US targeting Haqqani network in Pakistan
Weapons seized from a Haqqani network camp in Afghanistan (ISAF photo)
September 21st, 2011
03:58 PM ET

US targeting Haqqani network in Pakistan

By Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr

The Central Intelligence Agency and the U.S. military have stepped up unilateral strikes against the Haqqani network over the past year, a senior U.S. official has confirmed to CNN.

The news follows public comments by top U.S. officials this week voicing frustration with Pakistan's lack of action against the terror network.

The senior official said the CIA and the U.S. military agreed last year to increase targeting of the Haqqani terrorist network inside Pakistan after Haqqani-backed insurgents stepped up their attacks across the border inside Afghanistan against U.S. troops and Afghan targets.

The Pentagon asked the CIA to step in last year and as a result, at one point in 2010, 20% of armed CIA drone attacks in Pakistan were aimed at Haqqani targets, the official said.

"A deliberate decision was made to start ramping up targeting the Haqqanis in 2010," he said. CIA drone attacks are specifically aimed at al Qaeda and their "militant allies," which has long allowed for groups like the Haqqanis and the Pakistani Taliban to be targeted.

The official declined to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the information. He pointed out that the drone operations amount to unilateral U.S. action against the Haqqanis inside Pakistan, even as U.S. military forces have increasingly targeted Haqqanis inside Afghanistan.

But how successful either operations have been remains a question in light of the Haqqanis' continuing ability to stage high-profile attacks.

On Tuesday, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta stepped up the effort to get the Pakistani government to crack down on Haqqani network, saying, "Our biggest concern right now is to put as much pressure as possible on the Pakistanis to exercise control from their side of the border. We've continued to state that this cannot happen. We cannot have the Haqqanis coming across the border attacking our forces, attacking (Afghans), and then disappearing back into a safe haven. That is not tolerable and we have urged them to take steps."

Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also stepped up the pressure in recent days. In a meeting with his Pakistani counterpart this past weekend, he told Gen. Ashfaq Kayani that the Islamabad government should stop sheltering the Haqqanis. Mullen and others have said the United States believes elements of the Pakistani intelligence service are supporting Haqqani attacks.

Mullen was equally blunt on Tuesday when he publicly called on Pakistan to do more to rein in the Haqqani network.

"The Haqqani piece of this has got to be reversed, period," he said in a speech in Washington. He added that the ISI, the Pakistan intelligence service, has to stop what he called its long practice of funding extremist groups.

"The ISI has been doing this, supporting proxies, for an extended period of time. It is a strategy in the country and I think that strategic approach has to shift in the future," Mullen said.

The official said Panetta is not signaling that U.S. troops will move against the Haqqanis inside Pakistan. "No decision has been made on that, but all options are on the table always," he said.

CIA Director David Petraeus met with his Pakistani counterpart, Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, on Tuesday in Washington and, among other things, discussed the Haqqani network.

The United States has been trying to mend the relationship with Pakistan that fell apart after the U.S. conducted a raid inside the country that killed Osama bin Laden without informing the Pakistani government. A few months earlier an American intelligence contractor was jailed for shooting two Pakistanis. That incident led to the United States removing military trainers and intelligence officials, at the request of the Pakistanis.

The senior U.S. official said the United States and Pakistan have reached an agreement allowing a small number of U.S. troops back into Pakistan.

After the raid killing bin Laden, much of that effort had been halted. But now up to 150 U.S. forces will be allowed into Pakistan at any one time to work on various military support and training operations.

That is about half the contingent allowed under previous agreements. But only 10 special forces troops at a time will be allowed into Pakistan to conduct what the United States sees as high-priority training with the Pakistan Frontier Corps units.

The official said the Pakistan's clearly see any U.S. military troops in the border region as highly "sensitive"

Pam Benson and Charley Keyes contributed to this report.

soundoff (639 Responses)
  1. Ahmed

    Great ISI, PAk Army Zindabad

    September 26, 2011 at 1:47 am | Reply
  2. Ahmed

    Real terrorist America

    September 26, 2011 at 1:46 am | Reply
  3. Ahmed

    Great Pakistan Army, Pakistan forces ready

    September 26, 2011 at 1:40 am | Reply
  4. Frangible

    It's really kind of depressing to think we've been spending the last 10+ years mostly fighting a proxy war against another nuclear-armed nation.

    September 26, 2011 at 12:50 am | Reply
  5. 2011cnn2011

    keep looking over your shoulder bin ladens

    September 25, 2011 at 8:12 pm | Reply
  6. Hasai

    I'm beginning to suspect all this will continue, until ISI officials are added to the 'hit' list.

    September 25, 2011 at 8:06 pm | Reply
  7. iqbal

    To all my brothers sisters and friends,please do not offend any body by using the dirty words.By doing this we are not serving the noble cause for peace but rather adding fuel to the fire.You can only extinguish fire with the water not with the fire.we living in a free world does not mean that we are free to break any bodies heart .we may have the differences of opinions with any body but please be nice respectful and reasonable in selection of words.May Allah the Almighty bless us all with wisdom and far sightedness and May peace prevail on earth Amin.

    September 25, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Reply
    • rickirs

      Very inspirational...but you don't have to belong to any religion to be courteous and polite to get a point across. Praise be to whomever you want God to be.

      September 25, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Reply
      • Hassan

        rickirs at least he has courage to be a polite speaker but you mouth is tellin he is very right and u r right people like u r rotten eggs in any religion

        September 25, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
      • @Hasan

        Does your cave have an address..? What are you talking you fool?

        September 25, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
      • Hassan

        @rickirs u cnt understand where there is a logic you are just an emotional delusional person

        September 25, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
      • mullah dadullah

        the tone of this american's answer shows you his and his fellow americans' attitude-he talks as if he was born superior,as if he cannot be accountable for whatever he says or for whatever his country does.this shows that fighting him and him alikes is the only way.all muslim countries have to cut all ties with america(and israel,which is the same) and do whatever is necessary to liberate all muslim lands and close doors to christians forever.

        September 25, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
      • bada_lund

        All these mullahs are hypocrats. They talk about oneness of islam and these pakistanis who have been indoctrinated to believe in this oneness would be the first line of defects if they are asked to marry a black muslim girl. They will, no matter what how strong and poous they feel about their religion, not mix with darker and black skinned muslims because obviously their religion cannot change their basic standards of attraction within them. This is the same reason why arabs don't want them. You guys know this fact you mullahs that you are the highest consumers of fairness creams.

        September 26, 2011 at 1:53 am |
    • Dave

      Allah was thug from syria used to loot the Jews in the night. Gangleader.

      September 26, 2011 at 1:52 pm | Reply
  8. Gulsher

    Dear Americans,
    Please don't bring your frustration into Pakistan.You are about to loose everything in Afghanistan !! US citizens should realise their politicians regarding their poor results as far as war in Afghanistan and in Iraq is concerned. US citizens should remind their politicians regarding their employment rate!!
    US will never gonna win Afghan war and that's for sure....Let Afghan and people of Afghanistan live their lives..
    USA, kindly stop interference into other matters or remember what had happened to Soviet Union !!

    September 25, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Reply
    • Recrimination?

      Is that what you are warning the USA with? So EFfing bloated egos, you are probably also dreaming you are in heaven already, with 72 biatches by ya side wagging their tails.

      September 25, 2011 at 5:22 pm | Reply
      • Hassan

        Just 1 ans is US has guts to support one more war in their such financial crises in which they was about to be become defaulter their credit rating has lowered and mind it china has already made his position clear that they cannot tolerate such kind of stupidity from america if china wants then within 1 day US dollar can lose its all valve i think you dnt have the idea they possess mre US currency then US itself they can flood market wid US dollar and then that money become useless just get a life dude you prey on middle east oil. If u dnt have oil how can u even think tu fly a plane. just get to the basic facts todays america is not what it used to be.

        September 25, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
      • Hassan

        US has just faced fganistan and Iraq who has no armed and obviously no nukes. Till date US dnt have guts to deal with IIran Aor Korea how can they even fight with Pakistan

        September 25, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
    • rickirs

      Soviet Union fell before the US so think of what Pakistan's future might be as an enemy of the US.

      September 25, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Reply
      • Hassan

        The Fact is only american money was used for soviet wat soviet was not defeated by american bt by pakistani ISI and Talibans which was created by american money. This time we can money from china and again fight a wat and do the same what we did wid soviets lolzz ans is simple dnt mess me Pakistan

        September 25, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
      • easynan

        On Yahoo news there is an article about Linsey Graham and another Senator that are calling for war with Pakistan. And just what program are the Republicans going to take the money from to pay for another war or because it's what the GOP want , they don't need to worry about paying for it. I think the whole Republican Party has gone insane, they are so beside themselves that the American people elected a black President that they have come completely unglued. Attack a country that has nuclear weapons? Even Bush only attacked who he knew were unprepared to fight back and Pakistan is certainly not in that catagory!!!!
        GOP mixed with the tea baggies have become so unAmerican that they are refusing to help our own suffering from disasters or Americans out of work. Greed is all they live for.

        September 25, 2011 at 7:15 pm |
      • 2011cnn2011

        china and india with there 2 billion people will take care of your kind

        September 25, 2011 at 8:14 pm |
    • 2011cnn2011

      time for the US to drop the hydrogen bomb

      September 25, 2011 at 8:11 pm | Reply
  9. Xavier

    Yes .. The root of all terrorist activities is in only one country on earth and that is PAKISTAN.. America is like a blind man with a gun shooting everything that moves .. Iraq, Afganistan, Libya, Palestine, Iran , N. Korea are all baby stuff.. the real enemy Pakistan is the parasite sitting on the American shoulder and poisoning, killing it and eating into american tax payers valuable dollars too ... Pest control at a high level needed to nuke Pakistan and put an end to all terrorism..Till now what fools Americans are turning out to be ...

    September 25, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Reply
    • rickirs

      Every enemy of America has made one common mistake – Americans are fools and think only of their comforts. Most of those enemies are now either dead or part of a more democratic society. Try either one...it's your future.

      September 25, 2011 at 5:47 pm | Reply
    • indian gandu

      hello mr xavier , i think americian are fucking your mother and sister , because americian are also fucking each-other,now afghan peoples are fucking americian .

      September 25, 2011 at 6:14 pm | Reply
      • 2011cnn2011

        taliban wear dresses, I thjink they are fucked

        September 25, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
  10. PAK IS SATAN

    JINNAH HATED PAKISTAN .. HE DIDNT WANTED TO RAISE HIS FAMILY IN PAKISTAN ... HIS DAUGHTERS AND GRANDKIDS LIVED IN INDIA ALL THEIR LIFE ..

    JINNAH WANTED A TERRORIST STATE

    September 25, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Reply
    • THE SATAN INDIA

      The only terrorist in the world is dirty and filthy Indian State. It should be vanished away from globe.

      September 25, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Reply
      • LoveAmerica

        Pakistan has a history of 64 years, It has no culture and tradition that it can call its own. It is currently at the point of breaking down to pieces with internal problems of its own. Pakistanis are ashamed of their own "nationality". Pakistanis in USA try to hide their nationalism by declaring themselves as Indians. People the world over consider Pakistan as the epicenter of terrorism. All 9/11 terrorists and their planners have roots in Pakistan.

        Sorry my friend I beg to differ with you that India is a terrorist country. India has a history and tradition of over 5000 years and has influenced the world over by its tradition and culture. Indian economy is in rapid progression and is the third largest in the world (beating Japan). India will continue to last but Pakistan will be a short blip in the history of human kind!

        September 25, 2011 at 9:44 pm |
    • chin chin

      Jinnah didn't use to drink cows urine like nehru and gandhi (fact)!

      September 29, 2011 at 7:48 am | Reply
  11. Zak

    Yet another false information by CIA...playing with the innocent people as they have no value for their life's..how many times have CIA provided the correct intelligence Iraq, Afganistan,,libya,Iran,now this haqqani network, comeon stop this blame game..

    U.S putting their failure of Afghanistan on Pakistan n it is not hidden from the people of pakistan and it sholdn't be hidden form the people of United states!!!

    September 25, 2011 at 2:05 pm | Reply
  12. Nomi

    These things are happening because time is near for another sad ending of a superpower.

    September 25, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Reply
  13. haq

    y is this 'pakistanis-are-terrorists' so common in america n rest of the world, come on ppl neither of us want to be terrorists or be called terrorist, neither r we supporting terrorism.
    why is it so easy to believe the one man saying pakistanis are terrorists and reject the many ppl saying we are not. come on have sympathy for the thousands of ppl killed in pakistan everyday. somebody will definitely be supporting them.
    its important to know that more pakistani forces personel have died than the americans in afghanistan .

    September 25, 2011 at 11:47 am | Reply
    • Felix

      Those who live by the sword..

      September 25, 2011 at 12:16 pm | Reply
      • rickirs

        Those who love by the sword WIN and those who live by the pen write the obituaries !

        September 25, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
    • Fawad

      Propaganda is everything.

      September 25, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Reply
    • Surender sharma

      If US and European intelligence agencies try looking things differently, they will found out that it is china which is creating problem in all part of the world. Chinese made Russians busy in Chechanya, US in Afghanistan and korea together. China will never want US to leave Afghanistan and it is using pakistan to keep US in Afghanistan so that Americans chokes up economically. They are using the same tactics with North Korea where they are keeping Japan, south korea and US engaged and keep on spending money indefinitely. In India, Chinese are real force behind pakistan's proxy was against us. It is known fact that how badly chinese wants Sikkim. It is chinese interest with naxals and all of neighbour countries which is causing problem for us. Wake up, west to chinese plans. Chinese will suck your money by engaging you here and there in different part of the world. Can't you see that when you busy in fighting an invisible enemy, chinese are stepping purchase of valuable resources like coal, copper, oil etc. around the world. What use of such advance intelligence network when you cannot crack Chinese game plan. Non-sense....

      September 25, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Reply
    • LoveAmerica

      Pakistan has a history of sixty four years, It has no culture and tradition that it can call its own. It is currently at the point of breaking down to pieces with internal problems of its own. Pakistanis are ashamed of their own "nationality". Pakistanis in USA try to hide their nationalism by declaring themselves as Indians. People the world over consider Pakistan as the epicenter of terrorism. All 9/11 terrorists and their planners have roots in Pakistan.

      September 25, 2011 at 9:47 pm | Reply
  14. Krish

    Pakistan has a history of supporting terrorism for their own self-interests. Take a look at the Taliban (created by Pakistan to fight soviets and further supported by Pakistan after the USSR invasions to have a check on India). Look at Kashmir and the various groups that Pakistan started and are responsible for the 2008 Mumbai attacks, parliament attacks, etc. Now we have proof they're supporting terrorists against Americans. Perhaps they're sad about losing their brother, Bin Laden. Either way, Pakistan should know that the world will not tolerate this. As us Indians have done 4 times in the past, we're perfectly capable of destroying you and so is America. My message is simple, stop the support of terrorism and stop the support of your idiotic and corrupt government/ISI.

    September 25, 2011 at 11:15 am | Reply
    • Amir

      Indian can not fight with pakistan because they are cowards.Indians are begging for job in our muslim countries.Get out from middleast and sleep on roads like your poor poulation.

      September 25, 2011 at 1:33 pm | Reply
      • PAK IS SATAN

        TERE TATTE TERI SALWAAR MAIN FASS GAYE LAGTE HAIN ..

        SALLO GAREEB KI AULAD.. UR CURRENCY IS LOWER THEN SOMALIA AND AFGANISTAN LOL

        EVEN MIDDLEEASTERNS DONT LIKE PAKIES ... THEY SPIT ON UR FACES LOL

        September 25, 2011 at 3:11 pm |
      • LoveAmerica

        I HAVE BEEN AROUND MIDDLE EAST. PAKISTANIS ARE LOOKED DOWN UPON EVEN BY THE ARABS. I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR DEPRIVED SOCIETY AND STATE!

        September 25, 2011 at 10:41 pm |
      • Dave

        All pakis are product of rape!!!!!!!!11

        September 26, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
    • Hassan

      ohh crish realty see u talked abt kashmir have u ever run a pablicite as u promised wid UN. you are signatory of UN and you didnt do what you promised to do so your 700000 army is terrorist mind it and second these talibans was created by america himself not by pakistan instead of just talking rubbish get to the fact.

      September 25, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Reply
    • Hassan

      n i also think you forgot the biggest terrorist group makti bahini in 1971 and i think you also forget abt the attack on train in which ur bloody colonel was involved and i think u also forget some days ago ther was bomb attack in jewelery market n ur own ministry accepted hindu xtremist was behind them.

      September 25, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Reply
      • Hassan

        n abt corrupt government du i have tu pull out the documents abt ur leaders how much they du corruption and put their money in swiss banks just wake up from ur fantacy world.

        September 25, 2011 at 4:57 pm |
    • Interesting comment...

      ...or downright stupid.

      American created Paki terrorists in Pakistan and Pakis citizens form the foot soldiers. How come that's possible without the complicity of Pakistan?

      Fact remains that pak nurtured terrorism to with malicious ideas. Saudi Arabia and other countries poured money which your generals gleefully pocketed and sent their kids to the US to study. Now that you are exposed, you want to cry hoarse and play the victim card.

      Pakis kill innocent citizens of the world and Pakis kill other Pakis. Hatred is imprinted in your genetic structure and you want to seize Europe once again.

      September 25, 2011 at 5:29 pm | Reply
    • americano

      @krish......where did you get this new info that pakistan created taliban and al-qaida.....both of them created by CIA to combat russian invasion.Bin Laden was supported by us just like saddam hussein was ,in the wars against russia and iran.After we used them we did what we do best.......go figure .

      September 25, 2011 at 8:18 pm | Reply
  15. KRM1007

    The recent Japanese Earthquake and the devastation of its Nuclear Installations have opened the eyes of the Americans with respect to the safety of the population and the alarming inability of the Japanese scientists to foresee and contain the damage. Our prayers are with them.

    The recent decision of US Government to export Nuclear Technology to third world countries needs to be revisited and reconsidered particularly India and UAE. The Japanese, as technically sophisticated as their scientists and technicians are, were unable to contain the damage. The effects on the population were tremendous not to mention the economic, social, political implications to follow for years to come. If such related accidents were to happen in India (as an example) ,where the workforce is light years behind Japanese sophistication, the negative implications would be thousand fold as more than 3 Billion people reside in the neighborhood!! It would be a disaster to say the least. Besides being in earthquake, tsunami, flood zones, these regions are in the epicenter of terrorism and war zones.

    Notwithstanding that the US government has recently decided to align itself with countries such as UAE and India to repay them for doing our dirty and cleanup work in that region, economic and political reasons……..the Americans strongly oppose the transfer of Nuclear Technology to all such nations for preceding reasons. The Japanese experience has been an eye opener and the take away is that US Congress and government needs to reopen all nuclear export discussions and agreements and rescind assistance on all such programs that threaten humanity at large. We cannot and must not in good conscience support such moribund policies and we expect our politicians to stay ahead of the moral curve in such matters.

    September 25, 2011 at 10:18 am | Reply
    • PAK IS SATAN

      yawn..ok

      September 25, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Reply
      • Khutee a puttar

        lagtaa hai, kay tatte tayree maa kee bund mein hai...dalee kay bachoo, apnee maa ko dundoo kaun hai, saath walee tau nehien???LOLZ

        September 25, 2011 at 3:33 pm |
    • Whatcha smokin?

      Our = Pakistan? or America?

      The article is about Pakistan's army killing US soldiers and bombing US embassies. What has an earth quake got to do with it?
      Imagining facts where they don't exist and making connections where there is no relevance point to delusion.

      September 25, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Reply
    • brown

      Too late! The U.S.A. is one of the largest nuke technology proliferators on the planet.

      On day, these poor decisions will come back to haunt all of us.

      September 25, 2011 at 4:15 pm | Reply
  16. Jay1970

    1. We need to hit this Hiqqanis hard without regard t BS from Pakistan. Just like we did with B Ladan. These type of extrimist can only be delt with brute force, they would never negotiate in good face. Hope our decision makers use the term "peaceful Islam" only as polit correct term for media to calm down naive public.

    2. US has to stop accepting ANY immigration from Pakistan. Unless we want to solve the unemployment problem by major hiring probem at FBI and police. Any humble Paki taxi driver at some day can turn into a suicide bomber after reading too much exrtimist web sites. Examples are too numerous. Time square bomber, subway terrorist, etc. Why look for trouble, dont we have enough already?

    September 25, 2011 at 10:17 am | Reply
    • MarineDad05

      @ Jay1970

      In the UK, young 2nd generation British citizens of Pakistani origin attacked London buses, and in the US a Pakistan living and working in the US nearly succeeded in attacking Time Square.

      Talk about some gratitude from these Pakistanis. The English case says it all. Those Pakistani origin kids were born and brought up in England. Their parents were there, they were given the the best of what Britain offers to all it's citizens. Yet, these ungrateful Pakistanis thought it best to attack and kill in the country that feeds them.

      September 25, 2011 at 11:41 am | Reply
      • u r stupid??

        What are you saying? who were the rioters this year in england? White trash all of them!!! It was young laids of pakistani origin who lost there lives trying to stop rioters and instead of getting angry one of the guys dad came out and claimed things down!!! keep up with your news reading mate before you BS!
        also pak has lost more people in this fighting for US than US or any other country!! respect them for that! every day poeple lose their lives in pakistan because they are supporting the war against terror!!! which is basically for the well being of US and its citizens..the only reason they kill pakistani ppl is the support of US ...and they still support it – i am 100% sure if this was any other country they would have stopped supporting and think of there ppl before citizens of US!!! .wake up mate!

        September 25, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
      • Hassan

        Have u ever imagine the innocent people your arm forces are killing in afganistan and iraq havent you saw your army how unethical means they use on prisoners. have you forgot the invasion you made on iraq was falsified you are thinking about the attacks on your self but you people are not seeing the attacks on innocent people people who have a family to run who is father of some one who is a husbend of some one. you talk about injustice have you people ever think everyday israil kill innocent childrens by the backing of america when america prevails this kind of injustice then it is bound to be pay for that mind it and rem abt ur taxes u r breading on the oil that muslim countries generate mind it america has sees it rise and now downfall has started

        September 25, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
      • Pakis are the culprits

        @Stupid, @Hasan

        Oh yeah? Pakis are the victims again, in the UK riots too. Why don't you just pack and go back to your country? Just remember, you are victims in Pakistan too.

        You bas7@^01s self-segregate ghettoize in western country, suck out welfare money and then cleverly play the victim.

        Bloody Ingrates. You are the culprits. You are the cancer of the world

        September 25, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
    • Fawad

      US is doing drone strikes in Pakistan and using Pakistan as a passage (secrectly) since 2001. Why can't they take out the Haqani network out by themselves. US has lost the war and wants to blame it on someone. Pakistan, your it!

      September 25, 2011 at 12:42 pm | Reply
      • MarineDad05

        If its so darn secret, how do you know?

        Also, the US if have been doing all this, must have been the the express agreement of you Pakistani government, from Musharah to this new guy. Of course, they wanted huge payments from the US.

        The Pakistani government, and the ISI have always been playing a shell game, and now the US has proof. It has caught the Haquani gang and will get rid of it. And Pakistan need not worry, the US does not need Pakistan's 'help' for this or anything else.

        September 25, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • americano

      We took care of that after 9/11...we shipped over 100000 of them back to pakistan.Job problem start with indians willing to work for dime a day without break.

      September 25, 2011 at 8:23 pm | Reply
  17. PAK IS SATAN

    country pakistan cant even cure fever like dangue .. or take care of floods and wants to fvk america lol

    September 25, 2011 at 9:12 am | Reply
    • n

      The Haqqani gang and LeT, both are un-official Divisions in the Pakistan Army, each about 15000 soldiers dressed in civilian clothes. They get their salaries from ISI and their families get pension from ISI, if they get killed in operations. Thus they are direct employees of the Pakistan Army. Both the Army Divisions are under tight control of ISI, and they can not carry out any operation unless ISI orders them to do so.

      September 25, 2011 at 10:08 am | Reply
      • Hassan

        llolz @n you are so sure what is happening on the ground i think america should contact you. by any chance do you even knw the full name of the person who is running haqqani group and from where he belongs lolz just get goin child. people talk llike they are actualy in battle field and know what everyone is doing

        September 25, 2011 at 5:11 pm |
      • rickirs

        Sirajuddin uncle (?) is ISI funded so Haqqni's existence is Pakistan-sanctioned – Pakistan needs to consider where its future lies, with anti democratic death squads or a democractic peace for its citizens.

        September 25, 2011 at 6:08 pm |
    • Fawad

      Indians are trolling the forum 🙂

      September 25, 2011 at 12:42 pm | Reply
      • Umesh

        All those who are taking you from behind are not indians 🙂

        September 25, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
    • India is LUN

      dengue a machar taree maa key bund mein.

      September 25, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Reply
  18. PAK IS SATAN

    PAKISTAN NATIONAL ANTHEM

    AMMI KE MOMME HAI MOTTE
    HUMMARE LUND HAI CHOTTE

    ARMY PEHANTI HAI SALWAAR
    INDIA KO SURRENDER KIA 4 BAR

    BEHN SE KERTE HAI SHADDI
    ABBU HAI GANDU

    AMMI HAI RAND
    DIL DIL PAKISTAN

    September 25, 2011 at 9:08 am | Reply
    • Fawad

      U r sick my friend :))

      September 25, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Reply
    • Dallay a bacha ... Pak is satan

      tayree maa kaa mamaay, aur us key bund me mera lun. jab jab awaaz niklay, tab tab mera lun taree maa mein ghusay,,,hahahaha....seriously ask her???

      September 25, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Reply
    • americano

      @ PAK IS SATAN....Dude chill........take a pill bro....attacking anybody national anthem is not polite.Good civilized people respect everybody national anthems.

      September 25, 2011 at 8:27 pm | Reply
    • trader

      thats different coming from an Indian...you mother must be so proud of you!

      September 29, 2011 at 7:45 am | Reply
  19. Ali dong fong

    America just can't survive in Afghanistan for even a few days without Pakistan. Pakistan will stop US supplies through land route to choke Americans. America is in fact unhappy over the new block growing fast, Iran-Pakistan and China. Look at these American supporters calling America a super power, they have been defeated by Taliban and they can't start a new war with Pakistan. Iran as an attack base is out of question, India knowing what price it may pay will also not allow. No route to Kabul, so Americans are stranded, they will get out of S Asia for ever. Look at the state of these American shootias who cant fight with Haqqani instead the are insisting Pakistan to fight their war. Not only Hina but all officials have warned America, except their planted figures. I don't think America is in a position to start a nuclear war in the region, particularly after its humiliation in Kabul. American case is exactly like the USSR of 1989. Feel sorry for them and their supporters. We pakies Chinese will knock the hell out of Americans.

    September 25, 2011 at 7:08 am | Reply
    • PAK IS SATAN

      ABBU GANDU AMMI RAND
      DIL DIL PAKISTAN

      COUNTRY CANT EVEN CURE REGULAR FEVER LIKE DANGUE LOL

      September 25, 2011 at 9:10 am | Reply
      • Fawad

        Nice display of your upbringing 🙂

        September 25, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
      • kala jutt

        hey i just fucked an indian girl she cried like whore and she was saying that pakistani boys are more stronger then the indian boys hahahhahaaa

        September 26, 2011 at 1:30 am |
    • Bobby Patton

      Americans already have access to Afganistan from the Northern side. They do not need Pakistan to bring in supplies.
      You have been blowing up NATO trucks for past 4 years so don't you get it they have figured out your double games.

      September 25, 2011 at 9:51 am | Reply
      • Fawad

        Just a small clarification. These trucks belong to Pakistani transporters and driven by Pakistani drivers who are working as contractors and AQ (Not Pakistanis) is blowing them up. Stop the false propaganda. Its like I say, Americans abducted Joyce Dugard.

        September 25, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
      • Hassan

        oo really just ask any informative person who must it cost america to trade from northern region and from pakistan in the time when they was almost on default you expect that they can take this new economic pressure and for your information 70% of their supply is from Pakistan and 30% is from other routes. Get a life dude.

        September 25, 2011 at 5:15 pm |
    • Dennis

      Idiot,America has not lost in Afghanistan and is not being humiliated.We are only dealing with religious nutcases who only know how to treat people with extreme cruelty.Pakistan's army is a bunch of ragtag illiterate cowards who cannot even defend their own sovereignty much less control a small terrorist network.No,we have not been defeated.We are still there and fighting a good fight.Stick your nose back into your evil book the Koran and wrap yourself in it's evil ways.In the mean time,go about your evil life,learn the ways of the entire world and go back to your cave to live in further obscurity.You are a worthless person with a worthless opinion.

      September 25, 2011 at 10:20 am | Reply
      • gratular

        So when do you think America "won" at any point in this war? This is a cut copy of the war with Russia in Afghanistan. You cannot defeat the Taliban, period, end of story.. Its impossible. Americans can stay there for 30 years, nothing will change... You cant even bomb the country off the map, its all rock!! Wake up you small minded people thinking that the US has any business in the middle east.. The taliban has handed America its rear end in a basket while laughing....

        September 25, 2011 at 11:03 am |
      • Fawad

        If someone is willing to die to get me killed, I wouldn't even fight that guy cause he may be crazy but I am not. America is fighting that crazy guy. Good luck.

        September 25, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
      • False Bravado?

        @gratular, @Fawad

        Fellas, you gotta come back to reality. Whatever got you high ain't enough in military action. With america, you're probably going to pass off as a respectable nation. With China, you're gonna end up a prostitute with no where else to go.

        Your government fc uKd up. Crying hoarse on CNN won't help. None of you Pakis cared to talk about what your contribution to reform in your country is. Why?

        Your occupation seems to be playing the victim card and blaming the US.

        September 25, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
      • Hassan

        @False Bravado hahahah em just laughing at ur argument that wid china and prostitute thing lolzzzzz dude just go back and see your dying Europian union was begging china to help them for their financial crisis and america was begging them to help them in the financial crises not to overdose market wid dollars so that their currency can sustain who in practical who is the prostitute i think ans is clear now

        September 25, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
      • False Bravado?

        @Hasan
        Too bad, you and your ilk live the good life and enjoy the fruits of the western civilization but see pleasure in the downfall of the west. Your little bubble is about to burst, Western civilization dominated the world and is here to stay.

        If you don't like it, you can p!mp your stinkin ass to ch!n@, your 'all weather madam'.

        September 25, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
      • Hassan

        @False Bravado? dude time has come to tell who will dominate before EU muslims rule over you its just the evolution rise has fall now you are falling and abt fruits just goback and learn some history of spain. During muslim rule over there you people get knowledge of science. You are not founder of any culture.

        September 25, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
    • Krish

      "Us Pakis will knock the hell out of America." You're forgetting that us Indians are on America's side. You're forgetting that the whole world is on America's side. Now you claim the Chinese will help you, but they can't risk losing America. Most of their big corporations are FROM America. If they lose the appeal of the Americans, they'll suffer heavily. Also, Pakistan is in no position to wage more war. Take a look in the mirror, you're unstable, your men are dying, and you're losing. The world is becoming aware of the terrorism your government has supported in Kashmir, India, and Afghanistan. There's a reason why the Afghans really dislike Pakistan. So please, save us the propaganda and heroic tales, we all know Pakistan and its soldiers are worthless. Another thing, try and win something for once, us Indians beat you in 4 wars buddy.

      September 25, 2011 at 11:08 am | Reply
      • Hassan

        Some1 named krish is sleeping phewww

        September 25, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
    • LoveAmerica

      Mr. Fong: Sorry, your country has a name that is only some sixty four years old. Its borders can and will change and we will find access to Afghanistan not via your god forsaken country but through a free state of Baluchistan. Just wait and see!

      September 25, 2011 at 10:00 pm | Reply
    • LoveAmerica

      Mr. Fong: – Sorry, your country has a name that is only some sixty four years old. Its borders can and will change and we will find access to Afghanistan not via your god forsaken country but through a free state of Baluchistan. Just wait and see!

      September 25, 2011 at 10:23 pm | Reply
  20. alan

    Pakistan has been the worlds terrorism swamp. The madrasas there just churn out demented, Islamists ready to blow themselves up anywhere in the world. You wont get anywhere by talking to these Islamic madmen. Iran, Syria fall next.. and they're about taking Israel off the map.
    Nothing short of a full scale Islama-beating will quell this. But we've got to firm up the allied base first..

    September 25, 2011 at 3:00 am | Reply
  21. danish khan

    pakistan will fuck US army

    September 25, 2011 at 2:25 am | Reply
    • Hawaii

      Daydreaming is a bad habbit my friend.

      September 25, 2011 at 5:17 am | Reply
    • ret

      with what, their dirty sandals?

      September 25, 2011 at 8:42 am | Reply
    • Fred Phred

      Oh they F'd us several times already.

      But we learned our lesson and killed Bin Laden without telling them of the operation.

      September 25, 2011 at 8:43 am | Reply
    • Dennis

      Filthy mouth,filthy mind,corrupt religion.You are a brainwashed zombie.Pakistan cannot even defeat the Haqqani network.Oh,yeah and Osama is now dead because of a small special forces group of our military.Your perverted beliefs are not shared by most of the world,just the sick portion of it!

      September 25, 2011 at 10:35 am | Reply
      • gratular

        All religion is filthy. Islam, Judaism & Christianity all pray to the same "god": God of Abraham... Allah, Yahweh & God are all the same human invention to promote fear before there was law...Religion should be what it is: A cute passtime/hobby.

        September 25, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • gratular

      Pakistan has already handed America its ass....America would never mess with Pakistan, they have nukes.. America does not have the power to mess with Pakisitan.. They just stick to their little remote control airplane attacks for now, LOL

      September 25, 2011 at 11:05 am | Reply
    • Krish

      Ironic man, Pakistan has never won a single war. Us Indians won 4 wars. I don't think you're in any shape to take on the Americans. Even if you do, rest assured we'd destroy you first.

      September 25, 2011 at 11:30 am | Reply
      • Khan

        For the record, India lost the 1948 and 1965 war running to the UN and USSR to cease the Pakistani assault. India won the 1971 war. The 1999 Siachen battle was won by India but is not considered a war, just a local skirmish.

        September 25, 2011 at 4:46 pm |
      • americano

        @krish.........you are such a brown nosser...let me explain( a@@ kisser ).....

        September 25, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
  22. A Proud Pakhtun

    The problem in my country Pakistan is that the racist Punjabis treat every other community as inferiors. Balochi, Pakhtu, Sindhi – everyone is inferior to the racist Punjabis. The punjabi cheaters dominate the army, the ISI, the cricket team, everything.
    I am sure we will have a better life in Afghanistan.
    – A proud Pakhtun

    September 25, 2011 at 2:02 am | Reply
    • Proud Pakistani

      You can not be Pakistani Pakhun. They are proud to be Pakistani and are patriots. We love them. You are a Farsiwan Afhani, who knows nothing about histroy. 35 % pakhtuns are serving in Pakistan Army which is greater a proportion than their entire population!

      September 25, 2011 at 6:29 am | Reply
      • Ahmed

        I completely agree with Proud Pakistan and Shame on you proud Pakhtoon. SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!

        September 25, 2011 at 8:45 am |
      • A Proud Pakhtun

        Typical supremacist mindset

        September 25, 2011 at 11:21 am |
      • Khan

        I am a proud Pakistani and Pukhtun and believe we are all brothers, as a nation. Please be soft on our Proud Pukhtun as he may have felt disgruntled due to the policies of our government and buearocracy which may leave many minorities feel discriminated against. I have faced this kind of discrimination too in Pakistan but this does not mean I should hate Pakistan. I have also had some wonderful experiences while in Pakistan and can tell that I most Pakistanis are nice and willing to help anyone in distress.

        September 25, 2011 at 4:56 pm |
      • Khan

        I am a proud Pakistani and Pukhtun and believe we are all brothers, as a nation. Please be soft on our Proud Pukhtun as he may have felt disgruntled due to the policies of our government and buearocracy which may leave many minorities feel discriminated against. I have faced this kind of discrimination too in Pakistan but this does not mean I should hate Pakistan. I have also had some wonderful experiences while in Pakistan and can tell that most Pakistanis are nice and willing to help anyone in distress.

        September 25, 2011 at 4:57 pm |
    • Krish

      There's nothing to be proud of in being Pakistani. Unless you're proud of the idiotic terrorists your government/ISI supported and the 4 wars you lost to us Indians. Go back home and hide Pakistani, war isn't for little boys like you.

      September 25, 2011 at 11:10 am | Reply
  23. SY JANJUA

    Jews is getting the most powerful lobby in USA and world, with very fragile base, so they will play the most dirtiest trick for their survival,They even do not miss any chance to cheat many times repeatedly to their creator as per their long history. The rest of Americans should know the simple history lesson of JEWS character in GERMANY before WWII

    September 25, 2011 at 1:03 am | Reply
    • Fred Phred

      Hey, when in doubt.. just blame the Jews.

      We're blowing up people all over the world, including Muslims in Spain, UK, Austrailia, US – because of the Jews.. Yeah that's it.

      September 25, 2011 at 8:47 am | Reply
    • False Bravado?

      And you got this from your radicalized semi-literate mulla in the neighborhood, eh? get outta that cave you moron.

      September 25, 2011 at 5:53 pm | Reply
  24. SY JANJUA

    Jews is getting the most powerful lobby in USA and world, with very fragile base, so they will play the most dirtiest trick their survival, but in the last their state will be vanished and all the JEWS will scattered in world because they will not find any place to live due to their dirty filthy character. They do not miss any chance to cheat many times repeatedly to their creator.The rest of Americans should know the simple history lesson of JEWS character in GERMANY before WWII

    September 25, 2011 at 12:54 am | Reply
  25. SPQR

    You can't win the war on terror by only fighting the terrorists in the mountains. You also haev to fight the ones who are feeding, arming, training, giving them intel etc... Other wise your are just sweeping the sand in the desert.

    September 25, 2011 at 12:08 am | Reply
  26. Bobby Patton

    The bigger issue of the World is the more than 100 Nuclear Weapons in Pakistan and the 20 Million strong Jihadi Next Generation. Since 1947 Pakistan has allowed millions of kids to be doctrined in Madrassas. These are brain washed folks who are willing to do anything. These brainwashed kids are now adults and have infitrated the Army & Intelligence.

    September 24, 2011 at 11:12 pm | Reply
  27. Never accept shortcomings

    ...relentlessly poke holes in the arguments of the opposite side.
    That is the mantra of the pakistanis on this forum. In the USA, you would see people argue for both sides of the coin. Not so with the Pakis.

    Is the whole population brainwashed with the same point of view? Or, worse yet, are the Pakis on this forum touts of the ISI or Govt point of view? Surely 180 million can't always be agreeing on a point.

    September 24, 2011 at 10:54 pm | Reply
  28. A Snake...

    ....never learns Gratitude.

    September 24, 2011 at 10:44 pm | Reply
    • Proud Pakistani

      Yes, Snake always shows ingratitide. America is a Snake and Pakistan is the victim. Pakistan fought war against russia and caused it balkanisation but as soon as was was over American turned their back on Pakistan. Not only this, it imposed sanctions on Pakistan. Today's terrorism has more to do with American running with its tail in its rear legs after russian pull out than pakistan reisisting any temptation to violate its territory. Read histroy numbskull!

      September 25, 2011 at 6:22 am | Reply
      • tom

        if billions in annual aid to Pakistan is turning our backs on you, wait until we stop sending money!

        September 25, 2011 at 7:45 am |
      • hotsupercars

        @tom, in the last 10 years the US has provided $20 billion, not in aid but against the services of pakistan army for the US ..and according to neutral sources pakistan has suffered upto $70 billion in its economy since 9/11 and has lost 35000 lives, majority of them civilians....

        September 25, 2011 at 10:42 am |
      • Dennis

        Proud Pakistani:Go back to your cave and eat the rats that reside there with you.Then go marry a 12 yr.old girl and behead your sister.Afterwards,change out of your pajamas and shower the filth from your body and mind.Piss on you and your Koran!

        September 25, 2011 at 10:46 am |
      • False Bravado?

        @hotsupercars

        What economy are you talking about? How does the economy function with an in-fighting society and a corrupt ruling elite?
        Pak needs to reform from within. They're rotten to the core. What you see is only the symptoms of the disease that caused the core to rot. The world unfortunately, is having to pay the price.

        September 25, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
  29. dani

    Bravo Mullen , and all of our decision makers. First we totally screw up Iraq and then oops , Sadam had nothing to do with it , Iraq had nothing to do with it. Then Bomb the hell out of Afghanistan and then oops OBL was not even there the enemy is in PK. Pakistan has already been screwed up by the Russian Afghan proxy war by CIA. It has already been droned to hell. Now what ever else is left of them let us beat the crap out of Pak using boots. Now is our intelligence and decision making in this 10 year old war faulty or what ? Is it worth Billions into Trillions when it can cost us so much to figure out we were aiming at wrong targets for TEN YEARS ???? What is the guarantee that the future recommendations will bear the fruit ??? ....in the process driving the USA into financial mess. Just look at the economy...... Seems to me some one has got this Gentle Giant USA blindfolded and fighting the proxy war......riding its shoulders.... Just read through this board and you will see all kind of USA sympathizers giving history lessons ...The ones who have stolen thousands upon hundreds of thousands of jobs . If your IT job has been off shored you know what I mean..... If I may ask the followers of JC , An eye for an eye and tooth for tooth may be fair revenge. for the loss of 3000 plus round it off to 4,000 on that fate full day 10 years ago we have already sacrificed more then 4000 off our own soldiers in this ten year war. Multiply by the factor of your choice to calculate the enemy combatants and the collateral damage of civilians by direct military action and the chaos due to war,,,, Where is the sanity check.. ?where is the civility ? where is the humanity in all this? God bless and save my country, my USA.

    September 24, 2011 at 10:38 pm | Reply
    • SY JANJUA

      Jews is getting the most powerful lobby in USA and world, with very fragile base, so they will play the most dirtiest trick their survival,They do not miss any chance to cheat many times repeatedly to their creator.The rest of Americans should know the simple history lesson of JEWS character in GERMANY before WWII

      September 25, 2011 at 12:58 am | Reply
    • americano

      well said.....i could not agree more

      September 25, 2011 at 8:41 pm | Reply
  30. Badly-Bent

    Isn't it rich?
    Are we a pair?
    Me here at last on the ground,
    And in mid-air.

    Send in the drones.

    Isn't it bliss?
    Don't you approve?
    One who keeps tearing around,
    One who can't move.

    Where are the drones?
    Send in the drones.

    Just when I'd stopped opening doors,
    Finally knowing the friend that I wanted was yours,

    Making an entrance again with his usual flair,
    Sure of his lines, But, no one stayed there.
    Don't you love farce?
    My fault I fear.
    I thought that you'd want what I want.
    Sorry, my dear.

    But where are the drones?
    Quick, send in the drones.

    Don't bother, they're here

    September 24, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Reply
    • tom

      Fail

      September 25, 2011 at 7:46 am | Reply
  31. CharlieSeattle

    Lol...but Pakistan is our friend and ally

    September 24, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Reply
  32. Ayesha

    The people US is fighting are Pakthuns by ethnicity. Pakthuns never wished to be part of Pakistan. People should read history. In 1947 referdum (India vs Pakistan) inspite of The boycott of the Ghaffar Khan's party & Indian Congress the referdum went in Pakistan favor only marginally 50.1% that despite 100% of Pakthuns being Muslim. At that time Ghaffar Khan commented to the Indians "U SOLD the Pakthuns TO THE WOLVES(Pakis)". In hindsight how true that statement was, Pakistan accepted american aid and brainwashed these uneducated Pakthun refugess to be terrorists all in the name of Islam. It will take a long time for the Pakthuns to recover from this. This problem would have never happened had the leader of the Pakthuns Ghaffar Khan not boycotted the referdum. Pakthunistan would have been part of a secular India and been very stable and part of a economically growing India. Tragically it will end up as a failed state

    September 24, 2011 at 7:00 pm | Reply
    • Krish

      India actually supported the northern alliance and the people of Afghanistan. Pakistan supported the Taliban. As a matter of fact, the Taliban was CREATED by Pakistan. It's ironic how they demand more aid now and when they don't get it, they plan to strain relations with America.

      September 24, 2011 at 7:59 pm | Reply
      • Qadeer Zafar

        Mr. Krish Mullah Omer is from Afghanistan not from pakistan and taliban majority is in afghanistan not in pakistan sooner or later these taliban will strike the doors of india as their ancestors did and will again occupy your mother india just wait for some time

        September 25, 2011 at 12:48 am |
      • Krish

        Qadeer- How was the Taliban formed? Pakistan. a third of the Taliban are Pakis and your idiotic Paki government fight side-by-side with them. Also, they cannot take control of India. Too many people and we're too strong. We'll do what we did with Pakistan, slaughter them (in 4 wars).

        September 25, 2011 at 11:11 am |
      • Qadeer Zafar

        hey krish just read the history your rajpoot tribes were very also very strong but they got defeated by the invaders coming from afghanistan and india have almost 300 million muslims now and at that time there were no muslims in india so meray bachay be ready they will bring the hell out of you the way they have brought hell out of the world strongest army usa and ISAF so be ready its just a matter of time and where your oil is coming from Middle east all of them are muslim countries you are trapped its just a matter of some years. also to remind you when taj mehal hotel in mumbai got attacked it was Saudi Arabia which told indian leadership if they made any attack on pakistan then india will get no oil u people are at muslims mercy keep in your mind ok

        September 26, 2011 at 1:44 am |
    • Ayesha

      This is much before Taliban. I am going back to 1947 when majority of Pakthuns did not want to be a part of Pakistan and would have joined India had , Ghaffar Khan and Indian Congress not boycotted the referdum. This is was Ghaffar Khans loss and he died an unhappy man. And his people are suffering bcoz of the crazy Pakis.

      September 24, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Reply
      • Qadeer Zafar

        Miss Ayesha the person u r reffering Ghaffaar khan was a an asshole and he did not enjoy the pakhtoons majority today his(ghaffar) relatives are ruling and looting the poor pakhtoons u must not misread the history to others and you may mourn like a whore for the rest of your life

        September 25, 2011 at 12:44 am |
    • Ahmed

      People like Ayesha are the problem not only for Pakistan but also for the world peace. These kind hypocrites spit on the plate on which they eat food. I feel sorry for you Ayesha. May be you don't know that Pakhtoons are more Pakistani than any other sub-nation in Pakistan. They have given their blood for our safety and security, many Pathans are on the top position in different organizations in Pakistan. We are proud of all the Pakhtoon and they are an important asset for Pakistan.
      May Allah show you the right path. Ameen!!!

      September 25, 2011 at 8:42 am | Reply
    • americano

      and your point is? go get a life.....you are not making any sense

      September 25, 2011 at 8:44 pm | Reply
  33. MUNIR AHMED

    WELL AS YOUAA KNOW OBAMA'S RATINGS ARE ALL TIME LOW AND ELECTIONS ARE NOT TOO FAR AND NOT MUCH TIME LEFT FOR DEM GOVT TO PROVE ANYTHING TO MAKE ANYTHING BETTER , WHETHER BE ECONOMY OR JOBS OR WHATEVER ...SOOOO BEST AND EASY THING IS TO START ANOTHER BATTLE FRONT AND GET THE PEOPLES SYMPTHY AND TRY TO STEAL THE ELECTION ....ALSO TRYING TO PROVE THAT WE (THE GOVT.) IS TRYING TO PROTECT YOU ....BULL CRAP ...AFGHAN WAR HAS NO END AND DEMS NEED AN ESCAPE GOAT...WHAT BETTER TARGET THAN OLD BUDDY(SO CALLED)) PAKISTAN .

    September 24, 2011 at 6:57 pm | Reply
    • @Munir

      Yaawn. Yet another conspiracy theory. Can't expect better from a Paki.

      The confidence with which you mouth those inanities qualifies you to be pathologically delusional.

      September 25, 2011 at 1:49 am | Reply
  34. vinny

    Get some!!! Send in drones and build ones with even bigger missiles. This way we wont have to use troops to dispatch these pedo worshipping barbarians

    September 24, 2011 at 5:37 pm | Reply
    • Jimmer

      You tell'm Vinny!!!!!! Great way to make friends....lol

      September 24, 2011 at 8:42 pm | Reply
  35. Stop Targeting

    You want to get the haqqanis? Do like you did with bin laden. Stop targeting pashtun dominated area, the terrorists are supported by ISI and pakistani government, not the pashtun minority. Bin laden was believed to be hiding in peshawar or FATA-area. Yet he was found in Abottabad, a urban punjabi dominated area. I know that a lot of you believe that us pashtuns are all jihadis, NOT TRUE. The most popular pashtun party in KPK area is a SECULAR party. target ISI and mullahs, not innocent poor pashtuns. I know a lot of you will comment negativly ..but just remember, bin laden was said to be with the pashtuns, he wasn't! His driver spoke pashto..but was ARAB.

    September 24, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Reply
    • drstanley

      I think this man is speaking The Truth. I think all the Terrorist leaders are living The High Life in nice homes and they make the poor suffer. We wouldn't find some Wall Street Punk in Fargo,ND but laying low in The Hamptons. Capice?
      Hey nobody and I mean NOBODY screwed The World up more than the Presidents Bush and their New World Order.
      Skunks of the First Order is more like it.

      September 24, 2011 at 4:56 pm | Reply
    • Ayesha

      Salaam brother. I am from Afghanistan and I understand the pain my Pakthun brothers are going thru bcoz of this leech called Pakistan.

      September 24, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Reply
      • dharm

        why don t you make your own repulics country & join the usa or with india it will solve all the problem

        September 24, 2011 at 10:11 pm |
      • Qadeer Zafar

        Ayesha when ussr invaded and stripped clothes of your mothers and sisters who came to your rescue the pakistani with the help of isi and cia you shoud not be unthankful to the country which paid heavy price to protect skin of you people

        September 25, 2011 at 12:54 am |
      • Nathan

        You obviously don't know crap about Pakhtoons nor you know about history. Afghanistan was the only country that stood up against the creation of Pakistan in the U.N. NWFP was created by a majority of Pakthoon vote and trible elders consent...... Stop blaming your problems on others. We all know that Afganistan is based on Pakthtoons , Uzbeks , Tajikis ethnicity and all three has a history of not getting along since years. Afghanistan has exported nothing but terrorism, drugs , arms to Pakistan. The worst mistake Pakistan made was when it allowed millions of Afghans to enter Pakistan as refugees.

        September 25, 2011 at 1:10 am |
      • americano

        when russia invaded afghanistan.....who helped you...where did you took refuge?All 40 millions of you.so get real sister.Pakistan is still paying the price by letting yoy get in pakistan.who do you think these pakistani talibans are.....they are your beloved pakhtun brothers.

        September 25, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
  36. Wastrel

    Q: How do you tell the Pakistanis from the Haqqanis?
    A: It doesn't matter.

    September 24, 2011 at 10:28 am | Reply
    • Kyle

      HAHA THATS HILARIOUS!!!!!

      September 24, 2011 at 11:16 am | Reply
    • Anonymous

      Meanwhie, in Pakistan, two men are walking along, and one says to the other, "How do you tell a war-monger Republican from a peace-loving Democrat?" Upon which his friend says, "Who cares, they're still Americans."

      My point of this is: When you try to show how smart and witty you are, all you are proving is your insensetivity, arrogance, and validating the anti-American beliefs that the rest of the world has for Americans.

      September 24, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Reply
      • David Cummings

        So says someone under the pseudonym "Anonymous".

        September 24, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Abby

      You best worry about your economy than anything else. Pretty soon, Al Qaeda will be recruiting unemployed Americans into its "workforce" but greater benefits than what Obama has been able to provide !!

      September 24, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Reply
  37. Andy

    The fact of the matter is that the kind of rule which Pakistan likes is Shariya which is anything except for a peaceful one.This is what makes the rest of the countries uncomfortable.Add to that the nuclear strength of Pakistan,we have things to be worried about.
    Its wrong to say U.S is against our religion and the biggest proof of that is -all the Pakistanis who leave their country hav U.S as their first preference to settle.And why do these Paksitanis leave their country–mostly because of people like Haqqanis.So,in a way Pakistanis support their murderers and expect the rest of the worls to do so.
    But that is not going to happen.All things evil have to end and the time is here.May god provide strength to U.S to be successful.U.S needs to be smarter this time in chosing its friends and watch out the decision it makes.If not for the U.S aid,Pakistan would never have had nuclear bombs.

    September 23, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Reply
    • prettygal

      Why is our US government giving BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars each year to Pakistan, a state sponsor of terror?
      I can think of a lot of better uses for that money-that too, borrowed money that we are paying interest on.
      "Fool me once, shame on you.... fool me twice, shame on me"...Pakistan is rotten to its' putrid core.... rotten and evil.

      September 23, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Reply
      • Andy

        I tell ya,if you are the strongest kid on the block,you would need fighters to extend your strength.Pakistan is the most profesional hired fighter any country can get.Hope it makes sense.

        September 23, 2011 at 6:19 pm |
    • US

      Can't agree more!!!

      September 23, 2011 at 7:50 pm | Reply
  38. Awabnavi

    Derka Derka " The US is in no way perfect, but we try to right our wrongs" - Well then Charity begins at Home. Give the country back to its Original Inhabitants against whom you had committed the GREATEST GENOCIDE in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD. I for one would certainly applaud your "righting of this wrong".

    September 23, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Reply
    • Fred Phred

      You've got some nerve to critcize the country that's given you conveniences such as electic power, the telephone, the television, the personal computer, and the internet that you use to write your baloney.

      Had we "given the country back" we'd still be living in teepees.

      And you're welcome.

      September 23, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Reply
      • ajsolis

        Don't get your panty's in a bunch Fred or you will get assigned a teepee.

        September 23, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    • austin

      hahaha greatest geonocide of the world what about what the nazis did what about what russia did what about bosnia and rwanda what somalia is still doing yeah look those up I think they were more of a geonocide than killing a couple of terrorist

      September 24, 2011 at 1:01 am | Reply
      • levend

        He is talking about the Native Indian that were wiped out. In theory it was a genocide – read the definition.

        September 24, 2011 at 7:10 am |
    • Truth

      You are either completely ignorant of wanting to learn the truth or a Muslim using Taqiyyah.. I know you people all too well.. Why? I am an arab as welll and an ex Muslim. We blame everything on others. We take no responsibility for radicals that have been breastfed hate from the teachings in the Quran. All of the 270 million murders committed in the name of Islam is because of Mohammeds arrogance, narcissism, and hatred for anyone who wouldnt follow his teachings and believe in his fictitious Allah... All of this madness because of ohe sick man.. Mohammed..

      September 24, 2011 at 10:11 am | Reply
      • Let the peace come

        you need to go through quran before you make any statements about this book by the way who tried to crucify jesus i guess your answer may be muhamed ( where as muhammed did not exist in jesus times) quran talks about the jesus (son of merry) in a revered manner. hitler was not muslim u know he led to the death of many people it and he was christin so i shall call christianity a source of bloodshed. muhammad never promoted bloodshed and war was treated as a last resort by muhammed please do not get angry if i hurt your feelings all i am sorry fot that. all u need to do is segregate facts from fallacies

        September 24, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • Wastrel

      Pretty stupid, dude. I suggest you give up Islam and return to the religion of your ancestors, because the US is not going to stand for that kind of nonsense much longer.

      September 24, 2011 at 10:32 am | Reply
    • Krish

      Interesting. Perhaps Pakistan should give Kashmir back to the rightful Hindus (it was our holy land). Ever heard of the Hindu Kush? Over a million Hindus dead during the Muslim conquests of India. Pakistan is our land in all retrospect. So before you go and insult Americans for taking native American land, you should take a look at yourself.

      September 24, 2011 at 8:03 pm | Reply
  39. Awabnavi

    Pakistan should shut out NATO from using its territory and order the Americans home just as Turkey ordered out the Israelis and to keep their nukes primed and ready to us and to hell with the US. It has already suffered much for backingthe US in ITS war on terror and allowedd the use of its territory and this is all the thanks it gets. The US is TRYING TO SAVE FACE by blaming everybody LEFT and RIGHT for the fact that it is definitely NOT WINNING in Afghanistan.

    September 23, 2011 at 4:12 pm | Reply
    • Fred Phred

      Not winning? Why are you idiots so convinced that our goal is to win anything? Our goal is to go there and kick some butt and to make things uncomfortable for the people who were gracious hosts to the 911 terrorists.

      There is nothing to win. It's a barren wasteland. You can keep it.. really.

      You missed the whole point of the exercise. Winning has nothing to do with this. The point was to make you realize you don't want to harbor terrorists or it will mean 10 years of drone missles.

      September 23, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Reply
      • Andy

        I like what i hear

        September 23, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
      • BradGa

        I have to agree with Fred on this one. No one wants that place but the stone people who live in it. All America wants is to kill as many bad guys as possible until our Congress wusses out and calls all the soldiers back home. The only problem I have is that the decision makers didn't learn a damn thing about war after WW2. Fact is: if you are going to commit young men and women to die then the only rule in war is there ARE NO rules. To hell with winning the hearts and minds. To hell with flushing the enemy from within their ranks. The only affective strategy is to waste all that stand in the way or your goal. If you are going to send your people in to die and tax the hell out of the citizens to fund it...THEN DO IT RIGHT AND BE DONE WITH IT. Cold hard facts.

        September 23, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
      • austin

        BradGa if someone signs up for the army what does that mean ummmm that means they are risking there lives to fight for this country not signing up to just sit at home so if u sign up to do something that means that you have no problem being there

        September 24, 2011 at 12:56 am |
      • trader

        aah sorry you are an idiot...al qaeda's plan from the get go was to get the US involved in afghanistan...OBL clearly suggested back in 2000 (yes before 9/11) that they will bankrupt the mighty USA...he may be dead but thanks to idiots like you he has succeeded...most people on wall street know that the economy is doomed and the govt. doesn't own shit...US cannot afford to leave iraq/afghanistan forever and now it cannot afford to stay either...result: start a new war with Pakistan and try to salvage something...

        September 29, 2011 at 7:38 am |
    • Indian

      Dear Mr Navab – the origins of Pakistan itself rest on genocide perterated by the bloodthirsty and butherous Persians, Mongols and Afghans who started bloodshed in the erstwhile peaceful Indian subcontinent. The constant plundering and follow on migration of your forefathers created the basis of what now is Pakistan (and Afghanistan) in the 1100 AD period. Now that all these years of "training" is in the blood of the local population, with no where to go excecpt themselves or US/India – the results are for all to say. Pakistan is the goose that is cooking in its own fat accumulated over the years! Very sad for the common people, but a lesson from history that you get what you sow

      September 24, 2011 at 2:01 am | Reply
      • Let the peace come

        terrorists are everywhere actually they are in india as well for e.g. who demolished churches and burned a christians as well as an australian priest. bal thackery and BJP have extremist designs which will allow them to bleed the blood of innocent people like they did it in gujrat some time back please put these things in order and then talk about others i can quote several other incidents of terrorism in which innocent people were killed
        thanks

        September 24, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
  40. Derka Derka

    That of course was the US. The difference is we never go blaming others for our faults. The US is in no way perfect, but we try to right our wrongs. That is what makes us different.

    September 23, 2011 at 3:53 pm | Reply
    • Derka Derka

      That was to Awabnavi.

      September 23, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Reply
  41. Derka Derka

    Why are arabs such a bunch of sniveling babies. Why is everything always blamed on US/Israel? Who's fault was Lebannon? who's fault was Saddam's invasion of Kuwait? Whose fault was the Iraq-Iran war? Whose fault was constant fighting between India-Pakistan? Whose fault was the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan? Whose bright idea was it to attack israel multiple times (and get spanked each time)? Who was responsible for the Mumbai attacks? Who was responsible for the USS Cole, Madrid, London, Indonesia, Kenya and 9-11? I'm sure I have forgotten quite a bit.

    September 23, 2011 at 3:11 pm | Reply
    • murphy

      Well said...
      You can add at least 100 more such examples

      September 23, 2011 at 3:23 pm | Reply
    • EUGENE

      Derka, who ideas it was to blow up the uss liberty? Certainly not the arabs but Isreal, Americas' friend. You are bias in your convictions. The people of Palastine need a home land that Europe and America basically took away from them. How unfair are you as a person to not recognize the basic rights of the people of Palastine. As America crumbles, Isreal will have to face her deeds as a terrorist nation that does not cede to international laws. Why the IAEA cannot have access to Isreal's nuclear weapons. Derka go back under that rock you came from and take your Zionist pals with you.

      September 23, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Reply
      • Bill Duke

        Aren't you late for your Nazi party meeting?

        September 23, 2011 at 3:48 pm |
      • Derka Derka

        The Palestinians LEFT their homes. Why do people forget that?? They left so that the Arabs could invade Israel and wipe them off the map. Screw the Palestinians. By the way, what are the Arabs doing for the Palestinians anyway? Zero. The arabs just use the Palestinian cause as a reason to blame Israel.

        September 23, 2011 at 3:51 pm |
      • cellblock131

        Tell the "Palestinians", who are nothing more than displaced Jordanians and Syrians, to go back to their native lands. Oh wait, their homelands don't want them either? Who would of guessed.

        September 24, 2011 at 5:10 am |
      • CJ

        You are either a arab with a fake english name or a bleeding heart leftist europen who is already selling your country to islamists........ There never was a land called "palestine or a palestinain people". It was a name the romans gave and the british renamed and carved out........Learn your history.... The arabs are very good at distorting history for their bloodthirsty needs but the civilized world know all too well their tactics......

        September 24, 2011 at 5:14 am |
    • Awabnavi

      Who is supplying Israel the arms to kill Palestinians? Who killed millions in Korea? Who killed millions in Vietnam? Who dropped nukes on Japan? Who killed millions in Iraq? Who invaded, Panama, Haiti, Phillipines, etc.?

      September 23, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Reply
      • Derka Derka

        Just think of the destruction the Arab world would do if they just had the power. Thank god the era of fossil fuels will be ending in the coming generations.

        September 23, 2011 at 3:56 pm |
      • Roy

        You Cite Military combatants as victims. Anything to twist the facts huh?

        September 24, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • Ragesh

      Just a note.....who's fault was to train Al Qaeda and load them with heavy weapons ASK YOUR CIA FOR THE ANSWER......... who's fault is to SELL WMD WEAPENS to the entire planet earth.....Why you AMERI CANS only want to destroy & build nations for your own damn interests........ Russians went back from afganistan crawling in 10 years and now its Americans turn. that's why they have started blaming LEFT and RIGHT. BY THE WAY ALL AMERICANS SHOULD KNOW WHO WAS BEHIND STAGING THE FAMOUS 9/11 DRAMA (CHECK OUT WHAT MIT ENG. JEFF KING HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT) AND ALSO FAKE KILLING OF OSAMA JUST TO PUT PRESSURE ON PAKISTAN...........

      September 23, 2011 at 7:26 pm | Reply
      • Tewrobert

        Do you want to buy a 25 Karat golden gate bridge? Cheap?

        September 23, 2011 at 10:03 pm |
      • Roy

        ha ha wow. A crazy Arab who is throwing all his lunatic theories onto the table at once. Quite the risky movie, pilgrim.

        September 24, 2011 at 11:59 am |
      • Fred Phred

        Ragesh,

        you need to put that tin foil helmet back on before the CIA takes control of your mind with the special mind-altering beam they have. I mean once they know a smart guy like you who has all their schemes figured out, you just might be their #1 target.

        Check your cellphone, it may be tapped. Your house too probably.

        Computer.. definately hacked.

        Only go out at night.

        Develop secret handshakes so that you'll know who is good and who is not

        September 24, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
  42. HorseCentz

    India published a (yes public) intelligence report in 2000 explaining how Pakistan ISI and Al Queda were plotting against the west and foretelling attacks in the US. If we had listed to India we might have stopped 9-11.
    After 9-11 then President G.W. Bush said "You are either with us or against us." Unfortunately, he either did not understand Pakistan because he had bad intelligence, or he really underestimated their religious bias, their treachery, and their hatred of the USA.

    September 23, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Reply
  43. roger99

    I wonder how peaceful world would be if America didn't exist. How many deaths are caused by this terrorist country in this century from Vietnam to Afghanistan. People of USA should be ashamed of themselves for letting their politician do in their name. Pakistan had no terrorism until they get there after staging 911. Sad, you guys can't see that.

    September 23, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Reply
    • Balance

      Yes since u used it for ur own good against India

      September 23, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Reply
    • HorseCentz

      What a pant load. More lies from the religion of peace. Pakistan was almost as involved in 9-11 as Afghanistan and both the Taliban and Al Queda are mostly from the same Paki tribe.

      September 23, 2011 at 2:37 pm | Reply
      • Awabnavi

        Then WHY did you invade AFGHANISTAN instead of PAKISTAN if that was the case. FAULTY LOGIC on your part.

        September 23, 2011 at 3:51 pm |
    • E=MC2

      What a mindless remark. the U.S. has done more for world peace than any other nation in history. Lets look at the facts: Iraq- it invaded a sovereign nation Kuwait. the U.S and world demanded Iraq get out- they didn't the U.S responded with Allies. Iraq not invaded but asked to make agreement to disarm and retreat. iraq then goes on to continually shoot at U.S and coalition planes. After YEARS of patience, the U.S finally responds. Afghanistan- really do I even need to go there? One statement 9/11. Vietnam- it was a French problem yet the communists were attcking the South Vietnamese. The U.S came to their aid. We didn't invade. If the U.S. wanted to invade and conquer that war would have ended quickly and the U,S, occupy. That wasn't the goal. Because of political constraints at home, we left. No Vietnamese territory taken. Bosnia- we aided the MUSLIMS! Yet, Islamic nut heads hate America. Somalia- went there to try to stabilize and aid them. Bottom line- the only territory the U.S has taken in war is that needed to bury it's dead. If you want to look at territory taken and held/colonization look at European history then you have a lot to complain about. So, until you can actually make a fair assessment please keep your mouth shut and stop spreading unjustified statements that simply play into the hands of frustrated youths and failed countries. I'm sorry the U.S is so successful, yes even today, compared to 90% of the world and people from all over the world chose to come here and not other countries by and large. The is a very clear reason- it's called FREEDOM and WE WILL FIGHT ANYONE TO PRESERVE IT!!!

      September 23, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Reply
      • Mister Jones

        Well said, sir.

        September 23, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
      • EUGENE

        E=mc2, stick to math. Kuwait was the annexed by the colonial British empire. Check your facts, if the Saudis did not come to old man Bush, Kuwait would have been left to the Iraqis, after all it is their land.

        September 23, 2011 at 3:45 pm |
    • Fred Phred

      Oh of course..

      Pakistan kooks were just minding their own business and the big bad USA came along and made them the bad people they are today.

      Look, the majority of the Al Qaeda terrorists were found where? IN PAKISTAN!

      Quit trying to blow smoke, the people on this board aren't that stupid. Pakistan is the center of terror in the world. Some countries contribute to the world with innovation and forward progress. Others.. well they just want to live in the stone ages.

      September 23, 2011 at 2:50 pm | Reply
      • Let the peace come

        if Afghanistan was usa neighbour then terrorists must have been found in usa because you cannot control the afghanistan border at all. ISAF have miserably failed to control the taliban and if pakistan is sending them to afghanistan then i may say pakistan has defeated the ISAF in afghanistan single handedly hahahaaa

        September 24, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
    • Cal veteran

      The world doesn't seem to mind the TRILLIONS of dollars the US has given to humanitarian causes over the years. Think before you type.

      September 23, 2011 at 2:51 pm | Reply
  44. Bakro Chod NaPaki Beto

    US drone is tageting one cockroach. Remember if see one, there is a whole colony.

    September 23, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Reply
    • Cal veteran

      I guess we better build more drones.

      September 23, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Reply
  45. george

    Pakistan continues to fund terrorists inside its borders to keep the US involved because without the US in the vicinity, India might move in to take over Kashmir and Pakistan will have no chance of fighting off the Indians.

    September 23, 2011 at 11:54 am | Reply
    • fj

      george, what the hell are you talking about? india already controls kashmir. maybe you mean india invading pakistan in general? that definitely won't happen. india knows pak has nuclear weapons and will not hesitate to use them. has nothing to do with the US presence.

      September 23, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Reply
      • CJ

        The last thing india needs is 170 million more illiterate muslims....India has already given muslims pakistan and bangalodesh to get rid of them.... and it will be a pleasure to send the balance lot in india to anywhere.... so pakistan needs to worry only about afgan tribal hillbillies knocking at their doors asking for their daughters and wives.

        September 24, 2011 at 5:18 am |
  46. Neil

    Why is that in all terrorists attacks globally, whether it is in the US, London, Mumbai or even China, there is a direct Pakistani link? Probably Pakistan is best in exporting terrorism and blackmailing the global community.

    September 23, 2011 at 11:19 am | Reply
  47. Anthony4576

    What we (America) need to do is the following....

    Pull our troops out of Afghanistan/Iraq, and anywhere else in the Middle East and bring them home. All we are doing is inciting hate against us poking our noses around in their business, and creating more terrorists against us that are killing our civilians/troops, etc due to it. WE created them. Not to mention it would save us BILLIONS if not eventually (If not already) trillions that could be better served funding our ragged health care and dismal economy.

    Let's face it. The only reason America (Our politicians anyways) have any interest in the Middle East is their oil, NOT their people...which is just the front they give. Money and greed of money. Most politicians are oil tycoons after all. Coincidental? I think not. We need to worry about OUR problems here at home, like poverty, starvation, health care, security, the economy, illegal immigration, drug trafficking, our overcrowded prison systems, AMERICAN JOBS STAYING HERE IN AMERICA, the homeless , our dismal education system....need I go on why we need to do this all?

    September 23, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply
    • jim

      They do not value human life, and theirs should not be valued. They should be torchered and watch me bang their wives in front of them while a 9/11 family victim cuts off their fingers. I'd pay to be a part of that.. solve our debt crisis!!

      September 23, 2011 at 11:15 am | Reply
      • Anthony4576

        Well yes, I agree that I'd love to have 10 minutes with just one personally responsible for that cowardly act. But hate against them all due to it is ignorance.

        All I am saying is we did what we went there to do. We seriously damaged the Taliban and Al Quaeda...now it's time to get out. Let THEM decide their system of government and security. The longer we stay, the more they look at it as occupation and having other motives for being there through both speculation and assumptions, as well as through influence fueled by these fanatical extremists and just swelling their numbers to continue attack on our troops and on innocent people here at home.

        September 23, 2011 at 11:23 am |
    • alanseago

      Gad! I get so tired of people who write, as Anthony4576 did, that the US should withdraw from Afghanistan because the only reason the US is in the Middle East is oil. First, Afghanistan has no oil. Second, we are in Afghanistan because in 2001 Islamic forces based there attacked the US and killed 2,500 of our people. Third, ever since the later days of the Bush administration we have been withdrawing from Iraq, and under Mr. Obama we are continuing to do so. Fourth, prior to 9/11/2011 the US was the main influence maintaining an embargo of Iraq, preventing the sale of Iraqi oil. Not a policy one would expect if the primary US interest in the Middle East were oil.

      Of course oil is ONE reason why we are interested in the Middle East. Of course. To that extent Anthony 4576 is correct. But to say it is the only reason is ... naive.

      Perhaps the US should withdraw without delay from Afghanistan. Perhaps not. But it is not a simple question, and especially with regard to Afghanistan (as opposed to Iraq, Libya, Saudi Arabia, etc.), oil is not the primary concern.

      September 23, 2011 at 12:49 pm | Reply
      • Fred Phred

        Well said Alan.

        September 23, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
      • Anthony4576

        Maybe you should read what I wrote a bit better and comprehend. Yes, I said pull them out of Afghanistan...but I also mentioned about hurting the Taliban badly...which is why we were there, amongst other terror cells. I mentioned the oil for the Middle East portion of my post.

        September 23, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
      • Anthony4576

        And no @&*$ it isn't the only reason. I did an East Pac cruise in the U.S. Navy in 2000. Sorry I didn't mention all of it in a much longer post to satisfy you. I am aware we have been pulling out of Iraq...not quick enough IMO, I am aware we were attacked on 9/11...I was called to emergency General quarters on that day because I was in Photography school at Fort Meade during the attacks and they were worried NSA was going to be a target. Therefor, I am aware why we were in Afghanistan and Iraq.

        September 23, 2011 at 7:26 pm |
    • E=MC2

      Two words first Anthony- SHUT UP!!! Do a little reading before making such immature and knee jerk remarks. Ever wonder why most protests/riots involve youths? Because they believe so many lies put forward and have an unrealistic outlook on the world. Here's the facts: ALL NATIONS DO THINGS IN THEIR INTEREST -- ALL. the fact that the U.S has more clout is no reason to make it a target. Did/does the U.S support some pretty bad regimes? Yes! But it is not because we favor them, it is a simple matter of choosing the lesser of two EVILS. an you imagine a Middle East where all nations are like Iran? The world is a VERY complicated place and I'm sorry but you cannot 'wish" for it to be nice and pretty. Evil exists. Look at Japn in WWII. Look at the Soviet Union under Stalin. Look at China and Mao. If other countries did not intervene do you think the results of these monsters would go away because we "wished" them too? People tend to forget that the U.S is made up of.....well the worlds people. We encompase world views as our people come from all over. Do we make mistakes? Of course, but the intentions by and large are good. Cant say that about most nations! The U.S. has been in a tough spot for so long simply because we are so successful. We are damned if we do something AND damned if we dont. So, WE pick our fights and priorities and were sorry if they dont fit into others playbook. Never has ANY military wored so hard to limit civilian casualties. NEVER. Please look at history and compared the U.S to other nations and I think you will see, for a world power, this nation has done FAR more good than bad in this world AND this world would be MUCH worse off had there not been the U.S.

      September 23, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Reply
      • Anthony4576

        You don't say?!?! /eyeroll. I know all of that,. I just wasn't going to write a novel expressing it, I don't have that kind of time. Apparently you do.

        September 23, 2011 at 7:58 pm |
    • Cal veteran

      Afhganistan has oil now? didn't know this. I know they had black tar heroin, but oil, that's news.

      September 23, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Reply
      • Anthony4576

        I never said Afghanistan had oil. just mentioned we need to pull out of there. The oil comment was for the rest of the Middle East.

        September 23, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
  48. Dil Dil Pakistan

    Taliban.....9/11.....WMD.....OBL.......AlQaeda........2nd generation is learning a new name Haqqani Group.......Please grow up now.. dont repeat the mistakes over and over again Learn from it.....

    September 23, 2011 at 10:50 am | Reply
  49. MarineDad05

    I am not sure what exactly is wrong with Pakistan or it's people. From the posts here and in many other forums, all one comes across is some form of utter denial that there is something very wrong with the way Pakistanis think, act, and view the world.

    All they seem to be doing is blame everyone, hate everyone, hate all other religions, cheat everyone, and are hell-bent on spreading Islamic terror throughout the world. Their hatred has gotten so acute, that they often hate themselves, and go on daily bouts of bombing and killing their own kind.

    The US government should seriously consider stopping all aid to this hell hole. There is absolutely little hope for this god forsaken country. We are really wasting our time even thinking about Pakistan.

    September 23, 2011 at 10:20 am | Reply
    • fazal malik

      The solution is simple. Get the hell out this Muslim land like the soviets did in 1989. Who has authorized you Americans to invade a country and kill it's people. Where the hell is UN? Oh UN work for countries other than Muslim countries while it should treat all countries equally but the jewwwws will never let it happen. We are muslims and if 1 muslims suffers all other feel the pain too. Just leave our area other wise we keep on killing your troops.

      September 23, 2011 at 10:43 am | Reply
      • Ben

        The amount of Muslims that have been killed by US forces pales in comparison to Muslim on Muslim violence. Lets look at present-day Yemen, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Syria. Is the US creating the violence in these regions? How about the multiple suicide bombings we see in Pakistan each month that are done by Muslims and kill Muslims. Lets look at Zarqawi blowing up hotels in Amman...Muslim on Muslim. Lets go back in time and take a look at the genocides in Bosnia...Muslim on Muslim. Remember the massacre in Hama? How about the massacre of Kurds in Iraq? What about the Iran-Iraq war? How about the daily attacks against moderate Muslims in Afghanistan? Just a few days ago, Burhannudin Rabbani was killed by militants in Afghanistan. The point is that the Arab world has some serious issues to deal with. The Arab world needs leaders...not dictators, but leaders who have the balls to take responsibility, purge corruption and condemn extremism. The US leaving Afghanistan will have zero effect on the grand majority of day to day Muslim deaths.

        September 23, 2011 at 11:10 am |
      • Fred Phred

        I got news for you. We're in Muslim land because you can't mind your own business. You've got us invading Kuwait to protect Saudi and keep the world's economy stable. You've got terrorists hijacking planes and planning the operation from Afghanistan. When we ask to have the criminals turned over, the Taliban says "COME GET THEM". And when we do.. you complain!! What do you really expect? Clean up your own mess and we won't have to do it for you.

        So from now on quit taking a leak on the floor and then complaining when we clean it up – because you don't like how we do it. I'd rather you just cleaned up your own mess, or just said thank you

        So if you want the US out of Muslim lands, then learn this lesson – mind your own business and keep your kooks under control.

        September 23, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
      • David Cummings

        Who authorizes it? You fool it's your own governments and people who do. Open a history book.

        September 24, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • Nash

      That sums it up ! Well said.

      September 23, 2011 at 11:02 am | Reply
    • Nadia

      Marinedad, please don't generalize your statement to all Pakistanis. Make a visit to Pakistan and you will realize that most people are loving, kind people. It's because of poverty and lack of education, terrorists try to train future terrorist there. They promise these young kids and families hopes of food, clothing, shelter (basic needs people are desperate to get). Then they become brainwashed into thinking that they have to fight and kill for Islam, which is completely untrue. Just like here, recruiters for the military try to recruit people in poor neighborhoods. They promise these young men and women hopes of free education, traveling the world, and stable careers. How many rich people do you think join the military? Not many, and that's because they have other opportunities. Well these young recruits get brainwashed into thinking Muslims and some countries are "evil" so that they can put aside their humanity and kill..I mean fight wars. What it comes down to is that all wars need to stop and everyone's basic needs should be met. If we can help provide food, clothing, shelter, and even education to people who are poor, then you won't have terrorists and you won't have so much hatred.

      September 23, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Reply
      • MarineDad05

        @ Nadia

        Several things. In the US joining the military is a choice. We don't have a draft. Many kids, joined the military (like in our own family) right after 9/11. That was clearly out of their love for the American spirit of freedom and democracy. We are by no means poor nor rich, and am not sure what makes you think only the poor are recruited. Pat Tillman was a millionaire when he joined the military. Moreover, joining the US military is one of the best things. The military does not pay a great deal to the recruits. Most join for the love of country.

        There is no hatred for Pakistanis or Pakistan. If you have lived long enough in this country, you will have realized, that most Americans are some of the most trusting people one can come across. Unlike many other countries, they instantly believe what is told them.

        This is the reason why someone like Daniel Pearle got beheaded in Pakistan. Now, you tell me, which modern country does this? Something is really wrong. Pearle, like most Americans trusted you Pakistanis, and for that he was beheaded.

        Why did 2nd generation Pakistanis in Britain take the need for blowing up London buses and killing people? These Pakistanis got the best out of the British system of tolerance and help, and yet they thought it was best to carry out a terror attack against the country that took care of them.

        And even in the US, a Pakistani wanted to bomb Time Square, but was caught. What exactly did America do to him - other than let him work in a Wall Street firm?

        Similarly, Pakistan has sent terror outfits to Mumbai. In the hotel, the terrorists specifically targeted Indians and Westerners. In the Jewish Center, they killed the Jews.

        This may be problem not just with Pakistan, but of your religion, Islam. While most people in the world don't really care what religion one is from, America has mostly been very open in allowing all religions to practice any religion freely. Can this said of Saudi Arabia?

        I can go on and on, there are many examples.

        So, Nadia, this is really in the hands of Pakistanis. Pakistanis have to make the world believe and trust it. They cannot be carrying out terror acts around the world, and killing foreigners in their own country, and hiding terrorists like OBL in Abbbotabad, and expect the world to suddenly start trusting them.

        Pakistan, would need a huge make-over. And that needs to be initiated from Pakistanis in these forums, and from educated Pakistanis. They need to start thinking about their country and how they can get it back in the world body of nations.

        By the way, there are many poor countries. Take Costa Rica: Unemployment 10%. Things are still expensive. But Costa Ricans have pride, and they have a back bone, and the don't beg.

        Pakistanis ought to take object lessons from countries like Costa Rica. And Pakistan needs to get it's act together.

        September 25, 2011 at 1:46 am |
  50. Barry G.

    Since 9/11, the U.S. has given Pakistan $15 billion.

    What did we receive? And what are we getting for this money?

    I can think of some better uses for $15 billion dollars, like feeding the hungry children, which includes many Americans, due to the current state of our economy.

    September 23, 2011 at 10:06 am | Reply
    • U-Bad

      you must check your facts again ... Pakistan has lost $70 billion in this stupid war what the hell $15 billion going to do.... American needs to get out of Afghanistan they are not winning this any way ...

      September 23, 2011 at 10:19 am | Reply
      • Balance

        What 70 billion.....GDP of pakistan is 140 billion.....are u serious ..dont make numbers if u dont know what they mean

        September 23, 2011 at 11:18 am |
      • Fred Phred

        You're funny my friend.

        We're not there to "win" anything. We're there to remind you of what happens when you don't control your kooky muslim friends. We kick in a few doors, we make a general nuisance, and we set your country back 10 years. We're not there to win anything, it's like winning a bag of dog poop. There is nothing of worth there. We don't care who wins or who loses.

        This is a punative measure that you've earned. A simple reminder of what happens when you want to let your kooky muslim friends get out of control. Don't kid yourself, there's nothing to win. We win by seeing how angry you get and reminding you of what happens if you keep messing with us.

        September 23, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
  51. Barry G.

    If Pakistan is supporting the Haqqani network, should we not be holding Pakistan accountable, rather than giving them billions of dollars in aid?

    September 23, 2011 at 9:51 am | Reply
    • mj

      Actually 15 billion is not aid, it is the reimbursement for deployment of their troops and also the payment for letting our supply pass through Pakistan. Congress calling it Aid because they don't want to count the money as the war expense.

      September 23, 2011 at 10:11 am | Reply
  52. Ali

    Peace for everyone , Bring the american troops home. Let Afghanies decide their future , Leave Pakisan alone so they can rebuild their economny which has been destroyed so many times ( 80s against soviet war & now taliban war ) trying to defend the interest of our so called friend american. Start the war next to you border and then you will know how it will affect you

    September 23, 2011 at 9:47 am | Reply
    • Cali veteran

      The war was brought to our border 10 years ago on september 11th. We do not forget, we do not rest, and we will not stop until ALL that were responsible have paid a price.

      September 23, 2011 at 9:55 am | Reply
      • U-Bad

        you are an idiot to think it this way... 911 was a sad day but killing almost 400,000 civilian over this ... lets not forget all the money that is being spend on this .. pure crap

        September 23, 2011 at 10:31 am |
      • Fred Phred

        Sept 11. We remember. Let this be a lesson to those who want to try it in the future. Calivet, I salute you.

        September 23, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
      • death

        freddy along with cali vetty...sorry you are bankrupt...you are despised by majority of this world and soon death is coming for you...

        September 23, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
      • Cal veteran

        Bring it!

        September 23, 2011 at 2:54 pm |
      • Fred Phred

        Death, you would be surprised how much money I still have. And we have the most capable people in the world like Cali Vet to protect us. I sleep very well at night. Watch out, that red dot on your head just might be a laser pointer for the next drone missle. The funny part is someone might mistake you for a Hindu just as you die.

        September 23, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
  53. JACK

    WE NEED TO WIPE OUT PAKISTAN AND PALESTINE BY NUKES THIS IS THE EPICENTER OF TERRORIST CENTER AND TRAINING CAMPS OF TERRORIST CENTER. STOP THIS DAM AIDS TO THEM. OUR CORRUPTED POLITICIAN IN WASHINGTON MUST BRING FIRST JUSTICE. THOSE WHO GAVE AND WILL GIVE AIDS TO BOTH COUNTRY IS BIGGEST TERRORIST IN USA.. BECAUSE OF THAT MONEY OUR UNIFORM MAN AND WOMEN DIE IN WARS. G O D B L E S S A M E R I C A.

    September 23, 2011 at 9:28 am | Reply
    • mj

      Those terrorist were created with our money, If pakistan is a terrorist country then we all are terrorist as our money made them the fighter they are, to beat Russia. Don't forget they were the freedom fighters during Russian war and the economic stability and position we enjoy in the world was becasue of them. Why Pakistan is not help US in this fight is because of our alignment with India and India's influence. Imagine how you feel like if Mexico or Cananda become a French proxy.

      September 23, 2011 at 10:00 am | Reply
      • melvinslizard

        All the more reason to stop sending them money and offer to send Hellfire missiles, instead (business end first!)

        September 23, 2011 at 10:25 am |
  54. How much can the US handle

    How many different terror groups will the US take care of, how much can the US afford on the 'war against terror', how many US soldiers shall commit suicide?, why should the innocent soldiers, and innocent women and children in Pakistan suffer as a result of defending US interests?

    Does the US have unlimited amounts of money??, will China constantly offer US more money to continue this war on terror (LOL)

    September 23, 2011 at 9:14 am | Reply
    • Cali veteran

      The US soldiers have volunteered to take on this challenge. We don"t want another 9/11. Let us worry about us, we are grown men and women.

      September 23, 2011 at 9:59 am | Reply
      • melvinslizard

        and, while we're at it, let's let our soldiers and marines take the gloves off and FIGHT TO WIN!

        September 23, 2011 at 10:26 am |
      • death

        sorry lizard but you are bankrupt...and soon there will be no support for your faggy marines in afghanistan...death is coming to you all!

        September 23, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
  55. Jack

    If Pakistan cannot keep its house clean then they need to have someone else take care of it. Pakistan is as two faced as a country can get. The Chinese is involved in the background and perhaps Russia as well. If Pakistan does not choose to stop the attacks in Afghanastan then the US needs to put a stop to it by whatever means required.

    September 23, 2011 at 8:35 am | Reply
    • Matt

      Just follow the money. If the fight would stop. PK's main money would dry up. With us being there and asking for their help we have increased their GDP. The war is the only money maker they have.

      September 23, 2011 at 8:50 am | Reply
      • Ali

        for you kind information , pakistan has lost billion of dollar in economy trying to protect america interest , leave afghan problem with afgani to sort , leave pakistan alone so they can rebuild their econmony which has been destroyed so many times ( soviet war and now against taliban war) , Pakistani wants to live in peac and want peac for everyone in world , Please don't give us any money and leave us aloneee pleaseeeeee and if you are really keen in fighting start war next to your border and then you will know how it feel

        September 23, 2011 at 9:40 am |
    • melvinslizard

      Ali-
      You complain that Pakistan has lost $1 Billion as a result of the war without acknowledging the $15 Billion that we've given your sh1thole country. While we're at it, let's look at what your total lack of self control and integrity has cost the US while we try to sort out YOUR MESS! This taxpayer is tired of listening to Paki lies – the ISI are all pigs that lick the spit of my shoes.

      September 23, 2011 at 10:34 am | Reply
      • death

        sorry lizard you are bankrupt...soon you will have no shoes...get it from the chinese...but pakis are already licking chinese boots LOL!

        September 23, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
  56. glu

    STOP THE WARS!!!! BRING HOME THE TROOPS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

    September 23, 2011 at 7:27 am | Reply
    • holdem

      send more troops....much much more!

      September 23, 2011 at 8:13 am | Reply
      • George

        You first. Other will follow. No? Thought not. It's alwasy easier when it's other who do the sacrificing.

        September 23, 2011 at 8:35 am |
    • Cali veteran

      When the job is done, the troops will come home. It is unamerican to leave a job unfinished. History has taught us if you do not exterminate the vermin they will be emboldened.

      September 23, 2011 at 10:01 am | Reply
  57. glu

    These qucking wars are a lost cause, bring the qucking troops home now and man the border with the real enemy, Mexican drug lords and illegals.

    September 23, 2011 at 7:25 am | Reply
    • Cali veteran

      Can't use Federal troops domestically. Sorry not that simple.

      September 23, 2011 at 10:02 am | Reply
  58. shaukat

    The poor american generals are trying to find an excuse for their leader to show some progress in the afghan fight so that he can win next election.
    I am afraid american policies and their foreign office is just going for an escape goat. Improve your own performance then maligning your allies. We want you out of our region. You are the cause of millions of deaths over the last 50 years.

    September 23, 2011 at 6:38 am | Reply
    • LoveAmerica

      Shaukat: Continue keeping your head in the sand. When you wake up you will figure out who the real losers are. Your country will cease to exist in not too distant a future. Start dreaming abont another name for your nationality (the despised Pakistanis).

      September 23, 2011 at 6:52 am | Reply
      • Usman

        You should feel pathetic about American government, Who represent you because what they did in Iraq was Mass Killing and what they are doing in Afghanistan is even worse! Its called INVISIBLE PASHTUN GENOCIDE! (Killing Pashtun in Afghanistan, Manipulating Pakistani corrupt politicians to kill Pashtun in Pakistan, Creating disputes within the Pakistani tribes to ignite a war on Pashtuns. etc..)
        You must rethink about evil and corrupt American Government. Hold them accountable for their sins and bring a revolution in America.Hence help in stopping the Genocide of the beautiful people of Afghanistan and NWFP of Pakistan.
        Thanks

        September 23, 2011 at 7:29 am |
      • babablacksheep

        the united states is the same country from which the influential U.S. Congressman, Charlie Wilson (who helped to direct tens of millions dollars to the Afghan resistance in the 80s) was once so enamored of Haqqani that he referred to him as "goodness personified". Now, suddenly he is a terrorist...liars, cheats and petty thieves...please go on youtube and search for "confessions of an economic hitman" for some additional insight into the true nature of united states' government...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8...self confessed by its people...now you decide, will such nation survive for long? By God, the US will soon be bankrupted and eradicated...

        September 23, 2011 at 7:59 am |
      • Michael

        Usman,
        Afgan pashtun love dancing boys.
        Pakistanis are evil.

        September 23, 2011 at 8:34 am |
    • Matt

      Afghanistan should belong to the Tajik's.

      September 23, 2011 at 8:54 am | Reply
    • Cali veteran

      Shaukut,
      If the US and Israel up and left the middle east alone there would still be wars raging. Shia vs sunni, this tribe vs that tribe. its in your DNA. don't blame us.

      September 23, 2011 at 10:04 am | Reply
      • Westerner

        @Usman. Even when we leave you will ALL still fight and kill each other. It's how you live and have lived for thousands of years. Shite vs Sunni vs Kurds vs Tajiks vs Pastun vs India, etc etc. Oh sorry forgot Lebenon and Iran too, sorry. The only trait your people posses with more vigor is conspiracy theories, victimization! Poor victims of everything and everyone. Always talking about crusades and zionists in your Arab/ Islamic land. Funny thing is, the Arabian peninsula is small and far from where a lot of Arabs and Muslims live and rule now. Gee how did you get so far from the Arabian peninsula? Quit listening to all to all your imams who love to brainwash simple minded fools like yourself

        September 23, 2011 at 10:33 am |
    • melvinslizard

      go eat a porkchop, deuchebag

      September 23, 2011 at 10:36 am | Reply
      • melvinslizard

        this was directed at Shaukat

        September 23, 2011 at 10:37 am |
      • fazal malik

        Centuries ago when illicit children were so in large numbers in Britain they brought ships and took those illicit children to a land where they grew and now they are called white americans. this is your history...........america is country of prostitutes and pornstars only with ethical and family values. Sons sleeping withe mother this is america.

        September 23, 2011 at 10:48 am |
      • Cal veteran

        If you say so Fazil.... I bet you would be the first to go to one of our strip clubs though. The strip clubs in Deerborne are full of "pious muslim" men. And the jails have there fair share of muslim men arrested for soliciting prostitutes (male and female). Go figure.

        September 23, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
      • LoveAmerica

        Fazal MALIK: AND WHAT IS YOUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY? CAN IT LOOK BEYOND 64 YEARS? DOES IT HAVE A CULTURE THAT IT CAN CALL ITS OWN?

        THE "ILLICIT" CHILDREN YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR NOTE ARE THE LEADERS IN SCIENCE, EDUCATION AND CULTURE. THEIR PHILOSOPHY OF A FREE SOCIEITY IS BEING FOLLOWED BY THE WORLD OVER. THEY PRODUCED THE LARGEST NUMBER OF NOBEL LAUREATES.

        HOW MANY PAKISTANIS CLAIM THAT FAME? WHY IS IT THAT THE PAKISTANIS IN OUR COUNTRY TRY TO HIDE THEIR NATIONALITIES AND CALL THEMSELVES INDIANS? WHY ARE THE PAKISTANIS ASHAMED OF THEIR ORIGIN?

        September 25, 2011 at 10:12 pm |
  59. Viktar

    Haqqani network is being defeated by Inqtel and Skaugen under the HUSH flag. Didn't know that? Google: inqtel piracy

    September 23, 2011 at 6:38 am | Reply
  60. Noman

    Loosers always come up with excuses...

    September 23, 2011 at 5:41 am | Reply
    • glu

      and morons always spell loser wrong.

      September 23, 2011 at 7:28 am | Reply
  61. Dil Dil Pakistan

    Another day another excuse 9/11.... WMD.....OBL...... now Haggani Group............USA needs to grow-up and should look into the mirror for Answers what the mes they have created for their generations to come ..... as insane Robert Dinaro said in film the Taxi driver.... Do you want to Kill me.

    Good Luck........We are waiting for you to make the Move

    September 23, 2011 at 4:24 am | Reply
    • toenail

      America didn't create Pakistan's mess. Pakistan did. Islam has mastered the art of "sloping shoulders" – it is the defining characteristic of that religion – "God Willing"!

      September 23, 2011 at 6:12 am | Reply
      • babablacksheep

        .the united states is the same country from which the influential U.S. Congressman, Charlie Wilson (who helped to direct tens of millions dollars to the Afghan resistance in the 80s) was once so enamored of Haqqani that he referred to him as "goodness personified". Now, suddenly he is a terrorist...liars, cheats and petty thieves...please go on youtube and search for "confessions of an economic hitman" for some additional insight into the true nature of united states' government...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8...self confessed by its people...now you decide, will such nation survive for long? By God, the US will soon be bankrupted and eradicated...

        September 23, 2011 at 8:01 am |
    • LoveAmerica

      Dil – Your terrorist country and society are doomed. You are despised by the whole world. Your sixty some years of history will be a short one.

      September 23, 2011 at 6:41 am | Reply
      • babablacksheep

        you are sooo mistaken...ignorance is not bliss in your case...it is the americans that are despised by the majority of this world...the only reason most don't speak is because the US has a gun to their head...but the americans are bankrupt now so soon enough this gun will be replaced by merely the fist of the bully...and at that time, this bully will surely get a tough tough beating from a big big crowd...just wait and see...the united states so called fall from grace, wait... you had no grace to begin with...

        September 23, 2011 at 8:09 am |
      • melvinslizard

        It'll take a lot more than a recession to turn this American's gun into a fist, dildildo

        September 23, 2011 at 10:51 am |
  62. Asfandyar Ali

    Pakistan is already fighting terrorists who are conducting suicide bombings all over Pakistan every other day & the US tells Pakistan: no leave them & use those resources to fight Haqqani's who are harmful for the US. Haqqani's are not conducting bombings in Pakistan, why should Pakistan pick a new enemy? Our Government might have been enslaved to American wishes, however our army is not at the government's level of enslavement. They'd rather look after Pakistan's interest than destroy Pakistan for US interests. At this point in time, Pakistanis anti-US sentiment has reached that level(after what the US has done, killing more than 100,000 people in Afghanistan & Iraq) where they'd love to fight against the US, even if they get killed than fight anyone else.

    September 23, 2011 at 3:52 am | Reply
    • LoveAmerica

      Keep on producing more terrorists and more suicide bombers in your madrassas and watch your country implode. You will not need USA or any other country for your destruction. Pakistan will have a short history! 64 years is too long yet.

      September 23, 2011 at 6:46 am | Reply
  63. Mikaa

    The Americans are simply looser in this game now they are looking to escape from Afghanistan and as per their history before they leave they destroy the country which has helped them in the war. Combodia is an example. But this time they will get a real lesson when they leave

    September 23, 2011 at 3:49 am | Reply
    • Asfandyar Ali

      By the Grace of Allah, they will.

      September 23, 2011 at 3:54 am | Reply
      • Dennis

        Allah has no grace.Neither do you.

        September 25, 2011 at 11:15 am |
    • LoveAmerica

      Continue keeping your head in the sand. When you wake up you will figure out who the real losers are. Your country will cease to exist in not too distant a future. Start dreaming abount another name for your nationality (the despised Pakistanis).

      September 23, 2011 at 6:49 am | Reply
      • babablacksheep

        well...well...america is doomed for good as well, just look at what is happening...infighting republican vs democrats; rich vs. poor, no jobs, unemployment 20%, population severely under debt, no faith, no hope, soon the demise of dollar, real estate market ka boom...but yet have to keep spending...spend spend spend on military up keep and murdering nations across the world , how long will it last...remains to be seen...

        September 23, 2011 at 7:26 am |
    • melvinslizard

      I know, right? How much DO WE HAVE TO SPEND before we kill all you wankers? Just give me the number and we'll write that check today!

      September 23, 2011 at 10:53 am | Reply
      • death

        sorry lizard but you are bankrupt...get more money in from chinese!

        September 23, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
  64. Fawad

    Fact is that USA had more casualties in Afghanistan this year than any other year yet US declared victory earlier this year. Now US economy is in shambles and three countries are already destroyed in the name of helping them. USA (The most powerful and advanced military in the world) has lost this war and they are blaming Pakistan which is a very resource constrained and less technologically advanced and equipped army (just like US blamed Combodia when the lost Vietnam). All pointless nonsense and propaganda war. Now they will attack and destroy Pakistan and the then Iran?

    Where does it stop?

    September 23, 2011 at 3:42 am | Reply
    • babablacksheep

      Fawad...the united states is the same country from which the influential U.S. Congressman, Charlie Wilson (who helped to direct tens of millions dollars to the Afghan resistance in the 80s) was once so enamored of Haqqani that he referred to him as "goodness personified". Now, suddenly he is a terrorist...liars, cheats and petty thieves...please go on youtube and search for "confessions of an economic hitman" for some additional insight into the true nature of united states' government...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8...self confessed by its people...now you decide, will such nation survive for long? By God, the US will soon be bankrupted and eradicated...

      September 23, 2011 at 7:49 am | Reply
    • Dennis

      It is spelled Cambodia,not Combodia.Get a brain.

      September 25, 2011 at 11:18 am | Reply
  65. James

    Probably the only people instigating here are Indians

    September 23, 2011 at 3:19 am | Reply
  66. AJAMAL KASAB

    Yes it is true we fooled CIA since 9/11 so that's mean we are too superior than jack aas Americans Lol!

    September 23, 2011 at 2:02 am | Reply
    • MarineDad05

      But you still can't go without begging us for your yearly budget.
      Pakistan has no shame, and no backbone.

      Does Pakistan produce anything else other than terror outfits? It has become the world's eyesore.

      September 23, 2011 at 8:13 am | Reply
      • death

        eyesore? The region is more than that...graveyard for everything american...marines, seals, dolphins whales you name it...

        September 23, 2011 at 8:47 am |
  67. Hammad

    DREAM will never come true of Amerian govt or its so called its . Having a route from afghanistan to pakistan through Baluchistan to warm water having the same old failed Russian strategy.after having killed thouands of innocent civilian both in pakistan and afghanistan then how come they be loyal to invading country. emotions of different countries heads r very well shown in recent UN general Assembly about US .

    September 23, 2011 at 1:13 am | Reply
  68. What happened to Gratitude?

    Pakistan doesn't deserve a single good thought

    September 23, 2011 at 1:08 am | Reply
    • Fawad

      Coming out of a sick mind of yours

      September 23, 2011 at 3:44 am | Reply
    • Fawad

      and I wish you were born in Pakistan.

      September 23, 2011 at 3:45 am | Reply
      • karthik

        Fawad, you definitely cannot bear someone damaging the reputation of your country, but the extremists from your country are damaging the lives of other country people, you have the anger being injected into your thoughts, first golden rule of life, never blame others for all of your situation, there are people who are good and people who are bad from every relegion,country and society in this world, As an Indian, even after watching my nation suffer from several attacks due to the extremists from your nation,I still say not every Paki is a terrorist, but extremisim has to be controlled at any cost by your nation someway, there are people who suffer for a day meal even in my country as well as yours, its wise in spending time to enhance their lives than filling up minds with anti-Indian or anti-American ideologies.

        September 25, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
    • haroldwolf

      Distroy Pakistan's nukes and then help India distroy Pakistan.

      September 23, 2011 at 6:34 am | Reply
  69. Richard

    Mullen was rather blunt, in plain speak I read it as: ISI aids the Haqqani network and apparently even helps them with logistics and preparations for operations. The Haqqani network has been attacking United States interests as well as our troops directly. Pakistan has to choose between continuing to have ties aiding these terrorists or open conflict with us.

    September 23, 2011 at 12:58 am | Reply
    • Rationale

      1. Haqqani network is just an excuse. Excuse to hide incompetence or to attack another nation; only time will tell.
      2. Haqqani network is just another name for Taliban. Till when will we play with terms and names??

      September 23, 2011 at 3:10 am | Reply
    • Fawad

      You mean a network of 2 – 3 thousand people with AK-47 and few low grade rocket launchers can put US Military, the most technologically advanced military (with 150,000 troops in Afghanistan) in trouble?

      September 23, 2011 at 3:48 am | Reply
      • Dennis

        The U.S. is not in trouble,idiot.We know Pukeistan is harboring terrorists because it is a terrorist nation itself.Go make a bomb and blow yourself up.And have a slice of bacon before you do.I have a wad for Fawad!

        September 25, 2011 at 11:23 am |
  70. amust

    didn't CIA actually created all these networks in the first place. and now all anti pakistani element within and outside are bent on destroying Pakistan. Pakistan did not start terrorism, it was started by CIA trained operative and now got out of control, destroying Pakistan daily, and keep US busy with conuter terrorism and killing innocent children. if all CIAs of the world are banned from the face fo earth, all the ISIs, haqqanis, militant outfit will be without the training and funding from CIA of US, India, iran, saudis, afghans, russians, and Chinese and peace may prevail on earth.

    September 22, 2011 at 11:29 pm | Reply
    • A

      If Pakistan was fine about CIA creating these militants then why does Pakistan have any problem when CIA starts destroying it? They should be happy. pakistan should pay US for this and not the other way round.

      September 23, 2011 at 1:03 am | Reply
      • Fawad

        Its more complicated than your sophisticated mind can comprehend.

        September 23, 2011 at 3:59 am |
    • Fawad

      Amen brother.

      September 23, 2011 at 3:49 am | Reply
  71. InfidelHere

    Enough of the MUSLIM "ransom" payoffs our country calls forgien aide to these ISLAMIC hell holes!! The most significant contributor to Islamic terrorism is Pakistan, where the dictatorial government of these Muslims are Salafist....some of the most devoted and worse practicing Muslims the earth produces. Pakistan's mosques and madrassas have manufactured more actual terrorists than an ISLAMIC arm pit like Saudi Arabia.

    They are responsible for the Taliban – the fundamentalist regime associated with al-Qaeda. Taliban chief Mullah Omar was educated in the Binori Mosque Madrassa in Karachi. The head of Pakistan's ISI intelligence service, Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad, not only provided the funds, arms, and direction to the Taliban, he and they provided direct wire transfers to Muhammad Atta, the 9/11 ringleader, immediately before he murdered 3,000 Americans. Pakistan is the home of Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Shaikh Muhammad, the men many believe conceived the first and second World Trade Center bombings.

    That’s right, there were TWO Islamic attacks on the World Trade Center by…wait for it…wait for it…MUSLIMS!

    September 22, 2011 at 9:56 pm | Reply
    • ukt87

      Good observation about 2 attacks but I what I want to know how in the heck they knew that US fighter pilots were on a military exercise on 9/11 ? And what was CIA doing when they had prior information about the attacks.

      September 22, 2011 at 10:43 pm | Reply
      • Richard

        The 911 commission's report is available as a free download in portable document format online. I suggest you download it and read it as it has rather detailed answers to some of the questions you posed.

        September 23, 2011 at 1:00 am |
    • Raheel

      "Pakistan, where the dictatorial government of these Muslims are Salafist" - Wow!!! You don't even know that dictatorial govts in Pakistan are NOT Salafist, they are Secular if I say the least. If your basics are incorrect what to talk about your Judgement. Go and read a few newspapers first and then comment.

      September 23, 2011 at 2:59 am | Reply
    • Fawad

      Yeah, rite! The Axis of Evil is now Pakistan. Next will be some other Arab country. What the hell is wrong with your nation of "Call of duty" players?

      September 23, 2011 at 4:01 am | Reply
      • haroldwolf

        Nuke them all and let God sort them out.

        September 23, 2011 at 6:36 am |
    • Anti-terrorist

      For too long, political correctedness has dictated that the world refuse to acknowlege publicly what everyone admits in private – Islam is an extremist religion that will not let others live in peace. The only solution is to wipe out all adherents of the religion. And the US will do well to start with Pakistan.

      September 23, 2011 at 7:26 am | Reply
  72. David

    They have to go after the haqqani network inside Pakistan .......just like they did when they took out Osama...... ISI will continually train, support Haqqani netwirk in their proxy war. The thing i don't get is that the US knows the ISI and Pak army are supprting the Haqqani network that is attacking our troops...and we give billions of dollars and get no results.....stop giving them money.......send the billions to people living in tents outside large cities, provide money to uninsured Americans or veterans, give money to first responders (fire,NYPD, paramedics) that are getting cancer and have no recourse for treatment, give money as scholarships so students can attend colleges and universities. Why give billions to Pak generals and ISI that dont support our country? Let Pakistan become the next Somalia....... let the their be strict Islamic law like the stoneage days......we should get out of the Terroristran and let China and india take care of it

    September 22, 2011 at 8:39 pm | Reply
    • Mauripur

      US does not "GIVE" billions of dollars to Pak. All that money is bribe to ISI, army, and Pak politicians. Not a single cent goes to Pakistanis. And most of this money comes back to US politicians in the form bribes/lobby. USA should fight its own war, and let them find some other supply route to Afghanistan.

      September 22, 2011 at 8:54 pm | Reply
      • LoveAmerica

        We give alms (call it bribe) to Pakistan, because we need access to Afghanistan. Unfortunately, Afghanistan is landlocked, and Pakistan and Iran are the only 2 countries that have access to Afghanistan from the Arabian Sea. Now if the CIA is smart, it can create direct access to Afghanistan via the Pakistani province of Baluchistan which has a long coast on the Arabian Sea and shares border with Afghanistan. Baluchistani Freedom fighters have been fighting for their freedom from Pakistan for years. It will be mutually beneficial to help the Baluchi Freedom Movement.

        September 22, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
    • LoveAmerica

      We give alms (call it bribe) to Pakistan, because we need access to Afghanistan. Unfortunately, Afghanistan is landlocked, and Pakistan or Iran are the only 2 countries that have access to Afghanistan from the Arabian Sea. Now if the CIA is smart, it can create direct access to Afghanistan via the Pakistani province of Baluchistan which has a long coast on the Arabian Sea and shares border with Afghanistan. Baluchistani Freedom fighters have been fighting for their freedom from Pakistan for years. It will be mutually beneficial to help the Baluchi Freedom Movement.

      September 22, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Reply
      • Rationale

        Need to get to Mexico, lets cut off New Mexico

        September 23, 2011 at 3:14 am |
      • umer

        what about husband of sarah palin, he was also fighting for alaska `s freedom...

        September 23, 2011 at 3:47 am |
    • Fawad

      If you want your aid money back, please go to Switzerland and check Asif Ali Zardari's (your guy) bank account. You are welcome to take it back.

      September 23, 2011 at 4:03 am | Reply
  73. Brutalism

    My orange cat has fleas. To hell with Pakistan.

    September 22, 2011 at 8:02 pm | Reply
    • BA

      to hell with u and ur cat.

      September 22, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Reply
      • LoveAmerica

        Baluchi Freedom fighters have been fighting for their freedom from Pakistan for years. It will be mutually beneficial to help the Baluchi Freedom Movement.

        September 22, 2011 at 10:23 pm |
    • Fawad

      You went to flea market from your trailer park with your cat, thats why. Screw u!

      September 23, 2011 at 4:05 am | Reply
  74. djse

    It's about time.

    September 22, 2011 at 7:57 pm | Reply
  75. RB

    The Pakistani armed service is the worst excuse for military, which is a predominant reason why US is leading counterterrorist operations in their OWN COUNTRY. They don't have the capabilities to conduct operations unilaterally. They couldn't locate Haqqani network members if they were on their front door step...

    September 22, 2011 at 7:54 pm | Reply
  76. MarineDad05

    Just saw the Wolf Blitzer interview with the Pakistani foreign minister.

    Ms. Khar would for the life of her could not positively state that the Pakistani government was not supporting and possibly helping the Haquani group.

    Every time Wolf would ask her, she would keep saying Pakistan too is being attacked by terror outfits.

    Ms. Khar is still learning the ropes of international diplomacy. Some months ago, it seems she caused an uproar in India when she was seen with Cavalli sunglasses and a stylish Hermes-made Birkin bag worth at least $9,000.

    She probably would be more at home with those accessories and rather be in Cannes or Monaco, then in some boring international diplomacy 🙂

    September 22, 2011 at 7:25 pm | Reply
    • umer

      she lacks the skills...pakistan put wrong person on an important job...

      September 23, 2011 at 3:50 am | Reply
    • death

      practice makes perfect...the US govt officials have been consistently lying to the world for generations...of course it will come natural to the lot...whereas the paki chick is new...but death is coming for you all...

      September 23, 2011 at 8:53 am | Reply
  77. FUCK ISLAM

    HEY DAVID -- FUCK YOU TOO!!! I'VE BEEN TO THAT SHIT HOLE. IT NEEDS TO DISAPPEAR

    September 22, 2011 at 7:08 pm | Reply
    • gorgon bilyas

      hey FUCK YOU dirty cock sucker. ur shit hole will disappear. u cock sucker

      September 22, 2011 at 9:26 pm | Reply
    • Fawad

      Go back to rehab, kid!

      September 23, 2011 at 4:06 am | Reply
  78. Roy ussery

    What do American's citizens fear? Attacks by Islamic extremests. Where are the Islamic extremists? The extremists would use a nuclear weapon on America ... if they had one.

    September 22, 2011 at 6:47 pm | Reply
    • LoneWolf

      I disagree the Americans fear themselves for the power that we hold in this world. We fear ourselves abusing the power and driving everyone against us.

      September 22, 2011 at 6:49 pm | Reply
    • David

      They do have nukes.... Pakistan has nukes....the ISI supports the Haqqani network and jihad outfits.... it is a matter of time before the Pakistan supported outfits get a hold of nuclear material

      September 22, 2011 at 7:31 pm | Reply
      • sean

        hello this is not a James Bond movie. wake up if it was that easy America could have destroy Afghanistan long time ago. If it was a hollywood, Rambo could have done it for you long time ago. Those are nukes you can't run with it

        September 22, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
    • Jal Mian

      Wake up Buddy! There are only Christian extremists in the World who use nuclear bombs (USA on Japan) and lies like Weapons of Mass destruction and Twin towers to attack impoverished and humble but CIVILIZED Muslim countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention Libya. And now that USA is getting kicked worse than in Viet Nam in Afghanistan it wants to pick up quarrel with another Muslim country called Pakistan with whom it has been fooling around and attacking with drones like cowardly like true Christian terrorists while falsely professing to be its ally.

      September 22, 2011 at 8:01 pm | Reply
  79. George

    My sources tell me that Rick Perry, once elected president, will take care of Pakistan and Afghanistan his first week in office. Rick is coming for you.

    September 22, 2011 at 6:45 pm | Reply
    • LoneWolf

      Who exactly are your sources?

      September 22, 2011 at 6:47 pm | Reply
    • Pacman

      Bed time little Georgy, it is 7PM and you know the rules.

      September 22, 2011 at 6:57 pm | Reply
      • vescio

        yes, the rule is to fk yourself you ugly paki

        September 22, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
      • Pacman

        Vescio, hope that you are not rabid, may want to go get yourself checked.

        September 22, 2011 at 8:11 pm |
      • vescio

        Pacman. hope that you are not a cancer; may want to get yourself amputated

        September 22, 2011 at 9:18 pm |
      • Fawad

        Geory! Go to bed NOW!!!

        September 23, 2011 at 4:08 am |
    • MarineDad05

      Well, I don't think so. Republicans did not get rid of OBL, it was Obama. What makes you so sure Rick is going to do any better than GW?

      September 22, 2011 at 7:28 pm | Reply
      • LoveAmerica

        GW was a simpleton, surrounded by scoundrels. Rick is no smarter than GW – but is a fake. Hope he will be no where near the White House. God help US if Rick gets the presidency!!

        September 22, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
    • umer

      u should start eating healthy...stay away from greasy stuff...

      September 23, 2011 at 3:52 am | Reply
  80. LoneWolf

    I think the US needs to pull away and forget about the middle east. The US economy is plumetting. The US dollar use to be worth a lot but nowadays its worth nothing. Obama needs to realize that if we keep helping others we wont be able to help ourselves.

    September 22, 2011 at 6:41 pm | Reply
    • LoveAmerica

      Pakistan is not Middle East! Check your geography. Also if you let this terrorist nation be on its own, it will continue training and nurturing more OBLs.

      September 22, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Reply
      • Malik

        OBL was the Product of CIA u are good at geography but u need to work hard on History.

        September 23, 2011 at 12:24 am |
      • LoveAmerica

        Malik, don't be an ostrich. You know the madrassas in your country produces thousands of terrorists – the potential OBL's. Look at your own country and the mess you are creating for yourselves a little closely. Your country Pakistan is doomed by any measure.

        September 23, 2011 at 6:29 am |
  81. Reasonable1

    These double dealing Pakistanis can not be trusted. Almost all the terrorism in the world has Pakistan based roots. We are fortunate to have leaders like Mullen and Panetta who are boldly stating hard facts without sugarcoating and demanding some real actions from these ingrate Pakis.

    September 22, 2011 at 6:30 pm | Reply
    • AvidObserver

      When the Sandinista issue arose, the US 'helped' fight terrorism there; The Iran-Contra affair was a clear fight against 'terrorism' by the US; Vietnam was definitely a fight against "Communist terrorists"; When Blackhawk went down, the US was actually fighting terrorism in Somalia....one can go on and on and on....and not find a common thread, except for the US.

      And oh...btw: The Bay of Pigs was an attempt to fight Cuban terrorists...and more recently the smuggling of arms across the Mexican border is clearly a fight against Mexican terrorists!!

      September 22, 2011 at 6:41 pm | Reply
    • Fawad

      and what are your sources?CNN, ABCNEWS, Fox? The propaganda machines against Muslims..

      September 23, 2011 at 4:11 am | Reply
  82. KillemAll

    To hell with the UN. Just plant a quarter mile strip of land mines along the Pakistan/Afghanistan border. Problem solved. No more running back and forth across the border.

    September 22, 2011 at 6:20 pm | Reply
    • AvidObserver

      Soviets tried that...it didn't work. Till today (almost 20 years on) civilians, NATO troops, UN aid workers and others step on thos 'lovely gifts' that remind us "Russia was here"!

      September 22, 2011 at 6:46 pm | Reply
    • haroldwolf

      Bomb the passes to close off the major routes and mine the minor ones.

      September 23, 2011 at 6:41 am | Reply
  83. Pacman

    Muslims, murder, muslims, murder, muslims, ah whatever.

    September 22, 2011 at 6:08 pm | Reply
    • Fawad

      Pacman is brainwashed.

      September 23, 2011 at 4:11 am | Reply
      • Fawad

        Pakistanis are non practicing Muslims (95% true). Americans are non practicing Christians (90% true I guess) but we are blaming the stuid stuff we do on each others religion. Strange!

        September 23, 2011 at 4:14 am |
  84. radgast

    personally I see this region as an extension of afghanistam, instead of 150 troops it should allow 150 thousand troops in, that would catch the taliban off guard.

    September 22, 2011 at 6:07 pm | Reply
    • AvidObserver

      One can set loose one million soldiers...but you can't catch a movement, a concept, a lifestyle 'off guard'. It's like saying...flood Vietnam with 10 million GI's, use a million tonnes of cluster bombs, Agent-Orange their fields and rice paddies...that will catch them off guard and help crush Communism.

      Anny bad idea/movement will only be killed if people of good conscience cultivate good ideas in their place. Unfortunately, all parties embroiled in that battered land have only bad, worse and terrible ideas on how to get rid of the Taliban.

      What we need there is an honest broker to play a lead role. South Africa? China?

      September 22, 2011 at 6:28 pm | Reply
    • umer

      who would take care of that many troops?

      September 23, 2011 at 3:55 am | Reply
    • Fawad

      Personally, I see you need to go back to school.

      September 23, 2011 at 4:15 am | Reply
  85. American842

    Thing is even though pakistan won't do anything on the offensive at all, we keep giving them big money. Ridiculous.

    September 22, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Reply
  86. gigaNET

    ONE country has problem with rest of the world. Quite easy to guess. But why most of the countries has problem with USA?

    September 22, 2011 at 5:11 pm | Reply
    • Pacman

      Jealousy and feelings of inadequacy.

      September 22, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Reply
    • LoveAmerica

      The countries which have problems with USA are jealous of its wealth and achievements. The world has problem with ONE country – that is the epicenter of terrorism – Pakistan.

      September 22, 2011 at 8:04 pm | Reply
    • Fawad

      Well said!

      September 23, 2011 at 4:15 am | Reply
    • 2011cnn2011

      I think its called jealousy

      September 25, 2011 at 8:18 pm | Reply
  87. gigaNET

    why stupid Indians show up in any news related to Pakistan & act like a dumb f*ck?

    September 22, 2011 at 5:08 pm | Reply
    • David

      So you must be a Paki then? Paki's just cant get over the fact they lost Bangladesh (East Pakistan) and worry about what India is up to. How about educating your population, modernizing your economy, elininating poverty and becoming a counrty that contributes meaningful to the world? .... Instead of being the epicenter for terrorism, supplying and training jihadists from all over the world, prolilefarating nuclear technology to America's enemy ie North Korea ...... When America cuts off funding which will happen....where will Pakistan go with its begging bowl.... you guessed it China.....

      September 22, 2011 at 7:41 pm | Reply
  88. FUCK ISLAM

    MY NAME SAY'S IT ALL

    September 22, 2011 at 4:58 pm | Reply
    • ABdul

      because you are really a big ass hole nobody says nothing to the religion their are big time mother fuckers in every religion but do not assume everybody same remember you motherfucker.

      September 22, 2011 at 6:16 pm | Reply
      • David

        Are you one of them ? Quit using profanity and grow up Jackass

        September 22, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
  89. FUCK ISLAM

    Just nuke that whole shit hole and start over

    September 22, 2011 at 4:57 pm | Reply
    • Realtor From Green Land

      Thats the name of my Elder Brother and All of NY knows that white Chiks love him , may be he has the bigger tool than the average Americans. Ans all those white hoties says i wish I FUSK ISLAM

      September 22, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Reply
  90. Mike kerns

    Who are the Taliban? Answer. A terrorist organization trained, funded and supported by Pakistan to destabilize Afghanistan a historical enemy of Pakistan.

    September 22, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Reply
    • Canadians

      Taliban initially funded and trained by US to fight against the Red Army, once the red army was defeated they were just left abandoned and they started fighting with each other.

      September 22, 2011 at 5:35 pm | Reply
      • AvidObserver

        By way of a brief history lesson, the Taliban were indeed trained, armed, equipped and supported by the CIA using Osama Bin Laden and the Pakistani spy agency ISI as proxies to fight the US cold war with the Soviets (search online for Zbigniew Brzezinski's famous "... because your fight will prevail and you'll have your homes and your mosques back again, because your cause is right and God is on your side." speech to the Taliban here: http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/29/cp.00.html)

        The Taliban are also the same group that, for more than 10 years now have been fighting the US occupation of Afghanistan.

        They are indeed the very same group, who recently (earlier this month) received unconditional approval from the Whitehouse to now set up an embassy in Qatar (one of the staunchest allies the US has in the Middle East). Check out http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/taliban-office-in-qatar-approved-by-us/story-e6frg6so-1226135168019

        I guess by US standards, they are the 'Good Terrorists!"

        First friend...then foe...now friend again! That's the result of clear and unambiguous US foreign policy for ya!

        September 22, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
      • Canadians

        @AvidObserver
        Good Job, you know what u r talking abt, I hope people so some research before barking online.

        September 22, 2011 at 6:17 pm |
      • ensence

        You are fooling no one, the Mujahadin were trained by CIA that includes the northern warlords. The Taliban were a creation of Pakistan in the chaotic Afghani world after the soviet withdrawal, and it was solely created by the ISI to create a vassal state in Afghanistan more in tune with Pakistani strategic views.

        September 22, 2011 at 6:37 pm |
    • Andy

      Your real name is Mullah Karnullah.Why keep Mike Kerns

      September 23, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Reply
  91. Vikrant Singh

    Pakistan, a country being run be headless chickens!!!!!

    September 22, 2011 at 4:20 pm | Reply
    • Canadians

      Look who is talking a Towel head.

      September 22, 2011 at 5:04 pm | Reply
      • Mike kerns

        @Canadian singh is a sihk Bo a towel head you should remove your head from you're a$$

        September 22, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
      • Babu Khan

        Name calling with not help Pakistan. It is time we wake up and smell the coffee otherwise it will be too late.

        September 22, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
      • LoneWolf

        Just shut up and admit your life wouldn't be what it is if it wern't for us Americans. The US has protected you while you sit at home and sit and think nothing in the world could happen to you

        September 22, 2011 at 6:36 pm |
      • LoveAmerica

        Sorry Canadian (ashamed of calling yourself a Pakistani – I understand very well). Please use this forum with dignity. The world knows to what level Pakistanis have degraded themselves. Try not to mimic them.

        September 22, 2011 at 8:14 pm |
    • Realtor From Green Land

      And this head less Chiken love to bang India

      September 22, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Reply
      • ensence

        And America loves to bang Pakistan with drones.

        September 22, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
  92. Nadal Martin

    Americans are clearly playing a game which even a dumb person can work out. Their crow has always been white. They just want to destabilise and pressurise pakistan for thier stretegic gains and de-nuke pakistan by claiming its unstability which they are trying best for. Its the start of another film like 9/11, Iraq's nukes, Afghanistan, death of Osama in Pakistan, what next....

    Nadal
    Norway

    September 22, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Reply
    • Mullah Fullah Bullah

      Do you truly believe that? All countries act in their best interest and luckily for you you and whether you like it or not are protected by the umbrella of American actions. I am truly tired of it. People like you ragging on Americans. Hopefully soon we will cut back all our military and leave countries like yourselves to ponder why things are in such turmoil once we no longer play the role of mercenary.

      September 22, 2011 at 4:14 pm | Reply
    • Canadians

      Your are absolutely right, final part of the game is to push Pakistan on its Knees. Ordinary Americans are so ignorant that they would understand that biggest enemy for US is US.

      September 22, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Reply
      • Canadians

        *that they would never understand that biggest enemy for US is US.

        September 22, 2011 at 5:10 pm |
      • Fred Phred

        It's funny how the Spanish used to say the same thing. Then the Madrid bombings happened.

        They don't talk like you anymore.

        And some in the UK used to say the same thing. Then July 7, 2005 happened.

        They don't talk like you anymore.

        It must be nice to live in Canada and think it's never going to happen to you.

        September 22, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
      • Babu Khan

        You never attended a school. Picked up from Madarchod and shipped to Canada.

        September 22, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
      • ensence

        Fred dont waste your breath, the canadian is not a real canadian. but a pakistani with a canadian passport, with loyalties in pakistan.

        September 22, 2011 at 6:41 pm |
      • David

        @Fred Phred ....... Canadians is a Paki....anyways they did try to blow up Canada .....the Toronto 14 or something like that were planning to attack Toronto the candian parliament...... intelligence thwarted the plan and these terrorists are locked up for good........

        September 22, 2011 at 8:19 pm |
  93. shy

    what the f is realllllllly goin on to many politic snotn in secret free the weed i think and eat better il even relax me ya powder got ya hyped as hell relax smoke weed chew it do somthn

    September 22, 2011 at 3:43 pm | Reply
  94. rao

    Pakistan lost forty thousand civilians and ten thousand army men in fight against terrorism and still Pakistan is not in good books of Americans,wonder how many more lives America wants to acknowledg Pakistan effort/sincerity on fight against terrorism. And mind you this was not Pakistani war in first place

    September 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Reply
    • Fred Phred

      Yes, Rao it is your fight. Your country is out of control and you expect everyone else to bail you out. It's the center of the problem, you just don't want to admit it. I have Paki friends who won't even go home because they have to hire armed guards. They tell me it's chaos. Take the blinders off and man up. The US is tired of being the janitors of the world when countries don't want to clean up their own mess.

      September 22, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Reply
      • Let the peace come

        the war against terrorims has brought heavy toll for every one and still no one is talking about how to bring end to this menace pakistan has paid heaviest price but still people doubt its intentions i am not blaming Aghanistan but this contry has been in war for the last 40 yrs or so and is a ripe place for the people who like bloodshed and pakistan which is her neighbour gets screwed by all and sundry. if problems in afghanistan are not fixed terrorism will continue to thrive and we will keep blaming each other, only discussion and dialogue is the way out

        September 22, 2011 at 6:03 pm |
      • Fawad

        The fact is the the People of USA and the People of Pakistan want to have a good and prosperous life. The so called religious and political leaders from both sides are the evil guys. The kid of poor gets killed always whether its a recruit in US army or a poor guy trying to make ends meet working in Pakistani army or people in poor neighborhoods. All are exploited and the rich and powerful prosper.

        September 23, 2011 at 5:23 am |
    • Michael

      Pakistn is the wholesale dealer of terrorism. It hurts them, still they do it. What they do is for money; they are not whole hearted allies in the war on terror. Again, as the genie has gone out of the pot, it is the needj of Pakistan to bottle it up. Else Pakistan will be like Somalia and it will be the the eternal breeding groung for terrorists.

      September 22, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Reply
      • Fred Phred

        Rao,

        Most of the big name Al Qaeda terrorists were caught where again? Israel? No.. that would be Pakistan. So you have to ask yourself why is that?

        And the thing that's the funniest part of all is when we blow them up or swoop in and capture them, Pakistan is furious!!! "Yes... We were just gonna arrest that guy". No... you mean you were going to tip him off and give him safe passage.

        Wake up and decide what kind of country you want to live in. One that adds to human history or one that destroys it. I think I know the answer already.

        September 22, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
      • 2011cnn2011

        nuke pakistan

        September 25, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
    • Canadians

      It seems that Pakistan’s foreign policy is made by 5th graders or there is no one in Pakistan that has IQ level of greater then 5th grader. Pakistan needs intellectual in establishment ASAP.

      September 22, 2011 at 5:14 pm | Reply
    • Realtor From Green Land

      Rao thats just the creating Scnerao to spread the resons of defeat that we was not defeated by Just the Taliban its Pakistan And ISI also involved in it. 10 years and still on what you expect from them, Any ways Pakistan is lucky it has a very good friend China so we need to bump this excess baggage ASAP before it declare bankcruptcy.

      September 22, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Reply
    • Patrick

      The truth is that Pakistan plays both sides against the middle; they appease, disavow and then fund terrorist groups and then try to hide and protect them from the US. The trouble with having a snake for a pet is that they have no loyalty and will bite as the mood seizes them. I’ve also noticed that mooslum countries study the kueerann but know absolutely nothing about the real world…All of those people need to cure their mental disease but sadly they are simply too incompetant.

      September 22, 2011 at 7:54 pm | Reply
      • LoveAmerica

        Pakistan plays both sides, because they are smart. The only source of their national wealth is alms from the US tax payers. Stop the terrorism, and US stops aid. It's in Pakistan's interest to proliferate terrorism.

        September 22, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
    • djse

      And the sad part is the Paki army and ISI still don't get it and they supporting these groups. and you guys still live in denial.

      September 22, 2011 at 9:12 pm | Reply
  95. ron

    Assfuck Kayani?

    September 22, 2011 at 3:10 pm | Reply
    • Fawad

      and you.

      September 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Reply
      • Canadians

        Ron won't mind that.

        September 22, 2011 at 5:14 pm |
  96. Tzckrl

    Just wondering why CNN is not reporting Adm. Mike Mullen's assertions of ISI involvement in the Kabul USA embassy and Inter-Continental Hotel attacks? Pakistani military and intelligence agency directly supporting terrorist networks in attacks against the USA. BBC, NY Times reporting this, why the CNN blackout on this? Also, why nothing on the Wall Street protesters? (If they were tea partiers ALL the media would be all over it.)

    September 22, 2011 at 3:05 pm | Reply
    • Fawad

      CNN picks and chooses stuff that caters to their needs too. How else can all the media proliferate Islamophobia effectively.

      September 22, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Reply
      • Kayani

        Moslems do a good job of propagating Islamophobia. Nobody else needs to do that.
        Where ever there is a conflict, atleast one side is Moslem. or most other times Moslems killing each other.

        September 22, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
  97. bailoutsos

    CIA targets Haqqani terror network -- Are the Haqqani related to the fierce Hekawi tribe?

    September 22, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Reply
    • Tzckrl

      No, but they are related to the Fuqqawi. Who're the Fuqqawi, you ask? Well, that's the existential question, isn't it?

      September 22, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Reply
      • Guru

        That's Fuqqawing Hillawious.

        September 22, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
    • Matt

      They are more tajik.

      September 23, 2011 at 8:55 am | Reply
  98. David

    United State of america and NATO why not stoping the HAQQANI and other group in boarder area.why they let thm allow in to the Afganistan?In my poient of this is a huge mistake of NATO and US if they attack in pakistan.because they could not control in 10 year TALIBAN in Afganistan.But they r making new ENIMY.......its just ...lol

    September 22, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Reply
    • AvidObserver

      David....the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is a hundred times more tricky, treacherous and difficult to patrol than the border between the US and Mexico. Despite that, drugs flow freely (some say like water) from Mexico, and guns flow freely from the US through the US-Mexico border, not only fuelling the drug war there, but also contributing to the killing of Mexican and US citizens and law enforcers.

      There is no easy way to patrol the US-Paki border. If there was, first the Russians (in 10 years) and now the US (last 10 years) would have done it a long time ago.

      Sad, but true.

      September 22, 2011 at 6:19 pm | Reply
1 2

Leave a Reply to INDIA IN REALITY


 

CNN welcomes a lively and courteous discussion as long as you follow the Rules of Conduct set forth in our Terms of Service. Comments are not pre-screened before they post. You agree that anything you post may be used, along with your name and profile picture, in accordance with our Privacy Policy and the license you have granted pursuant to our Terms of Service.