December 16th, 2011
10:10 AM ET

BREAKING: Wikileak suspect wants recusal

From Brian Todd and Larry Shaughnessy at Fort Meade

A hearing for Bradley Manning, the Army private suspected of being behind the biggest intelligence leak in U.S. history, began Friday morning but almost immediately went into recess after Manning's attorney asked the investigating officer to recuse himself.

Attorney David Coombs said Lt. Col. Paul Almanza, the presiding officer, should step down.

Among Coombs four objections was that Almanza, an Army reservist, had a conflict of interest with his civilian job with the Justice Department, which is investigating WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

WikiLeaks posted hundreds of thousands of classified documents on Afghanistan, Iraq and diplomatic exchanges.

The United States accuses Manning, who turned 24 on Saturday, of violating military code, ranging from theft of records to aiding the enemy.

The latter charge is likely, experts say, to land Manning in prison for life. But, if a general sees fit, the law allows that Manning could be eligible for the death penalty.

Manning's Article 32 hearing, the military equivalent of a grand jury hearing that will determine whether enough evidence exists to merit a court-martial, was expected to last a week but could be delayed if Almanza recuses himself.

Both Almanza and the prosecution wanted a recess.

Coombs objected to Almanza's job as a prosecutor for the Justice Department because Manning could be called as a witness in the federal case against Assange.

He objected to Almanza only granting the defense four out of 28 witnesses they requested who were not on the prosecution list.

Coombs said Almanza denied a defense request that the Article 32 hearing be closed to prevent information that might later be ruled inadmissible in court to get out publicly and possible taint a future jury.  He also objected to Almanza's willingness to accept unsworn statements.

Manning had been held at Fort Leavenworth prison in Kansas and was transported for the hearing to Fort George Meade, where the National Security Agency has its offices.

He appeared in the white-walled military courtroom Friday in thick glasses and the Army's camouflage combat uniform. His hair was darker and longer than in the photos of him that have circulated widely on the Internet.

When he responded to formality questions, he sounded confident and strong, in contrast to an image of a soldier who had been mistreated in the brig, as Coombs alleged.

Coombs would not say whether his client intended to speak at the hearing. So far, Manning has kept mum about the staggering allegations against him.

Coombs, also a lieutenant colonel in the Army Reserves, has a reputation for creative military lawyering, his contemporaries told CNN. He is also an active blogger. He's been posting about the Manning case, including his client's alleged mistreatment at Quantico, since taking the case in 2010.

An attorney for the Bradley Manning Support Network says the group has paid about $150,000 in expenses toward Manning's defense, money raised mostly in small donated increments online.

Earlier this month, Coombs hinted on his blog at how he might defend Manning. He filed in court record, and then blogged, a kind of witness wish list.  Coombs said it described military personnel who, if he could call them, would testify that Manning behaved like an unhinged, potentially dangerous soldier on base in Iraq. Manning's superiors repeatedly missed chances to remove him from his intelligence job or revoke his security clearance, the document said.

A few days later, Coombs posted another filing protesting the military's apparent rejection of all but 10 of his requested witnesses. The military would not comment before the hearing.

"If Coombs uses the defense - the 'It's not my fault, they didn't stop me' - that's not going to fly with a military jury. That's not even a defense," said Michael Waddington, a criminal defense attorney who has tried at least 150 Article 32 hearings and many court-martial trials.

"The problem is that (the defense) is not really addressing the charges themselves. You're not saying, 'I didn't leak anything, you can't prove it,' " Waddington said.

Read Ashley Fantz's preview of the case here

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    March 19, 2012 at 11:09 am | Reply
  2. Michael

    Out of the 300 plus million US citizens, it seems like Bradley Manning is one of the few who can still think. The military is not what you'd call a bastion of critical thought. Just read the comments here. The sooner the US collapses, which is happening, the sooner the world can get back to the business of creating life. See, the military people actually believe that they get paid to provide a service. Soon, who will pay them? Only the rich will be able to afford to pay to protect their possessions and property. There will be no middle class. Military people have been taught to follow orders, not think. And yet, we allow them to comment on CNN. Do we allow 5 year old girls on the battlefield? So why would we let a soldier write an article requiring critical thought? The rise of this great military coincides with the collapse of our empire. Military people seem to be the last ones to see the connection. Just like an alcoholic is the last to see that they have a drinking problem.

    December 17, 2011 at 7:39 am | Reply
    • Paul B

      Clearly you have never served in the military, nor am I an anarchist. So I won't comment on your ridiculous postulation.

      December 17, 2011 at 9:35 am | Reply
      • wjshelton

        Perhaps that is why he can see the connection and you cannot. Oh, by the way, I am a veteran and I find some truth in what he says, although I don't completely agree with him.

        December 17, 2011 at 9:49 am |
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      You must not know many people in the military, Michael.

      You post has so much fail in it it isn't really worth breaking down point by point, so I'll just stick to the topic of Bradley Manning. The man you praise as excelling at critical thinking feels that the best way to deal with conflict in the work place is to punch women? Really? He's so good at ordering his thought process he doesn't know what gender he wants to be? Come on - you might fall for the party line, but don't expect everyone to be so gullible.

      December 17, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Reply
    • Jim

      You are gutless. Obviously without the courage to wear the uniform, coward

      December 17, 2011 at 6:38 pm | Reply
      • wjshelton

        ... and you, sir, are a disgrace to the uniform that you say you wear. Have you ever bothered to read the very Constitution that you allegedly swore to uphold and defend? It does not seem so.

        December 17, 2011 at 6:46 pm |
      • wjshelton

        ... or are you, too, one of those "cowards" that you so vehemently decry? Either way, you are a disgrace who doesn't have least notion as to what our country stands for or the values embodied in its Constitution.

        December 17, 2011 at 6:48 pm |
    • Jim

      It's simple to identify those who never have or do not currently serve our great country. God bless my brothers and sisters.

      December 17, 2011 at 6:40 pm | Reply
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        I agree – I'm glad I don't have those lauded critical thinking skills required to remain so close minded, blind and ignorant while simultaneously overstocked with useless but passionate opinion.

        December 17, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      No need for lies, wjshelton.

      December 17, 2011 at 8:25 pm | Reply
      • wjshelton

        What lies, Sarge? Yours?

        December 17, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        Umm, no wjshelton, the comment was directed to you; that is why it had your screen name associated with it. See how that works?

        You claim someone is a disgrace because their opinion varies from yours. I admit, maybe I jumped to a conclusion there and I should not have. I assumed you were a liar and I apologize. You might just be an idiot.

        December 18, 2011 at 1:51 am |
      • wjshelton

        Sarge, your apology is about as sincere as your ability to understand and tolerate viewpoints that differ from yours. And you think you are defending anything? No, because you would defend the rights of ONLY those who think as you do, which is not what our Constitution says. It protects us all. Go back and read it. Also go back and read the oath you took when you enlisted. You need to remind yourself what it says. I don't. I remember it very well, thank you. I took that same oath in 1971, not that you will believe me.

        December 18, 2011 at 6:56 am |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        wjshelton - Again with the lies. I'm not as ruled by emotion as you are, I recognize that adult, rational people can disagree. It doesn't make them a disgrace as you claim. Take your own advice.

        December 18, 2011 at 11:05 am |
      • wjshelton

        Show me one lie that I have written, just one, you dipsh*t.

        December 18, 2011 at 11:47 am |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        Pfft – that's easy. Do you forget what you write?

        "No, because you would defend the rights of ONLY those who think as you do"

        Your words, your wrote them and it's a lie, plain and simple. Or maybe you'll claim it was someone else using your screen name.

        December 18, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
      • wjshelton

        How is that a lie? Spell it out for me. Convince me, if you can.

        December 18, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        Read what you wrote, think about it carefully and you'll figure out where you went wrong. I told you what you said, and I'll even help you with the definition:

        "an inaccurate or false statement."

        You made a silly assumption about me and tried to pass it off as fact. You got called on it, that's all. Grow up, learn from your mistake and move on.

        I'm kinda old fashioned. You've got a right to your opinions, but I will not tolerate your lying about me. Just because the earlier poster let you get away with it you seem to assume you had a free pass. Are you beginning to understand the fundamental concepts here?

        December 18, 2011 at 2:01 pm |
      • wjshelton

        No, Sarge, I expressed an opinion about you, which you are reinforcing with your arrogance, petulance and intolerance of another's viewpoint. If you can't figure that out, you have no business calling anybody anything. You, sir, are nothing more than a bully and I will not be bullied by a jerk like you. Have a nice day, a-hole.

        December 18, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        More lies? Really? Come on, you've been told about that. I'm intolerant because I said you're entitled to your opinion?

        You might want to look into some counseling, you need help.

        December 18, 2011 at 4:28 pm |
      • wjshelton

        Look in the mirror, Sarge. Look in the mirror.

        December 18, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
      • wjshelton

        By the way, Sarge, you might want to invest in a dictionary. Try looking up the word "lie" before you reply to this. It might help you out with your ability to argue coherently, although I doubt it.

        December 18, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • John

      It is amusing that you seem to appreciate critical thought, but fear freedom of speech when it comes to the folks who work to protect that freedom.

      April 29, 2012 at 10:47 am | Reply
  3. Anderson Clayton

    Those with no competence to keep secrets...
    Should not have them!

    December 17, 2011 at 6:21 am | Reply
  4. ChAFR

    Americans die because he thought he was doing the right thing is despicable. He has a blood on his hands and needs to man up to his treason.

    December 17, 2011 at 6:10 am | Reply
    • wjshelton

      ChAFR, how about a little evidence that "he has blood on his hands"? Americans have died because other Americans have not done the right thing by opposing this illegal war.

      December 17, 2011 at 6:16 am | Reply
    • wat.

      ChAFR, who exactly died as a result of the leak you allege Manning to have done?

      December 17, 2011 at 8:26 am | Reply
      • Paul B

        Tell me who was saved as a result of the leak?

        December 17, 2011 at 9:32 am |
      • wjshelton

        PaulB, why don't you answer Wat's question first? Who died? Who was injured?

        December 17, 2011 at 9:46 am |
  5. david lulasa

    if its true the said enemy whom this soldier shared with some sensitive government documents is assange,then the government should arrest him too and then deport him to his home country which is sweden.

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    December 17, 2011 at 4:29 am | Reply
    • wjshelton

      Uhhh, David, Mr. Assange is Australian, not Swedish. So much for your enlightened comment.

      December 17, 2011 at 7:48 am | Reply
    • wat.

      Also, Assange is not in the USA. How do you suppose we're going to arrest him? You want the USA to arrest Assange in London and then fly him to Sweden?

      December 17, 2011 at 8:27 am | Reply
  6. vidar t

    What should be the punishment for telling the truth to people that have been excluded from it?

    December 16, 2011 at 9:28 pm | Reply
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      If the person in question didn't break any laws, none.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Reply
      • bama

        This boy is an heroe. He did the right thing telling the world how hypocrite the gov is.

        December 17, 2011 at 12:31 am |
      • vidar t

        Laws that are enabeling people to write history as they see fit? I`m not saying that the truth about current operations and missions should be revealed to the enemy, but at some point it becomes history. Thats when we want the truth so that we can learn from mistakes and let democracy work as intended. When the government makes it a crime not to lie, you know they have gone to far.

        December 17, 2011 at 9:49 am |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        No, that's not it at all. Think of it on personal terms - I might know your social security number, you bank account info, your address and a host of other personal information. That doesn't give me the right to share it with others accurate or not.

        In Bradley Manning's case, he had promised to protect classified information he failed to do so.

        He doesn't get to claim "whistle blower" on something that was already under investigation; his own comments about the Apache video show that there was an investigation into the incident.

        December 17, 2011 at 12:31 pm |
    • SarahAnn

      A bullet should be his reward.

      December 17, 2011 at 4:02 am | Reply
  7. US Army

    It's not a trial, it is an article 32 hearing. Theudge is not a judge, and this is not a civilian trial/\. It is a hearing to determine whether the prosecutioon has enough evidence to refer to trial in a Courts Martial. Should throw the media out, provide him with proper military cousel and ban the idot that is acting as hin attorney from the proceedings.

    This not a matter for the civilian courts, he is subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justise, not civilian courts nor civilian opinion.

    December 16, 2011 at 9:26 pm | Reply
  8. boulvard

    This is a easy one. This little snot should be excuted for these crimes. I dont understand what all the gab is about. Its clear cut. What is this about support groups? Its crazy, this little snot has supporters. There are people out there that will support some one that has comitted the crimes that has been comitted. Well i guess this does not really supprise me. The society we live in about any thing can and will happen. Go ahead and kill this snot and get this over and done with.

    December 16, 2011 at 9:06 pm | Reply
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      Yeah, I'm amazed at the support he has. It makes no sense.

      Of course, Michael Vick had his supporters too.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:33 pm | Reply
    • bama

      If you think this boy should be excecuted , so the Nazy army would had done

      December 17, 2011 at 12:43 am | Reply
      • Paul B

        Bama, are you pretending to have such poor writing skills? Your point gets lost in your inabilitiy to communicate.

        December 17, 2011 at 10:04 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        Let's wait for the trial, shall we, before rushing to judgement. I know it might not be seen as "cool" but it is the way we like to do things in the US.

        December 18, 2011 at 2:13 am |
  9. Crisper

    Sheepleherder your a idiot. Who the hell care what he leeked, the military shouldn't be afraid to let people know what they have done, and
    alot of it is bad if you read those documents. I guess in the US freedom
    of speech only goes as far as the military allows it.
    You really think someone should be killed for leaking military info,
    if you think that you are evil yourself, someone who has no compasion
    for human life

    December 16, 2011 at 6:29 pm | Reply
    • Alan

      Crisper – Here's a quarter, go buy yourself a clue. If you had ANY knowledge of the military you'd realize those who enter VOLUNTARILY give up a measure of their free speech so that dumba**es like YOU have that luxury. That said, who are YOU to decide what information should and should not be kept secret. You and PVT Manning are NOT in a position to pass judgement. Just enjoy being a misinformed clown and carry on....

      December 16, 2011 at 7:01 pm | Reply
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      Wow Crisper – that is one of the less informed comments here, that is saying something.

      1) I do and apparently the government does since they charged him. Bradley Manning does, if he is guilty, and Assange did.
      2) It isn't about the military letting people know what they did.
      3) This isn't a Freedom of Speech issue. Revealing classified documents is not protected speech in the US or anywhere else in the world, especially not for someone that has taken an oath to protect that material.
      4) Let's decide his guilt or innocence before we settle on a punishment. I know some people get their exercise by rushing to judgement, but the guy's life is at stake here.

      December 16, 2011 at 8:09 pm | Reply
  10. James Patton

    Liberty Queen & others w/the hero jargon have serious value issues of the politically correct kind whose ultimate defense is hate. Ironically, they compound the misguided arrogance you find when you trace their venom to the same root that would justify killing them for speaking out at all in the cloaked support for totalitarian world rule. They are like children who saw their parents on TV in the legitimate protest of Viet Nam who see the intellectual fun and fame they got cheated out of & seize the weakest hope to cash in on the thrill, never realizing, or more accurately, w/no moral care, that that "excitement" fell reluctantly on people w/better things to do, & their values WERE in danger–the saving of which by true heroes of the time have led to these counterproductive present day displays of selfishness so blind their own arguments embarrass them in speaking freely–yet that which they revile forgives them. If they were serious, they would protest Bush, not for going in Iraq at all, but staying after.

    December 16, 2011 at 6:01 pm | Reply
  11. Jeff

    They need to execute Manning on national TV so everyone sees what happens to traitors.

    December 16, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Reply
  12. Pat

    He is no doubt the one and only true hero of the Iraq war

    December 16, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Reply
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      Because he is accused of breaking the law? Because he punched a woman?

      It is a lot easier to become a 'hero' in your world than it is in mine.

      December 16, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Reply
  13. MalcmXcremnt

    Thank you Bill Clinton and your foolish DADT. People have been executed because this whiny homosexual was upset that the army didn't welcome his perverse lifestyle with open arms. He should get life in front of a firing squad...

    December 16, 2011 at 1:55 pm | Reply
    • Patti

      Perhaps he should try the Lt Calley defence – he did not understand the orders. He got a for mass murder so should get Manning a medal.

      December 16, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Reply
      • Patti

        Should have said he got a pardon for mass murder..oops

        December 16, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
  14. NoRightsInAmerica

    What is he guilty of? Teach him a lesson he'll never forget. Take his money and his first born in a corrupt family court process. That'll show him who's boss. That'll show him he is fighting for NO RIGHTS. That'll wake him up.

    December 16, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Reply
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      He's not guilty of anything relating to Wikileaks, just accused.

      The only thing I know he was guilty of was punching a female officer in the face, although coworkers said they saw him punch other women.

      You're right though, we are complacent about the dangers of workplace violence.

      December 16, 2011 at 1:46 pm | Reply
    • Will

      At this point, he's not guilty of anything. That's why he's in court, to find out if he is indeed guilty. He's charged with treason I believe for leaking classified information. If he's found guilty, he definitely is at risk of being put to death. You can't commit treason of any kind while serving in the military and during war time and not expect that may be the case. If he did what they say, then he knew what he was doing at the time and should expect the punishment.

      December 16, 2011 at 3:16 pm | Reply
  15. James PDX

    I want a new judge
    One who don't think I'm sick
    One who won't make me get raped behind bars
    Getting filled by big felon dick

    I want a new judge
    One that won't lock me up ‘til I’m dead
    One that won't make me get humped dry
    While pinned to my prison bed

    One that won't make me nervous
    Wonderin' what to do
    One that makes me get fudged packed right where I go poo
    When I'm locked up with you

    I want a new judge
    One that Assange can steal
    One that don't cost too much
    One who’ll take a deal
    [ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/h/huey+lewis+and+the+news/i+want+a+new+drug_20066322.html ]
    I want a new judge
    I don’t want to go away
    I don’t want to get humped all night
    And use my purty mouth all day

    One that won't make me nervous
    Wonderin' what to do
    One that makes me get fudged packed right where I go poo
    When I'm locked up with you
    Locked up with you baby

    I want a new judge
    One without a hangman’s hood
    One that won't make me feel too bad
    Cause at least I didn’t shoot up Fort Hood

    I want a new judge
    One with a reasonable doubt
    One that won't make me talk too much
    And tell what I’m all about

    One that won't make me nervous
    Wonderin' what to do
    One that makes me get fudged packed right where I go poo
    When I'm locked up with you
    Fudge packed by you
    All alone with you, yea, yea, yea, harder, harder, baby!

    December 16, 2011 at 1:31 pm | Reply
    • theone

      my eyes are filled with tears

      December 16, 2011 at 1:44 pm | Reply
    • Bjon

      You need a doctor.

      December 16, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Reply
  16. libre

    liberez le tout suite et cessez de faire la guerre

    December 16, 2011 at 1:26 pm | Reply
  17. Ex-military

    Regardless of whether he leaked these documents to expose our corrupt politicians (yes, some of them are corrupt), or because he was a flaming homosexual who punched a woman in the face, he signed forms of confidentiality that said he will NOT leak any classified information EVER. It doesn't matter if you think he's a hero or a traitor, if he willingly leaked those classified documents, than he broke the law. I've worked with classified military documents for 6 years and as disenchanted with aspects of the US government as I've become, leaking that information was never an option. Nothing has actually been proven however, and until hard FACTS come out during the trial, we are all just speculating.

    December 16, 2011 at 1:24 pm | Reply
    • NN

      That's the Army for you, totally corrupt. They leaked circumstantial and in some cases confidential information to the press to get him convicted in the eyes of the American public. How better to divert attention away from their criminality and incompetence. The Army investigation of the murder of the Reuters reporters was criminal, people need to be prosecuted for that. Also their mishandling of SIPRNET was a gross incompetence and security breach that warrnats criminal prosecution. There is no telling how much strategic and tactical intelligence was extracted from their system by really bad actors. This is what should be the headline news, and not some really minor enlisted intelligence specialist.

      December 16, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Reply
      • Will

        And there it is....deflection from the topic on hand. When/if they are brought to justice for all of the things you wish to rant about, then by all means let's focus on that. However, this story is about what Manning may/may not have done. As the previous poster stated, if found guilty then he deserves to be punished fully. His actions put other soldiers, marines, and airmen at risk of their lives because he was disenchanted.

        December 16, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
  18. Sheepleherder

    Manning is neither a hero or a villain. He's just a plain old immature, petulant and irresponsible loser who could have cared less about "making the world a better place". What he did he did because he was the prototypical "disgruntled employee" and deserves no pity or mercy. Whether it can be factually proven or not, he was likely the cause of people dieing. Even if no one died, it was not through any effort he made to prevent it. He deserves nothing less than the most severe punishment that can be given.

    December 16, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Reply
    • Rob

      you REALLY don't have a clue, do you?

      December 16, 2011 at 1:12 pm | Reply
      • Sheepleherder

        Perhaps not ... but I seem to have substantially more than you.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
      • Rob

        and yet you keep showing that you know nothing.....you haven't even gotten close to being accurate on your posts.....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
      • Edd

        Whether it can be factually proven or not(which it can), former president Bush was likely the cause of people dieing.
        Where's his trial?

        December 16, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
      • jeff t

        what are you talking about. he's dead on. it's you who doesn't have the clue.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
      • Sheepleherder

        What do you know or care about "accuracy". You can't even COMPREHEND the ramifications of what he did, any more than he does. The FACT that peoples lives were put at risk of torture and murder, is a complete MYSTERY to you! You deserve as much pity as he does ... and hopefully you are never in a position to have access to anything more critical than the latest issue of an Archie comic book. No further responses to you unless you make an intelligent post ... if that's possible.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
      • Rob

        see? that's the part you aren't getting.....the info was YEARS old....NOT even ONE person was put in greater danger by anything from those documents.....THAT is the ENTIRE POINT you aren't getting.....MOST of it was about the EARLY BUSH administration.....since, at the time of the release, NOTHING was the same as it was during the first years of the Bush regime, NONE of the info was relevant to troop activity....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        See? That's the part you're not getting. It doesn't matter how old the documents were. If Manning did what he is accused of, he gave classified material to someone he knew wasn't authorized to receive it. All the rest is fluff.

        December 16, 2011 at 2:07 pm |
    • Nisroc

      Whats that US saying, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Maybe this was Mannings whole plan. IMHO the US needed this to wake up it civilians to what it government is really doing. Even though I am not an American I see Manning more a patriot than a traitor. If he did do this then he probably knew the what would happen if caught and If he knew the risks then why would he do it. Not because he is stupid, but maybe because he misses what used to be the land of the free which is now the land of corruption.

      December 16, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Reply
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        I could accept that argument better - assuming he is guilty - if he wasn't breaking the law to do it. There are ways to blow the whistle without breaking the law, he didn't bother. Of course, he also thought a good way to deal with conflict in the workplace was to punch people. All together, the image I get isn't of a patriot so much as an angry guy who was doing things without thinking about the consequences.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
      • Sheepleherder

        Do you REALLY believe that?? You're joking right? He put, not only the people working on our side into jeopardy, but their families and innocent people who might have just been associated with them! FOR WHAT! To get back at his employer!!!!

        December 16, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
      • Rob

        no, there are no "legal" ways to blow the whistle on corruption in the military...whistleblowing, by definition, is going outside a chain of command and revealing information that otherwise would not be revealed....technically, the only person that cannot be punished for whistleblowing on the military is the Pres himself...

        December 16, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
      • Rob

        Sheeplehearder, it doesn't matter how many times you claim it to be so, NO one was endangered by the document release as it was all at least 2.5 years old at the time of release with a great majority of the info from WAY before 2.5 years earlier...

        December 16, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
      • Rob

        you have basically formed an opinion based on absolutely false info which is why you are so very wrong...

        December 16, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        Rob - someone lied to you. There absolutely are ways to legally blow the whistle even on classified programs, and they are frequently used. One is even in the news lately, relating to DoJ instead of DoD. You can't go into any DoD or DoD related activity without seeing fraud, waste and abuse style posters, and the same sorts of things exist in the classified world.

        It's obvious from your other posts you have no idea what you are talking about, but don't spread misinformation.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
    • NN

      I agree there is reason for personal motive and it was not entirely altruism on his part. It is natural for people who are being ofiicially denigrated by an institution to attempt to void the authority of that institution. Manning did succeed in doing that. You need to ask yourself how dumb is the Army to allow him access to all this intelligence info while he was going through the process.

      December 16, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Reply
      • Sheepleherder

        There is a point where you have to TRUST your employee or nothing will get done. Granted he was allowed too much trust but there are THOUSANDS of people, in exactly the same position as Manning, that did not betray their country.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        Yeah, I agree with you - the Army should have removed his access when he was demoted and told that he was going to be kicked out for punching an officer, but by then he was already releasing documents.

        For me though, this isn't about what the Army did or didn't do, it's about what Manning did or didn't do. He's an adult, and is making his own decisions and in this specific area, the consequences for revealing classified material inappropriately is very clearly spelled out.

        December 16, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
  19. Duane

    Whatever his reason, he broke military law and placed soldiers in harm's way. He is a traitor and should be treated as such.

    December 16, 2011 at 1:09 pm | Reply
    • Rob

      since all of the info was old, no soldiers were ever placed in harm's way due to Wikileaks....any harm that came to soldiers was due to where they were and what they were doing.....do you really think a communication about what the ambassador to Turkey thinks of certain members of the Turkish gov't are going to endanger troops? Maybe a report about what a unit did in Basra 2 and a half years ago could endanger those troops (some of which had already returned home)...hmmm... that doesn't seem likely either....since none of the info was relevant to anything the troops were actually doing, I am not sure how they could have been put in danger....

      December 16, 2011 at 1:17 pm | Reply
      • Sheepleherder

        You seem to think that the people these documents referenced, have the 20-20 hind site you have. The people live basically isolated, with just outdated news that is FILTERED by others to keep them hostile to the west. The released documents were a GODSEND to the propagandist who control those "holy warriors" You really don't have ANY idea of what the rest of the world is like do you??

        December 16, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
      • Will

        So if a guy sells drugs to a kid, but the kid doesn't die from them because they weren't that strong, then it's okay. No, you break the law you pay the price. Old information, new information, doesn't make a difference. He signed the paperwork that showed he agreed to safegaurd that information and he didn't uphold it. He knew the consequences and disregarded them. If there was information on any person, naming them perhaps to an old operation, then that person's life is still in jeapordy because our enemies can still use that to their benefit. Only once the government has decided to declassify information is it okay for it to be disseminated. Until then, you do it, you broke the law, you get punished.

        December 16, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
    • Rob

      oh, I get it....you just overheard some drunk moron at a bar and assumed that everything he said was true and accurate without actually researching anything on your own (educating yourself is obviously not worth your time)

      December 16, 2011 at 1:19 pm | Reply
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        Don't assume that everyone uses your method of research.

        December 16, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
    • Trueblueamerican

      He should be shot on the White House lawn.

      December 16, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Reply
  20. CNNuthin

    None of this will matter in a few days/weeks once the law will go into effect where the military can arrest anyone they consider a "terrorist" and lock them up without trial. Bradley Manning will be labeled as such, black bagged and that will be the end.

    December 16, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Reply
  21. NN

    The fact of the matter is the Army can't actually prove Manning leaked the documents and videos, they have to round up a bunch of lackey informers, of which there is no shortage in the military , to say he told them this or that. The Army has a lot to cover here: the obvious criminal perjury and coverup in the helicopter murder investigation, the criminal negligence in properly maintaining their SIPRNET access, their criminal supervision of Manning in allowing him access, their insubordination to Executive directives prohibting harrassment of other service members because of their sexual orientation, their criminal conduct of the current investigation against and detention of Manning. The Army has quite a lot to answer for here. One conclusion is a certainty, the Army is a culture of criminal conduct, insubordination, and corruption. Any sane person would lose their moral and legal bearings in such an environment. It is good that this case and the facts surrounding it will at least get the word out that there is something seriously wrong with United States Army, we don't need to be defended by people like this, we need to be defended from people like this.

    December 16, 2011 at 12:55 pm | Reply
    • Rob

      well, that's what you get when you take all the fools that were too stupid to get into college, then take out the most intelligent of that group and put them in the Air Force, take the most athletic but not too stupid and put them in the Navy, take the more honorable ones and put them in the Marines....all you get left is the shyte that sinks to the bottom of the barrel and call it an Army....

      December 16, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Reply
      • Kevin

        Rob, sorry to ruin your spirit there, but I do believe USAFA is the best of all the academys in football and basketball...thats all I follow. NO the Navy is NOT more atheletic....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
      • Rob

        Navy is absolutely the most athletic....BUT, AF wins because its always better to work smarter, not harder....brains beats brawn every time unless you're just lifting weights....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
      • bigmama

        In the most respectful way I can possibly be, let me give you my bottomline response: You truely do not know what you are talking about–although his lawyer is just buying time, the case will reveal that B. Manning's actions negatively impacted this nation's security and he will receive the punishment he deserves. His age means nothing--the oath that he took does.

        December 16, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
      • Will

        Navy most athletic...lol Now I've heard it all.

        December 16, 2011 at 3:33 pm |
      • Chris

        You sir are ignorant and completely misinformed. What about the officers that have to have 4yr degrees in order to become officers. You know how hard it is to move up in rank in order to become a high ranking NCO. You know nothing of what you speak of because you have never been there. This is your opinion backed up by opinions, not facts. The vast majority of the Army is well educated and decent people. Who are you to talk about us when you know nothing about any of us. I am a vet of the Army and am now an Electrical Engineer for the largest transformer producer in the US. You are a disgrace to us who defend your freedom.

        December 16, 2011 at 4:08 pm |
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      Well, other than confessing it to Adrian Lamo and talking about his plans to his boyfriend? I'll be surprised if the government can't show a relationship between the documents Wikileaks published and the documents accessed by Manning's accounts.

      December 16, 2011 at 1:12 pm | Reply
      • NN

        Either the Army lost those logs or because Manning had a lot of computer savvy and is not dumb, maybe he hacked the system to cover that trail. As for Lamo, he's a convicted felon and will say anything. Dunno about the bf, I thought he dumped Manning prior to the alleged leaks.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      We'll see.

      Unlike you, I don't consider hacking a classified computer to cover my tracks the act of an innocent man, and that action isn't exactly legal, btw.

      December 16, 2011 at 1:28 pm | Reply
      • NN

        In our legal system, a person is innocent unless it can be proved otherwise beyond reasonable doubt, people are not convicted on suppositions however plausible.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:39 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        That is absolutely true. I am anxious to see how Manning's case comes out.

        December 16, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
      • sinbad

        Manning didn't do any hacking, some fool left a zipped up copy of all the state department comms just sitting on the server.

        I know many make the point that Manning's actions put lives at risk. The reality is that if a low level grunt could get this, the Russians Chinese and probably every other nation with a competent security network already had this information and probably much much more.

        Lock Manning up or let him go, who cares, the important thing is to fix security.

        December 17, 2011 at 5:32 am |
  22. Robert

    Four words, people. Don't feed the troll.

    December 16, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Reply
  23. FreshxWater

    You would think America's CHRISTIAN VALUES would support a man who exposes massive corruption, lies and murder?

    December 16, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Reply
    • buttman45

      Nope. Cause Jesus is American. And he hates people who hate our American FREEDOM!

      Also Jesus loves Rpublicans more than Democrats. I'm pretty sure Jesus lives in Texas and loves to eat cheeseburgers too. Duh.

      December 16, 2011 at 12:53 pm | Reply
      • OrangeW3dge

        But wait a minute, that is true isn't it?

        December 17, 2011 at 12:02 am |
    • Rob

      didn't you know? Chrisitan values are just like republican ones.....they want everyone out of their lives but in yours....they want to be left to do as they wish but they don't want to allow the same for others....they want guns and slaves but they also want to make sure that anyone that is different than them cannot be happy....

      December 16, 2011 at 12:55 pm | Reply
      • ronjon

        Your opinions and condemnation of others is remarkably consistent. We get it – you are a certified lefty loon. Take your meds, Judge Judy will be on soon enough.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:35 pm |
  24. Alan

    I love the geniuses on here who actually see PVT Manning as some sort of hero, and that the gov't is inherent out to get YOU by keeping secrets. Most of you have NO familiarity with the intelligence community, nor the LEGAL rules and requirements that are entailed in matters of national defense. Are there cases where information is overclassified.....certainly. Is there a comprehensive conspiracy to deprive you of your rights, or engage in some of the other fantasies people like Julian Assange and Bradley Manning conjure up....not a chance. The reality is that most folks in the intelligence community are normal people, just like you and me, and that the vast majority of the secrets kept are outside the scope of the public's "need to know". Whose determination is THAT to make.....legally, the President and authorized representatives in the gov't. Nowhere in the constitution, or any other legal statutes, is there inference that you or I have the right to take it upon ourselves to determine what is/is not secret. That determination is made based on the effect such leaks can have on national security (whether you chose to believe it or not). Even more compelling, anyone who works with classified information signs LEGAL, BINDING confidentiality and non-disclosure paperwork prior to obtaining access to such data. It’s pretty clear that, if nothing else, PVT Manning is therefore guilty of a crime. You, the media, and the courts can argue the semantics of whether it constitutes treason, aiding the enemy, etc….but the reality is that he KNOWINGLY broke the law.

    December 16, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Reply
    • Rob

      that all sounds like propaganda....

      December 16, 2011 at 12:46 pm | Reply
      • Alan

        Rob – you apparently know better than me. Exactly how long HAVE you working in the intelligence community?? Oh...wait.....you probably haven't. I'm going to geuess you get your PREFERRED version of "the truth" from the main stream media? Sorry, just because someone happens to know a bit more than you doesn't make it propeganda.....

        December 16, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
      • Rob

        I am not permitted to tell you that....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
      • Alan

        And my point is proven.....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
      • Rob

        you obviously aren't strong on the intelligence....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
      • Alan

        Clearly you're a clueless troll, who enjoys refuting arguements for the sake of getting attention. I'd almost laugh if you weren't so sad, but some folks (ie you) are just destined to believe their rhetoric....even in the face of truth. Given the fact that you've yet to provide anything substantive to back up your assertions, and this Manning clown DID break the law (whether you acknowledge laws themselves), I'd say your line of "reasoning" is inherently flawed. Do continue to blather on.....the rest of us find it amusing....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
  25. John Maxes

    With Obama as President, nothing will happen to this guy.

    December 16, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Reply
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      Just because Brian Regan got off light with a life sentence under President Bush doesn't mean that Manning will under President Obama. The Executive Branch is separate from the Judicial. That is one of the fundamental protections guaranteed in the Constitution - I'm surprised you didn't know it.

      December 16, 2011 at 1:00 pm | Reply
      • Will

        Unfortunately, Obama is also the Commander-in-Chief, which would eliminate that separation. We'll have to wait and see how that is handled. Either way, pardon or not, Obama will not make friends some where.

        December 16, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        That's the reason for the separation, not a circumvention of it! No President is supposed to be able to directly influence a court case. Yeah, they can pardon after the fact, but there is no reason to pardon Manning if he is convicted that I can see.

        December 16, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
  26. meangene52

    Sheesh. Give him a trial, then hang him.

    Why is everyone making this so hard!

    December 16, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Reply
    • John Maxes

      Hanging...that may be a little harsh, but life in MILITARY prison is ok.

      December 16, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Reply
      • Will

        Not so harsh in reality to the rules. If found guilty of treason, during war time, execution is an option. However, hanging isn't the norm for the military. In the past, a firing squad has been the preferred method.

        December 16, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
  27. Rob327

    lets be real here, he is not a HERO and is not a TERRORIST, while he may have thought his actions were for good, they could have put a lot uniformed Americans' lives in danger because he was not at a level to understand the extent to which the information could cause harm. If he really want to right an injustice he should have sought out an experienced journalist instead of just haphazardly posting documents.

    December 16, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Reply
    • Jake

      Haphazardly? He submitted the documents to an established and reputed medium that spent MONTHS successfully removing any names or information that could incriminate anyone on the ground. This medium then turned over the information to, you know, reputed journalists – The Guardian, Le Monde, El Pais, New York Times, etc. Maybe YOU should start getting your facts straight!

      December 16, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Reply
      • Jabber

        Actullay, you should be getting your facts straight........the first batch of info released still had names of informants attached.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
      • Sheepleherder

        He didn't "submit" documents to "an established and reputed medium", that's a moronic and infantile excuse. He KNOWINGLY released classified documents to an organization that PRIDES itself on releasing secrets regardless of how it effects anyone! Wikileaks released those documents completely unredacted. SOME of those that received those documents made some effort to redact them, but this traitor and wikileaks could have cared less about the safety of any of the people mentioned in the documents. You statement is just flat-out a LIE!

        December 16, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
      • Rob

        Sheeplehearder, you just made it ABSOLTUTELY clear that you have never looked at the documents and have formed an incorrect opinion based on false info from poorly written news articles....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
      • Sheepleherder

        Rob, if you prefer to distort the FACTS to fit some delusion of your hero striking some great and heroic blow against tyranny, go ahead on. It doesn't make it true.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
      • Rob

        you need to stop getting your "facts" from a group of drunks in a bar....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
    • Rob

      and furthermore, it was dated material that had no relevance to anything going on at the time it was released. The only dangers this created was to the careers of politicians that sent low class emails....

      December 16, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Reply
      • JH

        How about he and you act like an AMERICAN. Protect your country and fellow Americans. This guy sickens me. Your defense of him sickens me. He did not out a corrupt politician, he is just another weasel who did not make the HS football team, and probably spent his youth gaming against warlords and dragons. There is no excuse or valid reason for what he did, and putting any of our military in harms way is unacceptable, even if it was by small percentages. How about he got one out of several thousand soldiers killed, but that one was your son or daughter? When he signed on with the military, he agreed to a contract to not do what he has done. I do not see anyone mentioning that. Hang him, the cost of a bullet would be a waste.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
      • Sheepleherder

        He stole and released classified documents that, at least, had the potential to get people killed. Whether anyone did or didn't is beside the point. He made no effort to redact names, he made no effort to assure those documents didn't contain secrets that would be valuable to the enemy, he did NOTHING NOBLE or "patriotic". He DIDN'T CARE if anyone got killed because of what he did. Your argument as to the age or relevance of the documents is beside the point.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
      • Rob

        JH, there is NOTHING less american than whining about others expressing their views....the only thing "american" about you is your ignorance and hate...

        December 16, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
      • Rob

        you are obviously new to the topic....NOTHING current was released...MOST of it was documents from a previous administration. MOST of it was political communications from ambassadors and had nothing to do with troops. MOST of it was embarrassing for the people who had sent the communications. The outrage from the gov't is because they were outed as crass, low-class jerkoffs, NOT because of some strategic info....Exactly ZERO soldiers were endangered by the info that went public....

        December 16, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
      • Alan

        Rob – I love the hypicritical approach to arguements you use. You deride the entire premise of national security (writ large), and yet defend PVT Manning base on your perception that it didn't endanger troops directly (a more narrow interpretation). Apparently you don't understand or accept the reality that national defense.....while intersecting with military matters....extends to a wider scope. There may be an intersection between the two, but just because you don't see that interactions between gov't officials (especially those stationed abroad) CAN have an impact on military matters.., they actually due.

        Regardless, how is it that YOU are qualified to make the determination that this information was outdated or irrelevant. Oh, wait.....the media told you so? Or, was it a divine ephiphany?

        December 16, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
      • Rob

        it's called having "access"....TS compartmentalized clearance...do you really think this site is only used by non-government employees?

        December 16, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
  28. Liberty Queen IS AN IDIOT

    For anyone who thinks that PFC Manning is a HERO and deserves a "Medal Of Honor" is tuly an IDIOT !!! He maybe a hero for others, but he certainly does not qualify for nor deserve a MOH.

    December 16, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Reply
    • Rob

      of course he doesn't deserve the MOH....but neither does this other guy that got one.....his unit all claimed that they witnessed him do all these amazing things in a battle while they were busy getting shot at while the embedded reporter who was there to watch and record missed it all.....the unit claimed the soldier saved the lives of 13 US soldiers....there were only 12 soldiers on the mission and 4 were killed....the unit claimed he left his turret to pull 24 wounded afghani's onto a truck....the reporter saw him in his turret the entire time while 6 afghani's got themselves into an armored Humvee....

      December 16, 2011 at 12:59 pm | Reply
  29. Frank

    President Obama should give the kid a full pardon.

    December 16, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Reply
  30. Andrew Tirado

    This kid is not a terrorist. He's more of a patriot. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. This was a courageous thing he did, and those people who can't deal with it really need to look in the mirror. Governments all around the world like to spy on anyone and everyone, but when someone exposes a spy agency for what it is then alll hell breaks loose. Gimme a break.

    December 16, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Reply
    • Rob327

      agreed that he is not a terrorist and should not be prosecuted as such, but still should receive punishment for breaching protocol that could have endangered the lives of his fellow combatants.

      December 16, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Reply
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      A hero? Really? You could type that with a straight face?

      Even if he did what he was accused of doing with honorable intentions – lets say exposing corruption or abuses – there is nothing in the whistle blowing process that allows classified materiel to be handed over to Wikileaks. That just isn't how it works. He swore and oath and signed papers priomising to protect classified material. If he did what he is accused of, he not only failed to do so passively, he actively gave classified material to people he knew were not authorized to see it.

      To call him a hero is like praising someone who shoots their neighbor's dog for barking instead of calling the police or intentionally running over jay walker.

      Welcome to the real world - it doesn't work the way you think it does.

      December 16, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Reply
      • Rob

        anywhere but the military and he'd be under the protection of whistleblower laws.....they only thing corrupt in this situation is the military which Manning has illustrated quite well....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
  31. Rob327

    For all of you screaming about what is Constitutional, please read it before you open your mouth, you will be amazed by what it does not say and what you do not know

    December 16, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Reply
  32. Brian

    More Mannings, fewer Sheep, please.

    December 16, 2011 at 12:07 pm | Reply
    • Rob327

      more educated people and fewer of you please, moron

      December 16, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Reply
      • Rob

        that would mean that you have to log off now....

        December 16, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • Squeeker

      More dead, ignorant sheep could help feed this starving world. This punk is a traitor and had NO RIGHT to take on the roll of calling the shots in what OUR government should or should not share with the world. I hope you feel safer because of his actions... stupid sheep!

      December 16, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Reply
  33. Jake

    Regardless of what may happen to him, history will remember Bradley Manning as the man who singlehandedly ended the Iraq War. If if weren't for the information he released to the public, the Iraqi government would have continued to accept a status quo occupation for decades to come.

    This guy is a hero, and (unfortunately) will probably end up as martyr for those who ACTUALLY believe in "Liberty and Justice for All."

    December 16, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Reply
    • Rob327

      misinformed morons, got to love them because they make the rest of us look like geniuses.

      December 16, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Reply
      • Jake

        If I'm misinformed then please, by all means, inform me.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
      • Rob327

        while you will remember "the man who singlehandedly ended the Iraq War," the rest of us wont. Your sensationalist stupidity should be the definition of misinformed and yes the words of an imbecile

        December 16, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
      • Jake

        Typically people that are nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize while being jailed for political reasons tend to be remembered and celebrated by a lot of people. But hey, maybe that's just me.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
      • Rob327

        name one person nominated for Nobel peace prize who did it in this fashion. his methods were careless and dangerous. and again you say general statements with such a sensationalist flare, good for you for being a media tool.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
      • Rob

        I am finding few people less informed than Rob327....its like he made up a POV and then invented "facts" to support it....

        December 16, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
    • JH

      Jake,
      While I respect and defend your right to speak your mind, you are one lost individual. It is sad to me that so many American's lost their lives so that you can speak freely. To put them in harms way in any way, shape or form, is unconscionable. Please study the history of our country, and try to dig deep to find a patriotic bone in your body. Then expand on that, and one day you might be worthy of being called an American. Not one soldier who put their lives on the line daily, deserve to hear your words or sentiments. Not one of them deserve anymore than our utmost love, respect and support, for the daily sacrifices that they make, while you trot on down to Starbucks and get your frappaccino, while you kick back, and put your Birkenstocks up on a table someone else has to clean. Fight hard to find your soul and your American spirit and allegiance.

      December 16, 2011 at 12:57 pm | Reply
  34. JThomas2121

    Ironic that a guy who had no problem divulging secrets wants proceedings and documents relating to HIS case to not be made public.

    December 16, 2011 at 11:58 am | Reply
    • Rob327

      good catch

      December 16, 2011 at 12:00 pm | Reply
    • Doug Mustard

      I say they make the hearings private and then leak all the information out in real time and add a few things to it just for kicks.

      December 16, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Reply
  35. Dan

    Lets put Liberty Queen in a cell where he belongs with Jerry Sandusky so ole Jer can take care of business. Liberty Queen is upset about his latent homosexuality and is trying to fight it with tough words. Get off the Occupy bandwagon and educate yourself, fool.

    December 16, 2011 at 11:57 am | Reply
  36. Bill

    I'm sick of ignorant people calling the US a police state. You might try looking it up once and get a clear understanding of what a police state means. If this was a police state, this guy would have just vanished, or never been allowed a trial.

    December 16, 2011 at 11:47 am | Reply
    • Harold Trainer, USAF RET

      Most classified documents a lot more than most are classified to protect the government and military from the people knowing about their stupidity.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:49 am | Reply
    • Rob327

      agreed

      December 16, 2011 at 11:52 am | Reply
    • Doug Mustard

      How many have vanished that you don't know about? In this case they had to have a name on the person who made the leaks otherwise it would have been a witch hunt all the way to the top when the info showed up on wikileaks.

      December 16, 2011 at 12:17 pm | Reply
  37. Whatever

    Funny how CNN fails to prominently display this story, contrary to other news outlets (BBC, Guardian etc.) who without even being from the states find this important enough to have it on their homepage.

    Also funny how CNN states that Almanza only granted the defense 4 out of 28 witnesses they requested, where those other news outlets state they only got 2 out of 48, where the prosecution got ALL 20 WITNESSES THEY REQUESTED!
    Anyway, to much mis- or non-information in this piece, seems the US-democracy must stay based on keeping its citizens dumb. If you want to stay informed: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/dec/16/bradley-manning-hearing-live-updates

    December 16, 2011 at 11:42 am | Reply
    • Rob327

      hey "Whatever", whatever!

      December 16, 2011 at 11:53 am | Reply
  38. Veritas

    The fact that a military court is even entertaining the Manning case is a travesty of justice. Manning confessed; there's no need for a trial. Give him life without parole for high treason.

    December 16, 2011 at 11:39 am | Reply
    • svann

      Do you have a cite for that or is it just something you heard in the bar?

      December 16, 2011 at 11:48 am | Reply
      • Harold Trainer, USAF RET

        Sounds kind of stupid to me.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:50 am |
    • Whatever

      It's people like you who keep democracy alive. Way to go redneck!

      December 16, 2011 at 11:50 am | Reply
  39. slippery

    Violate your oath of service and you are nothing. Manning is nothing.

    December 16, 2011 at 11:38 am | Reply
    • dura ace

      Right, lame-brain. Manning's support of the Constitution out-shines anything any other "soldier" has ever done.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:54 am | Reply
      • propmgr34

        You need to really read the Constitution. I'm sure you're not awareof all that is, and is not, in there.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:41 pm |
    • Rob

      MAKE an oath of service and you are nothing.....

      December 16, 2011 at 1:10 pm | Reply
  40. Kyne

    Yeah, kill the messenger and protect those who really did wrong. This is a keep-face-trial. If you don't want your neighbor to find out you called him a moron behind his back, don't call him a moron behind his back. If you don't want anyone to find out your armed forces don't care about killing civilians, then see that they do care about killing civilians. Diplomats and soldiers enjoy special protection and rarely have to face consequences for their deeds and dealings, whistle-blowing is about the only thing they have to fear. We need to protect whistleblowers, not prosecute them.

    December 16, 2011 at 11:35 am | Reply
    • Rob327

      your right if you want to call your neighbor a moron than than call them a moron, so I am calling you a sensationalist moron.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:55 am | Reply
      • Rob327

        *"you're"

        December 16, 2011 at 12:07 pm |
  41. Limbaugh is a liberal

    When a Chinese man reveals Chinese government secrets or defies Chinese law, we call him a fighter for freedom who should be paraded as a hero. When one of our guys the same thing to our government, he is a a dangerous traitor who should be locked up for good...

    December 16, 2011 at 11:30 am | Reply
    • Jabber

      I'm pretty sure the Chinese would still consider him a traitor though.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:39 am | Reply
    • Veritas

      @Limbaugh – And when Saddam Hussein murders 100,000 Iraqis deliberately, he's referred to by your camp as the democratically elected leader of an "innocent" nation that should not be invaded without "just cause". When the US military kills 100,000 Iraqis by accident during an 8 year war, it's because George W Bush is genocidal and a tyrant.

      Inconsistencies exist on your side of the political spectrum as well, you see.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:45 am | Reply
      • dura ace

        Killing by "accident" is still considered Manslaughter and WMD were a tyrants excuse for those murders. Under your thinking should we should accept the arguments of the Church of England and the Vatican's discounting Galileo and Darwin's research?

        December 16, 2011 at 12:07 pm |
  42. Mohammed

    They should immediately look for a new judge. In the meantime he can sit in Gitmo. I'm sure if they look hard enough they just might find a different judge who'll soon finish kindergarten.

    December 16, 2011 at 11:20 am | Reply
  43. lanred

    When you join the military you understand there are rules, and that you must follow the rules, you are not forced to join and follow these rules. He had multiple chances to leave and not follow those rules. But he didn't he stayed in, and broke them, displayed sensitive material. Commited a crime, and now he must serve the time.

    December 16, 2011 at 11:16 am | Reply
    • Neeneko

      The military also needs to follow rules, and in general even within military court you need to recuse judges with a conflict of interests.. and being both judge and prosecutor on essentially the same case is pretty up there.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:27 am | Reply
    • Maryann

      Yeah, sensitive material, like Angela Merkel has cooties. Most of what was leaked was a he-said, she-said, high school stuff....The material was released, the world didn't blow up...yet this young man has been held in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT for TWO YEARS!!!

      And people say this isn't a police state? "Following orders" is what the Nazi's did.

      December 16, 2011 at 12:00 pm | Reply
      • Stella

        Are you seriously comparing us to the Nazi party? You're very misinformed.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
      • Brian

        You really think the U.S. is a police state? Then GET OUT.

        Saying that "following orders" is a fascist trait is absurd. That's how ALL societies function. Next time your boss tells you to do something, tell him/her "No, following orders is fo Nazis." Good luck keeping your job in ANY society, with that perspective...

        December 16, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
      • JH

        Maryann,

        I am almost speechless when I try to determine you IQ level from reading your words. So to follow your logic, a terrorist brings a dirty bomb into LA or NY, and it does not go off. They should be set free, because according to you, no one was hurt. Please do not procreate. This man singed a contract spoken and unspoken when he joined the military. He needs to swing from the neck until dead. I would be more than happy to pull the lever.

        December 16, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
  44. JW

    They can't possibly call this justice if they don't get rid of the potentially biased investigating officer–need him to be impartial under Army Regulation 15-6. And if he works for DOJ, there is clearly a conflict of interest. Do the right thing Army!

    December 16, 2011 at 11:14 am | Reply
  45. Nelson Colorado Springs Co

    Army private suspected of being behind the biggest intelligence leak in U.S. history, Private Bradley Manning is found quilty he should be given the death penalty. Hang him, teach him a lesson

    December 16, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply
    • Liberty Queen

      Nelson: You are just a tool and enforcer for global thugs and pimps.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:46 am | Reply
      • Rob327

        Queen, you are the only tool here

        December 16, 2011 at 11:57 am |
      • Jabber

        Queen – the more you babble, the more irrelevant you become. Have a nice day🙂

        December 16, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
    • Mike

      Yeah hanging him will certainly teach him a lesson to not do that again won't it?

      December 16, 2011 at 11:49 am | Reply
  46. Liberty Queen

    Army PFC Bradley Manning is a HERO exposing the real TRAITORS who violate the Constitution of the United States and of sovereign people all over this Beautiful Planet. PFC Bradley Manning took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States and he did exactly that. You limp-writed corporate oath takers instead go to other lands and violate our Constitution by committing murder, rape and genocide against sovereign people. The only soldier who upheld the Oath is PFC Bradley Manning. The real TRAITORS are you little robots for the global, corporate, militiary-industrial thugs who send you all over the world so you can uphold your brainwashed idea of an oath to these global punks. YOU are the FOOLS. YOU are the real TRAITORS of our Constitution. PFC Bradley Manning deserves the Medal of Honor.

    December 16, 2011 at 11:07 am | Reply
    • PudninTane

      Liberty Queen, you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you even know what Manning did or understand the events? It doesn't appear you have your facts straight. Your comment does not make sense.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:15 am | Reply
      • Neeneko

        Actually, the entire classification system is indeed unconstitutional and was created without congressional oversight.. the executive branch just sorta took the power to do so back in the 40s and never released it.

        Though at this point it is defacto rule of the land, and unconstitutional or not it will be enforced.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:29 am |
      • Liberty Queen

        Pudnin Tane: I know precisely what I am talking about and it is the truth of what the military is which is nothing more than an enforcement arm of global thugs and pimps, so KMA.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:48 am |
      • Whatever

        Your arguments leave me baffled, what a way with words you have. You showed him/her! Perfect explanation of what facts Liberty Queen has wrong, shows a real understanding on your part.
        Oh no, you're just yelling.....

        December 16, 2011 at 11:48 am |
    • James

      Have you ever even read the Constitution? Mind sharing some quotes from it showing where we are all being "TRAITORS"?

      December 16, 2011 at 11:15 am | Reply
    • Jabber

      Wow! Do you actually think for yourself much?? The majority of people serve in the military because of a sense of duty to protect this country and what it stands for. The very few that do "commit murder, rape, and genocide" are held accountable for their actions much in the same way as Bradley Manning is. Although I would love to hear from you exactly where anyone in the US military has committed genocide. Sounds like a lot of liberal propaganda...

      If found guilty, the only thing Bradley Manning deserves is a bullet.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:18 am | Reply
      • dura ace

        uh huh, the majority serve in the military because they flunk-out of college, are drug addicts, un-convicted criminals or blinding by the veil of corporate greed. Manning is a brilliant young patriot, man of the year along w/ Assange, a was hero and certainly a potential metal-of-honor recipient.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:49 am |
      • Liberty Queen

        Jabber: You're the robot and yes, I've watched several times, the very film exposed by Hero PFC Bradley Manning showing you sick sob's in gunships shooting innocent Iraqi civilians and laughing about it and then running over them with tanks. So KMA punk.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:51 am |
    • Randy Johnson

      AMEN. When helicopter jocks shoot civilians and laugh about it – then I want to know about it. End of discussion. If you want to stick your head in the sand and believe the great gods called our leaders then yah for sure lock him up and throw away the key. But then don't whine about government corruption or getting your tax dollars spent on things like stupid wars. Manning deserves a medal not a prison sentence.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:20 am | Reply
    • Dan

      Liberty Queen, are you an "Occupier" as well? You have no concept of the Oath of Office. Part of that is the "special trust and confidence" you are charged with and the protection of secrets pertaining to National Security. It doesnt matter how much you hate our freedoms here in the United States. You can't reveal matters with the potential to damage our national security. Its a shame people like you have a vote that counts equal to people living on this planet because you are obviously from Mars. You just don't get it sweet pea...

      December 16, 2011 at 11:20 am | Reply
      • Neeneko

        Not part of the original oath, in fact we managed 150 years without a security state.... the whole system was put in place in order to hide production of the atomic bomb from civilian oversight (read: congress) and after it went public the executive branch never dismantled the system but instead kept expanding it.

        PotS never had this kind of power and legally still doesn't... but we have a precident based legal system so since frighted courts during the red scare said 'ok', modern courts are also bound by those decisions... so an illegal system defacto becomes legal by virtue of tradition.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:34 am |
    • Destructo

      Do you think everything the army does should be put out for everyone to see? Please explain the medal of honor reasoning. Liberty Queen answer this one honestly..k. Do you like the way we americans live? Do you like your lifestyle? and oh yea you really live like a queen.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:22 am | Reply
    • Liberty Queen IS AN IDIOT

      enough said...

      December 16, 2011 at 11:29 am | Reply
    • Rob327

      Queen, you are the royalty of stupidity and ignorance to reality

      December 16, 2011 at 11:58 am | Reply
    • jack

      Hmm... last time I checked I hadn't raped anyone. However, I did hand out food and clothing to Iraqi children and defend your freedom. When was the last time you put yourself on at risk for anyone?

      December 16, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Reply
    • Brian

      "Section. 8.

      The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"

      Weird, the Constitution also says "provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States". The classification of sensitive materials is supposed to do EXACTLY that. So before you spout nonsense about the Constitution being infringed upon, I implore you read more than just the Bill of Rights.

      December 16, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Reply
    • JH

      Liberty Shite, uh Queen,

      Please take the next plane, train, or automobile to Mexico, South America, China, GB, or anywhere else that agrees with your stupidity. America is suffering because you live here.

      December 16, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Reply
  47. the_dude

    I bet he wants a new judge. I bet he keeps asking for a new judge until he gets one that says "innocent".

    December 16, 2011 at 11:07 am | Reply
  48. Captain Obvious

    The funny thing is that the vast majority of Bradley Manning's supporters don't even know what his real motivation was. It wasn't to expose war crimes as they assume. It was because his boyfriend was lecturing him on serving in the military when he could not openly serve as gay. He leaked in protest to don't ask, don't tell and to impress his boyfriend.

    December 16, 2011 at 11:04 am | Reply
    • Neeneko

      Funny, this 'real motivation' seems to mostly be a fabrication of conservative commentators,.. his own description differs.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:43 am | Reply
      • Captain Obvious

        Unfortunately for him, he didn't realize that IM chats are saved on the server. He discussed leaking the information with a hacker while using a government computer. They retrieved his chats where he tells the hacker that he's about to be thrown out of the military for being gay. And how exposing their secrets would get back at them. The reality was he was about to be dishonorably discharged for punching a female soldier in the face. Some people want to make a hero out of this guy without knowing the truth about his character.

        As for conservative media, I wouldn't know. I'm a moderate liberal if anything. I support the right of gays and lesbians to openly serve, get married or do whatever else they like. What this guy did wasn't about politics. Though he would like to make it appear so to gain any support he can.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
  49. Mbane

    So the land of the free doesn't believe in freedom of information?

    December 16, 2011 at 11:01 am | Reply
    • Jimmy hat

      Not when it threatens National Security nomrod

      December 16, 2011 at 11:03 am | Reply
      • Wilhelm

        nomrod? nomnomnomnomnom

        December 16, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • V

      No, not when it is classified. Not everything is or should be public information. Like info that can endanger others, your full name and bank account number, the location of someone in danger, etc. All rights, such as freedom of speech END when they impose on anyone, they are not unlimited rights.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:08 am | Reply
    • James

      You're joking right? Freedom of information doesn't mean you get to know EVERYTHING. If the general population had access to EVERY piece of govenment info, do you have any idea of how many of our troops including spies and special forces would be dead??

      December 16, 2011 at 11:08 am | Reply
    • wjshelton

      No.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply
    • James

      Ya MBane.. mind sharing your bank account, social, mothers maiden name, birthday etc with the group? Didn't think so.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply
    • Destructo

      Mbane how much info is too much info. Do you think we should get rid of the armed forces and the cia. do you think the nations that dont like the way live should be able to see what our countrys military is doing? What do you think we should do to stave off threats from hostile nations.? ask you if its ok?

      December 16, 2011 at 11:30 am | Reply
    • Rob327

      oh he believes everything his mommy tells him too: like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. grow up and welcome to reality.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:59 am | Reply
  50. big od

    someone please get an on-line prosecution fund set up

    December 16, 2011 at 11:00 am | Reply
  51. Smokey

    What's wrong with you people, he has not been tried yet and you people are calling him a traitor. He is charged and is a suspect. You fools are so quick to pass judgement. I only hope he gets a fair trial. the nature of his detention so far is an embarrasment for the govt

    December 16, 2011 at 10:58 am | Reply
    • gratular

      Every person accusing someone of doing something wrong via info they heard on the television are idiots.. And usually Fox News watchers..

      December 16, 2011 at 10:59 am | Reply
    • Jabber

      So.....let me get this straight..........can't call him a traitor because the allegations against him haven't been proven, but we should be ashamed of his alleged mistreatment........which also hasn't been proven.......

      December 16, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply
      • Whatever

        For starters he's been in jail for 1 1/2 years without a trail even having started (until now). But then again, you americans don't seem to have a problem with sticking people in jail for decades without charge, so what can be expected.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:57 am |
      • jarhead

        So let me get this straight... if i call the police and tell them that Jabber just raped my dog and then they come and put you in jail before anything is proven against you, would you consider your year in high security prison an "alleged mistreatment" or an actual one?

        December 16, 2011 at 12:25 pm |
  52. JCDavis

    Thank god for Bradley Manning. Without the documents he released to Wikileaks, we'd still have twenty thousand troops in Iraq. Our troops would still be dying for no reason.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:52 am | Reply
    • Jimmy hat

      Whatever. There's ALWAYS going to be dying in the Islamic world. It's in the Koran. They still live in the 8th century

      December 16, 2011 at 10:54 am | Reply
      • Whatever

        Seems like it is a lot like the us. When was the last time you guys didn't invade a sovereign country for whatever reason you can come up with?

        December 16, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
    • Captain Obvious

      No we wouldn't. The withdrawal was planned and scheduled well before this happened. Obama campaigned on bringing our troops home by the end of 2011. Go write another fairy tale and get back to me.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:55 am | Reply
      • Rob

        Before Obama, the estimated withdrawl date was in 2018...

        December 16, 2011 at 1:39 pm |
    • gratular

      a character in a book "God" has nothing to do with it, its all about one brave soldier that has more balls than all soldiers put together, one Bradley Manning. A true American. A true patriot. A real man..

      December 16, 2011 at 10:57 am | Reply
      • Jimmy hat

        Yeah, balls. Why didn't he go infantry then duh?

        December 16, 2011 at 10:59 am |
    • Liberty Queen

      Gratular is right, PFC Bradley Manning is a Hero.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:17 am | Reply
      • Rob327

        he is a traitor.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:59 am |
  53. suneclipser

    OK, Manning is the bad guy here, He broke his oath, and disclosed secret information. He should go down hard. But, we should be thanking WikiLeaks, and Julian Assange, for revealing the truth. Jullian Assange made no such oath, and had no such obligation to keep secrets.
    The reality that war is hell, and results in death and misery for so many innocent people is well known. And, the fact that people in the military are trigger happy surprises nobody. It's too bad that a young man like Manning has to throw his life away to reveal details to us what the military is unwilling to, and the media is afraid to....

    December 16, 2011 at 10:51 am | Reply
    • Jimmy hat

      oh, don't worry ASSange will get his thanks

      December 16, 2011 at 10:53 am | Reply
    • gratular

      It is not mannings oath to break the law. Laws were being broken, and Manning let people know when his superiors did nothing about it.. he is a true hero..

      December 16, 2011 at 10:58 am | Reply
      • Jimmy hat

        WRONG

        December 16, 2011 at 11:03 am |
      • Justin

        And leaking all this information was the right thing to do? Put every man and woman in uniform at risk? BRILLIANT!! Yes. I suggest you put on a uniform and see how you feel.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:06 am |
    • Justin

      And what purpose does knowing the 'truth' serve? ZERO. What happened would have happened regardless. It will continue to happen. You knowing the 'truth' will not change what has yet to happen. You people are SO BLIND.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:03 am | Reply
    • Captain Obvious

      If Assnage had contact with Manning prior to receiving the classified information and knew he was sending it, he can be prosecuted as a conspirator to treason. If he didn't know anything about it and it just showed up in his email one day, he can't. Either way, he's a rapist and should be put to death for that reason alone.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:07 am | Reply
    • Liberty Queen

      PFC Bradley Manning exposed atrocities committed by little punks with 2 inches of nothing in gunships slaughtering people in a sovereign land. Get over and get some balls boys!

      December 16, 2011 at 11:20 am | Reply
  54. Captain Obvious

    I fail to see how being a member of the military is a conflict of interest in a military trial.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:48 am | Reply
    • CNNuthin

      It is a good defense strategy. Pretty much anyone with Political and Military background can be considered having a conflict of interest. Can't have a fair trial if the judge is mad at you. This will drag on for a long time.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:57 am | Reply
      • Captain Obvious

        With it being a military court, military law allows for the presiding officer to be a member of the military. In fact, I don't think it's even possible for a civilian to preside over a military court marshal.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:09 am |
    • WOEWYT

      Did u read the article? Alamanza has civilian connection... He is a prosecutor for DOJ.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:11 am | Reply
    • Liberty Queen

      Hey Captain Stupid, if you read the article it's Obvious, however, since it's not Obvious to you, here's the direct quote from the article: "Attorney David Coombs said Lt. Col. Paul Almanza, the presiding officer, should step down. Among Coombs four objections was that Almanza, an Army reservist, had a conflict of interest with his civilian job with the Justice Department, which is investigating WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange." That's pretty Obvious, eh? Excellent and valid objection by the Defense Attorney for Bradley Manning. All Hail PFC Bradley Manning... HOORAH!

      December 16, 2011 at 11:27 am | Reply
  55. James

    Also it could be a conflict of interest for that very reason... he will have had access to proprietary info that would make for an unfair trial.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:48 am | Reply
  56. Liberty Queen

    Bradley Manning is a Hero. Doing the right thing supercedes a stupid oath and the rights of sovereign individuals supercedes the 'interests' of nation-states. The people are the power behind nation-states and it is our right to expose the injustices, illegalities, immoralities and genocides of nation-states. All you little mechanistic robots who think your stupid oaths are the ultimate are grossly mistaken and you are the very ones who all commit collective cooperative slaughter on behalf of your stupid little flags against women, children, animals... every living thing all over this beautiful Earth. The sovereign right of the individual is superior to you any day in every way.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:47 am | Reply
    • Jimmy hat

      Go back to China idiot

      December 16, 2011 at 10:49 am | Reply
      • Liberty Queen

        Hey Jimmy Hat, You already live in China you fascist!

        December 16, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    • James

      Look at you attempting to use big words.. Too bad you come off like an idiot using completely redundant phrases like "mechanistic robots" and "collective cooperative".

      December 16, 2011 at 10:57 am | Reply
      • Liberty Queen

        LMFAO James!

        December 16, 2011 at 11:30 am |
    • Justin

      Since you're so smart, you should tell us all what stereotyping means. You're very good at it.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply
    • Liberty Queen

      that's "limp-wristed"... that would be you soldiers for the global thugs.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply
  57. gratular

    Sgt Manning has my full support. it is rare when someone has the courage to out their superiors for their wrongdoings.. Those against Bradley Manning and what he has done are treasonous..

    December 16, 2011 at 10:46 am | Reply
    • Jimmy hat

      I'm a vet. So if you're against me, I'm against you. Go back to Syria or Egypt or Iran or Iraq

      December 16, 2011 at 10:48 am | Reply
      • gratular

        I'm not from the middle east, why would i go there? Well i get your point, none of us that call ourselves "American" really are. Only Mexicans and Natives are from America, so i guess any of us with white skin can go back to europe where our families came from illegally.

        December 16, 2011 at 10:54 am |
      • buttman45

        Just cause you are too dumb to get a real job doesn't mean that you speak for all Americans.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
    • Jimmy hat

      And he was a PFC, not a SGT.

      Don't insult non-coms

      December 16, 2011 at 10:52 am | Reply
    • Captain Obvious

      You sir, are an idiot. It is treason to hand over classified information, period. The material he leaked contained the names of intelligence agents and informants operating in foreign territories to fight terrorism. What he did put their lives and those operations at risk. For this, he deserves nothing less than the death penalty.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:53 am | Reply
    • SGT Bell

      SGT? This guy is a Private. Get your facts straight before you get behind something. As for standing up, what the guy did was against UCMJ plain and simple. He stole classified infomation.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:53 am | Reply
    • Jimmy hat

      yeah, Mexicans. They're descendants from the Spanish.
      Which is in Europe.
      duh

      December 16, 2011 at 10:56 am | Reply
      • Iamsam

        facepalm.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:07 am |
      • buttman45

        HAHAHA! We have a winner!

        You sir are the DUMBEST person here. Read a book. Take a 3rd grade history class... Do SOMETHING to stop being so stupid.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • Justin

      You support someone putting innocent lives at risk? Gee thanks! Apparently you know nothing about the crime that was committed by this little twit, or the ones he was tattling on.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:11 am | Reply
  58. Jimmy hat

    Yeah, his lawyer recused himself because he doesn't want to defend a TRAITOR

    December 16, 2011 at 10:44 am | Reply
    • gratular

      a traitor is someone who know's someone is doing wrong and lets them continue to do it.. Bradley Manning is a hero for outing criminals within the US Military.. A patriot is someone who supports their country not someone who lets it do criminal acts hiding behind a uniform.. Bradley Manning embodies a patriot.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:47 am | Reply
      • Jimmy hat

        BM embodies a TRAITOR

        December 16, 2011 at 10:50 am |
      • James

        Those "criminal act" are what keep you safe at night. They are what allow you to have the freedoms you enjoy everyday. Trust me, I wish that we could get information from terrorists by cuddling it out of them but it just doesn't work that way...

        December 16, 2011 at 10:51 am |
      • Jabber

        Bradley Manning is a pinhead and so are you. You MIGHT by able to justify releasing the videos of the chopper attack by saying he was exposing criminal acts, but how do you justify releasing 250k diplomatic messages? Transparency? Get real.

        December 16, 2011 at 10:55 am |
      • gratular

        James: Democrats keep me safe at night, not the military... The military are overseas in countries they have no business CREATING terrorism, that is not keeping you and me safe, that is attempting to make things more dangerous..

        December 16, 2011 at 10:55 am |
      • Justin

        He put every soldier in uniform at risk. But, thanks for your well thought out argument...

        December 16, 2011 at 11:12 am |
      • Liberty Queen

        James, you don't keep anyone safe at night. You are a hazard to freedom and liberty everywhere. You are nothing but a shill, a tool and and terrorist for global thugs. Get off your delusional idea of being the one who protects our freedoms. WE THE PEOPLE, including PFC Bradley Manning, protect and defend our freedoms each and every day while you morons and tools for global punks go out and slaughter sovereign people in other lands so they can make money on their weaponry sales, oil sales and the global sex trade in women and children in their quest and fight over who is in control of what turf, just like the little gang-bangers on street corners of the USA. You've been owned, punk. How's that for a literary smack-down.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:40 am |
  59. AL

    That is not a conflict, if anything it will have all the information required to proof that this guy should be made to disappear from the planet and never seen again. If this is all his defense has, get the rope ready for this TRADER. This is not freedom of speech for many people had their lives endangered by this TRADER.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:41 am | Reply
    • Jimmy hat

      uh, TRAITOR

      December 16, 2011 at 10:45 am | Reply
    • James

      *Traitor... he doesn't work on wall st.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:45 am | Reply
    • Ryan

      Trader? This is not an occupy Wall Street post. Traitor might be what you are looking for.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:47 am | Reply
    • Matt

      It is TRAITOR you moron.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:52 am | Reply
    • Joe

      Unfortunately this kid has 0 shot at a fair trial. The UCMJ is about as corrupt as a legal system can get. Hopefully there will be more like him in the future so our extremely corrupt government is held accountable for its actions.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:55 am | Reply
      • Jimmy hat

        he doesn't deserve one.

        December 16, 2011 at 10:58 am |
      • PudninTane

        Okay, Joe clearly knows nothing about the UCMJ.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:09 am |
      • Justin

        Seemed to work for MAJ Hasan though yes? I mean.... he's still breathing.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:13 am |
  60. Beth

    I am concerned that one man was able to access so much classified information. The system that allowed this to happen needs to be investigated. I am also concerned with WIKIleaks attitude that all information should be public. What we could end up with is a culture of no privacy for anyone, not just government. I realize that government and business tends to classify everything and that does need to be addressed. What scares me is that society today seems to be heading to a practice of share everything about everybody. Right now it is mostly limited to celebrities but it won't be long before that changes to going after information about all of us.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:40 am | Reply
  61. Cassandra Chu

    ... this guy is a HERO. he did more for America than the entire State Dept and Foreign Service. American politics are/were supposed to be about TRANSPARENCY.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:40 am | Reply
    • Jimmy hat

      Traitor

      December 16, 2011 at 10:44 am | Reply
      • ANON

        Idiot

        December 16, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • JTH

      Would you really want all aspect of government to be available to anyone at any time. What about police investigations?Undercover cops? Conversations between governments? There are a lot of instances when a government takes a hard line public stance but, "man to man" so to speak, work out a deal on a sensitive topic. Hostage negotiations come to mind. What about you personally?....should the IRS provide all tax data (name income SS#, etc)on anyone in the interest of transparency. What we have here is a guy who was upset at the army and wanted to get a little pay back.... he got caught. Not a hero not a Brutus, just a guy who got caught and he should be tried like any other criminal.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:55 am | Reply
  62. Se777en

    Bradley Manning is not a traitor. What he is in trouble for is exposing the real traitors.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:40 am | Reply
    • Jimmy hat

      It wasn't his place. In fact, it was his SWORN DUTY TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. And he did not fulfill that duty which makes him a TRAITOR

      December 16, 2011 at 10:47 am | Reply
  63. Terry

    So, the Whistleblower Protection Act does not cover this young man. Did they ever find those WMD's?

    December 16, 2011 at 10:40 am | Reply
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      It doesn't help him here. If he had acted legally it would, but it doesn't excuse what he did.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Reply
  64. Byrd

    This young patriot is being set up to take a fall for revealing the truth and he will never get a fair trial under the UCMJ.

    Release Manning immediately. Today. This very minute.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:37 am | Reply
    • Watanon

      Take a fall? Nah, he's facing the consequences of his own actions.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:40 am | Reply
    • Jabber

      Don't be an idiot. Regardless of his justifications for his actions, he broke the law. He knows he'll be found guilty because he is. It's just going to be a matter of avoiding the death penalty.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:47 am | Reply
    • Jimmy hat

      Yeah, release the trap door, let the rope go tight and hear that popping noise

      December 16, 2011 at 11:02 am | Reply
  65. Vet

    This is a military proceeding and not a civilian trial, so please don't confuse the two. Rather than a slick shyster holding media court daily, this case will be tried as seriously as it deserves. An oath to support and defend the country means just what is says. Exceptions for personal reasons are not permitted. If you are afraid to serve, refuse to obey and get the discharge you merit. It is not acceptable to aid enemies to make your point. A life sentence in a brig would work.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:36 am | Reply
    • Marine

      You said it right, vet. I don't care how you feel. If you are given an order and violate it or if the subject you are handling is top secret and you violate either of these you have committed treason. Treason is punishable by death. Your personal feelings mean jack S#$%^ to the military or this country's true patriots. YOU FOLLOW ORDERS. Cant handle that? Do not enlist. If you can? Welcome Brother/sister.

      This p.o.s deserves to be shot. He cost someone their life. Kill him.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:42 am | Reply
      • Justin

        HOORAH

        December 16, 2011 at 11:14 am |
    • Jimmy hat

      amen!!

      December 16, 2011 at 11:01 am | Reply
  66. jbledsoe

    Skip the trial and cut his head off with a guillotine. Save us all the time and money involved. Couldn't happen fast enough IMHO.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:36 am | Reply
    • Patri

      or is that laghing his head off?

      December 16, 2011 at 10:41 am | Reply
    • Cassandra Chu

      ... that's just what Saddam Hussain would have done... no questions, no fair trial, no regard for truth or justice...

      December 16, 2011 at 10:42 am | Reply
  67. Bob

    To Anchorite's point, although it was made in jest – I believe there are different rules to military courts. Are you considered innocent until proven guilty in such courts?

    December 16, 2011 at 10:34 am | Reply
    • DuneTribune

      Yes, you are presumed innocent until convicted.
      The Article 32 hearing is the equivalent of a civilian grand jury or preliminary hearing.
      Despite whatever motives Pvt. Manning may have had, it still appears that he has violated the UCMJ in several places, including areas that would not be covered under any civilian statutes providing whistleblower protections.
      The defense argument against the judge is, at best, specious.

      December 16, 2011 at 11:28 am | Reply
    • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

      Hi Bob – Yes, there is still a presumption of innocence but there are differences like the number of jurors and similar procedural things. Also, the UCMJ is the document to be concerned with instead of state or federal codes.

      December 16, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Reply
  68. pdqbach

    Treason and espionage are serious charges and this reprobate should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. There is no excuse or rationale for what he did. He's lower than an enemy spy and should be treated accordingly.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:28 am | Reply
    • Bryan

      What do you call a country where you can go to jail for life for telling the truth?? A police state! I don't ever want to hear the military refer to itself as a global force for good.....they are anything but.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:35 am | Reply
      • Blackrobe

        If you really believe that, move to Iran, Venezuela, Mozambique or any number of countries where an ACTUAL police state exists.

        I've actually had to live in a few of those places and though you may be miffed that our system has flaws I can tell you that its still infinitely better here than just about anywhere else.

        December 16, 2011 at 10:42 am |
      • Jeff

        Bryan, because this is a free country, not a police state, you are free to relocate to where you feel more supportive of their military.

        December 16, 2011 at 10:45 am |
      • PudninTane

        Bryan, you're foolish. Got it, you're hard up against "the man" and the "industrial military complex," but the fact is you enjoy the freedoms and the way of life we have in this country due in large part because we keep sensative information secret. They're secret for a reason and there's consequences for revealing them. This guy knew that and should pay the price. He's going to jail for telling the truth? Well, yeah. He may have known the thruth about our troop locations and strength (or whatever), but that's not something that should be spread around.

        December 16, 2011 at 10:48 am |
      • Marine

        Brian, you are a idiot. What do you do with an oath breaker who gets innocent people killed or compromised?
        I bet if it was you he screwed, when he was suppose to be protecting you, you would want a Court Marshall.

        People like you make me sick.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:02 am |
      • Kyne

        Marine, can you prove his actions killed or harmed even one person? Yet what he leaked proves the very questionable killing and harming of several civilians, even children. Isn't that also against the rules? Is anyone being prosecuted for that? But hey, they were only Afghan or Iraqi civilians, so I guess they don't count, right?

        December 16, 2011 at 11:59 am |
      • Liberty Queen

        Right on Bryan, tell it like it is. The military and police are nothing more than tools and enforcers for global thugs and punks. The USA belongs to the People, not you punks in uniform with your delusions of what you represent. You are corporate tools carrying out beatings, rapes, murders and genocides and represent the very antithesis of Freedom and Liberty which We The People defend!

        December 16, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
      • Liberty Queen

        So called marine: We are not here to protect war criminals like you and the punks in that video who were laughing while they slaughtered innocent Iraqi civilians and severely wounded children in the van. We are here to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America which you, obviously, are not. PFC Bradley Manning obeyed his oath to the Constitution which you, obviously, have not. The supreme rule is Individual Sovereignty which is protected by the Constitution, not an unlawful order, so you can kiss our collective you-know-what, punk.

        December 16, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
      • Will

        If you, who hasn't signed a contract with the government, were to leak that information, then no could not be sent to prison. However, PFC Manning did sign one, and part of that contract stated that he accepted the UCMJ as a code of law. When you break that code, you put yourself above the law and yes, you should be imprisoned at the very least. During wartime, said code also states that if found guilty of conspiracy and treason, you can be put to death for war crimes. PFC Manning could have chosen not to sign that contract but he didn't. He accepted it fully, along with the benefits put forth. He knew the risks, accepted them, then threw it all into the wind in a choice that I can't explain as anything less than rash and stupid. Let's not go out of our way to make comparisons that aren't even close to one another.

        December 16, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
      • Will

        Queen, when PFC Manning signed his contract, he swore to uphold the Constitution AND to serve according to the laws Unified Code of Military Justice. He can't break one to serve the other. He doesn't have the option to choose his side once he signs that dotted line.

        For those of you who are supporting Manning, how many of you have strapped on the boots?

        December 16, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
      • Neo

        On this scale, Manning's contract is just a piece of paper, as you have categorized the constitution.

        December 16, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        The case against Manning isn't about telling the truth or not, it is about giving classified information to someone he knew wasn't authorized to receive it.

        If you want to cite an example for living in a police state, this is not the right case.

        December 16, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
      • Heavy_Cavalry_Sgt

        Neo, both of which are legally binding.

        December 16, 2011 at 5:15 pm |
    • ANON

      Did you even read the documents he leaked?

      December 16, 2011 at 10:51 am | Reply
  69. Patri

    He wants the oficer remove, because hecould senenced to death if al charges are upheld

    December 16, 2011 at 10:28 am | Reply
  70. Bryan

    Free him...now.

    December 16, 2011 at 10:28 am | Reply
  71. Anchorite

    Sorry, in the new police state America, you're guilty until proven innocent, and if someone is guilty, why give them a chance to prove themselves innocent?

    December 16, 2011 at 10:24 am | Reply
    • Cassandra Chu

      ... the so-Called Patriot Act is facilitating the Police State of America. It's a shame. America used to be the beacon of hope as a true place of Freedom. Now it's just another military / homeland security state. Boo

      December 16, 2011 at 10:44 am | Reply
      • Marine

        Cassandra, out loud spell assume. Thank you. Now please properly research your facts, state your sources or go home and wear your tin hat.

        December 16, 2011 at 11:05 am |
      • Liberty Queen

        Cassandra is right on the money and Marine Queen, you are a s#xist punk and enforcer for global corporate terrorists... how's it feel to be a Traitor to our Constitution. The bullet you claimed previously that should be for the head Hero PFC Bradley Manning, belongs in yours. Oh wait, not only do you not have a head, you don't even have a brain, so what's the point of wasting a bullet on you? ROGLMFAO!!!

        December 16, 2011 at 11:56 am |
      • Rob

        Marines are called "jarheads" because they can't think for themselves....it has nothing to do with the haircut....their's is not to ask why, their's is to do and die....

        December 16, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
  72. snowdogg

    No way... let the trial begin!

    December 16, 2011 at 10:22 am | Reply

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