Suspect in soldier killings given back to Iraqis
December 16th, 2011
03:20 PM ET

Suspect in soldier killings given back to Iraqis

By Sarah Aarthun and Adam Levine

A Lebanese militant accused of involvement in the deaths of five U.S. soldiers in Iraq was handed over to Iraqi authorities Friday after U.S. officials received assurances that he will be brought to trial, according to a White House spokesman.

Ali Mussa Daqduq has been in U.S. military detention in Iraq since 2007 as an "enemy combatant." His case had become a tug of war between Iraq and the Obama administration as the Iraqis gave no indication they would allow Daqduq to leave the country.  The case became even more urgent in recent weeks as the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq neared completion. Daqduq could not be held without trial once the U.S. mission ended - a milestone that was officially marked Thursday during a ceremony in Baghdad.

Tommy Vietor, the White House National Security Council spokesman, acknowledged Friday the difficulties in negotiations, noting that discussions continue to determine "with the Iraqis the best way to ensure that he faces justice."

Daqduq was accused of organizing a kidnapping in the Iraqi city of Karbala in January 2007 that left five U.S. soldiers dead.  After he was captured months later, Daqduq pretended to be a deaf-mute, according to U.S. intelligence officials.  But officials identified him as a 24-year veteran of the militant group Hezbollah who had commanded a special operations unit and been sent to Iraq to develop "Special Groups" within the Shiite militia.

"Because of the president's concerns about the crimes Daqduq is alleged to have committed, we worked a wide range of options consistent with U.S. and Iraqi law to affect his transfer to a U.S. military commission," Vietor said Friday.  "We did so because we felt that was the fastest possible way to bring him to justice. We are continuing to discuss this case with the Iraqis, and as of this morning, he has been transferred to Iraqi custody."

A group of U.S. senators called the administration's handling of the Daqduq case "disgraceful."

"This failure to keep a committed murderer of Americans in U.S. custody sends exactly the wrong message to our allies and enemies in the region," said a statement by Sens. John McCain, R-Arizona; Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky; Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent; and Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina.

U.S. intelligence officials have said Daqduq has admitted to working with the Quds Force, a branch of Iran's Revolutionary Guard.

Vietor said Friday that the United States didn't have the legal option of rendering Daqduq to a U.S. military commission because it would have been in violation of a security agreement with the Iraqis that requires the assent of the Iraqi government to transfer individuals into or out of the country.

"We take this case very seriously, and for that reason have sought and received assurances that he will be tried for his crimes," Vietor said.

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  1. AdDiCtEd

    I don't understand WTF US wants? They don't have any right to make decisions, what do they think that they can do what ever they want. What do you expcect in Iraq a Hoilday Island... You are the one who made it hell and now you have to pay the price. It was a lot better country when Saddam was a Ruler. Beacuse of Fu****G Americans..everyone have to pay price for that with their lives. If any other country tried to engage in a war then they western will have problem with that... but if Westerns wants to fight then it's fine with it . I know what UN and Nucler watch dog does.. They Work for US. cause they fund them with big amount of $ to shut their mouth. They said that Iraq has WMD nop.. they lied it.. they were After OIL. The only thing i want to see it U.S & it's Allies having a war With Iran, North Korea, China , Russia, India & Pakistan. I would love to see U.S and it's allies riping in part. and then they will know what is the actual meaning of WAR..........

    December 18, 2011 at 5:15 am | Reply
    • wayne from canada

      You may have some gounds for taking issue with American foreign policy, but to hope for such a conflagaration, is species suicide.

      December 18, 2011 at 10:54 am | Reply
    • usadvo

      alot of political comments of this post session , many angry persons, many ill informed , many truthful comments.
      the bottom line is I have worked within and traveled to over 80 countries. I am not a politician , reporter , hater of other cultures, much less involved in the mindsets posted on this thread .
      But I can assure anyone interested in understanding fact........Countries like USA , Aus , UK , European allied nations are by far the Best and opprotunistic places to live a life of joy and ability to progress. People will always have negative feelings born from envy. Simply look at how many people from other nations strive so hard to be in the countries that promote ambition , democracy and advancement. So many haters , yet it is not what is being portrayed in the rhetoric and rants posted. Call me proud , foolish ...doesnt really matter to me. I live in the USA and it is one great place to be a part of society with harmony and advancement. forget the politics, laws , headlines...with hard work and determination....any normal person can enjoy life.

      December 19, 2011 at 2:34 am | Reply
    • ocupywallstreer

      well, I'm from the U.S, the government I believe has not used good logic after WW2

      December 27, 2011 at 3:33 pm | Reply
  2. Bob

    I think it is arrogant of the US to believe they can hold a prisoner in US custody albeit accused of killing Americans, in a foreign country.

    December 17, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Reply
    • Jose

      Sure it's arrogant.
      It is stupid that the Americans didn't kill the fekllow and then claim that he had been turned loose.

      December 17, 2011 at 9:42 pm | Reply
    • Mrs. M

      It seems you missed the point of the article. And, what's even sadder is that you have no clue how ignorant you are.

      December 18, 2011 at 10:31 am | Reply
      • AdDiCtEd

        so it means you know what it really means, don't you stupid Americans..Doesn't matter what this story is saying but the only thing which means is U.S is responsible for the death..so it's fine for U.S to Kill innocent civilians they have right. Obviously they will kill U.S soilders cause they are in their Soil. My only wish is to see U.S getting riped off... Obama can't give job to his own peoples, can't control crime in his own country and he wants to see peace in other country.. Mind your own business ..why don't you take care of ur own people...Jesus Have Mercy on U.S.

        December 18, 2011 at 10:31 pm |
  3. Jul

    America has become such a bully that half the world is dying to teach it a lesson. I am sure pretty soon they will have to taste their own medicine. I am not very happy about it, because I love the freedom of the West, but they are giving it a bad name. If they psss off the Chinese, Russian or the Arabs, we will have to live under tyrants. idiot militants, DON'T SCREW IT UP FOR US.

    December 17, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Reply
  4. Saheed zainab

    Thousand and thousand of children s uffered frm sexual abuse in d dutch roman catholic church over more than 6 decader and abt 800 "possible perpetrators" hav been identified. An independent commission of inquiry said."several tens of thousand of minor hav experience mild serious and very serious forms of inappropriate sexual behavior.

    December 17, 2011 at 3:17 am | Reply
  5. Saheed zainab

    Iraq does nut have any criminal u think be4 u judge dis is nt smetin of 2day.

    December 17, 2011 at 3:03 am | Reply
  6. Saheed zainab

    Iran has suffered in d hand of american since 1989 daqdua serious case recieved assurance dat he wil be judge 4 his crime.why cant american live thire life? Mst they fight wit iran? We ar all human being.

    December 17, 2011 at 2:56 am | Reply
  7. ram

    and who of the NATO bunch will be on trial in Pakistan for the killing of 24 + Pakistanis soldiers?

    December 17, 2011 at 1:10 am | Reply
    • Bert

      Everybody is equal in front of the law, but some people are more equal. America is a strong bully and deserves the right to kill whomever it wants.

      December 17, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Reply
  8. John

    Yes, they're right, it was totally deliberate. And maybe they can tell us why wouldn't it be? Do they think we don't know they have deliberately killed our troops? Do they think we are idiots? Do they really think they kills us and we won't retaliate? Clearly they want to be our enemy, they are and have been supplying our enemies, teaching them how to make IEDs and giving them explosives. So today the US is struggling financially, and we are reaching the end of our patience with Pakistan. They started this, now they should look in the mirror and ask if they are ready for the biggest fight of their their lives? The United State must show the world what happen if you behave like Pakistan!

    December 16, 2011 at 11:11 pm | Reply
    • What

      Pakistan has nothing to do with Iraq.

      December 17, 2011 at 7:03 pm | Reply
  9. fry

    When will we admit that our current president is working harder than our last president?

    December 16, 2011 at 10:57 pm | Reply
    • mike bik

      yeah he is working harder at spending our money and not making promises he said he was going to do.... where is the health care and the jobs?

      December 17, 2011 at 5:03 pm | Reply
  10. foolurself

    I'd love to have Ali "chocolate" Mussa on my office work team. He seems to be able to "take care of business-no problem" haha

    December 16, 2011 at 10:04 pm | Reply
  11. rumsfeld009

    WASTED 4600 troops killed, WASTED 30 000 mangled, WASTED suicides and mentally disturbed, WASTED 800 Billion, WASTED IRAQIS 200 000 killed and 4 million displaced.
    THANKS FOR NOTHING GEORGE W BUSH................ war criminal

    December 16, 2011 at 9:15 pm | Reply
    • truthhurts

      Huh? So in your eyes the over 40 countries that invaded Iraq to remove a genocidal despot where all wrong and you were right huh?? Pathetic..

      December 16, 2011 at 9:42 pm | Reply
      • foolurself

        It was to secure the oil supply so that 300lb Americans can drive 3000lb gas guzzling SUVs.

        December 16, 2011 at 10:00 pm |
      • Chris, Austin

        Yes, they were all wrong. Yep.

        If it's that important to remove a genocidal despot (not that you, or anyone else, care if they don't have oil) it could have been done on the Libyan model. But it wasn't about that, was it? It was about a massive invasion, and the insane ego of a puppet president and his handlers.

        Now that is pathetic, you homicidal apologist.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:13 pm |
      • ram

        Do you really think that the majority or multiple parties cannot be wrong? Well in your christian bible, how come from the whole wide world, god saved only Noah and his family plus the unicorn, because the rest of the world were not living righteously. Yes clearly they were greater in number.

        December 17, 2011 at 1:15 am |
    • Mike

      Wow you're stupid. What's scary is – stupid people are breeding at an alarming rate.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:00 pm | Reply
    • Berserkr

      asshole

      December 16, 2011 at 10:32 pm | Reply
    • Robert

      Traitor. You need to be expelled or pummeled about the neck and head.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:38 pm | Reply
    • XVET

      Yes you are right but so what? The fact is the pain will never be over for some since returning vets will be in physical pain for the rest of their lives and will have to deal with the VA. They will be treated very badly and nobody will care. The VA is a poor excuse for a health provider and is far more antagonistic towards vets suffering from pain than helpful, sad but true. The public could care less so these vets will suffer horrors and abuse by the VA all from wanting to serve an uncaring American country.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:53 pm | Reply
    • John

      Those guys are the 26% of the county, die hard Republicans, that stuck with George Bush through thick and thin. Today, mostly, you can't Republicans to say anything in support of the their former leader. A war criminal? Yes, absolutely. He started an unnecessary war on trumped up charges of WMD that he knew to be false. And he approved of the torture and extra rendition of suspects for torture. He's got a big ego and no talent, and anyone who defends him lacks basic judgment. .

      December 16, 2011 at 11:15 pm | Reply
  12. rumsfeld009

    WASTED 4600 troops killed, WASTED 30 000 mangled, WASTED suicides and mentally disturbed, WASTED 800 Billion, WASTED IRAQIS 200 000 killed and 4 million displaced.
    THANKS FOR NOTHING GEORGE W BUSH

    December 16, 2011 at 9:13 pm | Reply
    • Ethan

      Thanks Obama for nothing....

      December 16, 2011 at 9:27 pm | Reply
      • Beatrix Kiddo

        He brought our troops home, something Bush couldn't do!

        December 16, 2011 at 10:14 pm |
    • FstEti

      Beatrix, not entirely accurate. He was implementing policy begun at the end of the Bush Administration.
      All US Forces were mandated to withdraw from Iraqi territory by 31 December 2011 under the terms of a bilateral agreement signed in 2008.
      Obama took office in January 2009.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:44 pm | Reply
  13. Alfredo

    Bad move. I wouldn't trust Iraqis with anything. The US should execute him. Problem solved...

    December 16, 2011 at 8:53 pm | Reply
  14. Steve

    To simplify the job, this guy should have been involved in a terminal "accident".

    December 16, 2011 at 8:41 pm | Reply
  15. Judger333

    In 6 months will be swimming in neighborhood pool with Lockerbie bomber.

    December 16, 2011 at 8:19 pm | Reply
  16. DproveIt

    I see that all there is here is more he said she said... well if you don't like it MOVE THE F OUT OF THE COUNTRY>>>

    December 16, 2011 at 8:12 pm | Reply
  17. Bert

    You Americans are such criminals. You can kill whoever you please, but if somebody fights back you play the victim. You coined the label "enemy combatant" to be able to treat POW's badly. You are ASKING for somebody to teach you a lesson. You are just like Nazi Germany.

    December 16, 2011 at 7:16 pm | Reply
    • All American

      You're an idiot Bert. An "Enemy Combatant" is an individual that fights without a uniform, is part of no organized armed force, owes allegiance to no flag and uses civilians as cover and blends back into civilian population to hide from the SOLDIERS he is fighting. He is a coward who will not stand toe to toe with a uniformed soldier. During the second World War, ANY person CAUGHT fighting in this manner was executed ON THE SPOT, as APPROVED by the Geneva Convention. READ A BOOK and learn something you j@ck@ss!

      December 16, 2011 at 7:29 pm | Reply
      • reply to wicked filth

        "all american", it's dishonest thugs like you that boldly tell lies and who are the epitome of cowardice. The people of that region have fought for thousands of years without wearing "uniforms (funny goggles, 3 layered suits, space age panties, etc) and will continue to fight as they have. Why must they accommodate occupying cowards? And as you speak of cowardice, you might also like to point out the habit of u.s. and western forces of cowardly fighting their wars in air conditioned rooms like armchair soldiers in "drone" control rooms or "cockpit" soldiers via "fighter jets" and other methods far and away from the battlefield. Heck, lately nato has been relying on the Afghan national army to do its dirty deeds. Real brave.

        December 16, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
      • ChicagoRich

        We should follow our own rules, not those of others.

        December 16, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
      • All American

        Wicked Filth – YOU are the epitome of useless flesh. 4800 dead GIs 80% killed by IED's detonated by cowards hiding behind a rock with a cellphone. Yes indeed THOSE are YOUR heroes. STFU and chew on some pork jackwagon.

        December 16, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
      • clearseeingamerican

        When US soldiers drop bombs on cities killing innocent civilians it's called collateral damage. When US soldiers fire machine guns from Apache helicopters at unarmed reporters and children it's called the fog of war. When US soldiers take out an enemy soldier at 1500 yds with a .50 cal sniper rifle, that didn't even see the bullet coming, it's time for a celebration. But if an enemy fights back and wins through cunning and deception, it's murder? He didn't fight fair? He didn't stand toe to toe with American soldiers? What a crock. Get your head out of the sand. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If this man deserves to be tried for murder then there are alot of American soldiers that should be tried for murder as well. They killed in cold blood or from a distance they pulled a trigger or pressed a button to cause the deaths of thousands, including innocents and those defending there country from invasion.

        December 16, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
      • Bubba

        Like most of the Colonial forces during the Revolution? But I suppose that was OK.

        December 16, 2011 at 9:07 pm |
      • Ethan

        @clearseeingAmerican- Your head is so far up your butt that the only thing clear you see is your bull crap! And that is keeping it clean!

        December 16, 2011 at 9:29 pm |
    • redman83

      Waaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaa!

      You type all of that while using our website, American-made software/hardware, typing in English, probably whilst sipping on Starbucks and eating McDonald's french fries.

      Call us Nazis all you want but if it weren't for our Greatest Generation you would be typing in German, Japanese, and/or Italian right now.

      Cry more.

      December 16, 2011 at 7:30 pm | Reply
      • Bubba

        Correction. Chinese made hardware

        December 16, 2011 at 9:08 pm |
      • Dudewhat

        This may have been the dumbest thing ever written. The English language is not American, the computer wouldn't even be around if it wasn't for German engineers and later British engineers, no one with good taste(or a gun to their head) drinks Starbucks and eats McDonald's willingly. Oh and by-the-by, the US wasn't the only country that fought during WW2, try over 50 on the allied forces. Fail harder.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:11 pm |
      • ram

        You seem to project the feeling that america won the war..It that is so, then I want to enlighten you with these facts:
        The second world war was fought among others, by Britain and all of its over colonies including Canada, Australia, Jamaica, all african countries, all west indian countries, british colonies in the pacific, India which at the time included Pakistan, Burma et many others. Students from high schools were sent to war from most of these countries and their names are listed in post offices and archives of the individual countries. America's entrepreneurs were actually admirers of Hitler, especially the one that produced the first american car. America had enough time to make bombs, tanks and shell and they came into action fresh as a daisy without losing anyone before circa 1943.
        When they came in to help they invaded Germany together with Russia and other countries,,,,,yes sir, RUSSIA. Just like good old America, America helped and walked with the glory for domestic consumption. Do you ever hear in the schools of america the achievements of Russia which was on the brink of defeat and came back to take the Nazis....No you wont hear that, you will see tons of war movies where two american or even one overtake the whole legion of germans and Japanese soldiers...In these movies, i observe, only the americans used grenades, all others were dumb and ran int gun shots like sheep. Go ahead and believe it young man, a fools paradise has no border.

        December 17, 2011 at 1:40 am |
    • joe az

      its our government. not us. Most Americans are like me. we go to work, pay taxes, have a beer after work and do the best to raise our families. The media makes it look otherwise.

      December 16, 2011 at 7:44 pm | Reply
    • reply to wicked filth

      Cowards like redman bark too loud and too much when hammered with the truth.. Someone call animal control.

      December 16, 2011 at 7:49 pm | Reply
    • ChicagoRich

      We may not be perfect, but we are much better than most I have seen. International law would see those fighting without uniform summarily executed as spies. I believe that solution might serve us better in situations like this. I am concerned a fellow with a history of a pattern of attacking us such as this man should never be given the chance to do so again. If he ever gains his freedom and is able, he most certainly will. Iraq is a new country, and may have its own judicial system, but it is and has been a violation of U.S. law to attack a U.S. service member anywhere in the World and as an accused of such, if he was not to be kept in military custody or treated as a prisoner or spy captured on the battlefield, then he should have been remanded to civil authorities for prosecution and, if convicted, execution of sentence. I do not care if it hurts peoples feelings that we enforce our principles.

      December 16, 2011 at 8:04 pm | Reply
      • reply to wicked filth

        chicago, you're another coward who just doesn't get it. Your "u.s. law" means nothing, nada in Iraq or elsewhere around the world. Scum such as yourself appear to believe in some self-righteous fashion that "u.s. law" is some type of godly universal concept that naturally applies across the board. Get your head out of your rear end and face reality. The u.s. and the west are in decline and will continue to decline in the coming decades. Power is shifting eastward and your ilk will slip into irrelevance sooner rather than later.

        December 17, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • DproveIt

      Really Bert... I believe you are probably living in the United States of America, this used to be a great land of honorable people with power and respect from all. Now we have to subdue to garbage piling in from other countries and killing our country cause they don't want to learn english , or IN GOD WE TRUST bothers them. well I pledge allegiance to My FLAG and if you or anyone else doesn't like it you know where the border is JUMP!!!! We won't miss you , oh and one more thing we kill , what about the morons who kill themselves to kill others???? Oh maybe its just , they get virgins...

      December 16, 2011 at 8:16 pm | Reply
    • Brian H

      What country do you live in Bert because we just got a lot of spare time.

      December 16, 2011 at 9:14 pm | Reply
  18. William

    Geez, I thought in a war soldiers get killed. Will the soldiers who killed the 150,000+ civilians kill be charged also?

    December 16, 2011 at 7:10 pm | Reply
    • Tommy

      Bert go live in iraq with these animals.

      December 16, 2011 at 7:22 pm | Reply
      • reply to wicked filth

        The only animals there are a herd of wild buffalo's known as the u.s. military.

        December 17, 2011 at 3:33 pm |
    • Bryant

      Only problem is this guy didn't kill soldiers while they were fighting. He MURDERED two American soldiers who had been captured and were prisoners. You kill prisoners that is murder not killing while in combat. BIG difference. And before someone shouts that Americans have done it too, those Americans should be tried, and if found guilty, then put in prison.

      December 16, 2011 at 9:02 pm | Reply
      • Bert

        And what do you call it when American soldiers play with prisoners, torture them to death and take pictures of themselves smiling next to the corpses as they did in Abu Ghraib?

        December 16, 2011 at 11:13 pm |
  19. wharf0rat

    The US should also hand over Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld– all war criminals– to the Iraqis as well. Perhaps then they will be held accountable for their atrocities.

    December 16, 2011 at 6:54 pm | Reply
    • ALL uh

      yep, either that or take them to the Hague

      December 16, 2011 at 7:01 pm | Reply
  20. yourmom

    shoot him in the head.

    December 16, 2011 at 6:32 pm | Reply
  21. WTF

    Do you really think the Iraqi government will try this guy? If you believe that I have a bridge I would like to sell. (It's a toll bridge across the Strait of Gibraltar)..This guy will be back in Iran as fast as we can leave and he will be greeted there as a Hero..The Iraqis are probably planning a big parade for this guy as we leave the country.Pull our troops home from all around the world and secure our own damn borders.Too bad if the rest can't defend themselves.Charge them what they charge us for oil for a bushel of wheat.If they don't wanna pay the price let them eat the oil. Just like North Korea why do we cater to these people.Screw them all.

    December 16, 2011 at 6:25 pm | Reply
    • Tim

      Dude...the US doesn't set the price of wheat or corn. The prices for those commodities are set by the market the EXACT same way as the price of oil is. Opec doesn't set the price of oil, it decides on how much oil it will produce. The price is set by the market.

      December 16, 2011 at 7:02 pm | Reply
    • Market Control

      The US has a comprehensive agricultural policy to control prices on food commodities. Google "Agricultural Policy" and your ignorance might show a bit less. Prices are raised by massive government purchases or subsidies paid to discourage production. Corn, tobacoo, wheat, pork – you name it.

      December 16, 2011 at 7:30 pm | Reply
    • ChicagoRich

      @WTF, we are not self sufficient on energy. Not nearly so. We are at the whim of the producers who get together as a cartel and adjust the production (supply) to effect the price point. If such a cartel existed within the U.S. we would call it a monopoly and use our existing laws to break it up. Consisting of foreign countries it is beyond our control. Even so, there is still a limit based on the infrastructure of how much oil can be produced. It handicaps our foreign policy that we are so dependent upon foreign energy supplies, and it should be a national priority to find a solution to this. Our GDP is directly proportionate to our energy consumption and our energy supplies are under constant threat. Our military strength is dependent upon our GDP in the longer term, so it is critical that we maintain or increase our energy supplies. Domestic options that can be expanded and would likely be required include nuclear power and coal conversion to liquid hydrocarbons, and a massive expansion of renewable energy, and that is after taking reasonable actions to conserve first.

      December 16, 2011 at 8:19 pm | Reply
  22. Cassandra Chu

    ... nothing but a distraction. the truth of the matter is that we Americans never should have started this war based on the lies of WMD. it cost a lot of lives, money, blood. we should apologize to the Iraqis for destroying their lives... because we all know that the NeoCons wanted oil. and the racist jewish AIPAC wanted to kill arabs.

    December 16, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Reply
    • FstEti

      Cassandra, are you referring to the WMD that Bill and Hillary, and most of the Democrat leadership with the same intel that Bush had, said repeatedly that Iraq had, not to mention the U.N. AND Iraq itself said it had? Are you referring to the numerous U.N. Resolutions over an 11 year period demanding that Iraq show how and when they destroyed the WMD that Iraq used on thousands of Kurdish citizens of their own country? Or are you referring to a different group of WMD? Just curious.

      December 16, 2011 at 6:18 pm | Reply
      • Rick from Chicago

        FstEti ... I just love when you Bush supporters try to spin the following facts and excuse him.

        FACT: Regardless of whoever else also lied about Saddam having WMD's – Dubya did as well. You can add however many names you want to that list, but Dubya is still guilty of it.

        FACT: Clinton's info was current. Dubya relying on that same intel Clinton had meant that he was relying on info from the prior administration – which was from years prior.

        FACT: Dems in congress did NOT see all the same intel that Dubya did because there are different clearances for such access to said intel. If you can prove me wrong please do so!

        FACT: It was Dubya that started the war that he couldn't wrap up under his watch based on the bogus intel that he pushed on the people of this country whenever it fit his agenda – not Bill Clinton. Therefore Dubya owns it.

        FACT: You'll have to do a much better job of absolving Bush for his idiocy than that.

        December 16, 2011 at 6:33 pm |
      • yourmom

        coulda woulda shoulda rick. quit living in the past.

        December 16, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
      • Will i am

        You mean intel from the same organization that allowed our stealth drone get hacked by a third rate power?

        December 16, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
      • Rick from Chicago

        yourmom .. that in no way shape or form refutes any of my points or legitimizes any of the arguments you guys continually use to unsuccessfully excuse Dubya for his war of choice and lies. Congrats on that! You might want to stick to the Faux boards. Your nonsensical responses will fit in perfectly there.

        December 16, 2011 at 6:41 pm |
      • yourmom

        wah wah wah, I want to blame people in the past for all our problems. wah wah wah, rich people wont share. wah wah wah. That was my whiny liberal impersonation. Hope you liked it. BTW, unemployment under "dubya" was 4-6% id take him back in a heartbeat.

        December 16, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
      • Rick from Chicago

        yourmom .. once again, that in no way shape or form refutes any of my points or legitimizes any of the arguments you guys continually use to unsuccessfully excuse Dubya for his war of choice and lies. Again, congrats on that! Like I said, you might want to stick to the Faux boards where that kind of thing is expected and celebrated.

        By the way, since you guys blamed Clinton for 8 straight years under Dubya, we'll continue to blame Dubya for all the problems he left for Obama for the next 5 – which include turning a surplus into a deficit, doubling the national debt, starting wars he couldn't finish and kept off the budget books, and continued tax breaks for the rich who didn't create jobs with them.

        Are we clear on this hypocrite? Or should I crystal it up for ya?

        December 16, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
      • yourmom

        you need to concentrate on things you can control. youre wasting energy on things you have nothing to do with.

        December 16, 2011 at 7:16 pm |
      • FstEti

        Rick, I am NOT a Bush supporter. He made a number of mistakes including pushing for the Prescription Drug addition to Medicare (and I'm ON it), he trusted Ted Kennedy in pushing for "The No Child Left Behind legislation, then was immediately stabbed in the back by Kennedy who, along with the majority of his Democrat colleagues, declined to support the war after signing the following Congressional Resolution (FACT). You will have to Google it for the complete authorization and the signers, so Google the info below THIS is a FACT in the Public Record. Intel from Iraq after 9/11 was almost impossible to get due to defunding of the CIA during the Clinton years, as well as obstacles created within Governmental Agencies during that Administration, leading to the attack by Muslim extremists. Yes, much of the Intel was over a year (not years) old, and Bush was wrong. I'm merely saying so was the Democrat leadership who were on the House Committee on Intelligence.Unfortunately, almost as soon as the insurgency began, Bush actually ordered our military to not return fire coming at them from Mosques. That sealed my opinion of Bush; it showed weakness to a ruthless enemy and our troops paid the price in lives and blood (FACT), so, no, I'm no Bush supporter, I am merely pointing out the selective memories of people who express their political opinions as "Facts".
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        AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ RESOLUTION OF 2002

        [[Page 116 STAT. 1498]]

        Public Law 107-243
        107th Congress

        December 16, 2011 at 7:44 pm |
    • FstEti

      Oh, one more thing; no Iraqi oil has been contracted to the U.S.. It has all gone to Europe. Do you people not know how to use Google or is MSNBC your sole news source? Just asking.

      December 16, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Reply
      • Iamgr82day

        FstEti... Hey genius, clearly these people get some their news from a source other than MSNBC as they are all on CNN. I am just saying.

        Are you really one of those guys who believes everything they find after they search google... and are you aware that the right wing spends vasts amounts of money making sure that many topic searches and open source reference materials slant right? Often you have to go many pages into a search before you find raw data and facts with no political slant. I once searched something a liberal talk host said because it seemed that he was a little loose with the facts and I had to wade through so much right wing propaganda and right wing slant that I eventually just gave up searching for the facts so I could make up my own mind.

        December 16, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
      • FstEti

        (Sigh), no I watch CNN, FOX, and MSNBC for balanced views, then I take the time to search news stories from other sources as I'm retired from working in a non union private sector where I produced or lost my job. Regarding conservatives filling the internet with Right leaning propaganda, yea, I've seen it, particularly from some of the "talking heads" from Fox. I also have seen the same from the Left. Does the name George Soros ring a bell with you? Have you ever read the Huffington Post? How about news (not commentary), NEWS stories online for The L.A Times? Ever read Time Magazine? Well, I do. Just guessing, but I'll bet you NEVER even watch FOX. Hmmm, which one of us is the most ideologically invested? I wonder.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:31 pm |
    • taskmaster

      Blood susking arabs have killed more jews than vice versa.Most arabs are killed by arabs ,then they blame jews.If arabs were not so blood thiesty there would be peace in the middle east.

      December 16, 2011 at 6:29 pm | Reply
    • I Chu on you

      Boohoohoo! We ABSOLUTELY ruined their lives by establishing rule of law, civil society, and eliminating a dictator that slaughtered entire towns of children out of boredom and flung their rotting corpses in mass graves that he made other Iraqis dig. Maybe we should re-install you as lunatic-in-chief, you unintelligent anti-liberal twat.

      I'm a jew so I'm a murderer? AIPAC, which fights to protect us from Holocaust wants to kill arabs and incite more violence against jews? Are you DERANGED? Somebody as rhetorically violent, delusional, sociopathic, and abrasive as you is more likely to go mad and slaughter people than any jew is. Maybe you'd be happy living in the hillside fighting Americans you outcast.

      December 16, 2011 at 8:14 pm | Reply
  23. randygnyc

    He should be tortured to death, after they hunt down all of his family members, including old men, women, children and infants and conduct reprisal executions of them too.

    December 16, 2011 at 6:07 pm | Reply
    • Chris

      You are no better than a Nazi savage.

      December 16, 2011 at 6:17 pm | Reply
  24. Youguys R. Killinme

    Jeez, guys...

    I wasn't expecting to see so many fruitcakes until AFTER Christmas.

    Can there possibly be a trailer park somewhere in the U.S. we HAVEN'T heard from? :)

    December 16, 2011 at 6:06 pm | Reply
    • scranton

      What a bigot you are.

      December 16, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Reply
      • Youguys R. Killinme

        What? Has Pennsylvania spoken?

        December 16, 2011 at 6:15 pm |
    • FstEti

      Well, I haven't seen any of the rabble from the Occupy Wall Street comment yet. Or, at least they haven't identified themselves as such, but I have my suspicians

      December 16, 2011 at 6:10 pm | Reply
      • Rick from Chicago

        Based on your soft spot for Dubya and the fact that you can't spell very well or punctuate correctly, I have my SUSPICIONS that you watch Faux news – where people are 18% dumber than people who seek no news at all. You might want to get a GED before you try discussing geopolitics and try to insult others who are clearly more educated than yourself.

        December 16, 2011 at 6:48 pm |
      • CTYank

        Would you prefer tp-ers, carrying? How quickly we overlook the multitude of voices in the choir.
        There'll be some changes made, and we know about orangutans and changes in their cages.

        December 16, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
  25. victim of democrat hypocrisy

    "We did so because we felt that was the fastest possible way to bring him to justice."
    No, the fasted possible way to bring him to justice would be a volley of .223 in the head and chest, like he deserves.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:59 pm | Reply
  26. David

    Right, Who believes that crap. Let's take him with us let him spend the rest of his life at Gitmo or Leavenworth.

    P.S. Remember the Lockerbie Bomber.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Reply
    • Paul

      sure, and by doing so break the very same law your senators have signed into law ... you have to decide if you want to be a terrorist who likes banana republic or if you want to bean American who likes the rule of law.
      Which one is it, are yo a GOP chicken or a true man with the balls to be true to your own words?

      December 16, 2011 at 6:02 pm | Reply
      • asrael

        Paul: didn't you know? Laws are only for "others"...

        December 16, 2011 at 6:34 pm |
  27. leo

    I am sure the suspect will get a "real trial" after which he will spend 7-15 minutes in prison, with time off for good behavior(killing americans) he could be out in 4 minutes.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Reply
  28. sambo

    i DID NOTICE THE ONLY SENATORS STATING THE RELEASE OF THIS KILLER WILL SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE TO OUR ENEMIES WERE REPUBS.....................................AGAIN PROVING THE DEMS CARE LITTLE ABOUT THE WELFARE OF OUR TROOPS

    December 16, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Reply
    • jersvette

      Your clearly incorrect or simply ignorant. Senator Lieberman is an Independent who caucuses with the Democrats. Furthermore, the list of republican senators are again using this as political posturing to bash our President when his hands are tied by an agreement we made.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Reply
      • FstEti

        You mean by the agreement HE made, don't you? The terms were written up this summer.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:52 pm |
  29. StopJihad

    Time to impeach Obama for crime agains americans

    December 16, 2011 at 5:47 pm | Reply
  30. DaveC

    At the end of the war, prisoners are usually set free. What happened to all the prisoners held after WWI, WWII, Korean and Vietnam Wars ended? The only problem with this picture is that if one of our guys were held, I don't think they would let him go free at the end. A question for the conscientious which from past events, I don't think the terrorists have a conscentious that would nag at them for killing someone.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:46 pm | Reply
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      The difference is captured combatants in uniform that obeyed the rules of warfare are treated as prisoners and released after war's end, while non-uniformed militants like this guy could (and should) be executed for their crimes.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:53 pm | Reply
    • steve harnack

      Hey Victim, is that why Brenner disbanded the Iraqi Army? So they could murder every one that they captured while they were "liberating" them?

      December 16, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Reply
    • Maya

      What a crock. Do you think the North Koreans and Chinese abided by the Geneva Convention? Hell no. In fact, we got some our torture techniques from them.

      The great thing about a "war on terror" is that it will never end, and as long as they can say we are at war, they can justify doing whatever we want. They rely on the fact that Americans have been brainwashed into thinking that if they question the military's actions, they are not patriotic. 9/11 was about the best thing that could have happened to these delusional, power-mad neo-cons. A war that never ends is their ideal scenario, a blank check to commit whatever atrocities they have convinced themselves are necessary. They did it in Vietnam, and now they're at it again. Maybe this time, we don't be able to stop them.

      December 16, 2011 at 6:19 pm | Reply
  31. HZ

    What do you complainers think happens when a war is over? Do you round up all the guys who fought on the other side and shoot them in the head? No. If the US felt this guy was not a lawful combatant then we (US) should have tried him or kept him. LOTs of people die in war zones. Maybe we should put the people who lied to get the US to go to war in Iraq on trial cause they caused a lot more americans to die than 5.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Reply
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      Mr. Liberal, non-uniformed combatants are considered saboteurs, and therefore can be lawfully executed.
      What, do you think we still have in jail every Iraqi that wore a uniform? Wake up, child.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Reply
      • HZ

        You must not have comprehended what I wrote: IF the US feels the guy was not a lawful combatant then the US (we) should have tried him or kept him. What part of this do you fail to grasp? Handing him over is an admission that he is a lawful combatant. It sucks that any US troops died but if you want to lose sleep and get weepy eyed over US soldier deaths, like I said, look at the source: the whole Iraq war was started on lies. Call me liberal all you want, I'm independent and I support some conservative ideas and some liberal ideas just like the US Constitution says I can.

        December 16, 2011 at 6:03 pm |
  32. wharf0rat

    They should also turn over to the Iraqis those Americans who killed Iraq civilians. Start with those responsible, Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld, and work your way down.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Reply
    • nosepicker

      good luck with that...

      December 16, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Reply
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      And let's not forget every democrat in the senate and house that voted to go to war in Iraq, right Dumbledore?

      December 16, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Reply
    • sacorbi

      Bush and Cheney ordered U.S. soldiers to slaughter innocent civlians and the U.S. miltary blindly obeyed. Way to support the troops libtard.

      December 16, 2011 at 6:14 pm | Reply
  33. jmtaylor700

    "This failure to keep a committed murderer of Americans in U.S. custody sends exactly the wrong message to our allies ... in the region"

    Yes – we should make it perfectly clear to everyone in the world that people like McCain and the other demagogues that fancy themselves as the masters of all things or as Gods, and therefore have the right to can dictate to whomever they please what it right or wrong, disrespect any peoples at their pleasure, disrespect any government at their pleasure, disrespect any laws at their pleasure, and disrespect the sovereignty of any nation on earth at our pleasure.

    What a bunch of morons, including McCain; I'm sure they would gladly sacrifice unlimited numbers of U.S. lives to show them Iraqis who is the boss of their country.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:30 pm | Reply
    • Daphne Florence

      Spoken like the diseased mind of a liberal!

      December 16, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Reply
      • DproveIt

        WOW , what is with you people? Talking about politics like you know everything about it .... Give me a break , you really think either side cares a rats ass about YOU personally ???? No they don't , they get paid and that is what they care about , they control the house that's what they care about... Get over it there is no parties all they want is money , power , and control... Think about it , its like religion they all want the same thing just in thier own ways. OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICA...

        December 16, 2011 at 8:32 pm |
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      Moron Jim believes we should let lawyers fight the wars.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:51 pm | Reply
    • steve harnack

      @Daphne, NOT being bloodthirsty is evidence of a diseased mind? Another reason for Republicans to become extinct. They just can't seem to play well with others, they always want to kill them.

      December 16, 2011 at 6:00 pm | Reply
      • thatoneguy

        We're all just animals. We're supposed to kill each other over territories and stuff. Haven't you ever picked up a National Geographic?

        December 16, 2011 at 7:42 pm |
  34. Brian Gross

    Save money, use a 9MM

    December 16, 2011 at 5:29 pm | Reply
  35. joe

    At least the iraqis don't waste a billion dollar per execution. They have a length of rope and some audience with popcorn.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:26 pm | Reply
  36. J-Man

    We should have put a bullet in his head and left him on Iraqi soil. No need to take him out of the country.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:22 pm | Reply
    • Rod C. Venger

      Where the H is the "like" button?

      I think it's despicable and cowardly that Obama would sign an agreement with the enemy that requires their permission for us to prosecute the war as we see fit. Let's render Obama over to Iraq and leave him there too.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Reply
  37. BigdaddyUSA

    He will just escape an Iraq jail......bunch of idiots over there.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Reply
    • Rod C. Venger

      No, the Iraqi's will put him on trial and it'll be found that kidnapping and killing Americans is no crime. Just war. And he'll be let go.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Reply
      • reply to wicked filth

        You mean like the "blackwater guards" that cowardly murdered and injured dozens of Iraqi civilians and were found "not guilty" in a u.s. kangaroo court?

        December 17, 2011 at 3:39 pm |
  38. the_dude

    Nice job on the release of soldier killers obama. Maybe obama can send them some USA tax dollars to help the killers start a new life.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Reply
    • theboss59

      What else would except from this moronic monkey, he should be shot for treason, this country is boomned if this a hole get re elected. wake up america. TIME FOR ANOTHER ARMND REVOLOUTION......................................

      December 16, 2011 at 5:24 pm | Reply
      • chupacabra

        The alternative was far less appealing so we shall see if the GOP can do better this time around.

        December 16, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
      • joe

        Go ahead boss, start by shooting at the cops. Be right behind you.

        December 16, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
    • Rod C. Venger

      You can bet that this guy will run to Amnesty International, who will run to ACLU, and they'll work out a multimillion dollar settlement for the 5 years he spent in captivity. There will no doubt be stories of torture, being frozen in winter, baked in summer, and made to stand looking like a mime siting on a non-existent chair. Horrors.

      December 16, 2011 at 6:00 pm | Reply
    • steve harnack

      Hey, Bush is the one who sent billions over there that promptly went missing, never to be seen again. And since we had this man since 2007, it seems like this is just one more thing that the Bush Bunglers DIDN'T get done, eh?

      December 16, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Reply
  39. CA Dude

    This is why Truman used a b*mb.

    December 16, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Reply
    • reply to wicked filth

      And truman would be ripped with a second and third a-hole if he did that today.

      December 17, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Reply
  40. bblue

    Nathan you are an idoit obama had nothing to do with this. i bet you love NEWT.

    December 16, 2011 at 4:58 pm | Reply
  41. Trade

    Nice to see Iraq fighting with us already...it's starts with a murder suspect.

    December 16, 2011 at 4:56 pm | Reply
  42. moradasame

    I'd like to see the B*****d hung lout on a meat hook but chances are that there will be a "deal" and the dirt bag sill walk...

    December 16, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Reply
  43. Patriot

    OK, So he is going to be given the chance ( AS THEY ) always say he dug a tunnel 3 football fields long and escaped. Yea right. Boil Him Alive.

    December 16, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Reply
  44. Mike D

    Obama is such a coward

    December 16, 2011 at 4:53 pm | Reply
    • Prozac For Toothless Trailer Park Dwellers

      Here you go again.
      Have your brain cells examined. You're OFF your meds again.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:38 pm | Reply
    • HZ

      Not really. President Obama ordered US forces to step up efforts to hunt down Bin Laden and as a result Bin laden was killed. Bush Jr went out of his way to shut down Bin Laden search operations and declared he didn't care where Bin Laden was. You do the math.

      December 16, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Reply
  45. Schmedley

    I'm kind of surprised that he didn't die of a 9mm brain hemorrhage a while ago...

    December 16, 2011 at 4:47 pm | Reply
  46. Nathan

    This guy will be set free; as Iraq is very happy the US is leaving..........and who paid for this; innocent american soldiers who died for nothing...........

    December 16, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Reply
    • jeff

      this guy is going to be a hero in iraq they hate us

      December 16, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Reply
    • Wes

      Don't say any of our troops died for nothing. Seriously, don't ever say that because it's not true and is really disrespectful to them and their families.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Reply
      • dave

        Excellent Point!

        December 16, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
    • Prozac For Toothless Trailer Park Dwellers

      Nathan; blame war mongers like GWB, Dracula Dick Cheney, mentally challenged and bottom of the class cadet, John MaCain and GOP/GWB Whitehouse group of cronies including the US media. At least all these 4,400 plus, innocent dead US soldiers will be alive today with their families. They died simply 'cos of disdain hate of Saddam by the imbecilic GWB and GOP/GWB Whitehouse group of cronies. Never again should we as people let these war monger masochisms start ANY war than giving peace a chance.
      Oooooooops! They want to start one right NOW over some robot. Haven’t we learned our lessons?

      December 16, 2011 at 5:35 pm | Reply
  47. citizen

    Leave it to Obama to hand over a killer of US troops to another country.

    December 16, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Reply
    • He who should not be named

      What do you expect from someone who is from there?

      December 16, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Reply
      • cfonyc

        let me remind you about the rules of war, you declare war (which the US did not even bother to do...), then you use all means at your disposal to kill thee other side (both parties guilty as charged, it was a "good" war, at least the insurgents put up a fight), then when hostilities end, prisoners are released...
        the guy killed 5 us troops? so? he was a soldier in a war...thats what soldiers do!
        the war is over, the us troops are out of iraq, the guy should be released, it is the "right" thing to do – follow the rules of war.

        December 16, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
      • FstEti

        cfonyc
        I concur. If he was in uniform, let him go. If he wasn't, he is classified as a spy, and should be executed immediately (according to the rules of war). Game, set,match.

        December 16, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
      • Prozac For Toothless Trailer Park Dwellers

        It takes someone like yourself who's actually from "THERE" to know who's from "THERE". Do you get the basic intellectual logic? Or you forgot as Faux News retard on Prozac? Hehehehehe! This is not a place for mentally challenged Douche Bag idiots like you. Whew! Some dead brain pea to deal with.

        December 16, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
      • Rick from Chicago

        FstEti ... LOL! Selectively read much? This is too easy!

        A little further down that same page it says Obama "used the present vote to protest bills that he believed had been drafted unconstitutionally or as part of a broader legislative strategy."

        FACT!

        And "Sometimes the "present" votes were in line with instructions from Democratic leaders or because he objected to provisions in bills that he might otherwise support. At other times, Mr. Obama voted present on questions that had overwhelming bipartisan support. In at least a few cases, the issue was politically sensitive."

        FACT!

        And "It's true that Obama voted "present" dozens of times, among the thousands of votes he cast in an eight-year span in Springfield. Illinois lawmakers commonly vote that way on a variety of issues for technical, legal or strategic reasons. …Voting this way also can be a way to duck a difficult issue, although that's difficult to prove."

        FACT!

        Oh and of course: "We leave it up to our readers to determine whether Obama's "present" votes were a sign of political weakness or deftness"

        FACT!

        But of course you would stop after the one that looks the worst in this case wouldn't you .. especially since you already "made up your mind well in advance of even reading the entire source you selectively quoted to mis-characterize what Obama did to suit your agenda.

        Just like a republican would who you insist you're not.

        Oh .. and FACT!

        December 16, 2011 at 9:16 pm |
    • Wes

      I know it's the popular thing right now to blame Obama for every little thing you don't like, but you might consider that not EVERY decision that is made is Obama's choice. There are other people that make decisions as well. Besides, you don't know the whole story or situation because of what you read on CNN, so stop acting like an expert know-it-all, because you're not.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Reply
      • base

        Our administration is a joke; Daqduq has American blood on his hand and has admitted to being part of Hezbollah (remember all the killing and kidnappings of Americans in the 80's). How can this administration justify handing
        over a terrorist to the Iraqis who will no doubt release him to the Iranians. Obama, explain that to the soldier's families...SHAME on this spineless administration.

        December 16, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
      • FstEti

        Apparently you overlooked the first sentence in paragraph #4; "Because of the president's concerns about the crimes Daqduq is alleged to have committed,". So, either the Obama reelection network is lying, or Obama gave the go ahead to the military. Or perhaps he just voted "present", then delegated the decision to Eric Holder. Seems par for the course.

        December 16, 2011 at 5:58 pm |
      • Rick from Chicago

        FstEti .. why don't you tell us what voting present means in Illinois (as opposed to, say, the guy who ran against Obama and set a record for not voting AT ALL). See, I'm from Illinois and I happen to know what "present" means down here. But since you to throw your weight around and act like you know stuff, why don't you enlighten us. And if you lie (which of course you will try and do), don't worry ... I'll correct you as repeatedly and as forcefully as needed!

        December 16, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
      • FstEti

        My Friend Rick
        "The Illinois state Legislature allows members to vote "present" rather than "yes" or "no." The Times reported in December that "present" votes provide a way for lawmakers to voice opposition to an issue. Such votes can also help them avoid the political fall-out of voting "no":

        Source: Fact Check. Org
        Of, since you seem to like it............FACT!!!!

        December 16, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
      • Rick from Chicago

        FstEti ... LOL! Selectively read much? This is too easy!

        (I'll try again to get this posted under the section it should get posted)

        A little further down that same page it says Obama "used the present vote to protest bills that he believed had been drafted unconstitutionally or as part of a broader legislative strategy."

        FACT!

        And "Sometimes the "present" votes were in line with instructions from Democratic leaders or because he objected to provisions in bills that he might otherwise support. At other times, Mr. Obama voted present on questions that had overwhelming bipartisan support. In at least a few cases, the issue was politically sensitive."

        FACT!

        And "It's true that Obama voted "present" dozens of times, among the thousands of votes he cast in an eight-year span in Springfield. Illinois lawmakers commonly vote that way on a variety of issues for technical, legal or strategic reasons. …Voting this way also can be a way to duck a difficult issue, although that's difficult to prove."

        FACT!

        Oh and of course: "We leave it up to our readers to determine whether Obama's "present" votes were a sign of political weakness or deftness"

        FACT!

        But of course you would stop after the one that looks the worst in this case wouldn't you .. especially since you already "made up your mind well in advance of even reading the entire source you selectively quoted to mis-characterize what Obama did to suit your agenda.

        Just like a republican would who you insist you're not.

        Oh .. and FACT!

        December 16, 2011 at 9:22 pm |
      • FstEti

        Yep, you got me Rick. Obama "used the present vote to protest bills that he believed had been drafted unconstitutionally or as part of a broader legislative strategy.".... instead of just voting no.

        And "Sometimes the "present" votes were in line with instructions from Democratic leaders or because he objected to provisions in bills that he might otherwise support. At other times, Mr. Obama voted present on questions that had overwhelming bipartisan support. In at least a few cases, the issue was politically sensitive" ....instead of just voting no.

        And "It's true that Obama voted "present" dozens of times, among the thousands of votes he cast in an eight-year span in Springfield. Illinois lawmakers commonly vote that way on a variety of issues for technical, legal or strategic reasons. …Voting this way also can be a way to duck a difficult issue, although that's difficult to prove"... instead of voting yes or no.

        Oh and of course: "We leave it up to our readers to determine whether Obama's "present" votes were a sign of political weakness or deftness...." Yep, you and I agree on one thing; he doesn't vote according to principle, he does what is politically expedient. I'm glad that we agree on something.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:19 pm |
    • bob

      you mean leave it to obama to RESPECT THE RULE OF LAW? cuz thats what he was doing. respecting the treaty obligations we have with iraq. is america a nation that honors its word – or not?

      December 16, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Reply
      • FstEti

        We have no Treaty with Iraq. You may want to stop throwing terms around that you don't understand, it weakens your credibility. We have nothing more than a "security agreement", which is non binding by either party and can be altered as necessary. The security agreement asking U.S. troops to leave will change as soon as the sectarian bloodshed begins to threaten the Iraqi Government, probably before summer 2012. As with Lybia, Nato and/or the U.N. will ask our President to "lead from behind" again to save the lives of innocent Iraqi civilians. Bank on it.

        December 16, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
      • bob

        FstEti,
        baloney.
        the status of forces agreement with iraq is non binding only in so much as either party can withdraw from the agreement after giving 1 YEAR NOTICE. Did we give notice of withdrawing from the SOFA? NO. not turining this guy over to iraq would have been a direct violation of our legal obligation to iraq, and more importantly our word.

        December 16, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
      • FstEti

        Bob, so when the Iraqi Government begins to fall in the next six months and begs the U.N, NATO, or the United States to help end the thousands, perhaps tens of thousands , of civilian causalities caused by the Shi'ite/Sunni religious and political disputes, then Obama willl tell them that he will help them in 1 year? I really want to see that.

        December 16, 2011 at 10:57 pm |
    • chupacabra

      Leave it to Bush to put our troops in harms way to begin with!

      December 16, 2011 at 5:34 pm | Reply
  48. M. Edward

    This is mind blowing! We are "discussing" this with the Iraqi Government, what kind of BS is that? He was an "Enemy Combatant." He's responsible for the death of 5 US Troops, he should have been tried in a Military Court and if found guilty, put against a wall and shot. Or better yet use Sharia Law and either stone him or cut off his head. Boy are we pussies.

    December 16, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Reply
    • DS Iceman

      well put. We keep caving in to be politically correct and get screwed. I hope your comment doesn;t get censored.

      December 16, 2011 at 4:54 pm | Reply
    • Sunflower

      the extremes is "politically correct" that we've seen lately are going to doom us all in the end.... Enough is enough already.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Reply
  49. Mansee Grace

    And that senile old half-wit McCain is already out there spewing his tired rhetoric. Iraq IS a sovereign nation, and they have utlimate jurisdiction in this case. The only other option for Daqduq would have been sending him to Gitmo. I suppose that would have made McCain happy...

    December 16, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Reply
    • Cedar Rapids

      Yeah McCain seems to be ignoring the whole "it would have been in violation of a security agreement with the Iraqis that requires the assent of the Iraqi government to transfer individuals into or out of the country" bit.

      December 16, 2011 at 4:42 pm | Reply
    • dave

      Let him escape in the U.S......

      December 16, 2011 at 5:44 pm | Reply
  50. RichP

    Whatever happened to being shot while trying to escape.

    December 16, 2011 at 4:39 pm | Reply
  51. Jesse James

    Bendover Barry strikes again!!

    December 16, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Reply
    • us1776

      Yeah, and you probably blame him for your burnt toast this morning as well.

      December 16, 2011 at 4:39 pm | Reply
      • dave

        What goes around comes around.....Not much fun with the shoe on the other foot, is it?

        December 16, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
    • Mansee Grace

      It's Barry the Flaccid, His Imperial Impotence. Not Bendover Barry; jeez have some respect!

      December 16, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Reply
    • us1776

      You want to go looking for the real criminals of the Iraq War?

      Start looking in Crawford, Texas.

      .

      December 16, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Reply
      • M. Edward

        Also, let's not forget shoot um in the face, Chaney.

        December 16, 2011 at 4:48 pm |
      • scott

        Oh No...Bush never did anything wrong...they asked him and he said so....he was "the decider"....hell we won this war back in 03 or 04 when the bush declared mission accomplished...remember? Well Republicans dont remember anything past 08 I guess...the hundreds of thousands of jobs we had already lost...that first bailout...that was all Bush...and now that they have all paid homage to the king of sleaze...er the Donald...we will get our next perfect saviour who does no wrong and is all seeing....should be great for the rich....I mean country..

        December 16, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
      • Prozac For Toothless Trailer Park Dwellers

        Buddy you got that right.
        If you start a war the tactics the enemy or other side uses is NOT for you to dictate. Not only that; if you start a war, the decision to END IT won't be yours to dictate. We just witness a very horrific war in human history by US invasion of a weak Sovereign Country based on disdain hate for its leadership and Saddam by the Bushes and its war monger machines. It’s guerrilla warfare now and not WWI or WWII.
        Barefooted bedsheet Pyjamas Wearers –VRS- Worlds’ Mighty Army.
        May the souls of those who perished in this senseless war rest in peace.

        December 16, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
    • ugothatright

      thats for sure

      December 16, 2011 at 4:51 pm | Reply
  52. xxxxxx

    Oh, like they're going to do anything about it.

    December 16, 2011 at 4:33 pm | Reply
  53. government cheese

    Only in Obama's world.

    December 16, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Reply
    • Prozac For Toothless Trailer Park Dwellers

      Only in your world of Gov't Cheese Bag for impotent pigs.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:49 pm | Reply
  54. TheMendicantBias

    Good. The Iraqis will execute him quickly after a trial – unlike our system where he would've had 20 years of appeals.

    December 16, 2011 at 4:31 pm | Reply
  55. fed up

    One of two things will happen now – he will escape/be freed by the corrupt Iraqi forces or he will be killed in jail like many others over there. I'm just happy we're getting out of that place. now to get out of Afghanistan and Pakistan and let that part of the world fight among itself.

    December 16, 2011 at 4:27 pm | Reply
    • Monkeysee

      Well said.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:37 pm | Reply
    • Will i am

      I agree.. and vote Ron Paul 2012! He wants to do exactly that..

      December 16, 2011 at 6:34 pm | Reply
      • jimbo

        Dr. Ron Paul, the only sane republican nominee.

        December 16, 2011 at 8:29 pm |

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