By Jamie Crawford
With the situation in Syria seemingly deteriorating by the day, the United States is doing what it can to pressure Bashar al-Assad to step aside, but that goal is nowhere in sight, a senior administration official said Wednesday.
"As it relates to what Plan B is for Syria, we're still on Plan A," Deputy National Security Advisor Denis McDonough said at the U.S.-Islamic World Forum in Doha, Qatar. The event was sponsored by the Brookings Institution.
Following a massacre in the Syrian village of Houla this past weekend that left scores of children and villagers dead, McDonough said the United States continues to support the joint United Nations/Arab League plan, led by Kofi Annan, which is deploying monitors into Syria.
But McDonough acknowledged that simply putting monitors in Syria is not going to stop the carnage.
"The Annan plan is part of Plan A, but we're not betting the farm on the Annan plan," he said.
One of the reasons the United States is sticking to the current path is because U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, and others have conceded there is no Plan B at this point.
As the violence in Syria enters its 15th month with thousands left dead in its wake, pressure is growing on Capitol Hill for the Obama administration to do more to find a solution that gets al-Assad to leave power.
McDonough said "Plan A" also needs to include a "credible political transition process" that paves the way for al-Assad's exit. That aspect of the plan has been hampered by Russia's reluctance to endorse proposal after proposal put before the U.N. Security Council.
"We don't believe it's in Russia's interest to be associated with the Assad regime," McDonough said, "and certainly it's not in the interest of the region for this kind of barbaric activity to continue."
The United States continues to press Russia both publically and privately to sign on to an internationally accepted transition plan for Syria. And the new president of France, Francois Hollande, has said he will be engaging Russia on the same front in the days and weeks ahead.
Another part of "Plan A" is a multilateral effort led by the United States to strangle al-Assad's economic lifeline though sanctions.
The United States sanctioned a Syrian bank Wednesday that was acting as a front for two previously sanctioned banks in an effort to help those banks circumvent the restrictions, the Treasury Department said.
The government of Qatar announced "corresponding actions," the Treasury Department said, ordering all Qatari financial institutions to cease transactions with the same bank.
"Today's action will add to the economic pressure on the Assad regime by closing off a key evasion route," David S. Cohen, treasury under secretary for terrorism and financial intelligence, said in a written statement announcing the action. "The Treasury Department, working with others around the world who share our goal of ending the brutal repression of the Syrian people, will continue to close off the Assad regime's access to the international financial system."
The Syria International Islamic Bank had been acting for or on behalf of the Syrian Lebanese Commercial Bank, and the Commercial Bank of Syria, Syria's largest commercial bank, to allow them to evade sanctions imposed on those institutions by the United States, the European Union and the Arab League.
The Treasury Department announced sanctions in August 2011 against the Commercial Bank of Syria, and its subsidiary, Syrian Lebanese Commercial Bank, for their support of Syrian and North Korean proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
In a conference call with reporters, Cohen said the Commercial Bank of Syria was once a "key financial lifeline" for the Assad regime.
Through the implementation of additional sanctions targeting the Assad regime by the United States and its allies, Cohen said, the sanctions were having a "very significant impact on the economic situation in Syria," by cutting off the regime's ability to export oil, by far its most significant avenue for government revenues.
The regime has significantly drawn down on its financial reserves Cohen said "without ready means to replenish" them as a result of the ongoing sanctions drive.
In designating the Syria International Islamic Bank on Wednesday, Cohen said, the bank had surreptitiously facilitated financing of almost $150 million on behalf of the Commercial Bank of Syria, while also facilitating several large payments for the Syrian Lebanese Commercial Bank, including a payment to a proliferation entity.
The Treasury Department will host a meeting of the "Friends of Syria," next week in Washington to focus on ways to strengthen existing sanctions, and to discuss further ways to ratchet up the pressure on the Assad regime.
CNN's Jill Dougherty contributed to this report
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Its like you read my mind! You appear to know a lot about this, like you wrote the book in it or something. I think that you can do with a few pics to drive the message home a bit, but other than that, this is fantastic blog. A great read. I'll definitely be back.
We should stay as far away from this as we can. We just screw things up, when we get involved. We got involved in Korea, we are still there to this day, and still technically at a state of war. We got involved in Vietnam, and got our a$$ handed to us. We got involved in Iraq, and that place is still a mess. We got involved in Afghanistan, and we are going to be there for decades. Libya is still completely screwed up.
After checking out various maps, globes and gps coordinates I learned that Syria is in western Asia. Ergo. WTF business is it of the USA's what goes on there?
Fifty thousand have been murdered right across our southern border in the last 24-36 months and none of the sociopaths in DC is calling for regime change in Mexico.
I'm sure the guys in the US Offense Department as well as the MIC won't like it but how about we mind our own business for once?
I bet Syria is still safer than Miami during the Urban Beach Week.
How complacent is this President going to be??? HELLO-they are killing CHILDREN. Somebody do SOMETHING-God Almighty............Can anybody say Nazi Germany........
Russia has a military base on Syrian soil.
This base located on the Mediteranean sea has been stocked with troops and weapons
supplied by both Russia and Iran.
For all you morons screaming about Obama doing nothing, what should he do ?
Establish a no fly zone, and have American jets shot down ?
Put boots on the ground, and when American soldiers start dying you will scream for Obamas head ?
Either of thse plans would involve a war with Russia.
The best plan right now is the one President Obama has.
Work with other nations on sanctions.
Nobody wants Syrian children murdered,
But sending American soldiers to die with them ?
I agree, they're just arab children after all. We don't want our president's re-election chances ruined by something as trivial as getting involved with this.
Yes, Hubert, like the hundreds of thousand of dead Iraqis and, before that under the sanctions regime of the Clinton era, millions of dead Iraqi children that Madeline Albright thought were "worth it" to keep Saddam in line. And the fact that the US supports the illegal Israeli blockade of Gaza where tens of thousands of kids live in an open air prison, starving to death! Yes, the West surely loves darkie Arab children as much as it loves its own poor black kids (literally) here in the US!
Weell, you see, our president IS doing something....handing out arms to the terrorists who are killing those children, in fact.
Hey CNN! Report the facts. The photos of the "Houla massacre" you show are actual photos of dead IRAQIS from 2003. It has been provide that SUNNI terrorists went house to house in HOULA killing non-sunni muslims and Assad supporters. CNN and other news you have made it to easy for them to turn their terrorist acts into PROPOGANDA for them to show the world and lie about. WAKE UP CNN! HIRE ME! ILL GET YOU THE FACTS AND THE TRUTH!
Plan A: Ignore it and hope it goes away.
Plan B: Bury our head in the sand.
Plan C: Do nothing.
Plan D: ...
There will never be a plan B. China and Russia are fine with Syria killing babies so the slaughter will continue unabated. Syrians need to agree to what their government wants or continue to be slaughtered – those are the choices.
If plan B means the U.S. has to get involved with warfare then it's good that there is no plan B. We have enough nations hating us as it is for trying to help them.
Plan "A" which means stick your head up your 'A' and pretend the whole thing will go away by itself, given enough time.
Syrian oil production is a quarter of Libya... this is why America does not care. Syria is not worth the time and effort for the oil industry to occupy... Let the true collective thing they call the UN take care of the human right issues of the country. From here on out, oil is going to run EVERYTHING. The economic collapses are caused the production oil. Everything we do revolves around oil consumption.
America does not care....along with the rest of the international community, for the same reason unless that tiny detail slipped you mind.
The real villains here are the Russians and Chinese. But then we already know that human life means nothing to those governments. They'd gladly watch the slaughter of every man, woman and child in Syrian if it profited them. The only thing the respect about the diplomatic solution is the fact that it promises no solution and prevents action. It is a sad joke that Kofi Annan is orchestrating the peace talks. This is the guy who did nothing during the Rwandan genocide. The people of Syrian are in deep trouble. And who will they thank for this when it is all over?
Fact of the matter is, that Russia and China didn't even get involved in the pro-democracy movement in Syria until the US saw another opportunity and started hammering away in the Security Council for another "humanitarian corridor" and aid to the terrorists it was arming in Syria. Just like in Libya. And just like with Kosovo in the former Yugoslavia.
If plan A is sitting on our a$$, job well done. B.O. won't do anything, it won't help him get elected. Perhaps his position will evolve later.
He is doing the right thing, last thing we want is to be stuck in Syria's civil war that will likely last a decade plus, kinda like Lebanon. Let Russia and China carry the moral responsibility for this one.
David- maybe you haven't noticed, but China and Russia have no morals (not that we American's seem to either)
Because there is no plan B and all odopey will do is talk...nothing else.
I bet you touch yourself everytime you say "odopey".
For those "warhawks"out there ,how many of you actually serve in the armed forces.It's kind of hard to believe that after 10+ years of war that you would be all blood and guts enough to want to do it again .My God havent you had enough.
If you don't like the President or his policies,then,vote him out of office but to advocate that the President engage in a policy that would unnecessarily kill U.S. service personel in an attempt to discredit his Presidancy is more than irresponsible.
The UN was not intended for intervention in the internal affairs of other countries but to prevent one country from invading another.
While aiding the Free Syrian's by limiting outside interfierance,for example,may be necessary,the lion's share of the struggle has to be bourne by the Syrian's themselves,they must finish what they started,to their own greater glory. Syrian's will enjoy and appreciate their freedom far more if they earn it for themselves.
It's election year-we won't get into any more conflicts until after the new pres is elected.Of that we can be certain.
While we don't want to get in another conflict, you can't seriously be saying that the GOP is better at national security, their record in this regard is horrible and while this president could maybe be criticized for playing too much to the center you cannot say he hasn't been incredibly effective in his defense strategy.
David- "National Security" is primarily protecting American citizens and its infrastructure from attack...0 American casualities on our soil and 0 attacks on our infrastructure post 9/11...that's batting 1.000 for more than a decade, the majority of it under a GOP administration. What level of performance are you looking for?
*** Trevor
David- "National Security" is primarily protecting American citizens and its infrastructure from attack...0 American casualities on our soil and 0 attacks on our infrastructure post 9/11...that's batting 1.000 for more than a decade, the majority of it under a GOP administration. What level of performance are you looking for?
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911 happened under a Republican president.
You people always leave that part out.
and 911 was planned under a Democrat, so what?
Typical American. If it doesn't effect me, don't bother me. It's a sin to kill an American, but it's completely OK to kill Syrians (or other foreigners).
The word is AFFECT. Learn English you dummy.
Meh...so how come it is an American problem? Why can't other countries send their troops and money?
Pretty much. If you didn't notice, the United States is concerned with the protection of AMERICANS, and our interests. We invaded Iraq because it hurt our hold on oil, and made the Saudi's nervous. The only reason we are interested in Syria is Israel. If Syria was in Africa, we wouldn't give a damn. Ever heard of the Sudan Civil War? Or how about the Great War of Africa? We don't care about African conflicts because we aren't invested. Other than its location, there is nothing worth fighting for in Syria
I feel badly for those suffering, I really do. But the US needs to stay the hell out of this.
I know, kids are dying. It sucks. But brutally, the rebels are not organized into a coherent group, and I have NO FAITH that they would not go on *just as large* a killing spree in revenge if they got the upper hand over the Syrian government. We are not the world's police. We cannot be. We're dead flat broke and over half the world suspects the worst of us at any given moment. Our military has paid much too high a price over the last 10 years to get involved in a conflict where the US is NOT BEING THREATENED.
Let the rest of the world handle this one. And if no one else steps forward? Well, then that will teach us all some unhappy truths about how the world really works.
Thank You!!!!! these jackasses who want the US get involved into this conflict need to send their sons,daughters,etc,etc over there and GIVE our servicepersons a break from all this bull sh%#%. This also go for Mitt with his BS that the President is weak OK,OK he have five sons send four to fight "YES DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH"
Both sides in Syria are just as bad.
Taking a side there is absurd: the opposition includes pro-AlQaeda Wahhabis and frothing radical Islamists. Does ANYONE want to see Wahhabis in power in Syria?
Great point, funny how the international community and press don't seem to be pointing a finger at the opposition groups to should some of the blame for the slaughter. Not only were they negligent in their assessment for success v civilian losses that would occur, but to fail going on 15 months and CONTINUE is also extremely irresponsible.
Let Russia and China take care of the situation this time. Two "superpowers" who do nothing but stand back and watch everything that happens in their back yard.
Now, if we could only stop the West and its Arab despot allies from funding and training the Islamic terrorists, that just might work out...
You might be the dumbest person on CNN
I'm smart enough not to watch CNN, unlike you. I just stopped by to see what the perpetually ignorant and misled were blathering on about!
Plan A: Wag you fingers and cluck your tongues. Got it.
That's what we did before WWII was declared isn't it? Let 's just stay out of this for now. bad decision then and bad decision now.
Uh, the US supported Hitler in Germany, over the Big Bad Commies–because Hitler was Good For Business. Plus, he got a lot of his cool swingin' ideas about the genetic origins of racial inferiority from those super-tight US scientists and theorists! Way to go, Hitler!
*** Renae
Uh, the US supported Hitler in Germany
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This just might be the most azzinine thing i have ever read.
Please fill me in on how we supported Hitler when we went to war AGAINST him ?
Moron.
We fund everyone whether you hear about it publicly or not. also read about Castro and other South American regimes. in short we play both sides and be a winner in any situation. if you know who owns Fanta, read how it came into being then reassess your thoughts. this is the internet...Google and ask are your friends...do some research.
The West admired and supported both Mussolini and Hitler BEFORE hostilities broke out. President Roosevelt even called Mussolini "that fine Italian gentleman." The New York Times and other newspapers cheered on Mussolini because both he (and Hitler) put down those damn Commies and were friendly to business. And the admiration was returned: Hitler greatly admired Great Britain, wishing to achieve its status as a world empire. And, Adolph Hitler was greatly admired by Americans such as Jane Addams. He even adopted US eugenics philosophy and laws into Nazi policies.
And, if you are from the d@mnable god-awful website, then get out of your mother's basement and go to the library, you ignorant @ssjack.
Those same people who damn American if they don't go in, would damn American if they did. Plus Obama wants to do something about Assad, it is just Russia and China who don't want to create mandates for the UN cracking down on countries killing their own people
No ones damns America when it minds its own damn business.....
Libs damn America. Every chance they get.
I've personally seen Euros trash Americans for not wanting to get involved in things and then trashing us for doing so. Some folks just want to hate Americans regardless and considering our screwed up foreign policies when concerning the middle east they do have a good reason to hate us. Those that play the role of cheerleader for our screwed up foreign policies have no idea what we've done there. From Saddam Hussein to the Shah or Iran, to Osama Bin Laddin, to Ahmed Wali Karzai and many, many more. This doesn't even get into the extremely morally wrong and down right illegal dealings of the CIA. To every single person in America who looks at this from the sidelines the vast majority of us that aren't still hooked on stupid(the MSM) it looks like pure insanity with no end goals in mind. Or it looks like some convoluted, idiotic notion that these people actually want democracy without putting the effort there themselves(not even 10% of the Syrian public is fighting their government). Half of the braying donkeys here that are calling for support of the Syrian rebels and war don't even understand that the rebels already have AL-QAEDA(a group America created Even Hillary Clinton admitted that!) in their ranks! Just like we did when we supported the rebels in Libya(they had Al-Qaeda in their ranks too).
When I look at any calls for military action in the middle east and how down right insane it sounds I ask myself does it support Israel? If we engage in something so idiotic and 90% of the time I find that it does. It doesn't help America at all but destabilizing a region for "greater Israel"(google that term)it makes since in our puppet government's eyes.
Don't worry he's going to get bombed to ashes, we just want to make sure that the Syrian Chemical Weapons are secure first.
We have more important things to worry about. I honestly don't care about Syria.
If every one though like you, the world would be in jeopardy. You sir are sick minded.
We were told to stay out of it, Russia, China and Saudi Arabia have all said that they would prefer we stayed out of it, so let them handle it. It doesn't threaten our borders so let them try diplomacy for a while.
They should beg us to get involved now. Let them pay for our soldiers and our time.
Damascus is only 1 hour from the Jordanian borders, a quick invasion can remove Assad and his family in less than 24 hours.
I think Jordan has enough problems of its own trying to quell its own pro-democracy movement......
that's beside the point, I never saw a Jordanian soldier firing at his own people. Something that's very common in Syria.
How would you know if he did? You never saw a Syrian soldier firing at his own people, either....
I did.
And a democracy movement being squelched in a monarchy like Jordan, as US ally, is beside the point? So, obviously, if the US loves democracy so much, it should be easy to convince the King to give into the democratic movement in Jordan. If your reasoning is to "save" Syrians...the Syrians want the Annan peace treaty, which the terrorists have never backed. The US government has killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and millions more fled the country...right into Syria.
I think they've had enough of US 'liberation'.
So by all means, post proof of your allegation, and at the same time don't hide behind anonymity.
There will come a day when the King will step aside and let the PM of Jordan be elected by the people. However what we have now is a murderer in power in Syria. Assad's crimes against humanity are screaming from the blood soaked Syrian earth.
You didn't respond to my assertion that you post irrefutable proof of seeing a Syrian soldier shoot at a civilian, not shooting at the soldier.....
I saw many Syrian Soldiers sooting at unarmed civilians. I don't need to prove it to you.
Then, sir, you have no proof to show.
my nations intelligence has the proof, I just don't need to prove it to you.
Would it come from a nation which had "proof" of Saddam Hussein's WMD?
I am in Sync with my nation. What I saw, I verified with my nation. We both have the same proof.
Yeah, so you and your nation are liars.
as you wish, I don't need your comments, to prove to me what I saw.
That's 'cause you didn't see anything. If you and your nation have your facts straight, I would think this would be a golden opportunity to further impugn Assad and his backers.
If he said it than believe it. Many people have witnesses the horrible killings in Syria.
You mean, like the terrorists who shoot at government forces in Syria?
Tell me, did you like 9/11/01?
Renae is responding like a little child with her prove it to me attitude. All she has to do is watch some of the clips on Utube and she will have all the proof she so arrogantly demands. Nyah, nyah, nyah....silly girl.
That's funny, alibabble! Perhaps you should look up the false image broadcast by the BBC claiming (through the infamous 'unverified sources') to be an image from the massacre in Houla. But, as it turns out, the photographer who took the picture recognized it as a Iraq, 2003–you know, alibubblebrain, when WE we occupying Iraq? It pictured a lineup of bodies waiting to be buried, with a child jumping over them. Maybe YOU want to look that up!
Probably just some massacre committed by the US Army, not as big a deal as Assad, though.
Or maybe one party to the sectarian violence stirred up by the arrival of the US Army. Speaking of sectarian violence, it seems the victims in Houla were Assad supporters decimated by the Sunni Wahhabists. Their war has spilled over into Lebanon, by the way. And Houla is on the Lebanese border.
*** the Syrians want the Annan peace treaty, which the terrorists have never backed.
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And yet, its the Syrians who keep breaking the treaty.
Then the opposition gets killed.
Moron.
No, MORON, it is the terrorists who blow up people in Damascus who don't want peace, the ones who keep trying to MURDER the UN observers in Syria who reject the peace, on behalf of the West and their Arab despotic allies. Just like what happened in Iraq beginning in 2003 with US Army occupation setting off sectarian wars, way back to 1999 Sebia, when the US, on the pretext of a Serbian "massacre", bombed and killed thousands of Serbs AND their rivals, the Albanians.
ASSAD WILL FALL IN LESS THAN A WEEK. READ 'AN AMERICAN STYLE DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ' 2005
And car bomb Damascus killing over 90 people, who come from Libya and Iraq to make war for the US? You mean THOSE kinds of people?
Plan A- do nothing; plan B -lead from behind. But who'll do the actual fighting? certainly not sissy Obimbo. Behind means behind. nobody else willing to do the hard work for Obimbo? revert to plan A.
Right. You do remember that it was Obama who made the call to raid the compound and kill bin laden, right?! It was also Obama who aided in ousting a Lybian dictator without starting another war. Compared to the military record of previous presidents Obama looks like a champ. You are just too dumb or unwilling to notice.
Everything about Obama cries out "I'm a wimp." Taking credit for the Seals' achievement with Bin Laden and the British and French for Libya doesn't change that perception. Ask A-Jad and his Mullahs making fun of our kindergarten hero President all the way to the Bomb.
Obama looks and acts wimpy. The only reason he pulled the trigger on Osama was for political gain. Why else would he sanction the death of a fellow Muslim?
***Top Gun
Plan A- do nothing; plan B -lead from behind. But who'll do the actual fighting? certainly not sissy Obimbo. Behind means behind. nobody else willing to do the hard work for Obimbo? revert to plan A.
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Hey Top Moron.
Will you be happy when Obama sets up a no fly zone
and Russian jets shoot them down ?
You do know that Russia has a fully functional military base in Syria, right ?
Will you be happy when Obama puts boots on the ground, and every other Arab nation
Cries about the American Invasion" sends more Islamics to fight and More American troops come home in coffins ?
Come on TUFF guy, you sit behind your keyboard bashing our President, you got all the answers huh ???
Today, as an American citizen i proudly stand behind President Obama,
and call you a freaking.....M O R O N !!!!!!!
If the united States reinstituted the DRAFT tomorrow, all US troops would be out of Iraq and afghanistan before Labor Day... and so long as the DRAFT remained in effect, you would not see the US get involved in any other conflicts unless a general war was declared by Congress.
If you want to end US agression; cut the DOD budget; and bring all the troops home, reinstitute the draft. It is a sure fire way to have Congress and the White House get real on these things
How to remove Assad,Let Jordanian and US troops invade Syria?
Obama's Plan A
A = al Assad stays in power
A = Atrocities will continue
A = Arab World losing all faith in Obama and America
A = Avoid any real decisions before the election
Arab world lost faith in Obama when he backed Mubarak. Assad is a waste of humanity, yes, but at least he's not going around the world being judge, jury, and executioner to other countries and killing their citizens in drone attacks to save his political hide from criticism.
did you ever think that if he left his house he might be shot
Yes al Assad is only judge, jury, and executioner in his own country - so the only women and children he slaughters are his own citizens - what a guy!
Well, then! By being judge, jury, and executioner, he's only admiring our Great Leader Obama!
PLAN "A"
Let the UN look things over.. Say... Oh... that's too bad.
PLAN "B"
See plan A
FORWARD to One world government run by the UN
So the UN is completely powerless and cannot do anything but shake their heads. This will result in the UN ruling the world. OK.
This is the engine room calling Captain Barack Obama of the USS titantic. Captain are you sure you want us to go full speed ahead into those icebergs?
Shall I have Nancy Pelosi set up the deck chairs so we watch us all sink into obilvion?
Shall I have harry reid call a press conference so we can blame Bush and Cheney?
obama is sooo confused-talk or do nothing
I don't think he's confused – the GOP already framed Libya as a bad move with their "wait for Obama to act then disagree with whatever he did" policy. This gives him a free pass on Syria because even GOP supporters would notice the level of hypocrisy for condemning him for both. Lucky break too because Libya went as smoothly as it possibly could and Syria would be a nightmare. Guess the GOP played their hand badly on that one.
Where in the world are you getting the info that Libya is going smoothly? It's oil fields have been sold off to Western oil interests and the US military has, I believe, as least 300 men in the country to protect them. There really is a sectarian war going on, with Libyan cities overflowing with arms and killings. Even a WWII graveyard full of Western servicemen from that era got desecrated.
Wait, I see. You get your news from CNN–Corporate (or Crappy, whichever you prefer) News Network....
Obama is over his head and has been since taking option. Obama reads form the teleprompter - all decisions are made by his invisible handlers
This isn't George W. Bush bowing down to Cheney and Rove. I hate to tell you but Obama is one of the smartest POTUS we'be ever had. He's no C student like GWB.
Lets just wait till he schools Romney in the debates like he did McCain, no teleprompter. Really it is irresponsible to not have notes or a teleprompter and speak carefully, even with a teleprompter Bush sounded like a complete moron – and yes he also used one.
Maybe Obama should write stuff on his hands like Palin did ?
You teleprompter morons understand that even Regan used one ?
Why dont you join the hunt for that birth certificate.
Try looking under a rock.
Naw, he is just too smart for idiots like you.
Plan A ain't working. Neither is the UN's plan. Bin Laden may have been snagged on Obama's watch, but not much else that Obama has done regarding foreign policy has worked.
obama turned over the guy is resonsible for getting his location to the muslim extremist,bye fool obama 2012
The UN plan isn't working because the West is supporting the terrorism behind the attacks in Syria. The West doesn't want peace; it wants war, just like in Libya.
Do they have oil? No? Let's not help then...
Libya had: a UN mandate, an organized and unified rebel force that controlled territory, wide open terrain to engage government forces, and a much weaker military.
But year, oil.
Have we told them what poo poo faces they are yet or are we saving that sort of heavy remark for a REALLY high death toll?
Plan A is stay out of other countries business!
Sure, to a point. But we're at the point where even the most libertarian government need to reevaluate whether direct intervention is the only alternative. Assad appears to have become a real nutcase.
OK, quick quiz: how many nations has Syria invaded over the last 10-15 years? You say, none? BINGO! They even withdrew from Lebanon!
Now, how about the US? Well, its got Iraq (well, not counting the first war in Iraq of course), Afghanistan, interventions in Haiti, Honduras, and Venezuela (supported the ouster of democratically-elected governments and the installation of unelected regimes), Libya, Yemen, and Pakistan (and I know I'm leaving out many lesser events). While at the same time, US gov't threw up its hands when it came to saving New Orleans from Katrina and thus thousands of its own were displaced.
Which, do you think, sounds like the nutter government here?
We are going to stick with Plan A because there is no Plan B. This makes sense, (I think.)
The only plan the USshould have is stay out of this mess. The last thing we need is to be funding another Sunni who might come back to haunt us 20 years down the road.
Hopefully we're not as dumb as that anymore.
Amen. Let the Syria Civil War rage on with the US sitting this one out. If Turkey, China, Russia, or anybody else wants to intervene-go ahead. For all these jingoistic journalists and posters who want the US to intervene, contact CNN, and ask them to film you invading Syria on TV. I will watch you taken prisoner by the forces of President Bashir Al-Assad.
Syria has a few things going for it. 1. Chemical and Biological Weapons 2. A military ally in Russia 3. It is/was a terrorist (supportor) state.
True, very true.
There are a handful of good, decent arguments here about how to find a real Plan B. Why we should, or should not intervene. Sure, it sensitive, geopolitically, and they haven't hit us first, Iran, nukes, Russia, China… I get it.
But here's the thing, if we eventually are going to give in and save those people's lives anyway –and we will– let's just get in there and hurry it up already, asap. Dozens die, on the average, every day that we postpone. Let's just try to be as swift and as clean as we possibly can be.
We did a pretty good job with Libya. Yemen strikes are not too terrible. Pakistan complains a lot, but bin Laden was gone in under an hour, and we have fewer collateral casualties… So, let's just do this with as much care as we can, and get it over with.
Its gonna happen sooner or later. Lets just go, get it under control and be quick about it.
We shouldn't have to police the world. We'll end up being the bad guy if and when we do. Besides, why should we place our men and women in harm's way. It's not like these people loves us, on the contrary, they hates us, why should we involve ourselves in their bloody battles. Arabs are always killing each other, it's in their blood. USA, stay out.
PRAISE BE TO ALLAH!!!!!!!!!!
Praise about what, idiott, about the deaths and mayhem from your brethren perpetarted on women and children with their hands tied behind their backs, nonetheless? Decent folk everywhere are sick and tired of you all.
And, of course, the US and its citizenry are so "decent" that it has the highest incident of child poverty of any so-called "developed" nation?
Hey Mo! How are those 77 male virgins workin out for you? Bet you wish you could go back to sheep...
God willing, all the A holes in the Mideast will find their way to oblivion
Why do many of the Islamic faith kill so many others of the Islamic faith? I think many of Islamic faith are great, but (like other religions) the Islamic faith has some extremists who are out of control.
Regardless of the politics going on in these post today something must be done to stop the killing of innocent children and adults both men and woman by this regime or rebels, whomever it is. I am a Obama supporter but I am also a human and we as a country cannot stand by and watch this country kill these little babies. If our President does not step in and stop this bloodshed then it's time to elect a new president. We as the United States of America stand for something greater and nobel in this barbaric world. If we can go to war in Iraq for oil then surely we can go to war in this country to save the lives of these innocent babies. Damn, have we become so cold and selfish that we want to allow this type of absolute destruction to continue.
Waht about the Americans (soldiers)lilling the babies and women in Afganistan?. Talking pictures with body parts and letting soldiers aquited after they were charged with killing innocent people?
Who was acquited? Because trust me, the "soldiers" (I use that term loosely for them) that committed those crimes are in prison... Trust me, I'm now in the company that they belonged to. Check your facts before blowing off like you know what you are talking about. And what babies and women do we kill? IF it does happen, it's because we are defending ourselves, and whoever was shooting at us is using them as human shields. We try very hard to keep the damage to a minimum. There was the instance of the mass killing by one soldier, who is still on trial. We police up our own for the most part. Don't like it? Feel free to move to Iran or Afghanistan anytime you want. But I'm sure you won't...
Yes, it is a sad situation, but the role of government is to protect those within the borders, not outside. A very sad precedent was set when a single man could authorize the deployment of thousands of American soldiers without the vote of Congress. Unfortunately, a move into Syria would be seen as "Western Aggression" to anyone in the Middle East and bolster the numbers in anti-American terrorist organizations. No, in this case and in future ones we will have to wait for other countries to act and even then play a minimalist role. Some may argue that "that's what we did with Hitler", but 2012 Syria is no 1940 Germany. The same goes for Iran and North Korea.
There are many atrocities here in the United States that could be addressed with the money spent on foreign wars.
rickshaw, I disagree about the 'western aggression' part. The Syrians are screaming for help. They're asking us, 'What are you waiting for?' We can't ignore this brutality.
And no, of course its not Hitler, nobody is. But it is a lot like Kosovo.
We need to shut it down, and get out of the way. Then allow the Arab Spring to do its thing.
HA HA HA HA! Are you serious? The US, protecting babies? The US has killed hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq, killed hundreds in NATO bombing in Libya, Obama has a "kill list", and the US is completely let off the hook for effectively declaring war on all the nations where it launches drone strikes that kill whole families.
I can't believe you are serious. Do your research, if you are.
if we were in iraq for oil, then why are the chinese getting it all ?
Cuz we botched it, from the very beginning.
We're just lucky there are some survivors today.
If you are talking to me, China isn't getting all the oil. The oil is sitting in containers waiting to be bid up by futures market speculators to drive prices up at the pump. And to make the oil companies richer than Croesus once again.
Heh, what's this supposed to mean?
'I am a Obama supporter but I am also a human'.
You want President obama to send in troops to stop the killing ?
In order to stop the killing American troops would have to fight against Syrian troops, right ?
And Russian troops (Military base in Syria) right ?
And Iranian troops , right ?
And all of the Muslims from Iraq, Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon, Egypt, Yemen, Saudi Arabia and all of the others
who would fight the Imperial infidels from invading Muslim lands, right ?
When American troops start coming home in coffins, you will be happy then, right ?
There are those preaching war already and they are not even elected yet. But yet they talk about the Debt Crisis. Well, to those to hate this administration, who is going o pay for a war against Syria? Whose sons and daughters are going to fight?
Not Mitt Romneys.
everybody crying for the children need to reconsider who's side you are on, im w/ syria, these rebels are bringing the government response into these cities, there is a govenment in the country recognized by the world, these rebels started this now everybody is boohoo they are killing the rebels, if you dont want your citizens to die, don't start a rebellion. pretty simple. im sure it wasn't good before the rebellion but rebels started this, let them fight it or die trying.
UN has like 5 main countries that get a veto, china and russia are two of them, US isn't bowing down to either of them by following the rules of the UN.
Don't arm these rebels, don't even acknowledge it, look at africa, we let people die there all the time, it's time the world realizes that Americans don't care what happens to them, we have our own problems, education, immigration and unemployment, it's time we stop our tax money from saving the world and fix our problems at home.
So the government is justified to randomly kill people? Just anyone who happens to live in a certain city?
Also there would be no "rebels" if the government had allowed protests. But they resorted to shooting rather then listening.
Wrong. Just like in Libya, the West saw an opportunity to bring down an enemy government, and took it. Mysteriously, prisoners got out of Iraqi jails and were sent to be trained in Turkey as "opposition" fighters. Lebanon has become a major weapons supply route for weapons coming from LIBYA (you know, that place where the US-led NATO forces "liberated" right into the hands of Western oil companies) where Khaddafi's arms depots got raided.
These very same "freedom fighters" who have also trained with the US-connected Kosovo Liberation Army in what was a province of Serbia before that was "liberated" by NATO right into the hands of fundamentalist terrorists who also received funding from the West in their heyday?
You forget (or perhaps you didn't know) that in America, you can't occupy a park in NY as a means of protest. If you plan to protest something like–oh, say, a NATO meeting in Chicago, or a Presidential Convention in Minneapolis–be prepared to be spied on and raided, beaten, then arrested.
Ah, the blessings of democracy!
did you read what you just said ? so it's ok for obama to kill children because of the wall street protests
Plan A: Ignore it and hope it goes away until after the election
Plan B: Get America troops killed.
Why not simply assassinate this bugger?
Cut the snakes head off and eventually the snake stops thrashing around. Is assassination any worse than standing by idlely while woman and children civilians die? Is assassination by a small team any worse than sending many of our men and woman into yet another civil unrest situation not on US lands?
He represents the majority of the Syrian people, including 2 million Christians that will be slaughtered by the rebels if he is gone.
Actually, Assad,s Baath government is a minority. I am not sure where you heard that the Christians were behind him.
I have heard the same as Jackola stated... and I heard it from sources in Syria not main stream news.
Propaganda from assad to keep the Christians on his side.
If you assassinate him, how do you know his successor will be any better? What if Al Qaeda takes over Syria?
The question to be asked is: do we have a compelling national interest that needs to be defended by intervening in Syria?
No.
Israel controls the US, as you would a puppet...
Michael Mukasey Recently appointed as US Attorney General. Mukasey also was the judge in the litigation between developer Larry Silverstein and several insurance companies arising from the destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001.
Michael Chertoff Former Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, at the Justice Department; now head of Homeland Security.
Richard Perle One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. A very likely Israeli government agent, Perle was expelled fromSenatorHenry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy. He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam. Perle came from one the above mentionedpro-Israelthinktanks,the AEI.Perle is one ofthe leading pro-Israeli fanatics leading this Iraq war mongering within the administration and now in the media.
Paul Wolfowitz Former Deputy Defense Secretary, and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Wolfowitz is a close associate of Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military. His sister lives in Israel. Wolfowitz came from the above mentioned Jewish thinktank, JINSA. Wolfowitz was the number two leader within the administration behind this Iraq war mongering. He later was appointed head of the World Bank but resigned under pressure from World Bank members over a scandal involving his misuse of power.
Lawrence (Larry) Franklin The former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst with expertise in Iranian policy issues who worked in the office of UndersecretaryofDefense for Policy Douglas Feithand reported directly to Feith's deputy, William Luti, was sentenced January 20, 2006, "to more than 12 years in prison for giving classified information to an Israeli diplomat" and members of the pro-Israel lobbying group American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).
Played like a fiddle.
There are traitors in our midst comrades.
Thanks. I saw verbatim the exact same posting on a different article under a different user name. Cut and paste propaganda campaign.
Simply because it's "cut and paste" doesn't make it any less truthful.
Question: What nation attacked the U.S.S liberty for a full hour killing 30+ U.S sailors?
Answer: Israel.
Despite this FACT the house just recently passed AIPAC sponsored Unlimited Military Aid for Israel Bill(H.R 4133) Passes House by a vote of 411-2.
We are their puppet plain and simple. You pro-Zionist love denying that.
I prefer Plan B. Syria and most of the Middle East Arab Nations are an abortion!
Poor old Obama (Oh-Blame-ya). This is yet another mess that George Bush left for him to have to deal with. Yes We Can!
Syria is Bush's problem? Get for real, dope smoker!
It just don't make sense why they jus don't send an Assassin in there and Kill the MF
if we do come up with a plan please dont listen to Romney who says we should help arm the rebels. did we not learn from al qaeda who we armed and the taliban who we armed?? yeah they go do what we tell them then once the job is done they turn on us everytime
Since you're obviously waiting for Obama to come up with that plan, that's a very BIG "IF".
I was going to mention this. Even in Afghanistahn, the soldiers are shooting us in the back.
Obama is doing this right. We don't need to act like cowboys and get the US into another war.
So, just let them round up the kids and slowly kill them? America is losing it's soul...
No, it's not losing its soul, it's grabbing its balls. We don't need to police every country. We have our own problems here.
I like the idea of staying on plan A due to there is no plan B!
Yeah, lets throw some more American soldiers in the meatgrinder
so you can have soul.
The UN has no Plan B? Since when has the UN ever had a credible plan of its own? WE are part of the UN and most of the plans the UN has adopted (as related to this kind of thing) have come from us. So if we're just waiting around for the UN to come up with one it will be a long long wait. How about we get some sanctions going, and air lift some supplies to rebel areas? And start enforcing a no fly zone? Do some things to raise the pressure on Syria. And why on earth are we acting like we need Russia's permission to do anything? Russia's not going to give it. And they aren't Syria. We can form a coalition of the willing and get going. The sadism of hacking children's skulls with axes or slashing them with knives until they die is animalistic and we should do more than just wring our hands for crying out loud!
I always find this emotional rhetoric to be the most vile of it all. You swallow everything the MSM claims as if some deity laid it out from a bush that was on fire. Here's some FACTS for you:
1. Syria hasn't harmed any Americans other than those who put themselves in harms way in that country.
2. Syria hasn't done anything as of yet to harm America or America's interests.
3. The government of Syria is engaged in a civil war with its own citizens.
4. It is not America's responsibility nor right to police what Syria MIGHT be doing to it's citizens.
5. America is not the world police nor do we have any right acting as such.
6. Any military involvement in Syria(or Iran) could quickly escalate into a World War between the vast majority of the east AND west, which would result in not only a few deaths but the deaths of MILLIONS.
7. Any further military involvement MOST certainly will be the final nail in America's extremely fragile(if not already defunct) economy.
It never ceases to amaze me at how the hypocrisy of the right and far left continues. When the far right screams for war it's always for "greed", yet when the ultra-left screams for war it's always for "humanitarian reasons". Both are pure B.S and it's still war for no good reason when it's none of our business.
I agree with most of what you said, but don't forget that there are voices on the "extreme" right and left who tell the truth about whatever regime...ooops, PRESIDENT....happens to have invaded....damn, I'll get it right one day...GOT ELECTED into the Oval Office and Congress.
There is a Russian military base in Syria you fool.
You want a no fly zone, so Russians can shoot down America Jets.
You are a very sick puppy.
The Polish Foreign Minister is correct and plan A is another example. Reminds me of the naiveté of Chamberlain et all regarding Hitler. "If we just keep wishing good thoughts it will all fix itself." As long as the administration think China and Russia are friends and yield to them the US will be subservient to those whose ultimate aim is to rule us. We need someone with the strength of Reagan and the discernment to recognize evil and deal with it.
I completely agree on each of your points. What we've seen so far is feckless foreign policy.
And, are you going to volunteer to go and fight that war. I doubt it.
@Nils Hruch
Very well said!
Hitler had a war machine ready to attack its neighbors.
This is a civil war.
Fail.
Why would Syria's civil war be our fight? The GOP seems to want another war for no reason.
They are trying to blame Obama for something again!
Allowing innocents to be killed without a strong response from the world only repeats what the world did when Hitler was trying to rule the world and eradicate all non-Aryan's. Weakness means continue what you are doing. The Syrian situation shows once again the futility of the UN where the worlds worst human rights violators get to serve on the UN Human Rights Commission. Real leadership stands for what is right regardless of whomever else decides to stand. China is weak against Syria because China does the same thing. Russia uses Iran and Syria to harass the US. You can choose to play their game or make your own.
If the US keeps taking care of all the world's problems then other countries have no incentive to do it for themselves. We can not afford, in our children's lives especially, to keep acting as the world policeman. It is time for other countries to step up to the plate.
Human rights as defined by whom? You? The UN? The U.S.? Give me a break.
What i do not get is why we are not 100x more concerned about what is going on in Mexico. The drug problem and amount of deaths far surpasses what is going on in Syria
Kinda tough to be on both sides, no? After all, we did arm the cartels and now you suggest we use another set of guns to disarm them? Kinda like an Obama surge against a Holder surge, no?
The "drug problem" is in the US not Mexico. It's supply and demand.
*** we did arm the cartels....
You mean The Bush Administration armed the cartels right ?
Fast & Furious was started under them.
Obama comes into the White House, and something that had been in the works
for years, goes wrong, and its Obamas fault.
You people never give up.
Because Assad is a heartless tyrant! The world would be much better off without him! Getting him out will also influence our policy on Iran in a very helpful way, by eliminating there close ally. How can we stand by and watch thousands of people get slaughtered? It's what we stand for LIBERTY and FREEDOM, and when somebody try's to ruthlessly crush it we must fight back for it! Plus this time it will be a broad coalition of nearly 19 countries all pitching in. We just got done running a massive military drill with 18 other arab and europe countries dubbed "Operation Eager Lion". I think the time is coming that obama pulls the trigger.
You are kidding, right?
IF OBAMA HAD AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT IT WOULD DIE OF LONELINESS
Sideshow BOB?
Back to your T-Party meds Bob... After all, the President has taken out Bin Laden AND Kaddafy (that your GOP resisted) and he hasn't even thrown up a 'Mission Accomplished " banner yet!
Actually the military found Bin Laden and took him out. THIS is what Obama actually inherited from George Bush. Obama did nothing more than say "OK...". Big accomplishment!
Horse hockey. Under Bush, the military was prevented from dealing with bin Laden on several occasions. His family ties are too strong and his failed biz ventures have been bailed out too many times by the bin Ladens for shrub to drop the hammer on Osama.
Like!
*** marctheduck
Actually the military found Bin Laden and took him out. THIS is what Obama actually inherited from George Bush. Obama did nothing more than say "OK...". Big accomplishment!
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But Obama inherited Fast & Furious from Bush, but you people are blaming that on Obama.
In order for troops to enter another sovereign nation to carry out a mission,
it has to be cleared by the Commander in Chief.
That would be President Obama, you fool.
If he did something,like sending troops into Syria, you and many would scream, "Wasting Lives and money again!"
The guy is a coward. He thinks about how to avoid difficult situations. And he thinks about who he can blame them on. Certainly nothing is ever his responsibility. Not exactly "The Buck Stops Here" kind of president. More like a narrow shoulders liberal is all.
Moron tea-bagger. Take off your GOP 3-D glasses.
If your comments were not so asinine, would you be posting them in all caps?
President Obama, our great visionary, will be reelected; I wish to congratulate him ahead of his reelection.
Obama would look nice on Mount Rushmore
THE I D I O T OBAMA HAS NO PLAN
Yes he does.
To keep American soldiers from dying in another war.
Pretty good plan huh ?
Gov Romney isn't in the same league as President Obama concerning foreign affairs. Gov Romney continues to associate with people like Trump and Adelson which shows that he lacks good judgement.
LOL! What is Obama's foreign policy? I've never heard one articulated, unless it's to "lead from behind". Whatever that means.
Obamas foreign policy has been going around to various world leaders and apologizing for his predecessor.
A strong leader doesnt have to sit on his horse and scream WAR !
I prefere the smart, quiet ones who think things over.
Grog Says,
Marctheduck pee himself.
Start to smell bad, ha ha ha ha,
Grog make funny.
This is typical American doing...create a problem then send in crises management team to meet American agenda......if you believe that American hands are clean in all this mess then you have your head buried deep in the sand....All the news you read and hear are one sided and there is always two sides to the story.....what the other side story will only be told much later the other story of Iraq was told after it did not matter that people know that there was no WMD......
I know what you mean. For all we know those children deliberately went out of their way to put their heads in the way of those soldiers axes just to impede their progress toward whatever the soldiers were swinging them at. It's the kids fault!
Actually, why would the Syrian Army–after having committed such a grave massacre–leave the town and let the "opposition" come in and snap photos? After all, when the US Army committed one of its many Iraqi massacres in Fallujah, they made sure they kept the media out.
Thats not an American problem.
Its a NEOCON problem.
Ahhh, Soo, the very President that promised he would close Gitmo, leave Iraq, go into Afghanstan in 2009 and get out by 2011 now has the US in 7 Middle Eastern wars. Obama is now drone-bombing Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Somolia and Libya. And I bet Axelrod thinks it ain't politically adventagous to strike Syria right now, especially drone-bombing, might hit a Russian Observer. So, here we have Obama leading from behind, again.
You Obabots are something else, before Obama got elected you were completely Anti-Military, now you condone drone-bombing. When Obama was for DOMA so were you, now Obama is for Same-Sex marriage and you are too. What's next ? You gona embrace Islam, Socialism, Communism ?
Whereas you don't seem to be "for" anything...just anti. Heckuva position to have.
Whereas you don't seem to be "for" anything...just anti. Heckuva position to have.
You see what you want to see. If all the violence ended today, you'd find a way not to give him credit. Foreign policy has actually been a strength of his. Your against bombing militants in Pakistan? Not much for self preservation are you.
Obama thought playing President would be easy, everyone would bow and genuflect and the left would rule the world. He probably thought he would be Ruler of the World by acclamation by now. When reality sets in domestically and worldwide he just doesn't have the stuff to get the job done.
Ratt you are a complete idiot, what is your plan exaclty? Spend more money and send more American soldiers to die for no reason? Obama was able to lead a coalition that was able to take out the dictator of Libya with 0 US casualties and still somehow you were against that. You are a complete hypocrite. And FYI the drone strikes are the most effective tools we have ever had against the terrorists and once again you can thank Obama for that. Oh wait you can't because even if Obama found the cure for cancer you would come out bitching about how that was going to cost the health care industry.
I completely agree with you, Ratt. These Obamantions look just like the Republicans they love to decry as "not looking out for the common man". While they refuse to acknowledge Obama is in the same war criminal class as Bush–which is why Obama isn't prosecuting those admitted war criminals!
Republicans wouldnt let him close GITMO.
You think we should go into Syria ?
The first thing we would have to do, is take out that Russian military base.
So you think we should get into a war with Russia ?
Your hatred for our president has turned you into a babbling idiot.
The success record for western intervention in these Muslim theocracies is dismal and we've lost billions and thousands of our men in these futile efforts. This is a civil war! Religious factions jostling and slaughtering for power! We need to send a clear message that it's not acceptable and yet we need to realize that these primitive cultures have no human rights and value for life as we do. Sad to see this slaughter but THEY don't seem to mind in the other Muslim nations who won't intervene.
Primitive cultures? But the West is so enlightened, it built weapons that can wipe out every living thing on earth during one of its little misadventures called World War II.
Meanwhile, Iran does not pursue weapons of mass destruction partly because Islam says it is a grave sin.
Go figure about who is the real "primitive culture" on the planet!
The Arab League contries have tons of money and can afford to do something. If they are unwilling to act to save fellow muslims and stop the senseless slaughter of children, why should we? There are poor, hungry, starving children right here in the U.S. Let's take care of them instead of getting into another war while Russia and China watch and laugh at us for meddling in everybody's mess while they profit from selling weapons to everybody.
Well said!
It is appauling and very ironinc to see the children of Holocast survivors standing idle on what is going in syria. Infact they are supporting the ASSAD regime by giving him more time to continue his killing hobbies and destroy the infrastructure of syria. It is very unbeleavable to see Hitler genes in them promoting destruction of humanity and spreading the superiority complex. Where are those voices who said holocast no more. Why they are silent. Apparently it is a selfserving propaganda. Assad 's cousin Mahkloof is highly connected with the security of israel.
I'm sorry, but that is an utterly ridiculous claim. THE WEST committed the Holocaust. And many other holocausts that you may or may not have heard about with its interventions in other countries. The latest was Libya, where the UN blames NATO for the massacre of hundreds of Libyans.
You send Israeli troops into a Muslim country and you will have WW3.
You are either very stupid, or you just hate Jews and found a way to throw a cheap shot.
The best thing Israel can do is to sit back, and quietly mind its own business.
PAKISTAN.....The New Gateway to Central Asia and Europe.
With a population of over 180 million most of whom are well educated, English speaking, entrepreneurial and a cultural and social fit with Central Asians...Pakistan has now become the new face and gateway to Central Asia and Europe. Pakistan will thus span this region and provide the impetus for growth, prosperity and unity among these countries. These are new and exciting times for Pakistanis who should now look forward to their new leadership role aligned with Central Asia and Europe rather than the Subcontinent. We wish them much success as they have sacrificed the most during the past 30 + years creating a new world order.
Really??? Who are you kidding? Pakistan a cesspool of fundamentalist muslim D bags living in the 7th century, leeching off US aid and hiding osama.
Let them die.... every one of the sand rats. I'm sick of hearing about it. Bomb the whole place and get it over with
really! you are truly your name
You're disgusting! I agree with 'Peace.' Good grief, who are you? Why the U.S isn't taking a more prominent step in anything I can only assume is for economic reasons. We can't really afford to go further into the hole of war debt, but there comes a point (Like when massacres of women and children start occurring) that we need to return to moral duty!
Send in American troops to help Syria.
Muslims scream about Imperial invasion and every muslim nation
will send troops to fight the imperial dogs.
Shouldnt we be trying to avoid World War 3 ?
The smartest thing we can do is to keep out of it.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves in the race to military intervention. The massacre rumors have been horrendous, and thousands have died over the last year.
But make no mistake. If we intervene with our military, we won't be handing out daisies. We'll go in with guns and guided missiles. We'll blow the crap out of their entire infrastructure. A whole lot more people will die, perhaps tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands.
And when its all done, there's no guarantee that we'll leave the country in a better state than its in right now.
There is no guarantee Putin will not leave NATO a wreck. Some people apparently haven't noticed that Russia has got its act back together in no uncertain terms. It's arguably more powerful now than in the Cold War. And it's not like Putin's sane... he sees enemies on all sides and naked self-interest seems forced upon him by all comers. But he is not a coward, and he is capable of anything.
Go ask the Syrian people how well Plan A is going. I think maybe it's time for a different plan, maybe like Plan Z.
Yes, because its our responsibility to save them right? How did that work out in the other countries we’ve help liberate? Oh thats right.. they blame us for their problems.
Let African nations step up to stop the violence and foot the bill.
Oops I meant Arab league.
You poor Americans serve Israel as a slave serves its master...
Michael Mukasey Recently appointed as US Attorney General. Mukasey also was the judge in the litigation between developer Larry Silverstein and several insurance companies arising from the destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001.
Michael Chertoff Former Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, at the Justice Department; now head of Homeland Security.
Richard Perle One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. A very likely Israeli government agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy. He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam. Perle came from one the above mentioned pro-Israel thinktanks, the AEI. Perle is one of the leading pro-Israeli fanatics leading this Iraq war mongering within the administration and now in the media.
Paul Wolfowitz Former Deputy Defense Secretary, and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Wolfowitz is a close associate of Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military. His sister lives in Israel. Wolfowitz came from the above mentioned Jewish thinktank, JINSA. Wolfowitz was the number two leader within the administration behind this Iraq war mongering. He later was appointed head of the World Bank but resigned under pressure from World Bank members over a scandal involving his misuse of power.
Lawrence (Larry) Franklin The former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst with expertise in Iranian policy issues who worked in the office of Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith and reported directly to Feith's deputy, William Luti, was sentenced January 20, 2006, "to more than 12 years in prison for giving classified information to an Israeli diplomat" and members of the pro-Israel lobbying group American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).
All traitors within your country....
Rise up.
Indra, you are poor not the Americans. Israel is a strategic US foothold in the middle east
Actually not. We have several, much more strategically placed allies.
Israel is a known detriment to US foreign policy.
Yeah we will and exterminate this disgusting meme created by an illiterate pedophile goat f er.
How is the"Arab Spring" working for you clowns? Guess that's what happens when you have to many tools wandering around in the sand. Sure is fun watching you idiots eliminate each other.
You should stop hitting yourself in head with tools.
oh that was funny...we're sticking with plan A...and others have conceded there is no Plan B at this point. Good call guys.
I for one am appalled by the lack of effort from Russia and China to condem Assad's regime. I guess it doesn't matter how many women and children are slaughtered like animals; as long as theres money to be made those countries will remain tight-lipped. Russia and China are completely moraless.
I'm glad you realize that. Now just imagine what they are capable of committing against our troops. And before you say "who cares I'm not one of them" ... those troops must be replaced. The Russians are game for a war of attrition - no one has ever defeated them because no one is so ruthless as they. America has squandered its resources and faces inevitable decline... Russia on the other hand....
Ah I just had an epiphany... the media is blowing this stuff out of proportion to increase attention. The cable news channels have developed a strategy of hawking war.
morality? usa? please im still waiting for cuba to be free.. wheres the morality in that? oh wait no oil ! keep em suffering dont need a super power 90 miles off the coast. but hey give them free entry if they make it here its a fair trade right?
Hey, Nothing stops you from going to fight in Syria as a mercenary. You can do it!
Wow! Obama is really getting tuff now. Bet Russia is quaking in their boots over Obama's worthless Syrian sanctions.
Ya, I'm sure mcain could do a better job.....
God your stupid....
*you're. Fitting.
Who is playing president stupid? McCain lost the election, or do you remember?
You are right Hussein,
we should blow up that Russian military base that is in Syria and start a war with Russia.