Pentagon: Bunker buster not intended for Iran
Loading the MOP during a 2007 test in New Mexico
November 16th, 2011
06:48 PM ET

Pentagon: Bunker buster not intended for Iran

By Sr. National Security Producer Charley Keyes

The military's newest and most powerful ground-penetrating bomb is not intended for Iran's underground nuclear and weapons facilities specifically, a Pentagon spokesman said Wednesday.

"The system's not aimed at any one country," said Pentagon spokesman, Capt. John Kirby. "It's to develop a capability we believe we need."

The new Massive Ordinance Penetrator, known as the MOP, is able to explode 200 feet underground and designed to destroy deeply buried and fortified targets such as the ones Iran is believed to have constructed to protect its nuclear research facilities.

"It gives us a far greater capability to reach and destroy an enemy's weapons of mass destructions that - weapons of mass destruction that are located in well-protected underground facilities, without getting into specifics, to - to a magnitude far greater than we have right now," Kirby said at a Pentagon briefing.

The Air Force has contracted from Boeing for 20 of the bunker-buster bombs. It took the first delivery in September, according to Pentagon official. The official, citing operational security limitations, would not provide details about how many have been delivered.

There were three separate orders placed by the Pentagon with the final one placed in August. The bomb is said to be more than 20 feet long and 30 inches in diameter and weighs some 30,000 pounds (13,600 kilos).

It is more powerful than its predecessor, the BLU-109, and is a "relatively simple weapon," according to information posted by the military's Defense Threat Reduction Agency.

"The MOP relies on gravity to turn its massive weight into tremendous kinetic energy. Designed to penetrate supposedly untouchable facilities in one piece, the MOP will defeat our adversaries' (weapons of mass destruction) before they leave the ground," according to the description on the website.

Air Force Lt. Gen. James Kowalski talked about the bomb in a speech in suburban Washington in September when discussing Air Force capabilities to deliver long-range payloads, saying the MOP "giv(es) the warfighter increased capability against hardened and deeply buried targets."

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  1. alan

    Thats a might large bomb. OK, not a bunker buster for Iran. Yeah, maybe it can be used to bomb an area where there is oil and give the oil company a quick 1000 ft hole. Thats it, a giant deep oil to look for oil.

    December 15, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Reply
  2. gratular

    More weapons to use aggressively on other nations.. And we wonder why people around the world are uniting to commit acts of terrorism against us?

    December 6, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Reply
    • Mish

      wow
      are you serious???
      countries are collectives of humanity that require steady resources to thrive
      sometimes, theres not enough pie to go around
      thats when conflict ensues
      when that happens, i much rather would have the biggest stick on the playground
      than watch my family suffer for lacking food, water, comfort, or shelter
      altruism, like communism, is the luxury of isolated intellectualists too far divorced from the harsh truth of life
      im sorry to open your eyes to this, but not everyone has your best interest at heart
      just look at the state of europe today to see how far appeasement and tolerance get you

      December 8, 2011 at 7:37 pm | Reply
    • Robert

      The terrorists you speak of hate us more for our religion and way of life then for our bombs.

      December 12, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Reply
    • ChicagoRich

      I have to agree with Mish on this one. The thin veil of civility in international relations is largely based upon the might that lies behind it. Might may not make right, but it allows one to enforce their ideas of what right is rather than being relegated to accepting another Nation's or culture's ideas of what is right.

      December 13, 2011 at 11:58 pm | Reply
    • alan

      They hated us before we even developed nuke weapons. You are falling right into the progressives trap. Yep, if we dont have weapons, they will like us. Uh huh,

      December 15, 2011 at 2:16 pm | Reply
  3. Moe

    Am I the only one who noticed that the article said the bomb was 30 inches in diameter? From looking at the picture, I think they may have gotten their units wrong lol!

    November 30, 2011 at 10:59 am | Reply
    • SId Airfoil

      Not sure what you mean. 30 inches is less than three feet, and that's about what the diameter looks like compared to the men in the pic. The article said "diameter" not "length". Are you sure you read it right?

      Sid

      December 3, 2011 at 10:05 am | Reply
    • Old Crow Navyvet

      I believe you are confusing diameter and circumference. It does appear to be @ 30 inches in diameter, which would make it @ 94 1/4 inches in circumference.

      December 12, 2011 at 4:13 pm | Reply
  4. pugsly

    all religions on one side, and all the normal people on the other side . now lets have one bitch of a war and end religion once and for all.

    November 17, 2011 at 7:41 pm | Reply
    • gratular

      I'm on your side man..

      December 6, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Reply
  5. The Blindman

    This is a good debate..

    I must say that, this bomb seems like a deterrence, as I'm sure the U.S. gov't could have kept it secret if they wanted to. I think the release to the press; is supposed to scare Iran, although I doubt that's the only country they are trying to intimidate. Now I can only hope that when and if the time comes to use weapons such as these, we will not use it in fear or anger. It's necessary in my (probably slighted opinion) that America alone should have Nuclear capabilities and conventional weapons like these, I don't mind the fact that are 2 strongest allies do United Kingdom & France. I worry though about Russia and in the future China, North Korea, and heaven forbid Multiple countries in the Middle East.

    So Lets just end them now. It's difficult to mobilize an army of any kind when you country is a cesspit of nuclear fallout..

    We have the weapons, we know how to use them. Lets git R' don

    November 17, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Reply
    • Dreamer96

      Blindman
      It is a good debate
      But, You know this bomb can only be delivered by a few B52's...and B52's can not just fly over Iran or North Korea, they have ground to air systems, Radar guided systems, the old flying telephone poles from Vietnam days, only better now...Radar Jammers we do have, but still it takes a real effort to be sure we need to dissable the SAM/Radar sites first, because the last I heard our B52 really light up a SAM/Radar screen...

      November 17, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Reply
      • Rhoadsr

        Or you could load two of them on a single B-2 that doesn't light up on surface radar and is designed to fly around SAM sights.

        November 17, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
      • V

        The Defense Appropriations bill two or three years ago appropriated money to expand the B-2 weapon bays to accomodate this very weapon.

        December 9, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
      • ChicagoRich

        It probably makes a lot more sense to deploy this with the B2 as you would want to hit command and control and other sensitive bunkers rather early on, when B-52's would still likely be much more vulnerable to remaining air defenses.

        December 14, 2011 at 12:03 am |
    • Dreamer96

      Blindman
      You know too with North Korea, it's the hundreds, or thousands of artillery guns pointing at Seoul, South Korea, and many other population centers that can be fired right after an attack, and of course that giant panda bear called China, that no sane person wants to get really mad with an attack....We could ask China before hand, I have a feeling they wouldn't mind getting North Korea out of the way, anyway...

      November 17, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Reply
  6. PoPoessen

    Obama probably gave them some to apologize for his ignorant gaff while bashing Netanyahu with that Vichy Sarkozy.

    November 17, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Reply
  7. dave

    The Palestinians learned about bombing innocents from the Irgun and Menachem Begin

    November 17, 2011 at 12:47 pm | Reply
    • Joseph Smite

      Dave, you repeatedly say this throughout all the replies but I for one are not even sure what you are saying. Not sure who you support but perhaps you could elaborate. Menachem Begin was part of a resistance movement that could be viewed as questionable at times but had family in concentration camps and served in various military and then served in government functions and actually won a Nobel Peace prize along with Egypts leader. and the Irgun came from Palestine as a paramilitary group. It was part of some well known bombings and masacres and viewed as a terrorist group from British Mi5. Are you saying the bombing of innocent people by hamas and others is comparable? Are you saying Israel is trying to take over these territories from others so thereby needs to be resisted? I suppose I don't understand you rantings and comparisons.

      November 17, 2011 at 5:49 pm | Reply
      • Mark Levy

        groups considered like terrorists by the UK helped to create Israel, we all know that.

        November 29, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
  8. dave

    go ahead ask WHY DO WE HELP ISRAEL THE ENEMY OF THE ARABS - ask anyone who works in the World Trade Center in NYC - Oops

    November 17, 2011 at 12:40 pm | Reply
    • ChicagoRich

      Because they are our ally, and are not hijacking and flying planes into our buildings or blowing up our citizens. Neither are moderate Arabs, who we also aid and supply. Only the extremists bent on killing anyone who does not accept their twisted barbaric views are who we are in conflict with.

      December 14, 2011 at 12:08 am | Reply
      • Gordy

        The Saudis are extremists, we support them. It's all about oil....

        December 15, 2011 at 4:48 pm |
  9. Dreamer96

    The Air Force could take their little unmanned shuttle and haul concrete formed into the shape of a huge bullet one at a tmie into space, with a heat sheilded nose cone and a GPS guided tail and park them over Iran...Then wait and send 50 down onto Iran's many bunkers, buried or not, hidden anywhere...but then what...what for all the Irainians around the world to attack us....What would China and Russia do then? China and Russia need to weight just what a nuclear Iran will really mean to the world....

    November 17, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Reply
    • dave

      ask WHY DO WE HELP ISRAEL THE ENEMY OF THE ARABS - ask anyone who works in the World Trade Center in NYC - Oops

      November 17, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Reply
    • pkMyt1

      The air force had a working plan nicknamed "rods from god" to do exactly that back in the late 60's. Got shelved because of cost.

      November 17, 2011 at 1:09 pm | Reply
    • Dreamer96

      pkMyt1

      There is an agreement, I believe, not to put weapons in space...We don't want a bunch of nuclear bombs, or missiles, up there in orbit...And neither does Russia, or China, and other nuclear nations ...Some sane people are still in power thank goodness...

      November 17, 2011 at 2:12 pm | Reply
    • Mark Levy

      Russia and China have told the US and Israel not to attack Iran...The US and Israel will NOT attack Iran as told.

      November 29, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Reply
      • Russ

        If you think Israel is going to listen to China, Russia or even the US you don't know the Jewish people.. If they believe their existence as a people and as a nation are threatened they will not listen to anyone. They have had one holocaust and will not go through another one. Especially to a nation that wishes their destruction. You can take that to the bank.

        December 1, 2011 at 11:18 am |
      • ChicagoRich

        I believe it is a misreading of our intentions that may be adding to the danger here. My thinking is that Iran feels that they can stall any action against them by negotiating for a bit, and then continue to go full speed ahead on their nuclear weapons program and the missile program to deliver the weapons, as they have been doing. They probably believe that they can play Russia and China off against the U.S. to prevent any interference in their weapon program until such time that they feel that they have a deterrent which would prevent any outsider from interfering with them in response to their exportation of terrorism. The only way to prevent this short of conflict is to draw the line in the sand, and make sure they know and believe what will happen if they cross it. This is not the case today and that makes the world a more dangerous place. All of this throwing out hints that Israel might attack them, or the U.S. will not convince them and will not derail either the missile or the nuke weapons programs there.

        December 14, 2011 at 12:15 am |
    • Chris McCoy

      No weapons in space dude. The Chinese and Russians can put stuf in orbit too, and once there it is hard to stop. If one country rains steel rain, they all will. No place on Earth will be safe, and it will be scarier than a-bombs because they'll be able to hit pinpoint targets.

      December 3, 2011 at 1:28 pm | Reply
  10. Mick

    "Steve

    'Not 'specifically' for Iran, LOL – yeah, where did we hear this before? We gots them, now we need to use them before their 'shelf life' is over – wonder where? I would 'imagine' the United States will give them to Israel just like they did with some 'nukes'!!!"

    The French, Brits an the South Africans built the Israeli nuclear weapons program.

    The fact that you don't know this, makes you as dumb as a sack of bricks.

    The US didn't even know about their reactor until a flyover detected it.

    You need to crack open some books and go back to school.

    November 17, 2011 at 11:19 am | Reply
    • dave

      Mick you are right -= we have to stop helping Israel and help the Arabs who killed 3000 Americans on 9/11

      the enemies of Israel are the enemies of all decent humans

      November 17, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Reply
      • Mark Levy

        Dave is another racist zionist. Israel has many enemies because Israel is an Apartheid state period.

        November 29, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
      • Chris McCoy

        BS. The enemies of Israel are the enemies of Israel. We have lost countless US servicemen protecting Israel and have received NOTHING in return but more terrorism and a defiant attitude from Israeli leadership. If they want to elect a war-monger like Netanyahu who can play tough and not negotiate only because the US protects him, pull our help away. Let all the idiots in that region fend for themselves. If Israel falls, it falls. Screw Israel. They have done nothing for us except give other nations excuses to kill us. They keep talking about how close an ally they are, but they refuse to do even the most basic things we request. Freeze settlement construction....screw you USA. Stop building the fence on an arbitrary border...screw you USA. Stop bulldozing near border areas...screw you USA.

        How are they our closest ally when they refuse to shoulder ANY inconvenience we ask, but ask us to shoulder many inconveniences? I say let Israel negotiate Israel's problems. Pull out the quartet and US funding to the Israeli military. Put an embassy in the Fatah West Bank and give them equal access to US diplomats. Tell Hamas they may have direct contact with the USA. You would see an end to 90% of terrorist hostility towards the USA. You would see Israel speedily seek a negotiated settlement. You would see Hamas come on board in negotiations. The ONLY reason there is no peace is because Israel has no motivation to seek it. It isn'ttheir blood they spill...it's ours. Close ally my tukhus!

        December 3, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
    • Chris McCoy

      Not everyone opposed to a US/Israeli alliance is anti-semetic. Some of us are just more interested on our own nation than a nation that keeps electing a right-wing liar determined to hold power through continued conflict and fear for his people. I see no reason the USA should continue to reward Israel with support when Israel gives us none.

      December 3, 2011 at 1:41 pm | Reply
    • FactChecker

      It was clear that this capability was wanted in Afghanistan and Iraq. There was even talk about nuclear deep penetration weapons. So these are not specifically for Iran. Iran and North Korea are just the current concerns. There may be others.

      December 4, 2011 at 11:40 pm | Reply
  11. Jack B

    The ignorance of some of the leftist commenters here is appalling, though not surprising, particularly their glaring lack of knowledge of history.

    Let me just say this: had the West acted forcefully in response to Hitler’s early aggressive moves in ’38 (Annexation of Austria) and ’39, (Occupation of Czechoslovakia), there probably would not have been a WWII.

    Iran is like Germany in ’39. Don’t believe me? This is what Khomeini said (he’s dead, but his hand-picked successors are firmly in charge):

    “Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males…to prepare themselves for the conquest of other countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world…Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless. Islam say kill all the unbelievers as they would kill you all…Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword. The sword is the key to Paradise…” There’s a lot more, but some of you may actually get the drift!

    You think these guys are kidding when they say they want to wipe Israel off the map, as Ahmadinejad did?

    Of course, the Jew-haters among you might be delighted at that prospect…

    So here’s my verdict: plant a few ‘big ones’ in their bunkers before these madmen get their own nuclear weapons…

    November 17, 2011 at 10:22 am | Reply
    • Zion101

      No one is buying your Zionist rhetoric and that just infuriates you doesn't it? The biggest aggressor in the world is Israel and that is why they are hated by everyone and not just in the middle east. Israel is in a vulnerable position with the changes in Egypt, turkey and Palestine and would not like nothing better to turn the focus of its propaganda to Iran. The difference is that no one is buying it...

      November 17, 2011 at 11:05 am | Reply
      • PoPoessen

        How is Israel the "largest aggressor" in the world? I do not see them anywhere else in the world except in their homeland. If the Palestinians want them to leave disputed territories then they need to stop carrying out acts of terrorism against the Israeli people et al. Every time Israel makes a concession, the Palestinians launch a rocket and demand even more. Israel is nowhere else in the world unless it is a mission to kill the pigs that are trying to get them. They occupy no other soil as a military… Look at the size of their country and look at what surrounds them! Of course when they respond to you terrorists they hit you where it hurts. You are all lucky that Israel has refrained itself from really kicking you’re butts.

        November 17, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
      • CARLYSIMON

        You should "refrain" yourself from sharing "you're" horrible grammar skills.

        November 17, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
      • Jack B

        LOL, Zion 101, it’s an old, time-worn, tired and simple-minded strategy to call someone’s argument ‘rhetoric’ if one cannot refute it, which you obviously can’t.

        As to Israel: It’s a beacon of civilization and democracy in the Middle East, unlike any of the other countries in that region. And the Israelis don’t ‘occupy’ any land but their own, though not all of it! Learn some history!

        And yes, Israel is indeed in a vulnerable position, particularly since the more-or-less secular depots are in the process of being replaced by religious ones…

        And why would someone who’s obviously against Israel and possibly even an anti-Semite call himself ‘Zion’?

        November 17, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
      • dave

        - The Palestinians learned about bombing innocents from the Irgun and Menachem Begin

        November 17, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
      • PoPoessen

        First of all this is a blog, not an essay; just a step above instant messaging (lol). Secondly, what is wrong with the word "refrained?" Oh and sorry for that 1 misplaced comma ... wow... you must be super smart! You would have been better going after me misquoting "biggest" with "largest." Your so vain😉

        November 17, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
      • al718

        and that is exactly why Israel shouldnt pander to anti semetic pricks like you – no matter what she does people will always hate Israel because it is a jewish country, same way as long as there are ignorant uneducated dbags, people will always hate jews, so they should care even less about world opinion and do what it takes to survive

        November 17, 2011 at 4:43 pm |
    • Thomas

      And you call other people ignorant?

      November 17, 2011 at 11:07 am | Reply
      • Jack B

        Yep! LOL...

        November 17, 2011 at 12:34 pm |
    • xdougx

      I say we test this new weapon on Israel.

      November 17, 2011 at 11:53 am | Reply
      • PoPoessen

        BURN! not really...

        November 17, 2011 at 12:22 pm |
    • dave

      Only fanatics do what their religion tells them to do

      The Catholic religions tells its member to stay married for life and have as many children as possible - No many do

      November 17, 2011 at 12:36 pm | Reply
      • H RANDON

        Which Israel are you people talking about? There is two....open the Book and read.

        November 17, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
      • H RANDON

        they also cheat on there wife with men.

        November 17, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
      • H RANDON

        blow them up quick.

        November 17, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • dave

      The Shah was a US puppet and the CIA taught the SHah's secret police how to torture

      Iran should hate the US

      November 17, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Reply
    • Mark Levy

      Jack B is another racist zionist who is desperate to see that people of the world do not believe the zionist's lies anymore. zionist people and the illegal settlers are the problems in the middle east: we should get rid of them first.

      November 29, 2011 at 5:47 pm | Reply
    • Mark Levy

      Israel is an apartheid state, the Russell Tribunal in South Africa just said this last month: do a search on Google for "Russell Tribunal and Israel" and you will see the results. Israel=Apartheid. and there was one jewish judge in this tribunal who voted for it as well!!

      November 29, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Reply
    • Chris McCoy

      The ignorance is believing that stoking a fear of Muslims will encourage Americans to support a country that continues to elect far-right ultra conservative liars like Likud and Netanyahu. If Israelis wish to maintain conflict and continue a pogrom against their own Muslims, they are welcome to. The US should not have to pay a price internationally and remain Israel's ally if Israelis choose this course. If you want to call that a liberal viewpoint so be it. Israel was a lot closer to peace under Labor and Kadima than it will EVER be under Likud. Likud holds on to power by maintaining conflict and fear. They have no incentive for peace because peace will ultimately lead to their downfall.

      Americans should not have to die to help an Israeli political party. That is not a liberal viewpoint. It is simple common sense.

      December 3, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Reply
  12. Steve

    'Not 'specifically' for Iran, LOL – yeah, where did we hear this before? We gots them, now we need to use them before their 'shelf life' is over – wonder where? I would 'imagine' the United States will give them to Israel just like they did with some 'nukes'!!!

    November 17, 2011 at 9:16 am | Reply
  13. MAKO 10

    The MOP FTW!!! Penetrates 60ft of solid concrete. Imagine how much earth it can sink into, love it, order 20 more, just in case!

    November 17, 2011 at 8:07 am | Reply
    • ranger 830

      Roger that Mako 10 , Fire for effect!!!!! How copy over....

      November 17, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Reply
      • Mister Jones

        Hit hit hit. ... But do it again anyway.

        November 17, 2011 at 2:17 pm |
  14. carlysimon

    CNN ILLITERATES!

    The word is "ordnance", not "ordinance".

    Dumbasses.

    November 17, 2011 at 3:11 am | Reply
    • HAHAHA

      Maybe they got bombs messed up with legal matters.

      November 17, 2011 at 10:34 am | Reply
  15. EOA

    Wow, you would think that they would come out with something that would curve the illegal immigration that is happening. Maybe cluster bombs or mines?

    November 17, 2011 at 2:21 am | Reply
    • JS

      The word is "curb" you ignorant twat.

      November 17, 2011 at 4:28 am | Reply
    • Grey

      Calm down JS

      November 17, 2011 at 7:19 am | Reply
  16. RAPTORS OP

    Military! It's not that hard! JUST BREED ZERG

    November 17, 2011 at 2:03 am | Reply
  17. Davis from Canada

    Nice bomb! Huge!

    ps. Please approve the keystone oil pipeline from Canada. We Canadians need to eat too. Plus we will give you a reliable supply of oil. Write to you congress man/woman. thx & have a great night!

    November 17, 2011 at 2:02 am | Reply
  18. m

    The military is fascinated with things that kill people. They can't help it, it's in their DNA.

    November 17, 2011 at 1:45 am | Reply
    • Billy Dean

      Well, yeah, thats kind of their job...

      November 17, 2011 at 2:01 am | Reply
    • Bob Hamilton

      When I joined the Marines there was a recruiting poster which read; "Travel to distant and exotic lands, Meet interesting and excited people, and kill them."
      I have always appreciated a clear mission statement.

      November 17, 2011 at 2:05 am | Reply
      • cythara

        I was in the Marines too, and that was never an actual recruiting poster. It was just a well known bit of 'Marine humor' that was tossed around among Marines.

        November 17, 2011 at 2:54 am |
      • dave

        Reach out and touch someone – be a sniper

        November 17, 2011 at 12:27 pm |
    • Marine5484

      Point being what exactly? It's kind of our job to defeat the enemy as violently, quickly, and overwhelmingly as possible.

      November 17, 2011 at 5:41 am | Reply
  19. whaa?

    STUXXXXXNET

    November 17, 2011 at 1:27 am | Reply
  20. PeaceBrotha

    Another waste of taxpayer funds and more killings by the us.

    November 17, 2011 at 1:01 am | Reply
    • Wylie-Mike

      Now if only you can convince Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that peace is the answer.

      November 17, 2011 at 1:08 am | Reply
      • PeaceBrotha

        I don't believe Iran has invaded any other country like the US or massacred innocent civilians like Israel. Stop listening to fox news and the crazy right wing.

        November 17, 2011 at 1:27 am |
      • redleg

        @PeaceBrotha-
        I guess your forgot about all the atrocities that Iran committed after their so-called elections? Remember all the innocent Iranians killed/jailed/ never heard from again?

        November 17, 2011 at 7:06 am |
      • Brad

        I also do nt think that Iran is surrounded by contries that have only one wish. Dead Jews. Stick that in your peace pipe and smoke it.

        November 17, 2011 at 9:41 am |
      • dave

        Remember the Shah - the CIA taught his secret police how to torture -- The Shah was the US puppet dictator

        The Iranians have good reason not to like the US

        November 17, 2011 at 12:39 pm |
      • PoPoessen

        Yo PeaceBrotha, here is a link to show you the extend of the Persian Empire (aka Iran).

        http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=persian+empire&view=detail&id=4DD31D3E7655421CE9CBC39297A591B2A56D332C&first=0&adlt=strict

        November 17, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
      • ntm91307

        PeaceBrotha – That may have something to do with the fact that up until now they really didn't want to and/or couldn't. Under the Shah (US puppet or no) Iran didn't rattle anyone's cage. Shortly after the Islamic revolution Iran pissed off Iraq (or the other way around, hard to tell) so they were kind of busy for about 8 years. Not much time, technology or resources to go around starting any other fights. Now, however, the landscape is a bit different.

        You've got a good-sized country with no natural predators in the area and all the time in the world on their hands gearing up for the ultimate in destructive power threatening to wipe out an entire neighbor while thumbing their nose at the world. The fact that they may not have invaded or attacked anyone lately is no indication of what they will do once they have the tools. Past performance is by NO means a guarantee of future actions.

        Now, if that idiot loud-mouthed president of theirs had kept his ignorant mouth shut Iran would have had a stronger "non-aggression" argument. Fortunately he really likes to hear himself talk. He may yet turn out to be the best ally we have in this, overall....:)

        My 2 cents...

        November 17, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
      • ChicagoRich

        I would point out that they have been involved in a few terrorist plots such as the 1992 Israeli embassy bombing in Argentina, had 'advisers' in the Bosnia conflict, provided the armaments that murdered 299 American and French servicemen, provided the supplies for rockets and munitions for hezbollah and hamas used almost daily in terrorist attacks. They also plotted to kill the Saudi Ambassador in Washington D.C. They manufactured most of the more sophisticated IED's used in Iraq and Afghanistan to kill U.S., NATO, and allied troops, and have threatened to annihilate another country stating Israel needs to be wiped off of the map. All the while, going full steam ahead on developing both nuclear weapons, and long range ballistic missiles to deliver them. I'm sure I left a few things out, but that is off the top of my head.

        Regardless of whether other readers may think it fair, I believe it would be in the World's long term best interest to prevent their obtaining these weapons and the use of force as a last resort to prevent that should be utilized if necessary, but that is just one persons opinion.

        December 14, 2011 at 12:40 am |
    • driranek

      After all, now that Iran has seen this article they'll disperse their WMD exactly like Pakistan did. The bomb is now worthless.

      November 17, 2011 at 12:16 pm | Reply
  21. Wfare

    Our economy is screwed, poverty is rising, schools can't get sufficient funding and we are fighting a war for Israel again. Damn we are freaking stupid.

    November 17, 2011 at 12:55 am | Reply
    • Wylie-Mike

      Yes. It is absolutely stupid that we are trying get out of debt by getting deeper into it. But who is it that is continuing the Bush policies?

      November 17, 2011 at 1:10 am | Reply
    • Thomas

      The Military Industrial Complex is an important part of the US economy.

      November 17, 2011 at 11:10 am | Reply
      • driranek

        Spend on education, infrastructure, or capital equipment and we get a large long term benefit. Spend on the military-industrial complex and you get bombs, ammo and stuff that may or may not actually get used and have zero long term benefit.

        November 17, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
  22. Wfare

    Further proof that the dirty zionists are calling the shots.

    November 17, 2011 at 12:52 am | Reply
    • Wylie-Mike

      And what is the alternative to Zion? So far the alternatives have not been appealing. Actually the alternative to Zion have been a violation of human rights.

      November 17, 2011 at 1:13 am | Reply
      • Billy Dean

        Israel killing innocents? Seems like the real animals are Palestinians and Iranian stooges Hamas, They're the ones blowing up women and children. Israel just puts down the animals. Only way to deal with them, to be honest.

        November 17, 2011 at 2:05 am |
      • dave

        Palestinians are terrorists - after learning tactics from Menachem Begin and the Irgun

        November 17, 2011 at 12:29 pm |
      • dave

        The Palestinians learned abuot bombing innocents from the Irgun and Menachem Begin

        November 17, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • PeaceBrotha

      @ billy dean that is what hitler said when he gassed the Jews, just putting down the animals.

      November 17, 2011 at 10:52 am | Reply
  23. mk927

    so if you drop a bomb on a nuclear warhead, wouldn't it just go off anyway? counterproductive taxpayer dollars at work?

    November 17, 2011 at 12:27 am | Reply
    • Wylie-Mike

      Nope. The radioactive material must be compressed to a central point with a force that the atoms begin to split. Dropping a bomb on it may cause the trigger explosives to detonate but not in a way that adequately starts the nuclear chain reaction. Worst case would be that the nuclear material gets dispersed into the air then showers down upon populated areas.

      November 17, 2011 at 1:03 am | Reply
      • Suma Beetch

        Well, sure the radioactive material would enter the atmosphere, then come down on top of a largely unsuspecting, much less innocent, populace. But, hey, it is not our fault someone left nuclear weapons laying around somewhere that not was safe!

        November 17, 2011 at 2:22 am |
    • cythara

      Radioactive particles are blown on the winds. You could cause a radioactive contamination cloud to drift all around the world right back to Los Angeles. I guess you have already forgotten about Fukushima's reactors and radiation leaks.

      November 17, 2011 at 2:59 am | Reply
    • allen

      Modern Nuclear weapons are not impact bombs. Hiroshima was but since then they now have warheads that have to be armed before they can detonate. Without the warheads being armed the bunker buster would simply smash and mangle all the pieces of the bombs with maybe some radioactive contamination in the immediate area.

      November 17, 2011 at 6:31 am | Reply
    • PoPoessen

      Sounds like MOP is more of a kinetic weapon anyway. The energy of a 30000 pound piece of steel falling from the sky can do enough damage to destroy the nuclear facility without a big mushroom cloud as you are apparently imagining. Will there be a release of radioactive material? Yuuuuup! But it will be far more isolated than Fukashima and Chernobyl. This is a much better option than religious caliphate loving zealots with a nuclear weapon(s). Aerial burst of nuclear weapon will spread more radioactive material than MOP and do far more widespread physical destruction. By Iran putting the facilities underground actually works to our benefit as it will be relatively contained. The US has done hundreds, if not thousands, of underground tests in its own back yard without much recourse (that we know of).

      November 17, 2011 at 12:34 pm | Reply
  24. cp

    sent one to Iran, north korea, along with a birthday Card, don't forget to signature as Uncle Sam

    November 16, 2011 at 11:22 pm | Reply
  25. markodavid

    Use a WMD to destroy a WMD =less than 0 sum

    November 16, 2011 at 11:08 pm | Reply
    • Rhoadsr

      A bunker buster is not a WMD by US or even UN definition. To be considered a WMD it must to be a nuclear, chemical, biological weapon, or ballistic missile. A simple explosive device does not make the cut. Sorry your argument is bunk, nice try though.

      November 16, 2011 at 11:43 pm | Reply
  26. markodavid

    Another Nuke,IKE was right beware the Military Industrial Complex.Looks like the 1% wins again!

    November 16, 2011 at 11:05 pm | Reply
    • redleg

      It's not a nuke. It's a conventional explosives weapon.

      November 17, 2011 at 7:09 am | Reply
  27. Maximo F. Fortu

    Given America's good track record as the world's peacemaker, I do believe this Nation is justified to possess this weapon.
    One may challenge me about "track records" but I don't see any to respond. God Bless America!

    November 16, 2011 at 10:33 pm | Reply
    • markodavid

      The atomic bombs dropped on Japan were to impress Russia NOT a military necessity.Please stop your US moral track record BS.This next generation of nukes is TERRORISM from the west plain and simple

      November 16, 2011 at 10:59 pm | Reply
      • whaa?

        Next generation nuke?

        its a big - conventional bomb!!!

        (I'll bet there's a nuke version though) 🙂

        Sherman, Patton, Eisenhower, MacArthur

        OUTTTTTTTT

        November 17, 2011 at 1:21 am |
      • John Doe

        Stan might not be that smart, but you are the worst of the arrogant. You were floating in an LST off Japan in 1945, were you? Or maybe you spent long years as a POW of the Japanese, watching as your friends starved or were beaten to death. Of course you know that the atomic bombs killed fewer Japanese than the firebombing of their cities. Have you considered how many Japanese would have been slaughtered in a US invasion. That would include children and babies. No one could more than guess at the tens of thousands of American dead any invasion of Japan would have caused. You are a classic left-wing zealot trying to bend history to fit your political views. Why not move to China?

        November 17, 2011 at 2:11 am |
      • Brad

        Better to say move to Iran or North Korea as China has no love lost for The japs.

        November 17, 2011 at 9:46 am |
      • driranek

        Absolutely false. The nukes dropped on Japan were to avoid having millions of soldiers killed attempting an invasion of Japan's massively defended home island.

        November 17, 2011 at 12:22 pm |
      • semper fi

        @markodavid
        you must be a REALLY SPECIAL and REALLY FOREIGN under educated guy!! 13 people telling you this is neither a WMD or a nuke and you just continue to murmmer on. classic EURO style. Crack a book for god sakes. I personally like guys like you, because to demonstrate to the Intelligent masses know undereducated the majority of the world is. KEEP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF BUD.

        November 20, 2011 at 11:06 pm |
      • ChicagoRich

        First of all, again it is not a nuclear bomb. That said, my father was in the army as were most of his generation around that time, and if we had had to invade Japan with conventional forces, the estimate was that about a million of our service men would be killed. That was based upon our experiences on Iwo Jima. The whole population of Japan would have likely also been similarly decimated had a land invasion occurred. The war was terrible no matter what happened at that point. My opinion that we were justified to use the weapon may be clouded by the fact that I might not exist if we had invaded Honshu in a similar manner to our invasion of Iwo Jima to end the war, but I believe that both Japan and the U.S. are better off for having the war end sooner rather than later. I don't think either Roosevelt's or Truman's decisions regarding the use of the bomb were intended primarily for the purpose of 'impressing' the Soviets, the prospect of a conventional landing and invasion were so dire as to provide much support to the idea of using the new weapons, and the full scope of radiation poisoning was not actually known at that point as well.

        December 14, 2011 at 12:54 am |
  28. StanCalif

    We "give" Israel 3 billion a year to buy our military hardware! I can only guess what they are ordering now! Let Israel just try one of these bombs on Iran, it will be the end of Israel! (Maybe not such a bad thing!) Israel is just stupid enough to try it! Their argument will be "it's not a nuclear weapon"!

    November 16, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Reply
    • whaa?

      the end of Israel??

      Laughable ... if any of Israels enemies had the means the game would already be on ...

      Sheeples

      November 17, 2011 at 1:23 am | Reply
      • whaa?

        p.s. Israel has already tried it ... on more than one occassion ... successfully ....

        do some research

        Iraq, Syria ... (next)

        November 17, 2011 at 1:24 am |
    • John Doe

      You are not that bright. Or, you know the truth and choose to ignore it.

      November 17, 2011 at 1:59 am | Reply
    • dave

      WHY DO WE HELP ISRAEL THE ENEMY OF THE ARABS - ask anyone who works in the World Trade Center in NYC - Oops

      November 17, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Reply
    • PoPoessen

      Spelled your name wrong dummy! Should be StanCaliph...

      November 17, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Reply
  29. Maximo F. Fortu

    Given the US good track record, as a world's peacemaker, I feel more convinced that this Nation should have this kind of weapon. I respect other people's views and opinion on this subject – in the same token, I hope I get the same thing. God Bless America!

    November 16, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Reply
    • markodavid

      When you proclaim "God bless America" Are you making a request for a blessing that has yet to arrive?A blessing for America and no one else? Or more blessings on top of all the blessings America has enjoyed and wasted?

      November 16, 2011 at 11:03 pm | Reply
      • common

        Shut up already. If you do live in the US...please do us all a favor and pack your bags. Go somewhere you no longer have the freedom of speech because all you're doing is abusing it by poluting the air with nonsense.

        November 17, 2011 at 6:07 am |
      • semper fi

        easy there common,
        its no coincidence that markodavid and dave share a common name, they're both mindless drones filling the internet with their propaganda, I'm sure if either of these two ever had an original thought, idea, or belief their heads would split open and the voices they call "ALLAH" would spill right out. NOT THAT THAT WOULD BE A TRADGEDY!!!!!!

        November 20, 2011 at 11:21 pm |
  30. Ken S

    Give Bunker Buster bombs to Israel to test.

    November 16, 2011 at 9:53 pm | Reply
    • LMAO

      Like they didn't buy none for themselves?

      November 16, 2011 at 10:09 pm | Reply
      • Zoglet

        nope. they didnt "buy none for themselves" the US gave them to Israel.
        Great way to ratchet up tension and destablise the region eh?

        November 16, 2011 at 10:15 pm |
      • Thomas

        Zoglet,

        From a Military Industrial Complex viewpoint, nothing stabilizes profits like destabilizing regions.

        Fear is good for business

        November 17, 2011 at 11:13 am |
    • cythara

      They already have.

      November 17, 2011 at 3:00 am | Reply

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