all along. Just like the Rodney King cop beating video and the justice system's bad handling of the situation, people with harbored ill-feelings for society will use it as an excuse to act out violently and create gang mentality – Obama certainly knows this, but tried to spin this whole thing so that he would not offend the Muslim population in the U.S. – for votes...shame on him! Not only that, but he failed in his economic policies – it's time for him to join the ranks of the unemployed. He won't hurt financially – only his feelings and pride will hurt for awhile. He needs to take his act elsewhere.

    September 21, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Reply
  47. Reload

    Well, CNN sure gave this story prominance. Wow. Problem is, the white house and the President are still not getting their stories straight.

    September 21, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Reply
    • TheTruth

      How many versions have they released now? And why did it take Obama 18 hours to send help? Why didn't he leave his rally immediately to deal with this?

      September 21, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Reply
      • Mike in NYC

        Cause you can't run a campaign without the Benjamins!

        September 21, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
      • sara

        Another question is why did it take Obama 15 HOURS AFTER the killings to make a statement. Apparently he needed his sleep. So sad, the families and friends of the 4 killed weren't sleeping and neither were lots of other people.

        September 21, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
  48. the_dude

    Ofailure has a lot of blood on his hands....

    September 21, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Reply
    • Jmacq1

      Just so we're clear, you did of course blame George W. Bush for all the people that died in 9/11, right? Or are you just setting up yet another hypocritical double-standard like most wannabe GOP mouthpieces?

      September 21, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Reply
      • Erick

        Just so we're clear: you realize that the old "divert by blaming everything on Bush" tactic is worn out except for the leftist wanabee mouthpieces, right? At some point O is going to have to put on some big boy pants and take some responsibility.

        September 21, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
      • TheTruth

        Why didn't Obama stop everything to deal with this?

        September 21, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
      • Congo

        When 9/11 did happen, Bush took the bull by the horns and rode it the best he could. Obama is passing the bucket left and right making sure the buck doesn't stop on his lap.

        September 21, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
      • Mike in NYC

        Just so we're clear ... you do realize that Obama has been in office for 4 YEARS now and not 8 months like Bush was when 9/11 happened?

        September 21, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
      • Gulfwwind

        Seems to me that Obama appointed Clinton as Sec of Defense who is responsible for the defense of our embassies of which there was non or very little in Benghazi. Therefore the campaigner in chief is responsible. Time for Obama to accept blame for his incompetence.

        September 21, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
      • juny1958

        yo – if you are gonna blame Bush for 9/11, then you must include the messiah (BIll Clinton).....the commission that came out after 9/11 laid responsibilty for failing to act on intelligence also.....guess he was too busy diddling with cigars and interns to notice.....

        September 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
      • sara

        Bush came out yelling that we had declared war on terrorism. I don't care what party you supported but we all rallied behind Bush and believed he'd put a boot in the terrorists' azzes. All we get from Obama is some ads run in the middle east apologizing for the muslim videos, and Obama still has not said that the 4 Americans killed on 9/11 was a terrorist attack. Unbelievable. How stupid does he think we are? I'm starting to think, he thinks we are very stupid.

        September 21, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
  49. doug

    What do you people of the US not see right in front of you. This guy is a Muslim himself, and has quoted the Koran twice that I have seen. Any president that is afraid to offend the Muslim population is afraid that he won't get their vote at election time. This man is desperate to be re-elected to continue to implode America financially and really bring them to their knees. I'm not saying Romney is the end all be all, but we do know his religious beliefs and motives for running. Obama can never be trusted, because I feel that he has a secret agenda, and it isn't a good outcome for North America.

    September 21, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Reply
    • Jmacq1

      We see "what's right in front of us" quite easily. If he's a Muslim (he isn't) he's the least devout Muslim in the world, given that he drinks alcohol and constantly misses his daily prayers, not to mention not attending Mosque.

      Seriously? Quoting the Koran twice makes someone a Muslim? There's a TON of so-called Christians who love to quote the Koran all over these comments sections that don't realize they've converted!

      We also see what's right in front of us: A bunch of of closeted (or not so closeted in some cases) racists who deep down realize that if the President wasn't half-black and didn't have a "foreign" sounding name, half the allegations they love to throw at him would be utterly ridiculous.

      September 21, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Reply
      • hihohiho

        he misses his daily security briefings too...

        September 21, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
      • PMB

        Do you realize how "ignorant" you sound? That race issue? That's the most bs I have ever encountered!! When left wing, blind liberals can't defend the "chosen ones" actions, they try and call us who disagree with him "racists". What an ignorant moron you are. Open your eyes and see the man for what he really is, why don't YOU look past his color, because I know that myself and all of my conservative friends have. I. AM .SO. SICK. OF. LEFT. WING. IGNORANT. MORONS.

        September 21, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
      • Scott

        He's the least devout Muslim because he misses his daily prayers? He misses all his security briefings, too, but he's still president. What's your point?

        September 21, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • Jmacq1

      Oh, and a side note? Muslims are less than 3 percent of the American population and pretty well spread out. They're not swinging any elections anytime soon. But hey, why let any annoying facts get in the way of your blind paranoia and hatred?

      September 21, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Reply
    • Mike in NYC

      Sounding juuuuuust a little bit paranoid there dougie. I don't like Obama, I didn't vote for Obama, and I won't be voting for him again. That said ... I don't think there is anything hidden about his agenda. He's made it perfectly clear what he want's to do. He wants to play Robin Hood (on a global scale). He believes that everything the rich (people and countries) have they got unfairly and it should be taken (taxed – for a gentler word) and given to those who have been the victims of the rich. THAT my friend is what he's always been all about.

      September 21, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Reply
  50. Mike

    I would expect Obama to try to distract the public from the reality of the Libya situation; he is, after all, the "buck stops with someone else" President.

    If we are to believe him then:
    The attack is the filmakers fault.
    The lack of improvement in the unemployment rate is Bush's fault.
    The decreasing rate of growth seen the last quarters is the Republicans fault.
    Iran's steady progression to nuclear weapon is somebody's fault....but not his.
    He can't meet with the leader of one of our most important allies because David Letterman won't let him cancel.
    It is not his fault he increased the debt more that all other presidents combined...we are sure whose fault it is....but not his.
    Its is not his fault the stimulus didn't work, the republicans didn't let him spend enough money.
    It is not his fault he has missed close to 60% of his national security briefing.....he had to meet with Pimp with a Limp".

    What I find troubling is how CNN consistently pretends these things aren't important. It is clear that the adminstration was more interested in spinning the Libya situation to pretend it was this film. They have boldly and intentionally been lying to the public and CNN states that they have reassessed the situation.

    Wolf, John, Fareed.... I know idealogically you favor Obama, but have you no pride?

    September 21, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Reply
    • NS Bingo

      How about ethics.

      September 21, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Reply
    • Jmacq1

      You've spread another of the blatant lies that Republicans LOVE to toss out here:

      Obama has NOT "increased the debt more than any other President in history." He has added to the debt, but in terms of the amount he has added, George W. Bush has him beat with almost twice as much, dollar-wise, and the hallowed Ronald Reagan has just about EVERYONE beat in terms of percentages, almost tripling the national debt during his eight years in office.

      Were you on these boards calling for Kerry's election in 2004 after Bush had spent a couple years fighting two wars entirely with borrowed money? Somehow I doubt it....

      September 21, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Reply
      • TheTruth

        After more than 225 years, out debt was $10 trillion. After 4 years of Obama, it's at $16 trillion and rising daily.

        September 21, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
      • Mike in NYC

        Ahhh Jmacq ... as Mark Twain once said ... there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Yes – in terms of percentage Reagan increased the national debt more than anyone. HOWEVER – during Reagans 8 years in office he increased the national debt by $1.7 trillion. Yes GW raised the debt by $4.9 trillion (85% increase) ... but that was in EIGHT years. Obama, in contrast, has raised the national debt $4.7 (45% increase) trillion in just 3 1/2 years!!!!! But as you can see ... Obama’s 45 percent rise is nearly equal in dollar terms to his Bush’s 85 percent increase but that's because he started at a higher base debt.

        When the partisan deceptions on each side are disregarded, the plain fact remains that the debt has increased, for many years, under both Democratic and Republican presidents. And it is currently increasing rapidly, reaching historically high levels, while partisans on both sides continue to do little about it.

        September 21, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
      • sara

        Do your research before you post. Obama increased the debt in 4 years more than Bush did in 8. And yes, Obama did increase it more than all of the prior 43 presidents. Face the facts. Facts are facts. Somehow the media probably spun that one and you listened.

        September 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
      • thunderbolt

        Also scholar, you have to remember that the way healthcare reform was done that we don't realize the cost till over ten years. That way we wasn't suppose to know the total till he was out of office even if he gets re-elected. You know, it gets aggrivating explaining this stuff to liberals day in, and day out. You have the facts in front of you, you just refuse to look and see for yourself......geeeeez

        September 21, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
      • PMB

        How can people as stupid as you Jmacq1 live with yourself?? You CANNOT live in a "msnbc" bubble and believe the rhetoric there. Try and view ALL channels of news, or better yet, do research and get the REAL facts for yourself! Are you smart enough to do that?? I doubt it.

        September 21, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
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