Next war could be a click away
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November 7th, 2011
10:27 PM ET

Next war could be a click away

By Senior National Security Producer Larry Shaughnessy

DARPA, the agency that really did invent the Internet, is now looking at ways the Web might be used to fight the next war.

DARPA stands for Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, a Pentagon office that researches everything from cutting-edge cybersecurity to hypersonic airplanes.

The agency's director, Regina Dugan, told a gathering of cybersecurity experts Monday that "DARPA will focus an increasing portion of our cyber research on the investigation of offensive capabilities to address military specific needs."

In the past, the main focus of DARPA and other DoD cybersecurity offices has been defensive, protecting the Pentagon's worldwide network of computers from hackers and "malware" - invasive software designed with malicious intent.

Now DARPA is looking at how to reach out and attack, through cyberspace, the entities trying to break into and disrupt DoD computers.

"To this end, in the coming years, DARPA will focus an increasing portion of our cyber research on the investigation of offensive capabilities to address military specific needs," Dugan said. How much of a "portion?" Dugan says that in the next five years, the Pentagon, which is in the midst of massive budget cuts, will increase DARPA's cyber-research budget by half a billion dollars.

Exactly how the Pentagon will use the Internet to attack adversaries is still unclear. Dugan didn't say and didn't take questions during the event Monday at a hotel near the Pentagon.

Pentagon spokesman Capt. John Kirby wouldn't elaborate on what the Pentagon might do. "Frankly it would be inappropriate for us to get into the details of specifically what we we're looking at," Kirby said.

He did say that the options are wide open, since unlike the Geneva Convention that governs conventional wars, no similar agreements exist for cyberwar. "This is frankly a realm in which there are no international norms and no regulating policies internationally and it's one we are trying to get our hands around," Kirby said.

Cybersecurity goes well beyond well-known threats to privacy and the release of personal information.

"Malicious cyberattacks are not merely an existential threat to our bits and bytes, they are a real threat to an increasingly large number of systems that we interact with daily, for the power grid, to our financial systems, to our automobiles and our military systems," Dugan said.

And that can happen in an instant. "A connected, motivated group can now accomplish tasks otherwise thought impossible, at speeds and scales that we are only beginning to understand," said Dugan.

How fast? Dugan used a non-malicious event to show how fast the cyber-world can move.

"During the 5.9 magnitude earthquake that hit the East Coast on August 23 ... there were almost 40,000 tweets within minutes and tweets from DC reached New York City ahead of the seismic wave itself."

This research into possible Pentagon avenues of attack via cyberspace does not mean DARPA can let down its guard in terms of defending against cyberattacks.

But the man in charge of stopping those attacks believes "cloud computing" represents a significant tool in protecting not only the Pentagon's networks, but also its budget.

"It's easier to secure the cloud and there's more than we can do with it," said Gen. Keith Alexander the commander of U.S. Army Cyber Command."I personally believe that taking a step towards the cloud is the right thing. It's cheaper - we can come up with virtual networks, virtual routers, virtual databases, better encryption systems."

How much cheaper? In recent years, Alexander said switching to cloud computing has saved the DoD more than $100 Million in software licenses alone.

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  1. Soicanleavecomments OnBlogs

    lol
    10 fry all computers
    20 goto 10
    run

    November 16, 2011 at 11:47 am | Reply
  2. yavuz

    hearltess americans make this world bad star war against the poor countries for oil either you guys blind or believe what tv says they hide things one day .....

    November 14, 2011 at 7:56 pm | Reply
    • DickT|ckle

      No.

      November 15, 2011 at 1:04 am | Reply
  3. RunnerX

    this is just keeping up with the Jones's. China already has an entire military branch now just to do this kind of thing. Once again, china sets the pace.

    November 13, 2011 at 9:16 am | Reply
    • Chinese propaganda stinks

      Youre a chinese propaganda queen. suhki suhki ten dollah.

      November 13, 2011 at 9:59 pm | Reply
    • Jones Cadbury

      China sets the pace .. by using American invented Internet and doing what 12 year old Americans did while China was still making fire crackers for a living . That's not what we consider setting the pace here in the West, but then again China has low standards for everything.

      November 13, 2011 at 10:01 pm | Reply
    • SK

      Every branch of our military has been involved to some extent for many years – we have a high-tech military. Include agencies such as the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc. – we don't need a separate branch of military we already have it covered.

      November 14, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Reply
      • S

        Those agencies do more than just focus on cyber attacks. Granted, they do take measures against them, but depending on how in-depth they are, it would make sense to devote more than just a small branch to securing our cyber infrastructure and planning cyber ops.

        November 15, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
  4. Jack

    Cyperspace war ? First, let's stop the war against our own people who are killed, jailed, careers, lives destroyed, properties confiscated and children being tossed into foster homes and its all about this Nations war on drugs . Which is really a war brought on by the Corporations, Industries that support Marijuana prohibition and its time we stop the genocide against our own people and the people abroad .

    November 12, 2011 at 3:42 pm | Reply
    • Jones Cadbury

      Vague nonsense = Chinese propaganda.

      November 13, 2011 at 10:02 pm | Reply
  5. M4 Skull F_cker

    All I know is that I enjoy skull f_cking the mutant Allah Hu Akbar screaming muslims with my M4

    November 11, 2011 at 10:29 am | Reply
    • Snake Eater

      Hardcore!

      November 15, 2011 at 11:51 pm | Reply
    • Someone

      You are an ignorant idiot and I hope one day you realize how extremely stupid you are and change your filthy ways.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:00 pm | Reply
  6. Kerry

    This could actually be what we are looking at for Dec. 2012. War of cyberspace. The damage could be bloodless yet devastating to us all.

    November 11, 2011 at 10:28 am | Reply
    • Jones Cadbury

      Until now we've acted defensively, since China has no infrastructure worth. But we might just go after what little they do have now.

      November 13, 2011 at 10:04 pm | Reply
  7. who?

    Terminator was right... and this is how the "War of the Machines" starts

    November 11, 2011 at 1:32 am | Reply
    • Phil in Oregon

      I was also thinking about Terminator while I read the article. The sum of the environment protection practices is the elimination of the source of all environmental problems – MAN. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

      November 12, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Reply
    • Jones Cadbury

      It's really a war between China and the US, which so far has been one sided and heavily denied. But now, it's time.

      November 13, 2011 at 10:05 pm | Reply
  8. Honorably Discharged

    I wish it were as simple as pushing a button but it isnt. We have months and sometimes years of training followed by boring routines punctuated by abrupt horror. These conflicts are not fun. I didnt enjoy riding around these areas with my unit and I certainly didnt enjoy killing anyone on a rational level anyway. Unfortunately we were sent in to do a job which has its own dangers and yes we sometimes had to kill people. Unfortunately wityh so many operations some innocent civilians died and I feel sorry for them. But there were many times we were under attack and had to respond with lethal force. We have our rules of engagement and I guess they have theirs. For those stupid enough to challenge us the odds were that more of them are going to die than us. Bottom line though – this is not about pushing a button. This is a matter of a full mobilization of men and material to deal with our adversaries. If they are smart they would just obey us wheil we are here and we wouldnt have to fight them.

    November 10, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Reply
  9. Zach

    For anyone interested in ending the war in Afghanistan, visit the Facebook Page titled, "End the War in Afghanistan Now". "Like" the page so you can spread posts (articles, wall posts, etc.) that are placed on the wall...the more people who like it, the more pressure we can place on our political officials. Also, read the 11 reasons why we need to end the war (located in the info section). Spread the word...Together, we can bring the troops home.

    November 10, 2011 at 11:41 am | Reply
    • StanCalif

      Yes, I agree! Bring home our troops. Then what? Send them to the unemployment line? Our "rich" have done so much to create jobs, we need to give them more tax breaks! Ha Ha Ha! Tax breaks don't create jobs! Veterans especially deserve to be hired, yet many employers view military service as a big risk today! So, more homeless on our streets – right next to the Vietnam vets who received such a "warm" welcome home! Now that we have an all volunteer military, any young person is stupid to choose this! Veteran benefits amount to about nothing!

      November 12, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Reply
      • Patriot

        So, with your decision, we would either have no armed forces to defend ourselves or a draft. I do not like either of these choices...

        November 16, 2011 at 9:57 am |
  10. Laura

    Reading most of comments here is like listening patients of a mental institution for deep retardation...Thanks God, we still have some reasonable voices....

    November 9, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Reply
    • Clinton

      Laura,
      Understand that even though the majority of bloggers on this post say rediculous crazy crap that you would expect out of an asylum... The majority of the population just doesn't blog at all... it's generally held that if you have a normal set of ideas and a fairly standard belief system you are less likely to put your ideas out there for everyone to see... If you're a wierdo, you want people to see your ideas... so you post everywhere you can... mostly for attention i think... It's kind of like bumper stickers... the Majority of people do not have them.. the ones you do see are often fairly extreme... it's because normal people don't need to post their beliefs on their car's bumper because they're secure in their ideas... .. It's basically this... a person who would normally be told to shut up because their crazy ideas are stupid.. looks at the internet and loves it... because they are completely anonomous and they can say what they want however crazy it is and not face the people they're spewing their BS to.

      November 9, 2011 at 5:49 pm | Reply
  11. Muslim

    بارك الله في الأراضي المقدسة في إسرائيل، والذين دائما!

    November 9, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Reply
    • Jones Cadbury

      Don't worry, you can't hack sand or camels.

      November 13, 2011 at 10:06 pm | Reply
  12. driranek

    A half billion oughta buy you a back door into every computing device on the planet... oh, wait...

    November 9, 2011 at 4:21 pm | Reply
  13. HinduStud

    I have met lots of nice Muslims nd Xtians in my personal life. Love them all, except the few, who wants to kill innocent people(Muslims) and others(Xtians who want to attack Muslim countries). War(Xtians) will not resolve terrorism , and Sucide bombings(Muslim) who kill innocent people , will not free their land. Try diplomacy , and learn to not be stubborn , and take revenge. You both need to learn , how to get out of the situation without winning. Win comes with price of innocent people and hatred. Give up and let go, will calm the enemy down. Learn something from hinduism, religion of peace and love !! Eventhou majority of us Hindus(except me) are ugly, but we love life and dont seek revenge !

    November 9, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Reply
    • HinduStud

      With war(xtians) and suicide bombings(muslims), we are killing innocent xtians and muslims who love human life, and dont want revenge.. just get rid of the few bad guys, not the entire muslim nation . I support drone attacks in pakistan, just few bad people.. most people in muslim countries are nice, just like most of us Americans are .. just few bad seeds !!

      November 9, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Reply
    • qw21

      hindu stud? I bet people who know you probably think that you are a dud.

      November 9, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Reply
      • HinduStud

        Yes QW, I am an "Exceptionally" good-looking Hindu.. I could go back to India and become a Bollywood Actor !! If I didnt have that 1% of that accent, I could have joined Hollywood by now, and eaily take Tom Cruise out of his Job !!

        November 9, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
    • Clinton

      Not even sure what the heck to think of this post... first off this guy obviously doesn't understand that the US, though a majority Christian, is not a "Christian" country... there's no official religion of this country and we have separation of church and state... ... second... How can you come at us with this religion of peace bull!#$@% when you Hindu's have been fighting with the muslims over Kashmir for.... a LONG Time... and have waged MANY wars in the past... so get off your high horse moron... India is constantly in dispute with the Arab world... also... for all the talk about religion being the basis for all these wars... most of the wars in the middle east and elsewhere in the world are fought over land disputes... natural resources... and most of all... ethnic divisions... not religion... Lastly... You're an idiot... you obviously don't grasp the situation... so just keep your dumb mouth shut.

      November 9, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Reply
      • HinduStud

        ok Mr.Clinton...actually he is my fav. President.. dont blemish his name.. you are nowhere close to him . Anyways, India has never attacked a country or waged a war, it was all self-defense. They attacked us first, so we puffed them away. We had 9/11 on 11/26 in India too, but that does not mean we are going to attack Pakistan and all muslim countries. Few bad people in Pakistan does not make the entire Pakistan bad. So, never in the history of India, India has attacked another country, they were attacked first, so it was self-defense. Hindus believe in forgiving. Bad muslims and bad xtians should learn that from hindus !! And Yes , I am an exceptionally good looking Hindu.. we Indians might not have looks, but we are the nicest people on the planet.. learn something from us Hindus !! How to forgive and admit your loss, because loss is worth the lives of Innocent Xtians and Muslims.. not all are bad. And with wars and suicide bombs.. so many innocent Muslims and Xtians respecively die. Only 1% of Muslims might be extremist, rest of them love humans, and dont want to kill anyone.. Xtians are less voilent, maybe 0.01% are extremist.. Hindus are the most peaceful.. almost 100% believe in peace, matter of fact , symbol of hinduism means "Peace".. ohm !!

        November 9, 2011 at 6:32 pm |
      • Chinese propaganda stinks

        It chinese propaganda. They love to bash the US via proxy characters online, to divert our response. Most Indians I know admire the US response to terrorists.

        November 14, 2011 at 10:47 am |
    • Anotherstud

      well said brother. But, it is unfortunate that, these 2 communities dont understand the concept of Non-violence/peace/forgiveness/tolerance. Maybe their food habbits make them that way. we are helpless for them. Only option we have is to stay back & watch. Let them decide, who among them is best. In whatever way they want.

      November 9, 2011 at 6:50 pm | Reply
      • HinduStud

        Yes thanks AnotherStud.. you are right, everyone should follow the path of forgiveness, like Gandhi !!

        November 9, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
      • Chinese propaganda stinks

        I think youre a fake.

        November 14, 2011 at 10:44 am |
  14. Chasidic

    אלוהים מברך את ארץ הקודש של ישראל ואנשים שלה תמיד!!

    November 9, 2011 at 1:54 pm | Reply
    • Benjamin

      nice use of the babylon or google translator... a real hebrew speaker would not have said that phrase that way... anyway, Thanks for the intentions

      November 9, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Reply
    • Tex71

      Same to you, buddy.

      November 9, 2011 at 3:42 pm | Reply
    • Socrates

      Que huevada de lenguaje es ese?

      November 9, 2011 at 3:47 pm | Reply
      • Benjamin

        Una pista... no es el idioma de los ignorantes ilegales recojedores de verduras

        November 9, 2011 at 7:32 pm |
      • Para Bergamin

        Verduras que tu compras baratas y comes. pendejo.

        November 15, 2011 at 9:46 am |
  15. ...............None ya business

    Yall need some dam help i wouldnt trust any of you with a fishing pole cause id be scared you'd poke some poor persons eye out

    November 9, 2011 at 12:57 pm | Reply
  16. Look in the mirror

    If You people want to blame someone for all the warmongering, just look in the mirror. As soon as we go on our next shock and awe campaign complete with coverage by Wolf Blitzer, I am sure that most of the population will wrap themselves around the flag and speak of how wonderful our military is and how they are protecting us from the dark forces out there and preserving our freedom. If we cant get our fill of enough violence from football, ice hockey, or Ultimate fight Championships, we just turn on the tube as whole cities are blown up in the name of homeland security. How do You expect these soldiers to think with the perverse training combined with the complete lack of regard for human life as they witness unspeakable death and carnage visited upon communities in these countries. Also, how do You expect surviving family members of "collateral damage" to feel about these wanton and indescriminate acts of violence.

    November 9, 2011 at 10:26 am | Reply
  17. Rodolfo Villasenor

    I remember Regina Dugan. She was the keynote speaker at my graduation. Interesting person!

    November 8, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Reply
  18. dc

    wow....this type of communication really harms our professional military image when the public reads comments like these. Think about what your writing and communicating.....is this what you want others to think of us when they see us in uniform????

    November 8, 2011 at 8:47 pm | Reply
    • private first class

      Come on. Lets not be babies about this. We understand what our roles are going in. It just isnt about shaking hands and making friends with these people. Our job and purpose is to put as many of theirs into body bags as possible. Like that is a big revelation ? And as if fulfilling our training isnt fun ? I am not ashamed to say I enjoy killing these mutants. My agression is beyond words and when we go out for a roust about, all I want to do is execute a few of the locals and get a luttle poonanny from the local young hoochies. They love American male man meat mostly. I also like to shoot theiir pets for fun. Making them cry is what we are about. They need to fear us. WE are the USA the greatest force in the world!

      November 8, 2011 at 10:06 pm | Reply
      • marine brat

        dude you have a problem anyone that enjoys killing people shouldnt be in the military and putting them in body bags is not the goal its to stop them. jeez man you need some help

        November 9, 2011 at 9:49 am |
      • Bob

        private first class, you are either a child trying to get attention or mentally ill. Either case, go away.

        November 9, 2011 at 5:10 pm |
      • Clinton

        I can tell you already this guy isn't in the Military. He's just a fat loser with no life and figures he'll go online and decieve some people on the internet. Don't believe everything you read people. I am a former US army soldier and i served in Iraq... i can tell you if someone actually was like this he'd be arrested and do jail time in a military prison. For pretty much anything he talked about doing here... if he killed a civilian on purpose he'd go to jail for murder... if he had sex with a civilian he'd lose all rank and go to jail for disobeying a direct order which forbids having sex especially with a citizen of the host country... As a soldier, we were all trained to kill but also trained to follow rules of engagement... i can tell everyone else in here with pretty strong conviction... this guy isn't a soldier.... rather he's likely either anti-American trying to convince American's that their soldiers are evil... or he's just a fat loser sitting behind a computer screen that plays too much call of duty and has never touched a girl in his life, nor seen combat... Trust me people... In combat zones, US soldier's are more appropriate abroad than they are at home... there's no drinking, people are under constant supervision... and believe me.. nothing this idiot said is indicative of how true soldiers carry themselves or operate especially in a foreign country.

        November 9, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
      • butterflytica

        If you think everyone should fear the US, you are messed up because you should fear God for thinking like that. You are the problem, not the solution!

        November 10, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
      • StanCalif

        Obviously a Marine!

        November 12, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
      • S

        I hope you're "trolling". If not, I would have to say it hasn't been an honor knowing people like you represent our country. Yeah, these people have messed up ideals, but that doesn't mean you should get satisfaction out of killing anyone. If you do, something is wrong with you, buddy. I know that seeing war firsthand can desensitize someone from the horrors that come with fighting in it. Expressing negative aggression is not the way to handle your discontent. Yeah, they might deserve to pay for their actions, but they're also human. Ignorant, but human.

        November 15, 2011 at 4:07 pm |
  19. us1776

    You know, let's not and say we did.

    .

    November 8, 2011 at 6:24 pm | Reply
  20. JeffinIL

    The cloud is easier to secure? Uh, no.

    November 8, 2011 at 5:28 pm | Reply
  21. C ANDERSON

    HIMSELF LIVES IN ARIZONA HELP ! THE MEXACANS ARE COMEING, CALIFORNIA AND TEXAS THE SAME !
    WE HAVE BEEN INVADED FOR YEARS AND ARE LAWS AND GOVERMENT ARE NOT WORKING SENSE THE
    TELEPHONE DIAL AND NOW IT'S THE COMPUTER ! WHAT NEXT ?

    November 8, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Reply
    • paralyzer

      no, just no

      November 8, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Reply
    • nate

      OUR schools are failing ever SINCE "no child left behind" left most of the children behind. It's not the mexicans you need to worry about, your own stupidity will be the death of you.

      November 8, 2011 at 7:13 pm | Reply
  22. James

    This will be one of The Next Government Agency To Be Created in this Century National Cyber Security. I Will Train as a Hacker so i can join.

    November 8, 2011 at 4:47 pm | Reply
  23. Dreamer96

    What we really could use are some robot policemen, like Gort, remember the movie "The day the Earth stood still"...but of course who programs them...

    November 8, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Reply
  24. JoeT

    (Major) Wars that the US didn't win
    1812 was a draw. (Thank goodness Napoleon was a much bigger fish for the Brits
    Korea was a draw (a win if you consider status quo ante bellum as victory)
    Viet Nam (winning battles does not win wars)

    "on Drugs", "on Poverty", "on Terror" do not count, since these wars have no clear adversaries, strategies, operations, or victory conditions.

    November 8, 2011 at 4:31 pm | Reply
    • StanCalif

      Right! "We" haven't won any war since WWII. Even WWII wasn't completely our victory. Yes, we won in the Pacific but Europe was saved by the Soviets! Sure, we never hear about this but it is true! The Soviets fought Hitler back to his bunker. Sure, we supplied them with a limited amount of aid. But what made them win was the lines behind the front lines armed and shooting any Soviet soldier who dared to retreat! After the war, Stalin went totally insane and killed millions of his own people. This is victory?

      November 12, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Reply
      • TTH

        Must to the disagreement by Montgomery, Eisenhower left Berlin to the Soviets on purpose. The western allies received intelligence that Hitler would use the mountains of Bavaria as his last stand. Eisenhower decided that it was more worthwhile to take Bavaria. Realizing that the information was faulty, Montgomery led the sprint charge to cut the Soviet's advances. The western allies were able to drive the wedge between the Soviets and the Germans in Hanover and Denmark by mere hours, stopping any further Soviet advances into West Europe.

        November 15, 2011 at 10:41 am |
  25. jj

    All the more reason to reelect President Obama. He won't plunge the country into war without a very good reason, unlike W.

    November 8, 2011 at 2:26 pm | Reply
    • Howard

      ovomit will just hand America over to the mu slims ... along with his chicken sh it friend sarkozy.

      IT'S TIME FOR AIPAC ...
      and all other pro-American, pro-ally, pro-Israel, groups
      to put all of their resources behind ANYBODY
      who runs against obama in 2012 !!!

      November 8, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Reply
      • ministry of madness

        you're not an idiot howard.

        November 8, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
      • Walther Shmitstein

        Israel supports apartheid policies in an illegally garrisoned land. Just like a tumor in the brain, the patient may survive if the tumor is removed.

        November 8, 2011 at 5:54 pm |
    • ministry of madness

      you're an idiot.

      November 8, 2011 at 3:21 pm | Reply
    • Dave

      Internet was invented at CERN. DARPA was just behind it in the U.S. that's all.

      November 8, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Reply
      • Anon

        DARPA invented the internet. CERN invented the World Wide Web, the system using hyperlinks, etc., to make the internet more accessible.

        November 8, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
  26. Sam

    DARPA didn't invent the internet

    November 8, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Reply
    • Sean

      ARPAnet became the modern internet when it was opened to educational institutions and eventually commercialized. Check your history.

      November 8, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Reply
    • Seraphim0

      Way to know what you're talking about, Sam.

      November 8, 2011 at 2:05 pm | Reply
    • S

      Actually, I'm pretty sure it was the AARP. Get your letters straight 🙂

      November 15, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Reply
  27. Change

    Yea, Key in the phrase Crawford Ranch then push the button.

    November 8, 2011 at 1:33 pm | Reply
  28. James Bond

    Kill on and on and on

    November 8, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Reply
  29. James Bond

    You dont get good at something you dont enjoy

    November 8, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Reply
  30. James Bond

    Uninformed, mindless sheep, stickup for the ragheads, our military created theese killing machines, now you want them to not enjoy it?

    November 8, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Reply
  31. James Bond

    Shannon, if you live in usa, please leave, your trash

    November 8, 2011 at 12:58 pm | Reply
  32. Shannon

    I hope to God someone in the armed forces is reading these comments and trying to find the identities of these psychos, so they can be kicked out of the military. Assuming of course, that they all arent' just of armchair generals spouting their private fantasies.

    November 8, 2011 at 12:58 pm | Reply
    • Sean

      As a U.S. military veteran who has worked cybersecurity and intelligence for the government, I can tell you my fellow soldiers, airmen, marines, sailors are thankful for the critical intelligence we provided "from the comfort of a chair". Every person in the military serves their function to the team as a whole.

      November 8, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Reply
      • Sean

        @Shannon: My apologizes. I misread what you wrote. I interpreted your post as criticizing those who serve(d) in ways other than the front lines.

        November 8, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
    • Seraphim0

      Shannon, they're more than likely just trolling around. That or they're about to get a section 8.

      November 8, 2011 at 2:13 pm | Reply
  33. James Bond

    Right on Ranger5, new conquerer, crimson mist indeed, lovely color, harvesting ragheads, priceless! my buddy from the war said the same thing, love the 50 cal, favorite jihad grinder

    November 8, 2011 at 12:55 pm | Reply
  34. anobody

    The U.S. needs new leadership. Change from within. It is time to wall off Israel with troops and make sure they stay within their borders and force them to comply with their own rules. The U.S. and it allies have become a nation of preemptive war to avoid war. This is not sustainable, the U.S. is alienating major powers on this planet and before long the U.S. will be standing alone. Not to mention all the problems the U.S. has in its own backyard. There are many more positive and innovative missions that the U.S. could embark upon that would improve foreign relations. Let countries like Iran live up to their statements that they are pursuing peaceful energy technologies. If they don't then they will fall on their face and it will be their own undoing.
    If you lived in a country that was attacked because of what another country believed you may do would that not make you want to then attack the aggressor? War may be big business but it is not a sustainable model for global relations.

    November 8, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Reply
  35. New Conquestador

    The thing about all this that empires are forged through war and war is necessarily cruel. What is life all about anyway. It certainly has to be about vanquishing Your enemies. I was in the marines too and when I went to boot camp, I was no different than the rest. But two and half years in Iraq and with some of my buddies blown to bits by IEDs I found that I really enjoy blowing up bodies of these vermin with the mounted 50 cal. There is no feeling like it in the world so now I love the violence of it. It is better than sex. I understand the feelings of some here that would condemn us, but You havent walked in our shoes. After You have been in a few fire fights, You will either love it or hate it. I personally love it humiliating the enemy and am proud of my service in ruthlessly killing a lot of ugly arab monkees. Plus we are protecting the freedoms of our fellow Americans.

    November 8, 2011 at 12:04 pm | Reply
    • barkallnight

      You are a disgusting human being. You are no different than Jeffery Dahmer. And the fact that you probably masturbate to these sick thoughts only makes me sicker. You need to check into a mental health facility.

      November 8, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Reply
    • Shannon

      If the Marines were anywhere near as honorable as they claim they'd have kicked you out long ago. Welcome to the downfall of America.

      November 8, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Reply
    • Seraphim0

      You're not a solider. You're a boy with a bully complex that never grew up.

      November 8, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Reply
    • Clyde

      The way you have embraced the version of "enemy" You will lose your reason to live. You have been brain washed by the Oil
      and Arms Profiteers. May God Have Mercy On Your Soul.

      November 8, 2011 at 4:24 pm | Reply
    • Walther Shmitstein

      You are the reason that there is no honor in war. You are a criminal, and your future in prison will be marked by all manner of sodomy and forced penetration. Peace out loser.

      November 8, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Reply
    • Clinton

      Maybe not everybody had the chance to connect the dots, but this same guy has posted under 3 names on this blog... it's just some dumb kid that is trying to say he's a soldier... he's just some dumb 13 year old kid that's been left unsupervised to play call of duty for too long... i was a soldier and i served in Iraq... nobody felt like this guy... often having to kill insurgents takes a heavy toll on your heart, even if it's absolutely life or death... nobody comes out of it excited and happy... nobody.. so you have to ask yourself one question when looking at this post... is it likely that we're dealing with a sociopath... a jeffrey Dahmer as someone put it, which is a rare instance? or more likely just some dumb punk that either wants to make US soldiers look bad, or even more likely a stupid kid that thinks he's funny?

      November 9, 2011 at 5:34 pm | Reply
  36. HolisticDNA

    लेखक डैन ब्राउन स्टीव meyer संत anthonys चर्च पिता mollinger
    Real Time Supernatural Internet Creation

    November 8, 2011 at 11:57 am | Reply
  37. Michael

    Wow, there's nothing like a news story on war to bring out the crazies and sociopaths, and that's saying a lot considering I was in the Marine Corps!

    November 8, 2011 at 11:54 am | Reply
  38. kikeslayer

    americunts will suck big cock in next war

    November 8, 2011 at 11:41 am | Reply
    • Warrior

      Dont worry, we will come to your country and put Your remains in a nice rubber body bag after we shoot You to smithereens. We will stuff Your throat with ground pork, pee and defecate on Your face before we place Your face on the ground and rape Your daughters before we kill them too.

      November 8, 2011 at 11:49 am | Reply
      • barkallnight

        Really dude.

        November 8, 2011 at 12:01 pm |
      • butterflytica

        Vile and disgusting, I wait patiently for my Father to make this shithole right again, for that I am willing to die...So much hate in the hearts of men where there should be love.

        November 10, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
  39. Invincible

    We have never lost a war. We will overcome and kill all of our enemies. Thanks be to our armed forces. Say thank You to a soldier today. Evil will be defeated ruthlessly. We will burn these people to a crisp.

    November 8, 2011 at 9:06 am | Reply
    • Retrospect

      I hear nothing but war mongering…did you ever consider a scenario where everyone thought like you?
      One could indisputably argue that you are part of the same problem, really no different, but on the opposite site of the equation. In reality, you are just like them…except you were born in US…which is most likely no credit to you.
      If you ever bothered to question WHY they have such a disregard for our life’s and our freedom…its because they think just like you!!! Let that soak in!

      November 8, 2011 at 11:55 am | Reply
      • butterflytica

        All Americans who fail to attempt to make life better for others, should have to live in a 3rd world country under despicable conditions and limited resources to then see why WE, the mighty USA (the conquerers), are depised by so many worldwide. Why do we as Americans feel so entitled under such a false sense of security?

        November 10, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
    • barkallnight

      What about Korea, or Vietnam, or the Drug War or,...

      November 8, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Reply
      • Dude

        We are totally winning the drug war hands down.

        Oh wait, are you on the anti drug side?

        November 8, 2011 at 12:07 pm |
    • Shannon

      Never lost a war? You might remember a little thing called VIETNAM, right? Not to mention Somalia. Oh, found those WMD's yet?

      November 8, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Reply
      • kirk

        yes shannon they did do you know what yellow cake (4 tons) it is Concentrated Uranium ore. Can be reprocessed into uranium gas, which is a feedstock for uranium enrichment. Enriched uranium can be used in nuclear weapons; at low levels can be used as fuel for nuclear energy plants. ( CAN U SAY NUKE MATS ) i??? probably not with your education lvl
        and all the nerve agents we took out...THOSE ARE WMD'S YOU PATHETIC TWIT

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        The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.

        What's now left is the final and complicated push to clean up the remaining radioactive debris at the former Tuwaitha nuclear complex about 12 miles south of Baghdad

        in its raw form it cannot be used as a weapon but can be used for seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment

        November 8, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
      • kirk

        we did not loose vietnam we left the us WON every battle but your to stupid to know that

        November 8, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
    • fred

      Vietnam – won the battles, lost the war by running home. We should have clearly and easily won. Salutes to the Nam vets. Afghanistan/Iraq – almost won the wars. No leaders to lead the effort, only good generals to take stupid orders from stupid presidents (Bush & Obama) who were never in a uniform. NO ONE SHOULD EVER BE ELECTED PRESIDENT WITHOUT FIRST HAVING SERVED IN SOME ARMED FORCES. War on Poverty – BS, pull your own weight. War on Drugs – BS. kill drug dealers and smugglers on sight. Allow ALL citizens to shoot to kill drug dealers/smugglers with a bounty payment. War on Terror – only the real Americans are fighting it. Not over yet.....Where do you stand?

      November 8, 2011 at 4:57 pm | Reply
      • Shannon

        Against terrorism, of course. Which is why I'll probably end up shooting you.

        November 9, 2011 at 2:27 am |
  40. Drone Operator

    I have enjoyed blowing up a lot of these religious fanatics. Its better than dungeons and dragons. There is nothing like turning a moving SUV into a fireball and watching the carnage after the smoke clears. GO USA !!! We are the conquerers of the world !!!

    November 8, 2011 at 8:52 am | Reply
    • Shannon

      Dear God, they actually let you into the military?

      November 8, 2011 at 12:55 pm | Reply
    • Clinton

      Drone Operator – You realize anybody that looks at this full article of posts can tell that you've posted under the name Ranger5, Conquistador, Private first class and obviously Drone Operator... which by the way isn't what we call them in the Army... so... we pretty much know you're just some dumb kid that plays too much call of duty... move along idiot... i suspect your parents would paddle your ass if they knew you were writing dumb crap like this on the internet.

      November 9, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Reply
    • Patriot

      you think your funny, don't you punk? Hope you enjoy Hell, along with New Conquestador, Private First Class, and Ranger 5. Oh wait, this is the same douchebag under different names!!!

      November 16, 2011 at 10:16 am | Reply
  41. billybob22

    I say Nuke Iran. These supreme Mullahs need a waking up, or in this case, a good nuclear winter.. Bombs away!!!

    November 8, 2011 at 1:16 am | Reply
    • t

      Heating up IRAN to 1000 degrees without the dangers of radiation could be just as effective.

      November 8, 2011 at 11:30 am | Reply
    • fred

      Only one American President and NO other president or world leader has ever had the BALLS to use nuclear weapons. What a shame. So much time, money and effort for decades and untold years/decades of science research and invention/innovation wasted on technology that will never be used because our "leaders" are too scared. So many wars that have started could have been quickly stifled (like Japan in 1945) if leaders actually used the nukes we have around the world. Iraq/Afghanistan, Vietnam, Persian Gulf War I, could have been/should have been 30-day wars.

      November 8, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Reply
      • SDF

        Wow you are a moron. You do realize that if they had done that, the USSR would have vaporized us with nukes? Even if you survive the blast zone, the nuclear fallout would have been enough to end all human life on earth. Nuclear weapons aren't toys. Don't treat their use as inconsequential. Nothing could be further from the truth.

        Just how big was the Hiroshima bomb? 20 megatons. How about the ones we developed during the Cold War. 200 megatons. 10X bigger. You go look at that footage and tell me how great the aftermath in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were. That is why I am calling you a fool. That is why we never used our Cold War Nuclear Weapons. Thank God we never have and I hope we never will.

        November 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
    • butterflytica

      Would you still feel the same if your mother, your best friend or your girlfriend lived in Iran? No one choose where they are born and it sad that innocent blood is shed because we have not yet realized that the Power of Love creates and the Power of Hate destroys. Sick mentality, keep up with your evil thoughts and Satan himself may visit you one day.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:46 pm | Reply
  42. Ranger 5

    I want revenge for all my buddies killed in Iraq and Afganistan by IEDs. I cant wait for us to go in and just kill all of their civilians. I enjoy head shots most of all. There is never such pleasure as watching a rag heads skull explode in a beautiful crimson mist. Thumbs up to all my patriot brothers and sisters in uniform. Lets really take it to them !

    November 8, 2011 at 12:39 am | Reply
    • Seraphim0

      You're an idiot.

      November 8, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Reply
    • fred

      Wow. Somebody lets you hold a gun?!?!?!!? Yikes !

      November 8, 2011 at 4:51 pm | Reply
    • Ben

      You should seek professional help for even Thinking that way. Is this what the military turns you into? A brainless, tool for the elite? Why not right? soldiers have only helped the New world order accomplish their goals faster. What would these leaders of countries do if their armies were to turn against them, U.S. Included?

      November 9, 2011 at 2:47 am | Reply
    • Clinton

      For anyone that hasn't noticed, this idiot posted above under the name "Private First Class" i'm almost positive it's the same moron that is making all these stupid comments about killing civilians etc. Look American soldiers don't think this way and don't act this way... Revenge does not drive our military... I was deployed in Iraq and believe me... if somebody was talking like this or acting in a way that seemed like he was going to go on a killing spree, he'd be sent to a psychologist and would NOT be allowed to carry a weapon or be deployed... I'm almost positive this is a post from someone that's never served in the Army... in fact based on his writing... i'd say this is some 13-14 year old idiot kid that spent all last night playing call of duty and has no fricken clue what war is like... especially by using the phrase "I especially enjoy headshots" ......... that's something a gamer would say... pay no attention to this kid... just a stupid kid who's parents apparently don't spend enough time supervising.

      November 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Reply
    • SDF

      The Army, not just for psychopaths anymore . . . but we are recruiting. Kill this puppy and you are in (and that is actually not a joke).

      November 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm | Reply
  43. Defcon

    Hell hath no fury like Defcon 5. We are there. You dont want to be Iranian in 72 hours !!!

    November 8, 2011 at 12:15 am | Reply
  44. patriot

    God bless the USA. I just love the men and women of oir armed services that go and fo their jobs so that we can have freedom. I am really looking forward ro victory in Iran. Our boys are going to beat these Iranians ro a pulp.

    November 8, 2011 at 12:06 am | Reply
  45. pistoya

    F()CKING A !!! Lets BOMB THE SH!T OIT OF IRAN !!!!! NUKE THESE MOTHERF()CKERS !!!! Put in the code ! Hit the "Enter" key and let her rip !!!

    November 7, 2011 at 11:50 pm | Reply
    • Rodolfo Villasenor

      Pistoya-Who is going to pay for the bombs that will destroy Iran. Our country(The U.S.) has no more money to fight wars. We are in debt. Instead of fighting Iran, why not invest that money in our homeland. When we have that money, then, we can fight Iran. The next war will be even tougher!

      November 8, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Reply
    • Ben

      You are obviously "patriot" too, what are you a message enforcement agent?

      November 9, 2011 at 2:38 am | Reply

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