February 7th, 2012
03:49 PM ET

Threat of proxy war times two in Syria

By Ivan Watson reporting from Istanbul, Turkey

The bloody internal struggle over the future of Syria is increasingly taking on a wider, regional dimension that could be seen as a proxy war times two.

At one level, it is a showdown of the old Cold War dimension, pitting the United States and other Western countries against Russia and China. But there is a second proxy battle going on, as throughout the Middle East battle-lines are being drawn between governments that support and those that oppose the al-Assad, regime based mostly on allegiance to Shiite and Sunni heritage.

Turkey - Syria's most powerful neighbor - accuses Syrian President Bashar al-Assad of massacring his own citizens. The Turkish prime minister threatened new pressure tactics in an address to Parliament.

"We will start a new initiative at this point with those countries that will be on the side of the Syrian people, and not with the Syrian regime," Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan told his Parliament.Moscow is stepping up support for embattled al-Assad, even as Gulf states and Western governments, led by the United States, have either closed their embassies or temporarily recalled their ambassadors from Damascus.

"The Syria matter cannot be sacrificed to rivalries between powers. (The) Syria matter cannot be sacrificed to power balances, polarized struggles similar to the Cold War. Those who struggle for political power via Syria should know that the blood shed there spills on them, too," Erdogan warned on Tuesday.

"This is where the Arab Spring meets the Sunni-Shia struggle meets the Cold War," said Andrew Tabler, a Syria expert at the Washington Institute of Near East Policy and author of the book "In the Lion's Den."

"The tinder is very dry," Tabler said. "In the short term we're looking at a sharp increase of bloodshed in Syria. I do believe in proxy wars and I think this is one of them."

"The increasing divide we're seeing in the Middle East is a sectarian one," said Karim Sadjapour, an analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Turkey is in the anti-al-Assad camp, along with other majority Sunni Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other wealthy Gulf Arab states.

Assad's allies include the Shia-led government in Iraq, the Lebanese Shiite movement Hezbollah, and of course Iran.

"The collapse of the Syrian regime would be a huge blow to the Iranian regime because Syria has been its only consistent ally since the 1979 revolution, and Syria allows Iran to continue to offer support to Hezbollah," Sadjapour said. "Whereas Iraq and Lebanon are predominantly Shiite Arabs, in Syria you have a Sunni majority which is not going to be sympathetic to Iran, so the demographics of the situation in Syria are not in Iran's interest. And whatever likely succeeds the Assad regime in Syria is not going to be well oriented towards Tehran."

While Iran is believed to be giving Damascus financial and military support, Turkey has been hosting Syrian opposition groups and activists, like former Syrian Ambassador Bassem Imadi.

"The situation in Syria has to be solved and quickly. If not, the whole problem will spill over to Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan and perhaps Turkey," said Imadi, who is a member of the opposition Syrian National Council's international relations committee.

But while countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey agree that Assad must go, "on (a) more micro level, in terms of how specifically to do that and whether to arm the Syrian opposition, I don't think there's a consensus," Sadjadpour said.

In the midst of this growing geopolitical struggle, Damascus appears to have lost the support of one key Middle Eastern player - the Palestinian movement Hamas. Its leader Khaled Mashal recently abandoned his long-time home in Damascus - a signal, many analysts say, of the Syrian government's growing domestic and international isolation.

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  1. Martin Timothy

    The Koran condemns "schismatics" in no uncertain terms, who are the ones going on with "Sunni" this or "Shia" that .. Real Moslems cast truth at falsehood, according to the following stricture in the Koran..

    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    Cast truth against falsehood
    The Koran: Chapter 21, verse 18

    And despise schismatics, and false Moslems who fail to "cast truth" about equally .. 60,000 or so Jews failed to turn up for work at the WTC, 11 September 2001, whence allegedly hijacked aircraft, were flown into the World Trade Center in New York.

    In an attack blamed on Arabs, which became the impetus for the current wars against all and sundry, in the name of the War on Terror .. Mossad agents filming the drama amid “evident Jewbilation,” and Put Options on airline stocks, that made hundreds of millions traced to Mossad HQ in Yisrael, says Jews did it.

    http://s60.radikalsp@m/i169/1003/f7/5dbc426c4403.gif .. Click the link for video of a Cruise Missile slamming into the Pentagon, in an attack blamed on a crazy Arab in a Boeing 757, http://s014.radikalsp@m/i329/1102/51/ee7df9707ac5.gif .. This link shows a guided missile slam into the WTC on 911

    I similarly castigate all Persian, Iranian, Middle Eastern, Indonesian, and the Atalanta and Chicago False Moslem congregations in the United States, as unbelievers of the worst kind, for similarly failing to "cast truth," in a matter of such vital importance as illegal war!

    Agriculture, writing, and the domestication of animals, all originated in the Tigris Euphrates region called Iraq, the tribes that have been located there since the time of Adam, are the Sunni.

    The Shia are every one else, the Sunni are often don’t do the manual chores, so they have been bringing in workers from other places for centuries, these workers do not usually attend Sunni mosques, which are most often built and maintained by a single extended family.

    They usually attend to their religious affairs, in Mosques that are located in working class areas of the city, that have become known as Shia Mosques.

    At no time has war or conflict between the two sectors of society, been permitted, either under secular law, or within the strictures of Islam, and all parties are aware, that murder is met with speedy and deadly retaliation, according to the instruction in the Koran.

    February 22, 2012 at 3:30 am | Reply
  2. bfd007

    Where was the rest of the world when the United States Government murdered and burned to death 80 people of which 17 were children in Waco TX all because the government said they were Evil, as well as ALL the media demonized those poor people. To justify burning them to death and murdering them just to get the people to support the government, now look how many rights you have lost due to the EVIL American Government Hitler was nothing compared to the genocide of the American Government against the Indians who were killed by the millions.

    February 8, 2012 at 9:01 am | Reply
    • patriot461412

      It never ceases to amaze me when low IQ's try to tie an irrelevent local occurance to an international event.

      February 8, 2012 at 9:22 am | Reply
    • setnommarih

      bfd007-Those people were evil, didn't they profess to believe in god? Just that alone should get you the death penalty since no people in the world have done as much killing and causing trouble than those who profess to believe in god. Next!

      February 8, 2012 at 9:44 am | Reply
  3. DAGGAR

    What i don't understand is how come we can't all get along, share in this beautiful worlds resources and live happy lives, NO, instead we hire people that only want to fight with one another.

    February 8, 2012 at 8:59 am | Reply
  4. SKaban

    The Syrian Baathist party was created by and modeled after the Nazi party, as was Iraq's. On a larger scale we are still witnessing the aftereffects of WWI and II.
    Keep in mind that the Russian people are now protesting against Putin and there are serious challenges for the Communist party in China. Someday soon we may see these two countries much farther along towards real freedom.

    February 8, 2012 at 8:38 am | Reply
    • Michael

      Finally a voice of reason........muslim extremists and the Nazi party have been in bed forever with 1 common goal.......to eliminate the Jews. This is kindergarden math.

      February 8, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
    • Pennmom

      Nazis party used fear of communism to slaughter millions. Baathists using fear of Muslim extremists to get its other citizens to look the other way?

      February 8, 2012 at 9:06 am | Reply
    • setnommarih

      Yea, like the freedom we currently have in OBAMALAND. What a joke, Hitler may have had something there after all.

      February 8, 2012 at 9:56 am | Reply
      • Pennmom

        People like you really prove yuri's point.

        February 8, 2012 at 10:01 am |
  5. Cassandra Chu

    ... I'm just waiting to see when China will enter the fray and stomp on everybody...

    February 8, 2012 at 8:31 am | Reply
    • Cassandra Chu

      ... The Chinese aren't religious freaks... and laugh at the Muslims, Christians and Jews... who get so entangled in religious identity mythology

      February 8, 2012 at 8:31 am | Reply
      • Michael

        How is it 2% of any group gets this much pub....................hmmmm hate would be my first guess. Here's an idea.....introduce condoms to the public. You'll find them well hidden away in the Communist Closet.

        February 8, 2012 at 8:43 am |
      • setnommarih

        Thank you, that's what I do to.

        February 8, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • patriot461412

      Modern China implodes every 100 years or so and has already began. In a few years many countries invaded and conqured by communist China will break away after bloody revolution and China will revert back to its rice paddy way of life. :o)

      February 8, 2012 at 9:28 am | Reply
  6. Michael

    Imagine a world where Israel is geographically where Mexico is and vise verse.......peace in N. America everywhere! And who the hell cares about the rest!

    February 8, 2012 at 8:09 am | Reply
    • yuri pelhem

      great point. Mexican drug culture would help treat the pathology of there

      February 8, 2012 at 8:17 am | Reply
    • osi

      For sure Middle East would have been at peace and there wouldnt have been mexican drug cartels as it is not consumed in the middle east.

      February 8, 2012 at 11:21 am | Reply
    • osi

      For sure Middle East would have been at peace and there wouldnt have been mexican drug cartels as it is not consumed in the middle east. probably israel would annoy u guys

      February 8, 2012 at 11:22 am | Reply
      • Pennmom

        Another low iq........

        February 8, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
  7. disinfo

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NB04Ak01.html

    quick preview of this link talking about the arab league report:

    The report is adamant. There was no organized, lethal repression by the Syrian government against peaceful protesters. Instead, the report points to shady armed gangs as responsible for hundreds of deaths among Syrian civilians, and over one thousand among the Syrian army, using lethal tactics such as bombing of civilian buses, bombing of trains carrying diesel oil, bombing of police buses and bombing of bridges and pipelines.
    and here is the report: http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/Report_of_Arab_League_Observer_Mission.pdf

    February 8, 2012 at 7:19 am | Reply
    • Letsbereal

      This all boils down to one thing, Religion. The people that I met over there were everyday citizens just like the rest of the world has. They just wanted to go to school, do business and take care of their families and live a peaceful happy life. Most of the human species is good in nature, the truely good people of the world need to stand up to tyranny. We all know whats going on over there is wrong, why is it so hard to stand up to these criminals. 90% of the world wants peace, I just cant understand where are all the good people of this planet, and why cant we all band together.

      February 8, 2012 at 7:48 am | Reply
      • yuri pelhem

        Sorry to say but humanity is basically evil. Look at all the genocides in past 100 years where the world looked away. Sudan the latest. People just don't care if you ignore the lipservice. The Islamic Arab and Iranian world ( and include Pakistan) is irretrievably violent and should be allowed to self destruct. This time Europe and US SHOULD turn their backs.

        February 8, 2012 at 8:12 am |
  8. pennmom

    So I met a Syrian young lady yesterday and I told her how upset I was at the situation in Syria. She, obviously a Syrian Christian by the way she was talking told me how great Assad is and he is so mild, raised in Germany, a doctor more focused on Eye centers than the military. She then told me which surprised me that the opposition are Muslim extremists who want to rule Syria via strict Sharia law. This is the first I heard of this. I look at these people in the news and they sure don't look that way to me. I'm trying to find articles on who the opposition is and I haven't found one yet. Granted, I have little time to do so.

    February 8, 2012 at 6:35 am | Reply
    • pennmom

      Does anyone know if this is completely a lie to get the secular Syrian to ignore this brutality out of fear for their countries future?

      February 8, 2012 at 6:37 am | Reply
      • pennmom

        country's

        February 8, 2012 at 6:38 am |
  9. syirk

    I don't know why we never hear this on American news, but Russia has military interests in Syria. They have a Naval base, at least, and any attack or military action on Syria has to consider the reaction of the Russian Military. It's not a big base, but that has nothing to do with what their reaction might be. Not to mention all the other alliances with countries like Iran that Syria has. None of these things existed in Libya or Iraq. Syria is unique and moreso than other problem areas has the potential to erupt into a huge scale war.

    February 8, 2012 at 5:13 am | Reply
    • yuri pelhem

      Iraq supports Assad and we made Iraq possible. At great cost. What a foolish country we are!

      February 8, 2012 at 8:14 am | Reply
  10. ma & pa

    Those countries: Bunch of mean big guys, doing their bullying routines, careing nothing about the lives of the innocent peoples except to use them as pawns in the bullying and greed games. Villians blaming their victims for their victims deaths. The victims have no defense from the Syrian regimes bombs, snipers and brutalizers of even little children who have been "detained". Did any of you see the picture of the child in Homs, that city known for it's peaceful diversity? The sign read "IF you do not help us we will be killed". The look on that childs face is the look of every mother's hurting frightened child everywhere,of any age, telling us that the future of truth, the family, peace and freedom is in the balance.

    February 8, 2012 at 1:31 am | Reply
  11. Jay

    I feel sorry for the US. Everybody hates you guys now if you intervene, and everyone hates you guys later if you don't.

    Assad needs to go. If this can be accomplished by a group of Syria's neighbors, who share much more common ground with the people there, all the better. Is there a fair and responsible coalition that would set up a fair democracy present there? Probably not.

    It isn't America's responsibility to fix this problem. If the people of Syria want intervention, and ask for the US' help, everyone should remember how they came to be there. Because surely as soon as you go there, the same people criticizing you for doing noting will label your humanitarian mission an imperialist pig dog intrusion on their holy land.

    Clearly the solution is a UN Peacekeeping mission. The US, Canada, Australia, NZ and most of Europe would not hesitate to help under the UN banner. It's too bad Putin is too scared of setting a precedent of ousting dictators.

    What we need to do is go in and enforce a ceasefire. I'd like to see Assad's forces try and occupy a hospital being guarded by heavily armed western military professionals in UN garb, with the world watching.

    February 8, 2012 at 1:05 am | Reply
    • Johnny

      Don't feel sorry for us. I'm from California and I love it. I sleep all I want and I can do what I want. I make decent money and I have a cute girlfriend. You should feel sorry for all the starving children in this world.

      February 8, 2012 at 1:23 am | Reply
    • setnommarih

      Jay-Not a good idea. One, we do not know what is actually going on. Remember the 'arab spring', now we have americans being tried in Egypt, bans of militia running around Libya. Tunisia is not the toney vacation spot it was. DO NOT SEEK THE TREASURE! DO NOT SEEK THE TREASURE!... WE THOUGHT YOU WAS A TOAD>>

      February 8, 2012 at 10:05 am | Reply
  12. America

    Not our problem. You want to kill each other? Knock yourselves out. We'll sell popcorn.

    February 8, 2012 at 12:58 am | Reply
  13. Mike

    Actually Turkey should feel some responsibility for the mess in the middle east – they consider themselves the heirs to the Ottoman Empire, which once ruled much of middle east, including present day Syria. Syria itself is product of the dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire after they were defeated by the Allies in WW1.

    February 8, 2012 at 12:01 am | Reply
    • david

      Middle East had its most peaceful times during Ottoman rule. It is England who left a mess there, and for good reason: to come back after half a decade to get the oil.

      February 8, 2012 at 12:10 am | Reply
      • Jack Choi

        Agreed.

        February 8, 2012 at 12:26 am |
    • Jay

      How does the fact that Syria and Turkey used to be part of the same "state" have any bearing at all on the fact that modern day Syria's leader is murdering his own people? How does Turkey play any kind of roll at all in that? Please enlighten me.

      February 8, 2012 at 1:11 am | Reply
      • setnommarih

        Frankly, I'm beginning to like Bashur. His name even says what he is doing, bashing the nice people by using the bad people. What a joke, let it go, let them do it this time. Kill themselves until they can't kill no more. What do you say ... agreed?

        February 8, 2012 at 10:09 am |
      • rodwick

        Jay you need to refresh your studies of WWI and the British conquest of the Ottman Empire. Then pay paticular attention to how and why the middle east has its current borders and who determined those borders. Next study the ethnic groups that populate the middle east and you will understand the whole problem at hand. It will be a tough thing for you to grap if your a Western person. Just consider the current borders as invisable lines between families and relatives. Think tribal, clanish and you will start to get it. Toss in a little religon to motivate those capable to taking action and there you go. Welcome to Transjordan, Syria, Lebanon, etc etc.

        February 8, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
  14. rodwick

    So the cats out of the bag. We all know Syria is a proxy but for who? Take a close look at whos on the ground. Iran is also a proxy for the same nation of fine chess masters. I almost thought the cold war was over and a new one begining.

    February 7, 2012 at 11:46 pm | Reply
  15. Wynter

    This has spun out of control so quickly and has too many moving parts for it to be a simple matter for our military to have any positive impact. When you have the entire Middle East taking up strong positions of both sides and Russia and China not in agreement with the U.N. then you have the scene for an epic disaster movie.
    I foresee it becoming worse as the weeks pass. The region's history is paved with these local battles that never end. I hope the U.S. doesn't become directly involved as it would be much worse than anything we have done in the past ten years.

    February 7, 2012 at 11:20 pm | Reply
  16. david

    USE YOUR ISRAEL FOR THIS BS. LEAVE TURKIYE ALONE!!!

    February 7, 2012 at 11:17 pm | Reply
    • LR

      Huh?
      My God! This is so bad, that nobody has had time to blame Israel for this! Holy cow!

      February 8, 2012 at 5:34 am | Reply
  17. david

    Turkish people do not take sides in this civil war. Erdogan, fuck off! Siktir git! We don't need a president of a monkey serving Imperialists!

    February 7, 2012 at 11:16 pm | Reply
    • gary

      sounds like he is siding with the people or syria? how is that imperialist?

      February 7, 2012 at 11:55 pm | Reply
    • Tom

      Troll – sounds Russian to me.

      February 8, 2012 at 12:52 am | Reply
  18. david

    GET TURKEY OUT OF THIS CONSPIRACY GAME! WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS CRAP!!!

    February 7, 2012 at 11:14 pm | Reply
    • Chris, Austin

      Yes, they do. Turkey totally wants in on this. They're becoming big players in the big game. They're all over this.

      And they can't be attacked, either – they're NATO. Article 5.

      Turkey is a rising power, and they will be flexing their muscles more and more in the months and years to come.

      Sunni Islam is joining the western alliance. GCC in NATO? Don't bet against it.

      February 8, 2012 at 1:06 am | Reply
    • setnommarih

      The only turkey I know was in my oven a few months ago, that's about how much I know (care) about it

      February 8, 2012 at 10:35 am | Reply
  19. Avi Shlomo

    I would regard the sympathy expressed by Western world over the plight of the Syrian people to be sincere if any of those westrener ever dared to express sympathy over the plight of the Palestinian people; if any of them ever dared to write a word of criticisms of Israeli war crimes.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:14 pm | Reply
    • Edwin

      You seem to have a pretty big chip on your shoulder... lots of Westerners are sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians, and lots of Westerners are upset by Israel's policies and actions. But it sounds like you dismiss them, expecting something more.

      February 7, 2012 at 11:24 pm | Reply
    • Tom

      Right. And a soon as the Palestinians foresake terrorism perhaps we can actually mount some serious discussions about peace. I don't recall Israel starting this and I do recall them ceasing hostilities from time to time to allow a cool-off even when they continue to be bombarded by rockets and and other acts of terrorism.

      February 8, 2012 at 12:58 am | Reply
      • Margaret

        No matter what happens in Syria the next thing we'll see is them standing in the streets demanding "death to Israel".

        February 8, 2012 at 6:30 am |
  20. Hiruu

    I just want peace for about 3 more months, than they can start killing up each other!

    February 7, 2012 at 10:14 pm | Reply
  21. Brian

    "Turkey – Syria's most powerful neighbor" – I guess you forgot about Israel? Still exists, whether you like it or not, and by no means is Turkey more powerful lol.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Reply
  22. Noah

    U.S. intervenes in Syria, Israel attacks Iran, hello WW3! Mayans got it right!

    February 7, 2012 at 9:43 pm | Reply
    • Truth Hurts

      So the Mayans predicted that the US would intervene in Syria? Their knowledge of world geography including nations that didn't exist is amazing. So if they could see so far into the future, how come they couldn't save their own hides?

      February 7, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Reply
      • rodwick

        There are plenty of Mayans around they haven't gone anywhere. We just refer to them as Mexican, Cuban, Panamanian, etc, etc. After the accumulation of such vast knowledge and realizing they held the answers to all their questions in their own hands they came to the conclusion any wise man would make. Might as well move onto the mountain and find a fat woman to stay warm with until I or the sun burns out of the sky. Oh and drink tequila like water.

        February 7, 2012 at 11:58 pm |
    • Joe

      Regardless of the mayans, i believe that a WWIII can be sparked from this very easily. What could happen is I Israel will attack Iran, naturally, the US will join, forcing Iran to get another country on their side, forces us to get another one, maybe UN, and then so on. I agree with the fact that a WWIII could easily be sparked and I wouldnt be Surprised if it did.

      February 7, 2012 at 11:24 pm | Reply
      • JOH

        It could. This would be very bad. China and North Korea will attack South Korea and attempt to cross towards Japan if they somehow succeed in taking S Korea... although very unlikely as S Korea are extremely potent and they have the largest US military presence there out of any base.

        Syria will probably end up being a proxy war of neighboring nations helping the opposition faction. Syria would receive backing from Russia IF Russia still deems it inappropriate to replace Assad. If not, it'll just be a battlefield between two major powerhouse factions.

        Israel might launch an attack on Iran, which if Israel does it will start WWIII no matter what. China and Russia already warned and threatened those pressuring Iran that an attack on Iran soil will result to WWIII. There will be key parts in Africa that will see plenty bloodshed as well but there will be 3 major frontiers of this WWIII. Middle-Eastern theater of war, which will be brutal and the threat of nuclear warfare will be present the entire time. There will be A LOT of civilian casualties but the Middle-Eastern battle won't be as tough and difficult as the European and Asian theater of WWIII. European borders will get bombarded and overwhelmed by Russian troops. I'm not sure if any nation in Europe can stand up to Russia even if all European countries cooperate, which I doubt as there will be some European nations that will take Russia's side. Greece might be among them.

        I suspect the Asian theater of war will be the most brutal. It will be constant artillery barrages and waves of suicide squads. China has a scary military... and if they decide to attack the US with economic tactics, every civilian in the USA will feel the heavy burden. North Korean and Chinese military will attack in waves if they find a way across the 2 mile minefield/electric fences that separates North and South Korea. The only way NATO and S Korea will effectively attack is through naval landing or paratroopers due to the minefield velocity of just infantry. This would mean a war of numbers where even strategic small units of platoons won't do much. It will be just like Vietnam or WWII deploying massive numbers of infantry against each other. There will be guerila warfare. There will be North and South Koreans killing every "collaborators" and civilians of the opposing sides. Tension continues to rise. Either side, when backed to a corner, could easily fire their nuclear missiles to begin the end of the world via nuclear warfare.

        February 8, 2012 at 1:25 am |
    • setnommarih

      Hey NOAH! THIS IS GOD SPEAKING. I THINKETH YOU STIFF NECKED PEOPLE HAVE JUST TALKED THYSELVES INTO THIS STUPID IDEA. BUT I DO LIKE THE MAYAN THING, I THOUGHT THAT WOULD FRIGHTEN A FEW NON-BELIEVERS> BEHOLD, THERE WILL BE NO EARTH ENDING DAY IN DECEMBER. GOD HAS SPOKEN>

      February 8, 2012 at 10:40 am | Reply
  23. tony

    This almost as bad as Israel mass bombing the civilians in Gaza and Lebanon, . . . with loud US Support.

    February 7, 2012 at 9:33 pm | Reply
    • TDiddy

      Well as long as they are killing muslims....all is well!

      February 7, 2012 at 9:41 pm | Reply
      • Avi Shlomo

        you are sick and below humanity

        February 7, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • Last of the Jedi

      Oh I see when your muslims thugs kill civilians its ok, but if Israel defends its self then they are thugs.
      Tired of you jackwagons putting USA and her Allies like Israel down.Its time to take the leash off Israel and take care of all these thugs.Your either with America or your against her.We got your back Israel.

      February 7, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Reply
    • Hockeyn109

      Palestinians killing Israeli school children. Firing rockets into Israeli towns killing civilians. Yes, there are two sides to everything.

      February 7, 2012 at 10:50 pm | Reply
      • Yaz

        If bashar al assads media ties were as powerful as Israeli's we would be talking about the armed terrorists in Syria killing the children instead of civilians being slaughtered as the world watches.. what a shame

        February 8, 2012 at 1:57 am |
  24. EatYouAlive

    Are the russian people really so blind to put up with this nonsense?

    February 7, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Reply
    • Last of the Jedi

      Yep evil exists because good people do nothing

      February 7, 2012 at 10:30 pm | Reply
  25. EatYouAlive

    Even the rats (hamas) are leaving the sinking ship.

    February 7, 2012 at 9:24 pm | Reply
  26. KC Yankee

    Time to move on this one. He's got to go.

    February 7, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Reply
    • Avi Shlomo

      why not join the army. I am not going to have my kids fie for a chicken like you.

      February 7, 2012 at 10:08 pm | Reply
  27. babba louie

    dont assassinate Assad, kidnap him and turn him over to the freedom fighters.

    Russia and China are back to their old Cold War tricks. Its time we tell Rusiia and China, especially China to go to hell.

    February 7, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Reply
    • Avi Shlomo

      I have not Seen China attacking any country for so long

      February 7, 2012 at 10:09 pm | Reply
      • mms

        China has never fought an aggressive war in its entire history. So it -never- has attacked anybody =)

        February 7, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
      • Last of the Jedi

        Quit staring at the sun with your binoculars.Then you might realize whats going on.

        February 7, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
      • James

        Who do you think enabled the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese??? China. Elves didn't make those MiGs we were shooting down....

        February 7, 2012 at 10:44 pm |
      • Hockeyn109

        They don't need to. They hand out money for natural resources from third world countries and not giving any thought to human right violations. Last time they invaded anything was helping the North Koreans attack South Korea.

        February 7, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
      • Tom

        How long is 'so long'? Have you forgotten their war with Vietnam? How about conquering Tibet? What about border skirmishes with India? Oh, and have we forgotten their recent proxy war provovations on South Korea? Maybe you missed the repression of their own people? China clamps down on the UN resolution because they don't want their own peiople to get any ideas!!

        China is fighting a winning war even today – an economic battle with the west that, interestingly, is financed by us through the purchse of their cheap goods. They are winning!

        February 8, 2012 at 1:08 am |
      • Michael

        Of course not what are you like 150 years old....gimme a break dude.

        February 8, 2012 at 8:22 am |
    • Last of the Jedi

      Amen! For the Republic!!

      February 7, 2012 at 10:31 pm | Reply
  28. john blenkiron

    RussiaToday TV has broadcast remarks from a journalist named Tarpley who is claiming that the snipers in Homs are agents of the CIA, Mossad, MI5 and France who are shooting indiscriminately in order to destabilize Assad and that the local population is not in opposition to Assad. We know where this is going.

    February 7, 2012 at 9:10 pm | Reply
    • EatYouAlive

      I am sure he has evidence. not.

      February 7, 2012 at 9:26 pm | Reply
    • Last of the Jedi

      Yep The Russian bear stirs again.Time to execute order 66

      February 7, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Reply
  29. tcaudilllg

    Send the CIA in to assassinate Assad. He's a butcher who thrives on dead people. He sees the threat of violence as the way to get what he wants.

    February 7, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Reply
  30. Stay away

    Lets let Turkey and Saudi Arabia take care of this one.
    NO USA INVOLVEMENT!

    February 7, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Reply
    • Avi Shlomo

      as if turkey does not have its own Kurds that masscare with impunity then Saudi Arabi wow like the fox guarding the hens.

      February 7, 2012 at 10:10 pm | Reply
    • david

      You started it you finish it. Why do we clean up your mess??!

      February 7, 2012 at 11:19 pm | Reply

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