Analysis: Syria options dwindling
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius listen during a meeting of the "Friends of the Syrian People" at the MFA Conference Center July 6, 2012 in Paris, France.
July 7th, 2012
12:01 AM ET

Analysis: Syria options dwindling

By Elise Labott

When the Friends of Syria group began meeting this year, first in Tunis and again in Istanbul, there was a sense of possibility. Perhaps the group would endorse military action against Syria. Maybe they would recognize the Syrian National Council as the legitimate opposition group.

Six months in, the allure has worn off. At their third meeting in Paris, there were no expectations any decisions would be made, except for who would host the next meeting.

Calls were made for tougher sanctions against President Bashar al-Assad's regime, even though most countries which had any business with Syria have already imposed tough measures to no avail.

The group did endorse a transition plan hatched last week in Geneva. The document endorses a Syrian-led transition as part of the peace plan designed by U.N.-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan. The fact that the plan, which provides for an interim government, has no relation to the current reality on the ground or that it had no input from either the Syrian regime or the opposition - the two parties which would have to implement it - didn't seem to be nearly as important as the fact that Russia and China went along with it.

In lieu of an agenda, there was plenty of blame in Paris to heap on Russia and China. Offering her harshest rebuke of Moscow and Beijing to date, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called on each leader present at the meeting to demand that Russia and China "get off the sidelines."

"I don't believe Russia and China believe they are paying any price at all, nothing at all for standing up on behalf of the Assad regime," Clinton said.

The longer the conflict drags on, the tougher Clinton's rhetoric on Russia becomes.

By placing the blame squarely on Russia and China, Clinton and others are able to delude themselves that diplomatic efforts can end the conflict with the main goal of getting Assad out. But in their heart of hearts they know even the most detailed roadmap of a post-Assad Syria has no hope of changing the military balance on the ground enough so that the Syrian military, Assad's inner circle, and Moscow see Assad as a sinking ship and abandon him.

Diplomats in New York are already at work on a new U.N. Security Council resolution endorsing the Annan plan and imposing sanctions on the regime if it fails to implement it. The resolution would be under Chapter 7, which has the implied threat of military action.

But this, too, is a mirage. Privately, U.S. and other western officials recognize they are spinning their wheels. They know there is no chance the Assad regime would implement the Annan plan without a credible military threat and they also know that the appetite for international military action is, well, nonexistent.

Since the conflict in Syria began, the international community has had many excuses for inaction: the lack of a credible opposition, Russian intransigence and the fear of further militarizing the conflict. The need to give Annan's peace plan time to work was just the latest justification.

Riad Seif, a prominent businessman and former member of parliament who recently left Syria and is now a member of the opposition, gave voice to what many Syrians are feeling about the futility of the "Friends of Syria" exercise when he asked the group to make its friendship actually mean something.

"After so many conferences, we fail to see how we have so many friends and people are dying every day," he told the group during a fiery address. "Help us put an end to this massacre."

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  2. michael

    We're not 'spinning our wheels'

    we DON't CARE. There's a difference. Let someone else protect the syrians.

    July 10, 2012 at 10:13 am | Reply
  3. yuri pelham

    Syria would be better as a Russian protectorate. We have to recolonize the Arab world as it is obvious their attempt at self rule has been a colossal failure.

    July 10, 2012 at 10:08 am | Reply
  4. jim

    I look forward to the day this woman is put in the ground right next to Cheney Bush, Rumsfeld, Rice, Paulson, Prince, Silverstein, Zakhiem, Rockefellar, Rothschild, etc. etc. of the globalists. Drawn and quartered would be nice.

    July 10, 2012 at 8:57 am | Reply
  5. ivar

    "Help us put an end to this massacre." Then tell your rag-tag army to stop fighting Assad. Let Annan do his work. Hilary is arming the insurgents and is wringing her hands, blaming the chinks and the Ruskies, when she is the one to blame for using this rag-tag coalition to effect regime change in Syria. Get real!

    July 10, 2012 at 7:24 am | Reply
  6. blessedgeek

    Does Hillary look like the evil Queen or the fairy godmother to the Syrians?

    July 10, 2012 at 3:33 am | Reply




    Military Defections Erode Al-Assads power in Syria

    July 10, 2012 at 2:03 am | Reply


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  9. Bob Brown

    Gotta wait until October to intervene, no matter how many Syrians get killed in the mean time.

    July 10, 2012 at 1:39 am | Reply
  10. CharlieSeattle

    Let them kill each other...

    Syria will send fewer fanatics to screw with Iraq.
    Syria will send fewer fanatics to screw with Afganistan.
    Syria will send fewer fanatics to screw with Isarel., how is that a bad thing?

    July 10, 2012 at 1:04 am | Reply
    • revelations 13:7

      Israel is led by a bunch of fanatics.... fanatics who've got their paws rammed right up Obombya's cornhole, makin him dance, sing, and declare war at whim

      July 10, 2012 at 1:37 am | Reply
    • yuri pelham

      When a terrorist state like Syria, Iran's buddy, is utterly destroyed it's a good thing.

      July 10, 2012 at 10:02 am | Reply
  11. Malcolm in Korea

    The military balance IS changing (increasingly sophisticated military responses from the Free Syrian Army) and the Russians HAVE indicated their lack of confidence in the Assad regime with the recent face saving claims (they are seeking to loosen the asssociation in the public mind of their govt. with Assad)reported on CNN that they will not be supplying "new" weaponary...more patience than that of a "generation X teenager" is required here.....this is not a video game! There will be a bloody end, as the weaponary supplied by Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, increasingly swing the battles on the street towards the FSA.... who have a "buffer zone" inside Turkey and parts of Lebanon and control increasing swathes of countryside.... they cannot produce a "knock out" miitary victory at the current point yet their activities are progressively "white anting" Assad's regime

    July 10, 2012 at 12:39 am | Reply
    • Bob

      True – it is a standard insurgent strategy, particularly when they have a local power backing them ( ie: Turkey ). After all – it is exactly why the US cannot win in Afghanistan against the Taliban, no matter how much we expend in lives and cost, and regardless of our cross border attacks ( drones at this time ). There is one glaring distinction however – we cannot destabilize Pakistan for fear of its nuclear capability falling into the wrong hands. Assad however can choose at any time to destabilize Turkey – after all they have a significant Kurdish ( sectarian ) population which has been brutally suppressed over the decades ( Indeed US government estimates place the number of Kurds killed by Turkish military action in the near to mid past at ~ 30 000. Not much is made of it here perhaps as they are our ally or the journalist just do not want to report it. ). In such case the whole region could blow up – a very dangerous game is being played.

      July 10, 2012 at 9:33 am | Reply
      • Steve Powell

        Very good point about Turkey and the Kurds. Also do not forget that the self rightous Turks still have not admitted to slaughteriing millions of Armenians. It did not happen.

        If anything the attempts at diplomacy have maded the problem more difficult. The inner circle know they have nowhere to go. We all saw what happend in Libya and Egypt. If you do not give a despot an out, like a cornered opposum he will just get meaner. Someone will just have to decide to accept the status quo or use violence. Then it comes down to is it in our strategic interest to invervene.

        What is ironic is the country with the means to put Assad a way is the hated Israel. They have the local force and doctrine that if they chose, they could be in Damascas in a week. Imagine the Arab world rooting for an Isaraeli invasion of Syria. Perhaps they could do a quid quo pro and drop the entire west bank issue if they took out Assad in exchange. But Hillary is too narrow minded to think outside the box.

        July 10, 2012 at 10:36 am |
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    July 9, 2012 at 11:21 pm | Reply
    • CharlieSeattle


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    • Motambo Mteke

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      July 10, 2012 at 8:32 am | Reply
  13. Biggg


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  14. JZ

    And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. Revelations 6:4

    July 9, 2012 at 10:35 pm | Reply
  15. revelations 13:7

    how's that military-industrial complex working out for you america? proving itself hard to maintain without a constant series of wars, eh? we sell the old weapons to comparatively weaker countries and test the new ones on em

    July 9, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Reply
  16. Onikami

    islam is a religion. like christianity, it has fanatics. there are christian terrorists too. no side is innocent in this except people who have the common sense too live and let live. i'm an atheist and all i see is people with jingoism because this or that person don't believe in the same thing. islamic and christian and other fanatics will never stop until they impose their will upon everybody else. this is the way of religion and governments. I DARE YOU TO TRY AND CHANGE THIS. your video will be next.

    July 9, 2012 at 7:15 pm | Reply
    • blessedgeek

      Do you know that Assad and his fellow Alawites are not considered Muslims by Sunnis and even many Shiites? Do you know that the Alawites celebrate Christimas, hold masses, honour Christian saints, and believe that the death of Jesus was necessary for the remission of sins? They do not believe in the finality of the prophethood of Mohammed. The Alawites are a mix of Christianity and Islam and some remnant paganism.

      July 10, 2012 at 3:44 am | Reply
  17. boehnersux

    One thing for d-mn sure, a military intervention by the US will only lead to a wider war. Surely, we learned something from the Iraq invasion.

    July 9, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Reply
    • pozin

      I hope we learned our lesson. We go in and the people we liberate end up shooting at us. I do not know if it is their ideology, upbringing, or culture, regardless I do not want to waste one American life nor waste more money that we do not have. Let the Saudis bankroll this.

      July 9, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Reply
      • Tarek

        Don't talk nonsense you didn't liberate Iraq you completely destroyed Iraq. If America was interested in liberating they drop a bomb on the presidential palace and leave.

        July 19, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
  18. Curiositykilledthecat

    So the question posed- Is the Syrian "opposition" the same "weekend warriors" who crossed the Syrian/Iraqi border to engage U.S. troops in Iraq?- or do they fall on the side of Damascus and Tehran? CNN hasnt been nice enough to say ( to my knowledge), does the terror network of islamic extreamist have a foothold in Syria??

    July 9, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Reply
    • mousethatroared

      Let Syria handle its own civil war. If Russia wants to do nothing or intervene, more power to them. If China wants to do nothing or intervene, more power to them. If Turkey wants to do nothing, or intervene, more power to them. I do not think that any Syrian government will support the US, so why care about them!

      July 9, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Reply
  19. BLM



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    • dogface

      You might want to unlock your CAPS key. Assad is just trashing his own country. Let him do it. How do we know the opposition is any better? Let Russia intervene if they want as they have a port they use in Syria.

      July 9, 2012 at 7:00 pm | Reply
    • revelations 13:7

      too many war-glorifying video games and movies methinks.... America's foreign policies are akin to a video game; they way we set up, go in, and turn these countries into little puppet colonies for the US, it's sickening, and they're able to do it by playing off the emotions of the docile, non-thinking people of this country

      July 9, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Reply
  20. BLM




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  21. Grog Says

    No flea zone.
    Grog make joke, ha ha.

    July 9, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Reply
  22. RyRoe08


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  23. cj

    The US is 'spinning its wheels' trying to police the world. Bring all the boys home and let the world police itself.

    July 9, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Reply
    • dogface

      I concur. Let the Syrian civil war rage on. The US can stay on the sidelines. Why get involved? What is their to gain?

      July 9, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Reply
      • revelations 13:7

        corporate profit, another central bank in the world to throw another country's citizenry into debt bondage... we'll bulldoze Assad's palaces and build wal-marts, mcdonalds, and starbucks on top of the rubble

        July 9, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • theend

      cj, are you still under the illusion that the US is the worlds policeman, it is the worlds bully, bent on world domination. If the usa can't buy them, bribe them, then we bomb them, that is the facts.

      July 9, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Reply
    • Ben

      i agree. The whole yellow-journalism tenor of the article is disgusting. And, if we were dumb enough to get involved, all CNN would do is who the babies killed while we fought Assad.

      July 9, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Reply
    • flasteve2000

      It is the cold war all over again.And yet our gov't has been trying to downplay it,and turn it into something else--its all about upstaging Russia/China,but mainly Russia.It's about who has political clout in the Middle East.We forced Russia out of Europe,now comes Asia.Isn't it apparent,when every country we target is a ,or once was a Russian ally?

      July 9, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Reply
    • JohnnyAnonymous


      Agreed 100%. Why the U.S. feels so inclined to stick their noses into everything is beyond me.

      July 9, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Reply
      • realist_drib

        @ outsiders, not every north american shares the same view, i dont belive we should be involved in anyones business. we should be taking care of our backyard not our neighbors.

        July 9, 2012 at 9:48 pm |
  24. Curiositykilledthecat

    Aside from all the Islamphobia comments, i agree with most of what was said, but the fact remains as long as fanaticism (whether Muslim or American Racism) overminds education, larger conflict is sure to come! Pakistan has shunned it's co-Nobel Prize winner- majority of Americans ( christians) are ready for another Crusade. My advice; stop looking for god in anceint text and look in a physics book, then we can go back to fighting over territory, riches, glory, ect.

    July 9, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Reply
  25. Justin

    Just remember how many lives it took to gain our own freedom over 200 yrs ago... We asked for help and got it. Why should we deny those that are asking for help to be free from this regime? After we were freed from the British Crown, we didn't know our own course, but we created it and went on. Sure there's been mistakes along the way. It happens. Tens and Tens of thousands fought for our freedom, so let them enjoy that small luxury in life.

    July 9, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Reply
    • Anthony

      The French (and the Spanish and thr Dutch for that matter, we tend to forget that they helped us too) did not help us out of teh goodness of their hearts. Or out of any ideological reason - after all, the Spanish and French at the time were absolte monarchies with only the barest of checks on royal perogative (the Dutch were a merchant republic with an hereditary stadtholder). They did it because it was n their interest. France wanted some measure of revenge after the disaster of the 7 Years War and to break the America's away from the British empire. The Spanish wanted Gibraltar and Florida back, and to safeguard their holdings in the Carribean. The Dutch wanted to harm British naval power and to open up trade with the Americas.

      Where exactly is the US interest here? I see precious little.

      July 9, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Reply
      • Bob

        Correct as well. It was a proxy war, just as we now see in Syria. For example the French noted a chance to stretch British militarily at the time, bleed them, and perhaps to visit them a strategic loss, and they did.

        July 9, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
  26. FHTEX

    We're actually not spinning our wheels ... we have armed the opposition to the teeth. The problem is that the opposition Islamists and Al Qaeda types have little support in Syria. If we'd just leave the country alone (and a host of others as well), it would do just fine.

    July 9, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Reply
    • Bob

      Correct. In otherwords we have contributed to the death toll in an almost purely sectarian war for frankly our own geo political interests, just as Russia and China have opposing geopolitical interests and have thus taken opposing actions. In all of this there is scant real concern for the civilians. Saudi Arabia's involvement is for me a red flag given their probable involvement with Al Quaida at the time of 9/11 – supported by the fact that the US has strangely been careful to not investigate that connection. Finally, as for Hillary's 'moral' stance, I find it hard to forget that she voted for the Iraq war ( attack on a country for contrived reasons ) without even bothering to read the intelligence docs at the time ( she admitted it ) – that is hardly the act of a person who has great respect for human life ( our soldiers, other civilians ) I think.

      July 9, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Reply
    • Syrian

      You are right.
      Today the terrorists kidnapped 200 children in Northern Aleepo; they are surrounding one police station; they are threatening the Army to kill the children if they send back up for that station.

      so do you believe these people want freedom or ???????????

      Man Syrian people will fix the problem themselves with no need to any help from outside

      July 9, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Reply
      • Ray Gray

        The U.S.A. should stay out of this dispute, but continue to buy Oil, Opium, in trade for IED's and WMD which we can barter for camel dung and goat feces which is better tasting than MRE's. I also want to say that lately I have been finding pieces of rock in my Arab vittles!

        July 9, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
      • flasteve2000

        wrong-Syria will still get help from CIA,MI6 and Turkish terrorists-you couldn't do it alone.Not a chance.

        July 9, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
  27. ron

    Of course we are spinning our wheels, just as the rest of the world in this matter. This is an Arab problem in an Arab world. It is there problem and we should really only make a strong judgement depending on how the Arab community handles it. THe USA, China, Russia, Europe, etc should not have any say it what happens there. If we don't like it, don't do business with them or anyone who is in a position to stop it (Arab countries) but don't. We will get much better results and be able to hold our heads up. We really need to start addressing the middle east problem in a responsible way, not with boots on the ground, but with financial detachment (in all ways) with those that permit these atrocities to continue in their backyards.

    July 9, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Reply
  28. jayon

    whos cares about syria..let him kill as much people as he want...we already lost enough troops in the last 10 years!!! Anyways were most likely going to war with iran with the path iran is going with the nuclear programs

    July 9, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Reply
  29. Descarado

    America does not need to waste any more lives or money in another Islamic garbage dump.

    These woman-stoning Neanderthals have nothing in common with women's rights, universal suffrage or Western democracy.

    This is not out neighborhood. Let the Islamo-fascists take out their own garbage.

    July 9, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Reply
    • Descarado

      -our neighborhood...

      July 9, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Reply
    • ron


      July 9, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Reply
    • jayon

      you are 100 percent right....let these muslims killers take care of themselves...

      July 9, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Reply
    • Jersey Joe

      We need to keep our noses out of this. Hillary, come home...take care of Bill. We cannot interfere in these Moslem countries just because they treat women differently than in our culture. It's none fo our business.

      July 9, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Reply
    • flasteve2000

      agreed--will the White House listen to the people,though?Or will they fulfill their own foreign agendas?

      July 9, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Reply
  30. southernwonder

    i dont see why we should be encouraging assad's fall when it was certain the price in human lives was/is going to be high. i am sure none of those who got killed or hurt, or their families, as a result of our policy of removing assad would be ok with it. israel seems to be sitting pretty but it is a foregone conclusion hillary feels obligated to and pressured by this lobby when she goes around advocating a blood bath in syria.

    July 9, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Reply
  31. Curiositykilledthecat

    Anyone think that instead of calling for help from the allies of WWII and sparking old soviet aggression we should let the Middle East (established culturally long before England, Russia, ect.) handle it internally! -as in no Caucasians?

    July 9, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply
    • duckforcover

      We (Americans) are making enemies faster than we can kill them.

      July 9, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Reply
  32. clearick

    The US could go into Syria and spend $ on troops and material. Using the UN is a bad idea since neither Russia or China will support any action and use their veto to stop any attempt. NATO can go in, but this would make Turkey the dominant nation and the West doesn't trust Erdogan.

    NATO should initiate a no-fly zone and prevent Iran and Russia from supplying more arms. Let the free Syrian people develop a strategy to force Assad out of power.

    As long as the US is unwilling to act, along with their allies, Iran will continue to maintain control. The Muslim world is at war, and neither side is really worth supporting.

    July 9, 2012 at 11:49 am | Reply
    • Curiositykilledthecat

      So how long should the nations of the world focus on these shadow wars of the powers that be?- i was under the impression that war (no matter who's revolution) was a diplomatic failure at best- America called on France, Assad calls on Russia, Wars were better when met with sword in sheild in open feild!- correct?

      July 9, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Reply
    • mousethatroared

      I agree that neither side in the Syrian civil is worth supporting. Please recall Hillary Clinton back home, have her work on her Spanish, and have her work on US/Latin American relations.

      July 9, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Reply
  33. dust in the mouth

    Syria – Assad going Crazy – 2012


    July 9, 2012 at 11:27 am | Reply
    • Aaron Chaney

      Covetousness is a sin. Translation: Tunisia only has received proper remuneration during the so-called Arab Spring because they are an original. All the rest i.e. Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain and yes Syria, are all covetous copycats.

      July 9, 2012 at 11:43 am | Reply
  34. dust in the mouth


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  35. BBS




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  36. Thomas Henley

    While may flag soluting Americans take umbrage with the notion, the plain fact is Washington has a credibility problem when it comes to the causi belli for wars. Americans have been decieved in times past and many are aware of it, while internationally there is no reason for other nations to pretend we haven't been caught red handed manufacturing pretexts for war.

    Shadowy violent opposition groups with no clear leadership, chain of command or statements of idealogy or intent are not the kind of groups I'd hitch my wagon too just for the sake of ousting a long standing leader who is lukewarm to the West on a good day, and adamant against it on most.

    This is one American sick of gunboat diplomacy and I'm sure those outside of America are even more tired of it than many of us in America are.

    It's an embarassment, and our attempts to bully and intimidate yet another lawful government into folding up shop establishing too clear of a pattern of what our founders and most Americans never intended or want America to be.

    July 9, 2012 at 11:07 am | Reply
  37. BBS


    Car bomb in a funeral procession Zamalka Syria


    July 9, 2012 at 11:05 am | Reply
  38. BBS


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  39. robot

    BLA- Thanks for stating the obvious. Quite enlightening. None of us knew this information.
    Now I believe this is where you state an opinion. Do you happen to have one?

    July 9, 2012 at 11:00 am | Reply
  40. pbernasc

    BS .. the reason there is no intervention is that one truly democratically elected President with strong religious political basis(Egypt) is enough for the time being in the region. , at least in the eyes of the West.
    Russia and China help covering this up as a diplomatic issue .. in reality nobody wants Syria going where Egypt is because that would make it into a very clear Iranian expansion opportunity. No need to give the Iranians one more country after having hand them over Iraq (thank you GOP)

    July 9, 2012 at 10:36 am | Reply
  41. Dylan


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  42. BLA

    The United Nations has said more than 10,000 people have been killed since the Syrian crisis began in March 2011. What started as peaceful protests against the regime spiraled into a bloody government crackdown and armed uprising.

    July 9, 2012 at 9:40 am | Reply
  43. BLA


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  44. welloiled

    I suspect many Syrians are also asking when is the West going to stop meddling and arming the terrorists........ Not all one sided


    July 9, 2012 at 5:18 am | Reply
  45. Middle Earsren

    I would love to see the day when politicians say things as they really are and stop the BS.
    The reason America isnt intervening in Syria is that the US prefers to opress the Arab and Muslim world. The US, Russia, and Iran are so much against Muslims and Islam.
    I dont know why.

    July 9, 2012 at 4:37 am | Reply
    • Other kind of Middle Eastern

      And if US helps the rebbels to kill Assad and his Alawi (or whatever they called) tribe it will be better ???

      July 9, 2012 at 8:18 am | Reply


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  47. de_Waal

    Obama is moving the American forces away from home before the election ,because he is suspecting trouble and he has a separate army trained to take care of things when the time come
    I’m talking about at home he is not really planing to help Israel he is also a Muslim working for the brother hood.Look at all the things that is shift into place lately for the elections.
    Obama bring out a new law now on communication, than there is the thing about the private arms and the health bill (maybe to force people to take the chip) and he is doing away with some of the weapons of mass destruction.Look around a lot of things is put into place for the election. I like the idea of him to protect or support Israel but I think he would like to destroy Israel.

    July 9, 2012 at 3:59 am | Reply
    • sinbad

      Take your meds and lie down.

      July 9, 2012 at 4:09 am | Reply
      • de_Waal

        That`s good because it is out of our hands, Jesus Christ the Son of God, will come and sort it out after 7 years of hell on earth for those that stay behind.

        July 9, 2012 at 4:17 am |
  48. desjardins

    Those who are providing the rebels with arms , have blood on their hands .

    July 9, 2012 at 3:55 am | Reply
    • de_Waal

      It is part of the new world order

      July 9, 2012 at 4:07 am | Reply
  49. yorkie

    yorkie 1 here again

    The most important thing about the Paris meeting is arranging the date of the next meeting.Keeping all these, well fed so called diplomats on the "gravy train" Just more BS.

    July 9, 2012 at 3:23 am | Reply
    • de_Waal

      It is to keep all attention away from home

      July 9, 2012 at 4:02 am | Reply
  50. Tony

    we have already been in Iraq and Afghanistan but we in Australia will not follow you into Siria its time to get out of the hell hole the middle east has become

    July 9, 2012 at 3:07 am | Reply
    • sinbad

      Australia will do what it's told.

      July 9, 2012 at 3:11 am | Reply
    • g

      agreed. australia will do as its told

      July 9, 2012 at 9:58 am | Reply
  51. sinbad

    Why is it that none of the media mentions the real motives behind destabilizing Syria.

    It's really about the new silk road or rather who gets to control the new silk road. The US road goes through Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Iranian version goes through Iran Iraq and Syria. Ending the road in Syria means direct access to the Mediterranean. The US option uses Pakistan and the Suez canal to get to Europe.
    The Iranian option is obviously more cost effective, but the US has big investment in Afghanistan.

    July 9, 2012 at 2:45 am | Reply
    • Fearless Freep


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  52. sinbad

    The Friends of Syria, an interesting name for a group of countries that are in fact all enemies of Syria. The fact that Syria has managed to survive against such a formidable alliance shows how strong Syria really is.

    July 9, 2012 at 2:35 am | Reply
  53. paulmartin expat welsh foreign correspondent

    assad will back off and run for his life when he is branded an international war criminal by the icc in the Hague !

    July 9, 2012 at 2:08 am | Reply
  54. Anthony

    It is not our war. So long as Syria no longer poses a threat to us why get involved?

    July 9, 2012 at 1:55 am | Reply
    • outsiders

      1) Why do the NORTH Americans have such strong stands on something that has nothing to do with them?
      2) Russia (the great evil) seems to be the only one who is afraid of a post-Assad fundamentalist islamic state

      For the US the one-religion-dictatorship is nothing new/weird looking what the poor people there have to endure.
      Why can't the Syrians themselves be allowed to decide their leadership? The opposition has grown from peaceful
      demonstrations to a blood-thirsty and power-hungry machine backed by other sunni states.

      Now that for once Israel has stepped back, why do the others have to go and ruin a "natural" course of events in a state? Remember all the civil wars that the Europeans and to some extent even the NORTH American have had to endure.

      July 9, 2012 at 2:23 am | Reply
      • Center Of The Universe

        You have one planet.
        You must stop the petty squables between nations.
        You are being watched.
        Time is running out.

        July 9, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • frank sol

      Anthony... u r like most US citizens... this is not about Syria or the Syrian people... it's about Israel, just think about it.

      July 9, 2012 at 2:28 am | Reply
      • Anthony

        Why s it always about Israel with you folks. I have seen people argue that (i) Israel is behind the rebels because they fear Assad and (ii) Israel secretly is supporting Assad because they fear the reblels. Maybe it is that there are some in that country that want Assad gone while others want him to stay. Maybe, just maybe, Israel has nothing to do with any of this.

        July 9, 2012 at 11:29 am |
      • Fearless Freep

        Another nut.

        July 9, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
  55. yorkie

    yorkie 1here again

    Anyone noticed how Hilary has aged, recently,she has a face like an unmade bed.
    Better put her out to grass,and Annan needs to be looking after his chimps in Africa,rather than professing to be just another international diplomat.Chimp tea party for Annon

    July 9, 2012 at 1:51 am | Reply
    • joe

      @yorkie, dont forget that you are also a chimp.

      July 9, 2012 at 2:12 am | Reply
      • yorkie

        yorkie 1 here again

        I have been called many things in my life,but never a chimp,I am pure white and handsome.
        Why do you call me a chimp. Are you black?

        July 9, 2012 at 3:13 am |
    • Dwayne , South-African

      Us chimps in Africa, are doing allot better than you are. Don.t worry we'll collect money and sent it over to feed all those starving, unemployed, indebted , overweight, divorce statistic, drug addicted, brainwashed by the media Americans.

      July 9, 2012 at 2:24 am | Reply
    • To the Retard called Yorkie

      You claim to be white and handsome but its clear you have a brain the size of a mustard seed.

      July 9, 2012 at 6:03 am | Reply
    • Fearless Freep

      Hillary has been flying all over the planet trying to fix these messes,
      you sit on your butt griping on your computer.
      Get your finger out of your butt moron.

      July 9, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Reply
  56. yorkie

    yorkie 1here again

    Anyone noticed how Hilary has aged, recently,she has a face like an unmade bed.
    Better put her out to grass,and Annan needs to be looking after his chimps in Africa,rather than professing to be just another international diplomat.

    July 9, 2012 at 1:48 am | Reply
  57. yorkie

    yorkie 1 here again

    I say again,July is the month for DAISY CUTTER bombs,problem solved,Period.

    July 9, 2012 at 1:43 am | Reply
  58. Jamal Ahmed

    The solution is very simple. Arm Free Syrian Army with Stinger missiles for Anti Crafts and Milan missiles for Anti Tanks. No troops on the ground no military intervention and see how the Syrians will liberate themselves within weeks.

    July 9, 2012 at 1:24 am | Reply
    • Justice Maker

      Ahmed if you have as much money as brains the world can become better place. Why arm only the "rebbels" please send some weapons to Assad as well and let them all slaughter each other. Any way it's a tribal war and none of them is any better than the other. Assads tribe is a minority in Syria so any way they will be slaughtered at the end of the day you can only save them some misserable time...

      July 9, 2012 at 8:14 am | Reply
  59. dd

    Syria, Iran ... Obama's foreign policy plan is a mess. Thousands and thousands will have died waiting for someone who respects life to help. Obama will probably send Planned Parenthood in to abort all babies.

    July 8, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Reply
    • runner305

      OK, genius. Exactly WHAT is Obama supposed to do? What? Go in there with guns blazing?

      July 8, 2012 at 11:16 pm | Reply
      • James

        Um yes? One air strike and the Syria issue is over.

        July 9, 2012 at 12:06 am |
    • Kent Bowen

      Not to mention that we are not the international police. We ugly Americans need to rely on the rest of the world to step in.

      July 8, 2012 at 11:24 pm | Reply
    • runner305

      People like you really make me sick. You constantly complain about Obama, yet you offer no solution (just like your candidate Romney). You KNOW that if we went in there, it could easily start World War 3. But you will criticize Obama anyway, simply because it makes YOU feel better.

      July 8, 2012 at 11:28 pm | Reply
    • Fearless Freep

      *** James

      Um yes? One air strike and the Syria issue is over.

      Another MORON !!!

      One air strike on Syrian soil will get you a Russian and probably Iranian response.
      Then you get all the Muslims screaming about an attack from Imperial Satan America,
      and the place blows like popcorn on a hot stove.
      You "keyboard warriors" are amazing in the most stupid way.

      July 9, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Reply
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  69. outspoken123

    Free syrian Army should fight with China and Russia because they are the real enemy of peace in syria.

    July 8, 2012 at 7:21 am | Reply
  70. savehumanity

    how can there be peace in Syria when the USA is openly providing weapons and tactics to the rebels who have to date commited many terrorist acts and killed many innocent people. when will the USA stop supporting terrorism? All: please look up the dictionary definition of terrorism and then compare it to what the USA is doing.
    peace to all...............

    July 8, 2012 at 6:34 am | Reply
    • Trevor

      Cite your source that the U.S. is "openly" providing weapons to the opposition groups in Syria...

      July 8, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Reply
      • P. JOSH

        You must be joking,do we even hide it,The Saudi pigs and Qatar openly stated that they are providing weapons to these so called rebels,where do you think they get these weapons from,as far as I know those 2 countries don,t even manufacture knives so much for war type weapons.
        If you are blind,keep fooling yourself.

        July 8, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
      • Buzzer

        P. JOSH- I've seen countless clips and pics of these opposition fighters, and they're all utilizing Russian designed AKs, RPGs, heavy machine guns and AAA. The U.S. does not manufacture these weapons genius. These weapons are being purchase on the black market and through international arms dealers. Do you self a favor and do some research on how these weapons are being aquired by Saudi, Qatar and Turkey... BTW, 15 year active duty Major sitting in the CAOC in Qatar privy to information you're not...ingnorance is bliss pal.

        July 9, 2012 at 1:16 am |
    • Trevor

      In addition, "A small number of C.I.A. officers are operating secretly.." (not so secretly now) " southern Turkey, helping allies decide which Syrian opposition fighters across the border will receive arms to fight the Syrian government, according to American officials and Arab intelligence officers." Further, "The C.I.A. officers have been in southern Turkey for several weeks, in part to help keep weapons out of the hands of fighters allied with Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, one senior American official said."– N.Y. Times 21 June 2012.

      Who exactly are you to decide who is a terrorist group and who are legitimate opposition fighters to the Assad regime? You've got two very different stories on who are the "bad guys" right now...Assad's regime says all opposition groups are "terrorist groups", though most of the world disagrees. It is now apparent that there is a "mixed bag" of folks fighting the Assad regime, thats why you have U.S. personnel helping monitor who gets the weapons, which are being provided by Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, NOT the U.S..

      July 8, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Reply
      • P. JOSH

        Is that right,so Saudi Arabia and Qatar manufacture weapons now,please enlighten me,what kind of weapons those 2 countries manufacture besides knives.
        Only an idiot like you would repeat this garbage,anyone with common sense know where these so called rebels are getting their weapons from.

        July 8, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
      • Buzzer

        P. JOSH- Again, see above.

        July 9, 2012 at 1:24 am |
    • James

      You post is ridiculous... you post no sources... what a completely useless post.

      July 9, 2012 at 12:07 am | Reply
  71. M&M


    July 7, 2012 at 8:48 pm | Reply
    • evilChina

      Let's fight the evil China. China is the Satan ,Red Dragon, Holy war !!!!!!

      All should stop do trade with China ,drive chinese away from US!!

      July 7, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Reply
      • Jim Carry

        how many made in china mershadise you have in your home? and how many made in US?.What you are going to do without you PC or TV made in China? I think we know the answer

        July 8, 2012 at 2:53 am |
      • savehumanity

        LOL at you, a true lunatic. really China is the threat to world peace. unfortunately the statistics dont lie..... USA is the no.1 threat to peace in the world. SadBut True.

        July 8, 2012 at 6:37 am |
      • Buzzer

        Save- Do you want to get into list of countries in the ME that are cooperating with the U.S. military and while we're at it in the world? Let me know...I've ALOT of countries that I can cite that would beg to differ with your assessment...

        July 8, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
      • Andrey

        You are right! US should go to war with China: right after it is done with Iran.

        July 9, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
  72. maltesefalconx9

    Will the US government be proposing to cut off all trade with the People's Republic in order to force them to stop vetoing anti-Syria actions? When will the Israeli Republic attempt to pressure the US into that position?

    July 7, 2012 at 6:45 pm | Reply
    • Andrey

      Israel pressures US into nothing. It only leads and directs it!

      July 9, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Reply
  73. maltesefalconx9

    Who does Secretary Clinton think is the legitmate government of Syria? The CIA? Oh, now there's a good group! Yup.

    July 7, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Reply
    • Fearless Freep

      Assads father took over Syria in a military coup.
      You think that is legitimate ?

      July 9, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Reply
  74. maltesefalconx9

    The Enemies of Syria group exists for one reason: to plot the assassination of the elected President of Syria.
    I really feel this is a reactionary, negative situation which should not be encouraged.

    July 7, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Reply
    • Fearless Freep

      What part of "moron" dont you understand ?

      July 9, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Reply
  75. PBJ


    July 7, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Reply
    • Jim Carry

      sure with Mr.Putin they can take a lead

      July 8, 2012 at 2:55 am | Reply
    • Andrey

      No. If you put the question this way, that somebody has to rule the world: the answer is "No". Russia and China only make excuses. US wants to rule the world and is prepared to make all the sacrifices.

      July 9, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Reply
  76. oldbikerbeatch

    Muslims and Islam will never be satisfied, pacified or mollified until every "infidel" either submits to their murderous cult or is dead. Like the alien creatures in the science fiction movie "Independence Day," their response will always be: "Peace? There can be no peace" and, like when Bill Pullman's character asks what we can do, Islam's answer will always be: "Die."

    July 7, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Reply
    • savehumanity

      well well well, another person brain washed by the powers that be. before you come out with this rant please read a little about what Islam is. the meaning and definition of the word Islam is peace and the doctorine is of peace and the method to spread islam is peace. dont listen to any body or any opinion , research it your self or are you just to afraid of what you'll find? the many thousands of people that came to islam in the USA after 9/11 came to it unintentionally. they read about the largest followed religion in the world as reasearch but ultimately discovered more than they bargained for.
      peace to all............

      July 8, 2012 at 6:42 am | Reply
  77. bolock

    Agree with Jetro, and I wish they would stop saying Assad is killing "his own people", Assad is killing armed opponants,and many of them are not even from Syria.

    July 7, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Reply
    • Lyndsie Graham

      How true that rings, bolock!!!

      July 7, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Reply
    • savehumanity

      Asaad is only trying to beat down the USA backed foreign terrorists. why cant the USA stop meddling in other sovereign states?
      ooops i forgot, they need to increase power and secure oil. oh and take them one step closer to attack Iran.
      peace to all..........

      July 8, 2012 at 6:47 am | Reply
      • Trevor

        Let us all know when the U.S. "steps in" and exploits Syria for its oil reserves when the Assad regime falls...just like the did in Iraq right? Again "cite" your source of U.S. "explotation" of Iraqi oil reserves. Further, let us all know when the U.S. "attacks" Iran... I'm sitting in the Combined Air Operations Center in Qatar 3 into a 6 month deployment and ignorance for you is bliss pal...

        July 8, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
      • Fearless Freep

        The amount of oil Syria has is pee in a cup.

        July 9, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  78. magneticink

    This Public Service Announcement is on behalf of all victims of genocide, they wish to thank the world community for their inaction: Belgian Congo 1891-1911 11,500,000 blacks died, from 1907 Congo was a Belgian Crown Domain; Armenia 1915 1,500,000 Christian Armenians killed by Turks; USSR 1921 21,000,000 killed by Soviet engineered famine; Ukraine 1932-1933 4,821,600 died of hunger engineered by Stalin with another 7,465,000 during 1932-1939; USSR 1934-1953 15 million Russians disappeared in the Gulags; Poland 1,700,000 Poles deported to Siberia after 1941; Bengal 1943 1,500,000 died of war related famine; Germany 3 million civilians killed by Russians in the last months of WW2; Cambodia 1975-1979 Khmer Rouge Pol Pot killed 1,700,000 of his own people; East Timor 1983-1985 200,000 East Timorese; Rwanda/Burundi 1993-1994 700,000 Hutus and Tutsies murdered; Yugoslavia 1991-2000 250,000 killed by Milosovic forces; and this list is incomplete. Thanks again!

    July 7, 2012 at 11:23 am | Reply
    • savehumanity

      the millions of innocent men , women and CHILDREN killed by the US to get to sadam hussein, the millions of men women and CHILDREN the US killed to get to one Osama bin laden.
      i think the list of innocent people killed by the US is way longer than your compilation of all the worlds lunatics put together.
      really? we could be here all day debating but the bottom line is NO ONE has the right to interfere with other countries!
      Egypt case in point. one of the only nations to peacefully regime change...........why? cos USA werent involved....ooops

      July 8, 2012 at 7:02 am | Reply
      • Trevor

        It just never ends with you does it? AGAIN, cite you sources on the "millions" of civilians directly killed by the U.S. in Iraq and Afghanistan...if you sit there and make claims, you better start to "back it up" with sources, otherwise you're creditability is ZERO...

        July 8, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • P. JOSH

      interesting how you left us out,how many did we help murder in the dirty war in South America,how many we murdered in Africa,the Caribbean,I don,t even want to get into our genocide of the Native Americans,keep fooling yourself as if the USA is a saint,unlike you I am not blind nor brainwashed.

      July 8, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Reply
  79. Hillary leaves obama in the dust of failure

    The guy in the pic is saying , the hot air has come out of the tires of obama spin bus , and is running on flats with the job report punching holes through his fast talk of hollow results.

    July 7, 2012 at 8:18 am | Reply
  80. Jetro

    It is pretty sad when the only ones with any common sense are Russia and China. With Al Qaeda terrorists streaming into Syria according to Iraq, the last thing that should be done is impose a no fly zone that would prevent Syria from interdicting them. The best move would be for the US to stop meddling in the affairs of sovereign states and mind its own damn business, because ever since it started supporting the so-called rebels/terrorists, the situation has only escalated.

    Hillary the hun saying that the US and Al Qaeda were on the same side in regards to Syria shows just how screwed up the US State Department's foreign policy has become. Really!....the US is on the same side as the terrorists who killed thousands of Americans and who we have we have spent trillions of dollars to wipe out?

    July 7, 2012 at 2:13 am | Reply
    • Travis

      Well put, Jethro. Thank you.

      July 7, 2012 at 10:46 am | Reply
  81. Mark

    MIke your right! That will be a first good step forward

    July 7, 2012 at 1:48 am | Reply
    • Phunnie boy

      I agree with you and Mike, Mark. The right-wing thugs in Washington must be grinning by now.

      July 7, 2012 at 2:01 am | Reply
      • savehumanity

        is ther a nation (government) more power crazy and evil than the USA?
        how many other nations in this world, and how many million civillians have suffered due to the wars and sanctions imposed by the US?
        why does the world see the USA as the bully and the biggest threat to peace and humanity?
        oh, because they are and they dont give a damn.

        July 8, 2012 at 6:54 am |
      • Andrey

        Savehumanity: bullies only try to scare and to humiliate you.
        US politicians want both your money and your love: they do not accept anything less.
        That is not some stupid bullying: that is protection business.

        July 9, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
  82. Mike

    No Fly Zone is the only logical solution, the way I see it.

    July 7, 2012 at 1:18 am | Reply
    • indep100

      A NATO only fly zone would be very costly to enforce.

      July 8, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Reply
    • Andrey

      Do you mean No Fly Zone Libyan way? Meaning full scale bombing and supply of heavier weapons to "opposition"?

      July 9, 2012 at 12:44 pm | Reply
    • Grog Says

      Grog say, blind and stupid make bad combination.

      July 9, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Reply

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