A difference of opinion on Iran threat
March 1st, 2012
03:10 AM ET

A difference of opinion on Iran threat

By Kevin Flower reporting from Jerusalem

As national security teams in Washington and Jerusalem busily prepare for the meeting between U.S. President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the pages of newspapers in Israel and the U.S. are full of analysis, reporting and predictions about what exactly the two will discuss.

Iran and its nuclear program, of course, are expected to top the agenda. All eyes will be on the post-meeting statement that the two leaders are expected to issue as well as the respective speeches each will deliver before the annual Washington gathering of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the pro-Israel lobbying group better known as AIPAC.

Israel and the United States believe Iran is working to develop a nuclear weapon program while the government in Tehran maintains its program is peaceful.

It's unlikely either leader will offer any definitive or public answers to some of the burning questions surrounding American and Israeli intentions on Iran, but every utterance will be closely scrutinized for clues to some of the following unknowns:

  • Is there any agreement on exactly how much longer sanctions on Iran should be left in place before a military option is pursued?
  • What are the American and Israeli red lines that will trigger military action and is there agreement on them?
  • Would Israel really attack Iran without prior notice to the United States?
  • Can Israel expect military support from the United States in the event of a surprise attack on Iran?

These are just a few of the complex issues the two leaders, not known for their warm and fuzzy relationship, will have to address.
Publicly, they will be looking to present a unified and public front against what each side sees as the dangers of Iran's nuclear program. They will do their best to downplay differences despite a flurry of recent reports that Israel wants to hear stronger language from the White House on Iran that makes military force a clear option should sanctions fail.

The meeting between Obama and Netanyahu will follow a months-long dialogue between the two countries that Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Dan Meridor has described as both an "intimate" and "intensive" conversation "about the purpose of stopping Iran from going nuclear."

As part of that conversation, Israel has received a veritable who's who of American military, intelligence and diplomatic officials coming to Jerusalem to offer reassuring words about the American commitment to the Jewish state.

Last week alone saw a visit by both the White house national security adviser, Thomas Donilon, and National Intelligence Director James Clapper. In January, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey came calling.

But friendly and frank meetings aside, the two countries see the threat from Iran differently. As one former Israeli government official explained it, the United States regards the possibility of an Iranian nuclear weapon as a threat to American interests whereas Israel see it as a possible threat to its existence.

Reading the clock is another area where Israel and the United States appear to diverge. The Israeli government has been pushing for quick and decisive action against Iran while Washington has been suggesting a more deliberative path.

Recently, the Dempsey told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that "it's not prudent at this point to decide to attack Iran." But when asked about that comment this week at a Senate hearing, Dempsey said he was misunderstood.

"I didn't counsel Israel not to attack ... we had a conversation with them about time, the issue of time," he told the Senate hearing without further elaboration.

It's these differences in perspective that may be hard for the two countries to bridge.

"I need to remind myself that America is a sovereign country" Meridor said recently in a briefing with journalists. "Everybody has his own, every country has his own decision making process and everybody can takes its own decision"

And for Israelis, a decision to unilaterally attack Iran is not one that enjoys widespread support.

A new survey conducted by pollster Shibley Telhami and the Dahaf Institute in Israel indicates that only 19% of Israelis support a military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities without the assistance of the United States. With American help, that number jumped to 42% while 34% of Israelis believed their country should not attack Iran regardless.

The poll also found that 39% of Israelis believe even if their country does attack Iran without White House consent, America will still rally to help Israel diplomatically with another 27% saying the U.S. would help militarily.

But the Obama administration is not saying what it would do in such a scenario, choosing not to delve in such speculation.

"I do not expect that I or anyone else will engage in speculation about how we might react should something or the other happen in the future with regards to Iran's program," White House spokesman Jay Carney said on Wednesday. "I think you'll hear from us a very consistent message, and I fully expect that the president's conversations with Prime Minister Netanyahu will continue to be as detailed and candid as they always have been."


Filed under: Arms Control • Iran • Israel • Middle East • Nuclear • Obama
soundoff (169 Responses)
  1. Mike

    Thomas Donilon is accused of leaking national security secrets to the NyT. That would make him a tritor. If this is proven true, he should be strung up with the WikiLeaks traitor, Alrdidge Aimes and the rest.

    June 26, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Reply
  2. bobcat2u

    Israel has been boasting of their iron dome missle defense system. If they feel that strongly about its effectiveness, and they unilaterally choose to attack Iran, then so be it. What they get in retaliation will be their own damn fault.

    March 2, 2012 at 8:47 pm | Reply
  3. Larry

    According to the Bible Israel will be destroyed. The smart thing for the people of Israel to do is evacuate and leave Netanyahu and the rest of his warmongers there to suffer their fate.

    Iran is just itching for Israel to retaliate triggering Russia and China to nuke the h e l l out of them, hence Armageddon.

    So I say, let it happen, fulfill Bible prophecy.

    According to the Bible, the Jews are responsible for the death of Jesus.

    Why do you think that they are on a tiny spot on the planet surrounded by billions of enemies?

    This is payback.

    March 2, 2012 at 7:34 pm | Reply
    • John

      Be carefull what you wish for,, the bible is all fiction but if there is some prophesy with intent to fulfill prophesy it states that the final conflict is between the US and Israel.

      March 2, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Reply
      • bobcat2u

        @ John
        Just exactly where in the bible does it say the final conflict is between the US and Israel ? And exactly what bible ?
        You shouldn't spout untruths. People will find out you are an idiot.

        March 2, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
  4. Larry

    According to the Bible, Jesus was a Hebrew, had skin like bronze and hair like wool (n a p p y). He was a ‘brotha’

    The Jews didn’t like the idea of a minority muscling in on their turf so the ratted him out and had him killed.

    After all these years, nothing has changed.

    March 2, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Reply
  5. D Russell

    RE: "I need to remind myself that America is a sovereign country" Meridor said recently in a briefing with journalists. "

    Because ever since they elected Obama, the are not doing exactly what AIPAC is telling them. I just don't understand, America used to be an Israeli puppet......

    March 2, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Reply
  6. D

    Well, Israel (Mistaken Existance) single handedly attacks others, deprieves people of their property and making it their own. Israel is a master at that. US and Israel have a "69" relationship with each other.

    @Heywood Jablowme: If it wasnt for the british, there would not be a United States, so shut up.

    March 2, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Reply
  7. Rick

    If I were Benjamin Netanyahu, I would tell Obama to pound sand. Stop and look at a map. Israel is ~1/100th the size of Iran. Once a button gets pushed on Israel it's game over.

    March 2, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Reply
    • D Russell

      And in response, Obama should tell him that if you want to keep the several billions of dollars we send you every year coming, then start acting like it. And by the way – use the servants entrance on the way out would you Ben.......

      March 2, 2012 at 6:57 pm | Reply
  8. ssiidd

    wonder what will happen if Russia decides to declare its support for Iran as U.S. has for Israel.

    March 2, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Reply
  9. Mark B.

    Well let's see, one is directly the traget of annihalation and one is halfway across the world. One deals in reality and the other in rhetoric. I'm just going to have to go with Israel on this one.

    March 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Reply
  10. Ivan

    Why should they not have a nuclear program?

    Because the only ones that keep telling us that their nuclear development is not for peaceful purpose are Obama and Israel

    Let’s see a President this is clueless and Israel that keeps using us.

    March 2, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Reply
    • Rich

      "Because the only ones that keep telling us that their nuclear development is not for peaceful purpose are Obama and Israel"

      And the European Union. And the IAEA. And Saudi Arabia. Basically everyone who EVER has an opinion with the exception of Iran, Russia (and they're unsure), and China (also unsure).

      So in the face of all the evidence, you trust Iran, a pariah state. Brilliant.

      March 2, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Reply
      • jkk

        actually all 16 us intelligence agencies have reported that Iran abandoned its weapons
        program in 2003 as did the iaea and any other censoring agency his statement was correct only elected officials and mainstream media outlets seem to support the idea they are making a nuclear weapon

        March 3, 2012 at 3:17 am |
  11. jrm03063

    Containment, Containment, Containment! Even a nuclear armed Iran is NOT going to use their handful of crude weapons on Israel – the result would be a smoking radioactive wasteland all across Iran and a guaranteed unified military follow-up from the rest of the world. Let the sanctions run their course – let Iran do what it will in the meantime.

    March 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Reply
    • Heywood Jablowme

      You do realize that you are dealing with mid evil barbarians who admittedly care more about death then life, right?

      March 2, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Reply
      • Disgusted w/warmongers

        Do you realize that you're an idiot?

        March 2, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
      • Rich

        Medieval, not "mid evil". Though they are certainly evil.

        March 2, 2012 at 6:17 pm |
  12. TomGI

    "reporting and predictions about what exactly the two will discuss"
    1.) Ben, "...and we need billions more money..."
    2.) Ben, "...and we want the US to attack Iran..."
    3.) Ben, "...can we borrow an intelligence satellite to spy on someone?"
    4.) Ben, "What time is dinner?"
    5.) Ben, "Is it kosher?"

    March 2, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Reply
    • Heywood Jablowme

      Ben: Why is tomgi and idiot.

      Obama: Its America Ben, your allowed to be as stupid as you like.

      Ben: Oy vay

      March 2, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Reply
  13. Voiceinthewind

    Iran has the right to protect itself from Zionism. Iran has the right to Nukes as long as the Zionists have them. America should not be dragged into Zionists problems created by themselves. Zionism has no place in America or its Politics. Zionist expansion needs to be stopped worldwide. Zionist are terrorists and can't be trusted, Zionists are very evil people.

    March 2, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Reply
    • Leopold

      The difference is Iran's nukes are not for defense. Its a terrorist state that supports terrorism. Their president said it on multiple occasions that he wants to wipe Israel off the map. Do you EVER hear Israel saying anything of such sorts???
      All Israel wants to do is live in peace while all Iran wants to do is wipe it off the map either directly or via proxies like hesbolah.

      March 2, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Reply
      • derka derka

        Bunch of bull if I've ever seen any, learn how to spell before jumping into a hypothetical history lesson, these guys haven't attacked anyone in almost 100 years, even human rights groups within the country say Iran is too weak on the nuclear issue, something stinks, and as usual, it seems to be the American media. Your "what if" scenerio does not work out and never has, nowhere has this ever happened, and to be honest, to repeat what many historians and others have said, Iran is not one to engage in suicidal behavior much less hand off a nuke to some random terrorist, what most do not realize is that terrorists undermine rule, they undermine power and law, and make it appear as if a leader is not in control of his own country, there is no way these fruit loops will get one of these in the near future, its going to be a long time before that happens, mark my words on that. It's hype, its fear, its media, and its a whole lot of tough talking.

        March 2, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
      • jrm03063

        How can you make the "not for defense claim"? But no matter – would you have us pursue immediate war on the Korean Peninsula too (since it's really a similar situation to a nuclear armed Iran). Containment worked against Soviet Russia (their rhetoric was plenty hot back in the day) – it will work against Iran.

        March 2, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
      • Leopold

        You only see what you want to see. Hezbollah is supported in large part by Iran.

        It sounds like you believe everything what clown Ahmadinejad says. He also said holocaust is a myth among other moronic statements.

        March 2, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
      • Ivan

        The only ones that keep telling us that their nuclear development is not for peaceful purpose are Obama and Israel

        Let’s see a president this is clueless and Jews that keep using us for their own gain.

        March 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
      • Leopold

        Since when is Obama supporter of Israel???

        Your anti-semitic views are rooted very deep within...

        March 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
      • Buzzer

        jrm and derka: Go tell this argument to the Saudis to "relax" if Iran gets an nuclear weapon and they don't turn around and pursue one themselves. I guess if you can say with a straight face that you're OK with the entire Persian Gulf region going nuclear then fine, because that is EXACTLY what is going to happen if Iran is allowed to continue...mark my words.

        March 2, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
      • lol

        did you watch the news in past ten years?

        May 29, 2012 at 4:59 am |
    • wpqr

      "Iran has the right to protect itself from Zionists"? When did the 'Zionists" ever threaten Iran? Did any Israeli leader ever say Iran should be wiped off the map? Did Israel ever invade Iran? Does Israel fund terrorist groups like Hebollah and Hamas to kill Iranian civilians?

      March 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Reply
      • Disgusted w/warmongers

        Israel is not a “normal” state. It has no settled borders. It receives a vast amount of foreign aid, even though it is a wealthy first-world country. Unlike other countries, it is not subject to International Law and can break those laws with impunity. It is free to ignore United Nations resolutions without fear of consequences. It can occupy the territory of another nation, imprison its population, assassinate its leaders, torture its citizens, steal their land, and otherwise deny them the rights considered “inalienable” under international law. It is free to slaughter hundreds of defenceless people in the name of “national security” and “self-defense.” It can do all these things — and more — with the blessing of the U.S. government. In sum, Israel is an abnormal state; its foreign policy is dysfunctional, and much of its population is delusional in the belief that antisemitism is the only reason why anyone would question Israel’s special privileges.

        March 2, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
  14. Leopold

    No kidding US and Israel differ on Iran threat. US is not the one to be Iran's first target if Iran does develop a nuclear weapon.
    I'm sure if Iran was developing a ballistic missile at the same time, US would have bombed Iran to hell and back a year ago or even prior!

    March 2, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Reply
    • derka derka

      Nope, again, learn history please Leo.

      March 2, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Reply
      • Leopold

        I see you are passionate about history. However, there was no history in my statement. Just a simple fact about what US would do if Iran were to be developing ballistic missiles at the same time as nukes.

        March 2, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • Rich

      Leo, they ARE developing ballistic missiles while seeking nukes. Our response has been to cluck our tongues and drag our feet and wait for them to succeed.

      March 2, 2012 at 6:21 pm | Reply
  15. Randy

    I am a Jewish American and have always been a strong supporter of Israel. I am deeply troubled by the prospect of yet another war in the middle east. The question is "When will this end?" The Palestinian conflict has no end in sight. Frankly, it seems more hopeless than ever. Now, Israel will bomb every other country that acquires nuclear weapons? Iran is certainly the primary cancer of the region but I hope that war can be avoided. I am sick of wars. Most Americans are.

    March 2, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Reply
  16. M-Theory

    Obama should not change his stance but insist that Iran allow truly impartial inspectors and more transparency. Obama would only lose a small portion of the American Jewish vote for turning away from Israel. I'm Jewish by blood and can tell you that I do NOT support Israeli actions against Iran without irrefutable proof. You have to remember that Israel has a large military industrial complex and they are prone to unwarranted aggression for many reasons...one of which is they are surrounded by unfiendly Arabs and second is remnant fears of the Holocaust. But Israel will not flourish by means of aggression. They need to channel that energy into building constructive relationships with their neighbors.

    March 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Reply
  17. Miguelroger

    Israel is going to drag the United States into WWIII! Israel has by some estimates over 200 nukes.. If Iran really tried to erase Israel from the map, Israel would obliterate them! So if you ask me Let them take each other out! The USA cant be the worlds police any longer–we cant afford it!

    March 2, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Reply
    • Heywood Jablowme

      Bluff? Vinay, Vinay, Vinay, lets forget those meddling Jews for a moment. Now those of us that do have a thought process realize, that if there were no Israel and the Palestinians lived there in the sand box they had built, with no Jews in sight, the upright walking cognitive man, unlike yourself, would see no useful purpose for the largest state sponsor of terrorism who sits on an ocean of oil, to need nuclear energy or the need to build a nuclear bomb. Vinay, let those born with a brain handle it. you rest up

      March 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Reply
  18. Laura

    "I need to remind myself that America is a sovereign country" Meridor said recently in a briefing with journalists. – nice to hear that some eyes in Washington start opening, and remind that America is a sovereign country and must act as one according with own interest. I found an intersting article online how "Israeli lobbyists embedded in the U.S. State Department"
    http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/news/israellobby/item/1443-threats-to-you-or-your-family?-tales-of-the-israel-lobby

    March 2, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Reply
  19. Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

    That was for you Howard...

    Moronic trailer trash of an incompetent right wing idiot!

    March 2, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Reply
  20. Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

    Let's face it, its very important that we don't start a third war in the Middle East simply because more Americans would be targets and pay a price globally than Israeli citizens. You attack Iran but its our citizens who would be targeted world wide! But you want go rush to war with Iran? Then go ahead but rest assure that Uncle Sam aint coming to your aid this time when the entire Arab world turns against you. And rest assure, you won't win this conflict like you did in 1948!

    March 2, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Reply
  21. Sal

    Another point I would like to make is even if Iran develops nuclear weapons, they will not use them against Israel! Despite all the threats from Iran to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, they are not stupid, religious freaks yes, but not stupid! 

    March 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Reply
  22. Amy

    There is not way Israel is going without us, no way.
    On the other hand we are not going to any war so Netanyahu should trust the foreign policy chief (Obama) if he wants to resolve the situation, the world has changed, an attack may not be the solution to this problem at all, sometimes you need to use your brain to get some results. The economy is getting out of the toilet very slowly but in foreign policy Obama has a 10!!

    March 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Reply
  23. Darrell

    The israel poeple will ignore Obama and what he has to say. The Israels will look after themselves Nuke Iran if the need be and they will not care what Obama or the USA would have to say. And just what can Obama do if Israel decides to strike? HIf he goes against Israel you can be sure that he will lose the large jewish vote in the states. Then he is done like dinner. Now i say let those two duke it out and get it over with. Nobody interfere with either side. But the US has it's nose in everybody elses business.

    March 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Reply
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      Yes, and what are you going to say when Israel gets invaded and crushed for their aggression? Would you then call on President Obama to help?

      March 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Reply
      • Darrell

        Do you really think what the us really thinks?They have been using you for years now. And what can Obama do? Who says Israel will get wiped off of the map? Iran. But obviously tou have troubles reding. Let them both duke it out . Understand that much. I really don't care who wins but get it over with.

        March 2, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
      • Ivan

        Good Riddance

        If you want to help Israel then more there.

        We will all help you pack.

        March 2, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • John

      The question is how would US foreign policy resemble if it weren't for Netenyahuh pressure , AIPAC and Israeli influence from the Congress and Senate,, and can Obama achieve an "American" foreign policy, exempt from foreign pressure into getting the US into a war that could unravel in to World War.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Reply
    • Jason

      IFFFFF And it's a big if, Israel does attack and go to war with Iran, they will get slaughtered. Tho they claim to have a good army, its' only filled with kids with guns. Look at their history of wars and fighting. The only one their winning is against the Palestinians and that's only cause sanctions, blockades and treating them like animals.

      On their own, they'd be crushed. With all the comments they've made about "profiting from 911" at the cost of our lives and Iraq which has killed thousands upon thousands of our troops. WHY are we helping them? Let them go to war and we'll stay out of it. We aren't in the position to go back to war, esp with one of the most powerful military in the world. All this media focused around Iran having nuclear weapons is propaganda written by Israeli's. Don't believe the hype. They have a purpose and that's to profit even more from a war they'd barely be involved in. WHY DO WE DO THEIR DIRTY WORK??????

      March 2, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Reply
    • M-Theory

      Obama would only lose a small portion of the American Jewish vote for turning away from Israel. I'm Jewish by blood and can tell you that I do NOT support Israeli actions against Iran without irrefutable proof. You have to remember that Israel has a large military industrial complex and they are prone to unwarranted aggression for many reasons...one of which is they are surrounded by Arabs and second is remnant fears of the Holocaust. But Israel will not flourish by means of aggression.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Reply
  24. Patrick

    Iran needs a deterrent to the 200 nuclear warheads that Israel already possesses. Either the Middle East becomes a nuclear-free zone, or the other nations have the same military rights. The US cannot continue to fight someone elses battles, and must call out human rights abuses, occupations, propaganda and irredentism whenever thet occur. Otherwise, we encourage our allies to behave with impunity.

    March 2, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Reply
    • Chuk

      I absolutely, whole-heartedly agree. With the US following this path, we're all headed for danger. The idea that its friends can have nuclear weapons to hold over its enemies is a farce. It should be all or nothing; preferably nothing.
      Here's the question that each person must ask: If you're an Iranian, how would you feel being denied this right? It's silly to think the "chosen" ones can build their stash of nuclear weapons without any fan fare but once Iran attempts the same thing we're made to belief it'd lead to the end of the world. If so, let it. This is a complete farce!

      March 2, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Reply
  25. Sal

    Let them eat PORK! 

    March 2, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Reply
    • TomGI

      Let them eat gamma rays and neutrons?

      March 2, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Reply
  26. Txjack

    Israel Bombs who they want when they want.
    And the sad part is the USA is their lapdog.

    1981: Israel bombs Baghdad nuclear reactor.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm

    March 2, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Reply
    • Heywood Jablowme

      txjack
      So America should thank Israel for taking away any nuclear capability before we fought them in 91? If they had them do you think they would have used them against Kuwait? American troops in Kuwait?

      Jack, its called thinking. Try it. It dosent hurt. Sorry to be so familiar, ill call you Mr. Off

      March 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Reply
  27. Sal

    Also remember the USS LIBERTY that was attacked by Israeli warplanes in the Mediterranean and killed 30 something American soldiers. I REMEMBER! 

    March 2, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Reply
    • Rich

      Do the words "friendly fire" mean anything to you? It was an accident. Israel had NOTHING to gain and EVERYTHING to lose. It wasn't intentional; move on with it.

      March 2, 2012 at 6:28 pm | Reply
      • oldman

        Not so friendly, when its your father killed, anyway I suggest you read and study the full history of the incident, and the statements of the survivors who were there, but of course the truth would stand for nothing to change your bigoted view of the world.

        March 11, 2012 at 1:00 am |
  28. Sal

    We should not get involved if Israel attacks Iran! I say let Israel go it alone and face the consequences of their foolish policy. Israel is not our friend because if anyone old enough to recall many of the spies for Israel have been American jews. Israel spies on us so what kind of a friend spies on it's friends? 

    March 2, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Reply
    • Ivan

      I'm with you SAL

      March 2, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Reply
  29. Martin Seattle

    Hold your ground Obama! Our Military leaders are right by saying no to attacking Iran. Listen to them. No country can not go on like this with impunity. We still have not paid a dime towards the last two decade long wars. Israel's credit rating is better than ours. Israel is not able to bail us out when we financially collapse from debt like Greece.

    March 2, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Reply
  30. Beverly Murphy

    Obuma needs to Act like a President and Leader! OUR president should never be the water boy for anyone let alone a trouble maker! ALL our troops should be brought home and Obuma needs to stay out of the mess his "friend" is pulling him into. He needs to find other Friends to hang out with. The sandbox is more like a kitty litter pan.

    March 2, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Reply
    • Howard

      bama is a lying thief, who will tell Americans whatever he thinks they want to hear, in order to get elected. And, once elected, this traitor betrays every promise he makes. How many times will gullible Americans fall for this charlatan's lies ??? If obama wins a second term, without the concern of winning another election, we will all be at the mercy of his destructive policies for FOUR more years ... enough time to TOTALLY destroy this once great country, beyond repair. Save America ... dump Obama, ASAP !

      March 2, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Reply
      • Martin Seattle

        The President of our United States is making wiser decisions than the last one. Osama bin Laden dead ( no American lives lost in doing so ) , Kadafi dead ( no Americans dead in doing so ) Minus one mistaken Iraq war ( no more Americans dead thank you ) Somali Pirates dead ( no American lives lost ) even Iranian hostages freed ( no Americans dead )
        Need I say more?

        March 2, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
      • Darw1n

        Obama/Biden 2012!!

        March 2, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
      • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

        Moronic trailer trash of an incompetent right wing idiot!

        March 2, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • blam

      Hi I have no brain and just know how to spew hate.....
      Obama invaded afghanistan because they would not hand over Osama, then 6 months later declared Osama didnt matter and started the invade Iraq campaign on borrowed $$$$ then declared MISSION ACCOMPLISHED on an aircraft carrier while Osama sat their laughing at how dumb Obama. fox news told me this now I repeat it

      March 2, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Reply
      • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

        Don't you mean Dubya invaded Afghanistan, etc., etc., etc.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
      • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

        Incompetent rightwing trailer trash!

        March 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
      • CALL YOUR BLUFF AND SHOW YOU'RE TOUGH

        Let's face it, the only countries in the world that advertize publicy a plot to attack another sovereign country is a state sponsored rouge state and each and every day Israel is showing that it is indeed a rouge state, willing to bully its neighbors. And perhaps someone should tell Netanyahu that defeating Iran in a war wouldn't be as easy as bombing refugee camps and UN compound with peace keepers!

        And by the way Netenyahu, while you're in Washington you should explain why in 1972 Israel sold nuclear technology and material for nuclear weapons to the oppressive Apartheid government of South African to plot genocide against the citizens of South Africa!

        March 2, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      Every American President since Nixon has acted as Israel's Water Boy, even Saint Ronald of Reagan! Whenever we start to do something that helps anyone in the region other than Israel, they start talking about how the United States is working with the people who want to destroy Israel to every domestic and international press agency. Whatever we do in the Middle East, if it does not directly support the expansionist, apartheid and ethnic cleansing practices of Israel, we get slammed by them.

      March 2, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Reply
    • IVAN

      Face it he is the water boy an always will be.
      Israel dictates the policy we do not.

      If we were not in bed it Israel all these years.
      For no apparent reason other than the politicians have been bought and paid for by Israel.
      Then 9/11 would not have happened.

      We have no business being here.

      I say Let them fight it out.
      Last one standing “Welcome to the neighborhood”.

      March 2, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Reply
      • Heywood Jablowme

        Ivan, your obviously a deep thinker, so let me ask, name another TRUE friend of America in the middle east. One that will stand by us through thick and thin. Take your time. I know its difficult for you

        March 2, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
      • Ivan

        @ Heywood Jablowme
        We have no friends in the Middle East.
        It is simple Israel is just using us, they always have and always will.

        March 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
      • Ivan

        We need to let them just fight it out and who ever wins. wins.

        March 2, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
      • Heywood Jablowme

        Ivan, just because the Constitution gives you the G-d given right to be as stupid as you like, dosent mean you need to exercise it over and over on this page.

        Name a middle East country, besides Israel, that has a church, that respects others religions.
        Name another country who helped America in 83 when the marine Barracks were bombed?

        Please dont let your hatred cloud what little judgement you have. And please dont tell me the dead Jewish guy hanging in your church deserves your hatred too.

        March 2, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
      • Heywood Jablowme

        Ivan, did your parents have any children who don't have extreme mental disabilities?

        March 2, 2012 at 6:27 pm |
    • Duncan

      Obama has no balls to do the right thing and support Israel in taking a hard line (military action) against Iran..Is it because Obama is Muslim??likely..anti semtic more then likely!! but most likely he just doesnt have the balls to do anything..he a puppet..nothing more ..nothing less..

      March 2, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Reply
  31. Derek Miller

    Let Israel do whatever they want. Obama just needs to make it clear that we will not support a war with Iran. Israel is a leach that needs no more American support.

    March 2, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Reply
    • Jason in Fresno

      Derek Miller should be able to do whatever he wants and say stupid things like "Israel is a leech that needs no more American support". 'Nough said. Idiot!

      March 2, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Reply
    • Howard

      CNN HEADLINE:
      Obama and Isreal differ on Iran threat.
      Obama wants to wait until Israel is blown off
      the face of the earth, before he acknowledges that Iran is a threat !!!

      March 2, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Reply
      • Txjack

        What has Israel done for the USA ??

        Nothing. I say good riddance.

        If you like Israel so much,

        Move there.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
      • Heywood Jablowme

        Txjack, or Mr. Off to those who dont know him well, please take your medications. We dont want to frighten your wife/sister (one and same person) when she gets back to the trailer.

        March 2, 2012 at 6:00 pm |
    • blam

      if OBAMA didnt invade iraq and put the US MILITARY in control of ALL the air space Israel could have bombed these nuke sites 10 years ago.... so blame obama on why we have what we have today...... capisce?

      March 2, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Reply
      • Sam

        Obama didn't invade Iraq, moron.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • Duncan

      Derek is your typical anti semetic racist that america has bred, and why people hate america..the most gutless country on this planet..

      March 2, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Reply
      • Buzzer

        Coming from a coward that has never served and hiding behind his computer throwing grenades...

        March 2, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
  32. fayemogh

    THE IRAN NUKE has been highley exaggerated like iraqWMD,obama knows this and the isrealis want to have the monopoly of nuclear capability in that region,irans nuke is only for detterent,for sure,it would be a suicide for them to point their nukes at isreal,they are sucidal.they want to actually remain in power.

    March 2, 2012 at 11:44 am | Reply
    • Howard

      If I was an Israeli, I wouldn't trust obama as far as I could throw him. I am an American, and like tens of millions of other Americans, I don't trust obama as far as I could throw him !!!

      March 2, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply
      • Jason in Fresno

        2 thumbs up for you Howard! Remember this is a CNN new site and these folks actually believe Obama not only has their best interests at heart, but also is doing a good job. This country is doomed! Not because of Obama or George W. Bush, but because of the obtuse mindset that man is his own god and he should be able to do whatever he pleases. We had 8 years of George W. and he did nothing but start a war in Iraq. Now we have a guy who is doing nothing for me and the middle-class tax payer. Hey! Let's give him or Mitt Romney 4 years of doing nothing to acutally help the working-class American people! Yeah...let's do that! Never under estimate the stupidity of the American peole.

        March 2, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
      • Kosher

        The President of our United States is making wiser decisions than the last one. Osama bin Laden dead ( no American lives lost in doing so ) , Kadafi dead ( no Americans dead in doing so ) Minus one mistaken Iraq war ( no more Americans dead thank you ) Somali Pirates dead ( no American lives lost ) even Iranian hostages freed ( no Americans dead )
        Need I say more? Obama and his Military leadership have it right about Iran too.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
      • Txjack

        @ Kosher

        You better lay off those pickles.

        Obama and his Military leadership?
        Where , when.

        He never served in any Armed Forces.
        He has no experience.
        He is just doing what he is told.

        1st Libya was a NATA effort not US.
        2nd bin Laden was a scam. Did you see a body?
        3rd which Somali Pirates? We been killing them since 2005.
        So get your facts straight..

        lay off the pickles and read the news.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
      • Norm

        That's why people like you have an identity crisis. Your probably trust N'Yahoo" more than our President.
        Wonder where your allegiance is...

        March 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
      • bobcat2u

        @ Txjack
        #1 What the hell is NATA ?
        #2 You're an idiot.

        March 2, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • Howard

      Yeah fayemogh ... why would anybody think that people who strap suicide bombs onto their children, are suicidal ???

      March 2, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Reply
      • Sam

        There has never been an Iranian suicide bomber. If there has, please point that story out.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
      • Norm

        Seeing as how you are a truly an "Israel First" guy, tell your other "countrymen", if they want to start a war, let them go ahead. But let them, as John Wayne once said "Include us out!". Israel wants us to fight their dirty wars for them. We created Israel and kept it armed with the most modern and potent weapons in history: some were given to them with our knowledge, most were stolen by the likes of "patriot" Jonathan Pollard. Without us Israel cannot exist. WE tell them what to do. They cannot dictate our foreign policy.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
      • Howard

        Hey Sam ... Iran may not be know for their suicide bombers ... but, they are sure known for supplying numerous terrorist groups (ie suicide bomers) with the weapons and explosives to carry out their dirty deeds !!!

        March 2, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
      • Howard

        Norm ...
        1. I am an American FIRST guy .. and, I proudly served in her military.
        2. I'm not a C.S. s.o.b., who abandons our allies, especially when, they are willing to put their lives on the line, to protect themselves, and US, from countries who have openly threatened America, and or supplied terrorists with weapons, or armed and supplied rogue states, who danced in the streets, on 9-11.
        3. It appears that M-U-S-L-I-M first guys, like you, have no honor.

        March 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • blam

      FYI................ Pakistan and India have nukes...... thanks for playing

      March 2, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Reply
  33. HarryK

    Osama Bin Obama will always support Israel. Too much of his campaign funds come from Jewish PACs. He'll stay in line.

    March 1, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Reply
    • blam

      U mean like the TOP billionaire Israeli spy of Mitt Romneys campaign???? u should take obamas advice and get at least 1 year of an education under your belt

      March 2, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Reply
      • Txjack

        No George Saros.

        The richest Jew in the world.
        That bought the election and put Obama in the White House

        Saros was tried and convicted in both England and France for illegal trading .
        Now he is banned from both countires.

        So Saros comes to the US and buys an election

        March 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
  34. Beth

    Why should Israel be the only Middle Eastern country with nuclear weapons? Maybe Iran would keep them in line. They refuse the Palestinians any rights, including the right to carry a gun.

    March 1, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Reply
    • Howard

      Ah ... maybe it's because Isreal, a democracy, is, and always has been our ally ... and, Israel isn't a country who funds anti-American madrassas, which teach their children to hate America ... and, Israel hasn't made public threats to use the nuke on it's neighbors, to blow them off the face of the earth !!!

      March 2, 2012 at 11:48 am | Reply
      • max

        Israel has always been the US's ally? I think you should talk to the sailors on the USS Liberty. But don't worry, the US is totally broke so the money and weapons will come to a halt. Too bad the Chinese think religion is poison.

        March 2, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
      • wpqr

        Max: Is there ever going to come a time without someone dredging up the Liberty every time an article appears about Israel? So how do survivors of Pearl Harbor feel about having Japan as an ally? Not only are the facts still in dispute, but this is an incident that occured nearly a half century ago under a different israeli government. Give it a rest.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
      • Txjack

        Israel has NEVER done anything to help the USA.

        Only themselves.

        And yet we still give them aid with borrowed money.

        Country run by corrupt policicians.

        March 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
      • Jason

        I'm sorry but you are so deluded by the truth it's not funny. Israel is simply using the US for their own purposes. They could care less about any of us. Through their actions, it's quite clear!

        March 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • Jason in Fresno

      Go back to Berkley Beth...or whatever mental hospital or short-bus you just got off of.

      March 2, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Reply
      • Beth

        Just a tip for future reference...your argument is much more persuasive when you avoid Rush Limbaugh-like name calling.

        March 4, 2012 at 8:50 am |
    • blam

      FYI,,,, PAKISTAN and INDIA have nukes.....
      it is amazing how ignorant people are.... take a minute to learn about a region before expressing an opinion...
      I mean REALLY.... how long does it take to find facts that a Pakistani nuke scientist was responsible for Iran/Syria/North Koreans nuke knowledge.....
      no wonder fox news is able to brain wash so many people... it takes literally SECONDS to find these facts. pathetic

      March 2, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Reply
      • Beth

        LOL. So now India and Pakistan are Middle Eastern countries?

        March 4, 2012 at 8:27 am |
    • Duncan

      Beth the Palestinians dont deserve any rights..they are animals..put a sock in your anti semetic racist mouth and keep it shut..or keep giving blow jobs to every dick on your corner

      March 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Reply
      • Beth

        Therin lies the problem. The Israelis treat the Palestinians like animals and the US supports this treatment. It's no wonder the Arab nations hate the US.

        March 4, 2012 at 8:29 am |
    • Heywood Jablowme

      Beth, no one has taken away your right to think, so why not exercise it?

      March 2, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Reply
      • sbstr

        And she did, now how about you do the same?

        March 2, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • Amy

      I think you have a point.
      The problem is that the power is now only in one player there, so if you have another one with the bomb things will balance.

      March 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Reply
    • Howard

      Beth ...
      The Palestinians, who you think should be armed ... are ruled by Hamas, a terrorist organization ... and, on 9-11, they danced in the streets, to celebrate the slaughter of over 3,000 innocent American men, women and children. WAKE UP !!!

      March 2, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Reply
  35. gabe

    Jeremy Bernstein of the New Yorker wrote an interesting e-single on Iran's developing nuclear program. Bernstein is a physicist, but it is more of a history of how we ended up in this "are they or aren't they developing weapons" situation. Worth reading, for those interested: http://goo.gl/tk0fx

    March 1, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Reply
    • Jason

      Not worth the read! Its written by and Israeli and will only see bias opinions

      March 1, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Reply
  36. Jason

    It amazes me how fast people forget history. In reference to the article that came out suggesting Israel could invade and win against Iran. Does nobody remember when they tried to invade Lebanon? A country that has a fraction of military power that Iran possesses. THEY GOT SLAUGHTERED!!!! How do they expect to fight Iran and think they'll have an impact.

    It's like saying Iran will turn out like Iraq. Are you kidding me? Has Iran had embargo's in place for over 20 years on military and weapons? NO. Does Iran have 50 times the size and power of Iraq's so called "military"? YES..... Don't believe the hype created by Israel. The only reason there's so much trouble in the mid east stems from Israel Occupying a region in the world they left thousands of years ago. Not many may know this but Israel was NEVER called Israel before 1948. It was called Palestine, where Palestinians called their home. Since the occupation of Isael, the whole region fell apart. They'll killing our troops in the name of Israel.

    It's sad to see how one sided some people are. Before judging someone or in this case an entire religion/region, do some research and make your own conclusions. Should you do this, you'll see how foggy your mind has become from israel propaganda. After all, the entire media is owned and run by Jew's.

    March 1, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Reply
    • HarryK

      Jason, The Jews have co-opted large evangelical churches to fund and fight for Israel. They know that if they start the war, the US will come to their rescue. Get ready for the draft. For this one even the girls will have to go.

      March 1, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Reply
      • Jason in Fresno

        Harry...'cast not your pearls before swine' Bro. Sometimes it's not even worth the effort. So sad....

        March 2, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
      • Heywood Jablowme

        So Harry, the only good "Jew" is the dead one hanging on the wall of your church?

        March 2, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
  37. brother in america

    these comments are great AMERICA. AMERICA HAS ALREADY ALLOWED ISREAL AND THE ARAB TO HIJACK AMERICAN HISTORY. MORE SO ISREAL, IT HAS CONVINCED WHITE AMERICA THAT WHITES HAD THE BIGGEST INFLUENCE IN THE SLAVE TRADE WHICH IS FALSE. JEWS AND ARABS DID THREE TO FOUR TIMES AS MUCH SLAVE TRADING AS THE WHITES. IT IS A FACT GO TO THE LIBRARY WHITE AMERICA OR THE WEB YOU ALREADY ALLOWED WHITES TO TAKE ALL THE BLAME FOR THE SLAVE TRADE. IF U KNOW ABOUT THE LAST DOOR IN SLAVERY(THE LAST DOOR THE SLAVES WALKS THROUGH HE GETS ON THE SHIP) ALL HAD THE JEWISH STAR OF DAVID ABOVE. ISREAL JUST PAID BRAZIL TO SAND THEM ALL DOWN. CHECK FOR YOURSELF IF U DONT BELIEVE ME. DONT LET THE JEWS DESTROY YOUR NAME AND COUNTRY

    March 1, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Reply
    • albus

      Any chance you are from the rural south? Drive a pickup truck and are married to a close relative?

      March 2, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Reply
      • Buzzer

        Not defending this individual above, but is there any chance you're from the urban north and signed a prenuptial with yours?

        March 2, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
      • Buzzer

        ...and do you drive a Smart Fortwo?

        March 2, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
  38. Vinay

    Just wait and see, if Israel actually attacks Iran, one of the most terrible thing that could happen will be the overthrow of the United States president. And along with it, the democratic system of governance. If gas at the pump costs 10 dollars a gallon, the common man will have no choice other than taking up arms against hos government. Even the police who are meant to keep law and order will join the common man against the government, because life will not be affordable. Europe will be many orders of magnitude higher in chaos because there are several countries involved. All chaos will originate from Russia, who holds the control of natural gas supply to Europe. Russia will hike the price by ten times. Most of the governments in Europe will be overthrown. This fact is well known across both sides of the Atlantic. Now if this chaos actually happens, what will happen to the Jews who are supposedly the original creators of this 'Iran Issue' ? I need not write anymore.

    March 1, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Reply
  39. 28mAmerican

    I see some one got the hint about "resorts" Think palms.... Dubai is like our FOB every thing that happens starts there. All you have to do to realize it is see the moderate / radical thing is a game. You need to look carefully but it is the ones you don't want to admit are working for the other side that are enabling them.

    March 1, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Reply
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    March 1, 2012 at 11:28 am | Reply
  41. val

    now we know who pulls the "PUPPET'S" strings LOL At least the Republican race has narrowed considerably, one hard working, intellegent, stead-fast, "REAL" American Doctor, ............... and well now, only three chiksa(s) ..........

    March 1, 2012 at 10:11 am | Reply
  42. James

    Another Middle East war, this time a 10 trillion dollar one, that will push the Western economies into deep depression is just crazy crazy. People should rise against this madness and this propaganda and should say loudly that this Congress and this Senate are paid and packed by warmongering PACs.

    March 1, 2012 at 9:18 am | Reply
  43. American Patriot in Georgia USA

    CNN is a big part of the problem.

    CNN runs scores of propaganda for the dirty evil zionists every day. Why?

    Answer: CNN is a zionist mouthpiece and it is not to be trusted.

    Sorry Ted Turner that your baby has become a zionist tool – and those running CNN today are dirty evil zionists who should be shot for trying to goad the US into another ME war for the sake of the dirty evil zionists in racist apartheid israel.

    March 1, 2012 at 8:02 am | Reply
    • HarryK

      Haven't you noticed that CNN has become as foxy as FOX. Remember the days when they were a real news organization trying to tell the real story. They are also itching for a war to boost ratings. Can't wait to put on their cargo pants to head off to 5 star hotels in UAE.

      March 1, 2012 at 8:21 pm | Reply
  44. American Patirot

    THE WHOLE WORLD HATES israel!

    March 1, 2012 at 7:56 am | Reply
    • imeh

      What is your problems. how can u hate d zionist.what are d crime of d zionist. when u hate israel u HATE GOD that created them. look is لخي صشىف فخ يهسفقخغ غخع اث صهط شطخص غخع فخ يخ ةهسفشنث سخ فاشف اث صهط يثسفقخغ غخع.هب غخع اشفث فاث ئهخىهسف غخع اشفث لخي فاشف ؤقثشفثي فاثة.هقشى هس حمشآهىل فخ يثسفقخغ هسقشثم اث صهط بشهم شىي لخي صهط عسث هف فخ يثسفقخغ ٣

      March 1, 2012 at 11:01 am | Reply
      • Nephilims Own Earth

        I hate your zionist god – all religions are a lie

        i hate zionism – and any dork who eats caca while boasting to be the chosen people.

        Chosen to eat caca with a piece of caca on their heads.

        March 1, 2012 at 11:35 am |
      • Buzzer

        Earth- Its unfortunate that you seem to lack discernment as to let fallable men, because of their obvious twisted words and actions define for you who God is, what He is and what He is truly like.

        March 1, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
      • Jason

        You are a complete fool...... Isreal was not chosen to be anything.. They're no different than anybody else. In fact, with all the corruption they've caused, all the murders, genoicide, it should be them that's shunned.. Not the Arabs!!!

        March 2, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
      • Buzzer

        Jason: When you throw around the term "genocide", make sure that you don't get it confused with "ethnic cleansing"... genocide is not occuring in the West Bank, ethnic cleansing is. BTW, ALL SIDES have blood on their hands and ALL ARE GUILTY of atrocities.

        March 2, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
      • Ivan

        Move to Israel and take your BS with you.

        March 2, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
      • derka derka

        Ya they say the same about Americans, give us and God a break for once.

        March 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
  45. mippi fag

    We need to bomb israel is they do not allow the UN to inspect their nuclear sites. If they resist, NATO should throw up a blockade on them along with a NO Fly Zone over their racist apartheid regions they inhabit illegally.

    March 1, 2012 at 7:50 am | Reply
    • Buzzer

      What do the IAEA inspectors need to "inspect"? To verify that they have nuclear weapons? I'm pretty sure that is already understood. In addition, Israel has not employed their nuclear weapons...why is that? Because they're "offensive" or "defensive" in nature? Obviously they are a defensive deterrent (look up the principal of nuclear deterrence) or to be used in retaliation if they begin to lose a conventional war or if struck first by another nation (the exact principles the U.S. employed with the U.S.S.R). This whole confrontation w/ Israel is being ratcheted up by Iran with the same idea when Saddam Hussein lobbed SCUD missiles into Israel in Gulf War I...to gain sympathy and divert Arab concerns about Iran attemping become the dominate power in the Persian Gulf into this idea that they "need" this type of weapon because big bad Israel is on the verge of "wiping Iran off the map"...let me clue you in, if Israel has any intention of doing this (and they can at present), WHY THE HELL HAS ISRAEL WAITED to pull their nuclear "trigger" on Iran...I'll leave it up to you to answer that question.

      In addition, Iran, and all the rest of the Middle Eastern countries don't give a CRAP about what's happening to the Palestinians...no Middle Eastern country has lifted a finger to help the Palestinians "get their act together" and actively engage Israel in a productive way to help. The Palestinians are "used" by other Middle Eastern countries to enflame their poplulation along ethnic lines calling the Palestinians their "brothers" anytime there is unrest in their own country and divert their "attention"...not much better than Israel's ethnic cleansing policies. Standing by and not giving your "brother" a pole and teaching him how to fish to survive is almost as bad as the thief taking the pole out of the brother's hands and keeping it for himself.

      March 1, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Reply
      • H man

        There is a real good reason why they have not used there nukes.

        Anybody who uses nukes Israel included would be abandoned and shunned by the world, even the states would find it difficult to support them and Europe would outright cut them loose. Not to mention they would find themselves at war with almost every Muslim country in the world and probably some non Muslim countries as well. Not to mention the amount of terrorist attacks in Israel would sky-rocket. Furthermore if they do find themselves at war with ever Muslim country they would lose (I am counting Turkey as a Muslim country and they have a military that can match Israel's single handily), thus Israel would be forced to use even more nukes and that wont work well for them because that would mean they would have to nuke there own backyard which in turn means they would have to deal with the radiation.

        So in short Israel using a nuclear weapon would be akin to Israel committing suicide.

        March 2, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
      • wpqr

        Excellent post.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
      • Buzzer

        H man: I know why Israel won't employ their nukes as a "first strike" option, hence the reason why I stated they are a "deterrent" and would only be used as a last resort if their country was on the verge of being overran by enemy conventional forces of if some country nuked them first...

        I was being in a way sarcastic at this "Mippi" to make him see that Iran's excuse for aquiring nukes because Israel has threatened them with annhilation and legitimately feared Israel would use them as a "first strike" weapon is a non-creditable position and a lie.

        Israel has nukes as deterrent against an attack from countries that have demonstrated the willingness to do so in the past...Iran is using them to dominate the Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States.

        March 2, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
  46. michaelfury

    "The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.

    'We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq,' Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events 'swung American public opinion in our favor.'"

    – Haaretz, April 16, 2008

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/as-the-crow-flies/

    March 1, 2012 at 7:35 am | Reply
  47. mipoliitc

    barak gave the details of the iranian nuke advancements in recent days , and bibi will make the pitch , obama will say not me , obama will not go through the door first , so israel has revealed their options on the table , and obama heard and listened .
    so after all these years of iranian threats the result will be israel's resolve or israel facing a possible nuke strike from the boarder to the north west or south west or north or a missiles attack from iran. so what option does israel have?
    the mossad chief said that at any given time israel has 20,000 missiles pointed at it, so how would you aproach this ?

    March 1, 2012 at 6:57 am | Reply
    • mippi fag

      Hey mippi fag, we all know only dirty evil zionists use the name "bibi" when referring to B. N. the War Criminal and Murderer who should be tried in a World Court, and once found guilty, bibi should be hanged by the neck until his worthless evil body stops dangling.

      Death to bibi and the dirty evil zionists in racist apartheid israel.

      March 1, 2012 at 7:53 am | Reply
    • derka derka

      20,000 snappers, you know, those things you throw on the ground at your feet and they make that snapping noise....keep believing everything you hear...

      March 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Reply
  48. JohnWV

    Israel has ICBM nukes and has threatened Iran's very existence. Of course Iran wants nukes. Iran needs a nuclear deterrent. Resolution lies not with further threatening or attacking Iran, but with immediate and severe UN sanctions disrupting Israel's exercise of its deranged fixations on dominance and invulnerability.

    March 1, 2012 at 5:55 am | Reply
  49. JohnWV

    Israel's campaign for an American attack on Iran is close to succeeding. Israel has similarly instigated all our other Mideast wars and benefited from all. None were in American interests, yet we did the dying and nearly wrecked our economy. How did this happen? Enormous amounts of precisely distributed Jewish money have corrupted our entire electoral process. Among the perpetrators are AIPAC, the Jewish Conference of Presidents, and other monied traitorous Israel Firsters. Netanyahu now controls much of American government and plans to spill more American blood. An American war with Iran may serve Israel's grandiose aspirations, but guarantees further economic ruin and major terrorism right here at home.

    March 1, 2012 at 5:55 am | Reply
    • michaelfury

      http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/movers-and-shakers/

      March 1, 2012 at 7:28 am | Reply
  50. Vinay

    Privately Obama will put cold water on his counterpart's head. Publicly both will sternly warn Iran 'all options are on the table' / 'no options are off the table'. But there is a growing awareness among the people of the world that this entire 'Iran attack issue' is THE WORLD'S BIGGEST BLUFF IN CONTEMPORARY HISTORY. It is well known US is trying its best to stop Israel from taking its own decision of attacking Iran. But just in case Israel jumps the gun and actually attacks Iran, fearing things could suddenly go out of control (even allies are likely to desert any attack) in the Middle East, the US is likely to take a sudden pre-emptive action to quickly disable Israel and prevent any major fallout, even as on the ground they are part and parcel today, strategizing with Israel. Meanwhile China and Russia are very closely monitoring the situation and will also be quick to take steps to protect Iran if really this bluff turns out to be true. There will be a stalemate on Iran and will be a very tense situation, with major world powers against each other. Tanker traffic across Hormuz will reduce to a trickle as insurance companies will stop cover on ME ships. Oil price will spike, could be 200 to 300$. Meanwhile, Russia will jack up its natural gas export price to Europe by three times, arm twisting the west to back off. There will be some sort of treaty signed by world powers whereby Iran will be protected and Israel will be forced not to issue any further threats. Surely the Jews lobby in the US will be disappointed.

    March 1, 2012 at 5:32 am | Reply

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