Apology still at issue between U.S. and Pakistan
June 14th, 2012
12:05 AM ET

Apology still at issue between U.S. and Pakistan

By Jill Dougherty and Mike Mount

The United States' refusal to apologize for a 2011 military strike that killed two dozen Pakistani troops continues to hold up any final agreement to open transit routes into Afghanistan, a senior Pakistani diplomat tells CNN.

The official described the talks as being in hiatus after U.S. negotiators left the country this week following nearly two months of talks over reopening land routes from Pakistan into Afghanistan that have been used to carry supplies for the war.

The official spoke on background because of the sensitivity of the issue.

U.S. officials had indicated the main sticking point was the significantly increased fees Pakistan was demanding.

"It's not about money," the Pakistan official said.

The official said the killings are an extremely sensitive subject in Pakistan, especially during an election year, and the parliament was demanding an official apology. For President Barack Obama, apologizing for something the United States believes was not intentional also could be politically sensitive.

The Pakistani official said the demand was not that President Obama himself necessarily apologize; a gesture from the administration of an apology by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would be acceptable. Senior U.S. officials have expressed regret for the killings and have issued condolences.

On Wednesday during a Senate hearing, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta was asked by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, why the United States has not issued an apology if it would allow Pakistan to open the roads used to ship NATO equipment in and out of Afghanistan through Pakistan.

"This is an issue that's still under negotiation, there are discussions that continue with regards to how we'll resolve this and the issue you discussed is one of those areas," Panetta said.

"We expressed the condolences for the mistakes we made, and we've made that clear and we certainly have continued to make clear the mistakes that were made. I think the problem is that at this point they're asking not only for that, but there are other elements to the negotiation that are also involved that have to be resolved," he continued.

On Tuesday during a briefing for Pentagon reporters, Panetta's spokesman, George Little, was asked whether a lack of apology was holding up the negotiations.

"We have made it clear that we have taken responsibility for the mistakes we made with respect to the November 25, 26 border incident, and I would repeat that sense of regret that we have about this incident," he said.

"It's time, we believe, to move forward in the relationship with Pakistan. We do have that opportunity. This relationship is not where it needs to be right now. We all understand that," Little said.

Talks between NATO and Pakistan have been ongoing for several weeks to reopen the lines closed since a November 2011 mistaken attack on Pakistani troops by NATO forces. The attack killed 24 Pakistani troops along the border with Afghanistan.

The NATO alliance in Afghanistan began using a northern distribution route almost immediately after Pakistan closed its borders to supplies coming in and equipment and material leaving Afghanistan.

The northern passageway, however, costs considerably more - more than double what the United States and NATO had been paying Pakistan. Costs for the Pakistani route range from approximately $250 per truck, while trucks passing through the northern route can cost more than $1,200 per truck.

During the negotiations with Pakistan, U.S. and NATO officials said Pakistan wanted to raise its transit rates to as much as $5,000 per truck, something the United States said it would not pay.

During the Wednesday Senate hearing, Panetta said the use of the northern route costs the United States more than $100 million per month.

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  1. Cliff

    Many of the comments posted here consist of not much more than finger-pointing–or eye-poking (enough to blind us all) and emotional cheer-leading for one side or the other, not the sort of thing that's helpful to anyone. It's very sad, really, that people seem unable to have a civil discussion of the topic at hand.

    As for that, yes, I believe that we should apologize to Pakistan and to the families of the 24 troops we accidentally killed in what amounts to a "friendly fire" incident. The fact that they were targeted by mistake (and yes, even with all the safeguards modern technology offers, mistakes can and do still happen, and not just in Pakistan–remember the incident where US fighters bombed a group of Canadians in Afghanistan?) is immaterial–we owe them an apology. I believe that not doing so diminishes us in the eyes of the world.

    Now, as for Pakistan's decision to close the country to NATO supply lines. It may have started as a response to our refusal to apologize for the air strike, but it looks more like an attempt to squeeze as much as $5000 per truck out of NATO, forcing it to use a northern route that already charges thousands for each truck.

    Has NATO forgotten Operation Vittles, better known as the Berlin Airlift? Air power was used to break the Soviet blockade of Berlin. It took a while, and it was expensive, but it worked. If NATO demonstrated its resolve with similar action, it just might find it cheaper in the long run. Pakistan is well-aware that the "gravy train" they've been riding leaves the station for good in 2014. I think they are simply trying to gouge every last penny they can from NATO, and that this incident was as good an excuse as any to try this tactic.

    June 24, 2012 at 6:36 pm | Reply
    • Muhammad

      Mr. as much as I agree with some of your thoughts (in particular US apology on the incident) I don’t think you have the right to call people here on the forum 'eye pokers' – it is true in some cases however a blanket comment is not warranted, you do some of this eye poking yourself when you elude to a mythical 'gravy train' for Pakistan. That sort of comment helps no one and does not help a logical discussion ! think about it.

      Now to the topic, Pakistan has lost about 30,000 civilians and 5000 soldiers because we joined Americas war 10 years ago – we have lost 80 Billion US Dollors in trade and loss of investment due to instability caused by this war and enough is enough frankly. A compensation of 23 billion most of it pocketed by corrupt politicians means nothing to us and today every Pakistani is demanding an end to US AID which is basically another name for political bribe.

      Since we stopped the American supply routes, Taliban violence has diminished considerably inside Pakistan and they seem to be for the most part ignoring us and focusing on the NATO and US.

      Hard as it may be for you to accept, the core issue for us is not the 'fees' but stopping violance inside Pakistan, even at $6000 per truck this generates a mere 400 million per year which is peanuts to our economy of 500 Billion and a population of 180 Million. We have precisely raised this as we know Obama will have very hard time getting it thru the congress or apologise to Pakistan and the supply routes stay close meanwhile. Obama administration is HAPPY to pay double that amount as aid thru coalition support fund but cannott politically sell this as fees to the congress and the stalemate continues – all the better for us. Its just a polite way for us to say we don’t want to be part of this war, we have sacrificed enough in blood and money and seen how thankless America and Americans are.

      As for the air lift – go for it, just don’t use Pakistani air space. Go over Russia and be at the mercy of Putin.

      Your thoughts are welcomed.

      June 25, 2012 at 2:46 am | Reply
  2. krm1007 ©™

    Pakistan appears to have made a very thoughtful democratic and parliamentarian decision with regards to issues at hand with USA. It was very disingenuous for Panetta to make comments such as he did in India knowing well that Pakistanis don't have much respect for Indians. He probably took a calculated risk and the reply message from Pakistan was pack your negotiating team and get out of Pakistan. For a global power to pick a fight with such a time tested ally such as Pakistan is indicative that American foreign policy has been hijacked. It is Jimmy Carter deja vu all over again.

    June 14, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Reply
    • Maverick

      Well said! Unfortunately American Foriegn Policy has been under heavy influence of the Indian Lobby (recently) and the NY lobby (historically).

      June 14, 2012 at 9:49 pm | Reply
      • Muhammad

        both comments very well said.

        a democratic govt (even as imperfect as PPP/Zardari) is eventually answerable to the people and hence has to take a stand somewhere.

        this is the reason USA has historically supported dictators/monarchies so they can bribe them and get geo political favours which democratic government can never do.

        June 15, 2012 at 3:44 am |
  3. Shubs

    To all on the forum trying to argue / talk sense into the Pakistanis on this forum, take it from us Indians, forced by a quirk of history to forever be the unfortunate neighbors of this so-called country, it is a waste of time. Pakistanis, either by mental conditioning, or by some freaky side effect of their state religion, believe there is only one way to live your life...in complete denial. They will perpetrate the worst that human nature has to offer, and then deny it with straight faces till the cows come home. They will deny it ever occurred, they will demand evidence, they will lay out long complicated conspiracy theories, they will blame history, geography, nature, imaginary enemies of the land-of-the-pure, imaginary enemies of their religion, they will even blame their own fate, but they will never ever look into the mirror and admit, even to themselves, what a cesspool of pure hatred, narrow mindedness and extremism that their country has become. You can only hope to contain them. You can never change them.
    The fact that the United States is finally seeing this reality, believe me, is welcomed by the rest of the world.

    June 14, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Reply
    • mimi

      well how about looking at ur society in ur society a cow is more worth than a human life.. even tho i see all life as equal.. i have to say u dont even know what a life means, ur country treats the women poorer than any poher country on earth, yesterday was an international paper published about that... india is on the last place which has teh most violence agaisnt women. so ..... u have really nothing to brag about and another thing the poor people are getting poorer and some rich people are getting richer.. wow what a success.. so much economy boom but only the sam epeopel get profit out of it...... and the whole nature is filled with trash in ur country... shame on u.

      June 14, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Reply
    • mimi

      btw teh us is responsible for teh developement in those areas...their bombing really helped them progress or not??

      June 14, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Reply
      • Shubs

        Yes maam. India is perhaps the most dangerous place for a girl child, just by pure numbers. India is not heaven on earth. There are a lot of problems. But nobody in India is in denial about them, neither the government, nor the people. And that's how you fix problems, by accepting that they exist in the first place.
        Pakistanis need to stop this false bravado, they need to accept that the only visible export from their country these past few decades has been international terrorism. They need to wake up and see that hatred for other religions, this unspeakable disdain they have for India and the West, needs to stop. It hasn't got them anywhere these past six decades of their existence as a country, and it's only fetching them misery now.
        Going on and on about how they have been 'wronged', how the world is out to get them...and I'm talking about government statements and actions, not readers' comments in news sites, is counter-productive, and shows its immaturity as a nation state. Pull up your socks and fix your own problems, instead of blaming others or pointing out others faults instead, if you want to be taken seriously in the international community.

        June 14, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
  4. Muhammad

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    June 14, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Reply
  5. Reprinted With Permission ©

    It appears to me that Muslims are the fastest growing segment of world society today. As others are withering away the Muslims seem to be rising again with their contributions as was the case historically when they ruled India and Europe and left behind a legacy of science, art, architecture, culinary et al. One only needs to go to Spain and India to witness this. As immigrants, it is a good thing to be aware of your glorious heritage and be connected with it. The Italian immigrants do it as do the Germans, Polish, Jewish, Hispanic and many other cultures. What really pleasantly surprised me was what I witnessed in the Middle East. A tolerant society that has come so far in a few years. Most importantly providing job and economic opportunities to all, Hindus/Indians, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Europeans, Americans, Africans, South Americans, Chinese, and Russians etc. Never have I witnessed such openness and equal opportunities unless you go back to the times of Muslim rule in India and Spain. My conclusion is that the Muslims get it. They are striving to once again take their leadership role in the world order and take this civilization to its next level of excellence. The climb to success and progress is not a linear curve but a stochastic one. Let us join in wishing our Muslim brethren well and much success in their endeavors. If we can't help them let's not pull the rug from under them.

    June 14, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Reply
    • Muhammad

      thats a great post, thank you brother

      June 14, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Reply
      • andrews

        Thanks for gd laugh bro ... made my day 😉

        June 14, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • mimi

      they never ruled, the otoman empire ruled only parts of Europe but those people were different than the people of today, they had freedom of religion for example.. nowadays they have sharia in some countries, but anyway there is no muslim world, they have different cultures and so on...

      it doesn't matter which religion u can use religion as an excuse for what u do, but in the end, either u r a tyrant imperialist and oppressor, or a noble free spirit.

      June 14, 2012 at 6:20 pm | Reply
      • Muhammad

        🙂 what you don’t appreciate is that Islamic world is going thru its version of the dark ages – just like Europeans did, our enlightenment/ renaissance will be MUST be of our making not a copy of western experience. and Many in Islamic world now recognise the solution is to go back to the roots of Islam and follow the principles that made us once great and will again God willing.

        do not make the mistake for taking today’s Muslims/ Islam as its practiced now to be the true Islam, for that look back in history

        June 15, 2012 at 3:36 am |
  6. Ed

    The US did nothing wrong, so it would be wrong for Obama to apologize. Pakistan fired at NATO helicopters first – that was wrong. Pakistan hid terrorists like OBL, al Libi – that was wrong. Pakistan is still hiding Haqqanis – that is wrong. Pakistan did many wrong things. Pakistan should apologize.

    June 14, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Reply
    • Muhammad

      That’s bit of a BS – USA fired across our boarders, our soldiers fired warning shots in response. It’s been admitted by US investigation. their 'excuse' is that they did not have coordinates of our location – which they had been given and somehow misunderstood – BS – I don’t believe that in this age of GPS every ware. It was a deliberate massacre

      June 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Reply
      • Roger Smith

        Crap. First of all, Pakistan has no real borders. Certainly none that it controls except part of the Indian-Pakistan borders. When you people start acting like a real country and keep bad guys away from your so-called border, maybe we will consult you before we rightly kill these bad guys. Pakistan is a sick joke.

        June 14, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
      • Muhammad

        More BS.

        Fact is it only takes 5 Billion Dollars (couple of weeks worth of US war effort in AFG) to completely fence off boarders with Pakistan so nobody gets in or out of Afghanistan, but USA won’t do it despite repeated calls from Pakistan – because this will take the blame game away from US.

        Fact is US has lost to a handful of Taliban fighters, and it keeps scapegoating its failures on Pakistan.

        June 14, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
      • NateHale

        M,

        Dude, ya gotta quit shillin' for GHQ....

        June 14, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
  7. krm1007 ©™

    Due to the prevailing political climate in USA and in election mode, the apology appears to be forthcoming after preventive measures are put in place to minimize political outfall, polls are conducted to gage the effect and a face saving exit from Afghanistan has been figured out. It is a matter of time. Meantime, it will be a gesture of utmost magnanimity and generosity by Pakistan to continue to enable friends and allies to achieve common goals by offering their resources and stand with them shoulder to shoulder. This is what separates men from boys. However, there should be no more free lunches. Pakistan has paid a disproportionate share of costs both in lives and kind in fighting this terror war to make USA, the World and its neighbors safe. Enough is enough.

    June 14, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Reply
  8. krm1007 ©™

    Across all religions and cultures it is a basic tenet of human decency that human lives are valued and apologies are offered to the aggrieved by those responsible for the deaths. It nothing more, the words of apology are soothing to the families of those who died. In this case, Pakistan's contention is that Afghan forces and Indian intelligence deliberately provided misleading information to US/NATO forces and used them to kill 24 Pakistani paramilitary soldiers.

    June 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Reply
  9. mimi

    How noble of the united states of America that they dont apologize if they kill their allies troops (sarcasme).. i think the united states is like the roman empire evil to its core.. at least their government is. Obama plays with his friends when they have branch in the white house's garden, the "drone game" ..it goes like that:. he throws the coin, if he guessed right he pushes the button and kills some civilians in strange countries at the end of the world if not he throws it again.. and so on........ wow how civilized the american government is and all its supporters....... and the pakistani government betrays their own people ( like very government) cause it helps the american regime to kill inncoent civilians ... no wonder that the people turn to the taliban, cause at least the taliban and other religios idiots try to defend against the drones and the bombing........ so thr point is that the us has sacrificed its own people to destroy other countries and other peoples life.... good job us u fell deep o so deep....

    June 14, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Reply
  10. Vikrant Kotak

    USA should not apologize to Pakistan on this issue or any future strikes also. Pakistan has been fooling USA by stating publicly that they are USA ally in fight against terrorism. But the truth is that it is secretly and fully supporting the Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists which is indirectly leading to deaths of NATO soldiers. SO USA NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE, BUT NOW DONT EVER BELIEVE PAKISTAN AND CARRY OUT STRIKES AT WILL

    June 14, 2012 at 10:09 am | Reply
    • Muhammad

      🙂 if by terrorism you mean freedom fighters in Kashmir than we openly support it – it is truly JIHAD (religious right and duty of Muslims to defend themselves). It is no different to USA supporting Libyan and Syrian freedom fighters.

      If by terrorism you mean anyone who kills civilians and innocents then we vehemently oppose this, this has nothing to do with Islam. Al Qaida's philosophy is an abomination to Islamic concept of Jihad.

      June 14, 2012 at 10:24 am | Reply
  11. alidongfong

    Who started the first world war ?. . .Muslims ?
    Who started the second world war ?. . .Muslims ?
    Who killed about 20 millions of Aborigines in Australia ?. . . Muslims ?
    Who sent the nuclear bombs of Hiroshima and Nakazaki ?. . . Muslims?
    Who killed more than 100 millions of Indians in North America ?. . Muslims ?
    Who killed more than 50 millions of Indians in south America ?. . . Muslims ?
    Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves,
    and 88% of them died and was thrown in Atlantic ocean ?. . . Muslims ?
    Who killed 6 million Jews in Germany?. . . Muslims?
    Who killed 1 million of Iraqui ?. . . Muslims ?
    Who's doing drone attack in Pakistan soil ,
    killing thousand & thousand of innocents per days ?. . . Muslims ?
    Who killed Thousand & thousand of Afghans in the name of Terror & democracy ?

    MUSLIM ???
    ISLAM MEANS PEACE. .

    June 14, 2012 at 9:34 am | Reply
    • Ibrahim

      Enough said "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide#The_Adana_Massacre_of_1909"

      June 14, 2012 at 9:51 am | Reply
      • Muhammad

        a deeply shameful and regrettable incident to which whole Muslim world should APOLOGISE to Armenians.

        However, that said, Muslims are one forth of world’s population, and there is only a handful of such incidents you can attribute towards them – a fraction of the genocide and shameful incidents Christianity and Western civilization are responsible for.

        June 14, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • GoresChakr

      Actually Islam means submission, not peace.

      June 14, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Reply
      • Muhammad

        both actually. 'salam' the base arabic word means peace. 'Islam' means peace thru submission to God

        June 15, 2012 at 3:31 am |
  12. rexedie

    why do we constantly fabricate the need to go into foreign countries and blow the fck out of them ?? oh, yeah i forgot; so war manufactures and contractors can stay in the business of bankrupting our country. SOS... if you manufacture weapons you have to manufacture reasons to use them, so you can make them and sell them.

    June 14, 2012 at 9:23 am | Reply
  13. krm1007 ©™

    With respect to Pakistan being responsible for all things bad happening in the neighborhood, the article is being disingenuous. If Pakistan was so influential it should be given a seat as a permanent member of UN Security Council.

    June 14, 2012 at 9:13 am | Reply
  14. krm1007 ©™

    Pakistan has tremendous potential and everyone knows it except the Pakistanis. A new layer of leadership has to emerge in all avenues to move this country forward. They don’t have to be rocket scientists… just nationalists. Pakistan has the capability of spinning on a dime. Now, does it take a wizard to figure out that people need electricity and running water to survive in this day and age? I hope not. Let’s start with this premise and the rest will fall in place.

    June 14, 2012 at 9:12 am | Reply
    • alidongfong

      i am always impressed from your,s views

      no power in this world can undo pakistan!

      June 14, 2012 at 9:33 am | Reply
      • andrews

        i talk to myself sometime too

        June 14, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  15. krm1007 ©™

    As far as Pakistan-USA relations are concerned there are none and both countries need to move on in different directions. They have not been able to develop friendship in 60 years. The biggest favor that USA can do for Pakistan is to stop all reimbursements/aid. Pakistan should stand on its feet. With the right leadership this can be achieved in 9 months.

    June 14, 2012 at 9:08 am | Reply
    • Muhammad

      agreed, end of all us aid is very important step, it does nothing more than to fill the pockets of corrupt politicians who then use it to terrorise people and exploit US at the same time.

      When we receive no aid, politicians in Pakistan will be forced to make decisions in favour of Pakistan’s national interest.

      June 14, 2012 at 9:14 am | Reply
  16. Silas Scarborough

    The US owes the whole planet an apology but it won't matter much longer as the country is going to drown in its own corrupt sludge.

    June 14, 2012 at 9:01 am | Reply
  17. C. Hitchens

    Fine, the US will apologise for the unintentional bombing right after the US gets an apology for the Intentional harbouring of Osama Bin Laden by Pakistan.

    June 14, 2012 at 8:57 am | Reply
    • Muhammad

      that will make sense but,

      OBL wasn’t 'unintentionally' harboured by our security forces, the bastered sneaked in our country and locked himself in a mansion with his harem.

      If any Pakistani govt agency is found complacent, I will shoot the people involved first and then yes apologise to the US, but this isn’t the case, even USA agrees they can’t show any govt involvement.

      Case of OBL hiding in Pakistan is same as Nazi criminals hiding in Americas for decades. If someone keeps a low profile its very hard to find anyone. But fact is it is thru our cooperation – and telecommunication monitoring USA got the lead that lead to him.

      June 14, 2012 at 9:03 am | Reply
      • suresh

        WOW, Pakistan helps the needy... can solve the terrorist issues...

        June 14, 2012 at 10:09 am |
      • Muhammad

        🙂 would like to respond but I dont understand the comment

        June 14, 2012 at 10:26 am |
      • C. Hitchens

        Then how come the Doctor who 'betrayed' Osama is currently serving 33yrs for treason? And its abit hard to believe that osama was hidding a few miles from the military headquarters without some sort of protection. It may well be that there was no wide Pakistan government consipiracy to hide him, but it is more likely that he was under the protection of the military or at least the intelligence arm.

        June 14, 2012 at 11:22 am |
      • Muhammad

        good question.

        Have you heard of Jonathan Pillared ? The American who worked for Israeli Intelligence and now serving jail time in US.

        Fact is, no country in the world will allow its citizens to work for foreign intelligence services, let alone one that resulted in armed incursion in our territory.

        Put another that why Dr. Afraid is serving a jail sentence. Hope you get it, it aint that hard to understand.

        Now, if a Nazi criminal was hiding in USA, and Israeli govt sent in armed forces, helicopters and marines to blow him up, would you be cool with it ? I don’t think so, you would have expected Israel to respect your sovereignty and follow due process – and THAT IS OUR ISSUE WITH OBL OPERATION. Not the killing of him, I would have liked to see him killed by our security forces.

        Secondly. Your allegation about any element of Pakistan government involvement is pure speculation without evidence. If a Nazi criminal is found living in USA for past 5 decades – do you automatically conclude it is with US govt support ?????

        We are only reasonably discuss facts not fiction pre conceptions and assumptions.

        June 14, 2012 at 11:33 am |
      • C. Hitchens

        I hadn't heard of Jonathan Pillared but I googled him with no luck. I did find Jonathan Pollard, whose life seemed to fit the facts you set out so I'll assume you were you refering to him.

        This chap was stealing intelligence from US and passing it over to Israel. Our good doctor was not stealing any intelligence unless you consider having Osama in Pakistan to be valued intelligence owned by the Military.

        I agree with you that I am merely speculating with no hard evidence of the corroboration of the govt of pakistan. It just the feeling you get when you are hunting for a thief, and you find out that he has been hiding in your best friend's house and yes, he was holed in the basement, you sort of go like, 'dont you ever clean your basement?'

        I frankly dont get why the US is still beholden to Pakistan. I dont get why they spend all that tax payers money in a country that has proven one to many times that it is not an ally.

        June 14, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
      • Muhammad

        testing

        June 14, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
      • Muhammad

        for some reason I am prevented to write a full reply here.

        June 14, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
      • Muhammad

        you did not coment will you accept a similar intervention in your country by a third country to hunt a fugitive

        June 14, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
      • Muhammad

        Also, your analogy of OBL in Pakistan's basement is quite ludicrous, 170 Million people live in Pakistan, we don’t monitor everything everywhere, it’s easy to stay in a home somewhere and keep your head down and never get detected. OBL probably choose a place close to the Military academy as this would have been the least likely place anyone would have expected him to be, everyone suspected somewhere in the tribal areas or Afghanistan.

        June 14, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
      • Muhammad

        On second note, we are quite sick of the blood stained money USA pockets to corrupt politicians in Pakistan and get important decisions their way, I will be very glad to see the back of that in my country.

        June 14, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
      • Muhammad

        c h . Reply to this

        If a similar thing occurred in the USA, a third country sends in forces and hires local spies and bombs a residential area without US knowledge or approval to hunt someone on the run, would that be ok

        June 14, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
  18. Muhammad

    A View from Pakistan.

    Agree with the PatthePatriot comment above.

    The underlying issue is the mentality USA approaches the rest of the world with – the sense that they are somehow 'superior' and have more rights than others, a kind of imperialist mindset irks us in Pakistan. Fact is that 99.99 % of Pakistanis do not want anything to do with Al Qaida or USA, we see them both as terrorists, who kill innocents for made up causes and material gains.

    USA need to fundamentally appreciate they have no less or no more rights than others, an American life is worth same as an Afghan life , a Pakistani life or any other nationality.

    For backgrounds, this whole Al Qaida malarkey is the by product of USA – Soviet power struggle in our part of the world, back then these same people OBL Al Qaida Mujahidin were praised as heroes even invited to the Wile House by the USA, these people weren’t different back then, they were same as now, but only because they were fighting the soviets they were heroes ....... that phrase 'chicken coming home to roast' is probably made for situations like these. lmao

    June 14, 2012 at 8:46 am | Reply
  19. Ken2

    USA No need to apologies .....too bad innocent Pakistani being killed. Likewise, if one day Pakistan killed innocent US citizens, Pakistan also no need to apologies. .....all actions are unintentional ok.......zzzzzzz....

    June 14, 2012 at 8:37 am | Reply
  20. axby

    Pakistan needs to apologize to the US for harboring terrorists like Osama bin Laden, al Libi, KSM, etc.

    June 14, 2012 at 7:01 am | Reply
  21. patthepatriot

    For President Barack Obama, apologizing for something the United States believes was not intentional also could be politically sensitive.

    HUH ? When something is NOT intentional you DO apologize. Sometimes I just don't get the thinking process of politicians. Did you not get raised witht the same morals as most humans ? If it were my country and you killed a couple dozen of my people I'd want a lot more than an apology.

    June 14, 2012 at 6:58 am | Reply
    • Ed

      Since the US did nothing wrong, it would be wrong for Obama to apologize. Pakistan fired first. Pakistan hid the worst terrorists. Pakistan did many wrong things. Pakistan should apologize.

      June 14, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Reply

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