January 3rd, 2012
11:37 AM ET

U.S. to Iran: We are staying

The Pentagon has responded to Iran's warning that the U.S. should stay out of the Persian Gulf region with a 'we aren't going anywhere' retort.  Pentagon spokesman George Little issued this statement moment ago (read also: Iran's new show of force):

Statement from Pentagon Spokesman George Little:

"The deployment of U.S. military assets in the Persian Gulf region will continue as it has for decades.

These are regularly scheduled movements in accordance with our longstanding commitments to the security and stability of the region and in support of ongoing operations.

These carrier strike group deployments are necessary to maintain the continuity and operational support to ongoing missions in the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility.

The U.S. Navy operates under international maritime conventions to maintain a constant state of high vigilance in order to ensure the continued, safe flow of maritime traffic in waterways critical to global commerce.

Our transits of the Strait of Hormuz continue to be in compliance with international law, which guarantees our vessels the right of transit passage. We are committed to protecting maritime freedoms that are the basis for global prosperity; this is one of the main reasons our military forces operate in the region."

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  1. Vishaal Shori

    I read your blog. I feel that a friendly discussion over the issues between the two may solve all the problems. Wars are not the solution of any problem.
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    June 25, 2012 at 10:05 pm | Reply
  2. Chancellor Palapatine

    Time to execute order 66 on the radical Islamic stooges in Iran.
    FOR THE REPUBLIC!!

    January 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Reply
  3. fagvilleinheaven

    gay-god willing within the next 20 years the world will be a different place free of american and european influence. so to make this happen i advocate for a bill at the UN which will guarantee a all out war betweek the western world vs. middle east allied with africa – let the blood spill so that i can fill my golden cup and then poor it slowly down my body as i listen to backstreet boys and as bieber gives it to me in the butt.

    January 22, 2012 at 7:26 am | Reply
  4. Dirk

    I never understood how people can say just talking to someone makes you look weak? I think an unwillingness to talk is a sign of weakness. If you're confident in your strategy, tactics, and who you are then who cares of the other person thinks? You can't control his or her actions anyway. He or she has to want to talk for there own reasons. As far as Iran is concerned if "talks" don't work out we have really big "guns" so I don't see the problem.

    January 18, 2012 at 9:30 pm | Reply
  5. Mike

    America is just like SEX.....somebody has to be on top....sorry Iran.

    January 17, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Reply
  6. zorpie

    Go for it America !! I think the Iran Government needs a bit of a shake up and a pre-emptive strike against the Iranian Navy would be great to see. They are pushing for it anyway and it won't be too long before the US needs to retaliate. We British were far too soft on them when they took British Military personnel as prisoners a few years ago and we allowed Iran to get away with that. I fully support and condone ANY US action against Iran naval harrassment in the Straits of Hormuz. They (the Iranian Government) really believe they can win the war !!! Their actions at present are flagrant abuse of International law in International waters and they are being allowed to get away with it. How long will the US tolerate this behaviour ?? Not for much longer I hope.

    January 13, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Reply
    • Mike

      Zorpie......we stand together with the Brits and the entire world should put an end to these shody Islamic Republics...if only Russia would lay the check book aside and think about future business without these extreme governments in place. We are all between a rock and a hard place when it comes to Iran....we will see how they stand once the bombing starts. Seems we all want to talk shit if your standing in the middle of a country and assume your protected. What ever became of that Ghadafi guy? Semper FI

      January 14, 2012 at 12:02 am | Reply
      • DPatriot

        Yeah

        January 19, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
    • phil

      zorpie you are bang on i totally agree with you 100%

      January 15, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Reply
    • Indrid Cold

      What all you "preemptive strike" advocate need to consider are the 2000 widely scattered Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles (IRBM's) that Iran has deployed. These weapons are equipped with new upgraded guidance systems that afford a much higher level of accuracy for their 1000lb high explosive warheads. At least half of them are targeted against vulnerable oil installations in the middle east. In the event of an attack by Israel or the US, Iran's military will fire all of these at once. Even with our best ABM systems, several hundred will get through. The price of oil will skyrocket to well over $300 a barrel, and US (to say nothing of European) businesses and economies will collapse. The oil installations will take months if not years to be rebuilt, but by then the world may have very well gone to full scale nuclear war in a fight for what oil was still available. So please everyone, THINK about the consequences before you start beating the drums of war.

      January 21, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Reply
    • had_it_up_to_here

      The USA will protect the shipping lanes and if/when the Iranians shoot at our ships they will be blown clear to the stone age,.... which is where many in their lunatic regime seem to aspire to.

      January 25, 2012 at 6:50 pm | Reply
    • Wayne

      Your right, and it would/will be over in seconds to minutes, Iran has no idea of the tech breakthroughts the US has done in the last few years. ONLY problem is......most of the people in Iran are good people and hate there controlers, we must protect these people at all costs.

      January 31, 2012 at 11:51 pm | Reply
      • sanchanim

        People don't realize our issue is not with the people of Iran it is with the government. Why do you think Israel and the US are not just jumping to military options. I truly believe that we love the Iranian people, I believe in them and their heritage, but their rulers are the issue. My only hope is that that any targeted actions limit innocent casualties.

        January 31, 2012 at 11:59 pm |
  7. SuckItIran

    Iran can su_k it!!!

    January 4, 2012 at 11:24 pm | Reply
  8. TheTruth

    America is looking for a push to invade Iran for stealing oil .Just

    like they invaded Iraq for oil by accusing them that they harboring

    nukes.But Now we know that it was just an American false propaganda for

    oil. USA now leaving Iraq by turning it in to a killing field.USA has

    no wright to finger point any country over nuclear issues becoz they

    are the only thugs to use nukes against mankind during ww2 and lot's of

    chemical agents in Vietnam.Not only that Americas war killing's and

    resulting collateral damages(by Drones etc) are far more staggering in

    total, than any other crimes in the world.not only that their

    technology is broadly used for trouble making,blood shedding and

    destabilizing the world.iran is not even sending their fishing boat in

    to the back yard of America.therefore usa should stay away and no more

    sanctions then iran will allow free flow of traffic in Strait of Hormuz

    by doing that US can prevent unneeded war. becoz oil prices will go sky

    high which will effect everyone in the world.(i dont know if my comments goning to be censored here)

    January 4, 2012 at 11:33 am | Reply
    • Daniel

      Actually if the Iranians were to close the strait it would really only hurt them and China. there are other Asian countries as well but most the the oil which passes through the strait does not go to the US or EU. So it might spike a little and then settle back down.
      The use of atomic weapons in WWII was a difficult decision however it ended the war and saved more lives than it took. I am not saying it was a great thing, but it is a past history.
      As far as collateral damage, Drone strikes and other types of weapons used today are very accurate. Sometimes others are hurt but given the operating environment, ie terrorists mixed in with civilians I would say they are doing a great job! As history shows in WWII US and allied bombers would wipe out whole cities. They destroyed many old buildings in Europe which had historical significance as well as causing mass civilian casualties. At the time it was the best technology anyone had. Now we can target a car, or a room in a specific building and you are complaining about collateral damage!
      As far as stealing oil and US propaganda. The Israeli Shin Bet and Mossad had stated to the US that Saddam Hussein had moved his chemical and bio warfare stock along with development equipment to Syria, about three months before the US invaded. It was squelched in the media as the government had spent a lot of time and effort gathering public support. I am glad he and his regime have been dismantled, but at the same time we have also learned.
      An example would be Libya. We used the Arab spring and internal uprising as an advantage. No troops were needed on the ground and the UN, NATO, and US took part in helping the uprising. It wasn't just the evil US as you so like to look at it.

      January 4, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Reply
      • Ray ray

        Daniel you seem to know you Politics fairly well.would you agree that Israel dictates what our government should do on a daily basis?

        January 11, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
      • Daniel

        Hi Ray ray,
        Actually to answer your question no. Israel has it's own agenda, just as much as the US has it's own agenda. Of course Israel is a strategic entry point into the middle east, much like Bahrain or Saudi Arabia. Ever since Israel became a state in 1947 the US and Israel have held a close relations. They haven't always seen eye to eye either.
        I lived in Israel for a number of years and met various heads of state there. I can say that dictating what the US does is not really on their mind. Internally they have enough to keep them busy. If there is policy, or actions by the US that directly affects Israel then they are much more critical and vocal about it.
        Israel's intelligence arm is also important. I am not talking abut drones or imagery but HUMINT. The US fights the intelligence war with one arm tied behind it's back.
        Israel doesn't have those types of constraints. In a round about way we can get processed intelligence from Israel when needed. Although it isn't free either...

        January 12, 2012 at 1:54 am |
    • Geez

      You've got to be kidding. We were attacked in WW2, so we nuked the agressors. What would you have us do? Send a herd of bomb-wielding camels into Japan? Better yet, how about doing what the Taliban do? We could strap bombs to kids and women and have them walk into the city.
      Don't lecture anyone about nukes from your mount. You've got the blood of your own countrymen to drown in.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Reply
    • PointingItOut

      While I appreciate the post, learn how to spell and use proper grammar before posting on the internet. I'll ignore them for now and attempt to further the dialog...

      More people have been killed in the name of religion than every atomic bomb ever dropped. It wasn't just the Christians but the Muslims as well. The people who label them as thugs are the ones on the losing side. "Oh they are bigger than us, have better technology, and an economy based on something other than fossil fuel" they must be bad. You're forgetting that Iran and all of these other governments are the ones profiting from the oil trade because they do not operate in a free market.

      The US is protecting its security interests by not backing down. Same thing with Iraq and Afghanistan. Unless I missed something, the US is not stealing oil and US companies are not the ones that own the oil wells in Iraq. It's a cool concept – invade a country and steal all of it's oil but you forget about the logistics of shipping and transportation and a little thing called the global market. If anything, the US is protecting the global market by not allowing Iran's leadership to disrupt the global supply of oil. Would you feel better if Israel did the patrolling instead of the US?

      Iran has every right to block their sovereign waters but has no right to blockade to sabotage the international aspects of the channel. Do not pass go, do not collect your barrel of oil is Tehran's swan dive and a political fiasco put on by someone looking for attention.

      January 4, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Reply
      • Rob

        That was maybe one of the most well thought out and factual responses I have ever heard on this.

        January 5, 2012 at 9:09 am |
      • Kevin

        Great post, only one thing though, the Straight of Hormuz is considered an international waterway. According to the Admiralty Laws, they cannot close it, just like the US cannot close off the Gulf of Mexico.

        January 24, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
      • Daniel

        @Kevin
        You are correct. Even though technically given that the Strait of Hormuz falls within the 12 mile international waters limit for a country, i.e. it is inside Iran and the UAE, it is considered an international strait. So under maritime law it is illegal to detain or harass ships passing in the strait. If a ship were to loiter for a long time within the strait it could be approached by a naval vessel for investigation but if it is under power and moving through the strait it needs to be left alone.

        January 24, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • Beware of False Prophets

      The real truth is that Iran is run by crazy Twelvers who want their precious Twelth Iman, or Mahdi, to return so badly, they're willing to stir up as much trouble as possible to make the conditions right for his return (i.e. a time of chaos, etc.). This includes making dirty deals with thugs like Chavez, seeking nuclear arms to attack Israel (their "little Satan," with a longterm goal of taking on their "big Satan," the USA). While claiming they "haven't attacked anyone," they have been supplying weapons and training to terrorists all throughout the Middle East and beyond, while seeking to become a superpower with global reach.

      It is interesting to note that the Shiites own description of their beloved Mahdi corresponds almost perfectly with the Bible's description of the Antichrist. Little wonder their current main target is the Jews, the chosen people of the Old Testament....

      January 5, 2012 at 10:34 am | Reply
    • johng

      your crazy and must be from iran

      January 5, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Reply
    • Ryan

      Shut up... Gas prices still suck and kept getting hire during iraq war... all you hippies seriously need to stop using the OIL excuse its old and over used... IRAN is wanting to block the strait which has plenty of oil shipping in and out, so yes we are going to defend what IRAN is trying to stop, and if IRAN does the unthinkable and throws the first stone, they to will fall and their leader will run and hide like a little girl...

      January 7, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Reply
    • Markpb2006

      If we had not used those nukes in WWII, we'd all be speaking Japanese or German right now. Before you fire off tangents, understand what you're saying. Also, where's all the oil from Iraq? There was significant Intelligence for WMD and at the time, Iraq was constantly threatening us. It doesn't take long to ove missiles, not to mention they had YEARS to do it because we were DIPLIMATICALLY trying to solve the issue with IAEA inspections, in which the Iraqi govt didn't allow for almost 2 years until the missles were moved. Know your facts before you spout "the truth". Your truth is another mans garbage!!!

      January 17, 2012 at 10:51 am | Reply
      • Doug

        you say its about oil. i didn't know we got a single barrel of oil from Iraq.

        January 17, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
      • A.R.

        We actually used the nukes against Japan after Germany had fallen and we were winning against Japan. It is widely agreed even by the American government that the use of nonconventional weapons in Japan was incorrect and immoral. That's not even up for debate unless we use false information (i.e. we would have lost the war without it or that it aided in defeating Germany). The only thing Hiroshima and Nagasaki accomplished was to verify the real world strategic uses of a fission device in real war conditions (hostile airspace, detonation in a crowded urban environment, etc.)

        As to the issue with Iran, it is within US interests (and several other countries' interests) to maintain a presence in an area where most of the oil passes through. It is within Iranian interests to prevent a confrontation with the US or Israel. Iran is not naive enough to block the Strait and the US isn't naive enough to "pre-emptively" strike Iran (as others have suggested) and further ruin its already tarnished reputation for starting illegal, unprovoked wars.

        As to the wider issue of Iran developing a nuclear capability. I highly doubt it as their uranium enrichment levels are so vastly low that they could only really use it for medical and energy purposes (nuclear plant needs 5% enrichment, some medical applications need about 25% enrichment, a fission bomb would require 80% enrichment at minimum, Iran's most enriched uranium is 20%). We have so much time to see if Iran is inching anywhere near weapons-grade material. Even if they did develop a nuclear weapon (assuming Israel or the US doesn't stop that), how would it be in Iran's interest to bomb Israel when it is unquestionable that the US, Israel, and the rest of the world would support retaliation against them which would ultimately, inevitably result in their total destruction? It's only purpose is to prevent an attack against them by Israel or the US. Also a "dirty" bomb is not even an option, dirty bombs are so limited in their ability to do damage and are more of a tool for mass hysteria.

        Also, we all need to understand that we haven't been getting the truth all along. I remember in 2008 several US officials and analysts and so-called "experts" claiming that Iran could develop a bomb within a year if they're unchallenged. It's been 4 years since then and they don't have a bomb. We also don't have hard evidence of high grade nuclear enrichment, if we did we'd be much farther down the path to war. It's only in the absence of evidence (à la Iraq) that we would spend this much time banging the war drums and gaining support (and we're doing a good job of it seeing the comments on any Iran related article on CNN) rather than quickly mobilizing against an almost-nuclear Iran when there's clear evidence that they will have a weapon and will use it to attack Israel.

        But hey what do I know, why not throw several trillion dollars at another unprovoked, illegal war, it's not like we don't have the budget to do so, right? And when it comes to public support, the American proletariat could not be more like that which Orwell and Huxley prophesied (think of "Eastasia" and "Eurasia") just gobbling up the bullshit that we're fed because as Americans, we are stuck in a mindset of accepting information from well-dressed politicians as concrete fact, shrugging our shoulders and saying "things are what they are" when in reality we should be thinking "what if things aren't what they seem?".

        That's just my 2 cents. This rant went much farther than I planned haha.

        January 17, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
      • A.R.

        Also MarkPB, I think you should see the picture of Donald Rumsfeld shaking Saddam Hussein's hand a couple decades ago. We essentially gave them the green light for their WMD program to use them against Iran. Iraq was not a serious threat to us at any time and when you look at the death figures, a majority of the deaths were civilian in Persian Gulf War 2.

        This only further proves the relation between Orwell's proles and the American populace (that's us). We were allied with Iraq and for really no good reason (not due to regime change, not due to their change in stance towards the US, etc.) we decide they're not our friends anymore and the American people do too. PGW2 was the largest psychological operation this world has ever seen and we're only trying to break a record with the build up to a US-Iran conflict.

        January 17, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • S. Turk

      I really don't care what pretense the US uses to wipe the Iranian navy, and airforce off the face of the earth, just do it!

      January 18, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Reply
    • Joker

      You sir, are an idiot!

      January 24, 2012 at 8:32 am | Reply
    • had_it_up_to_here

      Do us all a favor and be on one of those boats that fires on the US fleet in the strait.

      Present yourself as our enemy and you WILL be destroyed.

      (This is the only sort of political dialogue that seems to get through to tyrannical, repressive regimes such as yours).

      January 25, 2012 at 7:01 pm | Reply
  9. JustSayin

    America has the best of the best and is the best of the best. We have the worlds strongest military...we have the worlds largest economy and will remain a world power. All you people who hate America...get over it!...your obsession with us is creepy!

    January 4, 2012 at 9:47 am | Reply
    • phil

      i think the usa are the best nation in the world all this propaganda for oil is complete utter lies people saying saddam didnt have weapons of mass distruction well what did he gas is own people with before u comment on these issues get the facts right

      January 4, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Reply
  10. asp

    i live in iran,i cant understand that my american brothers say sth like this...before Revolution,we were allied and iran's army was Fifth in the world,but what my government do is not what my people do...if we cover our government is only for our COUNTRY...dont forget we were allied...
    please search about the last shah of iran: "mohammad reza pahlavi" and dont forget we were friend...and dont forget that my people love persian land...

    January 4, 2012 at 5:10 am | Reply
    • reality

      IIts because of people like Shahs and Sauds that middle east is still enslaved by foreigners.

      January 4, 2012 at 8:35 am | Reply
    • Sayan Majumdar

      Nobody harbours any grievance towards the Iranian population in general, Persian culture is one of the finest.

      However the successive Iranian leadership for last few decades have been obstinate and tactless enough to antagonise a significant proportion of Middle Eastern nations.

      Sayan.

      January 4, 2012 at 8:58 am | Reply
      • reality

        What ? Iran never attacked any countries like other countries of world.

        January 4, 2012 at 9:10 am |
      • reality

        America is doing in middle east what British used to do in India 200 years ago, Divide and rule, install puppets and steal the resources(Oil) and money (Junk Weapon sale).

        January 4, 2012 at 9:12 am |
    • Daniel

      I don't think anyone has an issue with the Iranian people by and large. It is the government and their policies and stance towards western countries and Israel. Their defiant behavior towards requests from the UN and IAEA for stopping enrichment programs, and their secretive manner in which they continue to operate their nuclear program.
      The Iranian people spoke out against the government not to long ago and many were killed, or taken to jail. The Iranian government is the issue. If they had been open about their nuclear technology and requested from the IAEA help and guidance with full transparency then no one would have an issue.
      They continue to use threatening words, and the statements made by government officials is destabilizing the region, or at least annoying the heck out of it's neighbors.
      Religious extremism and totalitarianism has no place in government. We have seen the uprisings in Libya, Egypt, and Syria as examples.
      If Iran continues it's course with military action within the strait or it's nuclear program at some point something will have to give. Unfortunately the people of Iran can't do anything about it or they are imprisoned or killed for speaking out with alternatives.
      The issues we are seeing across the middle east are by and large an internal problem with Muslims. The faith based driven governments are stuck in the 14th century with no way to modernize themselves. Following the 9/11 attacks there was a great discussion regarding the Muslim issue. It was led by Muslim reporters and scholars from around the middle east. What we are seeing in the countries now is an internal uprising from it's own people, they want change they want to get into the 20th century, and they will get there. It won't happen overnight and there will be resistance. We can see that now with Al Quida moving into Libya as one example.
      I think the peoples resolve will win in the long run. As economic and social changes improve their lives over time they will reject extremism for a better life for themselves and their families.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Reply
  11. ram

    I recall Egypt closing the Suez canal 50 years ago. The suez runs in Egypts lands. The Strait of Hurmoz (half of the navigable portion in width) comes under the jurisdiction of Iran. Just like the Cuban/usa area, Cuba has a certain miles out to sea and usa has a certain miles out to sea. Now why cant Iran close their half of the width? Are you so bellicose that only warships and guns can be a logical solution? You should be very upset that your President Hoover allegedly sold out america's finances to the rich banks. He literally gave them the key to the treasury and said run it boys. Now every american thinks the federal reserve is money in the bank owned by the federal government. Wrong.....owned by the very few rich banks and they take your own money that has grown from that time and lend it to you with interest. Big interest during wars and none during peacetime. This is what you should be thinking of when you type in "nuke 'em" LOL, Allah is evil, radical muslims should be annihilated etc. Dont you have any radicals/crooks in america?

    January 4, 2012 at 4:13 am | Reply
    • Big Country

      Your reply to the article went from Territorial Waters to Crooks in America. Nice focus.

      January 4, 2012 at 5:47 am | Reply
    • Game settler

      The U.S. Navy has every right to those water ways. Iran only owns the portion from land on either side leaving a 2 mile gap of international water for international transit. Those waters are protected for a reason and cannot be interfered with. Just thought I'd throw it out there.

      January 4, 2012 at 6:27 am | Reply
    • Daniel

      The official shipping lanes for the strait of hormuz move through both territories of Iran and Oman based upon the 12 nautical mile limit for territorial waters. Those limits are extended if there is an island and starts from the outermost island.
      However!!!
      Based upon United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) the ships both military and civilian have a right to pass unhindered. In this instance it is a tight channel and passing into territorial waters in unavoidable. The Iranian Navy has every right to patrol and maintain a state of reediness however they do not have a right to board, or hinder passage of vessels which are not loitering in the area. Doing so would be considered an act of aggression.
      As far as closing the Suez Canal it is a closed water way owned and operated by Egypt. Similar to the panama canal. By closing it there way no need for any military action they simply did not admit any ships to the canal. BTW this hurt them as well as ships pay a lot of money to pass through the canal. They of course stopped that revenue as well, but their point was made. The strait is not a closed water way, and still falls under international law.
      For a complete history go here: http://strait-of-hormuz.com/content/view/3/4/

      January 4, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Reply
      • Doug

        Third3ye5, get a life , if it wasn't for us you wouldn't even have a place to post your comments. that in itself makes us better then Iran
        .

        January 4, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
  12. H. (Bart) Vincelette

    From Canada: Good for America, for standing up to this theological tyrant & dictator. Iran will never have the right to say where & when US military forces carry out operations. Their pursuit of nuclear weapons flies in the face of any claims of seeking nuclear options for energy.

    January 3, 2012 at 11:21 pm | Reply
    • ram

      Your country is going to be a part of the usa soon, young man! Your prime minister acts like a Republican and tries to emulate george bush both in words and deeds, he proposes penal systems like the 3 strikes in Arizona, your police cars are being changed to black and white, like the ones used by Boss Hoggs' guys, the americans have your flying lists, who what why where, they have all your insurance information, they have all your credit card information and the conservative government is being pushed into the direction of one continent, one country.....Railroad from Yukon to Panama, all controlled by the yankees. Iran has the right to develop nuclear capabilities. France, Britain, America all have bombs...It was the american bomber the Enola Gay that bombed thousands of sleeping Japanese, not one but twice. On the night, Elizabeth S was found in Utah after allegedly been kidnapped, she was on a talk show celebrating the one white girl's return & life and in that self-same night, the yankees were bombing thousands of Iraqi childeren to death. I personally trust the Iranians more than the yankees.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:13 am | Reply
      • Chris

        To all of you that support the Iranian government, you are just as pathetic as they are. I am an American and proud of it. I may not agree with what my government does 100%, but at least I don't have to worry about being arrested by my government for speaking out. As far as the Iranian government and military goes, they are just as pathetic. Most of the Iranian military might is junk (old military US hardware left over from the Shah's regime or crap from N. Korea). I have seen some of their newest technology, including their new drone missle (looks like something from WW II....I call it the Green Weenie) and their stealth one-man air-boats (just a skiff with a propeller and painted black....give me a break). Our own Secretary of Defense, Paneta, said that there are two "Red Lines" that the Iranians must not cross. 1) Iran is NOT to develop a nuclear weapon and 2) Iran is NOT to close the Straits of Hormuz. If they do, well it will be game on with us and they will loose in a very big way.

        Why is it that when topics such as this are being debated that some idiot (usually those in favor of the radicals) always bring up the fact that the United States is the only country that has used a nuclear device against another country. Do some history research before you spout off about this. The Japanese military was ruthless and it had to be stopped. If we had invaded Japan, many more civilians would have died (upwards of 1,000,000). Some dolt wrote that we bombed those cities when people were sleeping. Again, know your history before you speak. Those were daylight bombing missions. Another person wrote that we backed down when Russian invaded Georgia. So, you want a REAL nuclear war I suppose? Appropriate response from a not-knowing idiot. BTW....who backed down during the Cuban missle-crisis? The former Soviet Union, thats who. Yes, we were defeated in Viet-Nam but only because our politicians ran that war. Had our generals been allowed to run it, we would have taken care of business the right way (Know your enemy, find your enemy, kill your enemy). The United States left Iraq on its own accord, not with its tail between its legs. We were prepared to stay in Iraq many, many more years if necessary. And now Afghanistan.....we are still there and still killing the Taliban towel-heads on a daily basis. Yes, we and our allies still loose our own in that God forsaken place but in the end it will be the radicals that come out on the sh!tty end of the stick.

        So back to Iran and its supporters. You'd best know that we, The United States of America, we do what is necessary to defend ourselves, our allies, and the free world from your tyrannical regime. Count on it.

        January 20, 2012 at 7:21 am |
  13. uhadit

    The Ugly Swines Of America will not keep their words "WE ARE HERE TO STAY" thats what they told the South Vietnames, Lebanones, Iraqis, Afghans but on the first sight of defeat these coward christians crusaders fled from Vietnam, Lebenon, Iraq, leaving their allies in deep trouble & now these Fanatic christain scumbags are trying to flee from Afghanistan defeated from backdoors what a shame, the American coward christain crusaders should drown themselves in their own URINE.

    January 3, 2012 at 10:12 pm | Reply
    • ruemorgue

      HAHAHAHAH. Nice try, Pig-fat-eater !!! Allah wears a Tutu and Mohammed swallows hot-dogs.

      January 3, 2012 at 10:17 pm | Reply
      • ViolatorUSA

        now now now....lets get it right......Allah is wearing the thong and pasties and mohamad is in the rearless chaps with the leather hat and vest.........

        January 3, 2012 at 10:37 pm |
      • Daniel

        HAHAHA ok the visual on that just made me vurp!!!!

        January 3, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
      • ram

        You are saying that God wears a tutu. I dont know hat a tutu is, but I think that you do not realize that Allah is a direct translation of the word God, Allah is not different from God, neither is he different from the god called Deus(latin), not the god called Dios(spanish) , or the god called Dieu, (french) or the god called Yawa (I think this is Hebrew). However, this god with many names (languages) does not change with the country he is dealing with. I am a christian and I believe that if I am in church and I say Allah, I am speaking to the same God. The only god that is different is the one living in the southern united states, who in his wrath, destroyed the economy of the entire globe with one swipe of his wand.

        January 4, 2012 at 2:25 am |
      • NukemaLL99

        Allah and mohamad are no match for the Great Uncle Sam.

        January 4, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Daniel

      I think you miss understood the quote. The fifth fleet is based out of Bahrain, and has been there for years. It is a stones throw away from the strait of Hormuz. Their comment is such. We are continuing normal operations based out of Bahrain and will continue to sale in and out of the strait of Hormuz as normal and unhindered. It isn't bullying Iran or anyone, but rather continuing to do what they have always done in the region.
      It would be something else if the US sent or battle groups to the area, but they haven't and honestly they won't need to. Any aggression from Iran would be met with swift action, whether directed at the US navy directly or any non military ship which comes under distress. That is the law of international waters, just like the pirates in Somalia, the Iranian Navy will be dealt with appropriately.

      January 3, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Reply
    • Rob

      You must be a friggin moron to spout off like that. We could kick the shit out of Iran with little or no effort. I don't care what those racist thugs claim they can do or threaten to destroy when it comes down to it the only thing the Iranian military can do and have any succsess at is slaugtering its own civilians so they don't start thinking for themselves and get rid of those crazy war mongering racist leaders they have and have some real alligence with the rest of the world that would love to help Iran build a thriving democracy and carry the torch of freedom to the rest of the middle east. The U.S. has never run from a fight and has never shyed away from a fight if it meant keeping the world safe from despots who think they can rule the world threw fear of force. Also I would like to point out America is a nation that excepts all religions and many Muslums, Jews, and Christians fight side by side to protect a country they all love and share. We are not on a christian crusade we are fighting to protect ourselves from cowards hide bombs in kids underware and fly planes into buildings because they cant bare to face somone who will fight back and knock them on their ass.

      January 3, 2012 at 11:45 pm | Reply
      • ram

        Check out to see if you still have a soul. America ran away from Vietnam after the cutlass wielding, eating once a week out of a rice bowl foot soldiers of North Vietnam overran south Vietnam. I remember this very well..how they disappeared from the scene with their helicopters, saving only their stooges from roof-tops...they are now disappearing from Iraq and Afghanistan in failure. They have left every country they allegedly helped to win the war against the enemy, in shambles. Iran will survive and have the right to bear arms. The cowboys of america carried arms, americans are allowed to carry arms, Britain, Israel, France, India, Pakistan et al arae allowed to have nuclear capabilities,,,,why not Iran...who is God of this world. I surely dont believe it is an american.

        January 4, 2012 at 2:36 am |
      • reality

        America fighting Iran is like some adult beating neighbors kid, its criminal.

        January 4, 2012 at 8:25 am |
    • allahgobblesdong

      Allah hates the middle east. Now please suicide bomb yourself in a field away from everything.

      January 4, 2012 at 12:44 am | Reply
      • ram

        You are saying that God hates the middle east. Allah is a translation of the word God. In the bible and in sunday school, all are taught "God is Love" and "God loves everyone" Perhaps the bible wielding South K...'s spies did not appear at your door to correct you. Or maybe you think that the bible was referring to america as the promised land.

        January 4, 2012 at 2:49 am |
      • reality

        Yeh That's why you beg for oil from middle east.

        January 4, 2012 at 8:21 am |
    • reality

      These cowards just bully and take advantage of weak and defenseless people, They just wet their pants when countries like Russia or China face them. They were not even to save their ally Georgia when Russia attacked that country couple of years ago.

      January 4, 2012 at 8:21 am | Reply
    • JustSayin

      America has the best of the best and is the best of the best. We have the worlds strongest military...we have the worlds largest economy and will remain a world power. All you people who hate America...get over it!...your obsession with us is creepy!

      January 4, 2012 at 9:38 am | Reply
    • singing loud

      Actually we arent running weve just given up on helping your countries. How can you help a country or people who destroy themself from within and blame it on those there to help them. In my time spent overseas I realized that if we were playing as an occupying force, that your countries would have imploded and collapsed upon themself long ago. We arent in any country in the name of religion so your argument is pathetic...

      January 10, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Reply
    • Chris

      Will you please stop with the 14th centiury crusader crap. It is getting very old numbnuts.

      January 20, 2012 at 7:25 am | Reply
    • had_it_up_to_here

      If I remember correctly the war Iran had with Iraq lasted 8 years ending in a stalemate. And I think the US took the better part of a long weekend to drive Saddam out of his palace and into hiding in a hole in the ground. If Iran were to attack the US fleet in International waters a Hell like you have never seen will be unleashed upon you and you will be with your God in a very short time.

      January 25, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Reply
  14. Keith

    Iran used to be one of our advesaries. When I was in the Navy at Submarine Base Groton Ct, we were training Iranians in Submarine school and selling them our old outdated diesel subs. If there are still using them they are in big trouble.

    January 3, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Reply
    • Daniel

      I believe they are plus they have a couple of Kilo class Russian subs which are the diesel electrics. Those things make so much noise you can here them underwater at least from miles away. Their short range ships do have anti ship missiles and of course they have their mine laying ships, but not much beyond that. They could certainly sink a few oil tankers but that kind of action would be the first punch in a battle they can not win.

      January 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm | Reply
      • Chris

        As I said, outdated military junk from the United States and former Soviet Union with some additional N. Korean junk. Yeah, they might get in a lucky shot or two if this little contest goes hot, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be some poor Iranian deck swabby if it does.

        January 20, 2012 at 7:30 am |
    • ram

      During the reign of E1 in Britain, the British navy with units no bigger than today's small fishing boats, whipped the well armed, bigger, better, more financed Spanish Armada. IEDs today are stopping the multi-billion arms supermachinery deadcheck on its track. Outdated guns in Afghanistan have kept the enemy with "shoot from the heavens" technology at bay. Canada witrh its soldiers bearing outdated muskets, living in tents and igloos, and whose professions were mostly that of being trappers of wolves and seals, whipped the United States over a century and a half ago and went all the way to washington, man. And of course, Vietnam. The only time the united states ever won any battle was in Grenada, over just a handful ofcarousing (laugh) soldiers.

      January 4, 2012 at 2:59 am | Reply
      • cp in pa

        Canada invaded the US in 1850?? I dont seem to remember hearing about that. Mohammed the prophet eats pork and is a pedophile. Where is that picture I just drew of him.....damn.

        January 4, 2012 at 10:58 am |
  15. ToughEnough

    While the threats go back and forth, big oil in the middle east and big oil here in the US make more and more money as the price of oil ratchets up. Just a play on the big stage to transfer money from the "poor to the super rich.

    January 3, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Reply
  16. Sayan Majumdar

    Little the Iranian officials realise that USS John C. Stennis (CVN74) aircraft carrier battle group (CVBG) will be more secure and effective in the open oceans OUTSIDE Persian Gulf.

    Considerable proportion of Iranian counter force and counter value (including nuclear installations) remain within striking distance of F/A-18E/F Super Hornet strike fighters and ship and submarine launched Tomahawk cruise missiles.

    Sayan.

    January 3, 2012 at 6:58 pm | Reply
    • Daniel

      This is what stra8vision and I have been saying! For all intense and purposes they have taken a strategic position off the coast. Simple enough. they can patrol and monitor the trait from right where they are.

      January 3, 2012 at 7:05 pm | Reply
      • Chris

        Let us not forget that there are one or more unseen US Trident subs close by too.....probably lurking just off the coast of Iran. They wouldn't know what hit them until after it hit them. I just don't understand their thinking. Really, I don't. Someone please explain it to this old fart.

        January 20, 2012 at 7:34 am |
  17. Tariq

    As the USA likes to intimidate and raise tensions by regularly holding military drills in the Persian Gulf. Perhaps the Iranian Navy will start holding there drills off the coasts of major American cities. Perhaps once American citizens are frightened by the idea of the Middle Eastern superpower having a major naval presense off there coasts then the American people will demand its government come to its senses.

    Iran will have a major Naval base in Venezuela and will be regularly patrolling the Carribean to maintain peace and security for its interests. Iran is a superpower whether USA accept it or not.

    January 3, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Reply
    • Mike

      It really depends on what you consider a Major Naval Base? Am I to understand that the Irainians along with Chavez could influence the Carribean waters? I think the Soviets tried that in Cuba a while back and it didn't work too well. We can be assured that by the time we are done with the Iranian Navy it would be lucky to muster a few shrimp boats to patrol our American waters. Good Luck.

      January 3, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Reply
    • Daniel

      Uhm ok within international waters why not? Oh yeah it is hard for the Iranian navy to show up on the US doorstep... The fuel and supplies needed to put any type of force off the coast of the US would not be financially feasible for Iran, training or otherwise... In other words they would get there with their tanks on empty. To top it off it is wide open ocean. Most of the ships for Iran are short range smaller ships. It doesn't make sense.
      Go read up on Naval combat and tactics, understand what it takes to supply ships, and those who run them then come back and re-post!

      January 3, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Reply
    • Sayan Majumdar

      May I know what kind of warships the Iranian Navy (consisting of mainly “short legged” vessels) is capable of deploying in Venezuela?

      And do not ever expect Hugo Chavez to provide a permanent base to the Iranian Navy in the Venezuelan soil. That guy is sly enough to restrict his United States bashing to heated words and will never threaten United States security in practice.

      Sayan.

      January 3, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Reply
      • Daniel

        @ Sayan
        I am hopping it will let me post the url:
        http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/ships.htm
        Most of the ships are near shore or in shore patrol boats.
        Most of the electronics and firing systems on these ships are 20+ years old. The newer torpedo or anti ship missile boats are short range at best. The entire Iranian navy is designed for patrolling inside the straits of Hormuz. Most the the technology is aimed at anti ship capabilities.
        The US navy is designed as a global reach. This means they can be anywhere at anytime, and that isn't just anti ship technology. It is designed for cruise missiles, aircraft, Helicopters, ground forces, etc.
        Also the bulk of the fleet was shifted in 1977 to Bandar-e Abbas which is very close to the strait of Hormuz. Easy pickings for guided air strikes. For what to use just take your pick. You have tomahawk, harpoon, skipper.
        The tomahawk has the best range at 450 km though.
        So in the case of Iran they are the fish in a barrel.

        January 3, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • Amarican

      Iran isnt anything but a bunch of camel jockies just like Iraq was and theyll never be a super power looks like you need to do some research on what a real super power is

      January 3, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Reply
    • Rob

      I dont think Iran has enough ships in its navy to challange 1 U.S fleet let alone all 6 togather. Iran cant be a superpower because to be a superpower you cant be a third world country that has to kill its people to keep them in line. No country messes with our neck of the woods because they know they cant beat us. If Iranian ships did show up in American waters near any major city the people would get front row tickets to one of the greatest ass kicking fiestas in the last 100 years.

      January 3, 2012 at 11:51 pm | Reply
    • ram

      and when the chinese start drilling for oil out of the shores of Cuba, they will have a military (navy) posting in Cuba to pprotect their interests...wow, the world is round and what goes around, comes around.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:05 am | Reply
    • Sodoff Wanker

      Put down the hashish...if Iran is a superpower, I'm as rich as Carlos Slim Helu. The Iranian Navy is NOT a blue water Navy. It takes more than a foreign base for a navy to have international capabilities. How would Iranian Admirals communicate with ships halfway across the world? How would they rotate forces? How would navy ships get maintenance with no indigenous support? Use your brain and THINK instead of believing the propagandistic crap Iran puts out.

      January 4, 2012 at 8:55 am | Reply
    • Chris

      Iran a superpower anywhere is a pipe-dream. They want to play hardball with us but they don't have the ballz to do it. Neither does Chavez.

      January 20, 2012 at 7:36 am | Reply
  18. sissyphuz

    Iran is begging for attention, in retrospect. It's blatantly obvious that their intentions are to incite the U.S. into a sparing match. I know it sounds bad but, I am not completely opposed to the U.S. Govt. taking a swing at Iran. Iran is a pest and should be treated as such. America needs to grow a pair and stoop worrying so much about the world's view of us. It's already tarnished at this point. So why bother maintaining a positive world critique? Just grab Iran by the throat and choke it out. You won't kill it... But you will definitely embarrass it in front of it's peers.

    January 3, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Reply
    • Jaieman

      I believe you are correct. This country has gone too far with trying to be polite and nice. Grab them by the throat and let them know that we are not Kuwait or torn down Iraq. We are the MIGHTY US of A. We shouldnt tolerate anyone trying to bully us around. This has gone too far. We need to show the rest of the world that we are in charge and always will be. For those who try to step up and attempt to bully or scare us. We will unleash the all mighty US Military and show them that we are not going to put up with their non sense. that is the way it used to be and that is the way it should be.

      January 3, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Reply
      • ram

        O mighty USA, dost thou lie so low, are all they conquests, glories shrunk to this measure:
        1.5 Trillion debt by a free enterprise, democratic mighty country (member of the G5) with the alleged biggest economy in the world, borrowed from a communist, not so free enterprise, asian country that the world despises because of their success.
        Greatest percentage of citizens in jail compared to other western countries
        The seat of its industrial complex is so run down, a chinaman can buy out the whole of Detroit and Cleveland with a barter of one shipload of lead-riddles toys

        January 4, 2012 at 3:11 am |
      • PointingItOut

        @ram Everyone is getting off topic here, but you don't seem to like the US nor do you actually know anything. Oh yes, the US has the greatest percentage of citizens in jail, no one would deny that but that's because the definition of legality is so different from the rest of the world. You probably wouldn't understand that since honor killings, bribery, and poverty are so prevalent in the middle east that there is no legal leg to stand on in jailing anyone nor is there the infrastructure to support it. I guess I shouldn't point out the woman who was put in jail for being raped? For her own protection....right!

        Alleged biggest economy? Run down industrial complex? Maybe I missed something but the US is still the biggest economy. I sense a bit of jealousy and since all your other posts are hateful/racist I'll return the favor. You take any nation, outside of N Korea, and you will find a wide spectrum of affluence as represented by its cities. I won't even take a stab in comparing the affluence of what ever country you are originally from to the united states because you will be embarrassed.

        While I don't agree with US foreign policy as a whole, in the case of Iran i fully stand behind them. Ahmadinejad is a jerk, plain and simple. If you've ever listened to an educated debate by the man you'd be dumbfounded at what he says. I'd insert a racist comment about the average level of education in that country but I'd also be insulting the students that tend to resit him, even after death threats to them. Everything Iran does is for attention, I'm just hoping that in this case they get what they are asking for – to stand toe to toe with the United States.

        Regarding the wars which the US has been involved in, I think you're missing the point. For instance, leaving a country in shambles upon exit – isn't that the point? Where is it dictated that the invading country has to provide ANY monetary support? Oh right, the US entered Iraq, defeated the ENTIRE military in less than a month and only exited recently after spending b(tr)illions of dollars on the Iraqi economy. People seem to forget that the US is not a single entity and I applaud the man who said earlier that the people disagree with the government – the problem is, he probably can not openly disagree with the government without retaliation.

        To be honest, I could care less about a lot of these countries and modern conflicts. EVERY time, it is a leader looking to expand his power using 'american swine' as the scapegoat to do what ever they feel like. I feel bad for civilian killings in conflict areas but I'd argue that's no worse off than before any occupation. While the US isn't 'God', it has a right to protect itself against threats. A major threat to the US are these nations who thrive on terrorism as a form of rule (Iraq, Iran, Taliban) and the idea of them suddenly having the strike capability of destroying a whole city. They are volatile in regime changes and have not matured to the effect that they play nicely with other countries in an open forum. Iran's nuclear ambitions would be moot if the country was not consistently in the spotlight for distancing itself from the rest of the world. The fact of the matter is, if Iran had nuclear strike capabilities they would effectively be able to influence the entire region in addition to more than likely providing the technology to a terrorist group to strike the 'american swine'.

        The US comes off as a jerk in all of this because it's military is so much more advanced than Iran's but the truth of the matter is, it still needs to protect its security interests abroad. FYI the cuban missle crisis happened because the Soviet Union was transporting missles not because of a security detail. Assuming Chinese assets were deployed in Cuba, it would be no different than the US presence in Japan or South Korea

        January 4, 2012 at 10:36 am |
  19. Jes

    One US Carrier Task Force could take Iran out of commission. Iran is nothing more than the little engine who can't.

    January 3, 2012 at 3:55 pm | Reply
    • ram

      That does not mean that Iran is wrong and you are right.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:41 am | Reply
  20. Pekpek

    Just bomb the Iranian Navy and we will see their Navy personnel running away and crying...wahhh.....

    January 3, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Reply
    • sambo

      send O bu m er to bow and extend his hand. watch the Persian simatar cut it off. We need a strong public statement not "you run along now sonny"

      January 3, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Reply
  21. TrollDetector9000

    Ttriac is most likely an American who is just trying to get attention trolling on the internet. But if he's not then i will just say America has done some bad shit but not as bad as other countries, would you rather live in China or have China spread their form of Government?

    January 3, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Reply
    • reality

      There is justice in Chinese system but there is only favoritism in American system.

      January 4, 2012 at 8:31 am | Reply
    • Ahmed

      Dear BettyThanks for your question. There are lots of poveitsis here, gaining experience in commercial work will stand to you. Moving to straight acting can be at times difficult but most definitely not impossible (Milla Jovovich). I would suggest trying to get a few short films under your belt, maybe fringe theatre or attend one of the larger theatre open days (this maybe aged restricted though). I would also suggest keeping up the commercial work as your working with directors who maybe looking to shoot straight drama projects ..and your paying the bills.

      June 28, 2012 at 9:44 pm | Reply
  22. Ttriac

    Saddam sells oil in Euro's in 2000 gets invaded, Gadaffi proposes to trade oil in alternative currency golden dinar and gets bombed, In 2007 Iran stopped trading oil in dollars.. looky here there is a pattern emerging Without oil to back ur useless paper money ur evil empire will collapse. You dont live within your means, you dont produce anything you buy products from countries with your own useless paper yet they are poor and u are rich ur economy is run on speculation u have a 60 trillion dollar unregulated derivatives bubble...Yeah ur free keep telling urselves ur free, keep telling urselves that ur government works for you at least we here in poor countries know when our government screws us. Go ahead destroy another country strengthen ur currency put off the inevitable for just a bit more of that Federal reserve printed heroin. When u crash it will happen overnight just like the USSR the difference being we are used to having power outages no security and no jobs you are fat and soft and cant do anything without a calculator or a computer get ready to eat dirt with the rest of us the Russians and the Chinese already agreed to trade with their national currencies within the BRICS by 2018 and ur leaders can only watch in terror and they know whats coming hence they take more of ur freedom away bit by bit ur president just approved the NDAA..good riddence scumbags you will not be missed

    January 3, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Reply
    • JGRAVIS

      what country do you presently live in?

      January 3, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Reply
      • Mike

        Ttriac, quit crying about our worthless currency...seams that we haven't been trading any Iranian coins at my bank lately. You guys for the most part are violent and if you cannot have it your way it always personnal. If you want to be a parts of the real world so be it. If not ....there always your destiny ...with Allah!

        January 3, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • colateymy

      Someone seems a little upset they don't live in America.

      January 3, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Reply
      • Ttriac

        Oh yeah I;m soo mad im not American! Please give me fat skanky bitches eating cheeseburgers destroy my culture! I yearn for more freedoms please please spread some more freedom dust! I could give a shit about America I worked hard and I dont have a stake in ur stupid system. Your blatant hypocrisy however does strike a nerve for a country that labels itself the land of the free u people are criminaly negligent about what ur elected government does. And Mike buddy ur a silly little child the global trade of oil in USD was agreed during after the Bretton Woods accords when all other European currencies where devalued due to WW2, the US dollar isnt backed by anything not gold not the sum total of goods ur country produces its strong because everyone knows that u can buy resources from Russia and the M.E with it and computers from China with it. U created a systemic liquidity crisis where in short there is way more money than there is stuff in the world too bad u can colonize Mars and loan out credit to the Martians huh ? I'm done here I just pray that you reversee ur course but ofcourse I know better.

        January 3, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
      • Mike

        Ttriac....now you stay away from that suicide vest in the closet. Everything will be okay..its just talk....we still love ya!

        January 3, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
      • josh

        i think we should invite this poor soul out for an ice cold budweiser

        January 3, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
    • Chris, Austin

      Okay, hahaha, take it easy. Here's a few points – for Russia and China to trade their currencies honestly on the open world market and allow them to be valued as a commodity is a good thing. These growing economies should take the escalation in currency value that goes along with increasing wealth. And if you take the Russian economy – $1.8T GDP – and the Chinese economy – $5.5T GDP – add them together, and double them, that is still barely equivalent to US GDP alone – $14.5T. Do you understand? The US economy is twice the Russian and Chinese economies combined. So, I think a little healthy – and honest – competition is a good thing for all concerned. I don't think we'll be eating dirt just yet.

      As to our leaders being unaccountable, check the news out of Iowa. We are constantly changing out or elected representatives, and they are constantly falling all over themselves trying to find a way to hold onto power, because they have to answer to us. Yes, there's a lot of money skewing the system, and yes a lot of them are phony-baloney individuals, but they can't put me in jail for going online and saying they're phony-baloney individuals, and I get to vote them out of office in a system that has held regular, free, and competitive elections for more than two centuries.

      As to debt, we're building a global trading network that will get everyone interdependent and prevent wars (eventually, hopefully). It's a big project, and like any massive undertaking, requires financing and debt. But, since we're the best credit risk on the planet, the market has determined that we should be able to borrow money at next-to no interest. We get very, very cheap financing because we're a good risk, and a good bet, and money doesn't lie in an open marketplace.

      As to your national origin, your use of fluent colloquial American English, and your breathless predictions of disaster indicate you are a member of our native tin foil hat society. Well, that's your right. This is America, and you can believe what you want, and you can say what you want, and you can even go vote for whomever you please.

      God bless you, and God bless the Unites States of America.

      January 3, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Reply
      • Ginger

        "As to your national origin, your use of fluent colloquial American English, and your breathless predictions of disaster indicate you are a member of our native tin foil hat society. Well, that's your right. This is America, and you can believe what you want, and you can say what you want, and you can even go vote for whomever you please."

        – Well said, Chris!

        January 3, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
      • Ttriac

        K I love how u think I have to be an American, I learned English form a very young age and its not the only language I know Je peux parle en francais avec toix si tu veux jai l' appris en l'ecole secondaire, или может ты пиндос глупый русский Знаешь?! вас там в школе ж не хуя не учaт? ur happy go lucky vision of ur country's foreign policy is amusing and insulting. as for GDP its the sum total of goods and services, u have a huge one u do sell a lot of stuff and ur industry has not yet declined yet shooping malls, financial services, all of the DOW index yet 700 trillion dollars floating around jsut in derivatives im not even gonna get into everything elese to ur 14 trillion is unsastainable and only a moron cannot comprehend that.

        January 4, 2012 at 7:51 am |
    • ram

      Khadafy also was working on a proposed a United States of Africa. This would have been a a powerful bloc of countries with vast resources and one currency like the euro. The yankees did not like this, so they had to get rid of K....but there is a silver lining in the future. The return of Putin. This time he is returning with fire and brimstone for the enemy.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:50 am | Reply
    • reality

      Yes dollar Bill is biggest evil of the time.

      January 4, 2012 at 8:32 am | Reply
  23. Mike

    We should continue to enforce international sanctions and push Iran to the table. Allready many countries have suggested that talks continue and be productive. One would think that given our commitment in both Iraq and Afghanista that we Americans love a good fight and are willing to do what it takes to protect our democracy. The question is how many of Irans ships do we sink in the Persian Gulf before they srceam uncle?

    January 3, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Reply
    • ram

      They will make sure that their ships be sunk in the Strait of Hurmoz by the american war-mongers.

      January 4, 2012 at 3:52 am | Reply
  24. ranger 830

    Keep pokin dogs with sticks and sooner or later your gonna get bit!!!!!! Iran knows this!!!! Either way Amadinajad looks good to his followers. If we back off he will say look i have chased off the zionist infidels. If he fires cruise missels and we retaliate he says look the zionist infadels have attacked! Lets just get this shit done once and for all! The entire civilized world knows that radical islam is a pest that must be exterminated! The question is how to do it as quickly as possible!!!!!! Stop F@#$in around with these idiots and squash them like the bugs they are! Anyone with any sense can tell you that any country with anti blasphemy laws is forcing its people to adhear to shear insanity!

    January 3, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Reply
    • KpNc

      True that. Its good to see that some people know what they are talking about.

      January 3, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Reply
    • doug

      Are you going? Don't crank up the war machine and then sit on your ass or get your kids deferrments like Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, etc. Would you destroy Saudi Arabia also? They just killed someone for "sorcery." We can't destroy everyone on the planet. Try to keep your sanity.

      January 3, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Reply
    • ram

      Can you, in USA, seat of freedom of the world, deny that there was a Haloucast? Can you take out a picture of a policeman beating a black man to pulp and not go against the law. Can you use the worl b -o m b without it triggering off an alarm at your Homeland Security Office. Can you visit Cuba?

      January 4, 2012 at 3:57 am | Reply
      • Chris

        I know that the Holocaust happened in Germany and eastern Europe. Yes, we have some bad apples in our law-enforcement but so do other countries, ESPECIALLY the mid-Asian countries (Iran, Pakistan, et al). Why would I want to go to Cuba? Acutally, yes I can type the word BOMB whenever I want to. I just don't use the word in the same context as you would. Can you use the word FREEDOM in your country (in any context of the word) and not have to fear the secret security forces showing up at your door? Question. Are you a Shitte or Sunni Muslim?

        January 20, 2012 at 7:46 am |
  25. str8vision

    There is a reason the Navy's 5th fleet sent the Aircraft carrier out of the strait of Hormuz and a reason Iran is trying to "goad" us into returning it. The carrier will "stand off" at a distance so that it's escort ships can adequately defend it against multiple concentrated cruise missle strikes. The strait of Hormuz itself is just too narrow to allow the carrier's full defensive capabilities to be deployed. The Iranians know this and want it back in confined quarters. The carrier's range of influence is more than adequate and in fact is optimally effective at a distance............. less

    January 3, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Reply
    • Sandman

      Within the laws of the sea we will park that carrier where ever we want to. Now you take a pot shot at it and you just declared war on the US. My guess is they will stay outside surface to sea range and wait for the ships to come out. At that point the Ready 5 aircraft will launch and wait to see what will happen. If they are dumb enough to launch the F-18s will sink as many as they can. From there it's up to the guys with egg on their hats and stars on the collars.

      January 3, 2012 at 5:50 pm | Reply
    • Daniel

      I agree with Stra8vision on this. The carrier and it's escorts is a large fleet in and of itself, so having space is needed. Even from Bahrain which is where they port is not 600 miles away at best. Sending them to the deep in the Gulf of Oman makes perfect sense. The subs can get deep where they like it and support ships won't be in such tight quarters either. They are close enough to react quickly but the Navy isn't stupid they aren't going to be fish in a barrel which is what they would be if they sat in the strait itself.
      To top it off they can use their smaller frigates for escorts and patrol. they are faster, more maneuverable, and and can react quickly. Sailing the carrier through the strait is like unzipping your pants. It puts it right in their face and we just continue on about our mission. I think Iran's "closing of the strait" is a lot of hot air. If it isn't I believe they feel they can bother passage through the straight and get away with it at best. I think there is a belief that we will not respond, or if we do we will be restrained. My hope is we won't be. A unilateral and authoritative strike to any aggression to shipping, or attempt to hinder free travel will put it in perspective. This means a calculated series of strikes to take out the majority of their navy within a few hours. Make them cry uncle. Anything less will simply be viewed as weakness.
      An example would be the Israel Lebanon conflict a few years back. While not an outright win for the Israelis, the Hezbollah were shocked by the Israeli response, and have been far less effective in the region ever since. I admit there were plenty of issues on the Israeli side with how it was implemented but the overall affect was OMG these guys aren't messing around. Since then activity on the Lebanon boarder has been minimal.

      January 3, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Reply
      • Doug

        i agree, it would be a wast of one of our largest assets to move it threw the straight at this time , when a more replaceable asset would send the same message to them and the world at large.

        January 4, 2012 at 3:32 pm |

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