Is Iran another North Korea?
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad listens to a nuclear expert during a tour of Tehran's research reactor on February 15, 2012 .
February 27th, 2012
07:58 PM ET

Is Iran another North Korea?

By Elise Labott

Last week the U.S. point man for talks on North Korea, Glyn Davies, met with his North Korean counterparts for the first time since the death of Korean leader Kim Jong Il and the subsequent transfer of power to his son Kim Jong Un.

The talks were aimed at reviving a proposal to exchange U.S. nutritional aid to North Korea for a halt to Pyongyang's uranium enrichment program.

The prospective deal was expected to lead to the resumption of disarmament talks between the two countries along with China, South Korea, Russia and Japan, and to more extensive quantities of food aid for North Korea. An announcement had been slated for the week Kim died, but was delayed to give the new regime a chance to regroup.

In an interview with CNN, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke of "modest progress," but no breakthroughs.

"We've always said that we are willing to talk," she said in the interview. "This is the first time that, under this new leader, we've had this opportunity, and we'll follow through."

Since the so-called "six-party talks" effort began in 2003, North Korea has played a game of yo-yo with the world; following nuclear antics with gestures meant to demonstrate Pyongyang's commitment to halt its nuclear weapons program.

In 2005 the world powers and North Korea reached an agreement in which Pyongyang would abandon its nuclear program, resume compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and allow international inspectors to return. In exchange, North Korea would receive food and energy assistance and a chance to normalize relations with the United States.

Since then, North Korea conducted a nuclear weapons test in 2006, demolished its cooling tower at its main nuclear power plant and handed over thousands of documents on its program to the United States. In recent years as tensions with the United States and South Korea have increased, North Korea has undertaken efforts to restart its program.

The administration refuses to acknowledge North Korea as a nuclear power although it's a distinction without a difference. North Korea has nuclear weapons and the test to prove it.

The United States is now trying to walk back a North Korean nuclear program that has matured while the international community allowed the regime to play for time to build a nuke under the guise of talking.

Is the U.S. now repeating these mistakes with Iran?

Last week Iran sent a letter that it was ready for talks on its nuclear program "as soon as possible." It was a delayed response to an October letter from European Union Foreign Policy Chief Catherine Ashton, who is leading contacts between Iran and the so-called "P5 plus one" group of nations, inviting Iran to a new round of talks aimed at forging an agreement to address international concerns over Iran's nuclear program. The P5 plus one group is made up of the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council - the United States, the United Kingdom, China, Russia and France - plus Germany.

Tough sanctions on the regime have begun to trickle down to the Iranian people, and the suffering is sure to intensify once curbs against Iranian oil exports take effect in June. The United States and its allies believe those biting sanctions are what is bringing Iran back to the table.

We've been here before. The world's six major powers - Britain, China, France, Germany, Russia and the United States - first started negotiating with Iran over it's nuclear program in 2008. The following year, Iran reneged on an agreement to ship most of the enriched uranium it had made out of the country in exchange for fuel for the Tehran Research Reactor, which is used to make isotopes for medical diagnosis.

The last round of talks took place in January 2011 without any results. Since then, Iran's nuclear program continues to develop.

According to the most recent report by the International Atomic Energy Agency, Tehran continues to expand operations at its underground facility at Fordow, as well as at its Natanz site, producing uranium enriched to 20%, a key level of achievement if Iran decides to create nuclear weapons.

Fordow is built deep into a mountain near the city of Qom, making it difficult to attack. Nuclear development at that facility is considered a major flashpoint for Israel, which has fueled speculation Israel will argue that Tehran is nearing "the point of no return" in its development of nuclear weapons and will be forced to launch a pre-emptive strike.

Even as the regime seeks talks with world powers, Iranian officials refused last week to provide IAEA inspectors access to Parchin, a key military installation, and dismissed the concerns of inspectors as based on "unfounded allegations."

During her interview with CNN, Secretary Clinton called the Iranian actions "certainly troubling."

She was asked what the United States thinks is going on at Parchin and other sites the Iranians are preventing the IAEA from getting access to.

"We want to know what's going on in those sites," she said. "And the fact that they are secret, heavily protected sites seems to suggest something's going on the Iranians don't want the IAEA or the world to know about. That can only raise suspicions even higher than they already are."

The "P5 plus one" is ready to meet with the Iranians, Clinton said, "if they came to the table prepared to talk about their nuclear program."

But is this North Korea all over again with Iran simply playing for time, agreeing to an endless series of meetings over a course of years which ends with Tehran testing a nuclear weapon?

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  3. angrybadger

    The editor who wrote this piece is a war mongering fleabag. Iran is not a crazed/foolish country like North Korea. Youre dealing with an Iranian equivalent of Bush here, not Kim Jong Ill. Stop War Mongering CNN, you Zionist driven machine.

    February 29, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Reply
    • factnotrhetoric

      It seems to me that there is a huge, world wide, war mongering media campaign.
      It's not just CNN. All of the news media wants war to raise their ratings.
      The news media is as bad as the Saudi Dictator and his Saudi Puppet Obama.
      All three are willing to kill millions of innocent Middle Eastern Civilians, and kill Thousands more American Soldiers, to make more money.

      February 29, 2012 at 8:31 pm | Reply
  4. aj

    Why don't we have the balls to stop them from getting nukes? We're a superpower. Sure we can pick on the weak dictators, but we won't "dare" to stand up to a half decent belligerent nation.

    February 29, 2012 at 8:40 am | Reply
    • factnotrhetoric

      Attacking Iran has nothing to do with nuclear weapons. It's the Saudi Dictator wanting to overthrow, Syria, Iran and Israel.

      Attacking Iran is handing Iran over to a worse, genocidal, Hitler-Like, Saudi Dictator, that will genocide the Iranian people because they are of a different sect.

      Yeah, lets kill millions more innocent civilians for the Saudi Dictator to make more money, and we can use the Saudi written UN Nuclear Reports, and the Saudi written Human Rights Reports, to justify the massacre.

      The Saudi Dictator is lying to the world through the UN reports. The one thing you can count on from any "Saudi written Sharia Law" follower is continual lying. "Saudi written Sharia Law", requires by law, that Saudis lie to everyone who does not have Sharia Law in their constitutions, like Americans and the members of the UN.

      Do you recognize the lying out of our Saudi Puppet Obama? The youtube video of "7 lies in under 2 minutes" shows Saudi Puppet Obama's golden tongued ability to lie to the American People. This is required under "Saudi written Sharia Law".

      February 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Reply
  5. Matt

    I am not for NUKEs is anyway shape or form. But would trust a Korean with a nuke long before I would trust ANY Islamic state. They just don't repect life or other people.

    February 29, 2012 at 8:09 am | Reply
    • angrybadger

      are you so close minded to say that? You realize that Commies are far more dangerous than Islamists, right? Islamic Extremists differ from Islamists.

      February 29, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Reply
  6. I.A.E.A INSPECTOR

    Iran isn't dumb enough to launch a strike against Israel. They know full well what the world community would do in response to such a strike. But Iran would be willing to to fill a back pack with a dirty bomb and get a nut job looking to make a name for himself to go to some city and blow himself up in the name of Allah. Of course denying any involvement

    February 29, 2012 at 7:38 am | Reply
    • JimfromBham

      I agree with your assessment, but a "dirty bomb" is a broad term for a variety of devices, many of which do not involve the efforts being made by Iran to weaponize their nuclear program. Based on what we can see in the murky haze of our intel and press coverage of Iran, there are a limited number of conclusions to draw. The most logical is that they are developing the technology to make and deliver a nuclear weapon. The real question is whether they are there yet.

      February 29, 2012 at 7:45 am | Reply
      • I.A.E.A INSPECTOR

        If they aren't there thay are close. The Iranians having the technology don't bother me what bothers me is what they are willing to do with it the president of Iran was involved in the Iran hostage crisis Ans to me that makes him a terrorist ..now terrorist having the technology? That bothers me..

        February 29, 2012 at 8:07 am |
  7. JimfromBham

    Too bad the bloggers here are not on video so we can see if they are foaming at the mouth. some of these rants are simply rabid.

    February 29, 2012 at 7:15 am | Reply
    • aj

      What do you expect, its a liberal media forum.... Everyone wants power over other people and to control their thoughts and ideas....

      February 29, 2012 at 9:01 am | Reply
  8. Krehator

    If so, we will never do anything about it. Instead we will probably invade a different country on the mere suspicion of WMD's, spend trillions of dollars, and waste thousands of lives, only to walk away with nothing achieved.

    February 29, 2012 at 7:07 am | Reply
  9. bezerkur

    Nuclear weapons should be banned everywhere. No nation should have the power to destroy the world. It should of never been used in Japan even though it saved a million U.S lives.

    February 29, 2012 at 5:29 am | Reply
    • factnotrhetoric

      I agree. But we can't turn back the hands of time.

      We can stop the next Hitler though. Maybe the world won't need to use nuclear weapons if we stop Hitler before he spreads and the situation becomes so bad that nuclear weapons must be used, like in Japan.

      We can stop the Saudi Dictator from world conquest by stopping Saudi Puppets Obama and Clinton from overthrowing Syria, Iran and Israel to hand them over to the Saudi Dictator.

      Stop the next Hitler now before someone in the world turns to using nuclear weapons to stop him.

      February 29, 2012 at 6:40 am | Reply
    • justin

      You said it ur self, it saved a million u.s. lives...but we shouldnt have used it? Two GOOD things came out of using that bomb (s). Yes millions were saved and since then not one has been used because the world saw the destruction it causes. Deterence from execution.

      February 29, 2012 at 7:34 am | Reply
  10. JackWagon

    There is one big difference between Iran having nukes and NK having nukes. NK is far less likely to use their nukes in a preemptive attack. Iran on the other hand believes that is they are martyrs for their religious cause they will be rewarded with plenty of young virgins when they die. They have said they want to blow Israel off the map and that the US is the great satan. That's crazy leadership and if they get nukes they'll use them preemptively sooner than later.

    February 29, 2012 at 4:33 am | Reply
    • factnotrhetoric

      Be more specific. It's not just Iran that has Jihadists. It's any country that has "Saudi written Sharia Law" in their constitutions. It's Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Kenya. They all have "Saudi written Sharia Law" in their constitutions.

      "Saudi written Sharia Law" requires every Citizen of that country, to Jihad (be at war with) any country that does not have "Saudi written Sharia Law" in their constitution. So every citizen of Iraq, and Afghanistan, are required by their constitutions to Jihad, or be at war with Americans. If any citizen, of any of these countries protests, or speaks out against the bloody dictator, they will have their heads publicly cut off in the Town Square, as a severe warning to the rest of the citizens. This too is legal under "Saudi written Sharia Law."

      It was legal under "Saudi written Sharia Law" for the Saudis to fly jets into the twin towers and blame it on Afghanistan and Iraq. It's legal to suicide bomb innocent civilians, in any country that does not have "Saudi written Shari Law" in their constitution. It's legal to burn churches, or run down Christian protesters in the streets of Egypt, with American Tanks, under "Saudi written Sharia Law".

      No it's not just Iran. It's all the countries that Saudi Puppets Obama and Clinton have given to the Saudi Dictator at the cost of Thousands of American Soldier's Lives, $Trillions of BORROWED American Dollars and the killing of over one-million innocent Middle Eastern Civilians.

      February 29, 2012 at 7:04 am | Reply
  11. Random2012

    the people of iran are good people. the gov and leaders of the country are a bunch of shitheads.

    February 29, 2012 at 4:15 am | Reply
  12. Socrates

    Get real, this is the new North Korea.
    PLUTONIUM PRODUCTION: Once described as a "textile factory," the Dimona Center actually produces about 40 kilograms of weapons grade plutonium every year and has been doing so for 10 and possibly 20 years. The entire facility is protected by anti-aircraft defenses.

    LOCATION: Dimona is located 8.5 miles from the town of the same name. Given that about four kilograms of weapons grade plutonium are used in each nuclear weapon, Israel has produced enough plutonium at Dimona to construct between 100 and 200 nuclear weapons. It has also produced about 170 kilograms of Lithium-6, which would produce about 220 kilograms of lithium-6 deuteride. Roughly 6 kilograms are needed to construct a thermo-nuclear weapon. Israel could, therefore, have as many as 35 thermo-nuclear weapons.

    STRUCTURE: Once described as a "textiles factory" by David Ben-Gurion, Dimona is made up of separate blocks. Currently, there are nine of these blocks, called machons. Machons 1, 2, 8 and 9 are directly involved in producing materials for nuclear or thermo-nuclear weapons; the others provide services for these four.

    THE REACTOR: Machon 1, the domed structure is the reactor built by France. Machon 2 is the reprocessing plant which removes the plutonium produced in the reactor. It also contains an operation that separates the isotope lithium-6 from natural lithium for ultimate use in thermonuclear weapons. This is the key facility and the primary target in any raid on the center. Without it, there is no nuclear weapons development. Of the 2,700 employees at Dimona, only 150 are permitted access to Machon 2, which extends six floors underground.

    THE CENTRIFUGE: Machon 8 contains a gas centifuge for the production of enriched uranium, an alternative fissile material, by an advanced laser enrichment process. And Machon 9 contains a laser isotope separation facility which can be used to enrich uranium and to increase the proportion of isotope plutonium-239 in plutonium, helping Israeli nuclear weapons scientists get more bang for their buck.

    The facility's reactor is now 35 years old and thus reaching the end of its practical lifetime.

    PALMIKHIM AIR BASE

    TEST RANGE: Palmikhim is where missiles and rockets are assembled and tested. It is the main research and development facility. The US believes that Israel has a capability to develop and launch ICBM's (and is thus a danger to the entire world), although it has never tested one.

    LAYOUT: Satellite photos of the area show an airfield with one runway and seven large hangars (suitable for cargo-liners) inside the security zone. In addition, there are other manufacturing facilities inside the zone. The missile assembly building is at the south end of the security zone, as is the launch site. Some sources indicate that Palmikhim may also be home to an airborne command post that would be used in wartime. Other sources suggest it is located in a hangar at Lod Airport.

    NES ZIONYAA

    CHEMICAL/BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS: Beyond nuclear weapons, Israel is has biological and chemical weapons as well as the means to deliver them, primarily the Jericho missile.

    RESEARCH AND WEAPONIZATION: A 1989 Defense Intelligence Agency report, obtained by the Natural Resources Defense Council, reported that Israel's Jericho missiles could carry high explosive or chemical warheads as well as nuclear. The country's leading chemical and biological warfare facility is at Nes Zionyaa, outside Tel Aviv. The Israeli Institute for Bio-Technology is the home of both offensive and defensive research.

    EILABUN

    NUCLEAR STORAGE: Eilabun is Israel's second weapons storage facility. Tactical nuclear shells and landmines are among its contents.

    LOCATION: Eilabun is located near the town of the same name just west of the Sea of Gallilee off Route 65.

    CONTENTS: There, reportedly, are stored the nuclear artillery shells, nuclear landmines and other tactical nuclear weapons (possibly including neutron bombs (but this seems quite unlikely)).

    The landmines stored here would be taken to holes previously dug along the base of the Golan Heights during a crisis with Syria. The U.S. and Russia both had such landmines, but have abandoned them. The artillery shells could be used to devastate targets as far away as Damascus.

    TIROSH

    NUCLEAR STORAGE: Tirosh is one of two nuclear weapons storage facilities, according to various sources, is located near the town of Tirosh.

    LOCATION: Clearly visible from space, the facility appears as a network of roads linking bunkers spaced about 25 yards apart. There are about 70 bunkers. The facility, also off Israel's Route 38, is heavily guarded and surrounded by a perimeter road and security fences. It is possible that Tirosh is the strategic weapons storage site, while Eilabun is the tactical weapons storage site.

    TEL NOF AIR BASE

    STRATEGIC AIR POWER: Tel Nof is home to Israel's "Black Squadrons," the F-4 and F-16 units assigned to the nuclear strike mission. A large airbase off Route 4, it is located only a few miles from both Tirosh and Hirbat Zekharyah.

    LOCATION: Like the two other nuclear facilities, Tel Nof is just south of Tel Aviv. Several aircraft are believed to be on 24-hour alert at the base. In 1973, eight F-4's were on alert and could have been ordered to drop nuclear bombs on Egyptian and Syrian targets. It is possible that today some of the 24 F-15E "Strike Eagles" are stationed there. The "Strike Eagles" were originally developed as a tactical nuclear bomber and it is the only Israeli aircraft capable of flying a round-trip to Iran without refueling.
    The West created a monster.

    February 29, 2012 at 3:55 am | Reply
    • factnotrhetoric

      socrates
      Then are implying Israel is the next North Korea? This article is about Iran being the next Korea, not Israel.

      Is the Saudi Puppet Obama working on his TODO list for the Saudi Dictator through you sacrates? Saudi Puppet Obama's TODO list includes:
      1) Syria
      2) Iran
      3) Israel
      We all know Israel has probably 200 nukes pointed at Iran and that's why it is so silly to say Iran is going to preemptively strike Israel, or the US, with a nuclear weapon. Israel has stated it will not preemptively strike Iran.

      Saud Puppets Obama and SoS Clinton illegally funded and trained Saddam's Terrorist Organization called the Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK) in Iraq. They are the ones responsible for the bombing of an Iranian Civilian Scientist, which the Saudi Dictator conveniently blamed on Israel. The exact same bomber, using the exact same bomb making materials, was responsible for bombing an Israeli citizen, which the Saudi Dictator, and the Saudi Puppets Obama and Clinton, then blamed on Iran. It was the Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK) funded by the Saudi Dictator and his puppets Obama and Clinton. FALSE FLAG

      The Saudi Dictator is infamous for his FALSE FLAGS like the Saudis flying jets into the twin towers to get Americans to overthrow both Afghanistan and Iraq to hand them over to the Saudi Dictator.

      Expect another Saudi Puppet FALSE FLAG when Saudi Puppet Obama resumes his war games in the gulf with Israel in October, just before the elections. The Saudi Paid MEK will probably blow up an American Ship, or an Israeli ship, and then blame it on the Iranians.

      This is not about nuclear weapons in Iran. This is about getting Saudi Puppets Obama and Clinton to kill more American Soldier's, borrow and spend $Trillions more American Dollars, kill millions more innocent Middle Eastern Civilians to hand more countries over to the Saudi Dictator. This is about the gifts of Syria, and Iran, and Iraq, and Afghanistan, to the Saudi Dictator.

      Saudi Puppet Obama left "Saudi written Sharia Law" in the constitutions of both Iraq and Afghanistan. "Saudi written Sharia Law" in the constitution of any country will turn the country from being a DEMOCRACY into being a bloody, genocidal, SAUDI DICTATORSHIP. Saudi Puppet Obama left "Saudi written Sharia Law" in the constitutions of Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen, and Kenya as even more presents to the Saudi Dictator.

      ENOUGH IS ENOUGH: THIS B.S. ABOUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS, SO SAUDI PUPPET OBAMA CAN KILL MORE AMERICANS, TO HAND MORE COUNTRIES TO THE SAUDI DICTATOR, MUST END NOW

      Israel is more afraid of what Saudi Puppet Obama and the Saudi Dictator will do to Israel, than Israel was ever afraid of the Iranian nuclear program. Israel knows it's on Saudi Puppet Obama's TODO list of countries to overthrow and hand over to the Saudi Dictator.

      February 29, 2012 at 6:23 am | Reply
      • JimfromBham

        @ factnotrhetoric

        While I disagree with Socrates, he seems to be sane but has a misguided axe to grind against Israel in this article about Iranian nuclear capabilities. On the other hand, my friend, you give a couple of facts in a long rant that mainly contains conjecture and imaginary conspiracies at every corner. Please get some help before you choke on the foam coming from your mouth.

        February 29, 2012 at 6:44 am |
    • JimfromBham

      @ Socrates

      Assuming your information is correct (and it does look authentic): Israel has never used its nuclear capability, and has never announced that it will destroy another country, or (in Iran's words) "wipe" them "off the face of the earth". Iranian leadership is simply irrational with their intent to pursue the weaponization of their nuclear program. As a result, they are also sowing the of their own self destruction.

      February 29, 2012 at 6:36 am | Reply
  13. Random2012

    Anyone who thinks irans nuclear enrichment program is for peaceful purposes is an idiot. let me repeat idiot

    February 29, 2012 at 3:46 am | Reply
    • stan

      iran has had in it's posession enough weapons grade uranium to build a single bomb since 1968, yet the material sits safely in tehran under aiea safeguard for the last half century. anyone who thinks that a nation would embark on a decade long, multi billion dollar enrichment program to build a bomb, in full view of the international community, when they ALREADY HAVE what they need to make a bomb, is an idiot.

      February 29, 2012 at 4:08 am | Reply
      • Random2012

        doesnt matter . all they have to do is allow nuclear inspectors to examine their sites in totality. there is no reason they should cover up anything. irans gov. want to explode israel. the people of iran dont care get that in your head. iran is a peaceful country. irans gov and head leaders are crazy and need to get their act togetther. theyre just shitting on the people of iran.

        February 29, 2012 at 4:13 am |
      • stan

        random2012 – iran HAS allowed for inspections of ALL it's nuclear sites. the facility the iaea asked to go to is NOT a nuclear site, but one dedicated to conventional high explosives. They have been to the base in question 2 times in the past and environmental monitoring has confirmed NO nuclear materials were present.

        February 29, 2012 at 4:30 am |
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  15. Mark Pajak

    Iran is worse off than N.Korea b/c Iran is an Islamic country. Islam is a curse on the countries that follow it.

    February 29, 2012 at 2:33 am | Reply
    • Slave..

      I pity you..

      February 29, 2012 at 6:34 am | Reply
  16. Lagos

    Bush is in office and NK and Iran are acting up? Media pundits scream weekly about how bush is going to provoke them for an excuse to invade. Bush 3.0 (Obama) in the white house? It's all about the bad iranians and north koreans.

    February 29, 2012 at 1:29 am | Reply
  17. bam

    North Korean isnt near Israel so it is like comparing apples to oranges. If Iran was near North Korea then the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA wouldnt have this INSANE need to protect israel...... why we are makes no sense. neither country is a threat to the USA and never will be.

    February 29, 2012 at 1:22 am | Reply
    • maryam

      North Korea would have no reason to threaten Israel, for they are not extremist Muslims, looking for a caliphate so they can practice the midevil times to control their people.

      February 29, 2012 at 2:57 am | Reply
  18. panzerduck

    How long does it take to develop 1945 tech ?

    February 29, 2012 at 12:54 am | Reply
    • JLM

      The science is not overly difficult and you can learn it in most college physics classes. The hard part is actually getting the enriched materials in enough quantity to actually make something. You can't just pop on down to the store and buy plutonium or duterium/tritium.

      February 29, 2012 at 1:09 am | Reply
    • midas

      You are talking about cave dwelling wife beating religious fanatics so quite a while.

      February 29, 2012 at 1:10 am | Reply
      • Joe

        Christians?

        February 29, 2012 at 1:23 am |
    • dreammerchant

      Excellent notification :)

      February 29, 2012 at 4:42 am | Reply
  19. Adebayo Billy Abayomi

    Iran should try to co-oprate and open up its facility to IAE for inspection. The super power must do all they can to avert war in the middle east.

    February 29, 2012 at 12:49 am | Reply
  20. midas

    Let isreal kick their ass first then we can lend a helpful punch if its even needed.

    February 29, 2012 at 12:36 am | Reply
    • harry

      Midas, your kind of Rambo mentality gets America in trouble every time. First it was the Soviets and the cold war. After USSR dismantled we found they had nothing. Then Iraq WMD, where are they. Now its Iran and North Korea. These 2 countries are barely surviving with the sanctions in place and you want to kick ass while they are down. For what, to appease Israel.

      Lets get real and think of America first.

      February 29, 2012 at 1:09 am | Reply
  21. AC

    Iran is developing the nuclear technology/bomb for a simple reason: Regime survival. The can see that the North Korea regime is still in power and they got the bomb; Saddam Hussein did not have the bomb and got hung, literally; Ghadaffi decided to be a "good boy", gave up the nuclear program plus his long range missiles, and guess what? Got hunted down, gunned down like a wild animal and left to rot in the hot sun.

    The Iranian regime got their entire legitimacy invested in the nuclear program and they are not about to give it up. The sanctions will be ineffective. The regime was able to survive the onslaught of Saddam's armies aided by the US for 8 years, and did not crumble. Their oil will be sold regardless, minus a 10-15% discount to the inflated price – I am sure there a few Marc Rich types around to take care of the problem.

    Israel? Well, if they could take out the Iranian nuclear program, they would have done a long time ago. Unlike with Iraq, Syria, Iran is 1200 miles away over hostile territory. Nuclear facilities are dispersed and key portions are inside mountains. Any attempt would cause the Iranians to kick the IAEA out... they would have nothing to loose and in a few months they would develop the nukes. If contained Nikita S. Khruschev with this huge nuke arsenal, I am sure we can contain Iran... they are not suicidal any more than the Soviets. In time their regime will collapse anyway.

    February 29, 2012 at 12:34 am | Reply
    • sandyman4090

      couldnt sad it better myslef. Soviets had hundreds of nukes too and were not shy about it. We are worried about maybe 1 nuke that could only detsroy their own regime. The real effort US and Israel needs is the one t help the green movement in Iran back to a revolt like 2009, and aid the people who are so scared of the regime

      February 29, 2012 at 1:35 am | Reply
  22. Neel

    First Israel should open itself to IAEA inspections over its undeclared nuclear weapons estimated around 400 and forced to sign the NPT. It should be condemned by the international community for its over-the top rhetoric and arrogance of threatening to bomb a sovereign nation Iran, who hasnt attacked it...ever..and in the process endangering the stability of the entire Middle-eastern region. The all-powerful Jewish lobby in the US has taken our country hostage to their whim and fancies...

    February 29, 2012 at 12:30 am | Reply
  23. Terry Brookman

    Iran another North Korea, no way. Korea has the ability to attack China, Japan and South Korea and thats about it. They would find their country totally destroyed within hours if they tried that and to what purpose? It's not like the rest of the world would surrender if they did. Iran is a completely different story, my bet is they might do just what they have threatened to do and that is attack Israel. That will be the end of Iran and might light the fuse for the real WWIII. You can bet there are millions of Jews here and in the rest of the world plus there is the Rothschild family that owns seventy percent of the world backing anyone who will fight to avenge the destruction of Israel. It would not stop there, once that card is played they would go for Palestine, Egypt, Syria, Labia and even Pakistan. In for a penny in for a pound and I do not think with Russia and China getting the bulk os the fallout would be very happy. Everyone knows we could not stay out of it, Ever play Risk?

    February 29, 2012 at 12:15 am | Reply
    • sandyman4090

      HAHAHAHA you say rothschild owns 70 percent of the world???? THAT IS A JOKE. We are talkin about entire countries whose money is created from a fountain of oil that is as good as cash. If there comes a time when the Roschild family is needed to defeat Iran we will be in HUGE trouble

      February 29, 2012 at 1:43 am | Reply
  24. Dan

    People like you live in a fantasy world of...how to I say it nicely....stupidity. Have we already forgotten the lessons of World War II? The attempts at peace and appeasement that simply gave Hitler the time he needed to kill 10 million people?! You can't give peace a chance with certain dictators. You have to go in and stop evil, not condone or disdain it on the sidelines. It will grow and grow until it consumes you. The only answer for anyone in WW2 was to go and stop the evil. The only answer for the same evil in fascist Iran is to stop them with missiles from the air and boots on the ground. Just like Hitler and the Nazis, the jihadists will NEVER listen to reason, will take overtures of peace as weakness, and will exploit any kindness as a chance to out-maneuver the world. I wish it were not true, and I don't wish it on any generation, but sometimes in history the only answer is to stop evil the hard way.

    February 28, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Reply
    • TexasChemist

      Hitler massacring millions was only discovered a few months prior to the end of WWII. Hitler attempted to test the response of Britain and France by building the German army against the terms of the treaty of Versailles. When there was no response militarily or even stronger than a written warning, he decided they would make no move on Germany. Then he tested them further by marching this new army into the Rhineland, which was lost by Germany after WWI. Again, Britain and France failed to act. This was not b/c they didn't care, but because both countries were only slightly better shape than Germany. Their cities were destroyed, ports damaged, hospitals were overflowing with war veterans and newly ill civilians suffering from influenza and other ailments brought back by the military. So when Germany saw that no country was willing to attack, he marched is army into Poland. Only then did Britain declare war. France declared war shortly after in solidarity with Britain and WWII officially started. The difference with Iran is that there are not war-torn countries suffering economic destruction that may or may not respond to an attack. Israel will not tolerate an attack. They will respond and harshly. The U.S. will shut down airspace over Iraq and the U.N. will step in to prevent a multi-continent war. If Iran, stupidly, uses a nuclear weapon, no amount of civility and diplomacy will prevent Israel from using several on Iran. There will be no WWIII, only the destruction of Iran and possibly Syria. Russia, China and the U.S. will stay out mostly to avoid a complete international banking and trade collapse.

      February 29, 2012 at 12:33 am | Reply
      • PotHead

        you my friend have done your homework and are right, i must thank you for your wisdom, can we plez, and im beggin here, let Iran get nuclear wepons and let them destroy Isreal and then let Isreal Destroy Iran.... seems simple to me, if u have 2 friends who hate each other and wana fight each other, why not let them fight and grab a 6pack and enjoy the show :D

        February 29, 2012 at 4:56 am |
    • sandyman4090

      YA BUDDY, you are clearly an ignoratn WAR MONGER. You compare Iran to hitler??? IRAN KILLS IRANIANS... not jews not anyone else. IRAN DOES NOT COMPARE TO ANY OF THE SUPER POWERS. Germany on the other hand was technologicaly ahead of the rest of the world, it took a long bloody war to stop Germany. Iran would be destroyed in 4 hours if they even attempted any of Hitler's aggression. Iran is just talk, NO ACTION.

      February 29, 2012 at 1:47 am | Reply
  25. Dan

    There have to be consequences to everyone involved. If Iran gets the bomb after all this "talking" and empty promises that sanctions are working, after everyone has said the Iranians are simply stalling for time, and with so much clear evidence and historical proof that talks fail in cases like this, then we should throw out ALL of the people (bums) in power both in the U.S. the U.N. and other countries for failing us in such an obvious and dramatic way. Iran with the bomb is a massive threat to the world, to peace, to the Earth, to us ALL! If our leaders cannot stop the obvious threat when they have a chance, then they should not occupy the offices and positions of responsibility they hold now. (This includes Obama!) STOP IRAN, OR LOOSE YOUR JOBS!

    February 28, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Reply
    • TexasChemist

      If Iran does declare they have a nuclear weapon, it will actually be a benefit in several ways.
      1. There will no longer be any diplomacy. The U.S. and E.U. will not have to go through the U.N to block ports, shut down banks and arrest Iranian nationalists.
      2. Russia and China will have lost all face in the U.N. and will have virtually no say in what the rest of the world does to Iran.
      3. Should Iran even try to use a nuclear weapon, I say should b/c their last test of a delivery system actually blew up a missile factory and killed dozens of people, they will cease to exist. Israel will have every reason to eliminate the country and no one will stop them. Israels military is larger, more technically advanced and has a much better supplier than Iran.
      4. The U.S. can easily shut down the Iranian navy and keep the Strait of Hormuz open.

      February 29, 2012 at 12:44 am | Reply
    • sandyman4090

      OR LOOSE YOUR JOBS??? What are u smoking buddy. Iran is no threat to anyone but the Iranian people. U say threat to the world, if they attack in any way, they will be swiftly put down. What is hard to understand about that. You think Iran threatens the entire world???? I say Iran stand no chance of existing past their first attempt at attack

      February 29, 2012 at 1:50 am | Reply
  26. Nuestro

    I'm sure 'sanctions' will solve the problem. keep up the good work you really nifty diplomats. It is really FUN playing diplomacy games isnt it? Have you tried the trench coat and spectacle glasses yet. they are really cool

    February 28, 2012 at 11:27 pm | Reply
    • sandyman4090

      better than multibillion dollar military games.

      February 29, 2012 at 1:51 am | Reply
  27. Texasaaa

    So sad that Ach-mini-jihad will let his mouth over run his potential. His 500,000 man army will be strewn along the desert.
    When you back someone with the potential that Israel has your asking for another Jew boy butt beating.
    Sic Em allies!

    February 28, 2012 at 11:04 pm | Reply
  28. wjeri

    The bombing of Iran due to nuclear bomb development will happen sooner or later.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:47 pm | Reply
  29. on.2.ur.bs

    Maybe Israel should negotiate directly with Iran. Israel turns over all their nukes to the IAEA and Iran allows the IAEA complete access to what ever it has.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:27 pm | Reply
    • AlienShark

      Thats a good idea. I am all for complete world disarmament. I don't trust any single one of these creeps with that kind of power and I don't care what excuse or justification they say about it.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:51 pm | Reply
    • wpqr

      Would you have suggested the United States unilaterally dismantle its nuclear arsenal during the height of the cold war?

      February 28, 2012 at 11:06 pm | Reply
      • on.2.ur.bs

        So why is the world all up in "arms" over a few specific countries but do nothing over others? Should be asking all countries to disarm themselves of Nukes. Very Hypocritical.

        February 28, 2012 at 11:46 pm |
    • Bob Knippel

      Israel has never confirmed the existence of nuclear weapons. Nor have they denied having them, either. Therefore, anyone without an actual need to know is merely speculating about what Israel has or hasn't, which might, in fact, be essential to Israeli defense. After all, considering an attack against a nation presumed to have nuclear weapons is little different from considerating an attack against a nation which actually does, in that in either case, the expectation of retaliation is presumed to be certain, and therefore mutually destructive.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:18 pm | Reply
      • AlienShark

        I am not going to pick one group of murdering basttards over another group of the same. I don't support either regime and I think they are both criminal towards the weak and helpless.

        February 28, 2012 at 11:25 pm |
      • harry

        Did we not attack Iraq because we "thought" they had WMD? Why is it OK for Israel to have and others not to have?

        February 29, 2012 at 1:16 am |
  30. Ted Ward

    Is Iran another North Korea? Does Iran look completely dark from orbit like North Korea?

    February 28, 2012 at 9:59 pm | Reply
  31. EatYouAlive

    I am a Jew. Please comment.

    February 28, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Reply
    • bob ezey

      wAR IS NOT THE ANSWER, NOBODY WINS.....A CONVENTIONAL WAR...THESE DAYS...

      February 28, 2012 at 10:07 pm | Reply
    • bob ezey

      NOBODY WINS.....A CONVENTIONAL WAR...THESE DAYS...

      February 28, 2012 at 10:08 pm | Reply
    • Mario

      We don't care?

      February 28, 2012 at 10:20 pm | Reply
    • AlienShark

      you gotta be kidding me, this comment is like an insult to practicing Jewish people. not cool Eatyou/

      February 28, 2012 at 10:52 pm | Reply
  32. factnotrhetoric

    It's the SAUDI DICTATOR that wants to overthrow Iran and Syria, just like he did Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen and Kenya.

    Saudi Puppet Obama left "Saudi written Sharia Law" in the constitutions of each of these countries. "Saudi written Sharia Law" in the constitution of any country will turn the country from being a democracy into being a Dictatorship for the Saudi Dictator. These were all presents, of whole countries, from Saudi Puppet Obama to the Saudi Dictator.

    Saudi Puppet Obama has already sacrificed Thousands of American Soldier's Lives, Borrowed and Spent $Trillions of American Dollars and killed over a million innocent Middle Eastern civilians to turn these countries over to the Saudi Dictator.

    Now Saudi Puppet Obama has pulled out all stops to overthrow both Syria and Iran for the Saudi Dictator. This will be at the cost of Thousands more American Soldier's lives, $Trillions more Borrowed American Dollars and the killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH SAUDI PUPPET OBAMA: DO NOT SACRIFICE MORE AMERICAN LIVES TO TURN SYRIA AND IRAN OVER TO THE BLOODY, GENOCIDAL, HITLER-LIKE SAUDI DICTATOR.

    The Iranian Dictator is bad. So is the Syrian Dictator. But the bloody, genocidal, Hitler-Like Saudi Dictator is much worse. He will genocide the Iranians and the citizens of Iran know it.

    The Iranian Dictator is taking a hard stance against Americans because of Saudi Puppet Obama and his war to present more countries to the Saudi Dictator.

    February 28, 2012 at 9:36 pm | Reply
    • EatYouAlive

      Dude, your turban is on WAY too tight.

      February 28, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Reply
    • voter

      @ rhetoricnotfacts. Wow, just wow.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:30 pm | Reply
    • Steve

      Why is Obama being called the Saudi puppet, everybody know that title belong to George Bush Sr. and Jr., people forget that the Bushes have been and make decisions that are favorable to the oil rich like the Saudis. Let not forget he wanted to give the security of our ports to Arab owned companies. But Obama is the puppet, people tend to forget that Obama replaced the worst president in American history who did nothing but lie.

      February 29, 2012 at 1:12 am | Reply
  33. bob ezey

    One more thing. All these war drums about ...a unilateral surgical incursion into a sovereign nation by Israel will be a mortal miscalculated mistake. Dont forget the how the ancient Persians operate. They fight to death when attacked. and they never capitulate...and or stop fighting until the last man. There is no such thing as a surgical strike. When Israel went into Iraq to destroy Saddam Hussein's nuclear reactors the world was still in deep sleep. Today Iran is armed to the teeth and any kind of invasive belligerent action against them or an invasion on their sovereignty will be met by an equally devastating response. They have the army and the population to defend themselves. Lets be reasonable here...GIVE PEACE A CHANCE. WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER. AND Lets not forget the bitter consequence of conducting a war in the Arabic peninsular. The worlds energy industry will be affected and more.. Enough said..

    February 28, 2012 at 9:21 pm | Reply
    • EatYouAlive

      Actually, Iran is no match for Israel. Armed to the teeth with archaic weapons. :-)

      February 28, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Reply
      • bob ezey

        Rules of military engagement ...DONT UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMY AND HER MIGHT. U NEVER KNOW. DONT FORGET THAT HITLER SIGNED A NON-AGGRESSION PACT WITH RUSSIA during world war 2 and then made the mortal mistake. He invaded Russian in dead winter. And what happened ? The gamble failed. He said the same thing. That Russia has no modern weaponry.....that he will over run her in days. OPPPssssss . Hitler was wrong. Iran on the other hand is like an enigma code. Those mullas will surprise the heck out of you. Saddam Hussein found out the hard way during his 10yrs of war with Iran....US helped him but he couldn't win. Like i said don't underestimate the other other guys might. Big Mistake. MY solution . LETS DENUCLEARIZE THE REGION. THAT IS THE ANSWER.

        February 28, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • on.2.ur.bs

      Unfortunately the U.S. will save Israel. U.S. has several military bases through-out the area and already has 5 ships there to protect the might Israel. Oh and the shipping lines... can't let the flow of oil stop now can we.

      And I have no doubt U.S. also gave Israel large enough bombs to blow the nuke areas out of the center of the earth.

      Hmmm... who is the aggressor here??

      February 28, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Reply
      • Texasaaa

        Go back to Palenstine, don't step in your bs on the way.

        February 28, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
      • maryam

        Unfortunately? I would feel safer in Israel than I would the oppressive regime ofIran. And guess what? I know many Iranians who would go to Israel if they could leave Iran(even though they love their country, they hate their regime). The regime knows they are skating on thin ice with their own people...now fudging up the satellites, internet, cell phones. Why should they fear their own people? Because they work for Iranian people, and Iranians want to fire them. Their head is just above water, before they drown. QUDS force, wake up-Iran belongs to its people by fair vote, not by religious, oppressive domination! Nor by military control. Fair elections and the country to be governed by all citizens from all populations in the country will one day prevail.

        February 29, 2012 at 3:18 am |
    • Dan

      People like you live in a fantasy world or...how to I say it nicely....stupidity. Have we already forgotten the lessons of World War II? The attempts at peace and appeasement that simply gave Hitler the time he needed to kill 10 million people?! You can't give peace a chance with certain dictators. You have to go in and stop evil, not condone or disdain it on the sidelines. It will grow and grow until it consumes you. The only answer for anyone in WW2 was to go a stop the evil. The only answer for the same evil in fascist Iran is to stop them with missiles from the air and boots on the ground. Just like Hitler and the Nazis, the jihadists will NEVER listen to reason, will take overtures or peace as weakness, and will exploit any kindness as a chance to out maneuver the world. I wish it were not true, and I don't wish it on any generation, but sometimes in history the only answer is to stop evil the hard way.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:45 pm | Reply
  34. bob ezey

    No. A solution to all these bickering. De-denuclearize the entire Mid East. All inclusive. Israel has to disarm too. Fair is fair. To leave one nation the monopoly of having the only nuclear arsenal in the region is dangerous and terribly irresponsible. A complete monopoly of these stupendous and destructive weapons in the hands of a single nation in the Mid east is insane. The world community know it and Iran knows that. Probably why they want to get their paws on one of those in other to guarantee and safeguard themselves against...any sort of military adventurism by the super powers. My take......Let Iran have a nuclear weapon or weapons. What is good for the goose is good for the gander...folks. peace.

    February 28, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Reply
    • wpqr

      You miss a important point. The issue is not the weapon, it's the country that has the weapon. Israel has had nuclear weapons for over forty years. Has it caused an arms race in that region? No, because Israel is a responsible country and even its enemies know it used for one reason – to deter other countries from attacking it. In that respect it could be argued that Israel's nukes have been a force for peace. Since 1973, no country has launched a major war against Israel. But a nuclear weapon in the hands of an insane regime like Iran is a different matter.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:04 pm | Reply
      • bob ezey

        yOU are forgetting one important piece here. The state of Iran has never invaded any nation either....and believe me they are not planning on doing that. Iraq invaded Kuwait and Iran. All true. What Iran is really looking for is a way to deter a potential invasion by the Super powers. They figured that a nuclear Iran will live for ever. Period. The only reason they want the nukes is just for deterrent posture ...thats all.

        February 28, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
      • Mario

        Nuclear weapons did not stop the 1973 war

        February 28, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
      • wpqr

        The fact that Iran has never invaded anyone is meaningless. Until the last century, Japan hadn't invaded anyone in three hundred years. The current regime in Iran has been in power for only 32 years. Since that time they have taken our embassy personnel hostage, were complicit in the attacks in the marine barracks and embassy in Lebanon which killed over 300 Americans, the bombing of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia which killed 19 more Americans and have been aiding the insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan who have killed hundreds of American soldiers.

        And it is true Israel's nukes didn't stop the 1973 war, But when Israel was almost overwhelmed by the Arabs at the beginning of the war, it was Israel declaring a nuclear alert that caused the Arabs to back down. Since then, no country has launched a major attack on Israel.

        February 28, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
  35. Robert L. Kauseud

    When I read this commentary, I am appaled at the ignorance which prevails throughout. Has anybody studied the history between the US and Iran. Have we treated any other nation so shabbily. We've interferred with their internal politics, installed and supported a blloodthirsty Shah, send millions of dollars to Saddam Hussein to fight Iran , etc., etc.,
    But we support dictators all over the Mideast and that rogue state ,Israel which calls the shots for us due to the power of the Jewish lobby. God help us get out of this Mideast Stew without loss of blood and any more loss of our honor.
    Bob K

    February 28, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Reply
    • EatYouAlive

      Sorry, your Zionist paranoia scenario is just that. Paranoia. Classic middle-east thought.

      February 28, 2012 at 9:52 pm | Reply
    • SN

      Exactly, I am appalled by the way journalists are making the case against Iran, it is almost that they want a war to cover. When they say iran reneged on the talks about the transfer of uranium they miss the point that iran was offered conditions which were not acceptable (e.g. time gap of 1 year between the request and the delivery). While Brazil and Turkey came forward to arrange a deal, the coalition of the willing punished Iran by imposing sanctions. When good behaviour is not rewarded then it will lead to a scenario where Iran feels threatened. When Iran raises the slogan of nuclear energy for all and nuclear weapons for none then there is no comment from these same powerful countries, because they do not accept a prospect of reducing their stockpiles on account of a "rogue" nation.

      I feel that the warmongers do not even want to wait for the completion of 100 years of the start of WW1 to start another war at the same level. And the reasons for the coming war are not rooted in disagreements over Iran's nuclear energy/bombs or the zionist misinformation about existential threats from Iran (these are the smokescreens used for coverup) but in the economy and the recession that the world is seeing today. the motivation for war has to do with peak oil, choice of trading currency and ultimately the never ending greed for snatching away other people's natural resources.

      Today the sources of information as well as disinformation are many but it is a shame that we still do not get the way strategies are formulated at the international level by a few, and common peace loving person is still left powerless against the morbid prospects of conflicts. Conflicts which the policy makers not only do not want to solve want to inflame further!

      February 28, 2012 at 11:18 pm | Reply
  36. www.war-in-middle-east.blogspot.com

    Classic case of not learning from one's mistakes. As the old saying goes, history doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme. Meanwhile, the war drums seem to be eating louder in Israel. However, the Israelis have completely overlooked the terrible strategic implications of this approach. Good post here on 10 Reasons Why Israel Should not Attack Iran: http://bit.ly/zoCjX4

    February 28, 2012 at 8:39 pm | Reply
  37. Locke

    The situation between Iran and Israel is being looked at too narrowly. Everyone seems to be ruling out the possibility that Iran may already have a nuclear weapon. It sounds wild to some but it is a contigency that must be approached. Irans Nuclear program is literaly underground. The mountain filled with tunnels that support the movement of these weapons.

    One of the best situations that Iran would find itself in would be a situation where Israel took preemptive action before they reach the "point of no return." This would make Iran justified by many Middle Eastern countries in a retaliation against Israel.

    The worst thing that we as a society can do is underestimate the intelligence of an enemy. If we just assume that all Iranians are "towl head, cave dwellers," everyone is suprised when Iran retaliates against Israel with nuclear force. In which case the nuclear force would be justified in the eyes of many countries in the region.

    This would undoubtedly draw the United States into another long and drawn out conflict with an enemy that may have more local support through sympathy. If Iran has a nuclear weapon they would be practically begging Israel to strike an empty wearhouse or an actuall nuclear power research facility.

    This is unlikely that Iran does possess this capabilty but we cannot make stupid mistakes such as underestimating an enemy. A resolution through diplomacy has to be the solution to this situation and Israel has to remain on the sidelines. In the meantime as they no doubt already do, the governments in the P5 plus one need to know exactly what steps they will take in the event of the scenario I described.

    February 28, 2012 at 8:26 pm | Reply
    • jj

      And who are you?

      February 28, 2012 at 8:42 pm | Reply
      • Locke

        I'm a concerned American citizen. I don't mean for my response to sounds anything like a demand of anyone. I think it is prudent to see every angle of each situation regardless of how outlandish it seems. America hasn't become a world super power by underestimating her enemies.

        Contingency plans are never a bad idea especially when lives are at stake. There is no reason to underestimate the enemy to feel superior and then be completely shocked when it turns out that they are armed with sophisticated weaponry. This leads to careless mistakes, death, and a massive international PR hit.

        If you always assume the enemy to be better armed than you assume then you will be able to have a plan in place that can save lives and handle a situation more easily than being taken by surprise.

        February 28, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
  38. voice of America

    Image a terrorist cell..now imagine that cell with nuke capabilities if a mushroom cloud forms over new York or D.C. or maybe in your town will u ask for war then? After it's to late. No we shouldn't get in the middle of other people's fights but we can't just ignore them either ..to much is at stake

    February 28, 2012 at 8:09 pm | Reply
    • SN

      Fear psychosis is the word that is used for the technique that you employ. Kind of like the color coded Alerts that bush used to scare the hell out of the population of the country that is considered the only superpower remaining in the world today, a country that spends more on defence than the rest of the world combined but still is not able to satiate its appetite. I think you should read what Samuel Butler (one of the most decorated soldiers in American history) wrote after WW1–"War is a racket". It clearly states that war profits a few, demands sacrifices from many and leaves a large section of population misinformed about the actual motives.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:25 pm | Reply
  39. Dave

    Yeah they are another North Korea except their army is dismal compared to NK, they have ships that look like ski boats with rockets on them, subs that are worse than WWII, and they can't fight for s@$t. Other than that, they are the same.

    February 28, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Reply
  40. .

    To hell with Iran. Let them have their friggin' bomb. Just make them understand that if one of our cities goes up in a mushroom cloud, their whole world will follow suit. Because if there is one thing you can be sure of, somewhere in that crazy Mullacracy there are leaders who really do fear for their own lives.

    Because you don't ever hear about the Ayatollah's kids blowing themselves up for Allah. They want some other poor sucker's kid to do it.

    February 28, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Reply
    • Alao

      I agree i think we have enough to worry about. I think the reason that we don't want them to have it is because when you get a nuke diffrent rules appmy. You can't just invade under no pretext like we did in Iraq.

      February 28, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Reply
    • NO to the Bomb!!!

      I can't believe you'd even insinuate they could have a bomb. That has to be the most un-informed comment I've ever heard. No, they can't have it. If you understand what they stand for, how many terrorists groups they support, how much they think that everyone in the world is infidel to their religion, that they have nothing to lose by destroying the world, then you'd not make such a dumb statement. The nukes in the world now are considered a deterent. No intelligent leader would send out a nuke, knowing that if they did, there would be nukes coming back on them. That is basically why you don't see nukes used in war time. But, given to Iran, they couldn't care who got destroyed. They'd send out all they could, knowing that when the retaliation came, they'd be seeing Allah. So, what do they have to lose? That's the problem, they don't care and they don't have anything to lose.

      There is a large part of their society that are hard working, intelligent business people, who'd love nothing more than to see their theocracy fall apart. One day, the intelligent Iranians will rise up against the oppresive regime and be a free country again, like it was back in the days I was a kid, remembering they were a democracy at one time. Yeah, they had a Shah, but they still had 10 times more freedoms than they have today.

      February 28, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Reply
      • Don't need Bomb!!!

        FYI, that was thirty some yeas ago when intelligent Iranians kicked their dictator out of power and formed a government that works for them not take oders from Washington or London. Those who think Iran is after the N bomb, lack the intelligence that Iranians have. Iran says no nuke and they mean it. I read these comments, I see minds that are filed with corporate media propaganda against Iran. Our government has become slave to Israeli lobby. Our news media owned and controlled by pro Israelis. For them, our national security takes back seat to that of Israel. If Israel wants to preempt Iran, let them do it. We must not send our young men and women to harms way for their foolishness.

        All these concerns about N bomb that Iran does not have and will not have is really misguided. For a moment think why Israel is allowed to have Nuke and who violate IAEA regulations to give it to them?

        February 28, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
      • EatYouAlive

        "A government that works for them...:

        ROFL. What a warped view of the world you have. snirk.

        February 28, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
  41. jayman419

    Let them have nukes. Who cares? MAD was replaced with TAD (Their Assured Destruction) ages ago. Iran is already a leading power in the region. Let them cement their hold.

    What's more important is that we find a way to deal with them beyond the nuclear issue, on the many matters that truly affect world peace.

    February 28, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Reply
  42. John N. Seattle, WA

    The site in Qom isn't hard to attack, its difficult to BOMB. There is a difference. Send in the mechanized infantry and they will clean it out real good!

    February 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Reply
    • Mario

      Of course you want tax cuts on top of that?

      February 28, 2012 at 10:19 pm | Reply
  43. jon

    I just about lost it reading this headline written by yet another CNN doofus. Talk about stating the obvious

    February 28, 2012 at 7:05 pm | Reply
    • .

      Well, at least you're right about CNN.

      February 28, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Reply
  44. Nature_Just_Nature

    Now I can confirm that Americans are the idiots. Idiots who swallow what Israel-Firster Jews tell them.

    February 28, 2012 at 7:05 pm | Reply
    • Larry

      I'm frantically searching for my dislike button....

      February 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Reply
    • .

      We are idiots. We elected Obama.

      February 28, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Reply
    • jj

      The world except a few are against iran..so what stupidity are you talking about?

      February 28, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Reply
  45. Larry

    There is no comparison between the DPRK and Iran. One uses it's military muscle to blackmail the world into paying it to keep it's weapons to itself, the other, a fanatic and determined foe, which has no respect for human life, and which has promised to "wipe Israel off the map" many times, some quite visibly. The current theocratic regime of Iran simply doesn't care what it takes, it intends to destroy our closest ally in the region, and that ally is Israel. Israel works with the US and the developed (and undeveloped) nations in the world, providing them with solutions in almost every field. What's Iran done for us lately?

    February 28, 2012 at 6:58 pm | Reply
    • jayman419

      Well, Iran doesn't cost us billions in foreign and military aid, anyway. The old hatreds, learned as infants and passed on from generation to generation, are ridiculous.

      You're fighting over sand, people. Crawl out of the caves and look around.

      February 28, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Reply
      • NPost

        correction, fighting over oil.

        February 28, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
  46. Ron

    Look at all these half-wit idiots leaving comments without having ANY knowledge other than reading what the half-wits in the news feed them... oh so sad....

    February 28, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Reply
    • HateRon

      Ron, just shut the hell up you dumbass. you don't know anything.

      February 28, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Reply
    • Mark

      Ron, you are right. A lot of the people replying do not know how to actually look information up for themselves, and verify it. Simple example; you’re at a party and somebody says you have bad breath. You do not believe it. So, you ask 5 other people. They all say you DO have bad breath. Guess what? You have bad breath. Yeah, it’s a simplistic example, but please, people… FIND THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELF!!!

      February 28, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Reply
  47. The Enlightenedone

    http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/228014.html . I wonder why we don't see this on CNN. Literally people if the iranian government goes against what they are saying, then 300 Millions Shia muslims will stop believing in the Ayatollah and Iran will loose all support from its people and from the outside world.

    February 28, 2012 at 6:52 pm | Reply
    • RCDC

      The thing is your not looking at what they have.They have the uranium grade that fits for a weapon grade.

      February 28, 2012 at 6:57 pm | Reply
  48. RCDC

    Yes and no. They don't look the same but both of them wants a Nuke bomb.

    February 28, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Reply
  49. LV

    No. Iran is unique. They have declared exactly what their target is and why. Now, they are building the weapon to use for that purpose.

    While it is possible they just want leverage to get money, like Pakstan or NK, it would be foolish to believe that.

    February 28, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Reply
    • jayman419

      What happened the last time Israel fought a free-for-all war? Should we really be worried if Iran can wipe out Tel Aviv? Israel is a nation born to fight, indoctrinated from birth in an ideology of aggression. I'm sure they can work it out amicably.

      February 28, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Reply
  50. pvs53

    There is a big difference between North Korea and Iran......No one had the nerve to stop North Korea.....Israel has the nerve and will stop Irans nuclear program even if it means war. Israel will attack Iran sometime around May 7TH.

    February 28, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Reply
  51. St Xavier

    That part of the world has been fighting over who's GOD is the real GOD it's never going to stop. Let them wipe each other out an then maybe there will be piece.

    February 28, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Reply
    • total non sense

      Religion is a illness. Iran is governed byt the most savage religion in the knwo universe, IT MUST BE DESTROYED AT ALL COST. Iran must not be allowed to have nuke tech of any kind.

      whould you give match to mentally challanged kid in a garden shed full of propane tanks?

      February 28, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Reply
    • jayman419

      I could care less about the retard with the match when we've got a Sherman Zippo.

      February 28, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Reply
      • jayman419

        If the whole shed burns, the oil is still there.

        February 28, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
  52. SAVIOR

    I think the question was is Iran stalling for time just like north Korea did ..of course they are
    so the answer is yes Iran is like north Korea

    February 28, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Reply
  53. Robert

    You ever notice how no one in Iran seems to be able to find a razor? Everyone seems to walk around with a continuous 5 o'clock shadow. If you're going to grow a beard, then grow one. Get rid of this half-way stuff. It makes you look like a bum.

    February 28, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Reply
    • Blooper1

      All razors are actually in use for interrogation. That's why.

      February 28, 2012 at 5:50 pm | Reply
    • Well-Informed

      How many times have you been to Iran?? You obviously are 'clueless'. Why don't you and your brain dead buddy, Blooper1 go over to the kiddy section and spew your non-sense there. Of course they are shaven. I can tell you that because I was just there a couple years ago. And no, NO ONE harassed me. Don't believe the HYPE being SPUN by Corporate Media. It's all misinformation serving the Special Interest agenda. No one "reads" the news on CNN, FAUX, CBS, BBC and alike. Not if you want "FACTS" reported and not THEIR spin.

      February 28, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Reply
      • Well-Informed

        Oh yeah, sheeple do read this stuff! AND unfortunately these people are allowed to vote. *sigh*

        February 28, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
      • LV

        We just don't care anymore. Trying to distinguish between the supposedly good citizens of any other country and their nutcase government no longer makes any sense. Iran is an insane police state run by 12th century mullahs. Everyone who could get out did, so, what's left is what they made for themselves. They've sealed their own fate.

        February 28, 2012 at 6:27 pm |
      • EatYouAlive

        Sheeple, a sure sign of a tin foil head.

        February 28, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
  54. Yossarian

    The man on the far right is wearing a surgical mask, but no one else is. I wonder why.

    February 28, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Reply
    • Blooper1

      He's a Christian ans is not allowed to speak ..

      February 28, 2012 at 5:43 pm | Reply
      • Well-Informed

        No doubt you're a 5 year old

        February 28, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
    • Robert

      He had onions for lunch.

      February 28, 2012 at 5:50 pm | Reply
      • Well-Informed

        And no doubt you're two!

        February 28, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
    • Well-Informed

      He's probably covering his face in fear of the neanderthals that might want to assassinate him for his brains! Shameful world we live in.

      February 28, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Reply
      • Bob Font

        Well-Informed – thats "too", not "two". Great answers fallas about the mask, good stuff.

        February 28, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
      • Mark

        Neanderthals had larger brains than Homo Sapiens. I guess you did not have time to look that up, either.

        February 28, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
  55. Therealreason

    The Iranian thug-regime hates[pretends] to hate Israel because-

    Iran needs any friend it can get.
    Iran's failing revolution of 1979[Khomeini, shakedown 1979] is crippling the citizens in every way.

    The Iran mullahs scare iranians to DISTRACT from their failure in leadership.
    They make up phony allegations against Israel to garner support at home and in the region. The Arabs despise the 1979 theocracy. Iran gives [gave, haha!] money to Hamas , to pretend they give a.... About Sunni palestians . Iran won't even let their be one Sunni mosque in all of Iran! Iran despises any other type of Islam with the exception of theirs.
    Iran was using Hamas as a distraction if Iran had been attacked for it's nuclear bomb aspirations.
    Hamas has abandoned Iran recently to support their kinship in Syria.
    Iran's phony friendships around the world are all political theatre to trick the brilliant Doctors and Engineers of Iran. I have deep respect for the citizens of Iran.
    We will find a way to be friends[the Iran govt]
    one day. Our people are. A minority of Iran[the leadership] ruins all new friendships/opportunities from the West.
    Just like Assad, a minority with absolute rule of the majority.

    February 28, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Reply
  56. Burley Dude from a Proud Red State!

    No, Iran is NOT another North Korea. First of all, North Korea is north of South Korea, but Iran is not. Secondly, North Korean women have sideways vaginas, while Iranian women have regular diagonal ones. And, Korean food is much better than Persian food.

    February 28, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Reply
    • theres

      I was with you all the way until the last point....Persian food is so good it makes you go nuclear!!!

      February 28, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Reply
    • CelestialOne

      There is no way Iran can be another North Korea. Can the Iranian military marched like the North Korean ?

      February 28, 2012 at 10:12 pm | Reply
  57. Unknown

    Is Iran like North Korea, the answer is no. North Korea was created through war and colonization, modern Iran was never colonized and was created by a revolution. The clerics rule Iran, North Korea is ruled by the military. North Korea talks the talk but does not walk the walk, Iran on the other hand walks the walk.

    February 28, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Reply
    • Burley Dude from a Proud Red State!

      I respectfully disagree. Iran walks the walk sometimes when they are not talking the talk. The same is true for Japan.

      February 28, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Reply
  58. cpc65

    On the surface there may appear to be some parallels, but these are two very different types of nations with their own complex issues we have to negotiate our way through if we wan't to deal with them either diplomatically or militarily. In other words, there's all sorts of crazy in the world.

    February 28, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Reply
  59. JiminNM

    You have to treat Israel the same way you want to treat North Korea, Iran or any other nuclear Weapon State wanna be or forget it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Kennedy tried to get the Dimona site inspected. Kennedy knew the identity of our real enemy.

    February 28, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Reply
    • Mycology

      Its very simple sir,

      Israel / India / Pakistan: Never members of the NPT, under no obligation to let ANYONE into their country.

      North Korea / Iran: Members of the NPT, under an obligation to allow inspectors in and to NOT build nuclear weapons,

      Iran intentionally hid nuclear facilities.

      Why does one HIDE nuclear facilities?

      February 28, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Reply
      • Mark

        Wana grow mushrooms, do ya?

        February 28, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
      • Abbas

        So, the countries like that (incidentally, it is only the licensed one Israel, happened to occupier one and still expanding settlements more despite UN's resolution not very lately) get license to openly threaten an other country with military strikes... anyways, I always wonder, the country that couldn't handle Hizbullah, how can it handle their BIG brothers..peace. 2ndly who gave US–the self-employed Guardian of the world peace– the (moral) right to lecture any other nation about Nuclear horizon, who itself (and ONLY that arrogant establishment) used twice the very same WMD: (Oh I meant atomic bomb) just 67 years ago.

        February 28, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  60. John

    No it's a completely different beast.

    February 28, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Reply
  61. jpbbrody

    My opinion is that Iran is considerably more dangerous than North Korea.

    They are an apocalyptic theocracy; it's okay to press the button if it wipes out Allah's enemies and brings on the Caliphate of the 12th Imam.

    In America, we've never done well in understanding and dealing with religious devotion / extremism. We tend to discount it too much.

    February 28, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Reply
  62. Sam A.

    Wakakakakakakakaka, BOOM!!!!!

    I like Video Games. Lets play the Iran level again!!! YAY YAY YAY YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!

    Wakakakakakakakakakaka!

    February 28, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Reply
  63. Dhd

    you suck then

    February 28, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Reply
    • Burley Dude from a Proud Red State!

      Are you sure about that?

      February 28, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Reply
  64. Dhd

    Iranian regime was elected by its people and they follow their people's will to pursue safety by gaining nuke capability so that Israel won't attack them easily. Then we won't be able to change their nuke plan by changing the regime. We may need to send US tropps to kill all the nation of Iran to pursue American dream!

    And why on this earth all troubles come from Jews in that piece of land? It is a devil plan of the Brits, they promise Jews the land by letting them fight aginst Muslims. And then Jews take the opportunity to revenge Europeans for killing them for years during world war two and early.

    February 28, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Reply
    • joe

      you forgot to strap a bomb to your chest when you typed this comment. Don't forget to blow up women and children on your way out.

      February 28, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Reply
      • The Enlightenedone

        I I think I see your woman blowing him at the moment and she has does have something strapped on her chest.

        February 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
      • Dhd

        You have the potential to become a terrorist but don't. You Mom is waiting you home

        February 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • flyskybird

      The Iranian people are actually nice and like Americans. Its the government leaders that paint the walls with anti-Amerian themes. As seen on PBS Rick Steves Europe

      February 28, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Reply
      • Josh

        Yes, they truly love americans, and they don't mind giving their land and oil freely to them. How longe have you been out of Iran? more than 30 years, I guess.

        February 28, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
      • Mark

        I believe you. All people around the world are prisoners of their own government. A bright person from a think tank once told me that all governments are thugs; we just get to choose ours.

        February 28, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • sbp

      "WE won't be able to change their nuke plan by changing the regime" Ha, ha, good one. Yeah, you're an American. With Arab sentence structure and syntax.

      February 28, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Reply
    • Joe

      The only reason Israel has ever considered attacking Iran is to stop their nuclear program. What in the world are you talking about?????

      February 28, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Reply
    • JiminNM

      Read Revelation 2:9. Israel is not what they proclaim, not close. John F Kennedy knew it and confronted it.

      February 28, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Reply
    • Tabrizi

      Unfortunately , when non-Muslims see a Muslim, They do tend to wonder what type of bomb is under their jacket.
      Islamic extremists kill and the main stream news embellishes it as well.
      Syria will be a test when Sunni extremists have a larger say.

      February 28, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Reply
    • NO to the Bomb!!!

      You have got to be kidding me... The people of Iran did not have any say in the government. There government was changed by a Islamic insurgency that was started by the college aged youth, who wanted to overthrow the Shah. They took our embassy hostage for 444 days. Iran was supported by the United States prior to that. They received and flew our F-14 aircraft and patrolled their waters with our Navy ships. I know, they bought our Spruance class destroyers, but don't remember if they were actually delivered.

      The DPRK has one of the largest military's in the world, by volume of military personel. If North Korea went to war with Iran, they would win it hands down, and with only the influx of their foot soldiers. They would be overwhelmed like ants at a picnic.

      So, don't know where you come off about their government being elected by the people, oh.. I guess you don't remember all the crap they went through after their presidential elections, with all the protests. Even now, they are using force to keep protesters from taking to the streets before their parlimentary elections..

      February 28, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Reply
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