Drone down in paradise
December 13th, 2011
02:23 PM ET

Drone down in paradise

By Adam Levine

December has not been a drone-friendly month. First a drone went down in Iran, and now another one crashes, albeit in much friendlier climes.

An unarmed MQ-9 Reaper crashed at the Seychelles International Airport on Tuesday morning, according to an Air Force statement. There were no injuries reported, according to the Air Force statement, and the cause of the crash is not yet known and is being investigated.

Unlike Iran, the drone's presence was not a surprise for the Seychelles government. The U.S. has been expanding its ability to launch drones to reach Al Qaeda fighters who have spread well beyond the Afghanistan and Pakistan region.  The network of drone bases includes a base in Seychelles, Chris Lawrence reported earlier this year. From Seychelles, a drone could even fly all the way into Yemen, where Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula has a strong base.

An official cable leaked to Wikileaks shows that two years ago, American diplomats agreed to get approval to arm the Reapers directly from Seychelles' President, who supported UAV counter-terrorism flights into East Africa.

The cable describes President James Michel opinion of Somalia: "that country could prove a 'nest for terrorism' if the problem isn't attacked head on."

The advantage is easy access, according to Michael Sweetman of the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies

""So that you can react within minutes 24 hours a day, for the next several months until you find the bad guy. Once again, we found some of these bad guys in the past and not been able to put an asset on target, and we end up losing the bad guy because we can't get an asset there."

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  4. Para-dice-Deploy-A-Game-HK

    sheesh even I know where operation paradise really is and im canadian

    January 10, 2012 at 3:00 am | Reply
  5. cpc65

    So about a month ago there was an episode of Beavis and Butthead where they got into a drone control room while on a school tour of a military base and they were remote piloting drones thinking it was a video game. Guess that wasn't far from the truth.

    December 14, 2011 at 12:55 pm | Reply
  6. Matt

    REALLY FOLKS.... You haven't figured out it was intentional on our part so our computer viruses would be uploaded to their computer systems while they (Iran) think they are downloading encrypted intel to hand over to China. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts...

    December 14, 2011 at 1:12 am | Reply
    • Deborah

      If it wasn't known before, now it is. 🙂 Just kidding! I have more faith in our ops than you do.

      December 14, 2011 at 3:19 am | Reply
      • Matt

        Please don't misunderstand me, I think it is brilliant military strategy. I only bring it up several days after the damage has been done to Iraq, China, Russia. etc.

        December 14, 2011 at 11:59 am |
    • bccream

      While I may believe Iranian military may fall for that, you seriously think Chinese and Russians are that stupid? I am sure they are smarter than some Matt thinking and posting it on news websites.

      December 14, 2011 at 12:56 pm | Reply
      • Matt

        Obviously you DO care or you wouldn't be reading and replying Creamy. If you'll educate yourself first then you will realize more than likely Iran would sell the intel to Chain and Russia as history has dictated.

        December 14, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
  7. AlexShch

    OK, as follows from news channels other than CNN the drone was unarmed and operated on the anti-piracy survelliance mission over the Indian Ocean. This is the official mandate from Seychelles government who. indeed, requested help in fighting piracy in 2009. The plane crashed while attempting to land immediately after take off because of engine problem.

    As far as fighting War on Terror, al-Qaeda, Yemen, Somalia, Taliban, etc this was NOT its mission. At least officially.

    December 14, 2011 at 12:25 am | Reply
    • mconn

      Officially or unofficially or semi-officially.. If your a terrorist, and they can shove a bomb up the terrorists a**, then they will do it.

      December 14, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Reply
  8. jas

    Only when it crashes on "friendlier" yards do we talk about casualties or injuries? What about inhumane war "effort" in Afghanistan that has killed countless innocents?

    December 13, 2011 at 11:57 pm | Reply
    • mmi16

      Innocent when DEAD – Taliban when alive.

      December 14, 2011 at 12:54 am | Reply
    • PacerLJ35

      I'm guessing you're privy to watching the Predator/Reaper feeds that demonstrate the people targeted are innocent? I didn't think so.

      December 14, 2011 at 1:00 am | Reply
    • cheese

      Easy to sit behind a computer and whine when your parents pay the internet bills and soldiers take the fight to the enemy so that your cowardly arse will not need see the fight at your shores.

      December 14, 2011 at 5:04 am | Reply
    • Black Cat Smoked Crack

      You'll need to get in touch with the TNN (Taliban News Network) for that info. They're responsible for the death and suffering in that country. The people don't want em, but they're afraid of em.

      December 14, 2011 at 11:01 am | Reply
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    December 13, 2011 at 7:00 pm | Reply
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      December 13, 2011 at 10:10 pm | Reply
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  10. AlexShch

    Whiskey - Tango - Foxtrot. They did it again. What that drone was doing there? Let me speculate... Looking for Al Qaeda in the Vacation Paradise?

    1. May be CIA confused between The Eternal Paradise to which terrorists go AFTER they committed their "martyrdom operations" (yes, yes, the place where they are greeted by 7 virgins each, and some of these virgins even resemble Monica Lewinsky) and the real Heaven on the Earth.

    2. Or may be CIA decided that Al Qaeda leaders need nice vacations too before going to eternal vacation. They are getting tired after all, aren't they? People of Seychelles did not know what war is... until now.

    3. Or may be former CIA director Leon Panetta became interested in oceanography again? After all, Seyshelles motto is "Unique by thousand miles"?

    Screw up after screw up after screw up.

    Do you know what the common denominator for this drone incident, Iranian drone incident, Monica Lewinski, global climate warming, CIA, and Pentagon?

    The correct answer is Leon Panetta.

    Yes, it was Leon Panetta, then president Clinton chief of stuff, who was responsible for hiring and firing personnel (incl. interns) as well as taking care about the "delicate issue" when it happened to be.

    Once Pres. Clinton term was over, and vice-president Al Gore did not win elections in 2000 as expected, Leon Panetta decided to step away from politics ...sort of. He decided to become an oceanographer. Why suddenly he became interested in science and what academic credentials he had (a PhD or something on a relevant subject, a couple research articles published in a refereed journal would be a plus) still remains a mystery, but it did not preclude him from organizing an institution named after himself and giving seminars in oceanographic conferences. ...any way.

    When The Party said "we need you", he instantly responded "yes". Of course, this is Democratic Party in 2008. He became a head of CIA. I cannot judge his spying credentials because these are classified. May be knows how to stock someone, or waterboard a suspected terrorist, or using his unforgettable charm to penetrate into an elaborate web of KGB (made of red-haired agent like Anna Chapman), or at least spend a dozen years working as an office plankton analyst. Or, as a minimum, watch "The three days of Condor" movie as a crash course into CIA.

    After all, do you really need any past spying experience to became the director of CIA?

    And, of course his brilliant career made him now head of the Pentagon. Any previous military experience?

    The bottom line is that you can still be a professional head of something (does not matter what) without ANY professional relationship whatsoever to what you are directing. It is possible ... at least for some people.

    December 13, 2011 at 6:16 pm | Reply
    • bad abroad, worse at home

      im glad that not everyone sticks their head in the sand . keep fighting the good fight

      December 13, 2011 at 6:28 pm | Reply
    • kufunuguh

      @AlexShCh You're an idiot.

      December 13, 2011 at 7:42 pm | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      ALEXSHCH– they weren't looking for Al-Queda in the "Vacation Paradise" (the article DID clearly state this).

      The airbase in Seychelles gives us rapid access to other nations that are known havens for Al-Queda (such as Somalia and the northern parts of Africa). You would know this if you actually read the article before spewing forth your moronic subversive tirade.

      This is basic military strategy 101– you place military bases and assets near locations where you expect violence or where you know the enemy is hiding, Seychelles is within close triking distance of Somalia.

      he only person who is screwing up one after another is YOU, in your completely brainless and intellectually bankrupt posting.

      So let me get this straight– because YOU PERSONALLY are not familiar with Leon Panetta's crdentials, that makes him a failure or incompetent? That is some very interesting logic.....do you honestly think CIA director's post their autobiography online for retards like you to read, edit, and critique?

      It is difficult to read all the way through your post– the blatant stupidity and nearsightedness of it makes me want to laugh, cry, and vomit all at once.....

      December 13, 2011 at 7:59 pm | Reply
    • AlexShch

      The distance from Port Victoria to the nearest point on African coast is about 1000 nm. Yemen is a little bit further away from Seychelles, about 1500 nm. Given the under 200 knots cruising speed of MQ-9, it would take about 8-hour flight just to reach the area of interest, same 8 hours to fly back, hence exhausting a significant portion of plane's fuel and minimizing loitering time. Where is the logic? Aren't there any closer base, say in Kuwait?

      Besides, what about the political fallout for the Seychelles? Supposed that Yemen is stuffed with Al-Qaeda, and the Al-Qaeda realize that they are being tracked and attacked by drones launched from Seychelles. Seychelles is a defenseless country leaving pretty much 100% on tourism, believe me, I have been there. Al-Qaeda will have no difficulty in getting into that country and terrorizing hell out of it in no time! Very clever! Spoil beauty of sands of Beau Vallon by placing a security guard with M-16 under every palm tree? Stupid and short sighted.

      December 13, 2011 at 8:34 pm | Reply
      • Dreamer96

        Maybe part of the drone's mission is to monitor shipping lanes for pirates out of Somalia...a armed drone could make for a really bad day at sea for a Somali Pirate ship.....

        December 14, 2011 at 12:17 am |
      • AlexShch

        Carrying weapons on the drone is liability, both in terms of dramatically reducing its endurance and range, as well as politically: not every country is happy to host such a plane.

        Besides, fighting pirates is legally tricky business because they all are peaceful fishermen up to the moment just after the actually boarded a ship. Even the presence of AK-47s and RPGs in their boats does not prove that they are pirates: they will explain that these are needed for self-defense: after all this is pirate infested area. So identifying pirates from a drone with the intent to sink them right a way is simply not possible.

        A year-and-half ago Indian Navy used an antiship cruise missile to sank what they believed a "pirate mother ship". Turned out to be a trawler hijacked by pirates.

        What I learned from news channels other than CNN is that the drone was unarmed and operated on the anti-piracy survelliance mission over the Indian Ocean. This is the official mandate from the Seychelles government who, indeed, requested help in fighting piracy in 2009. The plane crashed while attempting to land immediately after take off because of engine problem.

        As far as fighting War on Terror, al-Qaeda, Yemen, Somalia, Taliban, etc - NEITHER of these were its mission. At least officially.

        December 14, 2011 at 12:43 am |
    • AlexShch

      @Fr33th1nk3r as far as academic credentials, this is easy to answer: in today's World there are citation indices. Google Scholar, for example, or Thompson Institute. In general it takes between between 15 to 30 minutes to get an idea what a person did in science.

      As far as CIA's I do not know, and I am not supposed to know. All I know is that John Deutch, George Tenet, and Robert Gates spent their lifetimes working for intelligence. They are definitely the highest-grade professionals. Leon Panetta is different, he is primarily a politician.

      Let me however stress two aspects coming from this latest drone incident:

      At first, before reading this CNN article today I had no clue that US drones operate from Seychelles. And this is RIGHT because I am not supposed to know. I have absolutely no hesitation to give up my "right to know" if there is a concern for other people safety. Conversely, the fact that I know is WRONG. Not because have this opportunity to make some fun of Ms. Panetta, but because THE BAD GUYS from Al Qaeda or otherwise can read this article as well and get the same clues, and, even worse, respond accordingly - their style. As I already said, a single terrorist blast in central mall in Port Victoria would shutdown all their tourist business for years stripping off close to 100% of their tourist revenue. And they got the message today. This is definitely a BLUNDER, not because the drone crashed (accidents happen) but because this is ALL OVER IN THE NEWS. CIA or whoever else should prevent CNN from publishing it.

      Secondly, the plain crashed in Seychelles International Airport on the Island of Mahe. This is the place where most of the tourists go, and most of them fly in and fly out (personally I came by ship, but this is rare). So if drones are operated from the central airport it means that an unlimited number of tourist sees them from time to time. In fact there are many islands in Seychelles Archipelago, some of them are visited by tourists, others are not because they are quite remote and do not have much infrastructure. There are small planes flying between the islands, so I presume that there are some airfields here and there. Drone requires only a small landing strip, no more than needed by a Cessna, so in can operate virtually from everywhere. Why to chose a major tourist hub for supposedly a covert operation? This is another BLUNDER. Not taking into account concerns. War on Terror is a war between US and Al Qaeda. It is not Seychelles war. Some countries who are considered US allies and even NATO members refuse to allow US using its airfields for conducting this war. Turkey refused on several occasions. This is understandable. Even Israel ... closest ally ... did we hear any US drone operated from Israeli territory? This would be closer to "areas if interest", would't it? This is also understandable: nobody wants to get into a war which they do not consider as theirs. Yet, Seychelles, a fundamentally neutral tourist country allowed US to operate from its airfield. Yet US failed to take reasonable preventive measures to ensure secrecy and safety.

      December 13, 2011 at 10:28 pm | Reply
      • AlexShch

        "...They could be running tests on drones while preparing to deploy them into Africa for our advisors..."

        Drone testing... Sensors... High resolution cameras... Seychelles.... Yes, I am getting too old and mentally retarded, I did not figure it out right a way. Элементарно, Ватсон! Of, course it was drone testing... EUROPEAN WOMEN GO TOPLESS ON THE BEACHES OF SEYCHELLES ALL THE TIME AND ACTUALLY PAY BIG BUCKS TO GO THERE TO BE TOPLESS. Camera... click click click Looks like Hugh Hefner and Larry Flynt got involved. I am sending an e-mail to Jay Leno right now. Watch him making fun of it this Friday night.

        December 14, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • sbast18

      This argument you guys are having...lol. So, what IS a drone doing in Seychelles, anyhow? Well...Seychelles is off the coast of Africa for one thing. We have military advisors in Africa who were sent there by Obama. Seychelles is a resort area so there actually COULD be things going on there that the govt wants to keep an eye on. There may also be drone-supported drug ops in progress – which one of my ships participated in occasionally. They could be running tests on drones while preparing to deploy them into Africa for our advisors. There are LOTS of reasons a drone would be in Seychelles. But one thing is for sure: we won't know because we don't need to know, and arguing about it is fairly well retarded.

      December 14, 2011 at 9:14 am | Reply
      • AlexShch

        "...They could be running tests on drones while preparing to deploy them into Africa for our advisors..."

        Drone testing... Sensors... High resolution cameras... Seychelles.... Yes, I am getting too old and mentally retarded, I did not figure it out right a way. Элементарно, Ватсон! Of, course it was drone testing... EUROPEAN WOMEN GO TOPLESS ON THE BEACHES OF SEYCHELLES ALL THE TIME AND ACTUALLY PAY BIG BUCKS TO GO THERE TO BE TOPLESS. Camera... click click click Looks like Hugh Hefner and Larry Flynt got involved. I am sending an e-mail to Jay Leno right now. Watch him making fun of it this Friday night.

        December 14, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
  11. bad abroad, worse at home

    I think that we have blinders on when it comes to "counter terrorism". The government throws whatever they like under this broad blanket of fighting terrorism. Not only has the drone program expanded across the world our government has recently expanded the use of domestic drones. The CIA had been using drones domestically before without notifying the American people, but now they have expanded the drone program to include our entire nation. They already use they drones on the borders on missions and recently used a predator drone to find some cow thieves in North Dakota. Americans need to stand up for themselves and put an end to endless government intrusion in our lives. Now our country is considered a battlefield, and its citizens are combatants. Well drones make it that much easier for our government to win this "war". I’m not a terrorist sympathizer and I think we should protect ourselves from threats from abroad, but I don’t believe we should whittle away our rights to make ourselves feel safe when we really aren’t. Our foreign policy makes us the villain of the world and this drone program doesn’t help. If anything it shows that even the best country in the world fears its citizens and has taken the first step to bringing the fight to our doorsteps.

    December 13, 2011 at 5:55 pm | Reply
    • TimL

      Pretty much spot on. "Terrorist" is the term they have given the generic "bad guy". We are out trying to rid the world of the "Bad guy" and we are giving up far to many liberties for it. There are always going to be bad people doing bad things. This is a HUGE waste of money and resources just so the rich can stay in power.

      December 13, 2011 at 7:12 pm | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      "They already use they drones on the borders on missions and recently used a predator drone to find some cow thieves in North Dakota." And the problem with this is........what again? If it helps to solve crimes, and keeps you safe from terrorists, why are you complaining?

      "Americans need to stand up for themselves and put an end to endless government intrusion in our lives." What intrusions into our lives? Since the pasing of the Patriot Act, and numerous other measures that have had left-wingers up in a rutt, I have yet to feel any change to my lifestyle or privacy whatsoever.....and I suspect that if YOU are not involved in either global terrorism, drug trafficking, or human trafficking, you probably haven't either.

      December 13, 2011 at 8:03 pm | Reply
      • bad abroad, worse at home

        If you really are a free thinker, maybe you should open your thought process. They use terrorism as a front to take away your rights. Your lifestyle and privacy have already been invaded for anti-terrorism purposes. Our government is slowly destroying our rights down to nothing and our lifestyles are being corrupted due to the high price of fighting this never ending war on terror. There are bad people out there, catch them not people who stole 6 cows. And if they have all this technology to fight terrorism fight it, don’t want our resources on cattle crooks. This argument of let them do what they want, I’m not doing anything wrong I have nothing to hide is a cop out. You lack the will to stand up for yourself. When chicks are first taken away from their mother and put in a barn the first time the farmer comes in they all scatter to the sides of the barn and bury their faces in the wall. And as the farmer slowly gains their trust with food over time they relax and when they get old enough the farmer kills them. I don’t know about you but when the farmer comes in, I’m going to run out of the barn not hide my face and hope he goes away. I have no involvement in terrorism or trafficking but our government you are whole-heartedly sticking up for is heavily involved in both.

        December 13, 2011 at 8:44 pm |
      • AlexShch

        Of course we all feel change, @Fr33th... Did you fly across the US recently? Do you remember time when we were allowed to fly within the US WITHOUT even showing a drivers license? Just go through metal detector and go. Takes about 15 seconds. This is actually not too far ago. I believe 1994 or 5. Even after that. And if you want to meet someone in airport, we were able to go all the way to the gate where plane is parked. These time is gone, but is still remembered. Nowadays we are not allowed to bring a can of orange juice to the plane without getting into trouble with TSA. Crowds and annoying lines everywhere.

        December 13, 2011 at 11:09 pm |
    • THINK

      What are your sources that "the CIA" has been using drones domestically? Last time I checked, the CIA generally doesn't operate domestically. The police and FBI have always used helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft within the US. How would it be any different if THEY were using drones? I don't have the stats, but I would think that use of drones would have a lower operating cost than to use manned-aircraft. Progress?

      December 13, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Reply
    • C.Brown

      Please take your meds before bed tonight so I don't have to read this drival tomorrow mornining. I hate hearing such crap from someone that really has no clue as to what he/she is talking about yet tries to rally people to stand up for there missguided beliefs. Since when did the U.S. become a battlefield? Have you ever been to a REAL battlefield? Well I have and this aint one of them so until you go and fight please spare me the comparison of the U.S and a battlefield. Also why do you think that the C.I.A. should tell all of America that they are flying drones in the U.S.? Do you also think that cops should tell criminals what their plans are for the day?

      December 14, 2011 at 9:39 am | Reply
  12. Rajiv Shaw

    Send up Gingrich...he's a blimp and a drone!

    December 13, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Reply
  13. AmericanDictator

    I'm a taxpayer and I demand that military intel start wiping itself (take that metaphor as you will) by installing self-destruct mechanisms on every drone in every warzone from now on. Some other forms of government would be treating those responsible for the drone lost in Iran with cattle prods right about now, and that's the only reason I hold greater respect and esteem for them, than for the country of my birth and ironically, the country several of my ancestors helped to create when they signed the Declaration and the Constitution. These other Nations would punish ignorance, stupidity, failure and weakness first, and reward achievement second and that is the sign of a truly enlightened society in and of itself – combine that with a restrained system employing capitalism, democracy and freedom, and I’d be that much less of a cynic. Until then, if I ever become a politician, or find myself in a position holding absolute influence over some politicos, I hereby promise that I'd slash and burn the defense budget like a rainforest, just out of petty spite over this little exhibition of ineptitude, which is clearly symptomatic of an entirely fractured administrative system combined with an apathetic and pathetic collective mindset on the part of the American public. This is not what my ancestors envisioned and therefore I leave military intel with a double eagle salute and the aforementioned promise: your [blank] is grass.

    December 13, 2011 at 5:32 pm | Reply
    • David in Corpus

      Dang brother, I didn't think there was anyone more bitter about the current destruction of the United States than me.
      Well done. It burns inside doesn't it. That is the well earned shame we feel for not standing up and taking out the traitors amongst us and suffering the consequences for it.
      One of my ancestors signed the Declaration too, lost his entire plantation to the British for it but at least he lived through the war. Other relatives of mine did not live through the wars to come.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Reply
    • AlexShch

      It makes more sense to install an auto-shut-off mechanism on every decision maker using the formula "one screw-up and you are out". Otherwise this all escalates to a global paranoia: you suspect cork-roached under your sofa be terrorists.

      While one might speculate that this drone flown from Seychelles was used as a part of counter-piracy operation - tracking down Somali pirates in Indian Ocean, in reality it is not very likely given the range of MQ-9 is only 1000 nm, its cruising speed is below 200 knots, and the distance from Port Victoria/Mahe to the nearest point on the African coast is about the same 1000nm. Besides, Seychelles are way too south from the area where most pirate activity takes place. As a part of a larger-scale operation - several such drones launched from different locations, incl. some from African coast dividing-up and patrolling a wider area over Indian ocean, but we never heard anything about this from the news before.

      December 13, 2011 at 7:57 pm | Reply
      • Fr33th1nk3r

        "It makes more sense to install an auto-shut-off mechanism on every decision maker using the formula "one screw-up and you are out". Otherwise this all escalates to a global paranoia: you suspect cork-roached under your sofa be terrorists."

        BLISSFULLY IGNORANT....

        You must have missed all of Al-Queda's viral videos on Al-Jazeera for the last decade, where they talk about "killing ALL Americans" if they had the means.....and they are actively seeking those means on a 24-hour basis. Be glad we have drones flying overheaed to keep your ungrateful and decadent azz safe.

        December 13, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
    • PacerLJ35

      You obviously don't know any of the people that operate those "drones" or the conditions that they are operated in. I do...and they are incredibly talented at what they do, given the technological limitations they operate under. Don't blindly castigate people you don't know for events you know very little about (except inaccurate stories on CNN). There are few things more irritating than some internet know-it-all who declares how inept people are when they themselves are 99% in the dark on the subject.

      December 14, 2011 at 12:58 am | Reply
  14. APatriot

    GREAT! MORE AMERICAN TREASURE WASTED DUE TO OUR BLIND SUPPORT OF OUR BEST BUDDY ISRAEL.

    We all know that Israel is an apartheid state masquerading as a "democracy".

    The real question is:
    Is Israel ready for honesty and transparency?

    Corzine, Zackheim, Greenspan, Chertoff, Bernanke, Levin, Lieberman…And the list goes on and on and on…These “Americans” swore an oath to the US Constitution but they have proven that their true loyalty is to their beloved Israel…NOT to the US.

    Dual “American/Israeli Citizen” Dov Zakheim was appointed by Bush as Pentagon Comptroller from May 4, 2001 to March 10, 2004. At that time he was unable to explain the disappearance of $1 trillion dollars. Actually, nearly three years earlier, Donald Rumsfeld announced on September 10, 2001 that an audit discovered $2.3 trillion was also missing from the Pentagon books. That story, as mentioned, was buried under 9-11's rubble. The two sums disappeared on Zakheim's watch.

    Where do you think all that stolen American tax-payer loot went?

    What these traitors should have pledged was:

    “I pledge allegiance to the Star of David of the Apartheid State of Israel, and to the Racism for which it stands, one World, under our Talmud, with liberty and justice only for Zionists.”

    December 13, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Reply
    • American

      Right on! Let's get the truth out...Put America first or get the hell out!

      December 13, 2011 at 5:24 pm | Reply
    • rick

      Wow, the Palestinian mantra posted in an article about the seychelles! The mantra: "Woe is me, we haven't done anything wrong. everything is the fault of the Jews. The misery we suffer is the fault of the US, the West, the US, the UK, the Zionists, the Hindus, everybody but us. We didnt attack Israel in 1948, 1967, 1973, THEY ATTACKED US! killing their athletes in Munich in 1983 was exaggerated; killing a rabbi and his family last month, 3 children including a 3 month old was necessary because every time we send one rocket they send back 100. Oh, woe is me. we have to kill cartoonists in denmark because Jews tell them to make fun of us!. Oh, woe is me. everyone picks on us"

      December 13, 2011 at 6:02 pm | Reply
    • rick

      hey, Its MOEUSA using a new name, writing from a script prepared by the so called Floridian writing out of a basement in tehran

      December 13, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Reply
  15. Jakob P

    Drones must be effectively used to target and eliminate all such bad elements who bring anarchy and terror to the world

    December 13, 2011 at 5:11 pm | Reply
  16. Jeff

    Well go get it Mr President?

    December 13, 2011 at 5:08 pm | Reply
  17. Jeff

    Shame on you oboma for Killing our Country, Perry said you had 3 choices. with that Drone!! Now another one down..

    December 13, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Reply
  18. Retired Floridian

    I can hardly wait for the fun when Iran, or China, or Russia, or even "friends" who spy on us all the time -like Israel-start sending drones over U.S. territory and bases to spy or maybe even take out a general or two!

    December 13, 2011 at 5:00 pm | Reply
    • Choco monster

      You are a retired Chinamen. Go stitch some Nike's, beyatch.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:03 pm | Reply
    • Choco monster

      Hey get your mother over here. I've got 50 cents for her to do my laundry by hand.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      "I can hardly wait for the fun when Iran...."

      Why can you "hardly wait"? Don't you love your country?

      December 13, 2011 at 8:07 pm | Reply
  19. Retired Floridian

    So, other countries foolishly have no problem with facillitating acts of war by the U.S. in violating the air space and killing citizens of other countries (plus, usually, a bunch of other innocents)? Do these countries realize that they are opening themselves up to legitimate attacks on their country and citizens-including assassinations of their political leaders who condone illicit warfare on poor, 3rd world countries-by those targeted by the U.S. for merely political, econmic (like controlling oil) or other factors having nothing to do with so-called "enemies?"

    December 13, 2011 at 4:57 pm | Reply
    • Choco monster

      I hear melamine has great "aphrodesiac" qualities. Perhaps you should try some.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:04 pm | Reply
    • APatriot

      I concur sir. Karma, Khismat, whatever you call it...What goes around, comes around.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Reply
    • rick

      writing from gaza or tehran. clearly not from florida

      December 13, 2011 at 6:07 pm | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      That is some of the most misguided crap I have ever read....

      December 13, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Reply
  20. james

    And the problem with the Drone is –What ????–Its a Counter Intelligence tool as well as a Military Weapon–No problem with me–

    December 13, 2011 at 4:44 pm | Reply
    • Choco monster

      The only people who have a problem with it are Chinese losers who are scared that their primitive "zerg rush" with poorly trained peasants is becoming obsolete as a military strategy.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Reply
      • Snacklefish

        And thankfully the North Koreans don't have enough pylons.

        December 13, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  21. Kathy

    This seems unreal. All of it

    December 13, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Reply
  22. Sam

    If I'm a drone and I go down in the Seychelles, please don't return me. If I go down in Iran, please shoot me.

    December 13, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Reply
    • Oceanminded

      Hah. That was good stuff.

      December 13, 2011 at 4:12 pm | Reply
  23. MyPictureOfMuhammad

    8=> (_|_)

    December 13, 2011 at 3:20 pm | Reply
    • APatriot

      Please refrain from posting such explicit support of your butt buddy Sandusky on these pages.
      Keep your man/boy love cravings to yourself, Mr. Turd Burglar.

      December 13, 2011 at 5:23 pm | Reply
      • rick

        about as intelligent as the rest of your posts

        December 13, 2011 at 6:08 pm |

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