June 12th, 2012
06:48 PM ET

U.S. says Russian attack helicopters on way to Syria

By Pam Benson

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accused Russia of sending attack helicopters to Syria.

At a Washington think tank on Tuesday, Clinton said, "We are concerned about the latest information we have that there are attack helicopters on the way from Russia to Syria, which will escalate the conflict quite dramatically."

Clinton said the United States has repeatedly asked Russia to stop arms shipments to President Bashar al-Assad's regime, but Russia has said anything it is sending is not being used against the public unrest. "That's patently untrue," Clinton said before making the accusation about the helicopter shipments.

Clinton's comments were made at the Brookings Institution, where she was speaking alongside Israeli President Shimon Peres.

Intelligence officials refused to comment on Clinton's assertion. Washington's Russian embassy also would not comment.

But the Russian state-controlled arms trader Rosoboronexport said the firm will fulfill its arms contract with Syria, the state-owned RIA Novosti news agency said.

"No one can ever accuse Russia of violating the rules of armaments trade set by the international community," Rosoboronexport Deputy CEO Igor Sevastyanov said when asked about Russia's supply of mobile gun and missile air defense systems to Syria, RIA Novosti said.

Sevastyanov added, "The contract was signed long ago, and we supply armaments that are self-defense rather than attack weapons."

Although a Pentagon spokesman was unaware of a Russian helicopter shipment to Syria, Capt. John Kirby told reporters Tuesday al-Assad forces have been using helicopter gunships against their own people, calling the attacks "intolerable, unacceptable and just further evidence of the degree to which they are willing to kill their own people for twisted ends."

On Monday, State Department Spokesperson Victoria Nuland called the helicopter attacks on civilians a "new horrific tactic" that "constitutes a very serious escalation" of the conflict.

Russia has been the long-time principle supplier of arms to Syria since the days when it was the Soviet Union. The weapons sales have more than doubled in recent years. According to Congressional Research Service, Russia sold Syria $4.7 billion in arms from 2007 to 2010, compared to $2.1 billion from 2003 to 2006.

Nuland said the international community continues to press Russia to discontinue the weapons sales. "We are all making the point in the international community that they are on the wrong side with regard to this - this set of issues. We've had people in Moscow in the last week making these points again and we will continue to do so," Nuland said.

Earlier this month, Clinton said the continued supply of arms from Russia has strengthened the al-Assad regime, despite denials by Russian President Vladimir Putin that any munitions it was providing to Syria were being used against its own people.

The Obama administration is also being criticized for its relationship with a Russian arms broker that is a major supplier of weapons to Syria.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, sent a letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta on Monday, criticizing the Department of Defense's decision to award an Army contract to Rosoboronexport to buy helicopters for the Afghanistan military. "I remain deeply troubled that the DoD would knowingly do business with a firm that has enabled mass atrocities in Syria," Cornyn wrote. "Such actions by Rosoboronexport warrant the renewal of U.S. sanctions against it, not a billion dollar DoD contract." Cornyn asked for an audit of the Pentagon's contract with the Russian company.

Human Rights First also issued a statement saying the Army contract with Rosoboronexport is "out of step" with U.S. policy to stop atrocities in Syria and called on the American government to bar any U.S. entities, including contractors, from doing business with the company.

CNN's Barbara Starr and Jill Dougherty contributed to this report.

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  1. South African in Australia

    I was quite shocked to hear how the US DOD is happy to do business with the same Russian company selling weapons to Assad. It just shows that the morality of any country is as shallow as it's pockets are full. It is a disgrace actually. We all have our opinions and choose sides but the truth is that there are really only two sides..innocent civilians being killed and politicians looking after their own interests, the rest is just semantics.

    June 16, 2012 at 7:41 am | Reply
  2. Marine5484

    I'd thank Hilary Clinton to stop insulting our intelligence by expecting us to believe her mumbo-jumbo story about Russia sending in helicoptors to aid Bahar al-Assad. Even if they did, that would be none of our business anyway. Besides, if the French as so worried about it, then let them sort it out, not us!!!

    June 13, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Reply
    • Louis

      you are right, US doesnt stop selling weapons to cartels in mexico, so why is she so upset?

      June 13, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Reply
      • AngryJew

        Ha! Very good point.

        June 13, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • Dave

      2 words.....STINGER MISSILES.......

      June 16, 2012 at 7:01 am | Reply
  3. Ryan

    The Russians fully understand whats going on. . . Why is it when we see people blow up military tanks in Iraq it is terrorism. . but when the same people do it in Syria we call them heroes? The government is not killings its people. . the media is a strong thing. What it comes down to is Syria has money outside of the Feds reach. . yeah I just went there.

    June 13, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Reply
    • George Patton

      Quite true Ryan, quite true.

      June 13, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Reply
  4. WakeTheWorld

    Since when does the United States Military provide support to the Muslim Brotherhood and al qaeda?
    This is not about freedom and democracy for the Syrian people, this is about pay back. Assad crossed the line when he referred to the Saudi's as "half-men". The gulf states want Assad out. Maybe the royal saudi family, Qatar, and UAE will prove Assad wrong and commit their own troops to remove Assad. Not likly to happen because Assad is right, they are "half-men", they want us to do it. The Gulf states don't even know how to operate the weapons we sell them. They need us and Israel to either fly the the jets or operate their air defense systems. they are such a joke, all that oil and money and half of the gulf population is illiterate. You want Assad out, YOU do it! No AMERICAN BLOOD! SAUDI BLOOD.

    June 13, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Reply
    • AngryJew

      Screw Israel.

      June 13, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Reply
      • WakeTheWorld


        June 13, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • AngryJew

      Apartheid Israel is the biggest threat to peace in the ME.

      June 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Reply
      • WakeTheWorld

        Israel is a democracy for Jews, not for Muslims or Christians. Israel is Jewish, not Arab, not American, not French.
        Israel is for Jews, period. You want freedom as a Muslim, leave the Arab world and immigrate to America. Wait, that's a bit hard now since you Sunni crazies are crashing planes into buildings. So leave Israel out of this.

        June 13, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
      • AngryJew

        A theocracy is not a democracy. Go check a dictionary in case you are confused. There were Christians and Muslims and others living in all of Palestine and today's Israel long before the new European and American immigrants set foot on the land. Is America solely for white Neo-Nazis?

        June 13, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
  5. streetheat

    Mildred! Fetch me a box of double ought and start boardin' up them winders! Us and them Ruskies are goin' fer the big one!

    June 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Reply
  6. marctheduck

    I'm a conservative and I will give Hillary credit for one thing: she does seem to be answering the 2am call. Unfortunately it doesn't look like the rest of this administration wants her to.

    June 13, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Reply
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      Let's face it, if this administration is going to bypass the UN and intervene in Syria militarily like President Clinton did in Bosnia, President Obama would need a majority vote from congress! But as we all know, for four years that has been a problem where the right has been a deliberate obstacle to this administration getting things done! I believe President Obama handled the 3AM call well when it came to taking out OBL simply because he didn't need the republicans approval to send SEAL TEAM 6 in to get the job done! There's a big difference here!

      June 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Reply
      • JJ

        Dude, you have to be the biggest loser ever.....still blaming the right for obamas failures....and NO, he did not answer the 3am call....the seals have been hunting osama for years....they found and killed him not your lover obama....you fairy

        June 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
      • read2012

        JJ you dumb redneck, the reason we're in this clusterphuck of a mess is bc Dubya's incompetent *ss didn't stay in Afghanistan like he should have. Instead, the ex-coke snorter went into Iraq bc Saddam tried to kill his daddy. You should know about being a fairy you pickle-smoker. Look up once in a while and pay attention.

        June 13, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
  7. Billy 56

    Predator drones armed with hellfire and sidewinder missles, drop the choppers, blow the tanks. No boots on the ground, let the rebels do the work.

    June 13, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Reply
    • Stan


      June 13, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Reply
    • Stan


      June 13, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Reply
      • JV

        Let's see the proof that they are terrorists...I'll give you 500 years to come up with it. D-bag

        June 13, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
      • kommy

        An excellent point!

        June 13, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
      • Brahms


        Report: Rebels Responsible for Houla Massacre
        By John Rosenthal, National Review, June 9, 2012 4:00 A.M.

        According to a new report in Germany’s leading daily, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), the Houla massacre was in fact committed by anti-Assad Sunni militants, and the bulk of the victims were member of the Alawi and Shia minorities, which have been largely supportive of Assad. For its account of the massacre, the report cites opponents of Assad, who, however, declined to have their names appear in print out of fear of reprisals from armed opposition groups.

        According to the article’s sources, the massacre occurred after rebel forces attacked three army-controlled roadblocks outside of Houla. The roadblocks had been set up to protect nearby Alawi majority villages from attacks by Sunni militias. The rebel attacks provoked a call for reinforcements by the besieged army units. Syrian army and rebel forces are reported to have engaged in battle for some 90 minutes, during which time “dozens of soldiers and rebels” were killed.

        “According to eyewitness accounts,” the FAZ report continues,

        the massacre occurred during this time. Those killed were almost exclusively from families belonging to Houla’s Alawi and Shia minorities. Over 90% of Houla’s population are Sunnis. Several dozen members of a family were slaughtered, which had converted from Sunni to Shia Islam. Members of the Shomaliya, an Alawi family, were also killed, as was the family of a Sunni member of the Syrian parliament who is regarded as a collaborator. Immediately following the massacre, the perpetrators are supposed to have filmed their victims and then presented them as Sunni victims in videos posted on the internet.

        The FAZ report echoes eyewitness accounts collected from refugees from the Houla region by members of the Monastery of St. James in Qara, Syria. According to monastery sources cited by the Dutch Middle East expert Martin Janssen, armed rebels murdered “entire Alawi families” in the village of Taldo in the Houla region.

        Already at the beginning of April, Mother Agnès-Mariam de la Croix of the St. James Monastery warned of rebel atrocities’ being repackaged in both Arab and Western media accounts as regime atrocities. She cited the case of a massacre in the Khalidiya neighborhood in Homs. According to an account published in French on the monastery’s website, rebels gathered Christian and Alawi hostages in a building in Khalidiya and blew up the building with dynamite. They then attributed the crime to the regular Syrian army. “Even though this act has been attributed to regular army forces . . . , the evidence and testimony are irrefutable: It was an operation undertaken by armed groups affiliated with the opposition,” Mother Agnès-Mariam wrote.

        June 13, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • S Crow

      We need to STAY OUT OF IT......cant you see what is happening here. Russia and China WANT us buried in the Middle Eastern rubble for decades.......Only so we go broke, and keep the presure OFF them. PLEASE; for god's sake, try to use you brain to see the bigger picture. Syria IS NOT OUR PROBLEM.......The rest of the world, including Iran WANT IT TO BE OUR PROBLEM.....We would be walking right into their hands.

      No matter what we did in the Middle East, it would turn out crap anyway, we cant win even if we got Assad out.....two example: Egypt, Libya. It is a lose-lose. Let the Middle Eastern countries fix it

      June 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Reply
    • AngryJew

      A video just surfaced where an Al Qaeda leader shows support for the rebels in Syria. We support the rebels in Syria. We are on the same side as Al Qaeda. hmmmmmm........

      June 13, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Reply
  8. Texan

    Apparently the Secretary hasn't noticed that Mi-24 Hind are available on the internet, from several eastern european countries.

    June 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Reply
  9. Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

    What are the chances of Assad surviving after the November election in the US? Zero! He'd better shore up his defense now because no matter who is in the White House after this election, Assad will be removed by force! My message to Assad is you are fighting a losing cause! Your days are numbered and even Russia can't save you when the US gives its military the green light to remove you!

    June 13, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Reply
    • Brahms

      Why do you support the Muslim Brotherhood over a secular government?

      June 13, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Reply
  10. Ben

    Russian copters in a foreign land used against civilians? I think John Rambo has something to say about all this.

    June 13, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Reply
    • Richard V 5t0ckng

      Elect me king of the world...I'd fix most of it in a day...and the rest by the end of the week...simply by being...practical.

      June 13, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Reply
    • Stan



      June 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Reply
  11. wolfpackbob

    "...the Department of Defense's decision to award an Army contract to Rosoboronexport to buy helicopters ..." WTH?
    America spending on Russian military equipment? That must be wrong on several levels as it is not right on any that make any common sense.

    June 13, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Reply
  12. Rick Santorum

    Good thing we don't vote for politicians in the USA based on their religion or skin color.

    June 13, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Reply
  13. Poul D.

    The United States plans to buy 21 Mi-17 helicopters for the Afghan military from Russia's Rosoboronexport by 2016. The contract totals $375 million by 2016, with an option to buy additional aircraft worth $550 million. Why has this contract not been stopped yet? Why not buy US helicopters since it is our taxes that are being used (wasted)?

    June 13, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Reply
    • AlexShch

      Because this is the best option among the available.

      June 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Reply
    • MrT

      Because that old Societ stuff is easier and cheaper to maintain than the American stuff.

      June 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Reply
      • MrT


        June 13, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • guest

      wouldn't 21 outdated Russian helicopters be better than only being able to buy one US made Apache for the same price?

      June 13, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Reply
      • AlexShch

        The short answer is "yes, in that conditions".

        At first, Apache is not counterpart of Mi-17: these two are designed for different purposes - Apache is attack and can carry only pilot and co-pilot; no payload other than weapons; Mi-17 is versatile transport/utility/whatever machine. The closest US counterpart of Mi-17 is Blackhawk. While Blackhawk is the most numerous helicopter in the US Army, have you seen US army using Blackhawk helicopters in Afghanistan? The answer is "NO". In fact, the most commonly used helicopter there is Chinook, which was intended to be heavy lift, but ended up being the only one among US-made in universal use by US troops. The reason is simple: Afghanistan is "too high and too hot" for Blackhawk and for Apache, leaving US troops with the only option - Chinook used with reduced payload.

        Given Afghan conditions, Mi-17 is absolutely superior to Blackhawk.

        For the same reason Soviet Mi-24 is superior to Apache (despite the coolest electronics onboard) in Afghanistan. This comparison may be lead to a different outcome if the conditions are Arizona desert close to sea-level in the middle of the night, but Afghanistan is nowhere close to sea level. Besides, Afghans did not ask for a dedicated attach helicopter.

        Soviet Mi-26 is superior to Chinook in Afghan (and in fact in any) conditions.

        So while the $375 million for 21 Mi-17 paid by US taxpayers is still kind of punitive, $18M per machine - I believe, Hugo Chaves got his Mi-17 for something like $6M each - it is still the best deal. Anything US-made would be simultaneously less capable and more expensive.

        June 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
      • AlexShch

        P.S. Just elect a more competent and more professional Secretary of State next time, and the deal will be better.

        June 13, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • Chad L

      Why give them the highend stuff we don't want anyone to be on our level of military hardware. Give them them something to defend themselves with but it doesn't need to be the top of the line military hardware of the US military.

      June 13, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Reply
  14. Brian

    We need to look at this a different way...why are we not selling Syria helicopters?... let's be honest Americans..you could really care less about the people of Syria. You care more that your gas is over $4 a gallon and the economy is stagnant. So why not sell the Syrian govt. some surplus military hardware...our old helicopters are better then Russias new stuff and we could price things favorably for bulk sales. What we do does not matter anyways...If we intervene we are bullies and the Muslims will hate us for treading on the "holy land"...if we do not intercede we are heartless and uncaring of the Muslim world....I say who gives a damn about them and show me the money....Syria can do what they will...just pay cash...no credit for you.

    June 13, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Reply
    • wolfpackbob

      That is a lie. Our politicians are cowards and corrupt but our men and women are coming home without limbs from Iran and Iraq. Our blood spilled and treasure spent by the regular folks on behalf of other regular folks on the other side of the world is not about gas prices and the stagnant economy and you have crossed the line to suggest otherwise.

      June 13, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Reply
  15. Plain and Simple

    America needs to repair itself before it tries to do anything anywhere. We are not some ideal country as the conservative nationalists constanly say, we are broken and getting worse. We are falling apart. Why CNN is so eager for us to get involved in this as opposed to looking at everything in our own country that needs to be corrected is beyond me.

    June 13, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Reply
  16. Inciteful

    Even if Russia's statement about "defensive" purposes were true, the bottom line is that Russia is preparing Syria to defend itself against the potential military intervention by international forces. Who were the geniuses that made the U.S. space program dependent on Russia for the next 5+ years?

    June 13, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Reply
    • AlexShch

      Yes, to defend or deter such intervention.

      June 13, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Reply
    • WakeTheWorld

      He is your president, B. Hussein Obama.

      June 13, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Reply
  17. GBucello

    Not surprising: Russia and its predecessor, the Soviet Union, have a legacy of exporting violence. Their weapons are literally in every corner of the globe, and were proliferated with almost no discretion. It’s a shame to see that they still are (much as the US had done as well, with arming of anticommunist rebels during the Cold War). http://bit.ly/LWHjGC

    June 13, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
  18. Stan

    Hillary is lying again. Show me the proof – c'mon Hillary.


    "Collateral murder" on YouTube – someone's helicopters strafing civilians.

    June 13, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Reply
  19. Bobby

    Both sides being rearmed now so let the intense fighting begin. Everyone should have stayed on the sidelines but oh no they couldn't do that.Now there will be 100x more deaths than before

    June 13, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Reply
  20. AlCourts


    June 13, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Reply
    • Stan

      what is this? Some religious crap? go drown yourself.

      June 13, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Reply
      • AngryJew

        lol...Alternatively you could repeatedly strike your face with you own foot. Is that possible?

        June 13, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
  21. Bob

    Our forces should destroy the Helicopters as each one lifts off for it's first flight.

    June 13, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Reply
    • Brahms

      Those helicopters may protect innocent Christian lives from Islamic jihadists.

      June 13, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Reply
    • Like a BOSS

      What forces? We do not have any military assets on the ground in Syria.

      June 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Reply
    • Bobby

      Complete and total nonsense ;-)

      June 13, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
  22. AlexShch

    I think Hillary should be more specific on this. Yesterday she says that "We have information that a new shipping of gunship helicopters in underway from Russia..." This is a serious accusation, but making a void accusation of such gravity achieves nothing other than just undermining Hillary's own credibility.

    Russia did not ship helicopters to Syria for several years. Russia admits recent shipping of anti-aircraft surface-to-air missiles as well as ground-based anti-ship cruise missiles (as far as I cat tell, the latter are coastal defence systemns known as "Redut"). All shipping is made under contracts signed several years ago. The Russian claim that these weapons have no use in a civil conflict even under "wildest imagination" appears to be technically true thus far.

    Regarding the the recent video of the use of helicopters in Syria (I saw two different videos, one here on CNN and another one on youtube) all what we see is a Mi-8 helicopter flying and dispensing anti-heat-seeking flares. If, after watching these videos, we are supposed to believe that these periodic flashes are missiles launched in a "vicious attack against civilians", then CNN should stop treating its audience as idiots. These types of helicopters are for transport, they are not gunships, and they may have only a 7.62mm machine guns installed in a manner as guns on Hue helicopters during Vietnam war, mainly for self defense.

    June 13, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Reply
  23. rickp530

    It was just a couple of days ago when Russia warned that there would be severe consquences if any nation interferred with Syria. What are they doing? Sanctions against Russia should come about if they do not pull their helicopeters out and quit sending arms to the Syrian government.

    June 13, 2012 at 12:28 pm | Reply
    • glennrobert

      Sanctions on Russia? The only country that can completely destroy the US. in less than two hours. We must be very careful who we threaten. We no longer rule the world we just think we do!

      June 13, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Reply
      • JJ

        And the US can completely destroy russia in one hour...........dummy

        June 13, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • AlexShch

      Don't worry about sanctions. Russia already fully covered by a thick and dusty layer of US-imposed sanctions dating back to Jackson-Vanick Act of 1972 among others. Imposing more sanctions at this point would only hurt NASA's ability to launch astronauts and several US private businesses, including commercial companies launching communication satellites.

      June 13, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Reply
  24. Aaron Chaney

    Covetousness is a sin. Translation: Tunisia only has received proper remuneration during the so-called Arab Spring because they are an original. All the rest i.e. Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain and yes Syria, are all covetous copycats.

    June 13, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Reply
  25. Rob

    After reading the comments on this tribune, I decided to go to the zoo. At least there, the primates aren't so idiotic.
    These tribunes are utterly useless, they only contribute to the general dumbing down of American society...

    June 13, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Reply
    • AlexShch

      I recommend you to visit LA Zoo and spend some time watching the great colony of chimpanzee. Just observe their behavior. There is a clear leader or two and sometimes they make sounds like running an election campaign, having a political debate, or accusing each other of something.

      June 13, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Reply
  26. Russ

    We are in talks with Iran over nuclear issues. If we were to go into Syria, those talks would collapse. So, what is more important? Going into another middle east country, from which we might have a hard time getting out, or stopping Iran from developing nuclear weapons which would threaten Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the whole area. The way this should be done is covertly. We can supply the rebels through third parties, while at the same time squeezing Assad with sanctions and applying pressure to his allies.

    June 13, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Reply
    • AlexShch

      There is definitely merit is what you said.

      The problem (for Hillary) is that during the talks with Iran within last month some progress have been achieved and tensions have been eased. This is not what you see/hear from CNN (except, perhaps that the oil prices are doing down), but Hillary has one less subject to brag about.

      June 13, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Reply
    • nukes deter

      get over the Iran nukes fear. let them have them. No country with nuclear capability has ever used them except the U.S., look at the middle east countries that have them now. since going nuclear none of them have had a major war. why? nuclear weapons deter. Iran is crazy, but not dumb. No different than the cold war. We despised the communists, but did either side ever use their nuclear weapons? Now we don't know what to do with them. LOL!

      June 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm | Reply
      • JJ

        You need to study your history....Israel had nukes in 73 and the muslim terrorist nations still went to war with her....dummy

        June 13, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • Bob B

      I think that all parties involved are getting weapons from their third party country or private arms dealers.

      June 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Reply
    • glennrobert

      How has Iran become the big threat. They have not started a war out side of their boundaries in over two hundred years. Oh! Maybe I should ask Israel.

      June 13, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Reply
  27. Russ

    Time to arm the opposition with Stingers, like we did in Afghanistan, when the Russians were there.

    June 13, 2012 at 11:58 am | Reply
    • AlexShch

      ....And congratulations for you yourself got stuck in Afghanistan for over 10 years!

      June 13, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Reply
  28. streetsurgeon

    I see here people are condemning the U.S. Government for not acting on these atrocities but had our government done something about it these very same people would say that we had over stepped our bounds. That we were the world police and that we should stay out of their business. The U.S. Government, and our military forces are constantly expected to keep the worlds tyrants in check because God/Allah knows no one else will do ANYTHING. Those of you that just mock and comment well, you would do nothing but type on your keyboards anyway.

    June 13, 2012 at 11:52 am | Reply
    • Nate

      Former Marine here. Our foreign policy is idiotic, wasteful and dangerous. We should stay out of Syria and withdraw from the region entirely.

      June 13, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Reply
      • glennrobert

        Former Grunt, Korea 1953, been shot it. You are absolutely RIGHT!

        June 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
  29. WakeTheWorld

    Our President Mr B. Hussein obama met with:

    (AP) White House officials met this week with envoys from the Muslim Brotherhood, in the latest sign that the Islamist group is returning to prominence in post-Mubarak Egypt after years in political exile.

    White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said representatives from the organization met with "mid-level" officials from the National Security Council in Washington.

    The meeting was held Tuesday, though it's unclear whether they met at the White House or elsewhere in the capital.

    The Obama administration cast the decision to meet with Brotherhood representatives as a reflection of political reality in the country, since the group will play a "prominent role" in Cairo going forward.

    "We have broadened our engagement to include new and emerging political parties and actors," Carney said Thursday. "Because of the fact that Egypt's political landscape has changed, the actors have become more diverse and our engagement reflects that. The point is that we will judge Egypt's political actors by how they act - not by their religious affiliation."

    He also noted that Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham met with the Brotherhood on a visit to Egypt.

    The Brotherhood was officially banned under Hosni Mubarak before he was overthrown, though it continued to be a force in Egyptian politics. The Brotherhood has past ties to terror group Hamas and espouses the implementation of Shariah law.

    But the Brotherhood, which says it is committed to nonviolence, returned to win control of the country's parliament in post-Mubarak elections.

    And despite saying earlier it would not put up a presidential candidate, the Brotherhood over the weekend nominated a prominent businessman to run.

    The United States, though, has not condemned the move. Administration officials have told The New York Times they were actually optimistic about the nomination - as he could pose a challenge to another hard-line Islamist candidate now leading the race.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/05/muslim-brotherhood-envoys-met-with-white-house-officials-in-dc/#ixzz1xgkeg3AA

    June 13, 2012 at 11:46 am | Reply
    • Brahms

      The Muslim Brotherhood supporters (95% of commenters) won't like this.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:47 am | Reply
    • A10

      Funny you cite Foxnews. LOL

      June 13, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Reply
      • Brahms

        Funny that the article is from the German press; funny that CNN doesn't carry the piece.

        June 13, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
  30. Disgusted

    Meanwhile, the US government does nothing while the Syrian people get slaughtered. I guess Syria doesn't have as much oil as Libya. The people of the free world should be ashamed of themselves.

    June 13, 2012 at 11:43 am | Reply
    • Robert

      The people of the free world are tired of taking down tyrants only to install new ones. You're welcome now move on.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:49 am | Reply
    • WakeTheWorld

      I would not say our government is doing nothing, they are very busy meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood! Wake up folks!!

      June 13, 2012 at 11:51 am | Reply
      • glennrobert

        So, we should ignore them if they end up running the country? The British talked to the Irgun and Mosad after the mess in Israel became a government.

        June 13, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
    • Brahms

      Well, the U.S. governemnt is supplying arms and mercenaries to the Islamic Jiahidists who are slaughtering Syrian Christians – that's somehting right?

      June 13, 2012 at 11:54 am | Reply
    • yourmom

      you idoit Al Qeada supports the free syrian army. so if we help out the people we are supporting the terrorist group we've been fighting the last 10 years with firearms and ammunition, if we help the government we are supporting a genocide. thats why the US is not intervening with this conflict.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply
  31. احمد

    الموت آمريكا

    June 13, 2012 at 11:41 am | Reply
    • Frank Kline

      The people of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, Yemen, etc. are now and have always been Gutless Cowards. This is an ARAB problem. With all their money and military fire power they could put an end to this. However, they won't. They sit back and complain about the USA, Israel, Christians, and British but do absolutely NOTHING on there own. They did nothing in Bosnia when Serbs were killing Muslims. They left it to NATO to solve issue. To hell with Arabs!

      June 13, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Reply
      • glennrobert

        People who will die for what they believe are not "GUTLESS COWARDS" Now take your meds. As Churchill said "talk,talk,talk is better than shoot,shoot shoot" Israel had better figure out how to negotiate. The politics is totally different now than it was a year ago.

        June 13, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • NudeTruth

      I don't like our Government's Foreign policy either but I love my Country.

      June 13, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Reply
  32. WakeTheWorld

    Report: Rebels Responsible for Houla Massacre
    By John Rosenthal, National Review, June 9, 2012 4:00 A.M.

    According to a new report in Germany’s leading daily, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), the Houla massacre was in fact committed by anti-Assad Sunni militants, and the bulk of the victims were member of the Alawi and Shia minorities, which have been largely supportive of Assad. For its account of the massacre, the report cites opponents of Assad, who, however, declined to have their names appear in print out of fear of reprisals from armed opposition groups.

    According to the article’s sources, the massacre occurred after rebel forces attacked three army-controlled roadblocks outside of Houla. The roadblocks had been set up to protect nearby Alawi majority villages from attacks by Sunni militias. The rebel attacks provoked a call for reinforcements by the besieged army units. Syrian army and rebel forces are reported to have engaged in battle for some 90 minutes, during which time “dozens of soldiers and rebels” were killed.

    “According to eyewitness accounts,” the FAZ report continues,

    the massacre occurred during this time. Those killed were almost exclusively from families belonging to Houla’s Alawi and Shia minorities. Over 90% of Houla’s population are Sunnis. Several dozen members of a family were slaughtered, which had converted from Sunni to Shia Islam. Members of the Shomaliya, an Alawi family, were also killed, as was the family of a Sunni member of the Syrian parliament who is regarded as a collaborator. Immediately following the massacre, the perpetrators are supposed to have filmed their victims and then presented them as Sunni victims in videos posted on the internet.

    The FAZ report echoes eyewitness accounts collected from refugees from the Houla region by members of the Monastery of St. James in Qara, Syria. According to monastery sources cited by the Dutch Middle East expert Martin Janssen, armed rebels murdered “entire Alawi families” in the village of Taldo in the Houla region.

    Already at the beginning of April, Mother Agnès-Mariam de la Croix of the St. James Monastery warned of rebel atrocities’ being repackaged in both Arab and Western media accounts as regime atrocities. She cited the case of a massacre in the Khalidiya neighborhood in Homs. According to an account published in French on the monastery’s website, rebels gathered Christian and Alawi hostages in a building in Khalidiya and blew up the building with dynamite. They then attributed the crime to the regular Syrian army. “Even though this act has been attributed to regular army forces . . . , the evidence and testimony are irrefutable: It was an operation undertaken by armed groups affiliated with the opposition,” Mother Agnès-Mariam wrote.

    June 13, 2012 at 11:39 am | Reply
    • NN

      The world has known this all along, the so-called resistance elements there are murderous terrorists. Now we wonder how much are the US media being paid by US govt to keep up the public pressure with all of their highly slanted and misinformational news.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:49 am | Reply
    • Brahms

      ' CRICKETS '

      What a suprise, no comments from the "Asssad is murdering children" crowd.

      June 13, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Reply
      • Excitizen

        No, we just ignor trolls from Faux News Land.

        June 13, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
      • Brahms


        the story is from the German press

        June 13, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
  33. kommy

    They say hysteria- is a running away uterus (in Greek).

    June 13, 2012 at 11:30 am | Reply
  34. Brahms

    Anyone care to delve into the truth of the situation? Here's a primer

    Syria – The REAL Story - MUST SEE - CIA & MOSSAD Death Squads Exposed

    June 13, 2012 at 11:24 am | Reply
    • dozapolis

      Sources, please. A random YouTube video is not proof.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:27 am | Reply
      • Brahms

        Its first person interviews with reporters, Syrian civilians, and footage – no citations necessary since its right there on camera. If you want to stay ignorant, that's your choice.

        June 13, 2012 at 11:32 am |
      • dozapolis

        Interviewed by whom? It's easy to pay someone to pretend for the sake of propoganda.

        You need trustworthy sources, news agencies, non-crazy organizations, etc...

        You just sound like you are nuts, FYI.

        June 13, 2012 at 11:49 am |
      • Brahms

        I see, I'm nuts.

        Search "Rebels committed Syria massacres: German writer" – PressTV – one source, there are many.

        June 13, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
  35. Biggammo

    Enough is enough with Russia, dealing under the table to get Syria arms to massacre innocents, women and children. Nothing has changed in Russia, they are still the worlds bad guys and I think it is time for this country to put its foot down and end this once and for all. I am tired of this constant backstabbing from this overrated superpower. If we had the intentions of this criminal state we would could take over the entire planet with the military resources and technology that we posess. The world should be thankful that we (USA) are truly trying to look out for the best interests of this planet. We are not perfect and we make our mistakes but the intent is there and always will be. Russians are villainous and were never to be trusted and here they are up to their old tricks. I grew up in the cold war era, I am getting that same feeling again. Only if we knew how weak they really were we would have taken them out long ago. Let them keep pushing, we will send enough drones to darken the sun and decimate every powerhouse, water treatment plant, bridge, railway, airport, major roadway and send them back to the stone ages where they belong.....

    June 13, 2012 at 11:21 am | Reply
    • deathstalker187

      I think you may be a bit over the top there also any war with Russia will end the world as we know it. We do not have the ability to stop all of Russia's nukes.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:32 am | Reply
    • Brahms

      "massacre innocents" – maybe become informed before posting. Firstly, who are the rebels exaclty?

      June 13, 2012 at 11:33 am | Reply
      • robby

        I think with the estimated 14,000 dead civilians, 'massacring innocents' is not overstated

        June 13, 2012 at 11:58 am |
      • Brahms

        But who is responsible?

        Rebels committed Syria massacres: German writer – search it

        June 13, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • glennrobert

      You should be locked as dangerous! Go ahead and attack Russia but give me time enough to move to Tasmania. Can't think of any place further. After an attack on Russia you would have about two hours to make your peace with your God of what ever kind.

      June 13, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Reply
  36. JM

    The rebels must first find oil if they want US troops to help them. No oil, no troops. That is how it works. Things were much worse in Rwanda and Darfur, and we did nothing because there is no oil there. Maybe we will sell them some stinger missiles to counter those choppers, but even that is doubtful because they may end-up in terrorist hands. The Syrians are pretty much on their own.

    June 13, 2012 at 10:52 am | Reply
    • Cheese Wonton

      There is enough Russian and Chinese made stuff available that giving the rebel US equipment is unnecessary. Also, small shoulder fired missiles are not so effective today against helicopters if the helicopters have the latest countermeasures. Rebels might get lucky once in a while and bag one, but for the most part, chopper crews who have the right training and equipment, and who stay vigilant, can defeat most of the MANPADs out there today.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:59 am | Reply
  37. some guy

    all talk, no action. If they knew how it was being transported, most probably ships, the US Submarine fleet could have easily sunk it to the bottom of the ocean. However, if Russia found out it could have prompted Cold war 2 or WW 3. Enter Somalian pirates, if they were paid a heavy sum to attack that ship in force (40 Gun boats) it would have helped solve some of the food problem in Somalia, eliminate piracy from that region once Russia found out, help the civilians in Syria, put assad at a disadvantage.

    June 13, 2012 at 10:48 am | Reply
    • Cheese Wonton

      Somali pirates in the Mediterranean? Tell us how that works. Laughable.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:55 am | Reply
      • some guy

        Not really. The Suez Canal Authority is owned by the Egyptian state. The Egyptian military who essentially controls the government is a long time recipient of US Military aid and is considered a US ally. Im sure a payoff can be made and the right of passage bought. Pirates are know to operate as far as the straits of mallaca close to Singapore. Even ancient sail boats were used as trade ships bet ween Kerala, India and Mesopotamia, present day Iraq. Motor powered boats are quite capable. Of course im just a regular guy trying to think like a commander for US AFRICOM or the Director of the CIA. there must be other complexities involved.

        June 13, 2012 at 11:21 am |
      • JM

        Maybe they vacation in Monte Carlo :-)

        June 13, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  38. Peikovianyi

    Birds of a feather sh't together.

    June 13, 2012 at 10:47 am | Reply
  39. tj1000

    How about take a page from the 1980's and dump a bunch of shoulder fired anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons into the hands of the Syrian citizen's. I have a few scoped .30-06's along with a few thousand rounds of ammo I'd personally be glad to dontate to the cause.

    June 13, 2012 at 10:42 am | Reply
  40. Brahms

    "Twisted Ends" – I suppose that means any attempt by a government to protect the country from armed rebellion. We are so easily duped – WMD, babies thrown on floors, whatever; now, its "he's killing his own people" – how dumb is the American public? Those "people" happen to have grenade launchers.

    June 13, 2012 at 10:42 am | Reply
    • some guy

      Children are dying in that conflict dude. I dont mind if the combatants are slaughtered by the millions on both sides. But no cause or power is worth fighting for if it will lead to a child , a woman or old person's death. And if you or anyone begs to differ on that, then they should visit the nearest psychiatrist.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:01 am | Reply
      • Brahms

        Hey dude, the radical Jihadist are fighting in the city – no way around civilian death I'm afraid – ON BOTH SIDES – but you wouldn't know about that because all you read is CNN and the like.

        Are you a Sunni Muslim – must be or else you'd be supporting the Christian minority in Syria.

        June 13, 2012 at 11:08 am |
      • Dudefella

        The bleeding heart routine is very politically correct and noble, but I wonder two things:

        1: Of course you say you would, but if it was your life that was on the line to save one of these innocent victims, would you be able to jump in front of that bullet? I wonder.

        2: Do you realize that this hippie-dippy BS of "protecting civilians" and whatnot would entail supporting the overthrow of a (yes, cruel and twisted) legitimate government by rebel forces? Or that it could lead to WW3 (a worst-case scenario but not worth ignoring)?

        Think. We are not the world's police force, as glamorous and noble as it would be.

        June 13, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • dozapolis

      What, exactly, are your "sources", Brahms? You blather on about the "rebels" being Jihadists, the media covering up the truth, etc... but never cite any sources.

      Sounds to me like you are a Syrian sympathizer and are down with starving and murdering children.

      P.S. there is away around civilian casualties, don't fight.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:26 am | Reply
      • Brahms

        What are your sources for believing that the Syrian governement is purposely killing children?

        June 13, 2012 at 11:41 am |
  41. Jonathan

    Why do they never talk about the reasons behind the conflict, the different point of views between the government and the civilians.

    June 13, 2012 at 10:41 am | Reply
    • Brahms

      Good question. I would guess that doing so would generate support for Assad and we can't have that. We must support Muslims extrmists at all costs – what a crazy world (and yet read the comments, people are convinced that Assad is a maniacal killer).

      June 13, 2012 at 10:44 am | Reply
  42. citizenUSA

    Time for a blockade!

    June 13, 2012 at 10:39 am | Reply
    • Brahms

      Kind of hard to blockade the U.S. – if that's what ou mean, blockading weapons shipments to Jihadist rebels so that they can kill the Christian, Druze, and Alawite minorites.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:13 am | Reply
  43. WakeTheWorld

    We use attack helicopters against al qaeda in afghanistan, why can't the Syrians use them against al qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood? Syria is the only Arab secular country in the Middle East and the only Arab country the officially recognizes Christmas as a state holiday, unlike our so called Arab allies like Gulf states. You can build a church in Syria, not Qatar, Saudi Arabia or UAE!

    June 13, 2012 at 10:30 am | Reply
    • Brahms

      Well said. Although, "Assad is killing women and children and its gruesome" is more exciting.

      Why does the U.S. government support radical Islamic rebels ? – and why is this question not posed by any news story?

      June 13, 2012 at 10:48 am | Reply
  44. Joseph Henson

    I think the U.S. condemning Russia for possibly supplying the Syrian military with weapons is bigotry considering our government is most likely supplying the rebellion. Didn't we supply weapons to the Libyan rebellion? Didn't the U.S. just assassinate 10 SUSPECTED TERRORISTS in Yemen yesterday? How is it ok that everyone turns their heads to the daily U.S. bombings throughout the Middle-East. Honestly, I would have a different opinion if this was a just cause and about the people but our government's and our big businesses only interest in the Middle-East is based on what's buried under the sand. As I write this I'm sure the Obama administration is selling the rights to the Syrian oil fields and rebuilding projects. No attack will occur until those details have been figured out.

    June 13, 2012 at 10:26 am | Reply
    • glennrobert

      Syrian oil? None. Yes Drones are murder weapons but we are teaching the world how to make and use them. I wonder how many there are in Lebanon and who owns them?

      June 13, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Reply
  45. sonny

    I thought Russia does not want to stick its nose in some countries. Now Russia and China are the pigs of the world.

    June 13, 2012 at 10:20 am | Reply
    • Ash

      Maybe you should stick your nose in your A%$$ and stay away from politics!

      June 13, 2012 at 10:36 am | Reply
      • read2012

        China and Russia have always been the cowardly pigs of the world.

        June 13, 2012 at 11:47 am |
  46. Yes, I Did

    What ever happened to the good old days of simply assassinating problematic dictators?

    June 13, 2012 at 10:08 am | Reply
    • Dalwal

      Politicians happened. They voted on legislatation that forbids assassination of foregin leaders and persons of notiriety. So, thank your politicians for that.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:15 am | Reply
    • Cheese Wonton

      What "good old days" are you talking about? When was it ever easy to assassinate a head of state that had any kind of serious army and security apparatus protecting that head of state? Such assassinations are extremely rare, and seldom carried out by a foreign power. They are usually inside jobs or carried out by political opponents within their country.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:39 am | Reply
  47. drc09

    stinger missile:)))) Charlie Wilson's War part 2

    June 13, 2012 at 10:08 am | Reply
    • oldguy

      Just what I was thinking.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:13 am | Reply
    • Nate

      Fighting on the same side as Al-Qaeda again...great f***in' idea.

      June 13, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Reply
  48. ART

    I cannot wait till the day Putin is dragged thru the streets like Ghadafi by his own Russian people.

    June 13, 2012 at 10:00 am | Reply
    • oldguy

      I hope you're correct, but I don't think it's going to happen

      June 13, 2012 at 10:14 am | Reply
  49. blahblah

    more of the same......we aren't going to do anything, I don't know why the media continues to harp on this. They would have to use biological weapons or something on that lines before we showed up to do anything at all. The thing is, we aren't going to war with russia or china. So we are just little dogs barking loudly. We need to let the other U.N. members bark the loudest and just act like the silent big brother for a change. Helicopters aren't a real threat to a large airforce so it's like if they said, oh look they just supplied them with more grenades on the larger scale. CNN is just trying to get everyone thinking about another world war, that's their job I suppose.

    June 13, 2012 at 9:57 am | Reply
    • mudbone9

      We won't do anything because we are stuck between a rock and a hard spot. The Russians are able to hold our troops hostage in Afghanistan because we are now relying on the northern supply routes as the Pakis have blocked the Southern route. This will become a covert war with the CIA supplying the Syrian rebels with missiles to bring down the helicopters.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:44 am | Reply
    • Brahms

      So you support the Muslim Brotherhood?

      June 13, 2012 at 10:49 am | Reply
  50. Saywhatyoumean

    I wonder how many innocent people have died while you guys have been arguing on this thread. I remember the days leading up to the Iraq war, how the hawks were crying for military invasion because Saddam was a supposed threat to the US, was allied with Al-Qaeda and was murdering his own people. We just HAD to intervene and stop him !. And it turned out to be a bunch of BS. Oh, but then the war supporters said "Well, we got Saddam out of power because he was a evil dictator so it was worth the cost". Alright fair enough, but where's the rallying call for invading Syria ? It's people are being murdered by an evil dictator – where's the call for war now ? Or is it because the war profiteers don't have enough to gain ?

    June 13, 2012 at 9:50 am | Reply
    • hoss

      The reason we went after Iraq and Afghanistan is simple...their military posed no real threat to us....the USA wants to maintain a ruse that it is the unstoppable force on the planet, rolling over little guys like bullies taking candy from children....that and there is oil in iraq...there is no large caches of resources in syria, their regime is well armed and trained...much like iran...and to be honest...they are about to make revelations come true because, we are bullies and the new age United States of Sodom and Ghemorah , dont bother praying to god...we turned our backs on him....best keep praying to the benjamin franklins. Its sad really...this country had such great potential...we could have all worked together for the greater good of humanity...with all the potential minds and resources we have wasted on war and control we could have been space faring by now...its really really sad SO many ppl have to die while our coward leaders will hide in mountains like they are gods....like they are the chosen to represent the next generation of humans...when they are the reason we are here...the reason so many are gonna die.....for those that do believe in the holy ghost i would ask you to pls hang your heads and pray...turbulant times are ahead my friends...but at the end there is a light, Just as the lord promises

      June 13, 2012 at 10:10 am | Reply
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      Where's the rallying call for invading Syria you asked? Perhaps you should pose that question to the republicans in congress! Let's face it, like we did in Libya, the Obama administration would have already taken action in intervening in Syria to stop the bloodshed. But sadly, as its been with our economy, the republicans keep playing political divide and games by disrupting the Obama administration from doing its job! And now that this is an election year, you know the gop would attack our President and politicize any intervention in Syria even more to score political points and make the President look bad! For example, during the Libyan crisis, the republicans accused President Obama of "dragging his feet" and doint nothing to help the people of Libya but when the President got the international community on board for military intervention, the gop did their typical etch-a-sketch, changing their position and accusing the President of "rushing to war" then without shame, they asked "what's the mission and the end game." Therefore, if we end us being invaded and taken over by a foreign foe one day, we can credit the teapublicans for our demise!

      June 13, 2012 at 10:15 am | Reply
  51. Jim McDonald

    America needs to push it's own 'reset' button, and remove idjoits like clinton,obama & holder from office.

    June 13, 2012 at 9:38 am | Reply
    • pooby

      Is it ironic you spelled "idiots" incorrectly? Or are you just an idiot?

      June 13, 2012 at 10:01 am | Reply
      • Ash

        And who appointed you a language teacher, if you have nothing to say just shut up!

        June 13, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • Fearless Freep

      Lets put Romney in the white house, then we can have a war with
      Syria and Iran.
      And when the Russians get involvd we can pick a fight with them, and dont forget
      the Chinese.....
      You are the IDIOT here.

      June 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Reply
  52. Sheri Lee

    We need Mitt Romney now. Because he would not be afraid of going to war against Russia. So they would stop their support of Syria. This is a threat to Isreal and Romney being a chrisitian Mormon understands this. He is not a whimp like Obama.

    June 13, 2012 at 9:30 am | Reply
    • jj

      Congrats....that's the dum est thing I've read today.

      June 13, 2012 at 9:50 am | Reply
    • Yes you Sheri Lee

      typical response from an idiot...

      June 13, 2012 at 9:55 am | Reply
    • Paul

      Ya. That's what this country needs, another war. (said with extreme sarcasm if you couldn't tell.)

      June 13, 2012 at 10:07 am | Reply
    • blahblah

      Sheri – That was a very uneducated response. Mitt isn't going to get into office and declare WWIII, that would be a sure fire way to end the modern world as we know it pretty much instantly. The U.S. no matter who is president will sit on their hands and watch from the back of the room on this one. It's too risky to do anything but that. It is horrible to watch so many people get massacred but that's happening all acrossed the globe in various ways and places. We pick our battles, particularly the ones that will not cause the entire world to suffer (such as intervening here or say with N. Korea).

      June 13, 2012 at 10:13 am | Reply
    • JTallon

      Good plan. Here's Mitt's war stategy. Air drop thousands of Mormon elders into Russia to convert them all into bible weilding, smiling zombies of Jesus of the latter day. Yeh, that'll work.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:17 am | Reply
      • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer


        June 13, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      Sure, Mitt Romney won't be afraid to go to war with Russia! How many US Presidents and US administrations have played a part in the cold war to avert a global nuclear anialation? But you say Mitt Romney won't be afraid to end this cold war and go to war with Russia? Well, do you have room for me in your undergraound bunker?

      June 13, 2012 at 10:23 am | Reply
    • Ash

      Typical idiot, what do you want an third world war...

      June 13, 2012 at 10:40 am | Reply
    • Fearless Freep

      Mitt banging you ?

      June 13, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Reply
  53. zaphed

    Anyone who thinks USA is against destroying the radicals in Syria is out of their mind. I believe even S Arabia is helping Assad now. How pathetic and unintelligent the US public hath become. cheers.

    June 13, 2012 at 9:23 am | Reply
    • jj

      I didn't know people could "become unintelligent"...but I'm being unintelligent is something your familiar with.

      June 13, 2012 at 9:52 am | Reply
    • Cheese Wonton

      Not a chance. The Saud family are Wahhabis, orthodox Sunnis and the Assad clan are Alawytes, a branch of Shia and mortal enemies of the Sunnis. The Saudis are supporting the opposition to Assad, which comes primarly from the Sunni population of Syria. The Alawytes, Christians and Druz support Assad. .

      June 13, 2012 at 10:46 am | Reply
    • Fearless Freep

      *** hath become !!!!

      Hey Fox News, please take your morons, trolls and idiots back.

      June 13, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Reply
  54. tupper

    The first rule of propoganda is to demonize the leader. Suddam was a tyrant, Kim is insane, The leader of Iran is cruel. Gaddafi was insane.. Now Assad is an animal. Do Americans think that one person can keep power on their own? They need the support of the military elite, beauracrats, and the ruling classes. If America's enemies started assasinating presidents would the government fall apart? America would be the first to scream if someone started assasinating their leaders.

    June 13, 2012 at 9:23 am | Reply
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      The problem with those countries have been the lack of free elections and deadly consequencies to those who seek to speak out against the regime or call for social and political reform! For example, in Libya the people weren't calling for regime change but for social and political reforms where they had more say in their lives, better wages, living conditions, etc! But Ghadaffi used deadly force and backfired! Likewise, at the onset of the Syrian conflict, the people weren't asking for regime change but for the same changes the Libyan people were seeking. But he too used deadly force! Let's face it, no one person is bigger than the masses and soon this coward called Assad is going to fall with or without the support of Putin!

      June 13, 2012 at 9:34 am | Reply
      • Brahms

        Free elections – like Egypt? Seems your another Muslim Brotherhood fanatic.

        June 13, 2012 at 10:51 am |
  55. Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

    What do Russia and Syria have in common politically? Well, I'm afraid not much! For example, there are free elections in Russia where the people can decide who they want to be their leader! But in Syria, the people do not have that political freedom and I believe this is what the Arab Spring is all about! Its a call for political and social reform where the people have more freedoms, better jobs, better living conditions and a better life! I'm afraid Mr. Putin is supporting the wrong cause in Syria!

    June 13, 2012 at 9:22 am | Reply
    • tupper

      The problem is America is again supporting Al Qaeda, through Saudi Arabia. The Sunni's are being supported by America causing a rift in the Middle East. The American embassy in Lybia was attacked, and the British Ambassador was also attacked and two bodyguards injured. Great allies, but of course they were are allies in Afganistan.

      June 13, 2012 at 9:29 am | Reply
    • Sam

      Mr. Putin is worried about 1 thing. MONEY

      June 13, 2012 at 9:31 am | Reply
  56. tupper

    Good thing we didn't supply the Taliban and Al Qaeda stinger missles to use against the Russians in Afganistan. That worked out wee

    June 13, 2012 at 9:11 am | Reply
  57. Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

    I wonder what's Russia's next move! Perhaps sale of enriched uranium to Iran? Or a nuclear warhead? Well, hello WWIII! God help us!

    June 13, 2012 at 9:10 am | Reply
    • Gladihater

      tell russia and china to suck it, and enforce a no fly zone, let some drones loose on AA ground targets and take those installations out. then let drones loose on military installations. If China & Russia are going to let the slaughter continue atleast level the playing field for the ppl rebelling. They deserve a chance to live and not be slaughtered like dogs in the street by coward govt employeed gangs...what if this was your city and was your family being slaughtered, would you neckbeared idiots still feel the same way?

      June 13, 2012 at 9:28 am | Reply
      • David

        That is it. We go to war fighting China and Russia. Do you speak Russian? I sure don't.

        June 13, 2012 at 10:09 am |
    • Fearless Freep

      *** tell russia and china to suck it, and enforce a no fly zone...

      Yeah, we could fly US jets over that military base the Russians have on SYRIAN territory.
      Then you can scream when American boys come home in body bags.

      I D I O T !!!!!!!

      June 13, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Reply
  58. jj

    We should at least be keeping this issue in front of the Russian people. Shaming them may plant the seeds of discontent.

    June 13, 2012 at 9:08 am | Reply
    • Brahms

      Assad is fighting muslim extremists (Al Quaeda anyone?) – seems Russia is acting logically. Now please explain the U.S. support of the radical Islamic rebels.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:54 am | Reply
      • Payback

        Nobody is listening to you.
        That video you posted was propaganda garbage.
        You have no credability.

        June 13, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
  59. Bob B

    I guess attack helicopters are like B-52s, you can use them for both attacking and defense. Hummm........

    June 13, 2012 at 9:06 am | Reply
  60. Kerry

    Russia can go broke fighting Syria's civil war. The U.S. is smart to stay out of that mess. We have already gone broke fighting other Muslim causes, let not this be yet another.

    June 13, 2012 at 9:04 am | Reply
    • h8bogez

      Read the article...they are making money on the conflict not engaging in it.

      June 13, 2012 at 9:09 am | Reply
  61. NN

    Is the DoD so stupid that they think the Russians aren't going to pack the helicopters they sell us full of bugs and defective parts?

    June 13, 2012 at 9:02 am | Reply
    • Cheese Wonton

      Those Russian made helos are being given to the Afghan Army. The US doesn't fly them, but the Afghan Army knows the Russian equipment and the US is comfortable giving them Russian helos because the Russian stuff is so inferior to what the US and NATO forces fly, ti represents no threat.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:49 am | Reply
  62. Badly-Bent

    Simple solution: Upon arrival, drone them.

    June 13, 2012 at 8:58 am | Reply
  63. Brian

    While overall I prefer a no-intervention policy, there are cases where the abuses are so prevalent that action should be taken. By no means do I want to deepen the pockets of the warmongers and the MIC, but I would be OK w/a simple "take out Assad" action. After that, we leave and let the people make it what they can.

    June 13, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
    • J.J

      Like taking out Saddam? How long have we been in Iraq?

      June 13, 2012 at 8:55 am | Reply
      • Brian

        I understand your point and i agree with you. It cannot become another Iraq/Afghanistan. I'm not suggesting it would be easy, but once he's down, we leave.

        June 13, 2012 at 8:58 am |
      • Paul

        A few rockets to the presidential compound would send a clear message, even if Assad survives it. When Reagan did that, Gaddafi shut his mouth.

        June 13, 2012 at 9:08 am |
    • tet1953

      There is no such thing as a simple "take out Assad" action. Syria has significant defenses for one thing. That is the same reason that air support won't work. Besides that what about afterward? Let me gues. First we help them through their "transition" to non-dictator rule, then we help them rebuild roads, schools, hire cops..while our own infrastructure crumbles. We have a script to follow.

      June 13, 2012 at 9:04 am | Reply
    • Brahms

      Abuse? This is a civil war of Christian, Druze, and Alawite vs Sunni Muslim – you'd prefer another radical Islamic state it appears – and we all know how non-abusive they are.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:58 am | Reply
    • Payback

      *** take out Assad" action. After that, we leave and let the people make it what they can.

      A power vacuum that leads to Sunni/Shia war, with the christians getting slaughtered
      and the war spills over to Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon and Iraq.
      Why dont we just put little Brian in charge since he has all the answers.

      June 13, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Reply
  64. kxr

    What surprises me is how long it takes for American government to understand that PUTIN IS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY KILLER. All his best friends are in business of selling arms, oil, gas and minerals. And no matter to whom. Nothing personal – just a business. All this people became OLIGARCHs owning billions of $$$ on their accounts. For them money = power!!!
    And your words mean absolutely nothing to them. Romney is right saying that current Russia is America's first enemy. So American government must revise its foreign policy ASAP till it's not late.

    June 13, 2012 at 8:50 am | Reply
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      The problem with the ongoing Syrian conflict is that it continues to wage on simply because Mr. Assad and Russia are fully aware of the debacle and political divide in Washington where no matter what President Obama does to lead, the republicans will do anything within their means to see that our President and country fail! Hey, perhaps its a great time for us to be invaded by a foreign foe! Stinking worthless teapublican confederates!

      June 13, 2012 at 9:01 am | Reply
      • Brahms

        Perhaps the Radical Jihadist Rebels could stop firing their weapons and killing people (in between their prayer sessions of course)- thought of that possibility? Why do you support radical Islam?

        June 13, 2012 at 11:01 am |
      • Payback

        *** Perhaps the Radical Jihadist Rebels could stop firing their weapons and killing people

        Perhaps the Syrin government could stop murdering woman and children.....perhaps....

        June 13, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Parker

      I couldn't agree more. And I'm not trying to belittle or vilify Putin at all. He is of the old school who rules with power, not influence, savvy politics, election cycles, etc. It's wise to acknowledge that this was (and in some ways still is) the standard affair in world politics, and it is the West who is trying to forge and uphold a new, delicate, subversive power structure. To make my point clearer, try to install Caesar into our modern world. He is considered one of the great leaders of antiquity, but how would he stack up in terms of todays public relations and politically correct atmosphere? He'd be seen as a tyrant by all, not just his conspirators. And if we put Hitler in Caesar's place, he suddenly becomes a brilliantly efficient powerful leader. Point is, in our modern era we use an entirely different "score system"

      but Putin would have done better in the old score system.

      June 13, 2012 at 9:09 am | Reply
  65. Walter

    I suppose the US, or its allies, could sell shoulder fired AA weapons to Syrian rebels. Of course, the mention of that brings back memories of the Mujhadeen fighting against the Russians in Afghanistan, and them eventually becoming a terrorist organisation years later. Hmmmm..... Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

    June 13, 2012 at 8:48 am | Reply
    • Payback

      Love it when people say, hhhhhmmmmm
      such serious thinkers.
      I think i will take a dump....hhhmmmmm.......

      June 13, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Reply
  66. les

    Ho hum. Who cares. So the Syrian government can kill more of its own people. That usually doesn't bother any of the usual "moralists" in the world. I wonder how this stuff is getting reported in Afghanistan, where any collateral damage to civilians produces knee jerk anti-Americanism.

    June 13, 2012 at 8:45 am | Reply
  67. Pinkflam

    I hope that Russia sends enough arms and ammunition in one shipment to obliterate the Syrian guerillas. Hind-D: the weapon of choice against all forms of parasitic infestation. If the US had any brains, they'd get behind Russia and maybe contribute a dozen A-10 Warthogs to the Syrian government.

    June 13, 2012 at 8:45 am | Reply
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      You call innocent women and children Syrian guerillas? You call UN peacekeepers and Red Cross workers Syrian guerillas? Pathetic!

      June 13, 2012 at 9:07 am | Reply
      • Brahms

        You are real kool-aide drinker aren't you?

        June 13, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Brahms


      June 13, 2012 at 11:02 am | Reply
    • Parfin Woodell

      Ar you a Christian, a Republican, or both ?

      June 13, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Reply
  68. J.J

    How many regime's have the U.S. Government supplied weapons to? Clinton, shut your pie hole.

    June 13, 2012 at 8:19 am | Reply
    • dhondi

      yes, if she wants war with syria she should get a rifle and head on over.

      June 13, 2012 at 8:35 am | Reply
    • Parfin Woodell

      Fox News.
      Please open your comments section, all of your
      brainless twits, morons and idiots are spouting garbage here.

      June 13, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Reply
  69. jbm66

    What no Flotilla?

    June 13, 2012 at 8:15 am | Reply
    • Payback

      What, no brain ?

      June 13, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Reply
  70. Simeon Namore

    One month ago:

    "Russia and China both agree there should be no foreign intervention in Syria.

    Russian president Vladimir Putin is in Beijing for a state visit and is being hosted by his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao.

    The Chinese president, who also heads up the Communist Party, welcomed Putin at the start of the a three-day visit.

    The most significant global issue is the confirmation that both countries as permament members of the UN Security Council, are against a military operation or regime change in Syria."

    Dictators of a feather stick together. Too bad there wasn't a cruise missile at this meeting.

    June 13, 2012 at 8:09 am | Reply
    • dhondi

      right, just more violence.

      June 13, 2012 at 8:36 am | Reply
  71. Dan

    Why is Israel flag behind her? US is puppet?

    June 13, 2012 at 8:07 am | Reply
    • Nadbash

      You're really going to go with that? Wow.

      June 13, 2012 at 8:56 am | Reply
    • read2012

      Who let you borrow a computer??? Go take your meds and get back in your padded cell!!!

      June 13, 2012 at 9:50 am | Reply
    • Fiftypence

      Bingo. The sooner the USA distances itself from that ungrateful and unobliging country the better.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:09 am | Reply
    • Payback

      Why is you be moron ?

      June 13, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Reply
  72. AmericanPeasant

    So this is why Russia has been trying to prevent America from intervening and bringing a swift end to Syria like we did Libya. Assad has all ready gone too far with his bloodshed for Syria to ever go back, Syria is pretty much fighting a civil war. As long as Assad lives there will be plenty of money in contracts for Putin to make.

    June 13, 2012 at 8:01 am | Reply
    • dhondi

      Are you jealous that another country is selling arms to bad guys and America isn't getting a piece?

      June 13, 2012 at 8:38 am | Reply
  73. Rob

    Do not think the us would not use attack helicopters against our own people if the goverment were threatened.

    June 13, 2012 at 8:01 am | Reply
    • Flatsguide

      This current regime certainly would.

      June 13, 2012 at 8:07 am | Reply
      • Bob Loblaw

        Sad but true. If there were an uprising in the United States, you can bet your butt the Feds would massacre the population.

        June 13, 2012 at 8:38 am |
      • Derigible

        I expected that every time Bush raised the terror alert to orange.
        We are passed that Neocon Nazi.

        June 13, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
    • read2012

      I would definitely use an attack helicopter against you nutcases.

      June 13, 2012 at 9:51 am | Reply
    • ConfirmYourThought

      We already have. (see WACO and the assault against the religious compound). Some will use the false charges that our government drummed up to justify the assault, but, if you check the later findings, you will see all the charges were proven false.

      Also "Ruby Ridge" etc.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:35 am | Reply
  74. krm1007 ©™

    It is OK for USA and Europeans to sell arms and ammunitions all over the world worth trillions of dollars but not for others. Go Figure. My comment is based on matter of principle not specific incident.

    June 13, 2012 at 7:59 am | Reply
  75. EVN

    Daffy Duck used his military against his people and Nato used targeted assaults against leaders in Libya so maybe its time for NATO to send some cruise missles to Damascus any target Assad.

    June 13, 2012 at 7:47 am | Reply
  76. snotboogy

    All the meanwhile the USA is sending $millions in "defense" products to Israel

    June 13, 2012 at 7:41 am | Reply
    • Derigible

      Nothing wrong with that.

      June 13, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Reply
  77. jt_flyer

    I'm sure the entire world recognizes that Russia is providing arms to the Syrian regime.

    When has US intervention into an Islamic ever been good for the US?!? We're still fighting the longest war in american history in Afghanistan. Opening another front will only waste more american lives and dollars. When it ends -if it ever really ends- everyone involved WILL HATE THE U.S. EVEN MORE FOR OUR SACRIFICE.

    The US is broke... flat broke. You want to borrow more money from China to dig our grave deeper? More crushing debt?

    Europe is the world's largest economy and EUROPE BORDERS SYRIA. (Turkey is a European state and soon to be an EU member).

    History shows us over and over that WE CAN NOT HELP THESE PEOPLE.

    June 13, 2012 at 7:30 am | Reply
    • Jt_flyer

      Headlines today: '58 killed in string of bombings in Iraq'. Great success!

      June 13, 2012 at 7:39 am | Reply
      • Jt_flyer

        Please understand I'm NOT saying the deaths are a success. This is a tragedy ! My point is that We don't have the poer to help these people. Sorry but true.

        June 13, 2012 at 7:41 am |
      • dhondi

        yes, we helped them good didn't we.....I guess our history in iraq would be a mandate to mind our own business?

        June 13, 2012 at 8:39 am |
    • Andre

      jt_flyer: I'm a crazy idealist and "idealistically" I'd love to say, lets go over there and kick some corrupt regime butt. But I'm afraid in this this case you are 100% correct. We just don't have the means to do it right now. This could very easily become WWIII, and although I recognize that WWIII will happen eventually, do we have to go through it right now?

      On the flip side, just to play devil's advocate; what if something like that was happening here? We would want help from outsiders (although I'd like to believe that America would NEVER tolerate such a thing) if we were getting slaughtered in our own streets. I think it comes down to the fact that economic sanctions are about the best we can do for now. Of course if this does turn into WWIII... I'm still on inactive reserve so I'll see you in Syria! And probably China or Russia too.

      June 13, 2012 at 10:30 am | Reply
  78. Terry

    So, where is the Arab League in all of this?

    June 13, 2012 at 7:25 am | Reply
    • Flatsguide

      Badmouthing the U.S. for not helping. If the U.S. helps, they will badmouth the U.S. for interfering in Arab nations.

      June 13, 2012 at 8:09 am | Reply
  79. TBD











    June 13, 2012 at 5:14 am | Reply
    • dhondi

      stop yelling.

      June 13, 2012 at 8:40 am | Reply
    • Pinkflam

      Do you have any idea what a "zero-sum game" is? Get a clue!

      June 13, 2012 at 8:49 am | Reply
    • Badly-Bent

      I know there is a hidden message in there somewhere.

      June 13, 2012 at 9:00 am | Reply
    • JATT_

      this man speaks the truth heed his words.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:38 am | Reply
    • Grog Says


      HA HA HA !

      June 13, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Reply
  80. Juststoppedcaring

    Let them kill each other, let them do what they want. I hate to sound cold and hearless and yes its a tradgedy. But if those people want to kill each other let them. We have too many issues here in the states than to play babysitter for the rest of the world and try to solve its problems when we can't even solve our own.

    June 13, 2012 at 4:29 am | Reply
    • AKIL

      Amen to that.

      June 13, 2012 at 7:24 am | Reply
    • Dave

      would be fine if innocent women and children weren't getting killed

      June 13, 2012 at 7:29 am | Reply
      • ryancrobin

        c'mon Dave- the ol' women and children line, huh? happens every single day bud, i hate to tell you. Just because there are women involved (no biological fault of their own) and children involved (people that are "x" amount of years away from being in the category in which you apparently wouldn't care if they are killed, right?). People are people, whether it's a 3 year old or a 93 year old. Never understood that stupid women and children line. sheesh

        June 13, 2012 at 7:54 am |
  81. RadovanKaradzic

    Bomb Russia like you bomb the rest of the world haha!

    June 13, 2012 at 4:09 am | Reply
    • Paul

      We know better than that! lol

      June 13, 2012 at 4:11 am | Reply
    • Flatsguide

      You guys will just bomb yourselves sooner or later.

      June 13, 2012 at 8:11 am | Reply
      • dhondi

        how is the redfish bite?

        June 13, 2012 at 8:40 am |
  82. SelfDefensemode

    The die is cast, send in G.I.Joe's..

    June 13, 2012 at 4:07 am | Reply
    • Dave

      Just do like we did when Russia invaded Afghanistan........shoulder fired anti-air missles will do the trick........

      June 13, 2012 at 7:28 am | Reply
      • Joe

        Yes, Dave. But don't forget who we gave those shoulder fired missiles to in Afghanistan to fight the Russians – Osamam Bin Laden. If we arm the Syrian opposition now, is some nutbag jihadist going to thank us for it in ten years by setting off a dirty bomb in a NY subway?

        June 13, 2012 at 7:35 am |
  83. Omen

    The funny part is Russia is allowed to go to Syria with attack copters, and the USA is not allowed to help the Syrian people in any way.

    June 13, 2012 at 4:06 am | Reply
    • Joe Joe

      only the choppers are going.......

      June 13, 2012 at 4:27 am | Reply
  84. JATT_

    WW3 coming soon get ready. We will drag the zionists and their puppets through the streets!

    June 13, 2012 at 3:37 am | Reply
    • read2012

      Go take your meds you whacko. That means nut-job in English. Go blow urself up and get your stinky hairy virgins and be quiet camel porker. Seriously people, if the world ends it will be bc ALL RELIGIONS are evil.

      June 13, 2012 at 9:57 am | Reply
      • JATT_

        I am not a muslim and that hairy virgin crap you spew has nothing to do with anything I relate to.

        June 13, 2012 at 11:35 am |
  85. robertd188

    I hope Russia does not deploy ground troops to Syria.

    June 13, 2012 at 3:33 am | Reply
    • Petra Bolashnik

      in reply to robertd188
      Russian military bases in syria had approximately 7,000 troops as a standing defence compliment for all the years since ussr. within the last 14 months the number has been raised to 26,000. recently in a speech to the un hillary clinton threatened to send us troops into syria without un or nato approval "...if the bloodshed continues"; her russian counterpart replied: "Come if you will come, and we will shoot you down." looks like someone is turning the cold war burner back on to simmer...

      June 13, 2012 at 8:38 am | Reply
      • Cheese Wonton

        I'm waving the bs flag on that.

        June 13, 2012 at 10:53 am |
  86. Jack

    New World Order......plain & simple people.

    June 13, 2012 at 3:17 am | Reply
    • jason

      Calm down...

      June 13, 2012 at 4:03 am | Reply
    • Armando

      After Armageddon

      June 13, 2012 at 7:38 am | Reply
    • Feed Your Head

      Just another phase in the plan, there is more coming.

      June 13, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Reply
  87. david

    big surprise...not. these people just know killing and death...both sides. i say let them destroy themselves...they've been doing it for centuries.

    June 13, 2012 at 3:13 am | Reply
    • YehYeh

      Noone loves war more than Americans.

      June 13, 2012 at 3:29 am | Reply
      • Omen

        Wrong. North American and south America had longer time without wars than the middle east.the middle east had wars since BC times, and still middle east is a blood hungry place.

        June 13, 2012 at 4:11 am |
  88. aizen

    and the big deal is? the USA sells billions $ arms deals to dubious countries in the middle east including israel. so why cant russia supply syria with weaponery that can help them fight the rebels who are in fact terrorist in sheep clothes...this is lybia 2...those same so called rebels are the one doing the massacres and blaming it on the government...this is all propaganda and i hope russia and china stay the course

    June 13, 2012 at 3:04 am | Reply
    • Andre

      Well they say history goes to the victor... I'm interested in how this will appear in the text books 100 years from now. Who will be the bad guy and who will be the good guy?

      June 13, 2012 at 10:35 am | Reply
    • Timothy

      Aizen, you are obviously blinded by your hatred of Israel and the West... You think that women and small children are the terrorists in this war? The good and innocent people of Syria have wanted change for a very long time but were intimidated by Assad and his military thugs. It has come to a point where they can't just sit around and watch their family members, friends and neighbors get murdered... All they want is to be able to feed their families, work and have a place to call home. The "ONLY" reasons that Russia is backing Assad is because they want to keep selling them weapons and the Sea Port they have access to in Syria. If Russia loses that Port, they will have no other places within 1500 kilometers. This is a different war in Syria. It is not about religion, it is about human rights and the right to be free. I find it amazing that some people from around the world and the Middle East in specific, hate the U.S. but you are so happy to come here and visit Strip Bars, Drink Alcohol, Enjoy our Freedom and then you say how wicked we are because you had so much fun...

      June 14, 2012 at 3:55 am | Reply
  89. again on the sidelines

    wonder how many need to die before the UN, NATO, or the US gets involved.....rapidly turning into another Bosnia and if something isnt done soon it will get much worse than that. I personally like how we can claim moral high ground on human rights violations against countries like Iran, China, North Korea, and so on....but yet we sit here and do nothing. Guess if there was more oil to be had in Syria maybe then we would do something.

    June 13, 2012 at 2:58 am | Reply
    • AgainstWar

      We cannot be policing the entire world. Financially we are broke. Take care of our citizens first. So much unemployment, and standard of living coming down due to underemployment and reduced pays. If we want to start fixing other countries, then start with China or North Korea. That would be a challenge, and would free billions and millions of people from dictatorship.

      June 13, 2012 at 3:40 am | Reply
  90. Mark

    THIS is not what IT Seems.

    June 13, 2012 at 2:43 am | Reply
  91. AgainstWar

    Did US send Attack helicopters to Iraq and use them against Iraqi civilians? If so, why not Russia do the same?

    June 13, 2012 at 2:41 am | Reply
    • wow...just wow

      This comment is so obnoxiously off base its not even funny. To even compare the two shows that you not only pick and choose your data, but don't know the first thing about ANY actual engagement that occurred in Iraq. It is fair to assert that 75% of those "civilians" that were killed in Iraq due to Apache or Kiowa strikes (those are our attack and scout chopper variants since I'm sure you have no clue what they are I figured I would help you out some) were actually insurgents or terrorists trying to either set up IED's to kill myself and other soldiers like me, or setting up rocket launching stations to conduct indirect fire missions on us outposts in the country. Do us all a favor, pull your bottom lip over your head and swallow.

      June 13, 2012 at 2:54 am | Reply
      • AgainstWar

        I respect any one who volunteers to fight for their country. I do appreciate your service. Leaving your emotions aside, US did not have any legitimate reason to go and fight in Iraq on flimsy and bogus grounds and in that process get close to hundred thousand innocent people including children were killed and millions displaced. It continues to be in chaos and has not turned like free developed nation. There is no justification to go to war with a country who has not historically attacked us. Similarly, there is no reason to support the opposition or insurgents directly or indireclty in Syria. US can spend money and focus towards its well being of US citizens in infrastructure building, education, health care, job creation etc, instead of policing the world, fighting wars, and trying to topple every govt. not friendly to us. Whether we like it or not, we have to take care of our people first and our issues before interfering another soverign country's local issue. Let rest of the world pitch in and lead the efforts like in the case of liberation of Libya, where France, UK etc took the lead. With so much debt, for future generations of US, we need to step back and say No more wars if we are not directly or indirectly attacked or if we have possible cause to think so. FYI: One of my cousins was a soldier and we lost him too...So, again, its not against the people who have to take the heat, but against the govt, who make senseless wars. ty.

        June 13, 2012 at 3:16 am |
      • jason

        As a OIF veteran myself I think you should know better. The pretenses for war in Iraq were false. Insurgents are not terrorists if China invaded the United States you better know I would be taking pot shots and setting up explosives at them.

        June 13, 2012 at 4:13 am |
    • gazzaer

      The US is responsible for hundreds of thousands of dead civilians in Iraq. The bombing of the Ariya shelter alone killed over 400 people. US can't point a finger at anyone. It's hands are dripping with blood

      June 13, 2012 at 3:23 am | Reply
      • citizenUSA

        Hundreds of thousands? Where are you getting this information from? And remember, with a few individual exceptions, America does not intentionally kill innocent citizens.

        June 13, 2012 at 9:05 am |
      • Nate

        citizenUSA, how about from the UN and our own official reports and estimates? "With a few individual exceptions..." How do you know? I used to assemble the ordnance that many of our aircraft carry into combat, and let me tell you a little secret: all of those "smart" bombs are the same basic 500, 1000, or 2000 lb body, just with a different fin and guidance package attached. They may be a bit more accurate than unguided versions, but the end result is still 500+ pounds of high explosives going off. The blast radius isn't any smarter and doesn't discriminate between enemy and innocent.

        June 13, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
  92. Mark

    I Am asking for help. Please Yahweh..Jehovah. Please Send MORE Angels From THE UNIVERSE

    June 13, 2012 at 2:38 am | Reply
    • Greg

      There is no god, good luck...

      June 13, 2012 at 4:14 am | Reply
    • Gabriel

      Spaghetti God, I ask for your help, your noodliness

      June 13, 2012 at 7:53 am | Reply
  93. jmariaca

    Then Jesus said to him: “Return your sword to its place, for all those who take the sword will perish by the sword
    Mathew 26:52

    June 13, 2012 at 2:17 am | Reply
    • SelfDefensemode

      I agree. Don't send G.I. Joe's

      June 13, 2012 at 4:09 am | Reply
    • jt_flyer

      Jesus was a smart Son-of-God.

      June 13, 2012 at 7:18 am | Reply
    • withoutgod

      Matthew 10:34 " Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." Jesus fail.

      June 13, 2012 at 8:06 am | Reply
      • Smurf This

        Grouchy – Page 2 – line 4.

        Dont drop the smurfberries, or you will have no desert.

        June 13, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
  94. Cook2half

    Good , now assad will be able to have a fair fight with civilians

    June 13, 2012 at 2:06 am | Reply
    • Brahms

      Civilians who fire rocket launchers.

      June 13, 2012 at 11:04 am | Reply
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