By Jamie Crawford, CNN
Throughout the course of the past year Iran has been, if anything, consistent in its delivery of provocative acts and bellicose rhetoric.
An alleged plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States is uncovered. Threats to close the strategic Strait of Hormuz are followed by refusals to allow U.N. nuclear inspectors access to certain sites in the country.
Then there is the issue of alleged assassination attempts of Israeli diplomats at the hands of Iranian operatives in India, Georgia, Thailand and Azerbaijan. And let's also not forget the threats of pre-emptive military action against any country perceived as an imminent threat to the Iranian regime.
What is one to make of what of it all?
"When it comes to Iran, you always have to differentiate between what is bluster and what is real," Afshin Molavi, an Iran analyst with the New America Foundation, told CNN. The threats to close and mine the Strait of Hormuz, through which a high percentage of the world's oil supply passes through, were all bluster, Molavi said.
Iran has a lot to lose by closing the Strait. With 80% of their hard currency earnings, and most of their revenues coming from the oil trade, Iran would face severe economic repercussions through such an act.
Iranian external foreign policy is driven by the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The remark about closing the Strait was made by an Iranian vice president, of which Iran has many, to a local audience that was then picked up by news organizations around the world following a report by an Iranian news agency.
Molavi said the remark was likely made to pander to the vice president's immediate audience in Iran, "not realizing this is going to go viral and global very fast."
The assassination attempts of Israeli diplomats however adds a wrinkle to an otherwise long running story.
"Iran and Israel have been involved in a low-grade intelligence war for roughly two decades," Molavi said. "That has now bled into taking human lives."
The deaths of five Iranian nuclear scientists and the destruction last year of an Iranian missile facility are widely believed to have been the work of Israeli intelligence. The recent attacks directed at Israeli diplomats, the wife of an Israeli diplomat in India was seriously injured in one of them, are believed to be a response to the assassinations of Iranian scientists. Both governments have denied their involvement, but have been quick to point their finger at each other.
In the past, international attacks attributed to Iran have mostly been carried out by operatives of its proxies like Hezbollah. With Iranian nationals having been arrested at the scene of some of these recent attacks, a new dimension in the low grade intelligence war may be beginning.
"This is new if it proves to be true," that Iranian nationals are conducting attacks overseas Molavi said. "We are entering new territory," he said.
When it comes to Iran's nuclear program, the picture is a bit more nuanced for Iran watchers - and U.S. officials for that matter.
In a recent interview with CNN, Joint Chiefs Chairman Martin Dempsey said he believed the Iranian regime was a "rational actor" when it comes to the nuclear program. Dempsey said Iran would likely weigh the ultimate costs and benefits of building a nuclear weapon before doing so. James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, recently told a Senate panel that a decision had not yet been made by the regime in Tehran.
Michael Singh, who focused on Iran while serving on the National Security Council during the Bush administration, says Tehran will always hold firm to some parts of the program even if they never weaponize. "They want us to abandon any thoughts about getting them to stop their [uranium] enrichment program and accept as a baseline what they have already accomplished," Singh told CNN.
Iran has allowed two separate delegations of inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency into the country in recent weeks to visit some nuclear sites. Both visits have ended in disappointment when Iranian officials did not allow inspectors to visit sites they felt had a military dimension to them.
But while the full effect of international sanctions aimed at Iran's oil sector and central bank are not expected to hit until June, Iran is beginning to feel some pain, and that pain may be yielding some cracks in the regime's stance.
Iran's access to international banking channels is getting squeezed, and its currency, the rial, has plummeted nearly 50% in value in recent weeks. Industrial investment is declining and factories are shutting down. Molavi, with the New America Foundation says this may help explain the recent letter by Iran's nuclear negotiator to Catherine Ashton, the EU foreign policy, chief seeking a return to talks about its nuclear program.
U.S. officials have cautiously welcomed the letter. "Any conversation anywhere with Iran has to begin with the disposition of their nuclear program, I mean that is the number one issue," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Tuesday. "Iran's response to her letter appears to acknowledge and accept that."
The United States is currently working with the so called P5+1 group to fashion a coordinated response to the letter from Iran.
And with parliamentary elections in Iran set for next week, the regime's bellicosity may be directed inward as much as it is towards the United States and Israel.
"The Iranian government is much more concerned with what's going on in Iran internally, it's very preoccupied with the election," Alireza Nader with RAND told CNN.
The leadership in Iran has been divided since President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad dismissed the country's intelligence minister last year. The minister was reinstated by Khamenei, and the two camps have had icy relations since.
"Khamenei wants to show the Iranian population that he is in command of the country, that he knows how to deal with the United States, and that he is not going to succumb to pressure," Nader said.
Many Iranians do not view the regime as being credible Nader said, "so right now is really the worst time for the regime to face external pressure as well, and it has to show that it is strong in the face of these pressures."
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To the world Citizens, Since whole world is working on latest technology and more nuclear run submariens, power plants , medical advancement are being done . Y cant Iran get the same.The real threat to the world s US and dits allys. Its very clear that US indierectly attacks every Oil rich nation.They want to keep whole world under their control. they want conquer all nation. Its impossible for a nation to work as a slave. Check the gulf nations saudi, UAE, Bhahrain, oman who supports US. so they pump more oils to US and inturn they get US goods. Check these countries are they reallly powerful to control their own nation. do they have own scientist to work in aerospace, inventing latest technology. Never they are not allowed to do so. Inturn they buy US's advanced Fighter jets who radar system is supplied to Isreal and US vessels. they supply advanced missiles but the controls are with US forces. Since these countries have US supports, stilll now KING rule s allowed. here to protesters are thers who wants democracy.wat rubbish. No country want to be slave to others.Y US want to halt the India's nuclear powerplants, Y US provides advanced jets to pakistan. US wants to keep its military contrcts to be its top agends. how many of them knows the secret research done by US . they are not know to their own people. By the war of Iraq , wat they found . how many deadly weapons were found.is there peace now. No country is safe enough , becoz all are under US satellite control. they are keenly watched by drones, satelites...... Y US dont wish to launch advanced satellite of INDIA which can survey , take photos clearly . still lot to say ...im here to explain something to t world which goes blindly behind the superpowers. Im sorry if I hurted anyone . I welcome ur comments to accept my stand.
"whole world is working on latest technology and more nuclear run submariens, power plants , medical advancement are being done . Y cant Iran get the same."
For what it's worth, all nuclear technology is not equal. Uranium enrichment for medical and power reactors require ~5% enriched uranium. Even research reactors require less than the 20% enriched uranium Iran already says it's making. In addition, Russia has already offered to help Iran with nuclear power plants with pre-packaged fuel – something Iran has refused as it wants the capability to enrich uranium itself.
Is it bad for Iran to enrich its own Uranium that is the big question..... why can America allow other countries to grow? why? why?..... Nothing last forever we all know and change is constant
@ Rash:
"Is it bad for Iran to enrich its own Uranium that is the big question..... why can America allow other countries to grow? why? why?..... Nothing last forever we all know and change is constant"
If Iran had stated that they would stay with 5% enriched uranium and allow international inspectors in place to verify this, there would be no argument. Iran has not done this. Japan is an example of a country that has peacefully used nuclear power (and openly rejected nuclear weapons), but is a much more transparent country than Iran is.
Rube.
Iran is keeping tensions high to drive up the cost of oil. This is as destructive to western economies as any war might be.
Keeping pressure on the US/Israel relationship and balkanizing Israel is a part of the overall strategy.
Much of Iran's antics are for internal consumption. The sitting government is unpopular and as long as there is a theat from the Great Satan (the US) or the Little Satan (Israel), they can rally the population.
The US/EU sanction is bound to fail. Any one who thinks that it would cause the Iranians to yield is blind to the facts that economic sanction rarely (if ever) works. Ten plus years of crippling sanction on Iraq and Saddam continued to rule his country with an iron fist. The same thing will happen in Iran.
The only reason why this joke of a sanction is being implemented is because it is a ploy by the Obama administration to push back the inevitable attack on Iran by the Israelis (to after the November election). The plan might work for a month or two, but the Israelis are clearly at the end of their rope. One commentator on this board (who claimed he/she is from Iran) made an excellent point – why impose sanction when you believe that the Iranians have no intention of building nuclear weapon? It's all a big political game.
The CNN article also fails to address the most important issue of all. Even if Iran is rational and has no intention of building 'the bomb', Israel simply is not. Their leaders are right wing, ultra nationalist nut jobs. Worst, the senior officers in the IDF – many of whom are veterans of the prior Arab wars – believe they can knock out the Iranian nuclear program. Even if the operation will only delay the program for 2-3 years, or the loss of thousands of Israeli citizens in the (likely) counter attack by the Hezbollah and Hamas, and even if it means the Israelis may have to resort to using 'unconventional weapons' to do the job, they can and will do it with or without US approval/help. Look at what they did at Entebbe and Osiris. Those operations were just as unthinkable as an operation to attack Iran is today.
Having being accused of developing nuclear weapons, any sensible leadership would try to disprove, not talk about its rights, and demonstrate missiles etc. Iran obviously does not want to star a war it would lose. So the only explanation is that either the media is doing this hype, or the Iranian leadership is hand in glove with the elite. It is very easy to corrupt leaders of the third world.
A smart leadership would play for time while developing weapons that will give them the power they crave, which
is what they are doing. If they can get "the bomb" before any military action against them they can use it to intimidate others (like N Korea) and prevent said action.
I wonder if they ever use their beards to tickle their wife's hoo hoo. Just wondering.
I always watch CNN news but now I don’t like because these new always bias or one sided news.
The choice is simple for Western Governments. Allow Iran to make Plutonium and tiny little "bomblets" that terrorists can carry around in suitcases and then detonate at Soccer and football games, killing thousands and millions in Western cities over a few months with the fallout, or nuke the "Holy City" of Qum into a large radioactive crater. Most Iranians prefer European Soccer and American Football to the Mullahs in Qum, as do most Westerners.
So the Mullah's in Iran will be defiant until the cloud of radioactive fallout from the bombing of Quom and Esphahan bomb making factories sprinkles all over the Eastern part of Iran, killing millions.
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Hey CNN, why did cut off 28-year-old Cpl. Jesse Thorsen, interviewed by CNN’s Dana Bash. He was simply expressing his view that declaring a war with IRAN is a bad idea and U.S.A must not be driven to this war by Israeli pressure. You guys do dangerous propaganda, shame on you.
CNN, you are bad for common people and freedom of speech, I had kicked out CNN out of my living room 8 months ago, I watch Russia Today man.
Finally getting the truth somewhere .. ? In what hospital are you ?
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as an Iranian and former reformist I realy do not know why US and EU do not want see true of Iranian people!the people in Iran I mean most of them now think US just tell lie about diffence between people and government by recent sanction couse people suffer.so people realy think the government say true about US that US is against of people of Iran and grow in thecnology of Iran.by these new sanstion and bank sanction and then what US government told that they put sanction against Iran to refuse make bomb(read again refuse!) and to not Iran going for bomb now people in Iran ask that US is just tell lie.why it put sanction when it know that Iran still do not want make bomb!it is so funny for people here.they now say lier to US government(I tell again most of the people not just people you find in rich places and they tell you they are with US!you can find what people say by see in other cities not just Tehran).
in this election millions go for it.I mean near 65 or 70 percent go to election not becouse that they think the governemt is realy good or no problem is.they go to show US and EU that people now know these countries just tell lie.they put sanctions agains people.when every thing go in high price becouse of sanction and US tell it is becouse to pressure people to pressure government the people say so this is!the US want to put sanctions against us not government so we are with our govenment.
I never understand what realy US and EU think about Iran!but let tell them from here.people of Iran are not crazy and never forget what they did with Mosadegh.they know now that US and EU repeat history again against Iran.nor government nor freedom.just becouse of what Israel want them!I am so sorry for people of US and EU that their govenments just do what a small country with many nuck bombs say.
blaming the wrong people as usual, dont blame iran that threatens annihilation of israel, dont blame iran for funding, training and arming insurgents and terrorists to kill americans in iraq, afghanistan and lebanon, dont blame iran for supporting hezbollah and hamas so they attack israel with rockets, oh no dont blame iran, blame israel, or the US or the West or anyone else you can think of but dont blame iran. instead sing the muslim mantra: "woe is me, woe is me, everyone but us is responsible for our misery".
Try getting all upset about the fact that your country wants to start a shift that could eventually turn the whole middle east into a nuclear wasteland. The Sunni-Shia divide is very long and deep, you should vote out your government, but once again, you go to the polls, elect hardline anti- progress candidates and then blame it on the US and EU that you vote for morons that will only repress you and start wars that get your relatives killed. You want people to change their view of Iranian people? Start voting the bad ones out. Your country has done no good threatening Israel and the US. You can only talk your way into threats so long before trouble finds you
you spelled your name wrong, it should be spelled ashcan, as in garbage repository
At least you can try. Problem is, the vast majority of people can only see what is visible from where they stand. Even if that means they travelled half way around the world to stand on the backs of other people, and then wonder why those people dislike them.
Mossadeq? Most of them have not the slightest clue who he was, and why he is so ;pivotally important in explaining Iran to the West. Good try, but a chimpanzee, like a four year old, can't pass the intelligence test where they have to understand that what they saw was not seen by the person who was not in the room.
To clarify the Maxi Chocolate Cognitive test in the last paragraph, the analogy applies to the West, much more than Iran. After all, it is the West that goes around the world, knocks people down, stands on their backs, and then wonders why on earth people dislke them.
Although, Iranians have to realize that most Westerners do not have the slightest clue regarding Iran, since they have not experienced what Iranians have – in a sense they were not in the room. So, when trying to explain things to Westerners you have to take this into account. (Also, it is a three year old who fails the maxi chocolate test, along with chimpanzees and most Westerners).
Israel seems to have its days numbered. Now, five years from now, or longer, anyone of the multiple countries that hate them will obtain a nuke, and that will be the end. I have been reading the Iranian blogs, the radicals in the area think it is their obligation to do such. The US political system claims they will come to the aid of Israel, but did anyone ever ask the 300 million people here if they would send their sons and daughters to fight for Israel? Many of our problems in the US are tied to this region and our support of Israel. Israel looks like a peace loving country, but they are fighting hard core savages. Either they educate their enemies somehow to love life more than death, or they incinerate them now before it is to late.
israel has no intention of ever asking anyone to fight for them. they appreciate the support of the US but have never asked for "boots on the ground" . saying otherwise is simply arab propaganda hoping that anyone not familiar with the history of conflicts between israel and its neighbors will believe the garbage these muslim apologists spew.
Yeah, we have Israel's back, but have never fought a war for them, which is more than i can say for multiple Arab countries. Israel has always stood strong on its own, from its very founding to today. Israel is the one other country i wouldn't want to threaten, they get results without the bureaucracy
Do you want to start talking about facts. How about this. During World War II United Kingdom know what was going on in the Concentration camps? Did they saved Jewish lives as they could? No they forced most of the people to Israel where they have kicked out natives out of their homes. Those people had to leave their houses by force so most of the Jewish people could live there. Now you blame "Muslims" for all of the problems. Any person in the right mined would not be for war. Its easy to sit behind your screen and say things that will bring more hate. If you are such a h"human being" I would encurage you to speak about peace. Its enough to have all of the hypocrats who blame it on others. Anyone who saw and lived through the "war" and know what actually war is will not be for any kind of war. There is no reason that things cant be resolved peacefuly. Only ignorants, pethetic imbeciles will talk about haterd and spread it around.
you are all a bunch of dumbasses. none of you know what the fuck you are talking about. shut up. this article is a complete waste of time to read and an even bigger waste of intellect. the author is obviously a cocksucker for the establishment and would love to see the rest of us suck government cock also. frankly, CNN is for sheeple like yourselves.
Sounds like your the expert (probably at sukin cox)
Thank God you self censored yourself on the spelling of cock ned flanders.
Who's your owner now that you no longer live in Neverland Ranch with Michael, Bobo?
Let's face it, the US Middle East foreign policy is so one sided and flawed and is so deep woven into the fabric of Israel that if it were to try to change course now and force Israel to give up a significant piece of the occupied land, the current US administration or any US administration for that matter would end up taking all sorts of upheaval and attacks from the right, middle and left. So what can the US do? I believe there's a solution but it doesn't involve the US or England because we know they're already 100% pro Israel no matter how many Palestinian and Lebanese refugees Israel murders. So what's the solution?
I believe if the world's other true superpower in Russia was to start to take a more proactive and integral part in foreign policy initiatives and a stance against human rights violations and atrocities abroad, they could help to end a whole lot of human sufferings and senseless oppression worldwide. Perhaps America and England feel a sort of obligation to defend and protect Israel but Russia doesn't! And who in the world would tell Russia NO? Let's face it, if Russia was to tell Israel tomorrow that they have to split up the disputed land, I'd bet my house that Israel would bow without gesturing a word! And who is going to mess with Russia? Hell, even the US won't mess with Russia! And although its not usually in Russia's nature to meddle in foreign affairs, I believe that sometime some countries have a moral obligation to intervene where necessary to help to bring about world peace simply because they have the means and the capacity to do so. I think its a moral obligation! Its ironic that its a principle that the US and Great Britain applied to hault Adolph Hitler's Aggression but half a century later, their roles seem to be reverse as they are now in support of a Jewish state involved in the very same extermination of a people in Palestine. Well, I guess history does repeat itself if you ignore it!
even the russians know that the crap you just published is crap. israel defends itself against bombers and rocket attacks and they are "murdering" innocent palestinians? time to pack up your hookah and leave the islamic center [ in dearborn?] and go home to your veil
If Israel wants to fight their own fight then i say let them do it. Our president should not be pressured into actions that he could deem unnecesary. Hopefully, he will consider how another war will affect the American people. I understand how people can see Iran having nuclear weapons as a problem but let's resolve this through means that benefit America the most, which is peace. This is coming from someone who deems themselves a very conservative American. I just don't want to see any more of our boys die.
Israeli control of the US is alarming and scary. We need to fight them as we did the British. We need to get our country back from foreigners.
Its very hard for any US administration to abandon Israel simply because their election or re-election chances would be nearly impossible! For example, during his 1932 inaugural address, Franklin Delano Roosevelt infamous line in addressing the Great Depression was that "we have nothing to fear but fear itself." But during his first administration, when there was an out cry from officials from across the United States and around the world to intervene and pass an anti-lynching bill, making it a federal crime to lynch African-Americans during an open season of historic lynchings across the South, FDR failed to address the issue. Then when he eventuallyresponded, he asked what would be his chances of re-election if he alienated Southern Democrats who helped get him elected, if he was to pass an anti-lynching bill. So in retrospect, "we have nothing to fear but fear itself" was just words! And I must note that it was FDR's wife Eleanor Roosevelt who spoke out publicly against these outrageous lynchings and influenced passage of an anti- lynching bill! Yea, that was some damn brave First Lady!
But perhaps if First Lady Michelle Obama could take a page out of Eleanor Roosevelt book, maybe she could tell President Obama to remind Israel that total peace in the Middle East would occur ONLY with the recognization of a Palestinian STATE!
a palestinian state is a good idea. how about recognizing israels right to exist as a state first and a cessation of daily rocket attacks and then a palestinian state is very likely. too bad 60% of the palestinians don't want a 2 state solution and want instead the destruction of Israel. maybe your pleas should go to the palestinians first. takes two to tango
There would have been a Palestinian state already if Arafat hadn't fukt it up.
but if Israel launches a 1st strike – a sneak attack might seem cowardly sorta like pearl harbor. It is better that we launch a sneak attack and spare her not only the shame but the lives of Israeli soldiers
what you really mean is that you would like the radical muslim world thru CAIR to control the US but you are too busy killing each other and whining that its all israels fault while trying to blow up planes in detroit and trying to bomb the US capitol to control even your own bodily functions
@rick
First of all, the extremists groups in the Middle East who say outrageous thins about Israel's existence do not represent or speak for the Palestinian people. They may claim to represent but they don't. Furthermore, no deal between Israel and the Palestinians would ever occur unless Israel's right to exist is recognized. Secondly, the terrorists who carry out terrorist attacks in the Middle East and in the West do not speak for the Palestinian people either! Whenever Israeli American made fighter jets and Apachie helicopters are dropping bombs on refugee villages in Palestine and Lebanon, do you see armed gunmen running for cover? No, what you often see is civilian men, women and children running for cover or being bombed and murderd in the process. Lets's face it, if those were your love ones, I bet you too would call for the destruction of your enemy!
First things first. Get rid of the muslims.
ooooooooo israel controls the US..........ooooooooooo jews...........oooooooooo muslims good, underwear bomber good, shoe bomber good, 9/11 good, capitol bomber and capitol shooter good, jews bad.............oooooooooooo jews on my mind....................time to go home from islamic center, hookah dry
America is the root of all terror. America has invaded sixty countries since world war 2. In 1953, America overthrow Iran's democratic government and installed a brutal dictator. During Iran-Iraq war, America supported Saddam, which killed over million Iranian people. In 2003, America invaded Iraq and killed 1,000,000+ Iraqi people and displaced 4,000,000+ Iraqi people.
Now America is a failed state with huge debt. Its debt will be 24 trillion dollar by 2015.
best that you stay at home then, you can cry and whine all day around your hookah and leave us americans to our own troubles. sounds like your visa was denied again. too bad, so sad
Nevertheless, Jannani is right.
Plus, mostly no one cares about the millions of deaths in Iraq, because it's the Middle East. But say if the opposite happened and Iraqis killed millions of Americans on U.S. soil, it'd be an epidemic of terror and fear. But what's the difference between the lives of Iraqis and Americans? None. They are deaths of innocent civilians that never wanted for this to happen.
And I also want to add that if America should fail, the rest of the world will start falling apart before it recovers. People depend on America to escape from their own countries, because their own countries are full of terror. But they also realize that America is becoming more and more dangerous. No place is safe from corruption on Earth. Yes, the debt will increase. The Congress and president always propose bills for reducing the debt, but it keeps increasing. We are bankrupt, and we will continue to print more money despite the fact that the value of the dollar is going down. It just causes more debt.
Put down the Crack-pipe, get back on you camel, and ride back to you cave.
Iran Iran Iran....remember when Iraq still had Saddam Hussein in power and he used his military machine to bloody the noses of Iran's republican guard. Iran's citizens are educated, they know they would suffer in a spat with western powers.
But if there's a war, it won't be between Iran and the US but between Israel and Iran! Remember when we had all theose sophisticated Huwie Apachie like choppers in Vietnam and all those sophisticated supersonic jets and bombers? Yea, the Vietcong still kicked our as*ses! Perhaps Israel would learn the hard way!
Check your facts with hard data. The Vietcong was annihilated during Tet in '68. During the whole of the Vietnam War, the US Military never lost a single battle. Kronkite, the media, and the flower children provided the impetus for Nixon to pull out the troops by '73, and Congress stopped funding the South Vietnamese in '75 which gave the North the green-light to send all of its army into the South. Back your assumptions up with facts next time.
yes but iran is talking trash and we must bomb them so that Israel doesn't have to worry anymore. Besides Israel could lose a lot of her irreplaceable soldiers whereas american lives are not worth as much – right?
israel hasn't asked for american soldiers, ever, and the US has never offered any. hard to argue persuasively when you start with lies and end with crap but the muslim apologists posting on this cite have no shame
Let Iran be frank! Of the two, A Sunni and a Jew, who is and has been the Shiite's greatest enemy? Of the two, who has killed most of the Shiites?
Lets put the Iranian public rhetoric aside, why do we hear of Iranian demand of custodianship of the 3 holiest Mosques by Shiites as the ultimate goal of the Shiites? Isn't the anti-Israel noise just a gimmick to fool the world Iranian's real intentions?
@rick
Bush should have gone after Iran instead? And who should go after Bush for murdering thousands of our and NATO soldiers and western journalist and aid workers in Iraq and Afghanistan and murdering a million Iraqi civilians? Perhaps SEAL TEAN 6?
When someone or a group is suspected of carrying out a terrorist attack in the United States, the US doesn't respond or retaliate by wiping out an entire community of innocent men, women and children with Apachie helicopters like Israel has done since 1948. So you ask what is Iran thinking? Well, when was the last time Iran dropped a bomb on a western refugee village anywhre in the world? Let's face it, I'm no fan of the Iranian government but worst yet, I'm no fan of the Israeli government which is the most brutal government and evil government in the world since the Apartheid government and since the brutal governments of Uganda, Sudan and Nazi Germany.
You sir, have no regard whatsoever for actual historical facts , when it comes to spewing your mindless psycho-babble. If you are a camel-riding monkey, please ignore this and go on your merry way, however, if you are an actual civilized person, you need to go back and read a few books, listen to different sources and expand your misinformed narrow view of the world and Israel. Good luck, you have a lot of catching up to do !!!
I might be a monkey on a camel but at least I can read, so can you please state your point?
"most brutal and evil government in the world"?
Some of the residents of Homs, Syria might have a dissenting opinion right now. You want to discuss "brutal" and "evil", Bashar Al-Assad (Syria) and Omar Al-Bashir (Sudan) are miles ahead of anything Israel or USA could dream up.
Israel is the most brutal and evil government in the world? Right, far more brutal than Syria, Iran, or North Korea.
Since you have problems writing a coherent sentence, I don't think anyone is takes what you say seriously.
Excuse my keypunch error. I meant "no one takes what you say seriously".
nonsense
you are not only a fan of iran, you are obviously an iranian spokesman as the material you puke up is exactly that, puke. you question the way in which a country retaliates to rocket attacks by claiming the launchers hiding behind their wives and children are the true victims. maybe they shouldn't be launching rockets and then using their children as shields. talk about cowardly acts!
The middle east is one of the first regions in the world to recieve civilization. It is beleived that the east was first (somewhere in China). Yet the rest the world and even the youngest (U.S.) surpassed these regions in modernizing. You can argue many reasons how this came about, heres my attempt. First we know that civilizations first foot holds came from religion and religion supplied the first rules/laws that allowed man to come together and benifit. As religion modernized and evolved, so too did civilization and individual freedoms. This did not come without loss of lives and oppression.
Religion used as a tool to rule, resists modernization, because modernization challenges conventional wisdom. It is no coincidence that one of the youngest nations that modernized the fastest, was also the first to try to seperate religion from state (the U.S.). They were also isolated from the rest the world and able to grow unmolested. In other parts of the world nations did things similar and created diverse forms of government. Yet these other forms of goverment allowed very little room to evolve and modernize, because they were used to keep a few elite in power.
Once again its no coincidence that this young goverment called Democracy was the fastest at modernizing. See Democracy is by the people for the people and its rulers have term limits preventing corruption. It evolves as the majority evolves, ever changing to meet the peoples needs. Because of its individual freedoms it allowed, people all over the world imigrated to this nation and other nations took up forms of thier own democracies as they watched that nation grow. Yet those nations still ruled my religion and other forms of goverment stagnated or dissolved.
Now we arrive at modern times and Democracy is under threat. Not by religion or other goverments, but globalization. Globalization has allowed super economies and thus uber wealthy individuals and corporations. Democracies and other goverments depend on these indiviuals and corporations to supply the wealth to govern and defend. The unber rich use back door deals, bribes, Wall Street, and buying of officials to control or influence goverment. It is time for another seperation if democracy is going to survive.
Whats happening in Iran has nothing to do with race and everything to do with greed and power verse religion. We have seen the benifit of seperating religion from goverment imagine if we can remove greed what we might be capable of. Sorry for the long post.
Sancations only hurt the citizens of Iran. The leaders will not suffer and do not care about their people. This regime needs to be wiped out. Bush should have gone after Iran instead of Iraq.
Iran will do what they plan to do. The USA and Israel can put shout as loud as tehy want because Iran has understood a long time ago that the USA cannot be trusted and teh USA is in no way a role model, quite teh opposit. So, why should Iran trust the USA? not one good reason and tehy are right to do what they want. It was the USA who used the atom bomb on Japan and now we have the balls to tell teh rest of teh world that they cannot do teh same. Go Iran and do what you think is right.
Something tells me you already believe the world is going to turn into a giant fireball and are just excited to hurry along its demise.
Right! Go Iran! Keep funding the insurgents who have killed hundreds of American soldiers in Iraq and Aghanistan. Keep finding Hezbollah which was responsible for the bombing of our marine barracks and embassy in Lebanon. Keep being the chief sponsor of worldwide terrorism. Real smart.
Iran has funded insurgents who have killed hundreds of our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan? And who do you think have killed thousands of Iraqi and Afghan civilians when we invaded two sovereign countries that weren't even at war with anyone?
Blahblah: That's all very true. But you're taking our actions out of context. Did you ever read a history of World War II? Over three million German and Japanese civilians were killed, many in bombing raids by America and Britain. So did that mean our war against Hitler should not have been fought? And we have not intentionally killed Afghan and Iraqi civilians.
War, especially modern warfare, is hell.
I just don't understand why Israel is being so belligerent. Any country would welcome a pretty mushroom cloud over its capital city.
I just googled the Arab league and discovered that it is made up of twenty two member states but Iran and Pakistan are not a part of the Arab league! However, whether a member or not, I believe that if the Muslim/Islamic/Arab world want to keep Western influence, wars and oppression out of their part of the world, they must and I repeat MUST come together and sign some kind of bi-lateral agreement and find common ground to denounce and defent against western influence and aggression.
During the reign of the oppressive Apartheid government in South Africa, the entire African continent remained idle and withdrawn from the conflict while their brothers and sisters were isolated, oppressed amd murdered by the oppressive South African government. You travel north and discover that this same mishap has been taking place in the Arab/Muslim world for half a century where the entire Gulf nations remain idle while one sided Western influence and policies get the better part of their people.
When GWB devised plans to invade Iraq, countries like Saudi Arabia and others were up front and willing to step forward and allow the US use of their military bases and air space to invade their neighbor Iraq. And although Turkey entertained the notion, Turkey was one of the few Arab countries in the region that eventually decided not to get involved. And while the Palestinian people have suffered for half a century under Israeli occupation, wealthy and influencial Arab countries like Kuwait, UAE and Saudi Arabia have all turned the other cheek and have refused to use their wealth and influence as leverage to campaign for a homeland for their neighbors. Instead these countries have spent trillions of dollars building world class resorts out in the ocean to entertain the rich and famous of the Western world. So what is really wrong with you people?
Today Israel continues to beat the war drums as it threatens a pre-emptive attack on Iran! And of course, not to my surprise the rest of the Arab/Muslim world continues to remain silent while the potential for a third war in the region seems to be strenghtening by the day. So what is really wrong with you people in the Arab/Muslim world? Each and every year millions of you make the holy pilgrimage to Mecca to show solidarity as you pay tribute to honorable Mohammed, yet, when its all over you go about your business killing each other and not trying to help build and unite your world and peoples. Again, I ask what is really wrong with you people?
And my final question to you is what are the chances of Israel actually following through on its threat to attack Iran if the entire Arab/Muslim/Islamic world were to sign an allegiance tomorrow that an attack on one is an attack on all? I just hope you people take heed because a whole lot of American lives would be sparred and money saved in the process if you people were to start taking care of your own problems and lstart oving, respecting, trusting and caring for each other.
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Why cant the dirtbag with the beard speak instead of propping up that umpa lumpa to speak for him?
Just remember that many posters on this forum are probably foreign intelligence agents.
What is Iran thinking? Hmmmm.....cheerleaders, coeds, nasty Western satans, blondes, brunettes.....
Actually a very stupid question from CNN. Who cares what they think and how would we know? It looks like CNN has nothing better to write about. Why not wrtite about something worthwhile, something intelligent? I guess that is too difficult.
Um, gee. I don't know. Maybe because we have troops in that part of the world? Maybe because there are other nations than the US and their actions affect us?
There is nothing that Iran can do to prevent war with Israel and US. Neo-cons and Israeli lobby (AIPAC) are actively lobbying US to start another war in the region. Whatever concessions Iran do, will be considered as a weakness.
Just look back a few years during the build up for Iraq war. Iraq even allowed UN Inspectors in the presidential palaces. they even destroyed their short range missiles in a desperate attempt to prevent war. US and allies went to war under the pretext of fighting WMDs. Over 5000 US soldiers killed, over a million Iraqis killed and US economy is in trillions of dollars of debt.
Hey why would Israel care? they know that US congress is in their pocket. Neo-cons, AIPAC with their media clout can sell any war to US public. They get US government to fight Israel's wars meanwhile ordinary US citizens are suffering.
I agree. We have invaded that part of the world, disrupted their society and yet "we're in the right." If I were Iranian, I'd be scared to death of the USA! The only reason we're messing with Iran is to increase the price of oil and keep the Bush wars going. Congress needs to be run by the people for the people. At present, Congress is run by the 1% benefitting those like Romney.
the cancerous regime of the terrorist state of Iran needs to be surgically removed. Its evil is unquantifiable.
It's always the same litany over and over again with you people. A few facts: The United States does not want a war with Iran. The last thngI srael wants is a war with Iran. The United States does not fight Israel's wars. There is something Iran can do verily easily to prevent a war: give the inspectors free, unfettered access to its nuclear sites.
Too bad the Iranians are pretty stubborn about that.
And everything is based on assumptions about Iran. Who knows what they're hiding? They could be hiding something that is actually nothing at all, or could be hiding something big. They hate Americans. They don't want the Americans to spy on their stuff. We meddle too much with the Middle East, no wonder why they hate us.
I totally agree with you, as long as people like Senator Liberman, Eric Cantor and others are lobbing for Israel, there will not be a peace. Liberman and Cantor are actively orchestrating a war and push US to another none sense war. We have a right radical candidates like Rick Santorum and Gingrich sponsored by radical elements of GOP. As matter of fact Gingrich is running because of his radical ideas against Iran and sponsored by one of Israel billionaire lobbies in US.
israel fights its own wars, always did and always will, you and your fellow muslim whiners want to blame israel for all your muslim on muslim, arab on arab and muslim on christian killing but the mantra of victimhood is eroded by your actions: actions speak louder than words, no matter the stridency of the propaganda
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hey listen we will continue our gas pipe line project with Iran
Yes Iran has tried to assassinate Israelis and Saudis, but so did we and Israelis have don so to Iran
just less then 2 months a go Israelis and American operatives bombed a Iranian nuclear scientists car killing him and some woman and children who ware around his car at the moment.
is Iranian government a terrorist government? YES. but so are we Americans and as well as our Alie Israelis.
we bomb the Iranian cars and kill their woman and children in process and call it a tactical assassination
and when they do the same thing we call it a terrorism.
but in fact we are both doing the same thing, it is just that for a political reason of saying we are the good guys and they are not we call our act of terrorism with a different name we we look good and they look bad.
i think it is time for the world to pass true the politicians cover and see true their lies and see the truth.
Are you for real Paul?..... The Iranians were caught red handed in their assination attempts, not just on the Israeli's, but a Saudi on American soil. There has been no evidence presented by Iran that shows we, or anyone else, is responsible for those nuclear scientists who were killed. I have read theories by some, who believe Iran did it themselves, either because these scientists might have refused to perform some of the requests by the regime, or just totally so they could make it look like the victim of western agression. Until Iran can show that there is some connection, I will stay neutral on this issue. I can't pass judgement on "here se". It looks like you've already been the judge, jury and excutioner of something, without any real evidence brought before you. You must not be of American descent, because your ideas are not shared by the whole of our society.
Whatever you say, Paul..err..Mohamed.
Israel assassinating five Iranian scientists is the stupidest move ever. No way I believe Israel did that because there is no motive. You can't stop a nuclear program by killing a few scientists, and the ones killed weren't even the head scientists. I don't know who killed them, but there is no evidence or motive for the west to assassinate a few random scientists.
“Iran: what is it thingking?”
It’s thinking how craven those american and israeli infidels are to have been doing nothing but talk, talk and talk to attack iran, but nothing materializes. Ckckckck….
We should just be on the defensive mode. Let them ( Iran) make the first attack.
Islam has always played its part as a party, which always correctly interprets what “tit for tat” “retribution” and “quid pro quo” mean and always will be, dude. unlike those two infidels, which always correctly interpret what “invasion” “violence” “wars” and aggression” mean.
Defensive mode, infidel? hahaha…and where does that come from, infidel? from that faint-hearted JP? Hahahaha…
You have got to be one of those fanatics that we all worry about. One of those kind who says, "it's my bat and my ball, and if you don't play the game by my rules, I'll go home". Because, I know many Muslims who practice their faith here, in America. They are very kind and humble people. They have disagreements with our Christin faith, as we do with theirs, but we communicate and we respect each others religious beliefs. It's people like you who propagate terrorism in the name of Allah. We have these same kind of fanatics in America too, there called "southern babtists" or bible thumpers. If in power, these bible thumpers would have all in the US, worship God in their belief. If we didn't, they'd jail us, just like you guys, except instead of jail for a disagreement agains't Allah, you'd have them stoned or some other barbarian type punishment. And remember, though we don't send Iran any money, we send billions of our money to countries of the Islamic state. Unlike Iran, who only supports terrorism, like Hezbollah (or however you spell it).
your funny and an idiot.... The earth can't sustain 8 billion people so something will have to break – and most likely it will involve a huge war. The US, Russia, China, NATO, etc. all know this and are putting their armies in place so that when the Earth has to adjust our numbers it can happen on someone else's soil... The advanced countries are working togehter so that the adjustment occurs in the third world... Which includes Iran...
@dominator, your a fear monger. So if we don't believe in your bleak, apocalyptic vision of the future, we are idiots? So much for trying to fix things, lets just focus on the worst-case scenario and make it happen.
im glad your not the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. let them attack first? no, always take the ball in sudden death pvertime
I wouldnt be suprised if Israel bombs the nuclear sites in the next 1-2 weeks. Israel has cut of tv-radio station in Palestine (where it can listen to Israeli airport traffic) and Beni coming to DC next week.
Israel knows too well that any unilateral attack upon Iran will be the beginning of its demise. What you are hearing in the media is nothing other than Israeli Bravado. I dare Israel make an overt attack on the Iranian people. We taught the world the meaning of civilization and with time we will decide when to cut the throats of these mullahs, however every Iranian that has any semblance of pride in his history and culture must defend the integrity of his nation from within and without. The most expedient way to do this is with a Nuclear Bomb. Mutually Acquired Destruction is Iran's only way to keep foreign forces out of its domestic politics. The Shah tried to do this before he was forced out by British and Israeli intelligence, however this time around nothing is going to stop Iran on its onward march to a Nuclear Bomb.
Who do you honestly think brought these Islamic lunatics to power? No other than British intelligence! Who do you think aided in the overthrow of Iran's democratically elected president in 1953? British intelligence! Who do you think carved up the Middle East in its current form? British Intelligence! Who do you think benefits from all this turmoil in the Middle East. Britain!!!!!!!! Who do you think was instrumental in the creation of Israel? British Intelligence. Don't be fooled by the liberal British media, behind it a Machiavellian machine that operates with unrivaled discipline.
Too many Persians are being assassinated by the Mossad and these cowardly Mullahs have done nothing to reciprocate in kind. Assassination of our scientists is a blatant declaration of war and all the Islamic lunatics can do is watch our nation get humiliated by these Israelis. It is about time Iran's leadership be handed over to a true Persian that will teach these Isaelis a lesson.
Michael,
Unfortunately, the US actively participated in the 1953 overthrow of the democratically elected President in Iran and it has been a sore point for Iranians since then just like the 1979 hostage crisis is to us. It is time to put these events aside on both sides and move forward. We are not the same people that were here in 1953 and I believe many educated Iranians now believe the hostage taking was a mistake as well There is no real enmity between the peoples of either nation nor is either nation a nation of backward people. Religious extremism is the enemy of freedom. People must be have freedom FROM religion is the same thing as freedom OF religion. That is why freedom MUST come before anyone's individual religious beliefs.
what do you expect? creepy christian and jewish infidels are always behind every major violence and war in the entire solar system and nobody and I mean nobody can prove me wrong.
Israel owns America. Israel says to America – Sit, Beg, Fetch, Roll Over, Attack.
your envy is striking . too bad you are too busy killing each other to have cultivated friendships like that which exists between the US and Israel, US and the UK etc.
It really saddens me to see the faith and future of my land, is being decided by bunch of war mongers who have shown to the world through two world wars, what they are capable of. I might not have the best command of English to express completely my deepest concerns about the future of the world . But it is obvious to me that the whole thing is not just about dictatorship and religion. It is about a race dominating another. It is now western countries against Islam.
They white volkls, who are trying to control and prepare the public opinion for killing of more people , do not realize that you are playing a very dangerous game.
You might be able to bomb any country from thousands of miles and then justify it with words and sophisticated logic that not many people really understand, but you do not realize that when you turn on the war machine, you no longer can stop it.
You are trying to distort the people\'s opinion about what is right and what is wrong, but through our teachings we already know that. We all know, what is happening in Palestine is wrong and is jenacide, and we are almost the only country in the world that express it so that everybody can hear it.
Our internal problems are also our own concerns and you should not try to speculate on that. Our recent history shows that our political power has always been controlled by emerging world powers but after 1978 we became independent and tried to rule and govern ourselves with our own abilities. We might have sucked at it, but it is our own but almost from the beginning was resisted by world powers. From the start we were sanctioned by the US and its allies. We were forced to defend our land against a westerner proxy named \"Iraq\" and at the same time our assets were frozen by the US to stop us from buying weapons to defend ourselves. The white race signed of on thousands of life just because we no longer wanted to be a colony.
So you have killed thousands of Iranians, without feeling a pinch. You even made a lot of money on that. Please now tell me how to trust you anymore to let you in into our most secret military installations.
Actually in the end, our opinion do not count in this world unless have the same opinion as the politicians and money people. So to say in the financial market \" being in the direction of major trend\". But I can promise you, As a person who cried for two weeks for his dead dog, if you heart me, I will heart you. If you heart my children or my family , I will heart your entire city. If you heart my country I will heart your country in anyway I can.
You can threaten us as much as you can. Plan as much you can. Talk war as much as you want, but do not cross the red line for something that you know anything about.
You might not be great at English but you're definitely great at putting things in perspective. I enjoyed reading every bit of it.
I wish Americans were smart enough to see how we are being controlled by the elite powers that be. All they want is more money and more power. Only 1 presidential candidate is a man of peace. He is Ron Paul. Our population is too stupid to understand how we are being manipulated by the war mongers. Ron Paul is persona non grata because he stands against the powers that be.
Iran has threatend another country for destruction, enriching uranium to 20% purity and able with new and inreased centrifuges to go beyond 90% purity,has ICBMs with sized warheads that maybe allocated with Chinese style atomic warheads with guidance system providing by China as well, production of plutonium for warheads, 250 feet within a granite mountain. No inspections, frivilous and bombastic comments by the gov't.I wouldnt trust Irans government on the matter of nuclear weapons.
There is no way in Hell that anyone can prevent Iran's onward march to a Nuclear Bomb, ICBMs and its rightful place in the community of nations. My only wish was that this would take place under the auspicies of Persian Nationalism not Islamic lunatics.
Right on the dot Ali >>>>O
It seems to me the real EVIL at work here is the teachings of the radical islamist religion. Given freedom to see past this religious hatred perhaps some of the people in Iran could be saved.
There are those in our 'informed' media who would like to believe Iran's 'belicose rhetoric' is simply 'bluster'. They will forget their wise counsel if/when Iran executes their claimed plans, e.g., the destruction of Israel. It might be similar to the New York Times backing off their enthusiastic support for Castro in the 1960's.
aretiree the only people who will be removed from the face of the map, or whatever term that is being made up this week by Zionist is the Iranian people themselfs.Because Israeli 's have no limit to the amount of citizens they will kill. By the way you should stop saying that Iran has a plan to distroy Israel – it was never said – that is what the propaganda machine lies about. All you have to do to find out the truth is google it. But you dont want the truth do you? You wanna kill yourself some Iranians right?
Khameni's goals: 1. Stay in power. 2. Spread shia islam 3. Hurt Israel
The authors of this piece have no clue of what their talking about. The fact that they neglect to mention Iran's supporters such as China and Russia shows that the author believe anything beyond Israeli and US interest is nothing but a mirage. The sanctions do not affect the leadership in Iran they affect the people in the streets. I can go on and on picking holes in the propaganda garbage but it would give the couch potatoes something to do when I would encourage them to read other sources such as the Asian Times, Moscow News, the Real News Network anything at all that is not beholding to an agenda.
Obama's gurus have now said that we should let diplomacy and sanctions have time to change Iran's nuclear plans. They have not as yet, I believe, told Israel just how sanctions and diplomacy to not cancel each other out.
the war will happen no matter what if the US would not come out of the recession by the end of 2012.
Israel will only attack, if it has the US assurance of backing its ass with fuel, weapon and money.
war will never happen, if US comes out of recession before the end of 2012.
or US does not assure Israel with money, weapon and fuel.
all of the above matter aside, iran already has the bomb in its belly!
I've seen President Ahmadinejad on the Charlie Rose ( PBS ) show a number of times . He comes across as intelligent , forward thinking and peaceful . When he speaks at the U.N. or in other venues he appears to be a completely different person . Why ? What is this all about ? Find a way to solve this . No war .
Dave, I have seen Ahmadinejad's interviews on Charlie Rose and other venues. Yes, he always smiles and tries to appear pleasant. He also consistently comes across as arrogant and manipulative, refusing to directly answer questions and lying through his teeth. I would not trust him with a box of crayons, much less a nuclear bomb. Like another manipulative liar (Hitler), Ahmadinejad's definition of"peace" is "I get what I want".
Iran is run by ruthless, neo-fascist dictators !! I actually do feel for the innocent people of Iran that want to see change for the better !! But so long as their supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad remain in power, all you are going to continue seeing is massive bloodshed. The Iranian dictatorship today kills more of their own people than the former Shah, Mohammad Rezā Shāh Pahlavi, did in his almost 37.5-year reign. And they claim us Israeli's kill so many of their sweet, innocent Palestinians?? Well, if the Gaza-controlled Hamas TERRORISTS would learn to recognize Israel and stop shooting so many rockets into my nation, maybe then we wouldn't have to go after these cowardly terrorists that like to hide in their childrens' schools and under their womens' dresses.
IDF Soldier,
Perhaps if you read something beyond American and Israeli propoganda you would have a clue. Unfortunately, you come accross as a racist foul. First, Israel would have no rockets fired at it by anyone if they STOPPED with colonization of their neighbours and two did not demand that the world recognized a pure JEWISH only state. You concerns are rubish and your problems deserved.
@ Kevinexcess – The JEWISH people have every right to this land. The JEWISH people have been persecuted since the beginning of time. If anyone comes out as a rascist, you most definitely come out on top !! I have NO PROBLEM with the innocent Palestinians that cross our border each and every day to work with us in Israel. But apparently, it sounds almost as though you side with the Hamas, and quite possibly Hezbollah TERRORIST Organizations !! Apparently you do not remember 9/11 too well, or do you?? I suppose you take a liking for al Qaeda??
Perhaps you should get a brain before you try to voice your opinion. You sound like a 1st grader. Do you have a brain? I highly doubt it. Your a loser!!
My comment was towards the loser Kevinexcess! He really is a loser.
Really? it's now about 911? I appears that those who object to my comments support military occupation, the purity of religion in society only Jews, and the colonization of Palistinian lands. That makes me the racist foul???? to demonize those people who are suffering from the twisted lies and propaganda wars is the crime. What is the worst is that Israel has the opportunity to be the best nation in the world, but the choose to listen to the voices of their victims. STOP THE OCCUPATION STOP WITH THE JEWISH ONLY SOCIETY AND STOP THE COLONIZATION OF PALISTINIAN LAND...
You are a Humonide version of mentally retarded reptilia who hallucinate extremely while intoxicated. You are not alone of your kind, there are millions like you in this world also known as israelis. Your behaviour is parasitical in nature, and you feed on falsehood. yes you are chosen one by the god, but to be distanced with. Your brain cannot perform beyond raping and looting ideas. Just accept what you are beside hallucinating in the fairyland.
Would it be possible for you to make sense ?
Let's put the hyperbole aside and put some real meat into these blogs. There are good people in all nations, regardless of their religious beliefs. What I don't like is politicians that send their citizens to war while they themselves are ensconced at home. This you could say is the Republican party of today baring Dr. Ron Paul, and I emphasize today. George W. Bush was nothing other than a disgrace to this great nation contrary to his father George W. Herbert Bush, who was probably the best president this nation had since J.F. Kennedy.
I am an Iranian America that recently went to Iran after an absence of apporximately 30 years. My encounters, iterviews and extrapolations led me to believe the current regime in Iran is practically despised by the vast majority of Iranians, that includes the entire demographic spectrum of society. I also noticed that the vast majority of Iranians look upon Islam as nothing other than a form of piety, however it plays a secondary role to their Persian heritage and in many cases conflicts with their nationalistic fervor. What was intriguing to me was how this regime was able to rule over a vibrant educated youth that had little affinity for the current regime. Nevertheless, the West should be leery of attacking Iran without plans to remove the Mullahs. All an attack will do is extend the reign of the Mullahs and unite the people behind the regime, not because they support the regime but rather to pretect their nation. Persians as a whole have far more respect for Israelis than they do for their neighboring Arab states. Proof of which is indelibly manifested in their 3000+ years of history. Were it not for the Persian, Cyrus the Great, most historians would agree that the Jewish race would have been eradicated by the Babylonians around 2550 BC. Jews in Iran have lived their for mellinia and in most circumstances have been treated like the majority of the population. Any afficianado of Persian history will have little difficulty proving that the vast majority of wars with Persia, Iran today, have been imposed upon its people. It should also be noted in the 1100 years that Persia ruled as a superpower, under the Achemenian, Parthian and Sassanian Dynasties rarely did Persia instigate war without being provoked. It was only after Persian Greek colonies and the provincial capital Sardis was burned that Persia attacked Greece and burned Athen in retaliation. In most instances the Persian Shahanshah's (King of Kings) ruled their subjects with respect and tried their best to avoid conflict. In fact the Persians only went to war as a last resort, when diplomacy was exhausted.
In the West we claim that Western civilization originated in Greece, only because the vast majority of what remains of ancient Persian history came from Greece but a careful examination of history will contradict this. The idea of One God, Universal Human Rights and Emancipation of women originated in Persia, more than 2500 years ago. Were it not for the 500 year war of attrition between Rome and Persia, the Arab's would have had little chance of invading Persia in 632 AD. In fact I will be bold enough to say had Persia survived the nomadic Arab invasion civilization as we know it today would have been far better off.
Islam in Iran today is nothing other than a political expedient to control the uneducated masses, who are easily marshalled to support the regime with bribes and favors, otherwise they would have very few friends. The Green movement of 2009 was really a medley of people that opposed the regime, it was not a unified movement in any way, shape or form. If it was the regime would have been toppled within hours of the uprising by the millions of people that came to oppose the regime. Nevertheless, Iran has survived three mellenia and defeated its enemies from within and without, and I am certain that the spirit of our ancestors will eventually eradicate this anachronistic regime and eventually manifest the true nature of what it is to be a Persian.
no one tells the us how to deal with terrorists. and while it is new to us, we have been trying to tell you how for decades. maybe its time we shut up and listen a bit
I can see that there are MANY here who do not remember ALL of the hostiges that IRAN KIDNAPPED in 1979, most were from the United States. Well, I do. I think that The United States of America and Israel should be the only ones in the world that should have nukes, do you know why? Because we had the sense and the ingenuity to utilize Nuclear Power to keep from invading Japan for their cowardess act of sneak attack and pulling us into World War II. Yea, WE had the Patent and created the original. Oh yea, we also proved that we could use it and control ourselves, not like IRAN.; The only reason we protest about their country with nukes is because WE KNOW what this Puppet Regime is capable of, kidnapping being the least of worries. Sorry if you do not like my words and truth known it will probably never even get published in this forum, this rag is good for that, I think they can't accept the truth either sometimes. No matter, I said what I felt.
iran isnt iraq afghanistan or ..... we are iranianwe do wat we want in peacefull way not like israeeil kiliing insent ppkl in palestine.US is controled by zionist and wat they want it happen like AIPAC lobby . im 19 years iranian and im talking TO u we never give up coz we are doing right thing, WE love american ppl but ur gove ...........
You're an Iranian?. Could you explain Iran's complicity in the bombing of the marine barracks and embassy in Lebanon which killed over 300 Americans, its complicity in the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia which killed another 19 Americans, its funding of insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan who have killed hundreds of American soldiers and its sponsorship of world wide terrorism?
And if you're so concerned about the Palestinians, why doesn't iran send a representative over to Israel and discuss the problem with them?
@ iranian – Uh, excuse me?? Innocent Palestinian people?? Is that what you are making reference too?? Okay, answer me this riddle – Are they so innocent when they shoot 70+ rockets daily into Southern Israel and kill INNOCENT ISRAELI WOMEN AND CHILDREN?? Are they innocent when they teach their women and children to strap themselves with explosives and blow themselves up for Allah?? THAT'S ALL PREPOSTEROUS !! Israel would have absolutely NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER with the Palestinians if they would simply learn to recognize and accept the state of Israel and sit down for peaceful negotiations !! But as we all know, this will never happen, unfortunately !!
Islam made made a big mistake in making Jews their enemy. Just take a look at all those who made enemies of them, the Roman,Greek,Persian,Babylonian,Egyptian Empires, the Nazis, among others , well they were all powerful and numerous, now they are all gone. They thought that just because Jews were few in number they would be easy pickings. I guess people do not like studying history these days.
ost Iranians are peaceful, hard-working, cultured and educated people. Their president Ahmadinejad may be a big bonehead but he does not necessarily reflect his people. It is kind of like how George W. Bush really was not a reflection of the average American or McCain with his "Bomb bomb, bomb Iran " This 'bluster' is for internal consumption.
Some of the comments in here are as foolish as they are childish! Addressing the point of our soldiers all of you need to get this straight right now! Our current Military is nearly 100% volunteer. With the exception of a very few Vietnam Veterans still serving, the soldiers going overseas now are volunteers. They were not forced into their decision to serve our country. So some real respect needs to be thrown in the direction of their parents and the soldiers themselves. Every solder who signs up knows what may be in their future with regard to their deployment assignments/orders. In the Military this is the life and RESPONSIBILITY you accept! Some of you folks don't seem to realize this or choose to ignore it, (I think the latter is more likely). Now as to the article content. Do I want to send our soldiers on another policing action? Heck no! Does Iran need to quit being obstructive with the inspectors? Yes indeed they do, or suffer the consequenses for their actions. Besides I think they ultimately realize that if they decide to shoot first, the US and its allies are going to shoot back! Personally, I believe it does not need to come to a shooting war. Its a simple request of compliance. The UN is not asking for anything more than compliance with the Nuclear Treaties. Iran is just being defiant because they want to hide something. That is the only reason!
good post.
The whole world hates israel.
idiot
"The UN is not asking for anything more than compliance with the Nuclear Treaties" - Fat good did it do for Iraq and Libya who dismantled their nuclear facilities and chemical weapons. Their example is the BEST REASON for all countries which the US considers ENEMIES to acquire, NUKES, CHEMICAL and BIOLOGICAL weapons AND the means to DELIVER THEM, so that the US is deterred from attacking them.
I agree. How would you feel if you're an Iranian? I think they see the West as a bunch of hypocrits who just want nuclear weapons on the hands of their friends and no one else. How is that fair?
When the West decides to be fair by asking ALL to disarm or for those who don't already have it to acquire it for balance of power, then I will listen to their gabage. Until then they can throw all the temper tantrums they want and I don't care! Bombs don't know who your friends are: either make them all disarm or shut up already!
Just like Iraq? Point is, your American Military says an attack should not be done. Iran is bluster.
Soldiers volunteer? Define volunteer. I haven't done any research, but from what I know now I'd bet that most of soldiers are relatively less successful in school and work than their counterparts. Everyone I know who is a solider was a poor student, social awkward, and had no job prospects. With army ads offering to solve all those problems, gullible unanalytical kids are bound to join. Gone are the days where people fought for our beliefs. Most soldiers are puppets. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Of course, there are great soldiers. My statement is in regard to the majority, or at least the majority that I've grown up with.
Ward, you are completely offbase and out of touch with what and who our military folks are about. You are very much wrong with respect to their awareness of events, aptitude, and how they socialize. You are also completely wrong about volunteering. It is an all volunteer force, and all of them know full well what they are getting into when they swear the oath. Additionally, contrary to what you have said about them, most of them (upper 80% to lower 90%) are the epitome of patriotic and they love their country without question.
How do I know all of these things? Simple. Unlike you (you have made it quite obvious), I served in the Army for 21 years and picked up my rifle and went to war twice (the stuff that pinkos like you won't do), so I know what I am talking about. You do not. Unless you have served this nation in uniform honorably, don't try to state what you swear to be fact about our troops and the all volunteer force. It only makes you really sound as dumb as you probably look.
American soldiers disn't sign-up to defend the Hebrew South-Africa. ( or, if you prefer, the Jewish Tibet )
It is such a comfort & delight to see the antisemitism spreading around the world. These greedy jews need to be controlled!
time to put away the hookah and leave the islamic center, your job at the convenience store wont wait forever.
that was a good one
rickie is a caca eater – plus all zionists are dirty. They don't bath.
disgusting people need to be nuked off the planet.
Brad is not Muslim, he thought this was a KKK blog site.
Most Iranians are peaceful, hard-working, cultured and educated people. Their president Ahmadinejad may be a big bonehead but he does not necessarily reflect his people. It is kind of like how George W. Bush really was not a reflection of the average American or McCain with his "Bomb bomb, bomb Iran " Bluster for internal consumption.
iran will suffer the same fate as iraq / saddam
its time the world stood together against the number one terrorist state
the whole world hates israel.
Your user name suggests that you have an affinity for the rapists of the daughters of men. You must not be one of the Chosen, huh?
War with Iran is not a matter of "if", but rather when. A defacto state of war already exists. Israel has already informed the the U.S. that it will not give the U.S. any advanced notice to their initail strike. Iran is deploying their Navy in the Med and building their nukes deep underground – clearly they have come to terms with the risks. Further, there was a failed revolution in Iran and the Iranian leaders need to divert the peoples attention to the treats from outside the country rather than those from within Iran. The Iranian government figures they need a "little" war... but they will risk a big one. If one looks at a map of the Middle East, one might say that Islam is the absolute link among all the countries on the verge of war, exception being Israel obviously. From Lybia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan all are ready to go to war for Allah.
First, there is not, and won't be anything like a unite front from Islamist states. The Saudis and other Arabs know where the real threat lies. Second, does anybody imagine that Iran can attack, if they ever gain the technology, Israel without destroying Jordan, Lebanon and Syria? Not likely. And what would be left of Iran in the aftermath? Can the Arab spring become a Persian spring- that's what Iran's leadership is deathly afraid of and is using this nationalistic policy to isulate themselves- for minute.
Actually I really think that this is a great article. I was absolutely wrong about that. I also want to exhibit remorse and undertstanding for the americans who are so obviously important to the region's health.
My..my..who do we have here, no? my impostors and wannabes. I AM a super superstar alright here, yes? look, my impostors and wannabes have been following me like lost dobermans.
You perverts want my signature as well, impostor and wannabe infidel? did that faint-hearted JP ask you to post this demented post, infidel? what a joke you are, infidel. hahahahahahaa….
a provocative article written by an infidel to defame Iran for they're just to afraid to confront it.
sad but true, no? ckcckkkck
Come on, dude! Stop using stupid labels like 'infidels' when you are talking about global politics. it makes you look like some 7th century desert camel ball licker who thinks only terms of martyrdom and Jihad. I hope Iran backs down soon or else the region is going to turn to war zone yet again.
Do you happen to know what it means, infidel? makes you kindda goofy when you’re saying things which you don’t know what they mean for the whole world to know, ain’t that right infidel? ckckckck…
oooooooooo afraid ................oooooooooooooo
An infidel (literally "one without faith") is one who has no religious beliefs, or who doubts or rejects the central tenets of a particular religion.
You have the right to believe anyone is an infidel. But to the majority of religious and non religious people, it's a blank statement. The only ones you offend by calling them an infidel, are those who don't understand the definition.
Your ignorance to the definition of a word, that you would cherish, is why you are so much a fanatic, ready to spill blood in the name of Allah, when he preaches non violent actions in our world. Fanatics, all of those terrorists supporter, who invoke the name of Allah solely for their purpose, not for their love of his worship.
a provocative article written by an infidel to defame Iran.
Iran is doing a pretty good job of defaming itself
And a stupid infidel like you say Iran is defaming itself? hahaha..how’s that possible, infidel? ckckckck…
Eye 4 1 no thattt Iran is the gratest cuntry inn the wurld. Iff anee of U want two tri und disprove mee then goe alead. Ameerikan sucks bigtime.!!! Sucks sucks sucks. If eye ever meat any eye will keel them.
Mamoud, are you retarded or drunk?
Alec,
A liberal is supposed to be an open minded individual, one with as few biases as possible, while a conservative is one with limited scope and fixed ideas. Owing to this I find it hard to see how one can be a true conservative without having a trace of myopic vision.
Todays Conservatives in the West have a lot in common with Irans conservatives, the Mullahs. Both are religious fanatics that wish to curtail womens rights and have little concern for the public at large.
You're an idiot...nobody in the U.S. wants to curtail womens rights. I mean us conservatives can't even tell if Rachel Maddow is a dude or a woman.
why do festering jewbaggers ask such questions?
And why are you a neo-Nazi closet queen?
Israel and its people shouldn't have been swept away from de EU by this Adolf H. !!
They shouldn't have chosen the land they are occupying now as a country for them. Really!! That desperate for Solomon's stuff !!
Israel should have chosen some other pieces of land to make home. Oh no they should not stay close to any place with people living in. Maybe an island or something. America should have given them Hawaii or any of its deserted island. PEOPLE GO READ MORE AND SEE HOW ISRAEL GOT FORMED(the authority). EHM!!
Doesn't mean that I am with IRAN. NO!
WE DON'T SPEAK ANYMORE OF WAR!!
If you desperate for it, I give you grant to go fight the HEATHEN.
Europe's Jews had Countless offers for homes around the World (Evian Conference). However the German Zionist Federation DEMANDED that ALL Jews go to Palestine or stay put
“The Nazi-Zionist Connection”
http://www.thefinalsolutiontoadolphhitler.com/
“THE ZIONISTS BROUGHT US TO THE HOLOCAUST. IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE TO REDEEM JEWS FROM THE NAZIS WITH MONEY, AND SAVE THE MANY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JEWS IN HUNGARY.....
THE ZIONIST LEADERS WHO NOW SIT IN GOVERNMENT PREVENTED IT
Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Ehrenreich (circa 1954)
Germany's Zionists were also behind the Tormenting of Germany's Jews to force them to to help Invade Palestine and conspired with the Nazis to Invade and Occupy Palestine.
"Israel" is, then, essentially a Successful & Surviving Nazi Colony which accounts for its "One Race", Ultra-Nationalist, Expansionist & Genocidal Nature.
“Nazi Support of Zionism”
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm
EXCERPT “Zionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo.
Hitler himself personally supported Zionism.
During the 1930's, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized "Kibbutz" training camps[9] over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of "Israel".
The Transfer Agreement (which promoted the emigration of German Jews to Palestine) implemented in 1933 and abandoned at the beginning of WWII is an important example of the cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
Through this agreement, Hitler's Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930's to support Jewish development in Palestine and further the Zionist goals”CONTINUED.
Israel's Zionists, today Systematically Exterminate and Expel Native Non Jews in Palestine under Plan Dalet.
Palestinians, like ANYONE, are simply fighting for their Lives in resisting the World's Oldest and most Ruthless, Genocidal, Occupation while existing in a Concentration Camp called Gaza.
Fighting for Surival is NOT "Terrorism".
Equally Sophisticated Weaponry would eleminate the very few Israeli, Civilian casualties, however Strict enforcement of ALL UN Resolutions (#s 242 & 338) would preclude both.
As long as Zionist Israel remains THE most egregious, Criminal, UN Violator, it has only itself to blame for Justified Resisence.
Are you sure this diatribe wasn't taken from a Saturday Night Live sketch? Or are you just high on meth?
You can see who the Jews are here, by their ignorant cliche' ridden 'repartee'. It is true, but terribly inconvenient to Zionists everywhere that in the 30s the Nazis and the Jewish Agency in Palestine set up an emigration agreement called 'the Agricultural Transfer act'. In Hebrew, it was called the HaAvara. Look it up. 65,000 young German Jews were trained in Jewish camps in Germany for life on the Kibbutzes and their bank accounts were converted into agricultural credits by which the Jewish Agency purchased German tractors, fertiler, seeds, etc. The emigre, upon landing in Haifa, could go to the bank, present his Agricultural credit and be paid in real money effectively transferring his bank account from Germany. Yitzhak Shamir once said, "Without the HaAvara, Israel could never have been founded'.
Levi Eshkol, a future prime minister of Israel was the Jewish Agency's liaison to the Nazis in Berlin.
This stuff make my head hurt.
liberals in this country are so annoying. not the liberal government officials. but the liberals that post their anti israel remarks constantly on this blog is annoying and frustrating.
Keep on sucking neocon cock, you war-loving, chickenhawk cocksucker.
Why? Would that turn you on enough so that you could be satisfied to go elsewhere to troll?
Sir, the CNN message board is for constructive messages, not an outlet for your homosexual fantasies.
I understand being civil is not something liberals understand, but at least make an attempt to try.
me tinks you want him to give you a reach-around.
Liberals?!
sylvia let me guess you were a drop out in college. 50%... actually u probably dropped out of high school.. sylvia is not good with percentages everyone give her a break
random2012 let me guess. You're out of work, white, christian and never had kids. The only thing you can connect with is that you're not an arab. So you waste what little education your state provided you and spread racist misinformed superior race crap. Liberals one day may save your life when your old and grey and on life support – I know for a fact that your republican ways would never do something like that. What I beleive you would do is shoot an arab in order to ensure that Israel remaians a Jewish Only nation.
It is thinking why not keep this up so America can continue to tell Israel not to bomb us and as we waste time lying to the infidel Americans, it gives us time to nuke Israel. Comrade Obama is prob calling them daily asking them what they want him to do next to help them. He already handed to Eqypt and Libya to radicals with Syria on the horizon, why not help Iran too?
worried american if it wasnt for the jews you wouldnt have your religion. so shut up.
Wow....I sure the FLICK am thankful now!
steve X- no one likes you. i definately dont like you or your comments.. your an idiot
"I don't like your comments".........what a whining little fag.
Boo-fucking-hoo, princess. People like you are the scum of the earth.
Nuke 'em all! Let Allah sort them out!
50% of our tax payers money goes to support that cr*p zionist country so called **ISRAEL**.
wow 50%! wow! oooooooo jews...........oooooooooo arabs good..........oooooooo jews bad...ooooooooooo 50% wow!
50%? Can I ask where you came up with that figure?
50%? Where did you get that stat from? Muslims?
so what is the issue with that... i love israel.. ur saying you dont??
What kind of a name is Sylvia Lee anyway? Draw a lot of funny looks where Im from I bet. 50% is a lot of money, you sure you got your numbers straight. Thoose darn Jews(aka my accountant and lawyer, and me) are at it again. Hope they get you you anti-semetic piece of poop.
Wow Sylvia you take trolling trailer park trash to a new level!
they should change their name to "Isfantasy".
I don't understand why American Christians (Which is majority of Americans) kiss Jews ássés when they hate Christians, killed Jesus Christ, deny him and treat Christians terrible in Israel ?! Wake up!
At least Muslims believe in Jesus, while Jews don't (Except Messianic). Iran still has millions of Christians!!
Because Jews controls the media and most of the government....... they brainwash poor Americans
oooooooo jews treat christians bad............... muslims kill christians in nigeria...........oooooooo jesus was jewish.........oooooooooooo arabs good......oooooooo jews bad................. jews on my mind.........oooooooo .iran good, jews bad...........ooooooooooo scary jews.............
No, it is all a bunch of cheesy lies started by the Jews and it just has gone on and on and FLICKING on driving people crazy.
What? You are an idiot! Any other "friends" in that part of the world? Any Muslim "friends'?
Whaaaaaaaat.?.......I thought it was the ancient Wops who offed Jesus.
No one can credibly dispute that radical Islam is a religion of violence and restriction of freedoms mandated by the Koran and enforced under Sharia law. Now wake up to the reality of the Iranian Islamic fundamentalists agenda to have the world under Sharia law. Stop being so politically correct America! Iran wants nuclear bombs because it does not have the power or army to even conquer Israel without a nuclear bomb. Their quest to conquer Western civilization starts with Israel because it is a Jewish state and not Muslim. Their objective is not about Israel any more than Poland was the end goal of Hitler. Nuclear war for them is no problem as they love martyrdom. They believe martyrdom is instrumental in bringing about the return of the savior of Islam, al Mahdi that will herald the establishment of Islam throughout the world. Their objective to make the world under Islam is no different than Hitler’s dream to create the 1,000 year Reich and dominate the world. People who believe in martyrdom will not succumb to any type of sanctions to change their agenda. I understand Obama’s pro Muslim sympathies since his father was a Muslim and therefore is choosing naive wishful thinking. He is willing to sacrifice Israel as America’s first line of defense. Ironically, America protects many of its European and Far East allies from threat of attack but Americans are not willing to come to the aid of Israel. It is up to us to voice to Obama that he as President of the United States of America take action now to stop Iran from going any further in developing nuclear weapons. Obama was elected for “change” not surrender.
Why are zionist Jews better than fundamentalist Muslims?
jews dont blow up each other or threaten to wipe out a neighbor state. jews dont blow up christians in nigeria or kill africans in the sudan, .........oooooooooo jews bad, muslims good.......ooooooooooooo
For one thing, they don't treat women like garbage. They also don't stone people to death or behead them. Or hijack planes and fly them into buildings, killing thousands.
ur not making sense ur analogy is terrible or whatever your trying to say. are you trying to compare zionist jews and fundamental islam... ill answer it for you= entitlement=hatred... there you go did i answer your question.
Islam is no more threatening than any other religion. In my view they are equally dangerous in spreading their view points. They are equally backward in their thinkings- this could be teachings from Moses, Jesus and Mohammad to name the few.
Before making any recommendations and making comparisons to Hitler, lets first intelligently reviewing history of who has killed more people around the world. Who has send assassins to kill people without judge and jury.
Finally killing is not acceptable, regardless I call them my friends or enemies. People around the world should be the means of generating restrains for their own government- this would be for Iranian people for their government, USA, and every where.
No one knows for 100% sure that Iran doesn't already have a nuke/nukes.
Which is why Israel has been so hesitant to make good on their threat to attack Iran for the past ten years. So far they have been empty threats, because they probably suspect what you mentioned – that it is too late to stop them now.
Iran is not letting the inspectors inspect. Iran needs to be told that most of the rest of the world wants the inspectors to be able to inspect and if they don't allow that then they will be attacked hard. Then they need to be attacked hard. If the US is going to try to keep from getting nuclear detonations going off within 15 years max it's not going to be pretty what we have to do. It's not easy to make the hard decisions, that's why there called hard decisions. But there is no other decision because if Iran gets nukes their leaders are insane and they will use nuclear bombs. They will help terrorists with nukes, etc. And just like Pakistan, now that they have nukes, we have no say about them helping bin laden or taliban.
If we go into war against Iran, I hope it is your kids that will be doing the fighting (not mine). It seems like you haven't learned the lessons of Iraq & Afghanistan?
@diego, do you even know what a blockade is? Simply put it's an act of war that keeps everyone out of a port or territorial waters and sinks those who try to slip through. Last I checked we haven't sank any cargo or oil ships lately.
"Who thinks that if a war does happen (regardless of who starts it) China, Russia, or India will defend Iran" - Russia has already warned Israel in public not to attack Iran. What they said privately to Israel could be much tougher. An attack on Iran will ultimately lead to use of nukes and Russia would not like THAT to happen near its borders and subsequent NUCLEAR CLOUD drifting over them. Russia probably told them in private that if that happened they could expect Russian RETALIATION, because that's what Russians would demand. And Pakistan also would not keep quiet if affected by the radiation. It will become a DO & DIE scenario. That's for sure.
what about the acts by the yankee empire??? flying spy drones over their territory killing its scientists, blockading them???
Diego, that is hypocrisy from the world and Iran does not give a damn. Who is going to stop Iran? Who could do it and has not done it? Nobody! Because Iran is another free country in the world, the US can do no shit about it. You want to know why? Iran will sink US ships in the Golf, the same day it will be attacked!!!
the golf?
Too bad that Jamie Crawford can't get his facts straight. Iran never refused to let inspectors into certain sites. It said that you can see certain sites once the correct protocols have been agreed to and understood by both parties. The reason for this is that certain sites have "legitimate" national security issues and no one can just blunder in there and then spread that understandably secret information everywhere and to whoever they please. This is a normal request by Iran for legitimate reasons that the international community has already established ..........and for good reasons. So it is unfair and actually grossly misleading for Crawford to state that Iran will not allow inspections. The sad thing is that Crawford must be well aware of this important fact and yet he chooses to ignore it. It seems he would rather inflame hate and fear by not telling you. Very bad interpretations of the facts and also dangerous to world peace.
due where do you get your information from. First of all if a nation is a signatory of the UN, NPT and IAEA. Then the inspectors must tell when they are coming into the country and how long they will be in the country. Upon being in the country then all nuclear sites are open to inspections at the inspector's choosing. Iran pulled this crap with protocols and that an agreeance was necessary for the date to go to the site. The point of the inspectors to go to sites of their choice, time and date is to ensure a signatory country isn't hiding or doing something against the Nuclear Proliferation Treat...which Iran is a signatory and must abide by the UN, NPT rules,and conduct protocols. So stop assuming that Iran's request was legit. In fact read and more importantly understand the actual treaty that Iran signed.
Are you saying that Iran can just build nuclear bombs but make an excuse for the inspectors not being allowed to see that Iran is building nuclear bombs?
Deryk, you are absolutely right! And to wrap up the "interesting" discussions, if Israel and the US can have their bomber carry nukes ready to be dropped on Iran, what in the world can forbid Iran from getting nukes? Do we threaten Pakistan? NO, because they will certainly deliver a mushroom cloud where we don't want one. So once Iran has a nuke, I think we will start having world peace!
right wold peace because than saudi arabia will want them, and yemen and somalia etc. the idea is to limit nukes not spread them around . you really are a dummy
I really like Rick's responses. As For Adam's "then we we have world peace," he is correct only when Rick's prediction comes to fruition...that all middle eastern countries have nukes. They hate each other just as much as they hate the U.S. so we could save a lot of aid (taxpayer $s) to those nations by just sitting back watching them destroy each other.
Think about it morons! If Israel has 200 nukes, then it is fair for every Arabic country to have at least 10 nukes, this should balance the equation for if they want to destroy the region, everybody goes including Israel.
p.s. I am sorry I forgot to explain the equation, morons like you may not understand. So Israel shoots one Nuke at every Arabic state and every Arabic state shoots one nuke at Israel. Hummm! Scary for Israel, right? Well if Arabs have to make Israel pay back for the 1948-2012 atrocities committed to the Palestinians, then before 2100 pay back will be hard for Israel to endure. The Arab spring is coming with the new generations that Israel and the US will have to deal with. Boy and you thought Saddam and Kadafi were bad... Don't worry if morons like you don't understand it is OK: not everybody can understand...Cheers!
muslim apologists are all out tonite. must be a gathering around the hookah at the local islamic center
Absolutely right again...downfall of the west will be a direct result of political correctness.
I'm with the inbreds and Bible thumpers on this one, lets start a blood bath on a global scale so horrifying that it'd have to force the sky spook to finally get off his fat ass and come back down.
YAY GOD!
That would be pretty cool. Just MAYBE enough to make a believer out of me...
There is nothing for Iran to be afraid of. Obongo aint gonna do anything, If Bush was in officw they wouldnt be jerkin our chain..
Hey Dumbass,
Its was under your boy, Bush that the hardliners were able to consolidate power in Iran and gain an upper hand in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
I know, facts are a real pain in the ass, aint they?
When Bush was in office, we were attacked.
On American soil.
Bush was as much responsible for that, as Obama was responsible for letting unemployment reach 13%
Iran's best defence is to act like a crazy person, I am talking homeless crazy. I mean with all of the crazy talk their acting like one of those crazy people on the street. You don't see anyone messing with them. The only problem this crazy person has talked people in to making a bomb for him.
The trouble with Iran is that if they get nukes, they WILL use them. Maybe not right away, but soon enough.
Ahmadinejad has said that he dreams of Iran becoming a "martyr nation." He thinks that a mutual exchange of nukes with Israel will make Iran the victor, because their people will be martyrs going to paradise, while the Jews will be ... you know.
As for those bleating that the U. S. is more dangerous than Iran because we dropped two of them at the end of WWII, they seem to be unwilling to recognize that the very fact that we did it, and saw the horrific consequences, has made us profoundly determined not to ever do it again. In those days, few people had any idea just how devastating nuclear bombs could be. Even if the experts told them of it. That's not the same as "relating" to the knowledge.
We were in a quandry back then. A land war would have killed many hundreds of thousands of Japanese, perhaps millions of them, and over an extended period of time which would have left the country FLAT. It's hard to imagine a harder decision for any president to have to make than that one. While the bomb was every bit as terrible as we know it to be now, the alternative would have been worse – except for the radiation, which isn't an effect of land wars. Even so, there's reason to believe the right decision of the two the president had, was the one that was taken. I don't know anybody who'd have wanted to be in his shoes making that decision, though. It's easy to be judgmental when the decision wasn't in YOUR hands. The choice was made entirely on the basis of which would kill more people. That would have been the land war.
But we DID learn from it. You can be sure Iran wouldn't, even those who could somehow survive Israel's counter-nuking. The Iranians would still want to nuke Israel again – or the U.S. They are incapable of learning NOT to use nukes, because Muslims care nothing for humanitarian concerns, often not even for their own people. Taking over the world for Allah is all that matters to them.
Great tactic there...
Post about 5 paragraphs worth of BS so that even if someone wanted to refute your halfwitted nonsense, they'd just get bored from reading the bile your posted, and they'd be on their merry way
Sam, good there are people like you to kill off insanity in this country. There are cowboys who still ride donkeys for a life thinking they are on top of the world. Just mindless jerks whose wish of a crusader war has cost America thousands of lives, hundred of thousands of handicapped and a hole in the budget that has made us a super power slave nation of China. Bush meanwhile runs his awesome "intelligence" in his Texas ranch waiting for judgement day.
They're nowhere near as ignorant as you would like them to be.
Filthy Hippy....right on!! They are not ignorant, but they are ruthless. A power grab in the name of religion allows the iranians justification in their actions. But they are also giant pussies as they use proxies (hezbollah) for their state sponsored terror, never owning up to their own actions. I'm sure when they deliver a nuke to israel or the U.S. they will deny having a part in it...even though the jet fumes will trace directly back to Tehran.
Of course assume "the enemy" is a subhuman, faceless raving maniac and thats all the justification you need. Wake up and smell the coffee! The situation is much more complex than appears. Much of Irans rhetoric is for Sunni Arab as well as Western consumption. Understand that the Sunni Arabs know that all the Arab Holy places would be destroyed if Iran attacked Israel. They dont want that so they will gently remind Iran of the Sunni nukes (Pakistan) that will come inot play if Iran tries something nihilistic. But the Sunni's (with Russian and Chinese help) would back an Arab country against Israel if Israel strikes first – particularly so if as I pointed out before, Israel uses tactical nukes to destroy the underground facilities. That is why, regardless of its fears, Israel cannot strike preemptively.
A strike against Iran would be a hollow victory, and would be followed shortly thereafter by a conflict which would quickly escalate. Deterrence is still the only sure way to prevent nuclear war. The weapons by their very nature are useless, because if they are used.......................
I thought Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was great in "Taxi Driver"....
You talking to me?
Read people, READ!!! Fun fact... Iran has the largest Jewish community among the Muslim world by far. Funny thing is that we don't hear about these things here. Are the Israelis prepared to reign terror on them? Also, why is it that anytime someone doesn't agree with the politics of Israel... they "hate" jews?? LOL! We told the Native Americans, Southerners, Blacks, Japanese, women and gays to "get over it" here in America. Why can't the Jews grow up and get on with it. OR, join the grown people at the table and sign treaties like true allies have? Then you will lead by example, not words. I'm just saying...
just an over reaction, besides when someone calls you a jew hater, do you really take them seriously?
I don't think Israel is interested in turning Iran into a sea of glass. They only want to keep Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. An attack on Iran wouldn't put the Jewish population of Iran in anymore danger than they are already in.
When one nation tells another that intends to wipe it off the face of the earth...you pay attention. My main concern is a low level conflict is going to escalate into a full-blown regional conflict that affects everyone.
TAKE a fact test. google real translation of that speech. The fasrsi was mistranlated to say that. He actually aid to wipe off Zionism off the map.
So according to your concern, if Israel foolishly attacks Iran, can it stand 100 years of war? They barely made the 33 days against Hzbllah in Lebanon when most of Israelis spent them in bunkers. The true equation is that: can Israelis endure what Iranians can endure? NO!!!!!!!!!!! So Israel better think 100 times before attempting what could be not only unsuccessful but deadly for the people of Israel.
The chances of Israel turning Iran into a "sea of glass" is as remote as Iran turning Israel into a radio-active parking lot.
I found it fascinating that you can write about real v. bluster in the Iranian dispute with all the discussion on what is real and bluster on the Iranian side. Perhaps the authors believe that the United States has gotten completely honest about foreign threats since Iraq in 2002?
There is still no evidence Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapons program.
iran will suffer the same fate as iraq / saddam
Not under Obongo
America will suffer the worst case of hysteria that it has ever known. Iran is unbeatable! Just think about what has happened to America every time it tried to meddle in Iranian affairs.
CNN reported this week, or maybe late last week, that Iran has admitted to have enriched it's plutonium to 20%. For nuclear power generation of electricity (what Iran claims is it's goal for nuclear power), on 5% enrichment is required. For a nuclear bomb, >90% enrichment is required. If Iran's only goal is to generate electricity why would they enrich beyond 5%??? hmmmm....lets think about it....
As much as I wish Irans nuclear program stopped, I must point out that 20% is what is needed for medical isotopes. It is a legitimate level of enrichment for peaceful purposes.
Israel just sold 1.5 Billion worth of weapons to Muslim Azerbaijan next door. Tells me there is more hype here in the USA than in Israel itself over Iran's blustering.
Asuming that Iran will act rationally is a huge leap that I would never make. Will they make a calculated political decision? Will they make a Shia End-Times dash toward war? Will they continue their 'low level' terrorist proxy wars?
I don't think anyone can answer these questions with certainty. I fear that the world is going to stand by (like we did in the years before the start of WW II) and let Iran take us into a large scale destructive war that we'll all regret.
us should face the fact: iran has become a Regional power in middle east after the war of afghan and iraq.
The real danger is that because of how Iran has hardened its facilities, it would require a strike with tactical nuclear weapons by Israel/US to fully take them out. if that happens, the genie is out of the bottle. Today there are still Arab states that would be willing to support a two state solution. If Israel/US preemptively nukes a fellow Arab state all hell will break loose. China and Russia will move to provide support to the Arab states perhaps even going so far as providing them with tactical nukes of their own to deter Israel/US. The situation could get out of control very fast.
Israel/US has little to gain by attacking Iran. It would only insure that the Arab states would unify against it, and seek nuclear arms as a deterrent to Israel/US.
A lesson can be learned from observation of the North Korean situation. They too threatened to annihilate the South once they weaponized and we heard dire predictions of what would happen if they did. The North was categorized as a a non-rational actor that would start flippin around nukes as soon as they got them. did not and will not happen because they are rational and deterrence still works. CJC Dempsey is right. There is no need to attack Iran as the collateral risks are just to great.Sanctions will work if given time. An attack virtually assures a wider conflict and pursuit of nuclear weapons by other Arab states. That can only culminate in disaster.
You should learn more about American weaponization. First of all we wouldnt need to use a small tactical nuke to take out the Homs facility....or as you called it Iran's hardened tactical facilities. We have some pretty cool and very capable bunker type weapons that could easily take out the Homs facility and render it useless and take several years to rebuild.
Who thinks that if a war does happen (regardless of who starts it) China, Russia, or India will defend Iran?
Well, it won't be Russia or India – they hate Muslims.
and we are in major debt to China so it would not be beneficial to China to go against us so yeah, none of the three would help Iran.
I'm pretty sure that just about everyone does at this point.
@Jon – I don't – despite the efforts of our politicians and media mouth-pieces to make me feel otherwise.
How would a war between Israel and Iran pan out anyway? Iran – Nobody wants to occupy it, invade it, or anything. It just becomes an air war, missiles launched, strategic sites pwned. Neither side can move their ground forces. Maybe increased terrorist attacks in Israel... Just feels weak.
crude dude! they get crude from them, what kind of fuel your car uses? "jewish fart" or "kosher salt"? c`mon dude it`s a crude not a bible or torah, crude..dude!
LET THE GOD OF ISRAEL BE MY GOD,MY GOD IS NOT THE SAME WITH THE SO CALLED THE Allah OF IRAN
Does your god read CNN?
Their God is your God, get over it sons of Abraham.
Wrong, @Truthship. Your Truthslipped on that one. Muslims CLAIM they worship the same god, but it's only because they sort of "edited" the bible books rather shamelessly. In THEIR version of the bible, Jesus and Moses were MUSLIMS. Prophets, but Muslims. They rewrote a whole lot, in an attempt to convince people that Islam had ALWAYS existed, when it, obviously, hasn't.
The god of Abraham was a really nasty guy, but the Muslim version of god is infinitely worse. No, they do not worship the same god – by a long shot. The Abrahamic god had at least an occasional moment of lucidity. I have yet to find any in Allah. Allah preaches hate and global conquest. The Abrahamic god never took its insanity that far.
I've studied Islam for many years, and am a non-theist, so I have no religious agendas or axes to grind. I know a lot, especially about Christianity and Islam, enough to know that saying Allah is the same god is pure LIES.
By trying to rewrite the bible, the Muslims were trying to usurp the Abrahamic god and get people to believe his name is Allah. It's so far out that it shouldn't go over with anyone but other Muslims.
It's a pity that political correctness should make such an outrageous claim actually believable outside of Islam.
True, they are NOT the same.
Shut up now your Jew............... Israelis kills innocent Christian palestinians every day and blow up churches on daily basis......... let's not forget that Israeli media curse Jesus Christ and Mary !!!
Sources for that? or did you just pull it out of your ass like the rest of your bull shit "facts" that dumb Conservative Christians are too close minded to see.
You cannot deny that you the Jewish people and Islam are brothers – you from Jacob, and they from Ishmael, both sons of Abraham. Stop denying it. It is very well documented in the Bible.
CRUDE DUDE! forget about your spirituality and holly land( which doesn`t have crude) Yes Dude: it`s all about CRUDE!
The countdown has begun...
To what? I hope its pizza.
YES! to the destruction of the illegal state of Israel
Very curious to see Ivan in Tehran talking to Wolf in the Sitroom...What's that about ?? Something is going on here.
Both Ivan and Wolf were very blase about the fact and the reporting was very restrained....I would love to know what's
happening. Surely I'm not alone in finding this curious.......
Israel: What is it thinking?
Risking world chaos, the only nuclear weapons state, which has not even signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Israel, is threatening other countries with war by the assumptions it makes, and risks American national securety by trying to drag them into another war.
MIND YOUR F BUSINESS
Pathetic Zionist response.
Say what? Dragging the US into a war is our "business". You are dumb as they come.
Completely agre
By in large, the American public agree
I have to believe that Iran knows full well what the sanctions in June will do to their economy and the displease of the Iranian citizens when unemployment rises and the value of money depreciates. The Iranian leaders have threatened other countires and rejected the inspectors full access to their facilities. The intention was deliberate to provoke Israel into making a haste decision to attack their nuclear facilities. They need to rally their people and other Arab countries against Israel. Iran has a long term plan to remove the nation of Israel from the Middle East. They can not do it by themselves, they need many Arab nations to side with them against Israel. It may take five or more years to amass a major Arab assult against Israel. This posturing by Iran is only the begining. I believe they are willing to take a hit on their nuclear facilities to bond their people and other Arab countries in a common cause against the nation of Israel.
Problem with your wild speculation is that many Middle East countries do not have any ties or signed partnership agreements with Iran. Your theories need meat on them. Kosher if you prefer.
Very true, Iran has longterm goals of regional hegemony and would love to be the nation that, in the eyes of Muslims, reclaimed al-Quds from the Zionists. Iran has passed a point of no return, though. They have already boasted all over state media for the past months about how "Iran will never bow to the west", and that "the Zionists control the west and want to plunder Iran's resources and stop the spread of Islam". They're slowly dying from the inside as Iran is forced to sell oil to countries like India using rupees, which quite honestly are pretty worthless in the international market, but will never be able to agree to terms with the west because their leaders would lose face entirely in the eyes of their public. Iran is being backed into a corner, and before long will either break or bite. I have a feeling that a religious theocracy might be inclined to throw a hail-mary and attack Israel, calling it a jihad and hoping to rally Muslims against Israel and the west, if they feel as though they have no other option.
Iran is NOT an Arab country and their form of Islam is in opposition to that practiced in places like Saudi Arabia. They would not expect to get support from Arab countries.
If the enemy is Israel. they will get the support regardless.