February 4th, 2012
03:09 PM ET

U.S. and Israel: Trying to gauge each other on Iran

By Adam Levine, Pam Benson and Suzanne Kelly

As questions swirl about whether Israel may preemptively bomb Iranin an effort to slow its nuclear program, a senior congressional official said Friday the the head of intelligence met with American officials to get a better sense of how the U.S.would respond.

The head of Israel's intelligence agency was just in Washington for meetings with intelligence officials and some members of Congress, according to Sen. Diane Feinstein, D-CA, and the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper who mentioned the meetings during a hearing this past week.

The congressional source who spoke to CNN said when the head of the Mossad visited Washington this week, it was to hear what steps the United States might take against Iran, and to gauge what the United Stateswould do if Israel were to strike Iran on its own.

The U.S. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta believes Israel could strike Iranas early as this spring, CNN reported on Thursday, citing a defense official familiar with the defense secretary's thinking.

Both the congressional or defense official declined to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the information.

Asked about that belief by reporters covering a NATO meeting in Brussels that Panetta was attending this past week, the secretary would neither confirm nor deny the report.

Panetta did say that the U.S. administration has expressed its concerns to Israel, although he did not elaborate.

One of those concerns could be what Iran's response might be were Israel to strike.

Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates told CNN's John King on Thursday that Israelis "going to make its own decisions based on its history." Gates said Israeli and American officials are at odds about what the response would be if Israel did launch a military strike.

"I think there is disagreement in terms of what we think the Iranians would do as a result of an attack, and for our part, I think most American senior officials believe that the Iranians will, in fact, retaliate - and not just narrowly, but potentially across the entire region," Gates said in the exclusive interview that aired on John King, USA.

The senior congressional official said he believes Israeli officials would not alert their Americans counterparts prior to any strike onIran.

His opinion echoed a concern of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Martin Dempsey, who made similar remarks last December in an interview with CNN's Barbara Starr.

"We are trying to establish some confidence on the part of the Israelis that we recognize their concerns and are collaborating with them on addressing them," Dempsey said.

U.S.and Israeli government officials have been talking. In January, Dempsey travelled to Tel Aviv to try and persuadeIsraelto give more time for the sanctions onIranto have their intended effect. The Israelis and Americans are working together, insisted the Director of National Intelligence. "We are doing a lot with the Israelis, working together with them," James Clapper told a Senate hearing this week.

CIA Director David Petraeus said speaks monthly with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak.

 

soundoff (114 Responses)
  1. Lujack Skylark

    The final conflict with Iran/Persia is mentioned in the chapters of Ezekiel 38 & Ezekiel 39. The Iranians will eventually attack Israel and their forces along with their allies will be destroyed.

    July 31, 2012 at 4:51 am | Reply
    • James

      Why do people constantly refer to a book that was written by man formulated on a political will of a french monarch and conquerer charlemaigne as some future telling. I beleive any context if tried could find some bearing in today. What puzzles me most is few mention how Israel was recreated. I am curious if states the leader of germany in the WWII was the real creator by his HAAVARA deal. Does it mention a anything about the UN and forcing Palistinians to move. Why do you think Iran will invade Israel when it has no history as an agressor. The Iran Iraq war was the dealings of the US. You cant get much lower than the Iran Contra deal.

      July 31, 2012 at 7:18 am | Reply
  2. tali

    amazing fools on this board

    March 6, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Reply
  3. Rex

    Damascus will become a ruinous heap. (Isaiah 17:1) This is what becomes of Iran's ally.

    February 8, 2012 at 10:38 am | Reply
  4. mipolitic

    wow , obama gang head for the hills in sryia to storm the door back to the usa as putin orders get the HELL OUT NOW
    than we have questions like israel and usa trying to gauge where each other is on iran , and just yesterday befor the game obama says israel and usa are in lockstep together facing iran, wow someone is full of crap and it is becoming very clear who it is

    February 6, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Reply
  5. Indrid Cold

    Things we and Isreal should be thinking about prior to any attack on Iran.

    1. Having a nuclear weapon does not necessarily mean it's going to be used. Look at India and Pakistan. They hate each other as much or more than the Jews and Arabs despise each other. Have they fired their nukes? No. It's the old reliable concept of mutually assured destruction (MAD). Iran just wants a nuclear arsenal because it is a time-tested instrument that keeps Isreal (and the US BY PROXY) from giving Iran a political enima (popularly known as a "regime change.") 

    2. IF Israel mounts an attack on Iran, the Iranians can and will fire some or all of their 2000 widely dispersed MRBM's (medium range ballistic missiles). These missiles are capable of accurately (thanks to recent guidence system upgrades) delivering a 1400 pound high explosive warhead 1000 miles. They are currently on a hair trigger alert, and targeted against every major oil production facility in the Middle East. In the event they are launched, the target nations would have no more than 5 minutes warning. Even the hastily constructed antiballistic weapon system in Turkey would be overwhelmed by so many missiles fired at once. The aftermath would be the complete shutdown of middle east oil production (except, ironically Iran's). It would take many months ( and quite possibly one to two YEARS) to bring those facilities back on line. In the meantime, the nations of the world would have $300 a barrel oil to deal with.  Do we really relish the thought of $10/gal gasoline? How about transportation inflation of 30% a month? How many millions of those painstakingly created new jobs in the US would be eliminated as a result?

    3. As if the events I've outlined above aren't bad enough, many of the nations of the world would likely start to become more agressive toward each other as well as US interests. North Korea, for example, would cease receiving desperately needed fuel deliveries from China. After all, the Chinese leadership would have their hands full as hundreds of factories shut down due to the inevitable spike in the global price of oil. Millions of their people would take to the streets in protest. We could easily expect the North Korean government to see invasion of the South as it's only alternative to starvation (and this time, the Chinese leadership would be too preoccupied to exert their usual influance to the contrary). Just imagine waking up to headlines of "War in Iran/ Saudi Oil Fields Destroyed!". You would'nt finish your morning coffee before gas stations everywhere would be marking up their prices to $6.00/gal. By lunch time prices would be $8.00. A week later, all petrolium fuels would come under "National Security" control. Even if you are allowed to BUY gas, your use of an automobile would be strictly controlled. No vehicle with an empty passenger seat would be permitted on the road (under threat of vehicle impoundment). Horses and bicycles would be worth their weight in gold, but transportation related professions would be under a strategic moratorium as the nation grappled with new logistics for food transport and such. By the second week, the Dow has lost 70% of its value. Mind you, this is just for openers. What follows is the SCARY stuff.

    In China, the loss of 20% of world oil is having a far more dramatic effect. Factory production, along with tens of millions of jobs has come to an abrupt halt. Riots quickly spread to every city and the Chinese government is barely able to contain them with its massive army. Because the war has thus far left over 2/3 of Iranian oil production intact, the military commanders make a strategic decision to take control of them. Half of the Chinese military is deployed with what fuel is still in reserve. A million Chinese solders, together with the forward elements of their air force and navy begin a relentless advance toward the Persian Gulf. Simultaneously, president Obama receives a communication from the Chinese premier that this military move is a matter of China's national security. He warns against any opposition by US forces under threat of the most dire consequences.

    As you can see, our ridiculous attempt to prevent Iranian nuclear weapons development has inadvertently brought us to the brink of world war. It's these unforeseen escallations that cause seemingly predictable events to spiral out of control. And for what? So that Isreal can intimidate the middle east with ITS nuclear weapons? Ask yourself if you are ready to see the US fight world war III over that. Do we want to trade Chicago for Tele Viv?

    The time is NOW for the people of the US to just say "no" to another war! Contact your congressional representatives and tell them in no uncertain terms that we will not risk WWIII for a "perceived threat" to Isreal. Your job, your future, and the lives of your children are at stake!

    There are probably a dozen dangerous political scenarios around the world that could flair into open warfare as a result of economic impacts of oil shortages and escalate to REAL nuclear war. This is how World War One got started. Not by a deliberate aggression by a major power. Indeed, I don't think any of the major powers want to take their economically weak countries to war. However, the cosequences of an attack by Isreal on Iranian assets would set in motion a procession and process of one thing after another, with all of the circumstances rapidly getting worse and worse. The law of unintended consequences can quickly drive events toward conflict in UNEXPECTED ways. So, contact your congressional representatives folks. Tell them the world does not need another global crisis to crush the economic recovery. If enough people do this, the US can prevents Isreal from taking the world to the brink of total destruction.

    February 6, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Reply
    • Jim

      Well written like a novel but I am in complete agreement with the projected scenario of events. Israel needs to sit tight and make a lasting peace with its neighbors. If such events happen I don't think anyone will further remorse for the long ago haulocaust. They will only feel anger for the one created. War is not the answer!

      February 6, 2012 at 9:34 pm | Reply
    • RagMcmuffin

      Ingrid, you are either bored to hell or trying to run for office

      February 6, 2012 at 11:27 pm | Reply
    • Kato K.H.

      Thank you for this great article, thank you for the rare sane voice for peace. Sadly the war mongers never listen.
      But, supposing, just supposing Iran can be completely overwhelmed and fails to respond, is it right, is it acceptable, is it the way the world must go for any military power to attack another country, kill its citizens and destroy its cities, industries etc without any provocation, without any sensible reason except because they have the military might to do so and on the flimsiest of excuses? Is it accepted in world affairs that it is quite okay to attack any country too weak to defend itself? Is might equal to right? Does'nt it matter at all that thousands of people, trillions worth of property are destroyed so needlessly? What was Nuremburg for? Why are we chastising the Nazis when everybody is doing the same? Look at Iraq and Libya will anybody ever be brought to account for the death, destruction, chaos and absolute misery caused by America, Nato and their so called coalition of the willing? Is muslim and Arab lives not worth anything at all? Have we totally lost any sense of justice and faireness?

      May 18, 2012 at 3:03 am | Reply
      • Indrid Cold

        Thank you for your appreciation. The Internet, although a distant 2nd to television is its reach, does in fact garner the attention of the political forces of the world. When they realize that a significant number of people see through their games, it gives them pause. This is the only reason I continue to write, so thanks for the encouragement. As to the justification of war, there is none. All human lives have value. Every fiber of my being knows this is true. Certain things, like killing children, are never justified. However, there is a dangerous small, but influential segment of our society that will try to reset the margins for human decency. It's our job to stop them.

        August 1, 2012 at 2:53 am |
  6. Luke

    Israel in MORE than capable of taking care on IRAN themselves without AMERICAN BLOOD being spilled yet AGAIN on foren sand.
    The Warmongering Obama Administratoin and NATO...The North American Terrorist Organization..are right on their ORIGINAL Globalist pushed plan....to sell everyone that another Libya type invasion is their only alternative.
    Bomb the Hell out of the country,killing more innocent civilians that anything else.
    This new War along with War with Iran will risk putting starting WW3.
    Russia and China have vowd to defend Iran in such a conflict.
    But the West, Obama and NATO dont give acrapp.
    More of our Soldiers coming home in flag drapped coffins,fighting SOMEBODY ELSE'S WARS!!

    February 6, 2012 at 4:46 pm | Reply
  7. Hahahahahahahaha

    So when will the doilie heads and the towel heads start flying? Hahahahaha

    February 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Reply
  8. rightospeak

    Nothing to gage. Obama needs to stop being a servant of our pimp in the Middle East. All these endless wars, all this warmongering is killing us . Feed the racists to the Palestinians and we will have peace in Middle East. We need peace badly.

    February 6, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Reply
  9. mipolitic

    the only one that has not decided is obama and he is watching the polls for the answer. try spinning that one again obama

    February 6, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Reply
  10. Jim

    I would think by now we would learn after the utter waste in Iraq and Afghanastan that war is not the answer. Why would Israel attack because they think Iran is building a nuke to hit them. Its like getting a speeding ticket on a hunch you will speed. If Iran were to launch wouldnt Israel Launch, I think its called mutual distruction and therefor a deterrent. If Iran wanted to destroy Israel why wait so long. Are you implying the only way to get nuclear material is to build your own power plant when I am sure it could be bought from other sources. If Israel attacks they are no better than the ones they say are out to destroy them. Yet I see where they get the green light after all we obliterated Iraq on suspicion of WMD and look how that went. There is a difference in cost as we suffered 4500 lost, 40000 wounded and 809billion wasted. This will cost the world is the world prepared to suffer an economic collapse on the angst of one countries hunch. If there is a halo over Israel it will be gone in the worlds view.

    February 6, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Reply
  11. NeoGraphix

    The United States is never going to break ties with Israel on the sole basis of Israel being the birthblace of Christianity. When you have had every President swear under oath on a bible you would think that the United States will protect Israel at any cost on the religious value. Like it or not, we will be partners with Israel forever.

    February 6, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Reply
  12. Fred

    I am an Iranian -American and have lived in US since 1978. Although I love Iran, but I can fully understand Israel's decision to take action. Iran has every right to develop nuclear technology, even atomic bomb as a deterrent factor, but not with the fanatics running the country. These fanatics will do anything to remain in power until they suck the blood out of all poor Iranians and take all the riches from oil sales revenue like they have been doing in the last 34 years. The only regret in the attack is the loss of innocent lives. I respect Israel and personally speaking hope that they can find a peaceful way to solve their problems with the Palestinians so that these Mullahs in Iran and other fanatics in Arab countries won't have anymore reason to hate Israel. Most Iranians inside Iran or outside Iran don't care about this conflict as it doesn't concern them. They have more problems to worry about, like feeding their own families due to current high inflation, and 50% un employment in Iran. The ones chanting "Death to Ameica" or "Death to Israel" in Iran don't represent the masses. They are the very poor that come because they get paid by the mullahs to put on a show.
    Most Iranians don't know the true meaning of democracy. Through out their history they have been ruled by dictators, some good, some bad. Country has been invaded by Greeks, Afghans, Mongols, Arab, English, and Russians. Iranians in general have become like a sponge. They absorb and not do anything. Or like bamboo shoots, they bend against the force of wind, but go on living, because they are tired of fighting.
    So, if you talk to an Iranian they will tell you they don't like American government, but they like Americans. This concept to an average American doesn't make sense, because its suppose to be a government representing its people. And, when someone one shouts "Death to America" we take it personally. But, if one sees this from an average Iranian perspective it makes sense, since they have never had a government that represented people.
    If there is an attack on Iran, I certainly hope Israel refrains from attacking civilians as it will only add to the fuel in the region. Targets should be anything that has to do with the Mullah's infrastructure. And I certainly hope the next time a Million Iranians revolt in the streets, US gives them 100% support.

    February 6, 2012 at 11:44 am | Reply
  13. michaelfury

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/as-the-crow-flies/

    February 6, 2012 at 10:19 am | Reply
  14. Jonathan Pollard AIPAC Spy American Traitor

    The whole world hates the dirty evil zionists!

    February 6, 2012 at 9:48 am | Reply
    • doughnuts

      Come out of the closet and say what you really mean, Adolf.

      February 6, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Reply
  15. endgame5515

    If Israel attacks Iran, it's going to be for good reason. Muslim countries really need to learn to behave themselves. They're too stupid to learn through dialogue, so the only way to do it is with a good spanking. Of course, their blinded adherence to that camel-humping god of theirs means they'll never learn. Oh well, that just means more Islamotrash to spank.

    February 6, 2012 at 5:24 am | Reply
    • Jonathan Pollard AIPAC Spy American Traitor

      From H. Clinton to Clapper, and Obama and his monkey Biden the Kiss Butt V.P., they all should be jailed and then promptly shot as traitors to the American People.

      If not, then bring it on, WW3 Baby!

      Let's get it over with because in the end there will be no more israel and no more zionists. the evil. zionist state of israel will be WIPED off the planet and all the surviving EVIL zionists will be hunted down and given what them most assuredly, deserve. It will come painfully slow for some.

      America will be no more, but their is a price to pay for this madness, F-off AIPAC, cnn, W. Post, NYTIMES, and every piece of this nasty evil new world order. The END clock is ticking, your/our doom is coming for us, so let's get it on!

      From Hillary Clinton to Clapper and monkey Obama, Biden the Kiss Butt V.P., should be jailed and then promptly shot as traitors to the American People.

      If not, then bring it on, WW3 Baby!

      Let's get it over with because in the end there will be no more israel and no more zionists. the evil. zionist state of israel will be wiped off the planet and all the surviving zionists will be hunted down and given what them most assuredly, deserve.

      Sadly, America will be no more, but their is a price to pay for this madness, F off AIPAC, CNn and every piece of this nasty evil new world order. Your clock is ticking, your/our doom is coming, so let's get it on!

      February 6, 2012 at 9:54 am | Reply
      • Frottage

        You seem rather............passionate.

        Then again, most lunatics are.

        February 6, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
    • Joe

      You may be an atheist, endgame, but that "camel-humping god" is the same God that nearly 4 billion christians, muslims, and jews combined worship you ignorant dumbass

      February 6, 2012 at 10:10 am | Reply
    • TiredVET

      Imagine you getting off the computer for a period of time longer than it takes to grab a mtn dew and chips...and getting up to defend this country. Easy for you to pound away at your keys and spew your hatred speaking of the "spanking" needed. Funny thing is...I respect your right to say whatever your ignorant heart desires, (that's what we fight for) but excersing my same right...I am going to tell you to STFU and go back to playing modern warfare, because you clearly do not understand the consequence of war. People like you make me sick to know that, after all the death and destruction over the last 9 years, you sit so earger to send our troops off to another fight.

      February 16, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Reply
  16. Cassandra Chu

    It's time we drop-kicked israel ... she is the little weasel step-sister that we never wanted. they are liars and hypocritical thieves... leeches...

    February 5, 2012 at 7:47 pm | Reply
    • EbolaZaire

      Yes, it would certainly be a good idea to abandon the only democratic western leaning nation in the region in order to allow the authoritarian states like Iran and Syria to dominate unchallenged. Indeed, that would appear to be the agenda of Russian and China, now the world's chief sponsors of state sanctioned killing of dissidents.

      February 6, 2012 at 9:01 am | Reply
      • tali

        well said, ebolazaire. when china vetoed along with russia the condemnation of Syria, they were making a very clear statement: "Russia and China will kill their own people if their one-party systems are threatened."

        March 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • US1

      Middle East problem as the world knows it is the illegal occupation of Palestine. As long as the Zionist living illegally in Palestine then don't expect any peace from these mosquitos blood suckers whom they can't live without killing and shedding blood. They want to attack Iran using our own American kids to die for them.

      February 6, 2012 at 9:55 am | Reply
    • NeoGraphix

      The United States will never leave Israel's side because it's the birthplace of our basic religion. That is the tie that will never break.

      February 6, 2012 at 11:53 am | Reply
  17. GK_DG

    Folks, unless and until we the Americans get rid of dual citizenship, our government and our country is up for sale to the special interests, and we will be dragged into unwanted conflicts around the world. Also i am of the opinion that one must be at minimum a 3rd generation citizen to be qualified to serve in any of the 3 branches of government. The take over of the government and this land has a lot to do with the 1964 Supreme Court decision.

    Following is from Wikipedia:

    Based on the U.S. Department of State regulation on dual citizenship (7 FAM 1162), the Supreme Court of the United States has stated that dual citizenship is a "status long recognized in the law" and that "a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both. The mere fact he asserts the rights of one citizenship does not without more mean that he renounces the other," (Kawakita v. U.S., 343 U.S. 717) (1952). In Schneider v. Rusk 377 U.S. 163 (1964), the US Supreme Court ruled that a naturalized U.S. citizen has the right to return to his native country and to resume his former citizenship, and also to remain a U.S. citizen even if he never returns to the United States.

    February 5, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Reply
  18. mipolitic

    well the usa seems to have trouble defining what is a threat and what is not a threat. hitler was said not to be a threat along with japan until one sunday morning. the intel of the nsa warning of an attack by terrorist against the usa within its boaders were also ignored. then planes of 9/11 strike.
    then we have the bush and cheney lies that we are doomed if we do not act.
    well no one is blowing things out of proportion with iran. the IAEA disagreed with bush and cheney on iraq weapons . but now we have the IAEA along with many nations sounding the alarm including Canada. Canada did not agree with bush and cheney.
    obama may infact be aware of the truth about irans threats , but because of the election he is staying clear of iran for his own personal gain rather than protecting the people of the usa. iran is the real deal !

    February 5, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Reply
  19. Nakaii

    Let 's see here. Is-real has more that more than half of congress and senate that of Jewish decent representing "OUR" America". Funny but true, so let's say, they have perswation over America best interests? And of course, with duel citizen and pleany of money, given to a race that took JC to the cross, because He was , a Galilean, a zealot , a terrorist , who heal the sick and educated these people to Uderstand LOVE and for that, well you Know, what happen , according to there explanation they still claim there innocent of the crime? Figure that out, I'm still wondering, if that Jewish state is a usa reservation, USA , why do they have direct assets to repercent there Resevation, while there are pleany of Reservations in USA , with the RED RACE, kept on lease, I MEAN, reservation, oh I forgot were called native American, we have yet to be actknowledge , like the yellow, black, and white races of the world . But for sure I feel and might be wrong that most Jews our civil minded and not money wersepers of ?like zealots , that' s the puse that affecting all of the middle east, most people of the world believe in " CHRIST" LOVE" and FOrgiveist, why not the zealots, come on, give it up, jump on board , the Peace TRain is Free, the deception is over, the big LIE, ( karma) is pass, the TRUTH (GRACE)

    is IN. FOr the Women of the WORLD, and of course OBAMA 2012 BLESSing...

    February 5, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Reply
    • tali

      try some education. you might like it!

      March 6, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Reply
  20. Cheese Lozada

    You know, in Europa, sin ropa, its so so big. I;m so so hot in my pockets. My left booby has orange juice, my right booby has milk. in my mouth, i keep all the chocolate. I so, so gay!

    February 5, 2012 at 10:22 am | Reply
  21. new_york_loner

    Isn't it odd, that a state outside our union of American states, a state that pays nothing in US federal taxation, should enjoy full US Representation in both houses of Congress, the White Hose and even on the USSC? Ever wonder how and why this is so?

    We Americans have no reciprocal control over the Knesset...the Jews would never tolerate that...but we goyim are expected to submit to Israeli meddling at the highest levels of our government....or be called "anti-Semites".

    Ladies & Gentlemen...this is utter BS....it's time to retake our own government, it's currently in foreign hands.

    Check out the Israeli bribery:

    http://maplight.org/us-congress/interest/J5100/view/all

    We have been sold out...our "best ally" has purchased our lawmakers...and relatively cheaply.

    Ron Paul is the only candidate out there that dares to point to this infiltration and complain about it. His chances are zip...he has been targeted by the Israelis.

    February 5, 2012 at 10:11 am | Reply
    • tali

      and you and the haters that have been rallying around Ron Paul are going to sink his chances with the mainstream.

      March 6, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Reply
  22. Sayan Majumdar

    In response to criticisms regarding Israeli three-stage Jericho III Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles (IRBM) capable of delivering a notional 1,300-kg payload to a distance of 5,000-km, for practical purposes Israel will put multiple warheads(employing terminal guidance) on their Jericho III IRBM to restrict their range to continental operations with high terminal speed to defeat Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD) systems.

    Sayan.

    February 5, 2012 at 8:40 am | Reply
    • Jonathan Pollard AIPAC Spy American Traitor

      Sayan is an idf propagandist for sure. Bug off, dorka!

      February 6, 2012 at 9:49 am | Reply
  23. ceciel

    that jimmy carter should have delt with iran back in 79 .

    February 5, 2012 at 7:33 am | Reply
    • tali

      the jimmy carter "type" that's in office now has a second chance this year to do the right thing. Lets not make it 0/2, 1979 and 2012.

      March 6, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Reply
  24. mipolitic

    there is nothing to guage , just look at the un results about syria, putin wins – obama looses. obama is weak and world leaders know it due to the fact obama talked with the taliban in deal making. obama lost respect and russia , iran , syria 's assad , egypt , afghanistan , pakistan , and i bet north korea will ignor him. so as far as israel goes , they are not waitting on him ti grow a backbone. facing a few bad guys in a small pocket is not the backbone required to be a commander and chief.

    February 5, 2012 at 4:12 am | Reply
  25. Deano

    its time to nuke them and straighten out the middle east. Fuck this talk bull shit. One missle and if they still talk back 1.000.000 troopes storming tyran would shut his little mouth up.Oh you say no well then 4.000.000 troups is that decent we could go on but whats the point we are the west and the best.We won the war oh ya both of them.Lets do this shit!!!

    February 5, 2012 at 1:42 am | Reply
    • tali

      deano has it all figured out

      March 6, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Reply
  26. Free Bradley Manning!

    AMERIKA SUCKS MUSLIM COCK.

    February 5, 2012 at 1:41 am | Reply
    • Deano

      oh thats nasty. A dirty sand nigger cock you say? Yuck

      February 5, 2012 at 1:44 am | Reply
    • Iranacockuptheirass

      May 10000 camels shit down the throats of your mothers

      February 5, 2012 at 1:48 am | Reply
    • mevsyou

      learn to spell dip shit

      February 5, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Reply
  27. Sayan Majumdar

    Indeed Israel is capable of striking Iranian nuclear facilities without prior notice if Israel decides to strike initially with Jericho II/III ballistic missiles, to be followed up by precision air strikes.

    Any counter response from Iran can be effectively dealt by Israeli ‘Homa’, the multi-layer Anti-Tactical Ballistic Missile (ATBM) system for protection of Israeli homeland.

    However it will be prudent to deduct that United States administration will be aware of such an eventuality if not the precise timing.

    Sayan.

    February 5, 2012 at 1:02 am | Reply
  28. Papa Joe Stalin

    I am sick and fucking tired of this country continually kissing Jew ass and sucking Jew cock.

    February 5, 2012 at 12:53 am | Reply
    • Deano

      fuck ya lets drop one big nuke on the middle east. We can sent in workers in protective gear to build the pipe line. No more fighting , no more terrorism.Its all good. well except for the war loveing muslims. geod you say. BANG is what I say!!!

      February 5, 2012 at 1:48 am | Reply
    • tali

      you guys are pretty clueless

      March 6, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Reply
  29. Lujack Skylark

    The future Iranian Israel war is mentioned in Ezekiel chapters 38-39. Israel wins victory.

    February 5, 2012 at 12:33 am | Reply
    • Sweet Jesus

      I always read the bible when I jack off.

      February 5, 2012 at 12:38 am | Reply
  30. hope

    IIsrael;Gods chosen,why does everyone want to destory them,

    February 4, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Reply
    • Will

      Anyone who thinks god put them ahead of you and your family is dangerous and an enemy. It isn't just a few people it's an entire ethnic group... That's why so many people hate you but maybe if jews as a whole gave the slightest bit of effort to live honestly and help all the people of the world you wouldn't have to worry about anti-semitism.

      February 5, 2012 at 12:18 am | Reply
      • Oleg

        The word "chosen" doesn't mean "better" or "superior". It means having more responsibilities on its shoulders.
        Antisemitism has been long before modern Israel came into being in 1948. So to cast the entire ethnic group or nation is being guilty looks a bit like Nazism to me. What do you think?

        February 29, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Deano

      Everyone has wanted to destroy the jews. Why?? Is ther something behind it? But for now isreal is the enamy. Eny country that says they dont beleive in freedom and doesnt respect their people is no friend of ours.The west has been in alot of wars and we know how to fight and have the latest in tecknology. So why go ther?Just ask germany how it went for them?Both attempts? I have one of hittlers silver ss bowls mayself.From my grandfather. proud Canadian.The other countrys didnt get a capital because they dont desurve it . Peace out my U.S.A. brothers

      February 5, 2012 at 2:22 am | Reply
      • tali

        im usa citizen, but you aint my brother. you are some wacko with nazi grandpa! leave!

        March 6, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  31. Denis MacEoin

    Iran will not retaliate if we first take down its obnoxious regime. There are plenty of honest Iranians who will take over and create a democracy there. The regime is made up of criminals from top to bottom. They have threatened to destroy another UN state. They have gunned down pro-democracy protesters. They exclude non-extremists from standing for the Majlis. They hang and persecute their own largest religious minority, the Baha'is. They hang political moderates, gays, women, and anyone else who falls foul of them. They are, in sum, not fit to govern any nation and should be removed. Israel, by contrast, has never gunned down a single anti-government protester, has no death penalty, has a vibrant democracy, has a massive international aid system, protects those same Baha'is and all other religions, gives gay people full rights, has more start-up countries than any other country, has the second largest educated sector in the world, and so on. Yet above me more than one poster thinks the destruction of Israel would be a good thing. If Iran gets nuclear weapons, Israel will only be the first to fall under their shadow. It is Nazi Germany all over again. Make no doubt about it.

    February 4, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Reply
    • Will

      Yeah they do have a massive international aid system we give them 5 billion dollars a year in "forgiveable" loans how ignorant are you man.

      February 5, 2012 at 12:14 am | Reply
      • Deano

        Excatly so one old Nuke. Doesnt cost us dick except the fuel to get it ther and BANG done deal. In the papers it reads the wourld finally has peace the middle east is dead!!! Sorry but it is what it is. The truth sometimes hurts.

        February 5, 2012 at 1:53 am |
    • Lord Haw Haw

      "Nazi Germany all over again"..............

      What an absolute fucking idiot.

      February 5, 2012 at 12:40 am | Reply
  32. mipolitic

    this story is miss leading , israel knows exacxtly where mr obama sits , and israel know he does not sit at the table with israels or christians. jews will support support , not taliban support. israel will support those that support truth.

    February 4, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Reply
    • Will

      Israel supports those who have a pro jewish agenda thats it.

      February 5, 2012 at 12:12 am | Reply
      • tali

        and this surprises you, genius? they are the most threatened people in the world.

        March 6, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Lord Haw Haw

      You never cease to amaze me with your inane gibberish.

      February 5, 2012 at 12:41 am | Reply
  33. Rob

    with James Clapper attending this meeting I'm sure there won't be any lack of applause

    February 4, 2012 at 6:38 pm | Reply
    • new_york_loner

      That's funny stuff, Rob....I will refrain from making a joke here about the clap...gotta keep it clean....one thing is for sure, if General Clapper's analysis turns out to be crap, Clapper will be in the crapper....and his boss, the Commander-In-Chief, will be in the crapper with Clapper.

      February 4, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Reply
  34. new_york_loner

    If and when Israel strikes the Iranians, the US will be accused of complicity and it will be difficult to convince many people, at home and abroad, that Israel truly acted without some level of US approval and complicity.

    If Panetta's prediction comes true, and the Israelis strike the Persians this Spring, the consequences of that action would dramatically affect the US presidential race.

    President Obama's legacy and his chances for election – his political fate – are now in the Israeli PM's hands. PM Netanyahu is a master politician; he will play the hand he has been dealt, with his own political interest's uppermost in his mind.

    One must ask, who is the sock puppet and who is the puppeteer? Is Obama actually calling the shots, or is Bibi Netanyahu the de facto, US Commander-In-Chief?

    February 4, 2012 at 6:24 pm | Reply
    • persian100

      bibi is the commander in chief, of course

      February 4, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Reply
    • ceciel

      i thought i saw barry bowing to the king of saudi.
      truth is barry is not the brightest bulb on the xmas tree.

      February 5, 2012 at 7:29 am | Reply
  35. sam

    What about China,Syria,Russia,Pakistan,India,Turkey,Egypt,Iraq,Afghanstan, ?

    February 4, 2012 at 6:24 pm | Reply
    • Deano

      And what about them??? Plenty more to go around. its time to work with each other.If you are against that than you are an enemy. That dont sound wrong to me. Looking out for the best of man kind, we all have attributes.But some just want to fight and say jehad, and live in a tent.Not me i will fight for a bette future and will have more than a AK-47 backing me.Willl have the West, the free world with all its power and military might. THE SAND NIGGERS WILL DIE!!

      February 5, 2012 at 2:03 am | Reply
    • ceciel

      What about China,Syria,Russia,Pakistan,India,Turkey,Egypt,Iraq,Afghanstan, ?

      the people in the countrys you listed would kill for a us visa .

      February 5, 2012 at 7:40 am | Reply
  36. haroun

    Once again, the Jewish state has found yet another enemy for the USA. So let it be said,if the Jewish state bombs Iran...Iran has every right to kill jews wherever they are to be found.
    Known as war...theirs!!

    February 4, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Reply
    • new_york_loner

      Haroun, that's racist talk...killing Jews, simply for being Jewish, is indefensible. Same goes for killing Muslims, simply for being Muslims. Ditto for killing Christians, simply because they are Christian.

      Killing non-believers, simply because they do not believe, is murder and it cannot be justified by any noble goal.

      This is the 21sr century man, Holy Wars Suck....didn't you get the Email?

      February 4, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Reply
      • haroun

        Racist nothing...It's an act of WAR. I'm stating the reality of such acts. It's not a mercy mission they're talkin'. The Jewish state is once again beating the drums of yet ANOTHER war. Not another drop of American blood and treasure...pure and simple.
        So let them have their war...without US(A).

        February 4, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
      • Denis MacEoin

        Thank you for talking sense.

        February 4, 2012 at 8:35 pm |
      • Denis MacEoin

        Haroun, Can you please tell me in words of 1 syllable which wars the Jews have started in the past 2000 years? You will find books in bookstores called History Books. Please buy one and read one and stop posting nonsense.

        February 4, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
      • Will

        Buddy they've been involved in almost every major western war for the past 2000 years, not fighting themselves instigating and betting on both sides. You're just as ignorant as haroun or that unwilling to believe how evil your people are if you think otherwise.

        February 5, 2012 at 12:08 am |
      • Lord Haw Haw

        Good for you, haroun. Tell it like it is. Jews are. ironically, the biggest racists on the planet.

        February 5, 2012 at 12:45 am |
    • persian100

      unfortunate , but well said

      February 4, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Reply
      • haroun

        @Denis MacEoin

        May 14, 1948, when Israel declared itself a state, it had expelled 400,000 Palestinians from their homes and was capturing their lands and territories, which were assigned to the Arab state. When three (not five!) Arab armies invaded Zionist-held Palestine on May 15, 1948, they were intervening to stop the expulsion of the Palestinian people and to protect their lands from being taken over by Zionist forces.
        At the end of the war, they failed miserably at their task. Israel was able to expel another 360,000 Palestinians and to capture half the territories of the Arab state adding them to the Jewish state.In 1956, Israel invaded Egypt along with Britain and France. This was in addition to intermittent but continuous cross border raids into the West Bank, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Egyptian-held Gaza over the decades to come.

        In 1967, Israel invaded Egypt, Syria, and Jordan and occupied their territories and all of the remaining lands of Palestine.
        In 1973, Egypt and Syria invaded their own territories (Sinai Peninsula and the Golan Heights), which Israel had earlier occupied, in an attempt to reclaim them but failed. They did not invade Israel itself.
        In 1978, in 1982, and in 2006, Israel invaded Lebanon killing tens of thousands of people.
        In 2008-2009, Israel invaded Gaza".

        Get this dog on a leash OR arrest owner…PLZ!!

        February 4, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
    • ceciel

      haroun

      take your meds , stay off the computer.

      February 5, 2012 at 7:45 am | Reply
  37. John

    This has nothing to do with the content of this article, but can CNN writers please get it together? I read this blog every day and am very disappointed by the lack of effort they put into their writings. I'm not sure whether the mistakes appear during the transition to the blog or not, but the first paragraph alone has three writing mistakes. I'm pretty tired of feeling like an editor on almost every article I read on this blog. Like I said, the content is amazing but the articles are either poorly written, or the writer does not care enough to ensure the quality of their work that they post.

    February 4, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Reply
    • new_york_loner

      John, I hear ya.

      I wish that there was an edit function for our posts here...we're all human and we all make errors.

      The Spellchecker functions tend to give us a false sense of security; if we get rid of the red squiggly lines under the misspelled words, we think the job of proofreading is over...wrong!

      Spellcheckers do not detect homophone errors, for example and they can miss repeated words and they do not alert the writer to a wrong or missing word, or a missing article.

      Errors of agreement between number, gender, case, mood, tense etc. are not detected on standard spell-check features. They are not grammar correcting, at this point in time.

      I probably made grammatical errors in this posting...if so, mea culpa.

      February 4, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Reply
  38. Will

    What a shock the person writing this story, the diplomat from Israel and the congresswoman from the US all jewish spreading their propaganda to get us into another war where more non-jews will die while they line their pockets.

    February 4, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Reply
    • persian100

      amen, brother

      February 4, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Reply
  39. new_york_loner

    President Obama is wringing his impotent hands; he has no idea if and and when our "ally" might strike Iran and thus drag the USA into yet another holy war at Israel's behest. What a friggin' wimp...this is hope & change? This is neocon lite.

    February 4, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Reply
    • tali

      theres no mystery, man. we support israel because they are the least crazy, most predictable, most productive, and most like us in aregion that its very very important to us.

      March 6, 2012 at 3:28 pm | Reply
  40. arlen

    we the united state will help israel with all our power to take action agaist iran if it comes to that no one wants a nuculer armed iran

    February 4, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Reply
    • Stan

      Fück israel, they are the worst thing that has ever happened to us, you are no american

      February 4, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Reply
    • Just asking

      Why? What has Iran done to your country? Haven't the US and Israel caused enough bloodshed around the world?
      The US does not have the right to go around killing whoever they don't like or care to understand.

      February 4, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Reply
      • ceciel

        more muslims are killed by fellow muslims .

        who killed all those people in eygpt ? muslims
        who is killing all those syrians ? muslims
        if america is in bed with jews , then why are muslims tripping over each other to come to big satan?
        islams vile

        February 5, 2012 at 7:50 am |
    • sam

      Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

      February 4, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Reply
    • persian100

      Stan , i do not care if Iran gets the bomb. Iran will not use it against the US . So dont say " no one wants and nuclear armed Iran " . You dont speak for me. We have gone to two wars because of Israel , but no more , brother . How stupid do you think Americans are ? ok , dont answer that.

      February 4, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Reply
      • Oleg

        And what exactly are those specific wars US went for Israel? Afghanistan? No. It was to get Al Qaida after 9/11 and Al Qaida's biigest enemy is not Israel, but US. Iraq? Again, no. Israel's former PM Ariel Sharon had mentioned that the Iraq war didn't make sense as Iraq didn't pose much threat. Iraq was occupied for 2 reasons: to avenge attempt on life of former President Bush the senior and finish the job he started and also to get access to another oil source other than Saudi Arabia.

        February 29, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Kato K.H.

      No one wants a nuclear armed Iran, but everybody is okay with a nuclear armed Israel breathing fire on all its neighbours? Right? Get serious mister>

      May 18, 2012 at 3:28 am | Reply
  41. thomas

    The USA must rid itself of this warmongering parasite called Israel before it drags US into a nuclear war!

    February 4, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Reply
    • Stan

      I could not have said it better

      February 4, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Reply
    • Richard

      You are correct, let Israel blow up the nuclear facility, then Iran will bomb Israel into the stone age. USA will not have to deal with Iran and you will be happy that Israel is destroyed. After all that is of primary importants in your little empty bigoted world

      February 4, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Reply
      • Kato K.H.

        It is you who thinks nothing of killing millions of Iranians and destroying their country without any sensible reason or any provocation whatsoever, just because they are not jews, just because they are muslim who is truly a BIGOT.

        May 18, 2012 at 3:16 am |

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