Al-Shabaab – A Looming Threat
Somali soldiers fire during fierce fighting with al Shabaab forces Photo From: AFP/Getty Images
October 5th, 2011
06:00 AM ET

Al-Shabaab – A Looming Threat

By Paul Cruickshank, CNN Terrorism Analyst

The assassin was dropped off into the bitter cold by a taxi near the home of his target in Aarhus, Denmark's second largest city. His task for the night of January 1, 2010 was simple: kill Kurt Westergaard, the Danish cartoonist responsible in 2005 for a controversial depiction of the Prophet Mohammed. Armed with an ax and a knife, the would-be killer approached the front door and shattered the glass, setting off an alarm which alerted Westergaard and police to the intrusion. Westergaard grabbed his five-year-old granddaughter and rushed with her to a specially built safe room before the killer could reach them. When the police arrived minutes later the assassin lunged at them with his weapons but they managed to overpower him by firing shots into his left hand and right leg and then took him into custody.

The man they arrested - Mohamed Geele, 28, a Somali who first moved to Denmark in 1995 and who this February was convicted of the attack - was no amateur homegrown terrorist. He had already been under observation for an extended period of time by Danish security services because of his suspected close links to the Somali terrorist group Al-Shabaab. Even though the Somali group distanced itself from the attack in the hours after the attack, Danish investigators established that Geele had close ties to Al-Shabaab and senior al Qaeda leaders in east Africa, and had emerged as a hard-nosed player in the group during time he spent in Kenya in the 2000s.

The investigation indicated that what Western counter-terrorism officials had long feared had indeed become a reality. The Somali militant group – in control of more than half the war-torn east African country – had embraced al Qaeda's global Jihad and was now actively plotting attacks in the West.

Swedish authorities are investigating whether Al-Shabaab had any connection to four men arrested in Gothenburg on September 10 who were allegedly plotting to murder Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks at an art gallery in the city. Three of the suspects were Swedish residents of Somali descent and one was of Iraqi descent. According to Swedish and U.S. counter-terrorism sources, it is possible the suspects were merely inspired by Al-Shabaab propaganda.

In November 2010 Al-Shabaab explicitly threatened Vilks in a propaganda video subtitled in English and Swedish. "We will catch you wherever you are," said Abu Zaid Sweden, a Swedish-Somali member of the group who was filmed in the stands of a dilapidated sports arena with bursts of gunfire audible in the background. "In whatever hole you are hiding – know what awaits you – as it will be nothing but this: slaughter," as he simulated slitting his throat. He also urged Al-Shabaab's supporters in the West to join them in Somalia and to carry out an attack on Vilks if they could. "If you can kill this dog called Lars Vilks then you will receive a great reward from Allah," he promised them.

Western Reach

Such messages are especially concerning to Western counter-terrorism officials, because Al-Shabaab's propaganda, amongst the most sophisticated and savvy of any Jihadist group, has resonated amongst a small but significant fringe of the 1.5 million Somali diaspora community. Radicalized Somalis have been implicated in a string of terrorism cases in the United States, Canada, the UK, Australia, and across Europe.

But it is in Scandinavia that counter-terrorism officials have recently had most cause for concern. In the 1990s an open-door policy by Nordic countries led to tens of thousands of Somalis refugees from the war-torn country settling across Scandinavia, many of them in Denmark and Sweden. It has been a difficult process integrating them into mainstream society and a radical fringe has emerged in violent opposition to the West.

There is perhaps nobody who has more closely tracked Islamist militancy in the Somali community in Scandinavia than Michael Taarnby, one of Denmark's leading experts on Al-Shabaab and a Research Associate at the University of Central Florida. He has conducted extensive field research in Scandinavia and Somalia over the last decade and the trends he sees concern him profoundly.

"There is a significant radicalization problem in the Somali Diaspora community in Denmark and Sweden," Taarnby told CNN, "and intelligence services have very little understanding of what's going on-recruiting informants has been an uphill battle because Somalis don't trust them to protect them."

Taarnby says that well informed sources in the Somali diaspora community tell him that there are around 300 to 800 hardcore Shabaab sympathizers in Denmark out of a total Somali population of 18,000. "These hardliners have been harassing Somalis who do not share their view and just want to get on with their lives. There is nasty infighting going on," he told CNN.

Taarnby says that the attempted assassination of Kurt Westergaard woke up many in the Somali community to the threat of Islamist extremism. But he says their efforts have not yet turned the tide of young Somalis being indoctrinated by Al-Shabaab's propaganda videos. "Those attracted are usually quite young - there's the usual issue of a clash of cultures - of being stuck between east Africa and Scandinavia and not knowing where they belong," Taarnby told CNN.

Some young radicalized Somalis are gravitating away from mainstream Somali mosques to mosques associated with radical preachers attended by hard-line Islamists of all stripes. "There's a lot more cross-fertilization going on in radical circles," Taarnby told CNN, "and this may explain why an Iraqi was arrested along with the Somalis in Gothenburg."

Unlike al Qaeda or its affiliate in Yemen – which in recent years have only been able to recruit Western militants after they have already traveled to Jihadist fronts on their own initiative – Al-Shabaab has recruiters directly working for it in several Western countries who not only are trying to persuade young Somalis to join the group in Somalia, but are also facilitating getting them there, according to Western counter-terrorism officials.

In recent years an estimated 40 young Somalis have been recruited from the United States in this manner, many from the Minneapolis area where there is a sizable Somali community. Dozens of others have been recruited from other Western countries. Somalis living in Canada have grown so fearful of youngsters being recruited that that some have reportedly started hiding their children's passports.

"For young Somalis it is culturally difficult to refuse to meet someone with status in the community, especially if they are linked to organizations in the homeland and have combat experience. Some of these young Somalis are also adventurous and want to be Jihadist James Bonds. The recruiters lure them in by making fighting with Al-Shabaab sound like an adventure with friends with some shooting of AK-47s." Taarnby told CNN.

Militant Pipeline

An organized facilitation network transports Western recruits into Somalia, says Taarnby. Most arrive in Kenya's capital, now home to a quarter million Somalis, where Al-Shabaab has an extensive presence. There they are housed in safe houses for around a month and then transported in 4-by-4 pickup trucks northwards across the lightly patrolled border into Somalia. What happens when they arrive in Somalia, he says, is less clear.

But what is plain, he says, is the reality facing many Western recruits is very different from the message they hear in Minneapolis or Malmo. Unlike local fighters, Al-Shabaab commanders do not have to worry about alienating clan leaders if they send them off to carry out suicide bombings, says Taarnby. A significant proportion of Western recruits, he says, have taken this path. According to Taarnby, several Westerners objecting to becoming cannon fodder have later been found with bullets in their head, like a group that recently arrived from Canada.

Some of the western volunteers are valued by Al-Shabaab, according to Taarnby, because they are more educated than most Somalis and have technical skills in short supply in the country - for example in operating computers. One Western jihadist in particular - Omar Hammami, a 27 year old Syrian-American from Alabama - rose to a prominent position in the group.

Somalia experts believe that recruits from the diaspora have been crucial to the evolution of Al-Shabaab from a gun-totting militia to a political force in Somalia.

Taarnby says it's unclear what level of training Shabaab's Western recruits receive in Somalia. Most of the group's rank and file recruits receive only very rudimentary fire-arms training. Taarnby says there is no clear evidence that Western recruits are getting the sort of bomb-making training that al Qaeda has provided Western militants in the tribal areas of Pakistan.

"In some terrorist training camps, AQ-affiliated foreign fighters led the training and indoctrination of the recruits," the U.S. State Department warned in an August 2011 report on terrorist trends in Somalia in 2010. Somali experts say the group operates at least two large camps in Somalia on which there is little open source information.

Counter-terrorism officials across the West are now worried that the group may use Westerners for attacks back in their home countries. In July, Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter King stated that "Al-Shabaab now has more capability than ever to strike the U.S. homeland," adding that "as many as two dozen Muslim-Americans with Al-Shabaab - who in many cases were trained by top al Qaeda leaders - remain unaccounted for."

British authorities warned in July, "Over the past 12 months, the threat to UK interests from terrorists in Yemen and Somalia has significantly increased. People from the UK are also travelling to these countries to engage in terrorist-related activity; some are returning to the UK to plan and conduct terrorist operations."

Setbacks in Somalia

In July, after an offensive by Somali and African Union forces, Al-Shabaab started pulling fighters away from central Mogadishu and have since vacated most neighborhoods of the city. The withdrawal has been seen as turning point in the struggle against Al-Shabaab in the country. For years a fragile transitional federal government (known by its acronym TFG) and AMISOM, the African Union's peace-support forces, had been boxed into just a few city blocks of the seaside capital by Shabaab fighters. A failed offensive by Al-Shabaab earlier in the year in which hundreds of its fighters were ordered to launch suicidal frontal charges had left the group weakened.

Al-Shabaab, however, has far from given up designs on the capital. On Tuesday a truck filled with explosives barreled into a government complex in the heart of Somalia's restive capital killing dozens in an attack authorities have blamed on the militant group.

Taarnby's sources in Mogadishu tell him that Al-Shabaab are still active in two or three neighborhoods in the capital, and that they will likely regroup and return. Reports of increased in-fighting amongst factions that had united to push out Al-Shabaab have not been an encouraging sign.

And the militia still has tight control over most of central and southern Somalia, where it controls the strategically and commercially vital port of Kismaayo, from where it collects lucrative customs tolls and fees.

The famine in Somalia, which has been most acute in southern Somalia, appears however to be starting to take a toll on Al-Shabaab. There are reports of rising anger against the group in the south because of the group's refusal to let in international aid. According to Somali experts the famine has also hurt Al-Shabaab's bottom line by making it more difficult for the group to raise money within Somalia. According to U.S. authorities the group raises most of its income internally and has in recent years raised $70-100m per year from taxation and extortion, according a report released by the U.N. last July.

The 2008 designation by the U.S. of Shabaab as a terrorist group has also reduced remittances sent to the group from overseas, according to Somalia analysts. Western counter-terrorism agencies have also cracked down on financial donations by Western-based sympathizers of the group. On Monday Amina Farah Ali, a 35 year old American-Somali woman, went on trial in Minneapolis charged with trying to send the group $11,000 she had raised by soliciting money door to door and through teleconferences. She is the first of twenty individuals charged with fundraising or recruiting for Shabaab in the FBI's long-running investigation in Minnesota to go to trial.

The revenue Shabaab receives from Somali pirates has been exaggerated by some, Taarnby says. Though the group takes a cut when it can from the estimated $150m in ransoms and illicit revenue obtained by pirates each year operating off the Somali coast, there is no clear evidence the group has ever become directly involved in piracy or is directly cooperating with pirates.

There are also reports of in-fighting between Al-Shabaab commanders who disagree over the need to continue taxing southern Somalis during the famine. Historically Al-Shabaab commanders from the north have been less sensitive to the needs of locals in the south than their southern counterparts and are viewed by locals as foreigners, according to Somalia analysts.

Al-Shabaab has won few friends in territory that it controls. Unused to governing, it has resorted to brutally imposing Taliban-like restrictions on the local population, alienating many. A popular backlash against the group in the south - along the lines of the Anbar awakening in Iraq – is a real possibility, according to Somalia analysts. While there are reports that the group has opened several of its own aid camps and has been cooperating with charities from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf, the famine appears to have significantly dented its support.

According to Ken Menkhaus, an American expert on Al-Shabaab, and the author of the 2004 book "Somalia: State Collapse and the Threat of Terrorism," the militia group reached the peak of its power in 2008 and has been in decline ever since. "Their draconian interpretations have appalled Somalis," he told a conference organized by the New America Foundation in April, "Whole clans have taken the decision to distance themselves from Al-Shabaab."

Global Jihadist Ambitions

Some experts believe that setbacks for Al-Shabaab in Somalia may make the group more likely to plot attacks outside Somalia, including against the West - in frustration and in a calculated attempt to boost their recruitment and prestige. "They are more dangerous when weak and their weakness now worries me. I think it's in their interest to regionalize or globalize the conflict," Menkhaus stated.

In July 2010 the group carried out a trio of deadly bombing in Kampala, Uganda killing more than 70 - its first attack outside Somalia, in retaliation, it claimed, for Uganda's deployment of peace support forces in Somalia.

Al-Shabaab's loose structures makes it difficult for counter-terrorism agencies to decipher its global terrorist ambitions. Somalia analysts say the militia is a messy constellation of different factions with differing agendas, and no one leader is in absolute control.

"It's difficult to know how to rank Al-Shabaab as a threat. It's not clear how serious they are about attacking the West and what sort of networks they really have. There are too many unknowns and that's what really scares counter-terrorism officials in Europe," Taarnby told CNN.

At his presentation at the New America Foundation, Menkhaus identified three main strands within Al-Shabaab: those seeking to establish an Islamist state, those who saw the country as a base for global jihad, and a third group that had degenerated into feeding off the war economy and favored the status quo.

For years, the leading light of the global Jihadist faction was Fazul Abdullah Muhammad, a Kenyan al Qaeda terrorist wanted for years for his alleged role in the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam. According to Taarnby, Jihadist websites have also boasted he was the al Qaeda operative who orchestrated a failed surface-to-air missile attack on an Israeli passenger jet in Mombasa, Kenya in 2002. His death in a shootout in Mogadishu in June was a big blow to the Somali group's capabilities to carry out complex operations outside the country. "He was the gatekeeper to al Qaeda Central and was believed to have an extensive network across east Africa, including safe houses," Taarnby told CNN, "and the question is who can now replace him?"

Al Qaeda itself has struggled to establish a base of operations in Somalia. In the 1990s Osama Bin Laden's group made a concerted effort to build up operations there but found Somalia a difficult place to navigate because of its complex tribal structures and the chaotic situation on the ground, realities which have changed little since then.

Taarnby believes recent setbacks for the group may make it more cautious in plotting terrorist attacks against the West. "They need to re-organize, they need to respond to the famine, they need to respond to the fact they've been evicted from Mogadishu - they may not want to get too adventurous right now," Taarnby told CNN, "they are more likely to focus on 'do-ables' like the attack in Kampala or assisting Nigerian group Boko Haram."

Regional Expansion

This would mean the group in the short term could be focusing more on expanding its operational reach in Africa. Nigerian newspapers have reported that the suspected planner of Boko Haram's deadly suicide car bomb attack on a UN building in Abuja in August recently received training with Al-Shabaab in Somalia. According to Taarnby, Al-Shabaab bomb-making capabilities took a leap forward around 2009 after al Qaeda in Iraq operatives shared their technical expertise with the group. "The same devices being used in Iraq started turning up in Mogadishu. Around 80% of AMISOM's deaths have been from such devices," he told CNN.

Western counter-terrorism officials have recently expressed concern over cooperation between Al-Shabaab and other militant groups in Africa. In September the U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) warned that Al-Shabaab, Boko Haram, and al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM )were trying to more closely synchronize their efforts to launch attacks on U.S and Western interests, but had yet to show a significant capability to launch attacks outside their homelands.

In recent weeks Al-Shabaab has been linked to two kidnappings of Westerners in northern Kenya, indicating that elements of the group may be intensifying their efforts to target Westerners in east Africa. On Saturday ten Somali gunmen kidnapped a French woman from her home in a resort in northern Kenya early Saturday, near where a Briton was seized and her husband killed last month, according to Kenyan authorities, who blamed Al-Shabaab.

One of the most disturbing scenarios of all, according to Taarnby, is if cooperation deepens in the coming months between Al-Shabaab and al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsular (AQAP) in Yemen, just a short distance across the Arabian sea.

For some time Western counter-terrorism officials have been concerned about an emerging alliance between the two groups. Ahmed Abdulkadir Warsame, a Somali citizen captured by U.S. forces in April and interrogated aboard a U.S. navy ship for two months before being taken to New York to face terrorism charges, had been in direct contact with Anwar al Awlaki and had attempted to broker a weapons deal between the groups according to the indictment in his case. Warsame has pleaded not guilty.

There have been unconfirmed reports that hundreds of Somali fighters have taken part in recent fighting in the south of Yemen after making the short trip over the Arabian Sea and disembarking at ports under Islamist control.

According to Taarnby both AQAP and Al-Shabaab have a strong interest in deepening cooperation. "The Yemenis have all the guns you could dream of, and also funds from donors in the Gulf, but what AQAP needs if they want to establish an Islamic emirate is manpower. The Somalis have this in abundance but what they need is weapons and cash."

"If such an alliance took root, the Horn of Africa would really then be a new front in the global war on terrorism," Taarnby told CNN. In recent months the United States has stepped up its ability to launch drone attacks in Somalia and Yemen, killing senior AQAP cleric Anwar al Awlaki in a drone strike Friday.

The Threat to the West

Taarnby expects the group to carefully weigh the cost and benefit of launching terrorist plots against the West. "They know their fundraising and recruiting network in the Somali diaspora will take a blow if they launch an attack." Taarnby says that Al-Shabaab's cost-benefit calculation is illustrated by the fact it has not launched any attacks in Nairobi. "They could easily tear apart Nairobi but they've done nothing there at all because they realize this is their golden egg," he told CNN.

With regard to Scandinavia, Taarnby believes the group has decided that assassinating the cartoonists would provide a sufficient boost to the group's prestige to be worth such a backlash. "The cartoon controversy really agitated Shabaab. They go on about them much more than any other Jihadist group. They are really carrying the torch on this –it's possible Somali militants in Scandinavia channeled their anger back to the group in some way," Taarnby told CNN.

Menkhaus, the American expert on Al-Shabaab, agrees that there are constraints on Al-Shabaab when it comes to launching attacks in the West because any international law enforcement crackdown which affects powerful Somali interests and which further reduces the flow of remittances will likely see a violent reaction against the group. "In that case they won't have to worry about what we do to them but what the Somali people will do to them," Menkhaus stated, "and I think that's one of our great advantages in trying to outflank this group."


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  1. facebook fans

    Awesome things here. I'm very glad to see your post. Thanks a lot and I am looking forward to contact you. Will you kindly drop me a e-mail?

    April 4, 2012 at 9:46 am | Reply
  2. lynnI

    To think they are going to start airing the 99 (Muslim superheros comic series) on TV! America please put this to an end!

    October 6, 2011 at 12:17 pm | Reply
    • DF

      We should read "Infidel" by Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Apr 1, 2008) to see the mentality here. We in the USA are not used to tribal cults and people such as we deal with here. Our friends in the Scandinavian countries have always been peaceful as we saw in WWII, now they get attacked by helping Somalis in need, as will we due to our good nature.

      October 8, 2011 at 8:12 am | Reply
  3. Amit-Atlanta-USA

    An Uncertain Road: Muslims and the Future of Europe
    http://pewforum.org/Muslim/An-Uncertain-Road-Muslims-and-the-Future-of-Europe.aspx

    Here’s an EXCLNT article in the NYT squarely blaming RELIGION (ISLAM) for Muslim backwardness, comparing achievements of similarly qualified individuals Muslims Vs. Christians, Jews, Hindus etc.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/15/magazine/is-your-religion-your-financial-destiny.html?_r=2

    Here’s yet another article on the role of ISLAM in Arab backwardness titled “ARAB DEVELOPMENT – SELF-DOOMED TO FAILURE”
    An unsparing new report by Arab scholars explains why their region lags behind so much of the world
    http://www.economist.com/node/1213392

    Journey into Islam: The Crisis of Globalization
    http://pewforum.org/Muslim/Journey-into-Islam-The-Crisis-of-Globalization.aspx

    “Right to Education Act against Muslim interests!!!!!: AIMPLB” – INDIAN MUSLIM ORGANIZATION
    http://www.samachar.com/Right-to-Education-Act-against-Muslims-says-AIMPLB-lhgtLDgfbbf.html

    US Aid Study on “GUIDE TO THE DRIVERS OF VOILENT EXTREMISM”

    The study highlights the fact contrary to what Mr. ZAKARIA oft parrots, the Muslim motivation for violent extremism is not based on their economic backwardness, but ideology and religious backwardness (due to education rooted in their Koran as opposed to science!).

    The study has 37 references to religious ideology and Part V deals exclusively with Muslim motivations for extremism.
    http://www.usaid.gov/locations/sub-saharan_africa/publications/docs/guide_to_drivers_of_ve.pdf

    KEITH ELLISON WANTS US TO START MARSHALL PLAN FOR MUSLIM COUNTRIES TO FIGHT ISLAMIC EXTREMISM (saying that economic backwardness alone was responsible for Muslim extremism and NOT ideology – Just the way Mr. ZAKARIA does!!!)
    http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/search/label/Poverty%20Elimination

    October 6, 2011 at 9:11 am | Reply
  4. Amit-Atlanta-USA

    Dear Friend Tarik:

    You said my argument was not substantiated by facts. How many facts do you want?

    Here's a feedback I wrote sometime back which is relevant to this discussion also.Just lemme know if you want to see more.

    We have hear a lot about Muslim contributions in Europe & America.

    My former countryman Mr. FAREED ZAKARIA has been tirelessly advocating greater Muslim Immigration into America and also embracing Muslim Turkey in the European Union with the aim of greater Islamization of Europe and eventually America.

    Here’s one of his most DISHONEST articles to-date on his appeal for greater Muslim immigration into America, warning Americans that they will lose out on Muslim contributions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http:// globalpublicsquare. blogs.cnn. com/2011/06/28/america-risks-losing-its-immigration-advantage/

    Here are some facts based on the GREATEST study of American progress by RELIGIOUS groups conducted by PEW Research.

    Contrary to Mr. Zakaria’s claims that Muslims are on top in America, only 16% of Muslims (the most affluent Muslim community in the west is at the bottom of the heap) earn over $100,000 while it is 46% for Jews, 43% for Hindus, 22% of Buddhists, 18% for Christians.

    Likewise, even in terms of education while Mr. Zakaria says Muslims are doctors, lawyers, scientists etc. (which absolutely is true) they are again at the bottom with only 10% holding post-graduate degrees against 48% of Hindus, 35% of Jews, and 26% of Buddhists.
    http:// religions. pewforum. org/pdf/report-religious-landscape-study-full.pdf#page=61

    Even in the UK given even similar socio-economic background Muslim Indians are 3 times more likely to be unemployed as Hindu Indians & Whites.
    http://www. statistics. gov. uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=979

    ISLAM ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE WELFARE STATE!! (Specifically eals with Muslims in Europe).
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/05/magazine/05muslims.html

    Here's an EXCLNT ARTICLE by a well known Pakistani Muslim columnist Nadeem Paracha dealing with the Muslim habit (famously incl. Mr. Zakaria's) making lofty claims on Islam's contributions to science in Astronomy, medicine etc. The fact is Muslims have been busy repackaging other's achievements as their own while doing NOTHING about even understanding science.

    "THE (ISLAMIC) SCIENCE OF FARCE"
    http: //blog. Dawn . com/2010/11/25/the- science- of- farce/

    Here are some excerpts:

    “Impressed by the fantastical claims made by a French Christian doctor, very few Muslims were bothered by the fact that he was on the payroll of the Saudi monarchy, a regime trying to ward off the threat it had faced from various left-leaning nationalist movements in the Muslim world, and the growing influence of western secularism and Soviet communism among the Muslims.
    The idea was, that if politics could be ‘Islamised’ (Mauddudi, Qutab, Khomeini), then so could science and (later), economics (banking). Grudgingly recognizing the economic and political advances made by the Jews after World War-II through education, the Arab world, defeated by Israel in 1967 and 1973, tried to come up with their own notion of advancement.
    But as mentioned before, this advancement was NOT really about PRODUCING LARGE NUMBERS OF HIGHLY EDUCATED MUSLIMS BUT RATHER, A POPULACE FED ON EMPTY, FEEL-GOOD ‘SCIENTIFIC’ CLAPTRAP PRODUCED BY OVERPAID GROUPS OF CRACKPOTS CALLING THEMSELVES SCIENTISTS AND ECONOMISTS. And anyway, the new post-Bucaille Muslim mindset had already begun labeling the ‘secular sciences’ as ‘invented by Jews to subjugate the Muslims.’
    Bucaille enthusiasts were also not bothered (rather not aware) about the entirely unoriginal make-up of his theory. Many still believe that proving scientific truths from holy books has been the exclusive domain of Muslims.
    Pakistan’s military dictator, General Ziaul Haq, heavily influenced and financed by the Saudis, would be the man to green light a seminar of Muslim ‘scientists’ who met in Islamabad in 1986 to unveil the wonders of Islamic science where so-called learned men actually set about discussing things like how to generate energy and electricity from jinns, or how to calculate the speed of heaven, etc.
    Such was the nonsense MUSLIM GOVERNMENTS IN THE 1980’S 0S WERE ‘INVESTING’ THEIR MONEY AND EFFORTS IN WHEN A MAJORITY OF MUSLIM COUNTRIES WERE CONTINUING TO STRUGGLE TO UP THEIR LITERACY RATES.
    THIS PRACTICE SANCTIFIED MYOPIA AND AN UNSCIENTIFIC BENT OF MIND IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.

    October 6, 2011 at 8:41 am | Reply
    • KaraOK

      Excellent post Amit.

      October 6, 2011 at 11:40 am | Reply
  5. mmi16

    Religon is the root of 21st Century EVIL!

    October 6, 2011 at 3:34 am | Reply
    • InTheNameOfGod

      Fact Checker – Make that the Past 6 OR 7 Centuries!!

      October 6, 2011 at 9:23 am | Reply
    • 2011cnn2011

      drones drones drones.....all these dopes will be killed.....ban islam

      October 6, 2011 at 10:27 am | Reply
  6. gh

    The cartoonist is an idiot and the somali muslim is an idiot.

    And the intolerant 'merican posters on here are idiots.

    End of story..

    October 6, 2011 at 2:57 am | Reply
  7. MANKINDS DARKSIDE

    And heeeeerrrreeeee we go...!!!

    October 5, 2011 at 11:38 pm | Reply
  8. Badly-Bent

    Most certainly, religion is one of the tools used so that some can be prosperous at the expense of the naive.

    October 5, 2011 at 9:10 pm | Reply
  9. fucksomalia

    And there moon god!

    October 5, 2011 at 8:06 pm | Reply
  10. Freedom

    Shoot the garbage, end of discussion. Time to end the PC with failed states and failed people who would rather destroy than build. Call me a racist. I DO NOT CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    October 5, 2011 at 7:57 pm | Reply
    • brown

      Amen brother ... the silent majority believes as you do.
      We're going to pave our streets with the crushed bones of these terrorists!

      October 5, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Reply
    • Army Vet

      Lets go back in and finish the job.

      October 6, 2011 at 9:46 am | Reply
    • ARKNS

      Somalia is a failed state with a failed ideology, a failed philosophy, and a failed religion. We have no problem with what they do in their country–if they want to kill each other, so much the better. But if we see one Somali idiot anywhere up to any mischief, we will kick his butt so hard that he won't be able to sit down for the rest of his life. We have no patience with a barbaric way of life.

      October 6, 2011 at 11:24 am | Reply
      • ayala

        death to the false prophet! Torch the Quran and primitive behavior!

        October 11, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
  11. fucksomalia

    and the terrorists living there!

    October 5, 2011 at 7:47 pm | Reply
  12. jake

    IS A WORLD WITHOUT RELIGION A BETTER WORLD? Richard Dawkins said a world without religion would be a better world!
    " a world with no religion. Imagine no suicide bombers, no 9/11, no 7/7, no Crusades, no witch-hunts, no Gunpowder Plot, no Kashmir dispute, no Indo/Pakistan partition, no Israel/Palestine wars, no Serb/Croat/Muslim massacres, no Northern Ireland 'troubles'. Imagine no Taliban blowing up ancient statues, lashing women for showing an inch of skin, or publicly beheading blasphemers and apostates. Imagine no persecutions of the Jews..."

    "Religious faith is not only a major force for evil in the world. Its very foundations are undermined and denied by scientific logic. Imagine a world where nobody is afraid to follow such thoughts wherever they may lead."

    October 5, 2011 at 7:39 pm | Reply
    • Tarik

      i can see how you come to that conclusion but if humans weren't killing each other over religion it would be something else we are greedy creatures religion is the excuse leaders use to get people to get behind them and raise them to the top

      October 5, 2011 at 8:06 pm | Reply
    • Dumbeldore3000

      I think humanity will have to "Evolve" out of religion. Like an actual genetic mutation which will make us less/not superstitious (the root of religion). The change may be more gradual: The higher the IQ, level of education and socio-economic background, the less religious people are. Thus the answer is simple, but very hard to implement: Educate people. Education is the remedy. And for the dumba– brainwashed terrorists, the remedy is: Drone strikes.

      October 5, 2011 at 8:07 pm | Reply
      • Tarik

        i agree with you for the most part except many scientist today are still religious religion will be around until we answer all of the mysteries of the universe because it is a way of explaining what you don't know and i don see that happening any time soon

        October 5, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
    • fucksomalia

      And their moon god what's its name!

      October 5, 2011 at 8:31 pm | Reply
    • lynnI

      It's not religion that causes these things, it's the people that was really crazy using religion as an excuse. Jews? What is a Jewish person without
      religion?

      October 6, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Reply
    • poster boy

      right on! Religion is a joke!

      October 11, 2011 at 6:06 pm | Reply
  13. Bob

    n!ggers

    October 5, 2011 at 7:30 pm | Reply
  14. ffff

    FUCK ISLAM and Muhammad...

    October 5, 2011 at 7:12 pm | Reply
    • fucksomalia

      ..

      October 5, 2011 at 8:48 pm | Reply
    • Fuck ffff

      Fuck u to bitch and die slow..........

      October 5, 2011 at 9:37 pm | Reply
    • atta boy

      kill the false prophet and followers!

      October 11, 2011 at 6:07 pm | Reply
  15. LOLMUSLIM

    It's a good thing muslims are half retarded otherwise an unarmed man and his grand daughter might have been in serious danger, im suprised this genius didn't cut himself on broken glass and bleed to death. The Prophet and his followers are a joke I wipe my ass with pages from the quran every morning.

    October 5, 2011 at 7:02 pm | Reply
    • T. Lee

      If "Muslims are half retarded" – how did they firgure out how to pull off 9/11 ??

      The worst mistake anyone can do – is to UNDERESTIMATE an enemy – which in this case – would play nicely into their currentl, short term, and long term plans.

      October 5, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Reply
      • LOLMUSLIM

        Yeah, then they decided to have a guy cook his own balls with an underwear bomb lol. I guess the only clever muslims died flying those planes. The only thing muslims are good at is beating women and screaming jibberish while waving objects around over their heads.

        October 5, 2011 at 7:19 pm |
    • ffff

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....F-Muhammad and Islam.

      October 5, 2011 at 7:08 pm | Reply
    • Freedom

      Half retarded, you are being generous. If they want to live in caves and wear one person tents, let them, just keep them the out of the rest of the world FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF thm ALLLLLLLLLLLL

      October 5, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Reply
    • mulla man

      Quran as ass wipes for all!

      October 11, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Reply
  16. T. Lee

    Time to re-program some of the drones with the Hellfires onboard.

    This just goes to show how much of a smokescreen to cover Muslim extremism all the b.s. about "the Palestinians" and "US agression" and "Iraq occupiers", etc., etc., etc., these murdering, butchering b*stards use to cover their __REAL__ agenda all over the world – turn the world into a 7th Century-style Caliphate under Sharia Law – and behead any who don't "submit" or "convert fo Islam".

    October 5, 2011 at 6:58 pm | Reply
  17. fucksomali

    they only understand one thing..."Drone the fuckers"

    October 5, 2011 at 6:54 pm | Reply
  18. kiwilogic

    the number one problem with the war on terror is the west have rules of engagement and other moral codes they abide by and are heavily criticised if they stray from the pc way. the terroist have no rules and want to inflict as much carnage and death as they can. If we in the west stopped being so pc about everything we would just bomb their camps into oblivion assainate anyone invovled with a terror group or associated with one and send a strong message of no mercy in other words its time to fight by the terrorists rules and make it an even playing field because words are not going to win this war. i mean killing someone for making a cartoon depicting some paedophile in s aparently insulting way is just pathetic, islam the religion of cowards

    October 5, 2011 at 6:44 pm | Reply
  19. Herensugue

    That's what you get for giving them asylum in Europe. You give them shelter, pay their food and as a thank they blow up your buildings and try to kill you with an axe.
    I'd seriously shut Europe to those people and let them outside eating sand.

    October 5, 2011 at 6:01 pm | Reply
    • ffuk me

      I say we behead a few of the prophet followers here as a start

      October 11, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Reply
  20. James

    Cannot believe this day & age Gov't's fear some monkey bar, towels on their heads radicals. The U.N. needs to pay some mercenaries & deal with them already & be done with it !

    October 5, 2011 at 5:44 pm | Reply
  21. Amit-Atlanta-USA

    PAKISTAN RUNNING AL-SHABAAB – Check this out!

    October 5, 2011 at 5:22 pm | Reply
    • Amit-Atlanta-USA

      PAKISTANI CONNECTION TO AL-SHABAAB – Why Pakistanis have been detained for Al Shabab's Uganda bombings

      http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2010/0719/Why-Pakistanis-have-been-detained-for-Al-Shabab-s-Uganda-bombings

      Al-Shabaab: A Jihadist Threat to America – from PAKISTAN through its veritable arms Al-Qaeda, Al-Shabaab

      http://www.investigativeproject.org/3170/al-shabaab-a-jihadist-threat-to-america

      October 5, 2011 at 5:31 pm | Reply
      • Osman

        We expect more worst from Indians, who have killed multi-thousands Human in Racist Genocides in their country. ANd putting everything on Pakistan.
        Masters of disguise .
        Law of Nature:: When u cannot do , you sit, think and play deceptions. When u can Do you dont think or talk much.

        October 6, 2011 at 2:37 am |
    • Andrew

      FUCK THE MIDDLE EAST!!!!We worry to much about them.Our country needs to stop but protect what is right!!!!!!!!!!!We have better weapons than AKJ-47's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      October 6, 2011 at 7:44 am | Reply
  22. EatYouAlive

    Who cares, in the big picture these people are nothing but animals and will eat each other.

    October 5, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Reply
  23. Jason

    We need to be more actively targetting Al-Shabaab in Somalia. Any money we don't spend on military intervention will just be food aid money and hostage ransoms sent there anyways. The only difference is that the former won't involve a murderous Islamist paramilitary group continuing to destabilize the region for decades on end.

    October 5, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Reply
    • Tex Gritter

      Did anyone else catch the part about the victim fleeing to his "safe-room"? He grabbed the youngin's (or at least what of the youngsters he had time to grab and "fled" to his ready-built safe-room. Here in Missouri, we don't need "safe-rooms". We have GUNS. I don't think we have to worry too much about that happening here--Or in Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Mississippi, Texas or even in Indianna for that matter. Thank God for freedom......

      October 5, 2011 at 5:37 pm | Reply
      • Tarik

        intruders in america are more likely to have guns resulting in a potential shoot out of sorts and not all homes have guns.

        October 5, 2011 at 8:09 pm |
      • John

        Dear Matt,Thank you so much for you are effort to bring soaimalns all in one table again. we us a soaimalns we know the reality and what is the fundamental problem of somalia. the button problem of the somalia is two major one. the main one is political problem , and that means the country somlia needs the stable government with a matual respect, the second problem is tribale problem. if i make you a better vision of the problem solution , in my idea will be these:Number one we have to know and realise that all soaimalns are people or one nation. They have the some cultures, the some religions, and the some language and the some country. somilas they have long historical relations that means they are inter-married each others are deep in realtives even in tribes are open in marriege without discriminating. the most problem of somalia is political problem, becouse in the mohamed siad barre the former ruler of somalia (1969-1991)was a dictator one and he mis used the powereof the country that is why the somali political is not yet stable. but for sure all soaimalns where ever they are in the world they like each other and they sees as a one family. in my best solution is that somalia musta have a federal state government like an ethopia or united states or other deomratic federal states. that each main region should have its adminstration wich come under the central government. Somali Main Regions and tehir problems: we can devide in to two main one. The south and the north of somaliaThe Northern regionof somalia ( Somaliland).The Somaliland population contains: 35% Isaaq Tribe, 30% Gadubursi Tribe, 25% Dul-bahante and 10% Warsangeli So, This is the fact of the somaliland tribe sturucture since Registrated June 2010. A) The Isaaq clan: want Break away from somali federal governmentB) Th Gadabursi clan: Dont want break away from the somalia and they stabilished their own regional state (Awdal state ) this regional state is Link with the somali federal government. This awdal state is opposite the isaaq clan policy of breaking away from somalia.C) The Dulbahante +Warsangeli these bothe are the some family root clan of (Daarod) they are olso very close tribe relation with puntland state of region. so these two tribes never eccepted to break away from somalia and they are absulutely apposite the isaaq policy. they stabilished recently the new regional state (Katuma State of Region) wich links olso the somali federal government.So mr Matt you can understand that 75% of the somaliland population want the federal somali government and unity. and if this doesn't happend they will keep in tribal fighting based ofr policy. and the northern region of somalia may never come in peace and stability. becouse the majority dont want break away of somalia. but the somaliland adminstration is using force and that is why the northern somalia is not an stable region.in northern of somalia there are now three regional state ( Somaliland for isaaq , awadal sate for gadubuursi and katuma state for dulbahante+warsangeli).in central somalia:A) Puntland:This is regional sate link with somali federal government.B) Galmudug state:This is Regional sate Link with somali federal governmentso i blieve if all soaimalns are one and they need eachother, but only the isaaq clan from the northern of somalia want to talk. maybe they need some mony to give them , or to become a primeinster position or to have an important cabinet minsters in federal government. so 93% of all somali clans and populations want the somali fedral states.this is really the fact of somalia. we all soaimalns and need to each other and we are all in one family. i am also from the Northern of somalia and i want federal somali state .thank you yoonis

        October 12, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
  24. Frederik

    Westergaard did not bring his grandchild to the saferoom, whereas she was left with the assasin. Westergaard was critizised in the danish press afterwards.

    October 5, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Reply
  25. None

    Oh please! Now Africa is a threat!

    October 5, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Reply
  26. Dave McPartland

    Lets move them to America, give them a convienient store/gas station and omit them for paying taxes for 7 years like we have done for other Islamists to change their thinking of western ways. Money profits take their minds off their prophet and make them more civilized. Jihad? what jihad when your raking in 70 -100K a year tax free and living the good life. America is great for immigrants, just not for the Americans.

    October 5, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Reply
    • Tex Gritter

      Too many folks with funny names that dont look like us......

      October 5, 2011 at 5:38 pm | Reply
  27. marcm057

    Nice! the people that build Drones need to keep there jobs in this bad economic times!! we totally hope millions of these vermin's pop out their mud huts :) keep on coming!

    October 5, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Reply
  28. Don't be a hypocrite

    Didn't the Europeans also conduct a Jihad in Africa and Latin America killing millions of people, stealing their land and enslaving the rest. I hope you got the 72 virgins you were promised.

    October 5, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Reply
    • James

      actually no, it was called a Crusade. even though they have the same meaning..at least you can get the venacular correct. and you must be retarded because nowhere in any christian/catholic scripture does it say we get 72 virgins for killing a bunch of innocent people. and i'm not really sure how you can compare today's society with one that was over 500 years ago. the rest of the world evolved and grew up where the jihadists of today are still stuck in the middle ages.

      October 5, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Reply
  29. @AMIT in atlanta originally from INDIA

    Amit here you go again. Always against Fareed. Did he get the job you as an amateur wanna be journalist always wanted. tsk tsk. Keep sulking

    October 5, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Reply
  30. ketsui

    Terrorists need to get a life and a real job. Acting tough is a 5th grade bully mentality

    October 5, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Reply
    • Tarik

      Your a fucking idiot terrorist cant just walk down to the welfare office and collect a fucking check in areas where militias and terrorist groups are able to get a foothold there is always widespread poverty ad unemployment. im not justifying there actions but dont be a dipshit.

      October 5, 2011 at 4:11 pm | Reply
      • poopsy

        These people could do something else with their lives... What are you??? Stupid??? Here, I'll help you out... yes you are!!

        October 5, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
      • tony

        you go and lick Kaffers ASS . Remember hater of Islam never be your friends they Dogs always going to hate Islam and muslims.

        October 5, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
      • EatYouAlive

        "Dogs always going to hate Islam and muslims."

        Most civilized people are learning to as well thanks to people like you.

        October 5, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
      • Tex Gritter

        Mr. Tarik, you sure as heck did your share of "F-ing" during your comment. Hope you realise how it negates the rest of your comment when you do that. CNN moderators, were are you? Shame when my kids can't read the "news" because of filthy lingo that shouldn't even have wormed it's way into this Country's vocabulary to begin with.

        October 5, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
      • fucksomalia

        And their moon god!

        October 5, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
  31. bailoutsos

    America needs to get in their and supply both sides with weapons. America needs to keep the war machine going for jobs.

    October 5, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Reply
    • bailoutsos

      there**

      October 5, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Reply
  32. tom

    LMAO, I DIDN'T READ THE TITLE CORRECTLY. I THOUGHT IT SAID, "AL SHARPTON – A LOOMING THREAT". MAYBE THAT'LL BE THE STORY FOR TOMORROW

    October 5, 2011 at 3:04 pm | Reply
    • Tex Gritter

      Preach it, Brother! I don't think that you are really all that far off with that comment. "Revraaaauuund" Al Sharpton helped to instigate a riot in New York that left several Orientals and some Jewish folk badly beaten. Oh, and one elderly Korean lady even died as a result of actions taken that can be laid sqaurely on the shoulders of one big-mouthed man who is no more of a "Reverand" than my Uncle's 'coon-hound.

      October 5, 2011 at 5:52 pm | Reply
  33. CNN 'journalists' = Sensationalists

    By Paul Nutsack, CNN Terrorism Analyst

    Spreading al-quesadilla and al-shishkabob's propaganda of fear message again, Paul. You must be raking in righteous sales and marketing revenue for CNN from these 'bacha bazi' homo-pedos.

    By Paul Nutsack, CNN Terrorism Propagandist

    October 5, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Reply
  34. Islam will prevail

    Judge islam on islam and not what corrupt muslims do. And for that person who cursed the prophet i supplicate to the creator of the universe to destroy you 'Ameen'

    October 5, 2011 at 2:27 pm | Reply
    • james

      darn, i'm still here. looks like your 'precious prophet' is having dinner in hell with hitler. oh and those 72 virgins that you people are promised when you die as a martyr...they never said that they have to be female or human for that matter. so you might want to think twice about being a martyr...spread the word

      October 5, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Reply
      • tony

        Insha allah you will burn in hell filthy people like you laways hate Islam.

        October 5, 2011 at 4:37 pm |
      • tony

        Allahu akber the lord is great . with out islam you are wrost then Animal.even Dogs are better then you criminals You never thanks to almighty.

        October 5, 2011 at 4:41 pm |
      • Tarik

        stop it no ones gonna "burn in hell" freedom of speech you can both say what ever yo want but keep the death treats out of it people will always label you as a extremist Muslim if you say shit like that fight ignorance with fact not violence

        October 5, 2011 at 4:45 pm |
    • Really???

      I think that you just gave everyone a sterling example of your Islamic religion. You called for the destruction of someone for saying something you did not like about your bloodthirsty prophet. Are you going to call for my destruction next? Because I can say quite honestly that I feel Islam's prophet was a pedophile, for marrying a 6 year old & then knowing her as a wife at age 9.

      October 5, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Reply
      • CraigNL

        What can you expect from a Muslim that has all of his teachings from a book that start with: Listen to what I have to say or I will send you death and destruction?

        October 5, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
      • Wait...

        if your not aware of the traditional contexts of which Islam was founded upon and if you fail to keep an open mind as to the nature of Islamic law then you'll always be blinded by your hatred and misunderstandings of a religion that nearly a quarter of the world follows. I agree, its no ones right to damn destruction upon another. But as a Muslim I urge people to look past the craziness of what few Muslims do and open your mind to what most Muslims have to say, the Muslims that condemn 9/11, the Muslims that call for peace with their neighbors, the Muslims that are eager to offer a clearer perspective on Islam unlike that which has consumed the West in the past decade. Look at the right resources, talk to the right people and be open. You can't dismiss and deprecate the beliefs of 1.6 billion people in the world....how close minded can you be??

        October 5, 2011 at 4:46 pm |
      • tony

        YOU son of a bitch insult my beloved prophet and you want me to keep quite? you will burn in hell pig with the terrorist.

        October 5, 2011 at 5:01 pm |
    • tony

      salaam brother some animal criminal just love to hate Islam do not worry evil ignorant always against the truth.

      October 5, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Reply
    • tony

      100% agree look today 25% people in the world are Muslim. where they come from 1400 years when greatest of all Prohet mighty Muhammad start same faith Islam followed by Noha,Ibrahim,Ishaq,Ishamael,Yakub,Yusuf,David,Solomon and Miracle baby called Jesus Allah bless them all. take your time and read and understand the Quran. or Burn in hell once you leave this world. Good luck.

      October 5, 2011 at 4:56 pm | Reply
      • Karldehammer

        the mubblings of a half dellusional dehidrated pedophyle, yep thats what i want to follow, lead on oh master of a thousand fleas

        October 5, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
    • Karldehammer

      Any religion where it has main prophet liking little boys, just got to say no......so you stick to your little boy religion and ill stick to my GOD who died on a stick

      October 5, 2011 at 5:49 pm | Reply
    • kiwilogic

      I tried judging islam on islam i was taken to a mosque told about the ways of islam told by a women who converted from christianity to islam why she did it and was then given a koran to read, after pondering in what i was told and trying to read the koran and stopping myself from throwing up after the feeling sick from the stupidity of the whole thing, i gave up filling my mind with the drivel i was reading and decided that if some stupid illogical person read this book they might be dumb enough to believe it, so i burnt the koran in protest. you say 1.6 billion people call themselves muslims? well the beatles have more fans than that so i guess music is the one true religion and if allah wants to smite me i say bring it on bitch

      October 5, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Reply
      • umm...

        "devoting" yourself to the beatles is quite different than devoting yourself to a religious doctrine and way of life...poorly constructed analogy
        but thats besides the point, i applaud that you went above and beyond what most Americans do in understanding Islam outside the media and its strong political slant...while you obviously were not convinced of Islam it doesn't mean it deserves the disrespect you give it. if Americans are to thrive in our pluralistic society than we must learn to accept each other's differences, not hate or love the differences, but just accept

        October 6, 2011 at 1:15 am |
      • ARKNS

        Mullahs have the worst logic. Islam is not a religion–it is a cult based on intolerance and hate, not love and respect for other people, for diversity. because they hate, hate is visited upon them. Today, all the mullah countries are torn apart by violence. "As you sow, so shall you reap". So is it written, so shall it be done.

        October 6, 2011 at 11:37 am |
  35. bosanac

    nije problem u religiji već u umno poremećenim mozgovima, koji koriste religiju kao ideologiju

    October 5, 2011 at 2:13 pm | Reply
  36. dudley0418

    Same toilet, different day.

    October 5, 2011 at 2:05 pm | Reply
  37. SoldierofFortunes

    Where is the Shaka Zulu Tribes here? Static X – Push It...start sharpening those deadly arrows...Deadlist in the World..
    It's a show about combat tactics and Africa is still Numero Uno bubbas...so go take care of business...Zulu style...lol...

    October 5, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Reply
  38. Amit-Atlanta-USA

    Europe is paying a huge price by due to these UNADAPTABLE MUSLIM immigrants who are GATECRASHING both legally & illegally.

    Just consider the cost:
    a) WELFARE COSTS for them & their MULTIPLE wives and many children.
    b) SOCIAL COSTS due to their inadaptable nature
    c) SECURITY COST spent in monitoring potential terrorists lurking in these communities
    d) GHETTOIZATION of otherwise pretty European cities
    e) MATERIAL COSTS due to largescale destruction of public property in riots as it happened in France, UK, Greece, Italy, Sweden, Netherlands & several other European countries.

    Persistent efforts at covert Islamization of Europe and in turn America is being increasingly orchestrated by the likes of CNN's own FAREED ZAKARIA and others who are calling for embracing Muslim Turkey into the EU, greater aid to Muslim nations in the garb of building bridges between the West & the Muslim world, and increasing scientific contacts in the garb of inclusiveness opening our hi-Tech establishments (such as NASA) to scientific espionage & also terror threats.

    Add this potent mixture to the financial crisis going on, and no wonder we see European and American economies heading increasingly south, and more dangerously destroying the demographic & social fabric of these nations making a recovery nearly impossible even in the long run!

    Amit-Atlanta-USA

    October 5, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Reply
    • Tarik

      you did not use a single fact in that whole fucking statement maybe if you got some facts you might no sound like such a racist fuckwhole :)

      October 5, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Reply
      • Tex Gritter

        CNN, where is your moderator? The "F" word has no place here.

        October 5, 2011 at 5:58 pm |
      • samsan

        Just look at the books "america alone" and "while europe slept" and you'll have all the proof you want. Those are facts that can't be denied.

        October 5, 2011 at 9:17 pm |
    • tony

      hey Amit asshole go and lick shivas dick,drink cows piss, or amke happy your monkey God. you olny hate Muslims son of pig. get over it Islam going to rule you like or not.

      October 5, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Reply
      • Tex Gritter

        CNN, where is your moderator? No need for some of these filthy words that are being used here on these pages. It's time for you to do something. I don't mean "do something" like make it impossible for me to get on here, either.

        October 5, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
      • Jonathan

        Tony…you must be one of the clever Muslims; you can almost put together a sentence. Congratulations, between learning about the rewards of blindly embracing the love of a paedophile, someone must have taught you about the power of the English language… Now off you go, Allah is calling for you to strap on one of those special vests that you wear so well and await your unification with 50 odd virgins. (Little known you that God probably has his own twist to add to this tail… they are all suffering from PMS!) Have a blast Tony!

        October 5, 2011 at 6:22 pm |
      • Tarik

        tony though you may think other wise you are acting no better than the people who are slamming Islam by slamming their religion and to Jonathan though i hope your exaggeration your views to make a point you are sounding very much like a white supremacist right know

        October 5, 2011 at 8:36 pm |
  39. Jerry

    If Somali's living in Western countries refuse to cooperate with authorities then they should be reminded that if some members of that diaspora commit serious acts of terrorism then public backlash will most certainly punish them even if they are innocent. Call it a thinly veiled threat.

    October 5, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Reply
  40. Sal

    The problem with these muslims is that their allegiance is to that damn religion of theirs and not to their host countries! 

    October 5, 2011 at 1:16 pm | Reply
  41. Sal

    I like that one James...........

    October 5, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Reply
  42. james

    why is it we paint pictures of all of the other religious figures and no one cares? we have jesus walking on water or on the cross, we have moses separating the sea, what's wrong with drawing a picture of mohammed taking a camel's dick up the a$$?

    October 5, 2011 at 12:59 pm | Reply
    • james

      oh, and in the picture of him taking the camel dick in the a$$, there would be a caption...he'd be saying "Allah Akbar!"

      October 5, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Reply
      • david

        I'd title that picture "Mohammed riding a camel in the desert"

        October 5, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
      • uncalled for...

        people like you will make it impossible to see past each others differences and make our world more divided and full of hate....you have just disrespected the religion of nearly a quarter of the world, don't think in the confines of your little bubble and open your mind to what the world is really like....do you think your crude disrespect is going to make 1.6 billion Muslims vanish?! They will always be here (and their numbers are growing). Learn to live with it and accept it...

        October 5, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
    • tony

      james mother fucker you mother must be bonk by muslim thats why you hate muslims....hahahah go and fuck your self

      October 5, 2011 at 5:14 pm | Reply
      • Karldehammer

        i know what would make 1.6 billion muslims vanish, about a temperature increase of 0 to 2500 degrees farenheit, yep nice little amusement park called the plane of glass...wonderful to visit in the winter, keeps you warm.

        October 5, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
    • Karldehammer

      i must say if you got a website i would buy one and put it im my house, praise Allah.....

      October 5, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Reply
  43. Sal

    I am going to go on jihad against muslims! 

    October 5, 2011 at 12:57 pm | Reply
    • tony

      where tell me where i can meet you? i love to see what you do to muslim coward dog.

      October 5, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Reply
  44. Aaron L.

    stupid africans, all they can do is kill artists because they're cowards with sticks and stones and whatever the russians give them

    October 5, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Reply
    • And...

      you're dumb. i can't believe the most advanced country in the world has given birth to people like you.

      October 5, 2011 at 5:00 pm | Reply
  45. aboriginal

    I have an idea, deport all the muslims and ban muslim immigration in the west, there problem solved.

    October 5, 2011 at 11:32 am | Reply
    • Zhang from China

      you bet! kick them out...there are a lot of cows in US as well imported by Stupid US government feeding and giving everything that really american deserve..!!! their aim is to covert the whole world into Islam whatever they say they are in peace or not. i don't really care. but I am sure this what they are trying achieve every day...North American and EUpean Govs should know that right. it is even too late by now. Change the Rules. otherwise our generation will be varnished day by day. let me please stop here..but i still have a tons of it to talk about. be my day better in peace!

      October 5, 2011 at 1:13 pm | Reply
      • Fred

        Well said Zhang, let's get rid of these bastards praying to a pedophlie socalled prophet....

        October 5, 2011 at 3:51 pm |
      • Tarik

        you fucking commy bastard why are there so many people who would stereotype the whole group out of the 4,000,000 muslims in america only 40 ish were stupid enough to join al shabaab so that makes that makes .001 percent of the muslin-american population join these terrorist groups while the rest are just trying to live there lives in peace

        October 5, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
      • How can they convert....

        the whole world against their will....you think people will just submit to Islam if they talk to a Muslim....stop being so narrow-minded, your conspiracy theories will drive you insane while the rest of the world lives on
        devote your energy to something more productive than hate, otherwise youll be living a meaningless life :-/

        October 5, 2011 at 4:58 pm |
      • Jonathan

        Understand what you are saying Tarik – that it’s the very small percentage of these Muslims are causing all of the problems. By that same token however, the vast majority of Muslims are not doing enough to condemn this type of behaviour. You can be sure as hell that the majority of Christians would be jumping up and down condemning the actions of the small proportion of these (so called) ‘Christian’-cults. Where’s the choir of condemnation by the Muslim masses..? I haven’t heard anything!

        October 5, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
      • Tarik

        after 9/11 lots of Muslim countries had huge numbers of people go out and express their sympathies. and also the majority of Muslims live in war torn countries were expressing themselves is not a priority and sure lots of Christians and Jews and other religious groups condemn the actions of terrorist groups what do they do about it nothing they still buy oil from Saudi Arabia which is know to fund terrorist organizations and i know that when i visit the my family in Morocco they all hate the Al-Qaeda and in Morocco there has been a huge crackdown on "Beards" or Muslim extremists.

        October 5, 2011 at 8:19 pm |
      • Tarik

        @HOw can they convert they cant i dont think anyone is going to submit to islam. i think that people should be given freedom of religion and you say stop devoting life to hate while you are on here spreading hate against islam.

        October 5, 2011 at 8:28 pm |
      • How can they convert...

        @Tarik, I was referring to the comment made by Zhang from China...I'm not here to spread hate but the opposite, majority of the people on this blog are horribly ignorant....it scares me to see how blinded by hate people can really be...love everyone-even your enemy

        October 6, 2011 at 1:06 am |
    • tony

      why not you fuck your self hater...hahhah look around one more mosque bilut near you...stupid idiot

      October 5, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Reply
      • Karldehammer

        going to be a bad day if you little ass clowns do anything again, your peaceful crap will be thrown out, and death to the muslims will be the slogan, watch yourself, we only take so much from your cactus farmers and beatle eaters

        October 5, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
  46. fedup

    Western governments should deport the WHOLE family when one the the kids has been found guilty of a terrorist act. This would keep them careful of their children and the children would be concerned for their families too. At least the families would advise the authorities if their kids were treading the wrong path.

    October 5, 2011 at 10:57 am | Reply
    • Tarik

      no they shouldn't because that in itself is terrorism which is exactly what our troops are dyeing to prevent overseas

      October 5, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Reply
    • Andrew

      i agree

      October 6, 2011 at 7:45 am | Reply
      • Daniel (india)

        Andrew,
        These guys talks so sweet and about equality and rspect for other religion when they are a small minority.
        And they become radical extrmist when their population increases.
        They already have made misery of india.
        God bless/save America and Europe from these sananic son's like tarik and tony.

        October 6, 2011 at 9:27 am |
  47. George

    It is rumored that their true leader, Salami al-Baloney, is a gentle man, who when he isn't cooking up schemes to kill innocent people, loves to bake snickerdoodles.

    October 5, 2011 at 10:48 am | Reply
    • Koler

      Hi Matt thanks for prvoiding us an opportunity to air our opinion relating the scheduled Somali conference in London on 23rd February 2012. Basing my views the two themes that you suggested namely, AMISOM and Justice and Security in Somalia.AMISOMIn my opinion Amisom forces in Mogadishu have done a great job to safe guard the government of Somalia and the key important positions such as the Adan Ade Airport and the port of Mogadishu and the presidential place (Villa Somalia). It will have been impossible for Somali's and international community to talk about peace and security in Somalia, particularly Mogdishu without the support of AMISOM Forces. Therefore, I will believe the majority of ordinary people who love peace and respect will be great full for the work of AMISOM and it will be remembered after the people nation recovers from the war trauma. Somali's have failed to run their country peacefully and respect their neighbours who have extended a helping hand during the civil war from 1991 up to present. the international community have given us a chance to reconcile among us in more than 14 international hosted conferences, but the Somali people have always failed to address the really issues and divide among their selves clans and sub clans and start fighting among each another without respecting their vulnerable citizens.Justice and SecurityIn relation to justice and security, I believe Somali people and its nation deserves to receive capacity building support from the international communities and the stake holders of the 23rd February 2012 conference lead by the British government. I believe the Somali people are lacking educated and skilled work force that can run the country without relying on clan affiliation but solely rely on their education and the rule of governance and I will suggest that the following elements should be considered in the conference in order to achieve peace and stability for a future Somalia:•To train national skilled police force with criteria of age and their education•To build fair and free judiciary system which regulated by the culture and tradition of the people•To build prisons and train prison soldiers who know their role and responsibility•To train Somali national army and marines with the appropriate and necessary equipments to overtake the role of AMISOM once peace and stability is restored•To develop criteria to whom can hold key positions of future Somali Government such as president, minister, police commission and chief of the army by looking their education, age and experience to work with the Somali people and the international community•To allow civilians and citizens to return to their rightful properties in Mogadishu and elsewhere in the country without fear of clan domination

      October 13, 2012 at 12:39 am | Reply
  48. Hashim

    For more info on this read novel – king of Bat'ha

    October 5, 2011 at 10:47 am | Reply

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