By Ivan Watson and Yesim Comert
Turkey's foreign ministry condemned Texas Gov. Rick Perry Tuesday for saying that Turkey was a "country that is being ruled by what many would perceive to be Islamic terrorists."
Perry made the statement during a spirited debated between Republican presidential candidates in South Carolina Monday night.
Most of Turkey was fast asleep during the live broadcast, and Turkish newspapers had already gone to print by the time Perry declared that Turkey had moved "far away from the country I lived in back in the 1970s United States Air Force. That was our ally that worked with us, but today we don't see that."
The Texas governor also argued that it was time for Washington to cut foreign aid to Ankara.
A spokesman for Turkey's foreign ministry fired back Tuesday, accusing Perry of making "baseless and improper claims."
In a statement e-mailed to CNN, Selcuk Unal said presidential candidates should "be more informed about the world and be more careful their statements."
"The unfortunate views of Perry are not shared in any case by Republican party supporters, considering the weak support he has received in public polls and primary elections," Unal concluded.
Top Turkish government officials were unavailable for comment Tuesday, with many of them in Northern Cyprus for the funeral of veteran Turkish Cypriot leader Rauf Denktas, but the country's largely-tabloid press wasted no time in responding to the comments on websites early Tuesday morning.
"The debate that the Republican candidate Rick Perry attended on American Fox TV turned into a scandal that contained very ugly statements about Turkey," announced TRT state television.
"Rick Perry: what an idiot," tweeted Mustafa Akyol, a columnist with the English-language Hurriyet Daily news. The Hurriyet newspaper also posted a video on its website of Perry drawing a blank in the middle of a prior debate, forgetting in mid-sentence which was the third of three government departments he would cut if elected president.
Perry's remarks came on the same day a Turkish foreign ministry spokesman announced that a new NATO radar station, manned by Turkish and American military personnel, went online this month in the Turkish province of Malatya. The radar station is part of a controversial U.S.-led missile defense shield that both Russia and Iran have publicly opposed.
For more than 50 years, Turkey has been the only Muslim member of the NATO military alliance.
Ankara's relationship with Washington has been turbulent over the last decade, with sharp divisions emerging after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
But that relationship has improved dramatically over the last several years. Turkey has commanded the NATO mission in Afghanistan four times over the last decade, and the United States shares real-time intelligence from aerial drones for the Turkish military's ongoing war with rebels from the Kurdistan Workers Party, who operate along the mountainous border between Turkey and Iraq.
© 2012 Cable News Network. Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
| Advertise with us | About us | Help | Advertising Practices
Normally I don't read article on blogs, however I wish to say that this write-up very pressured me to check out and do so! Your writing taste has been surprised me. Thank you, very nice post.
Excellent points altogether, you simply won a brand new reader. What would you suggest in regards to your put up that you simply made some days ago? Any sure?
Hi there, I found your blog by the use of Google while searching for a related subject, your web site came up, it appears good. I have added to my favourites|added to my bookmarks.
I called Cornyn and Hutchison's office today about PIPA and SOPA. As an aside I asked: " Is the country of Turkey an ally of the United States?" Staff at both offices could not provide a simple yes. I pointed that they are a member of NATO and the US is a founding member. Still could not get a simple "Turkey is an ally of the US". "Does the Senator know if Turkey is an ally of the US?" "Yes, but I do not know what the Senator's position is, call the Governor of Texas". "Why should I call Rick Perry? The Senator's responsibility is to vote on acts of War. If Turkey is a terrorist country, does the Senator feel we should go to war with Turkey?" "I cannot say, this is a decision of the Senator" ...
Perry is right: Turkey has gone Islamo. They have cozy realations with Iran and Syria, plus they have said that they do not believe Isreal has a right to exist. They have drifted from their secular constitution by requiring women to wear head scarves. It is time to cut off all military aid to them and all other Islamic countries. We have sold Turkey 100's of F-16's and what do they do with them, bomb their own people. They do not have any interest in saving the Syrian people by using their air power to protect civilians. They have shown their true intentions, which is the re-establishment of the Ottoman Empire.
True.....
Or it could be that Perry has gone whacko in accusing Turkey considering that Turkey was, and still is, the only moderate Islamic (mildly) democratic nation in the area. As for them "cozying" up to the "renegade states of Syria and Iran"? Well do they REALLY have to march lockstep with America in how it views these countries in every way? Also, Turkey was, and still is a key western mediator for conflicts in the middle east INCLUDING the Israel Palestine conflict.....
So yeah Turkey REALLY have gone over to the dark side. Get out the Death Star America, you have some work to do.....
oh boy, David.... I don't know which sentence of yours to correct first .... Let's start...
1) Turkey does have relations with Iran and Syria. However, it is not cozy... Syria is blaming Turkey for harboring protesters in its land, and shutting down Turkish run businesses in Syria. And Iran ... please ... persians and turks have never liked each other never will. But nevertheless, they are neighbors and have import/export relations.
2) No government official in Turkey have ever said Israel shouldn't exit. You need to provide a reference to this. A whack job in Turkey might have said it somewhere and it might have made it to the newspapers. But this doesn't represent the government's stand on the subject.
3) Turkey is requiring women to wear headscarves??? This clearly tells me you really don't know what you are talking about. The Turks would rebel if the government passed such law. It didn't happen, and it will never happen.
4) Cut off military aid to Turkey? So this will also require the US Military Bases in Turkey to be shut down, right? Do you really think that is the best interest of USA?
5) Turkey has so far manufactured 210 F-16's themselves. US is providing the software for them. And Turkey has used their air force to bomb the terrorist hideouts in North Iraq, which is NOT Turkey.
6) "They do not have any interest in saving the Syrian people by using their air power to protect civilians." ... The only semi true sentence in your entire comment. Yes. Turkey will not use their air power to bomb Syria. Last I checked, that meant openly declaring a war to a neighbor. But as far as doing anything towards the Syria problem, Turkey at least opened up their border to accept the Syrian refugees that are fleeing to Turkey. There is a 40,000 people tent-town in the Syria-Turkey border. What has US government done so far?
Hi Texas,
Don't worry about it. We are watching him on tv and laughing our asses off.
Best,
Turkey
What's incredibly ironic here is that any lack of resemblance between modern turkey and the turkey of the 1970s is the result of the ruling party bringing more religion and less secluarism into public life – something that's EXACTLY what Perry advocates. Thank you, Rick, for showing us exactly why you shouldn't be President.
Wait, this guy is still in the race? Why?
Rick Perry says Turkey has some explaining to do to the United States. He’s really concerned that in Turkey in the past year there were between 140 and 160 honor killings of women. While that is a very sad situation, I wonder why he isn’t saying anything about his own United States and cities like Detroit. In 2011 there were 344 homicides in Detroit. Recently there have been four murders where women have been killed, thrown in car trunks and burned beyond recognition. These kinds of things are happening in the U.S. every day. Isn’t Rick Perry being a little hypocritical to be sounding off about Turkey when he has things like this going on in his own back yard? I wonder how he would address the Detroit problem? Would he cut Detroit and Michigan off of Federal support?
The Zionist Israelis have committed more terrorist acts throughout the world than any other country combined. Starting with the bombing of the King David Hotel, the slaughter of 34 U.S. sailors and critically wounding 140 others on board the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967, to 9/11, 7/7, the massacre in Norway this past summer and most recently, murdering a nuclear scientist in Iran. These are but a few of the terrorist acts/false flags they have committed with total impunity. This is not to mention the daily terrorist acts they commit against the Palestinians. These Zionist neocons have infiltrated our local, state and federal governments and they hold key positions in the most important departments within our government, including the White House, Home Land Security, the Justice Department, the Pentagon and within Congress. We need to root out this cancer from the fabric of our nation if we have any expectation of taking back our country from those who are keen on destroying our democracy and way of life. Let us stop providing Israel with the over $3.5 billion U.S. Taxpayer dollars we give them every year (more than 17 countries combined who need it more than Israel). Let us apprehend and prosecute any Israeli who steals our military and technology secrets and sells them to China and Russia, like they have in the past with total impunity. Let us insist that our Department of Justice assign an independent prosecutor, with full subpoena powers, to fully investigate and prosecute the biggest crime and cover-up of the century, namely 9/11. Let us insist that DOJ fully investigate and prosecute the war crimes committed by the former Bush Administration. And, let us insist that DOJ fully investigate and prosecute all the criminals that committed the biggest fraud in Wall Street and the Banking sector. Once these legal issues are resolved, it will drain the swamp of all the Zionist neocons that have infiltrated our government and are dictating our foreign policy. Our elected representatives, including our President, are mere puppets of Israel’s AIPAC. That is what happens when you sell your soul to the devil.
Is your tinfoil hat on tightly enough?
Mr. Perry, I am ashamed of you for making such baseless remarks. Turkey helps us balance Iran in the region and has lent substantive support to our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Turkey provided logistical support and invested in northern Iraq, which helped stabilize the region. Turkey is a willing American ally, but clearly you prefer to make enemies than find paths to stability in the Middle East and Central Asia.
Perry has shown time and again that he is, for lack of a better word, an idiot. Not particularly smart, but possessing a sort of low animal cunning when it comes to politics. Unfortunately for him, but fortunately for us, it takes more than feral political instincts to make it nationally. We really shouldn't let D-students run for office.
I was just wondering... If Perry were to have actually gotten the nomination, would another village in Texas have lost their idiot???
Turning any repo loose as president is a recipte for disaster. They have no understanding of foreign policy and will have us in another war befor long.
As a turk i did not mind Rick Perry.He got alot of atentiton than he deserved .I know he is a tool and a goofball.An average guy do not have to know about every country and their dynamics. but a presidental candidate,who is posibly gonna hang around the launch button of the intercontinental nuclear missiles should do better.I think the the fox news guy (Hannity if im not wrong) purposely herded Perry that way.They knew he was going to talk gibberish.they wanted to elimitate him to add his supporters to Mit Romney.They simply can not stand the idea of Ron Paul running for presidental race.(sorry for my english thats all i got ) Goood evening fom snowy İstanbul.
her I first met this beautiful mom when she was prnegant back in December. Then, this little sweetie was born. She has changed SO much! This was my third and favorite session with M, I love it when I
In the beginning of his campaign Perry was going to ride in and save the day from a bunch of lackluster republican candidates. Instead, every time he gets off that horse he just steps right in another pile of road apples. Time to head back to the corral Gov.
I think today's speech of Perry was out of the bonds. How can you call a long lived european ally and call them terrorists for out of nowhere? This is too cheap politics that even doesn't deserve the respect of baboons. Just look at history how strong the relationship is between US and Turkey, yet Turkey has been more liberal than US on many issues. Sad but true... Drinking alcohol on the streets, open bars until 6am, bars in front of mosques and you call them radical Islamist? So inane!
@DrSaAy I think today's speech of Perry was out of the bonds. How can you call a long lived european ally and call them terrorists for out of nowhere? This is too cheap politics that even doesn't deserve the respect of baboons. Just look at history how strong the relationship is between US and Turkey, yet Turkey has been more liberal than US on many issues. Sad but true... Drinking alcohol on the streets, open bars until 6am, bars in front of mosques and you call them radical Islamist? So inane!
The man is a boil on the arse of humanity.
This guy cleans up pretty good,! I'm sure it's the best money can buy! But talk about Stupid! It's written all over his face! No way he gets near the White House!
Yeah, well, we gave Idiot Jr. 8 years, so anything is possible.
Ten gallon hat and a half-pint brain !
I'm imagine the only thing that stops Romney and Santorum from laughing out loud whenever Perry speaks is that they are stunned silent by the breadth of his ignorance.
Just like your comment.
Russ... You must have banged your head too hard while under the desk in Austin...
...........and thanks to all you repubs in Texas that keep this guy in charge of our state. still a great idea huh!
Another Texan, like the last one, whose mouth is too big for his 10 gallon hat.
c'mon folks, leave him alone. he's just an idiot , trying to do his best. he's out in a week.
yeah, that's what they said about the LAST idiot, Obama. Look what happened to him. At least Perry has some brains. Sorry you can't understand it.
His MOUTH he has shown.
Brains???? Where's my microscope.....
When I hear or read the comments these GOP candidates make i have to wonder why they call Ron Paul loony ,, he is the only one sane ,, both with internal and foriegn policy ,, never thought i'd say this but i hope he is the next president.
The G.W. clone is already pissing people off and he isn't even remotely close to being nominated by his party.
so 8 years of the previous idiot wasn't enough?
Hey this is the Turkey he knows,
Turkey is best known as the home of Bob Wills, the King of Western Swing. Wills was a barber in Turkey during the 1920's. Wills formed The Texas Playboys and their music introduced a new offshoot of county-western music known as “Western Swing.”
The former Turkey school buildings were purchased by The Bob Wills Foundation and city offices, the library, a senior citizens room, and the Bob Wills Museum are located in the former grade school building. The Foundation has built a Bob Wills monument and Bob Wills Park. The annual Bob Wills Day Festival draws ten thousand to the town the last Saturday in April.
Major crops are cotton, watermelons, peanuts, and sweet potatoes. In fact, sweet potatoes from Turkey are prized for their quailty and superior taste to this day. Thanks for taking the time to visit our site and we hope you’ll plan a trip to our wonderful town soon.
Nice. Seriously, that was nice.
*Respect*
Perry's slack lower lip should lock-in the Neanderthal vote.
LOL, indeed...
Why is it that so many Republicans (Perry, Palin, Bachman) show such a lack of knowledge of world affairs that they can't remember who our allies are? Could it be that they suffer from the kind of non-fact related, religiously focused, politically biased education they want to impose on the rest of this country? These phony 'average Joe' proud-of-their-ignorance candidates are dangerous. It is unnerving to think of the kind of damage their ignorant fanaticism could inflict on this country and the world. On top of that, these poster children for ignorance set a poor example for america's youth. We need well-rounded, educated statesmen like individuals running for office instead of these egocentric political hacks.
Amen!
You should be able to recognise what idiots the right wingers are by their lack of real knowledge. All they really know is the party line of facism.
Tax the american people and give the money away to hostile countries .Borrow money from China and give it to hostile countries. This is Obamas foreign policy.The democrats way.
Really?
We've been funding them for more than four years. What makes you think this is an Obama issue?
We've been borrowing money from China for a lot longer than three years. We've been in debt for over a century. And Turkey has been a NATO member since 1952. In case you were wondering, the president of the US at that time was Dwight D. Eisenhower. A republican.
These are complex issues. Try reading a book once in awhile. I recommend you start with "Diplomacy" by Henry Kissinger. If you can't get through that, maybe you should keep your jingoistic, bumper-sticker opinions on global politics to yourself.
Perry is party right. Turkey is the nation that is sponsoring all the Gaza blockade running. Israel's blockade of Gaza has been ruled legal by the UN, and Turkey is flouting the UN and international law by trying to break Israel's legal blockade. Not to mention the fact that Turkey has been blockading Armenia for many years. Turkey is a bunch of hypocrites.
That is a different story.. For Rick Perry to go and say that the Turkish government is corrupt and ran by terrorists is completely inaccurate. First of all if that was the case im sure America would not have an Alliance with them.
Now THAT's funny! We have an alliance with Pakistan, which IS totally corrupt and run by terrorists!
steve – there are Americans (misguided ones, I believe) involved in that blockade running, as well. Many people see it as a humanitarian issue divorced from politics. I think they're wrong, but that doesn't make them evil. Just wrong.
Also, Turkey buys a lot of weapons from Israel, and they have many other ties. These are complex issues, not subject to quick dismissal.
Continue taking your medications but I'd strongly recommend lobotomy soon...
Those who have no argument resort to personal attacks. Thanks for conceding my point.
Flouting international laws? Kinda like how Israel has done so by building settlements on the west bank? Oh and the Gaza blockade has been deemed unacceptable by human rights groups, but I guess they don't matter.
Tucson, AZ – Governor Perry does not understand that it is tyranny to impose social values on another by force or threat of force, no matter how convinced we are of their superior merit. Ataturk's republic suppressed religion so a resurgence of fundamentalist religion in Turkey now is no more or less than expected. It is his misfortune that the Koran rather than The Bible of his own church is the "old time religion" over there. The United States has common national security interests with Turkey, and the violence is closer to them. We must continue to cooperate with Turkey and to pay for the land and resources our intelligence apparatus uses over there. As long as their laws comply with international conventions, we have no beef.
looks like it's gonna be mit v.s. obama. do we really wanna change course, when, only 3 yrs. in office, pres. obama has tactfully made a dent in cleaning up the gargantuan mess that was handed to him by the bush administration? imperfection? yes, but the best bet for complex and challenging times=obama. miraculously, he has brought us back on course, even, in spite of, republican led congressional roadblocks. yes, mistakes: $250,000 tax increase target when it shouda targeted the very top $650,000+ !%, healthcare reform without explaining the impact of present system to our american citizenry and the rationale behind it. not perfect, but the best of all options, by far!
I totally agree. We need to dismantle this Congress. Hopefully, we can get Obama back on track with a fresh younger, more educated, Congress. Hopefully, not motivated by lobbyists and religious freaks.....my pet peeve is the religious card and how the conservative cavemen cant see others opinions and beliefs.....
Tucson, AZ – Governor Perry's remarks display total misunderstanding of Turkish politics and the role of the United States. A free State cannot impose social policy on another free State. I
WOW!!! If only you guys had looked at the annointed one this closely before he sent us down the path of destruction at shuttle speed.
Ask yourself honestly – in 2008 would Obama ever have said anything that ignorant? No, he wouldn't . This crew of GOP candidates are amazingly clueless, especially the Texas gov.
Wow, if only you'd watched the Democratic debates between the president and the secretary of state, you would know better.
And I don't think we've been destroyed just yet. I just looked out the window – country's still here. Children are playing, people are coming home from work. Not quite armageddon.
Isn't time Perry just went away ,,he dying in these primaries and all we need is for him add another country to the "axis of evil" with his stupidity.
The point is Perry has no business being in the race. He probably thinks he's getting national exposure for a future run, but not in our lifetime. This is so bad and so embarrassing for Texas, he may not win re-election in the next run for Gov.
God give mr the strength to see myself as others see me.
John, yes Perry's campaign is dying but that's why he made the comments about Turkey. He is pandering for the Jewish-American support and Israel's tremendous influence in this country.
What do you expect from a dumb-as-a-West-Texas-fencepost cowboy anyway? It has been said that a little education is a dangerous thing and Perry proves the adage. His idea of 'foreign' policy is what to do about the border between Arizona and Texas.
Yes... Perry is an idiot, but you need to study geography my friend.
Texas does not share a border with Arizona. There's this lovely state called New Mexico in between them.
I think he was referring to Mexico that runs along all three states
@guest
"... the border between Arizona and Texas."
Whombatt's statement was pretty clear to me.
I was watching that debate last night, and I knew they were going to be furious when they saw that. Of all the things I saw in that forum, it was the thing that shocked me the most. Very embarrassing to us as a country. Shameful. But no one on that stage, none of the moderators, even the vaunted anti-war Congressman Paul said nothing.
We are so accustomed to the rhetoric of war, of demonizing people, no on even noticed it was being done to an ally by someone who didn't seem to know which country he was talking about.
There are real demons out there. We should try to keep track of who is in an alliance with us.
Thanks Chris, that was the question I had after reading the article. It doesn't address whether or not anyone at the debate responded to Perry's remarks. The man continues to prove that is is really a complete idiot about issues both foreign and domestic. The fact that no one else felt the need to correct Perry is more frightening though.
No one standing up is a confirmation that they all are catering to the 1% Jewish vote in this country.
Perry, you the ultimate ignorant American. Kamal Ataturk founded Turkey as a seculoar state in 1923; the military ensures that Turkey remains a secular state. You obviously know nothing about the world in which you live. I have discovered the secret of your stupidity: you should see a doctor as you suffer from terminal cranial-rectal insertion. You are disgrace to the State of Texas and its residents.
sorry for the poor typing and mis-spellings....my glasses have eluded my finding them!
Did you happen to notice that the former top general was recently arrested for alleged involvement in a plot that could topple the AKP from power. Apparently they cannot guarantee the secularity of the state.
Jim – a lot of the moves the civilian government have made in recent years to de-fang the military have been at our urging (US) and also that of the EU. It's part of the program the western allies have been pushing to make the country a full-fledged democracy, not subject to constant coups, like, say Pakistan.
If the military has lost its power to guard the secular state, it is because we wanted it that way. The hope is that as a true democracy with closer and closer ties to the west (including, possibly, joining the EU), a takeover by religious extremists will be impossible – not supported by the people of a liberal, prosperous, industrialized nation that wants to do business with the world.
They have a republic. Let's see if they can keep it.
He's the governor of Texas. I guess that all that needs to be said.
Don't judge Texas by the remarks made by this idiot. The only reason he was voted in was to avert having a Democrat in office. Want to put up NY's economy with that of Texas?
Yeah I do. He's only created minimum wage jobs. He is an idiot. He's not the one that created them in the first place....Texas is full of bible thumping red-neck idiots.....better a Dem than a complete idiot...I mean you guys put in ole Dubya.....what a freakin JOKE!!!
If the only reason the majority of Texans voted for Perry was "avert having a Democrat in office", then I think my comment retains its validity. And yes, let's put NY's economy up against that of Texas. Whatever the current snapshot is, projecting a bit into the future, my part of the State, for example, is becoming a new center for nanoscience innovation, while Texas just seems to be steeped in old oil. By the way, Rice University is the birthplace of nanoscience, but Texans, as a whole, seem to lack a basic understanding and appreciation for science to realize what they had. But we could have guessed this based on the fact that they voted for Perry.
Its painful how stupid these pubbies are.
Country & Western song – "If the South Had've Won the War, We've Had it Made" ... Hm.
Can Mr. Perry name 3 countries in NATO (I'm sure he can name 2) without getting help from Ron Paul? A male version of Sarah Palin. Just the type of president the world needs!
Perry should have borrowed Palin's sharpie to write his material on the palm of one of his hands, and an arrow on the other palm to remind him where to look.
Another clodhopper with a bad case of hoof-in-mouth disease.
Perry is an f***in tool, and probably couldn't point to Turkey on a Map. Turkey is a melting pot, the center of the old Ottoman Empire and the capital of the older Eastern Holy Roman Empire. Aside from Israel, its the only place in the region where Muslims, Christians, Jews, and others can live in relative peace. Are they perfect? No, but then, neither are we. Turkey is a fine country with rich culture and among the nicest people I've met.
I agree. Jason.
You are right on Jason. Perry should stop embarrasing us. He has no idea what he is talking about. Turkye has always been a key ally to the US and will remain that way. Unfortunately, we have really ignorant leaders...
You are absolutely right Jason – Turkey is a great melting pot with really, really nice people, especially now that the Turks killed nearly all the Armenians in 1915 in the first genocide of the 20th century, and those that weren't killed were sent into the desert to die of starvation and thirst; children were stolen from their dying mothers' arms and forcibly converted to Islam, and the pretty women were kidnapped and used as sexual slaves...but hey, that's OK, because Turkey is our allies, and that is all that matters. In fact, one of my best friends routinely kicks his dog, beats his wife, cheats on his taxes, texts while he drives and picks his nose in public, but because he is my friend its OK...really Jason?! And the Greeks, Assyrians, Jews and Kurds – yep, Turks are really nice to them too!
So the Turks are evil you say? because the US and all the other countries did not exploit slavery at all. Leave this narrowed point of view please, you probably do not even know the suffrage movements in your country but let me say the women of Turkey was voting for their country since the establishment of the republic.
The USA makes friends of its defeated enemies. Turkey became a friend after World War I. The Turkey of today cannot be held responsible for the actions of pre-WWI Turkey. The Japan of today cannot be held responsible for the actions of WWII Japan. The Germany of today cannot be held responsible for the actions of WWI and WWII Germany.
dont worry Turkey the American people will make sure that christian inbreed wont step in the white house
how bout we not elect any right wing christian funda-mentals into the WH EVER! all of the GOP field are mentally unstable.
I second the motion.
We have finally found a Republican presidential candidate that appears to be dumber than W. Perry actually makes W look like Albert Einstein : )
Hahaha. I like that
Cuneyt, I love the comment.....:)
Although we tend to see the economy as The Issue for the election, I dread the idea that any of these idiots would be in charge of our Foreign Policy. The economy, good or bad, will pale next to the disasters they would create around the world. Paul would completely detach us from the world, and the others would have us in a new war within weeks, probably with somebody like Japan!
why so uninformed? Paul would not detach us - he would finallly open free trade. Why give money to countries only to penalize them with unfair tariffs and quotas? This point is always missed by uninformed warmongers that think the US must buy its allies.
You actually believe that. He has to get his pompous 1912 ideas past Congress. He is selling you a dream. Plus you better hope he gets a good VP, cause that old fool will be dead the night he finds out he won.....
GOD D%^&!!!! you are STOO-PIDWowwwwwwwwww…….this guy is so painfully stupid it literally hurts my brain trying to figure how any respectable, at least half educated person could support this type of ignorance and sheer stupidity!! I mean, how the hell do you make it to be governor….aw never mind, just look at what state he is governor of. You know you are painfully ignorant when a foreigner says about you: “presidential candidates should "be more informed about the world and be more careful their statements." ,
and be right in their assessment. Really people?? No seriously. This is someone you could seriously and consciously consider electing President of the United States? God help us all…
Hopefully this is the final nail in the Rick Perry coffin. Surely nobody is stupid enough to elect a man who openly insults world leaders. ... Surely.
Agreed!
The flotilla was ATTACKED BY ISRAELI soldiers on INTERNATIONAL WATER!!! Turkey is not at war with Kurdish Rebels, Turkey is at war with TERRORISTS.
I second that brotha...
When is a terrorist not a terrorist? When he/she is a member of Mossad or the IDF. America needs to start treating Israel like what they are, a terrorist apartheid regime led by criminals like Bibi Netanyahu and his Likud Party.
kYKauO ogqeetwdjrfq
It amazes me how the concept of ISOLATIONISM keeps coming up in these posts. Do you people NOT know that if we cut ourselves off from the world, the people we are going to be hurting is ourselves??? Honestly, you're like little kids... Don't know why you can't stick a fork in the light socket but you still think it's a good idea...
i so love your analogy, cause it about sums it up!
Every time Perry opens his mouth, he demonstrates that he's not fit to serve as President. Like all too many far right politicians, he is appallingly ignorant and would not have a clue as to how to conduct himself in foreign relations.
You know if he had a good staff and campaign management, every time Perry opened his mouth someone would rush over and push the pause button...
Well, here we have a turkey talking about Turkey. The great Dilwad speaks.
I think Rick Perry made a huge mistake, but now his campaign manager thinks to step back would be percieved as a weakness. Such an accusation towards an important ally (more than 50 years) is not a child play and it is an indicator of ignorance.
Rick Perry should talk to Bush about how important Turkey is to the US. Most of the forces and equipment from Iraq/Afghanistan/Others transport through Turkey. These are weapons to kill many Muslims. Also, the intelligence gathered through Turkish stations is immeasurable to intelligence. Turks overall love the American people, but also note that there is a faction that is manipulated by the Israeli lobby in promoting hate based Christian values. If you are a true Christian or a true Jew, or a Muslim, Turkey is a friend. The current party in charge in Turkey is similar to the Tea Party followers, but they came in power through democracy because of the wrong policies of Western nations against Turkey. Bogus Genocide bills, and outright racism towards Islam brought AKP to power, but they also do consider themselves secularist and believe it or not, they are much much more moderate then the fanatic evangelists and jewish groups...
i am totally impressed by your observations. sad but true. honestly my thought would be total opposite if i didn't pay a visit to Turkey last year to see what really it is. although the government is religiously influenced, it's no different than christian democrats or tea party as you said. i was amazed at how beautifully turkish women were dressed and this put my luggage to shame as i mostly brought long, covering dresses. the night life, especially in southern parts of the country is totally another story which shocked me. i was expecting to see "a muslim country" but what i saw was america being christian and being as liberal as west coast. i know in kurdish regions (eastern parts), it becomes more conservative but still it's no iran, syria or other middle east countries that the country is usually misplaced with.
Turkey ok unless you are Armenian or Kurd. They wouldn't allow us to cross into Iraq. Muslim influence makes then not eligible for European Union... which may be lucky.
Finally, another voice of reason. Turkey is one of if not the most moderate and tolerant country in the region!
these radical right types are simply dangerous
it ain't about being slick but if you just spout off every stoooopid thought in your head and can't keep track of your own policies you are below the bar for the office
Funny how ricky parry is pusing for term limits on congressman, yet he's been the longest serving governor for the State of Texas; maybe now Texans will see how much of "wizard of oz" he really is & he'll be ousted. "Do as i say not as i do? huh ricky?
That Perry is a real Turkey.
I would like to apologize to any Turkish people who might be reading through CNN. Rick Perry is most certainly NOT representative of the majority of Americans (Republican extremists, the religious right insane Christians and Tea Partiers notwithstanding).
Rick Perry is a buffoon, a dolt, an imbecile of epic proportions; he SHOULD be sitting in a corner wearing a pointy hat with a large "D" on it. The problem is that the vast majority of Republicans probably believe as Perry does.
Again Turkey; we're sorry that Perry is a moron, don't count it against the rest of us please.
I don't think they would really take it serious. During my visit, I was overwhelmed by their hospitality towards americans (well some don't like us but not because we are americans, just being snobby europeans). The comments on youtube about the video was verifying this too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKajQteExWs
"just being snobby europeans"
Turkey is in Asia, so Turks would not be Europeans.
Actually, Turkey is in both Europe and Asia.
I've found they indeed featured the article about Mr. P: http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25314599
This topic is TT in Turkish twitter now. The avarage people of Turkey would laugh at this Perry guy, but still there are some who are a little mad at the US who brings people like him to the arena and lets express his personal faulty ideas. I guess its all about the media again..
I think it's time we cut foriegn aid to ALL countries, friend, foe or frenemy.
Don't get up in arms, Turkey...we think the exact same thing about Rick Perry. Unfortunately, most anyone can run for president in this country. He's in no danger of winning.
What a moron. Holy cow, even the GoTP CANDIDATES are bad for America! Imagine what a disaster they would be if we actually ELECTED one of these tools!
Rick Perry I have no idea how u became the governor of Texas after the presidential run please move to Alaska with Sara palin so that we do not have to read about what u say. Thank-you
Turkey supported the flotilla that went into Israel's waters. Of course Turkey's terrorists are pulling the strings !
http://jewishinfonews.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/turkey-and-the-holocaust-how-turkey-saved-jewish-lives/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Turkey
http://www.sephardicstudies.org/sultans1.html
we also sent flotillas to save, itis not about religion but to save/help people who needed help.
So did a lot of other countries, including many European countries. They all must be run by terrorists. Dumb.
You are the one that is dumb !! I'm talking about the one where Israel had to stop them because they were bringing weapons into the Gaza strip. Humanitarian reasons was just a ploy.
You and I both know that's a lie. IDF couldn't find any weapons on thos ships. They were unarmed.
It's nice to be a Monday night quarterback.
It's a sad fact that as long as Russia (read: Putin) is trying to resurrect the old Soviet Union, we'll need Turkey on our side. But once Russia is no longer a threat, we should drop Turkey like a hot potato. Their shift away from secularism and towards muslim extremism is dangerous.
If you are American Citizens, you are American and must support America.
If you feel being TURKEY, leave US and go their to get your STUFFING in. Come and see US on Thanksgiving day. Fair enough.
Oh, Stop it. You sound as dumb as Perry himself. Go educate yourself. You can't even spell or speak correctly much less talk about foreign affairs.
now we figured out who perry's publicist is...
The sad part is that you probably have no idea how uneducated and ignorant that you are.
Perry is an idiot.
That statement is an insult to idiiots everywhere.
I think anyone who claims to be Muslim or a Muslim nation, be at as liberal and as non-religious as Turkey is deemed a "terrorist" by these idiots. I hope and wish for real bad things to happen to these filthy kuffar who are insisting on hate/falsehood/lies/corruption/murder and so on. These worldly folks I guess don't beleivein the day of judgment after all.
There is no Islam in Turkey except for a few minority who actually practice their faith.
"There is no Islam in Turkey except for a few minority who actually practice their faith." who you think you are to classify people? it is same as what Perry did when he labelled in his speech... if you really believe, you know that you can not label people, and what if they do not practice? i am a Turk and i practice and what? who you are to judge people?
dinini takip edenler var demis isi carpitip icine etmeyin lutfen...
Abu, you are a knuckle head...You don't know jack about Turks....Go take your medication idiot
Lets not forget, Mike "Tea Bag" Constitution, that DEREGULATION and the invasion of IRAQ without paying for it, is what caused this economic mess. Check out your rich buddy Phil Gramm!
Loved you in the Fabulous Thunderbirds, dude. LeRoi Brothers, too.
This Texas sized buffoon probably couldn't find Turkey on the map. Turkey has a Muslin population, along with all other religions. It's not only a fascinating country with thousands of years of history but is a great ally to the U.S. and has a young well educated population. Unlike this country. Rick Perry is the picture of all things wrong in this country. He's scarey dumb and thinks the world wants to be like Texas. Well guess what – we don't! The number one thing wrong with Texans is their ego! Just like Perry himself! Get lost you dummy. You are so not ready for the national scene and NEVER will be! Go back to Texas and seceed already.
Muslin is a fabric, genius.
way to speak out of both sides of your mouth, condemn generlizing turkey (which i do agree perry is an idiot for doing), but then you turn around and generlize all texans, and tell them to secede from the U.S, try to be alittle smarter
Texas tried seceding from the Union once. It didn't work out for them.
as a Turk i do read all article, i watched the vid, and read comments, i can say we do not care what he said at first
politicians are politicians everywhere,i mean they all the same....
secondly, we are not taking any foreign aid from US, neither we destroy churches. i personally have respect to all religions and non-believers also. i just want to mention that do not think Turkiye is a country as he descibed. it is yes "far away from" that
and one more thing; some comments here are worse than what Perry said.
“Well, sure. We who are unhappy that unemployment has increased on Obama’s watch, that over-regulation has stymied economic growth, that our children now owe a $15 trillion debt that we can’t pay — hey, we’re just dumb!”
“We obviously aren’t smart enough to understand how devastating our economy, unemploying millions of Americans and burdening our children with trillions of dollars in debt is really a great idea.”
Heard Dubua called Rick Perry to offer some advice...But they ended up farting into the phone at each other and giggling...
What a bunch of ultra religious right wing War Mongers! (Except for Ron Paul) ...and the crowd...as far as I'm concerned they can go ahead and leave the Union which is what Perry suggested last year so they can take Texas with them.
The reason why they keep electing Governor GoodHair is that a Moron is easier to control, he is nothing but a meat-puppet like that other white house occupant we got rid of 3 years ago. GOP like puppets to do their biddings, they don't want them to be able to think for themselves, might complicate things too much, they are just there to get certain policies through for the oil industry, weapon industry, wealthy people etc. Though I bet they wished he would just STFU and not say things that are not scripted.
not a surprise at all... reminds me of Palin
Dear nation of Turkey,
On behalf of all America I'd like to take the opportunity to apologize for Rick Perry.
Apart from the jesus states, most of us think he is an idiot too.
Sincerely,
America
Thanks Brotha...no offence taken....he is W's helper...what else would you expect from an idiot..
It is now obvious to all that Perry is in idiot. Especially, the Fox News pundits. Me thinks Perry is doing the bidding for Jeb Bush. The guy had given all indications of withdrawing after Iowa, and now is back in SC. He always knew – heck when he ran for Lt. Gov in TX in '98, his ads only said elect me to help Gov. Bush. He got in on their urging – 'coz country does not have appetite for another Bush, and after 8 years of Obama, Jeb can come in as a savior (the fact that his wife comes from a not so illustrated family in Mexico sews up the sizeable Hispanic vote anyways). All Perry's gotta do is keep roiling the waters in this election and ensure Obama's victory. Perry's strength is being a good lackey – and he'll excel at being one even if it means he's making an ass of himself.
Not Another Bush...PLEASE!! I could not see having another totem Bush as a leader....that's just insane....do the same thing over and over and expecting different results.....we are toooooooooooooooooooooooooo smart America!!
While I think Perry is basically an idiot, he isn't lackey material, particularly for the Bushes. (They don't like each other.) He is the running dog of big interests with big campaign donations. Also, Bush didn't run for governor of Texas in 1990.
Dave C – Dubya defeated Ann Richards in 1994 and ran for re-election in '98. Perry ran for Lt Gov in 98 on Bush's coattails.
Why would Turkey even care what this fool has to say?
Unfortunately (or fortunately for both countries), the last time Turkey got an aid from the US was back in 80s under the Marshall plan which purported to help both Turkey and Greece. So out of the cope of this story, what you said holds credible as much as Perry can count up to three.
- Let's cut the foreign aid of Turkey!
- Ummm.. Sir we do not give them any aid. The last one was in 80s.
- I should take more B12 pills..!
Again, not true. We financed their military up until, and including, 2009. Please look up Foreign Military Financing on the Department of State website. Hint – you may not find it in Wikipedia.
This is getting tiresome but financing their military is something else, granting money to let countries buy our weapons is another. with same respect, many other countries in europe got that grant including poland, bulgaria, turkey, hungary, etc. this doesn't make turkey any different from your view. gosh i'm done with idiocy here.
Ah and forgot to say the unemployment in Turkey remains lower than us, with %8.3 compared to %8.5 just to show how money sucking ugly terrorists they are.
We provide aid to many other countries, but that's not relevant to this conversation. Foreign aid comes in many forms – cash, grants, weapons supply, building of infrastructure. At the end of the day, it's all aid. Admit that you're wrong and I will stop harassing you. You're a slippery thing, just like every politician out there. You're no better than Perry.
Is the method that Turkey uses to measure employment comparable to our method? Just asking since you know everything.
google "unemployment turkey" and then "unemployment usa", believe in searching... it's not that scary...
Please read the question again. Let's try to stay on point here. Since you did the research and since I have no idea what sources you referenced, I would like for you to walk me through the methodology each reference uses to measure unemployment in Turkey and the US respectively. It sounds like you're making stuff up again.
Turkey's data is from Eurostat, the official organization of European Union which measures such data in all over Europe, including Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Spain, Turkey, etc. So when you read news about Europe and it talks about unemployment in Europe giving exact figures as I did, you don't cry and pretend to be a dimwit saying "they are probably using something else". Both data figures are seasonally adjusted to make them the same. Now I understand what kind of people they were who applauded after Perry finished his answer...
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&tdim=true&fdim_y=seasonality:S&dl=en&hl=en&q=unemployment+usa
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z8o7pt6rd5uqa6_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=country:tr&fdim_y=seasonality:sa&dl=en&hl=en&q=unemployment+turkey
Alison, are you there? Hello? Hello?
I'm disappointed that Perry made such sinful comments on a Thanksgiving Tradition – No butterball for you buddy. Jesus is watching you sinner........
Amen, Robert. Fortunately, Perry is such an idiot that even the Republicans can see him for what he is: Bush's dumber brother.
I though that was Neil.
America, please, please elect him as President so we (Texas) can get rid of him. We will the secede from the U.S. and no longer have to suffer under him. By lampooning him you are foiling our master plan.
Did you know Rick Perry use to be a Democrat up until around 1990? He was until he realized he couldn't get elected for a higher office as a Democrat in Texas. He even supported Al Gore when he ran for President. Rick Perry is a narcissistic panderer. He will say or do anything to promote himself, his agenda, and to get elected. He really doesn't care about actually accomplishing anything substantial. He also voted for one of the highest tax increases in Texas history in the late 80's.
I keep expecting that Rick Perry will unzip himself and reveal Sarah Palin who will unzip herself and reveal Tina Fey
That would actually be a good thing. Tina Fey for president!
This is getting a bit more sjeibctuve, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like Mixview' that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you're listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of neighbors will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune Social is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.
So, only Democrats are "intelligent" enough to understand how Turkey uses its alliance with the West to hold off the Islamist forces trying to dominate it and every other country in the world.
What you say? Islamist forces are NOT trying to dominate the world? Are you sure? Look again...
The hatred, bigotry, and stereotyping of Republicans, conservatives, and Tea Party members displayed in these comments is amazing.
It just confirms the insanity of the left that will stop at nothing to maintain the status quo of growing government.
We are are $15 trillion in debt and have nothing to show for it other than a real 15% unemployment rate and an economy barely hanging on until the current laughably inept administration can be replaced.
Mitt Romney, while no conservative, will be the next President and will lead America to a more prosperous future.
As President Kennedy said, "A rising tide lifts all boats."
By your post it sounds like you agree with Rick Perry's comments. Tell me how many more trillions are you willing to spend when this failed foreign policy gets us into yet another undeclared war Mr. Constitution?
That is not true. I am calling you on your ignorance. Religious zealots believe that only their religion is the "right" religion. Catholics tried for centuries to eliminate all other religions. They tried very hard resulting in the murder of millions of people (example: inquisitions). Christian zealots believe only their religion is right and openly push forward their agenda to facilitate the rapture. Now, not all Catholics and Christians are zealots just as not all Muslims are terrorist nor believe everyone should be a Muslim. Most Catholics, Christians, and Muslims are good people that just want to live in peace with their neighbors. Problem is you don't hear the good these people do because that doesn't sell commercial time on 24 hour entertainment news like someone blowing up a bus full of innocent people.
I agree with your underlying point, but what "millions" did Catholics ever kill? That's absurd. The Spanish Inquisition killed about 1300 people. Bad to be sure, but nothing approaching millions.
Gleeb – Correct about the Spanish Inquistions. I was just using that as one example. Inquistions took place in many other countries for many, many years. Add that to crusades, South America, Africa, etc.
@Glebb Catholics killed tens of thousands during the Reformation, especially during the 30 Years' War in Germany and the 80 Years' War in Holland. Also, when Henry VIII's Catholic daughter Mary was on the throne before Elizabeth I, she became known as Bloody Mary for her persecution of Protestants. When Spanish and Portugese Catholics took over South America, they deliberately decimated the native populations. A number probably cannot be fixed for that. Even in America, there were religious wars, especially as Catholics from Italy, Ireland, and Poland immigrated. Protestants have proven just as bloodthirsty. That's why we have thew First Amendment.
As President Kennedy said, "A rising tide lifts all boats."
A rising tide?
As in 11 straight qtrs of economic growth?
Something you may want to ponder: more than 70% of our $15 trillion national debt was accumulated during the administrations of just three Presidents: Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush.
If it is true that we :"didn't get anything for it", well, now you know who to blame.
Does anyone get the feeling that Alison does all her research on Wikipedia while pounding Big Macs and Diet Cokes all day long? I do...
Jim – I think its just you. Her comments were articulate and informed...unlike your buddy Rick Perry. I know researching and knowledge are overrated for folks like you.
I am sorry to burst your bubble but someone has to speak the truths. This country has seen enough diversion of truths and I can no longer stay silent to crap like this. Face the truth, Turkey has been our longest ally in the nation, even when Rick Perry was 2 years old trying to walk (delayed development), Turkey was a member of NATO. They are the founding member of European Community and has provided the US a base on her land for years up to now. I'm talking with standing facts not cheap propaganda as some might be doing here. Not necessarily I support Obama or others but if it's time to speak about facts, here I am, like it or not, shove it up or not...
errata: -nation->region (i didn't want to overestimate your intelligence)
Now the BS comes out – "the founding member of the European community." Well done, Alison. You're one heck of a hypocrite. My lack of intelligence has nothing to do with your sloppy mistakes in your previous post. My guess is that Robert told you that 'nation' was not the correct word and hence your subsequent post.
Founding member of the EU? Not hardly. Our ally longer than any other country? Guess again. Check your history and facts about Turkey. They are lacking.
Try "European Council" Jim, but would be amazed if you had an idea what it stands for...
wd, you apparently don't know the difference between European Union, Council of Europe, European Economic Community, European Customs Union, etc. I would recommend reading Turkish ambassador's reply to Perry today and this could help you to get the basics: http://www.washington.emb.mfa.gov.tr/ShowAnnouncement.aspx?ID=141138
"Turkey is obviously not the same country that Governor Perry visited in the 1970s. As an accession country to the European Union and a founding member of the Council of Europe, Turkey has been continuously reviewing and enhancing the rights of all its citizens irrespective of their ethnic or religious background. Moreover, Turkey is now the 16th largest economy in the world, and the 6th biggest economy in Europe enjoying one of the most robust growth rates in its region and beyond. Its democratic standards, its economic strength, and its secular nature make Turkey an inspiration at a time when the Middle East and North Africa are undergoing a major transformation."
Give it up Alison. You're worse than all the flip-floppers out there. Seriously, you need a full-time fact checker looking at your posts. Articulate and informed? Hardly...
You said "founding member of the European Community". You weren't specific. For your information the Council of Europe is an is an entirely separate body from the European Union and, Unlike the EU, the Council of Europe cannot make binding laws.
You don't know how many bruises American have because of those who don't feel American. I tell you what, since you care for American enemies, hide them in your Womb. How many Women fought for America???!!!
wd, Council of European can indeed have legal instruments (conventions, charters, treaties, etc). Up to date, Council of Europe have drawn about 200 binding treaties. IAbout European Union, I didn't say anything about it. Please read it carefully, "european comminuity" a term represents the community in europe and Council of Europe was the first idea to unite all Europe together. http://www.coe.int/ Read by yourself, there is much to learn for you
Don't worry Alison; they are Republicans, so facts and comprehension of what they read is of no importance to them; personal "belief" is their substitute for research, reality and the truth.
If Rick Perry gets the nomination, then I will be leaving the country! Luckily it's a long shot...what an idiot!
Thank, GOD! That's the best news I've heard all day, Robert. Or should I say, Alison
Jim, move to Somalia – no government, no taxes, all the guns you can suck with your mouth. Tea Party wet dream territory.
That's a sensible aswner to a challenging question