September 9th, 2011
09:40 PM ET

Scramble to connect dots in new terror threat

By Sr. National Security Producer Pam Benson

Analysts are working 24/7 this week at the National Counterterrorism Center, sifting through databases for connections to a possible threat of an attack on New York or Washington around the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

"Some people have not gone home who are working on this," a counterterrorism official said Friday.

Experts are reviewing variations in names - names that might be fragments or aliases, but are enough to run through their computer systems in an effort to glean more information about the possible plot, which is believed to involve a vehicle-borne explosive device.

As analysts pore through travel records trying to find out if any suspected terrorists have entered the United States, they take the fragments of information they have - names, countries, dates - to narrow down nationality, country of departure, timeframe of travel and any contacts the suspects might have had en route.

The NCTC works with other members of the intelligence community to run down leads and information is exchanged.

"A fair amount of questions are being posed both from us and to us," the counterterrorism official said.

One of the reforms implemented at the NCTC after a failed attempt to blow up a Northwest Airlines commercial flight to Detroit on Christmas Day 2009, was to create pursuit teams to follow up on leads. The center was criticized at the time for not putting together a variety of clues that might have prevented suspect Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab from getting on the plane - the so-called failure to connect the dots. People with specialized expertise are brought in to analyze the new data.

Reviewing information already in the data bank is an essential part of the investigation, according to an intelligence official.

"Does the old stuff make sense now that we have new material to work with," said the official, adding, "we see it with a new perspective."

Analysts try to see if patterns exist that might help determine whether a plot is real and provide law enforcement with the information it needs to stop it in its tracks.

Interpreting threat information is a difficult challenge, officials say.

The intelligence official said terrorists "talk in code to each other - they are cryptic," and don't necessarily use their real or full names. Nothing that might be overheard by a phone or computer intercept, or even by a trusted source, can be taken at face value or considered complete. Everything has to be run on the ground.

But 10 years after the 9/11 attacks, the official maintained that the intelligence community is better prepared.

"We are more alert all of the time, we collect more, we look at more, we put the pieces together differently, because of what we have learned."

That said, intelligence officials often use the analogy that intelligence is like trying to put together a picture puzzle with thousands of pieces, however there is no cover to tell you what the picture actually should look like.

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  1. C.Cantu

    Just by watching any Middle East TV station and listening to any Muslim cleric any stupid can connect the dots. Most Muslim clerics from the Middle East are in joy celebrating the 9/11 attack. Anyone watching and listening to their rhetoric in any Middle East TV station can tell they are in joy celebrating the 9/11 attack and praying to Allah for another attack to America. As followers of the immoral conduct and evil actions of their Prophet Mohammed we can expect the worst coming from these creatures. Islamic clerics are the main instigators of all the violence, hatred, terrorism, resentment, vengeance and discrimination around the world. Their distorted morality and lack of basic universal ethical and moral standards are the weapons of mass moral destruction.

    September 12, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Reply
  2. rajeev

    The New Surveillance Society: How "Community" Policing Follows Your Every Move

    A new notion of "community policing" has emerged, where monitoring communities has taken the place of solving crimes.

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    Ten Years Later: Surveillance in the "Homeland" is a collaborative project with Truthout and ACLU Massachusetts.

    Surveillance now is everyone's business, as the line between intelligence-gathering and crimefighting rapidly fades and the public is conditioned to play its part.

    The work of Deputy Police Chief Michael Downing of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) exemplifies the new surveillance paradigm. The head of the 750-strong counterterrorism force within the LAPD, he is on the hunt for "people who follow al-Qaeda's goals and objectives and mission and ideology." He says his officers collect intelligence and practice the "essence of community policing" by reaching out to Muslims and asking them to "weed out" the "hard-core radicals."

    He adds that he is pleased that many Muslims have adopted the LAPD's iWatch program and are prepared, along with the general public, to call in tips about suspicious activity. With "violent Islamists" as his main target, Chief Downing is also keeping track of "black separatists, white supremacist/sovereign citizen extremists and animal rights terrorists." If threats materialize, he can draw upon the LAPD's "amazing" backup capacity – SWAT units, direct-action teams, air support, counterassault teams and squads that specialize in disrupting vehicle bombs.

    Here we see several of the components of the new surveillance society. A militarized police force no longer leaves intelligence work to federal authorities. It seeks out information about anything that can be connected to "suspicious" activity and is keeping track of certain individuals and groups whether or not there is evidence that they are engaging in criminal activity. Police are expected to chase down unsubstantiated tips from the public, and not just to pursue evidence of wrongdoing. A new notion of "community policing" has emerged, where monitoring communities – with all the trust issues that this implies – has taken the place of winning community support by being accountable to residents and solving crimes.

    The LAPD is one of some 3,984 federal, state and local agencies now collecting information about "suspicious activity" that could be related to terrorism. The Washington Post's "Top Secret America" series states that 854,000 people now hold "top-secret" security clearance. We estimate that's about one for every 215 working-age Americans. An additional 3 million people reportedly hold "secret" security clearance.

    The federal government spends more annually on civilian and military intelligence than the rest of the world put together – $80 billion is a conservative figure, according to the October 28, 2010, Post. This is in addition to the $42-plus billion allocated to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the spending on intelligence activities by the LAPD and other state and local police forces. The homeland security industry is flourishing, with lucrative contracts being awarded to Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Boeing, Northrop Grumman and other major defense contractors.

    What exactly is being built with these funds?

    The "Information Sharing Environment"

    Essentially, the "total information awareness" assumption that the nation can be made safe by applying advanced technology to massive databases has been married to the call for a "unity of effort in sharing information" issued by the bipartisan 9/11 National Commission. The commissioners had recommended a fundamental change in how the nation's 16 intelligence agencies carried out their business. They urged that the "need to know" culture be replaced with a "need to share" imperative, with information being transmitted horizontally among agencies, not just vertically within agencies. They further recommended that the FBI be equipped to assume prime responsibility for domestic intelligence-gathering, that it incorporate a "specialized and integrated national security workforce," and that it form collaborative relationships with state and local police for this purpose.

    To construct a new domestic surveillance network, the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 mandated the creation of an Information Sharing Environment (ISE) under the director of national intelligence. Defined as "an interrelated set of policies, processes and systems," ISE was intended to facilitate the sharing of terrorism-related information with stakeholders at all levels of government and the private sector. Eventually, foreign governments are supposed to be brought into the ISE loop. The ISE requires the standardization of information systems and technology to provide access to the burgeoning number of databases that serve as its connective tissue, the enlistment of mission partners across federal, state, local, and tribal agencies and the private sector to keep the databases supplied with the information that is its lifeblood, and the use of "analysts, operators and investigators" from "law enforcement, public safety, homeland security, intelligence, defense and foreign affairs" to extract, analyze and disseminate timely intelligence.

    Fusion Centers and Suspicious Activity Reports

    The nerve centers of the ISE are the nation's 72 regional and state fusion centers, which were in part a response to the FBI's reluctance to share threat information with state and local law enforcement because of turf and security clearance issues. With considerable variation in what they do and how they do it, fusion centers were established over the past seven years with DHS funding to "fuse" and analyze information from a wide variety of sources and databases and facilitate information-sharing among themselves through the FBI's eGuardian database. The secretive fusion centers represent a significant departure from traditional law enforcement objectives and methods, with few legal limits on what they can and cannot do, little respect for long-established jurisdictional boundaries between local, state, federal, military and private entities and a notable absence of accountability mechanisms. Given the scarcity of domestic terrorism plots, it is not surprising that most fusion centers almost immediately changed the focus of their data collection from fighting terrorism to a broad "all crimes, all hazards" mission. Many now use federal counterterrorism funds to collect, store and share data that has little or no relation to terrorism and, often, no relation to actual crimes.

    According to DHS head Janet Napolitano, along with fusion centers, the Nationwide Suspicious Activity Reporting Initiative serves as the "heart" of the government's effort to keep Americans safe from "homegrown terrorism." The idea behind the initiative is to collect as much data about anything "suspicious" that just may (or may not) be related to criminal activity. Or, to quote the government's own alarmingly broad definition: a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) is "official documentation of observed behavior that may be indicative of intelligence gathering, or preoperational planning related to terrorism, criminal, or other illicit intention."

    SARS programs, piloted by the LAPD, Boston and a handful of other cities, vary from place to place and are often in competition with one another for federal dollars. Today some 800,000 state and local law enforcement officers are encouraged to file SARs on even the most common everyday behaviors, such as looking through binoculars, taking pictures of buildings, taking notes in public and espousing "radical" beliefs.

    The ISE program manager recommended that SARs are reviewed within the police department before being sent to a fusion center for further review by an intelligence analyst. If it "meets SAR criteria," it is then entered into the ISE for wide distribution and "fusion with other intelligence information." But a January 2010 evaluation of the ISE and National SAR Reporting Initiative has shown little uniformity in how SARs are being collected, vetted and shared, and how much personably identifiable information is being aggregated and disseminated through the fusion center network and sent to the FBI’s eGUardian system, which is now serving as "an ISE/SAR shared space." In an effort to address criticisms voiced by civil liberties groups, ISE adopted a policy requiring that only behavior indicating some kind of connection to criminal activity or terrorism should be shared among federal intelligence agencies. But this civil rights protection does not apply to sharing by state and regional fusion centers.

    A New Policing Paradigm

    In addition to writing up SARS, police departments, often working directly with the FBI through its multi-agency Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs), sift "tips and leads" provided in field reports, through public tip lines, by private entities, by confidential and anonymous sources, or culled from media sources. Time that used to be spent investigating reasonable suspicion of criminal activity is now allocated to assessing randomly collected information to decide whether it is credible enough to be deposited in the Information Sharing Environment (ISE) and sent to the FBI’s eGuardian database for preliminary analysis before being sent to fusion centers for further analysis and wide distribution.

    When local police work with the FBI in JTTFs, they become federal officers who are no longer under the supervision of and accountable to their local departments and communities, and instead must act in conformity with the FBI's guidelines on domestic investigations – regulations that are now so loose that they allow agents to conduct "assessments" involving monitoring of meetings and people, infiltration of groups, and personal interviews with no suspicion of wrongdoing – some 11,667 assessments were conducted just in the four-month period beginning in December 2009, with only a fraction leading to full investigations. And when local police participate with fusion centers in information collection and the building of personal files about activities that can be wholly innocent and may be constitutionally protected, they are integrated into a domestic surveillance network that is national in scope, beyond accountability, and far removed from community policing and public trust.

    In the process, the line between traditional crimefighting and terrorism detection has been erased and something new has been born: a concept of policing that is no longer primarily reactive and focused on solving crimes or on collecting concrete evidence that a crime might be about to be committed. In "predictive policing," local police officers serve as a resource for gathering information on a range of potential threats and situations on the assumption that criminal activity can be stopped before it develops. They are trained to use advanced technologies and tools, including powerful surveillance cameras provided through DHS grants, to monitor broad sections of the population, looking for indicators of future crimes before they are committed.

    When the net is cast so wide, everything and anything begins to look like "terrorism-related activity," forcing police officers to waste time checking out dead-end tips. It is not surprising that leaks from fusion centers have revealed that files compiled on individuals and groups are full of inaccurate information and focus on activities that may be both entirely innocent and constitutionally protected.

    Constitutional lawyer Bruce Fein, a former associate deputy attorney general in the Reagan administration, told Congress in 2009 that fusion centers and SARs were worthy of the Soviet Union's KGB and East Germany's Stasi, and should be abandoned: "To an intelligence agent, informant, or law enforcement officer, everything unconventional or unorthodox looks like at least a pre-embryonic terrorist danger."

    http://www.alternet.org/story/152346/the_new_surveillance_society%3A_how_%22community%22_policing_follows_your_every_move/

    September 10, 2011 at 10:01 pm | Reply
  3. cher

    humberto,humberto,humberto. your all over the map. there are so many opionions, i don't know which one to pick. WOW

    September 10, 2011 at 9:12 pm | Reply
  4. local yocal

    Hey everyone – look how important we are... Our jobs are the most important!! Right – you are most likely making up things to tell the rest of us how much you are needed.. We do pay a lot of money to Homeland... So you have to prove your worth to Congress so they won't reduce funding... It BS I'm sure

    September 10, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Reply
    • Wzrd1

      A post about the intelligence community from one who has never benefited from intelligence or even possesses intelligence.

      September 10, 2011 at 3:53 pm | Reply
    • humberto

      Common sense dictates, the mistrust and hatred is real enough in your lifetime and maby the next, if there is no mutual understanding other than war.
      Especially when there is no real participation in an understanding of the truth by either community by constantly redefining the understanding by one party to get over on the other after it was settled .

      September 10, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Reply
  5. RON PAUL 2012!

    RON PAUL Я Ξ √ Ω ♪ U T ↑ ☼ ♫!!!!

    September 10, 2011 at 2:31 pm | Reply
    • Buzz

      Perhaps,, See my post to julianpenrod below.

      September 10, 2011 at 3:20 pm | Reply
  6. JohnD

    Connect the dots. US/Mexican power outage shortly before 9/11. Surveillance and ground detection out. All kinds of nasty stuff could have been smuggled into our country. Mexican border patrol and customs is a joke they let everyone in. I really hope I'm wrong and nothing is going to happen.

    September 10, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Reply
    • humberto

      If you so care about Mexico why don't you take your F-150 with all your guns and do something.. and good luck.

      September 10, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Reply
    • Wzrd1

      Erm, border control points have this neat new technology. It's called a generator. Just for when the power IS interrupted.
      Eyes and ears still work without electricity. Portable detectors still work. The computers still work, since the generators are running.
      One employee at the power company screws up and it's a national emergency or something! PANIC! BATTERIES DO NOT WORK WHEN THE POWER LINES ARE DEAD.
      Grow a set.

      September 10, 2011 at 3:55 pm | Reply
  7. julianpenrod

    Historically, when the solution of a problem is found, often an appeal to the truth behind a situation helped. Too, when the solution to a problem was not found, untruths about the situation had been treated as truth. Also, it has been opined that there are quite a number of people who willingly allow themselves to lose all sense in the face of fear, and that you don't always need a majority to seize political power, just a dangerously unstable plurality. The "war on 'terror'" demonstrates these and many o\ther facets of New World Order machination.
    In all that accompaniedx Spetember 11, it was consistently ignored just what "terrorism" means and implies, with the constant emphasis on fear, outrage and bloody retaliation against anyone, just to see someone die. But what is "terrorism"? Many, if not most, Americans would say obligingly that "terrorism" is "Muslims wanting to kill all Americans". Primarily, it is traditionally defined as a tool of political change. But, as with all tools, there is one proviso. It has to work! "Terrorists" aren't just carrying out attacks to up their score! They want something to happen! And, if that is the case, that means that, if something doesn't happen, they change their tactics! The fact of the matter, though, is that "striking fdear into the hearts of the enemy's populace" is at best a weak means of effecting change. The m,ilitary are the ones who strike back, in force and well armed, and they are trained to laugh at threats to personal safety! And any threats to their civlian loved ones they would see as just another "excuse" to ramp up their Lariam laced bloodlust even further! And to think that a threat to the citizenry would prompt politicians to change at least corporatist Western govenrments is so tragically laughable as to be all but depraved. Government destroys more citizen lives in a year from having the FDA fail to issue warnings on phramaceutical house poisons than "terrorists" have in a century! To government, the "rank and file" are "beasts of burden" to make them and their cxriminal corporate cronies rich! "Terrorists" not striking politicians and corporate heads in huge numbers shows little if any likelihood of succeeding in changing political processes. And, the fact is, any disaffected masses around the world know this! They knboiw that poiliticians laugh at "rank and file" being harmed the way Enron executives laughed about little old ladies not being able to meet hiked electricity charges and having to sit in the dark!
    "Terrorism" as it has been practiced in the past decades has consisted of random, mostly civilian, never political or high placed corporate, targets, widely spaced in time. There are those who seem to think that Osama bin Laden actually thought that a "terrorist" attack on the tenth anniversary of September 11 wouild bring Amefica to its knees. They seem just as delusional as those who thought al Qaeda felt that bringing down the Twin Towers would shatter America completely. But operatives of the New World Order know that you don't need a majority to seize power, only a plurality of the inherently irresponsible and craven. And, despite the fact that they have yielded no change politically, and even resulted in a supposed dove Democrat taking on policies of a hawk Republican, they continue! The events of supposed "terrorist" violence that have transpired even before September 11 bear no resemblance to what genuine terrorism would be. They have all the earmarks of a program of continued harassment of society by a criminal organization intent on maintaining a state of fear of a nebulous, completely invisible "enemy". Such a "enemy" gains nothing from maintaing that condition, but a criminal organization passing itself off as "protection" against the "enemy" would. And the adage "follow the money", or see who profits from a cirminal venture, has often had success in the past!
    Not that there isn't a threat of another "terrorist" attack. The "terrorist" group, the corproatist Fascist New World Order, would launch another strike at a moment's notice, if it looked like faith in the lie they fabricated about al Qaeda had begun to wane! To combat that may need not even a plurality but a majority of Americans to become more responsible, steadfast, brave and insightful than they have let themselves be for decades now!

    September 10, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Reply
    • humberto

      It's easy to chang a persons habits, but very diffulcult to change their nature, if you don't alter their state of being .

      September 10, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Reply
    • Buzz

      Perhaps you are right, but I personally don't think that that is the case.
      My thought, we know who are the terrorists of the recent past, they have families, a city of origin and a country of origin. Perhaps it is time, past time to carry the war to the family, city, and nation of those that attack our nation. Perhaps, once the countries are damaged by the acts of their people, they will feel the pain of terrorism, ours!

      September 10, 2011 at 3:15 pm | Reply
      • humberto

        History probes you wrong .

        September 10, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
      • humberto

        Thats how wars are won, but not hearts.

        There is no forgiveness without contrition.

        There is no contrition in deceit, only more battles.

        September 10, 2011 at 4:23 pm |
      • humberto

        Anyway, thats not my battle.

        September 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
    • humberto

      You lump alot stuff together julian, but Caesar still demands his faith, right julian.

      September 10, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Reply
    • Wzrd1

      Terrorism is violence, typically in a pseudo-random manner of targeting, used to influence groups of people or governments to do what the terrorist wishes.
      In Al Qaeda's case, they want all US personnel away from the Middle East, so that they can take over the nations there and form some new grand caliphate. THAT is something that I've heard first hand from prisoners.
      There is no new world order, there never has been a new world order, it's jingoism at best and the belief that there is some grand conspiracy for the new world order to assume control is as laughable as the belief that the US government was going to take over the US (who RUNS it? Oh, yeah! The US government.) using the "UN blue hats" or that there is a grand conspiracy of the space aliens to invade.
      But, what would *I* know? I only spent nearly 5 years at war. I've only SPOKEN with them. You know everything, from your vast experience on your twinkie encrusted couch, while I've only BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT.
      But, I DO thank you for claiming that any violence I employed IN BATTLE is a drug induced rage. I and my men thank you for the insult.
      It just illustrates your mental health issues, as the untreated mentally ill ALWAYS blame all drugs for causing mental health issues that do not exist in others, rather than acknowledging that they are the once that are out of touch with reality.

      September 10, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Reply
  8. Tay

    It's strange to think that despite the normality of today, there could be a horrible and devastating attack tomorrow. I wonder if anyone was thinking the same thing on September 10th, 2001?

    September 10, 2011 at 1:33 pm | Reply
  9. Dan

    "Some people have not gone home who are working in this"...

    well that's exactly what we need, red-eyed fatigued zombies working hard for our country, gettin' them tururrisssts.

    September 10, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Reply
  10. 911Agnostic

    I'm not sure what to believe anymore. At least 9 of the Supposed 911 hijackers have been spotted post 911 in the middle east. One of them was so bad at flying at flight school, the instructors to this day don't believe he could have flown a plane, turned it around and crashed it. It was the kinda move an advanced pilot would do. Not him. Yet the Qur'an is all about slaying non believers and placing them under the foot of Islam. Were Muslims responsible? Or is that a lie? And today, there is this supposed "terror threat" yet Hillary says, "Well we can't tell you exactly what it is b/c it's a security threat." So while I sit in this airport, you're telling me it's safer for me to NOT know that a plane I'm taking this afternoon may or may not potentially crash into the Sears Tower?

    Losing a lot of faith in the government and in media coverage. With all this bias and hiding of information from the public, I just don't know what to believe anymore.

    September 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Reply
    • Marti

      You're losing faith in a government which is working 24/7 to save lives? And you want to know EXACTLY what the terrorists are planning, but you don't want it reported by the media. Okay, well, which is it? Do you NOT want any media coverage on a possible threat? If there was information that the threat involved a plane, they would be reporting that. They have been pretty specific in what they know so that people can be on the alert. I think since 9/11, our counter-terrorists agencies have done an incredible job. The recent arrests and information undoubtedly have come from what was gathered in the computers at Bin Laden's hideout. I say to our government and the CIA, keep up the good work and ignore idiots like you.

      September 10, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Reply
      • Jim

        Mr Marty,
        you will get exactly what you deserve, from your dear govern,ment.

        September 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
      • conky2012

        Yeah Marti, lets keep up the good work. Let's keep killing innocent people over seas and then report that they have weapons. Lets have spies and military bases in every country, even ones without real military! Lets refuse to treat cancer with Medical Marijuana so that more U.S citizens can die going through chemo and make Big Pharma more money. Lets make communist leaders out to be terrorists even though we have spent that last decade invading other countries and causing terror. Yeah, my goverment is doing great! Marti, thanks for voting Bush!

        September 10, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
      • humberto

        Marty , Even your wife would not dare suggest on sending either the dog or donkey home as they make her quite happy. 

        But if you are doing something to either of both than I must inform you that bestiality is illegal in the USA.

        September 10, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
    • humberto

      You answered your own question .

      September 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm | Reply
    • humberto

      How many truths does it take to correct the damage from one lie ?

      September 10, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Reply
    • humberto

      The two above posts were directes towards agnostic .

      September 10, 2011 at 3:21 pm | Reply
  11. m

    I get the impression that CNN and the other "news" organizations LOVE LOVE this kind of news so that they will have something to report!!! I bet there is not one shred of truth in the "supposed plot!"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    September 10, 2011 at 11:30 am | Reply
    • Cheryl

      No doubt. Why put all of our eggs in a basket? Anyone with a modest amount of wisdom knows that we wouldn't tell all we know to the general public where it could fall into the wrong hands. The information we know is kept highly secret.

      September 10, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Reply
    • Marti

      You and Cheryl are both morons. A possible terrorist threat cannot be fabricated by a national news agency without serious consequences to that agency, which would then lose all credibility. Use some common sense and stop blaming the media because there is another threat. Thank God we can be warned. Of course, if the threat is valid and the US is not successful in stopping it, then you'll be screaming about how there should have been more information given to the public. Good grief, where do people like you come from?

      September 10, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Reply
      • Cheryl

        I didn't say the threat was made up. You took what I said out of context and twisted it in your own little twisted brain. I said that the people who give the information out (to the media) only give them vaque information. To give very specific details would cause wide-spread panic as well as allow the ones that we are tracking, the chance to read it and change their plan. Those who do the tracking will not tell all they know. I know this for a fact, but perhaps you don't know that because you don't know anyone in-the-know. And no, I cannot tell you who I know or how I know so don't ask me.

        September 11, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
  12. Cheryl - iowa

    Maybe they should be looking at areas where there could be a major power outage like the one that happened in the southwest US recently. My gut is screaming at me about that whole situation since it happened because it could have been a "practice run" using our own people. We need backups for our backup sources of power in certain areas!

    September 10, 2011 at 11:02 am | Reply
    • m

      Cheryl...that's the first thought that I had...they are practicing on us!!!

      September 10, 2011 at 11:44 am | Reply
    • Dreamer96

      Yes the bad thing about that blackout was it's location, covering the U.S. Mexico border,,,Anyone could have used the blackout to bring in men, weapons, drugs, almost anything, and the surveiliance cameras and maybe ground detection systems were out....

      September 10, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Reply
  13. ConnectingtheDots

    Yes it's a tough job but that's why they get paid the big bucks. The U.S. has unprecedented monitoring capability and IMO if the same capabilities were given to the private sector, every plot would be caught and foiled. I once worked for NASA and it was the biggest collection of do-nothing dead wood I've ever seen. Next worse is academia. Only private enterprise knows how to get stuff done. They should be doing the terrorist tracking.

    September 10, 2011 at 11:02 am | Reply
  14. Master Scott

    FEAR, FEAR, FEAR!! The govt is using this fake al-qeada crap to keep you in fear! 9/11 was a false flag operation to justify starting wars for PROFIT!! (FIRE does not bring down steel buildings and the TT's were DESIGNED for airplane impacts!) THe entire story IS WAS LIE so that you will go along with the fake wars and keep you in FEAR!! Stupid sheeple!

    September 10, 2011 at 10:31 am | Reply
    • Nameless

      Oh yes.... cant you see how much everyone has proffited from this all. The economy and the world are doing so well!

      September 10, 2011 at 11:54 am | Reply
      • marissa

        Look at where money is being spent in the billions and you will see who profited ...

        September 10, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
      • Jerry Senzee

        For those that still think a rag tag group of clowns with box cutters hijacked 4 planes from 3 airports and created 911 , I have some ocean-front property in Oklahoma I could make you a heckuva deal on.

        September 10, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
    • jb

      Scott, please come to reality! Your post is so stupid.

      September 10, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Reply
      • Marti

        I totally agree with you. Some of the comments on this site have me worried about the mental health of these so-called Americans.

        September 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • Jerry Senzee

      You hit zee head of zee nail.

      September 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Reply
  15. MK

    Hindsight is always 20/20. Yes AFTER the fact we could say "Oh if we had done this..." Everyone always says that when something goes wrong but that's why you LEARN from a mistake and don't let it happen again. Working in intelligence is not the easiest job in the world. It's like putting together a puzzle. You can't just make pieces ft together they have to actually fit.

    September 10, 2011 at 10:24 am | Reply
    • Bill

      You're right. Hindsight is 20/20. I remember when I used to believe that real planes hit the twin towers, and that thousands of real people died. That was before I discovered the reality of military-media hoaxes.

      September 10, 2011 at 10:36 am | Reply
      • ya right

        Yes, most of history was made up. We never went to the moon. Kennedy never died. Yesterday did not happen, and you were never born. Yes, it's alll made up. Can't you all see that we are all living in the MATRIX. Come on, wake up people!!!

        September 10, 2011 at 12:20 pm |
      • Marti

        Bill, you can go online and find the closest mental health facility in your area. I suggest you waste no time in doing that. Or at least start taking your medication again.

        September 10, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
      • Jim

        Marti,
        i suggest you take your own advice

        September 10, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
  16. Amit-Atlanta-USA

    If ONLY we monitor very very closely what goes on in most Mosques in America, what they are preaching, who is talking, who is new, who is collecting funds, etc. etc. we can gleen 99.99% of the information of impending threats.

    As long as we remember that political correctness will not be a barrier when America's security is concerned, we will be fine.

    If we don't do this, we will only be gropping in the dark spreading our meagre resources thin, investigating risks where there are none, knowing fully well by FBI's own estimate, over 80% of America's Mosques preach some form of religious hatred.

    According to a recent news item even countries like Japan with hardly any Muslim terror monitor 98% of all their Muslims and ALSO other Japanese who are in touch with them!

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/16/muslims-in-japan-sue-over-anti-terror-probe.html

    September 10, 2011 at 10:20 am | Reply
    • KC

      So should we also monitor very closely what goes in churches or synagogues? We don't want to be PC right? There could be terrorists lurking in those buildings too. We know there are Christian terrorists so who's to say they're not plotting and planning attacks against other religious groups in their places of worship? People like you really make me sick quite honestly. While we're at it – let's just monitor EVERYONE in the US.

      September 10, 2011 at 10:25 am | Reply
      • Marti

        You need to take the blinders off, KC. There are no terrorist Christian groups. Can't recall a single instance of that in recent history. But to be politically correct and prevent profiling, let's just ignore EVERYONE and then we can even do away with our counter-terrorism agencies. The days of flower power are over. This is the real world now. Sorry you're having such a hard time living in your world of denial.

        September 10, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
      • Mimi

        Marti, have you heard of Norway? It's this country in Europe that recently was brutally attacked on July 22. The main suspect? Yeah, he was CHRISTIAN. What you display is ignorance of recent world events. I pity you.

        September 10, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
  17. pennywise

    humberto. hi humberto. they all float humberto

    September 10, 2011 at 9:59 am | Reply
  18. pennywise

    suckers dont work anymore. energy drinks work better. they all float down

    September 10, 2011 at 9:56 am | Reply
  19. Karen

    Humberto, like Mike I'm worried about your health. You've been responding on this stream since 11 last night and you're even more irrational now with every post. Go to bed and I hope you can get some help/medication to clarify your thoughts and function effectively.

    September 10, 2011 at 9:50 am | Reply
    • humberto

      lol! Girl, the fact that you choose to talk about your own topics and not the real world simply means you have an opinion. It may not be factual and it may not be true, but you do have an opinion.

      September 10, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Reply
  20. Bill

    Haha.. I wonder if they'll do a better job on the CGI this time? These terror simulations need higher production values. Evidently they get the job done, though, as it's ten years later and people are still parroting the 9/11 hoax.

    September 10, 2011 at 9:47 am | Reply
  21. 9/11 survivor

    .....

    September 10, 2011 at 9:22 am | Reply
  22. someone

    They always assume New York and Washington... but they don't realize that some of the most important places in the US are in its center and out west. There are many military bases to the west and also and many huge tourist attractions and major cities, don't just focus on the capitol, it is very important that everyone is safe.

    September 10, 2011 at 9:21 am | Reply
  23. 9/11 survivor

    the government had information of a possible attack before 9/11 and did nothing if we would have known about those threats maybe i wouldn't have to have went to 21 funerals and live a nightmare the rest of my life you people should be thanking the government for these warnings not condemning them maybe if u were there to help pull your friends and coworkers bodies out you would think differently

    September 10, 2011 at 9:08 am | Reply
    • humberto

      Everyone saw what the cheif did .

      September 10, 2011 at 9:13 am | Reply
    • KC

      It's not that they didn't do anything – it's like Pearl Harbor. They just didn't connect the dots in time. Also they probably didn't think – like with Pearl Harbor – that anyone would attack the US like that.

      September 10, 2011 at 10:22 am | Reply
  24. Cc

    Humberto is clearly on the FBI and NCTC watch list!

    September 10, 2011 at 8:02 am | Reply
    • humberto

      whats a NCTC ?

      September 10, 2011 at 8:17 am | Reply
      • Mike

        humberto: Your mind/ thoughts are complex beyond comprehension. Be kindly advised to seek someone to help you clarify your thoughts and offer you some good-will and professional help with your condition. And, I'm not being cynical or trying to talk you down. Wish you best.

        September 10, 2011 at 8:32 am |
      • humberto

        No one is accusing you of having any intelligence. there are no big words involved, mike

        September 10, 2011 at 8:39 am |
      • Mike

        Dear humberto: Intelligence is a complex and organized crunch of various, and at most times incoherent and disorganized orgy of data & ideas. This part with you is just fine. However, your outburst of ideas on this and other issues reveals a need of better organization; leading to any comprehensive and meaningful point revealed or taken.

        September 10, 2011 at 8:59 am |
    • humberto

      Oh, national counter terrorism center, they have all kind of crap the public can't use .

      September 10, 2011 at 8:19 am | Reply
    • humberto

      That should be OSI.

      September 10, 2011 at 8:22 am | Reply
      • humberto

        That would be a good position for disabled vets .

        September 10, 2011 at 8:42 am |
    • humberto

      And alot of you clowns don't even have a dis honorable discharge .

      September 10, 2011 at 8:24 am | Reply
    • BTex

      Humberto is an illegal Mexican who voted for Obama and is now mad at everyone for his stupidity.

      September 10, 2011 at 8:24 am | Reply
      • humberto

        Isn't polling before a vote illegal ?

        September 10, 2011 at 8:27 am |
      • humberto

        of course it is .

        September 10, 2011 at 8:29 am |
      • humberto

        Thats one means of how they punish or reward a certain group for voting wrong, right btex.

        September 10, 2011 at 8:34 am |
      • humberto

        btex you and others have been getting too much credit for your half right answers, that really are all wrong.

        September 10, 2011 at 9:10 am |
    • korkea aika

      Why talk about Humberto? Anyone who uses the word 'clown' is well over 50 and bitter. Nothing to add

      September 10, 2011 at 9:04 am | Reply
    • m

      Humberto is a moron.

      September 10, 2011 at 11:48 am | Reply
  25. DRS

    @Humberto: STFU!

    September 10, 2011 at 8:00 am | Reply
    • humberto

      What for ?

      September 10, 2011 at 8:15 am | Reply
      • m

        for just being Humberto!!! Now shut up!

        September 10, 2011 at 11:49 am |
  26. Marc from Florida

    That is a stretch, we could "what if" all day long and never leave the bedroom or walk the dog. It's a tough call but I am doubtful of the cost benefit in stirring up mass fear. I doubt an over wrought public could contribute much to stopping a terrorist activity. Leave it to the professionals.

    September 10, 2011 at 7:52 am | Reply
    • hg

      actually, not one, not some but ALL of the recent failed plots that were put in action were foiled by citizens. The shoe bomber, the underwear bomber, the times square bomber...it seems that intellegence, if they don't get it before the plan is put in motion, are unable to stop it. Seems to me that intellegence works for catching it while its hatching. Once the goose is on the road, it's the drivers who need to be on alert.

      September 12, 2011 at 7:17 pm | Reply
  27. shhrit

    Wow humberto...your drivel sounds identical to that of Jared Lee Loughner. I hope somebody catches you prior to you doing something stupid to another human. Meh, I'll file an FBI report just to be on the save side. Keep your doors open buddy so they don't have to break them down.

    September 10, 2011 at 6:04 am | Reply
    • humberto

      You do that and be prepared to be liable for your bullcrap, loudmouth .

      September 10, 2011 at 6:13 am | Reply
      • BTex

        Freedom of speech idiot!! Obama should be liable for all of his lies!!

        September 10, 2011 at 8:08 am |
      • humberto

        Btex, freedom of speech you say, WITH NO RESPONSIBILITY .!.

        September 10, 2011 at 8:13 am |
    • humberto

      Anyway your boys are acting too busy to do anything this weekend. You'll have to wait till monday, name dropper .

      September 10, 2011 at 6:29 am | Reply
    • humberto

      Does that make sense ? You call the FBI concerning a criminal complaint against government employees and then have to listen to how their too busy because of the 911 threat.

      September 10, 2011 at 6:40 am | Reply
      • humberto

        I called 911 too.

        September 10, 2011 at 8:53 am |
    • humberto

      High level government employees .

      September 10, 2011 at 6:42 am | Reply
    • humberto

      Did you call yet, what did they say ?

      September 10, 2011 at 6:56 am | Reply
      • Kristen

        Shut up humberto – you impotent, ignorant troll. Why do I have the impression that you're an ugly, overweight loser who lives with his mommy? Maybe because you are...
        Get a life.

        September 10, 2011 at 7:50 am |
  28. Freddie

    Humberto, please shut up. I'm trying to read intelligent posts and your spamming drivel keeps getting in the way. Cheers– Freddie

    September 10, 2011 at 5:16 am | Reply
    • humberto

      Whats intelligent about committing 19 year olds in another country, for one year, for your style of liberation ?

      September 10, 2011 at 5:25 am | Reply
    • humberto

      No, your the spamer Freddie, You can check the veracity of my stuff out, clown.

      September 10, 2011 at 5:32 am | Reply
    • humberto

      Doesn't look like anymore bright ideas from the saber sword kids.

      September 10, 2011 at 5:57 am | Reply
    • BTex

      Freddie..are you from across the pond? Cheers!

      September 10, 2011 at 8:11 am | Reply
  29. sebastian

    Why does our government put Soooo much information out to the public ? This stuff should be kept under wraps to keep the investigation tips and leads away . If they want to do damage , they can just change plans and leave em blindsided , cause the government is saying where they will have their resourses ! Just sayin !!!

    September 10, 2011 at 4:25 am | Reply
    • humberto

      Who's livea are you playing with ?

      September 10, 2011 at 4:29 am | Reply
    • humberto

      The damn illegal secret government is responsible for this madness .

      September 10, 2011 at 4:42 am | Reply
    • humberto

      The FBI did that with information that caused the successful attack on the twin tower – then they covered it up and turned it around, thats their style .

      September 10, 2011 at 4:47 am | Reply
    • Scott Straley

      How do you know that the information they're releasing isn't the smokescreen? And the real information is something different, lulling the would-be terrorists into a false sense of security, thinking that our intelligence community has it all wrong?

      September 10, 2011 at 4:48 am | Reply
      • humberto

        Thiers no doubt they want to do damage ans kill, but the news only reports the damage to the government buildings and the people that use them.

        September 10, 2011 at 5:02 am |
      • humberto

        You mean like the Col. North stuff ?

        September 10, 2011 at 5:11 am |
    • humberto

      You have to ask yourself, why move Webster from the FBI TO THE CIA ? then call him back to look at citizens tax returns before the correction ?

      September 10, 2011 at 4:56 am | Reply
    • Emilia

      I told my husband the exact thing last night. If they were smart enough to surprise us with 9/11, wouldn't you think while Bin Laden was in hiding working on 10 year anniversary terror plot he wasn't working on other resources and locations set up with his followers to pursue his wish if anything happened to him. The news is telling a bit much, and it's two sided. Some Americans feel they have right to know and they other part want it keep under wraps. All they have to do is watch news and all information streaming across web, which is also hard to prevent. I said last night when I was watching news, they are focusing on Washington and New York. But, with the element of surprise on 9/11, just think of other locations noone who have expected of course. Just so scary we have to wait this out to see what surprises will happen, if not this weekend. Maybe next? You never know. Condolences go out to everyone/families that suffered from this horrific act of evil.

      September 10, 2011 at 7:29 am | Reply
    • BTex

      Because Obama is running for re election and wants all of his Obamabots to feel safe so they can get out and vote!!

      September 10, 2011 at 8:14 am | Reply
  30. DG

    The authorities are taking things seriously, as should we as Americans. That way you can tell the freaks from the rest of the world.

    September 10, 2011 at 3:34 am | Reply
  31. cheesecake

    Oh please!!! Let them do their job.god bless fbi's,pollice and intelligence for protecting us americans. All we need to do is pray!

    September 10, 2011 at 2:31 am | Reply
    • humberto

      When did you start praying ?

      September 10, 2011 at 2:47 am | Reply
    • humberto

      They don't act now on criminal complaints by citizens , how are they going to find anything ?

      September 10, 2011 at 2:51 am | Reply
    • humberto

      You know both the terrorists and FBI have mindreaders. Also illegal under laws in both cultures . another part of the problem –

      September 10, 2011 at 2:57 am | Reply
    • humberto

      Their not used to gather information, their used to position people .

      September 10, 2011 at 3:02 am | Reply
    • humberto

      If your Christian, you know you sin thru your own fault .

      September 10, 2011 at 3:12 am | Reply
      • m

        stuff a sock in it, Humberto. you are no better than the rest of us!

        September 10, 2011 at 11:46 am |
    • humberto

      Protestants are wicca , just like Jews.
      Moslems concider it rape
      Hindus are a cast so it depends what cast your in.
      Buddhists consider it a universe same as Taoists .
      Catholics consider it as a devils . it all boils down to control –

      September 10, 2011 at 3:24 am | Reply
      • humberto

        once bitten, you can't go back ... so far .

        September 10, 2011 at 4:00 am |
    • Grace

      I agree with "Cheesecake" we really need to pray...God knows the end from the beginning...He knows who, what, when & where b/c he knows the thoughts in our hearts. He even knows the # of hairs on our heads. No amount of intelligence can thwart this evil, b/c we're fighting not against flesh & blood, but of powers & principalities & rulers of dark places. SO, with that said...Heavenly Father, I come to you in the name of Jesus & ask you to forgive this nation of its sins..your word in llChronicles 7:14 says if my people, who are clled by my name (Christians) would humble themselves& turn from & repent of their sins (sins against you & the Holy Spirit...sins like abortion, murder, theft, deceit, forming laws to allow gay marriages, greed, denial, pride & selfishness) you would hear (us) from heaven & heal our land. Father, we look to you from whence cometh our help. Father, we acknowledge we are a sinful people, I rebuke these sins by the people of my country...(I cant repent of them for others, but I do rebuke them) We cannot fight these terrorist acts without you. We ask you, in the name of Jesus to bring to light those in darkness, those with the evil thoughts of hate & murder that plot against us. Father, help us, this nation of United States help us look to you, to turn our hearts from the sins of corporate greed, ignorance, deceit, selfishness, theft, murder, abortion, hatred, adultery, pedophilia, addictions, etc...and turn our hearts toward you & the things of your kingdom...faith, hope, love, gentleness, happiness, peace, joy, meekness, temperance & self control, compassion for our brother, esp. FORGIVENESS, and .all things that are pure, holy & lovely and true. Help us become a nation that prays together in unity in the spirit...a nation that BLESSES GOD & PRAISES YOU for the beauty & the blessings you give, because you loved us so much that you gave your only begotten son, that whosoever would believe on the name of Jesus Christ will be saved!!!!! Everyone who agrees with this prayer should come into agreement with it by reading aloud and saying Amen.

      September 10, 2011 at 5:52 am | Reply
      • humberto

        Another unamerican, blaming God for what their ect ...

        The Father they acknowledged and followed are the ones already posted below and they know it .

        September 10, 2011 at 7:08 am |
      • humberto

        No mega church here for you, snake

        September 10, 2011 at 7:10 am |
      • humberto

        By the way, do you people regularly ask God to do your work, trickster .

        September 10, 2011 at 7:16 am |
      • humberto

        Everyone knows there is no forgivness without contrition – yet you people still persist to fool one another . anyway the nation didn't do what you said, its an idea corrupted thru more lies from you.

        September 10, 2011 at 7:30 am |
      • humberto

        Your religion is your personal development, not the fault of others .

        September 10, 2011 at 7:39 am |
      • humberto

        So now you understand the seperation between church and state .

        September 10, 2011 at 7:41 am |
      • humberto

        and no communuty has a right to issuie a premit to protest any veterans funeral in the USA, despite what thoea blaxk robed whores say.

        September 10, 2011 at 7:49 am |
      • humberto

        Peacefull assembly does not include taunting the suffering of thoes burying their dead .

        September 10, 2011 at 7:55 am |
      • humberto

        Let alone protest at a vetrans funeral who's parents had no say in what the seceret gov. did .

        September 10, 2011 at 8:06 am |
      • humberto

        and of course the secret gov. is illegal.

        September 10, 2011 at 8:08 am |
  32. patcee

    I agree that terrorists would want the element of surprise, just like on 9/11. People didn't even realize what was happening until the second plane hit. I heard a report that a private plane had hit the building. Then I got to work and saw the horrible images on TV. How could they take a truck (that has already been identified) to a bridge or tunnel without authorities seeing it? If they know the type of truck they know the license number.

    September 10, 2011 at 2:25 am | Reply
    • humberto

      People didn't realize or care about the military personel and ship did they ? or the marine bareacks ? or tet offensive ? did they ?

      September 10, 2011 at 2:31 am | Reply
  33. vicvega

    FBI stands for Fumbling Bunch of Idiots!

    September 10, 2011 at 2:16 am | Reply
    • Special Agent JG

      We'll be right there. . .

      September 10, 2011 at 3:43 am | Reply
      • humberto

        Still waiting .

        September 10, 2011 at 5:41 am |
    • Zach

      Vicvega stands for incompetent moron

      September 10, 2011 at 3:53 am | Reply
      • humberto

        You must be a worthless profiler.

        September 10, 2011 at 5:40 am |
  34. boogeyboogeyMan

    Time to spend another trillion to fund a F999999 fighter that can stop these terrorist. How about a Tomahawk 2 cruise missile ? Lets make it double nuclear tipped. Great for hitting lone ranger suspected terrorist. Republicans must be elated.

    September 10, 2011 at 2:10 am | Reply
    • humberto

      and rich.

      September 10, 2011 at 2:35 am | Reply
    • humberto

      Esenhower even warned about such a government .

      September 10, 2011 at 2:38 am | Reply
  35. Trigster

    Egg scramble.

    September 10, 2011 at 1:38 am | Reply
    • Trigster

      Connect the dots! LA LA LA LA!

      September 10, 2011 at 1:39 am | Reply
  36. Sassan

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh? If the federal government doesn't tell us anything and there is a terrorist attack, then it is a "conspiracy". If the federal government provides us with intelligence that terrorists are plotting an attack, that is a "conspiracy" too. You see how irrational some of you quacks are?

    September 10, 2011 at 1:28 am | Reply
    • humberto

      The issiue is how it started and put a end to it before it becomes a tradition ..

      September 10, 2011 at 1:34 am | Reply
    • humberto

      an inherited, established, or customary pattern of thought, action, or behavior (as a religious practice)
      what did they mess with them for ?

      September 10, 2011 at 1:42 am | Reply
    • humberto

      Their decimating now and resolved nothing but the spillung of blood of people who had nothing to do with the greviance of thoes that sacraficed themselves in an act of agression and desolate desperation seeking some sort of justice from a higher power concerning a grevience that cannot be resolved because of some sort of irrepairable damage such as death and no hope .

      September 10, 2011 at 1:57 am | Reply
    • humberto

      In other words its snowballing .

      September 10, 2011 at 1:59 am | Reply
    • humberto

      Contrary to popular belief there are countries with different laws and beliefs the people are happy with, other than the USA.

      September 10, 2011 at 2:03 am | Reply
    • humberto

      And the criminal prying into their beliefs despite the explicit seperation of church and state by USA LAWS on the now corrupt so called plantation moral cristian coalilation family value politicians didn't help .

      September 10, 2011 at 2:10 am | Reply
      • Mike

        humberto: Your mind/ thoughts are complex beyond comprehension. You be kindly advised to seek someone to help you clarify your thoughts and offer you some good-will and professional help with your condition. And, I'm not cynic or trying to talk you down. Wish you best.

        September 10, 2011 at 8:26 am |
  37. E. Maggi

    A lot of criticism. Let them do their jobs.

    September 10, 2011 at 12:55 am | Reply
    • humberto

      If they were doing their jobs, the USA wouldn't be a target ..

      September 10, 2011 at 1:14 am | Reply
      • BoredSecurityOfficer

        Of course the USA is going to be a target weather or not the NCTC was doing their jobs 100% or 10%...Terrorists hat America because of our beliefs and our way of life. The NCTC doesn't determine wather or not the US is a target or not, because the US will ALWAYS BE A TARGET, but its because of the NCTC you can feel safe when you go to bed at night because they are on alert 24/7/365 intercepting and thwarting attacks....you are ignorant @Humberto

        September 10, 2011 at 1:32 am |
      • patcee

        They don't hate us because of our freedoms and our way of life. They hate us because we have been in their countries for 10 years and they are sick of us. They hate us because we invaded Iraq and occupied it for years. They hate us because we don't care how much collateral we leave behind from our drones and "accidents." They want us to leave, even if the Taliban come back into power. They want us gone.

        September 10, 2011 at 2:11 am |
      • humberto

        Did you tell your superiors about your findings ?

        September 10, 2011 at 2:27 am |
    • humberto

      Why target a government that allows people to petition it for a greviance and prosecutes for criminal activities, unless its corrupt .

      September 10, 2011 at 1:24 am | Reply
    • humberto

      and then again, its not the government at fault, it's the people in government.

      September 10, 2011 at 1:30 am | Reply
  38. humberto

    While the basic government service of enforcement of existing laws are diminished and corrupted –

    September 10, 2011 at 12:54 am | Reply
  39. IPCRESS

    Sounds like "RUBICON" to me.

    September 10, 2011 at 12:47 am | Reply
  40. Lliam

    Why "live" fish trucks?

    September 10, 2011 at 12:36 am | Reply
  41. humberto

    and the pockets opemed .

    September 10, 2011 at 12:33 am | Reply
  42. humberto

    Star was investigating them but found nothing concerning certified mail to their office concerning this this criminal complaint still maliciously obstructed from justice. but they did tone their retoric down .

    September 10, 2011 at 12:31 am | Reply
  43. humberto

    The Clintons are going to have to adapt for sure –

    September 10, 2011 at 12:26 am | Reply
  44. humberto

    You'll also notice Robert changed just changed the supreme court rules concerning notifying the solicitor general, despite the old rules being legally valid –

    September 10, 2011 at 12:19 am | Reply
  45. sces

    Sorry guys, meant spook them.

    September 10, 2011 at 12:15 am | Reply
  46. humberto

    You'll also notice how the economy affected them both –

    September 10, 2011 at 12:15 am | Reply
  47. humberto

    You'll Notice nothing was in the newspappers or lawyers ambulance chasing –

    September 10, 2011 at 12:10 am | Reply
  48. sces

    Guys, just a quick comment. Putting the facts we know out there , on the news, that we're onto to them may spoke them, force a mistake, cause them to sit and wait, which would possibly yield more time to investigate or get us past the 9/11 without incident. Go home team, go USA!

    September 10, 2011 at 12:10 am | Reply
  49. humberto

    Well thats just to bad for Sandra dey Oconner and the rest of them so called corrupt living Constitution crap in the US Supreme Court, that the motion to proceed as an indigent vetran made so by corrupt government officials and writ of certioria was hand written – asking for the criminal redresa for malicious civil right greiveances denied And to notify the Solicitor General as requored by law, which they did not and banter to obstruct justice about it.

    September 10, 2011 at 12:07 am | Reply
    • patcee

      Sandra Day O'Connor retired in 2006.

      September 10, 2011 at 2:17 am | Reply
  50. diagda

    The feds are so stupid always in a box thinking numbnuts need to think out of the box.
    1) use D.E.A. sources& organized crimes sources these people on the dea side will have better city sources duh, and the mafia knows everything through their own hit team connections ears to the ground.
    2) their are hundreds if not thousands of "vehicle" storage facilities including RV camper accomendations these need to be crossed checked to "vulnerable locations of opportunity " look into koa camps "RV" vehicles become mobile enemy combatant vehicles.
    in L.A. thousands of storage sites are they.close to airports or tv sat stations?
    They need to cross check red cross and national air defense helicopters are they ALL accounted for? These can be converted or subverted into rogue enemy mobile offensive capable air vehicles

    September 10, 2011 at 12:03 am | Reply
    • yo

      you have been watching way too much tv...

      September 10, 2011 at 2:30 am | Reply
  51. humberto

    Not only did these high ranking government officials willfully deceive to obstruct justice but when summoned to a federal court on a racketeering criminal complaint in federal court, they refused to reply and the federal judge refuaed to send the criminal complaint, that the FBI and Prosecutor refused to document to invengle and obstruct justice concerning their involvement in falsifying files, the circuit court and appeal Federal Judges dismissed the case under an illegal law and attempr to make frivilouse the criminal complaint despite no reply from the high level government officials who were waiting in the shadows for what they thought the completion of their coverup to obstruct justice.

    September 9, 2011 at 11:55 pm | Reply
  52. derek

    What's the difference between Obama, Bachmann, Romney, and the falling U.S. dollar?

    ...the dollar was once worth something..

    September 9, 2011 at 11:45 pm | Reply
  53. P

    I know the solution to all this but you people wouldn't wanna hear it

    September 9, 2011 at 11:39 pm | Reply
  54. humberto

    It’s no joke, they refuse to prosecute high level whitehouse officials for the obstruction of justice and continue to deceive concerning the full faith and credit an out of state arrest order was maliciously denied in another state under US title 18 sec 241 THAT INVOLVES KIDNAPPING OF A MINOR CHILD ,the FBI only recently touts in this high level political scandal and criminal ventures exposed well before 911 .

    The suffering goes well beyond any natural disaster such as texans losing their homes to a fire – these criminal ventures, were criminally planned and put in place with a corrupt judiciary that still obstructed from justice for the criminal posterity of the high level Government Officials involved –

    September 9, 2011 at 11:12 pm | Reply
    • Mike

      humberto: You be kindly advised to seek someone to help you clarify your thoughts and offer you some good-will and professional help with your condition. And, I'm not cynic or trying to talk you down. Wish you best.

      September 10, 2011 at 8:28 am | Reply
  55. jason caldwell

    i thinkthe goverment scary people to get votes and money for this kind of ghost things

    September 9, 2011 at 11:02 pm | Reply
  56. humberto

    It's no joke, they refuse to prosecute high level whitehouse officials for the obstruction of justice and continue to deceive concerning the full faith and credit an out of state arrest order was maliciously denied in another state under US title 18 sec 241 the FBI only recently touts in this high level political scandal and criminal ventures exposed well before 911 .

    September 9, 2011 at 11:00 pm | Reply
  57. Mark

    Uh... earth to rocket scientists – why let them know when we're expecting... that'll be the very time they WONT strike. If "they" wanna do something to us, they're going to do it when we least expect it. No charge for the common sense..

    September 9, 2011 at 10:58 pm | Reply
  58. ktkutthroat

    So there's a "possible threat". Isn't there a possible threat every day we walk out the door? I'm glad the NCTC is working extra diligently but they should be doing that every day.

    September 9, 2011 at 10:54 pm | Reply
  59. humberto

    Can you believe Clinton blaming the 911 Disaster on the failure of the Government to adapt?
    Meanwhile the FBI AND THEM are taking no government corruption criminal complaints .

    September 9, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Reply
  60. humberto

    Their full of shit .

    September 9, 2011 at 10:43 pm | Reply
  61. Marc from Florida

    It sounds like Rumsfeld is back. Boogeymen in every dark alley. I question the need to scare the whole country over rumor and unconfirmed reports. Could there be an incident? Of course, but we have all been here before and I can't help having a sense of "cry wolf" one time too many. It is doubtful that raisng the level of fear over a potential incident will do nothing more than create a lot of phone calls to law enforcement creating some very uncomfortable moments for innocent people – perhaps injury or death. I wonder if the proper approach is just for the police and appropriate agencies to do their jobs without a lot of hoopla. Don't get me started on airport security.

    September 9, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Reply
    • DanW

      Perhaps there is a reason why this info is being made public rather than being handled behind the scenes like most potential threats. Perhaps this one has more substance to it, and if an attack actually succeeded, how would the govt look if they had credible data, kept it to themselves and people died? Imagine the lawsuits from people who would say that if they had had the information they would have left town, or something similar? (Not that they would have, this is just a scenario for a bogus lawsuit.) It's a no-win situation for the govt unless they do put the pieces together and prevent something.

      September 9, 2011 at 10:53 pm | Reply
      • Marc from Florida

        That is a stretch, we could "what if" all day long and never leave the bedroom or walk the dog. It's a tough call but I am doubtful of the cost benefit in stirring up mass fear. I doubt an over wrought public could contribute much to stopping a terrorist activity. Leave it to the professionals.

        September 10, 2011 at 7:53 am |

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